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breaking tonight, a new warning for americans as we head into the holiday season, as the state department now issues a global travel alert, urging all americans to use caution, avoid large crowds, and to be particularly careful at holiday festivals and events. welcome to "the kelly file." i'm megyn kelly on assignment tonight in washington, d.c. these alerts are usually issued when there is a higher threat level and specifically refer to overseas travel. however, there have not been many of these over the past few years. right now, it would seem that authorities believe the likelihood of terror attacks will continue. this follows the devastating attacks on paris that claimed 130 lives. at this hour, an international
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manhunt is under way for fugitive suspect salah abdeslam. he's the man who stop -- was stopped by police after the attacks but was let go. earlier today, a french street cleaner found what appeared to be an explosive vest, similar to the one used in the november 13th attack. authorities now trying to figure out whether it belonged to this man, who is suspected of slipping across the french border into belgium. it was there that 21 people were rounded up in terror raids. most have been released, but four suspects have been arrested and charged with terror-related offenses in recent days. meantime, the belgian capital remains locked down virtually. the schools, subways closed over what is being described as a serious and imminent threat to the city. we have a huge show for you tonight, complete with the latest on this worldwide travel warning for americans. plus, we'll look into how safe we are here at home. the politics of the war on
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terror. and presidential candidate ben carson is here. but we begin with a troubling new report, suggesting someone tampered with the intelligence on isis that is being given to president obama. and the question tonight is whether that was directed by obama or his staff. in moments, we'll be joined by lieutenant general michael flynn, who served as the director of defense intelligence under president obama, or the d.i.a. we'll be joined by a former islamic extremist who has a president's handling of isis. but we begin with our chief intelligence correspondent catherine reporting from washington. >> reporter: fox news is told the pressure on centcom and supersi supervisors included they should dial back on intelligence reporting. there was apparently an attempt to destroy these communications.
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those familiar with the intelligence leading up to the isis land grab in 2014 say there were multiple intelligence reports from the cia and military intelligence warning about the rapid rise of isis in iraq, north africa, as well as egypt. the intelligence was stark and any manipulation of the report was not enough to justify the president's "j.v." comment. despite the warning, the official said the administration kept "kicking the can down the road," adding the president didn't want to hear it. the charge described as baseless today at the white house briefing. >> what the president has long said and what he said in that news conference is that he has made quite clear to military leaders and to intelligence specialists that he's looking for the best, most accurate assessment of what's actually happening that he can get. because that's only going to improve his ability to make decisions about policy to address the situation on the ground.
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doneford is requesting a new report on isis, which reflexes the air strikes by russia, the paris terrorist attacks and the bombing of a russian jet last month. he wants an unvarnished report and the request is not connected to the controversy over the intelligence assessments. megyn? >> thank you. my next guest has been at the forefront of our nation's intelligence for decades, providing direct intelligence to president obama. he's aware of most everything the president received from 2011 to 2014, including terrorism in the middle east and the rise on isis. he's even sat down to talk with terrorists. he served as director of the defense intelligence agency from 2012 to 2014 and before that was director of intelligence at united states central command which overseas the middle east.
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great to see you, general. >> thanks for having me. >> you were there. you know what president obama saw every day from 2011 to 2014. you tell us what was said about isis. >> so let me just start by saying that intelligence doesn't start and stop at central command. there are 16 intelligence agencies, five large ones and two that provide what we call all-source intelligence assessments. those are the most important ones that go into the white house. i will tell you that accuracy and the warnings that have been provided on the rise of radical islamists over the last few years have been very, very clear. so what the president has actually received from the national intelligence system is pretty good intelligence. i would say it's very accurate. so what he's done with that intelligence, you know, from what we can tell right now is -- he's taken on this really lousy policy -- >> before we get to the policies, i want to stick to what they know. even today the white house was
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not refuting assertions that president obama was surprised, he was surprised at the strength of isis. you were in a position to know. is that true? was he surprised when isis took off? >> there was so much activity and so much i think accurate reporting coming out of all parts of our intelligence system that were going the u.s. intelligence system and into the white house. so to say that "i'm surprised at the rise of this threat" is really -- it's gross understatement as to what reality is. >> what about this reported manipulation of the data, that the analysts were being told, we don't like that message, fix it to comport more with the narrative coming out of the white house? it's not that the iraqi soldiers abandoned, it's that they redeployed. >> i think this issue of not meeting a narrative out of the white house, which meant, don't talk about radical islam. don't talk about this as being a
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form of a radicalization of the islamic religion, which it is. it is a cancer inside the islamic religion and the white house and the president has not wanted to say that. if you continue to get this pushback, which is really what happened, and i think that's what you're seeing from the great analysts, which have been at this a long time -- >> jumping up and down saying pay attention. >> many have been deployed for many years in iraq and afghanistan and elsewhere. so i think the focus of really this investigation, they'll find whoever they're going to find and some of the tactical issues at central command, but the focus ought to stop at the top. where intelligence starts and stops is the white house. the president sets the priorities and he's the number one customer. so if he's not getting the intelligence he needs and if he's not paying attention to what else is going on, then something else is wrong there between them and the advisers he has. >> one person not underestimate
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thing threat was you. before i let you go, you have to tell the viewers in 2006, there you were and you stood over the body of one of the most notorious terrorists we've faced, al za kari. >> i think when we call him in 2006, we had been hunting limb for almost three years at that point in time. but we knew the problem was not going to end with his death and we felt -- as good as we felt seeing the accomplishment of that mission, we knew that this thing was far from over and we have been following that ever since. it's not gotten better and it's in fact doubled and in some cases tripled in terms of the size and scope of the problem. so nobody can sit here today, no one, particularly the amount of intelligence the white house got and say we didn't know this was
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a problem. give me a break. >> great to see you, general. >> thanks, megyn. >> my next guest is a former islamic extremist. he's since changed his ways and written a book. he's author of "radical, my journey out of islamic extremism." thank you very much for being here. your thoughts on president obama's strategy? >> yes, megyn. i think i would endorse a lot of what we just heard. unfortunately, i don't think this current administration has this issue of islamic extremism from day one. it's been from comparing them to the jv team to allowing the red line to be crossed in syria to the situation of today. which just a day before the france attacks, the president
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stated isis is contained in iraq and syria. the policy has been a policy of denial, and a lack of vision and strategy. i don't believe what we're facing, unlike what the pope mentioned and what king abdullah mentioned, i don't think we're facing world war iii. we're facing a global jihadist insurgency. how that differents from a traditional war is that insurgencies rely upon a certain level of support within the communities they're seeking to recruit from. with isis, 6,000 fighters have joined the worst terrorist group we've ever known in modern times, from europe. that 6,000 doesn't appear in a vacuum. they weren't radicalized overnight. i would say isis didn't radicalize those 6,000. they plopped the low-hanging fruit -- >> to those in the administration that would have us to believe it's a smattering
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of people, based mostly in syria. what say you? >> absolutely, it's incorrect. those 6,000 that joined isis in europe, the reason they were radicalized is for decades in europe, we have islamic groups working within muslim communities, radicalizing muslims in europe. i know because i was one of them. they've been preaching the idea or notion of resurrects a theocratic caliphate. so along come isis and declare they've established this caliphate. people had been primed in anticipation for the return of this so-called caliphate. in surveys, 33% of british muslims have sympathy for the notion of resurrecting a caliphate. so we're not looking at isis as the main problem -- >> what about radical islam? i want to talk to you about that, because the president says, and hillary clinton says we don't say radical islam, it's
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going to alienate main stream muslims. your thoughts on that? >> there's a danger if we don't name this, and isolate it from main stream muslims, on the contrary what the state department is hoping to avoid will be brought about, because when we don't name something, the vast majority of people that don't understand these complex conversations would assume the problem is with the religion of islam. it's only by naming it we can isolate it from main stream muslims and say the problem isn't islam, the problem is muslim theocracy and extremism, those who wish to impose a version of islam over a society. this idea that it has nothing to do with islam is preposterous. the truth is, it's got something to do with islam. that is the fact that islam is being politicized and has been for decades within our communities. and it's about time we recognize that, name the problem and isolate it from main stream muslims, and all of us together,
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it's all of our responsibility, to then go about challenge thing idealology and undermining it. >> what's extraordinary is right here we have a former islamic extremist making points, and the former head of the defense intelligence agency is sitting next to me shaking his head in agreement. these two men are on the same page. >> violent agreement. >> unbelievable point on which to end. thank you both tonight so much. >> thank you. so what happens if it turns out someone did cook the books on the intelligence reports? chris stirewalt, steve hayes, and peggy noonan detail how the fallout could be explosive. on top of the new travel warning issued today, we are getting new details on stepped up security for the holiday ahead. trace gallagher has that. and we discuss the security challenge here at home for the fbi. and then dr. ben carson taking heat for insisting that he too saw american muslims celebrating after the tragedy on
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breaking tonight with just days to go before the start of the holiday travel season, the state department issues a worldwide travel alert, due to a higher threat level around the globe. while it does not apply specifically to the united states, it does cover one of the busiest travel weeks of the year here, at a time when millions of american also gather in big crowds for holiday events and the start to the christmas shopping season. we'll be joined by the former assistant director for the fbi. but first trace gallagher has this report. >> reporter: the state department warping that isis and boko haram is planning attacks in multiple regions. while the warning focuses on the holiday season, this alert doesn't expire until february 24th of next year. so it's not as if the worry is over come january 2nd.
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the state department points out that sporting events, theaters and aviation services have been targeted and says, quoting here, be aware of immediate surroundings and avoid large crowds or crowded places. even though the state department warnings say they're worldwide, they do not cover the united states, because here at home we're getting very different advice from homeland security secretary jeh johnson. listen. >> we encourage americans, as the holiday season approaches, to continue to travel, to associate, to go to public events, to go to public places. >> reporter: so being in crowds is only recommended inside the united states. and to prep for the upcoming holiday events like the thanksgiving day parade and new year's eve, hundreds of new york city first responders simulated a subway terror attack, including an attacker wearing a suicide vest. the three-hour active shooter drill was deemed a success, even though more than a dozen
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simulated attackers were mortally wounded. nypd and homeland security say more practice runs are now being scheduled. megyn? >> interesting point you raise there at the end. here with more, a former fbi assistant director who oversaw all matters relating to counterterrorism and security for the state of new york and was pointman in new york when it came to dealing with the white house office of homeland security. james, great to see you. >> hi, megyn. >> does this stuff work? really, is there anything we can do to actually prevent an attack like we saw in paris short of good intelligence? >> let me say first, i think your two previous guests i agree with totally also. general flynn is a real patriot. but yes, it's a huge task. it's based on state, local, federal working together. it's a bad time to have demoralized police departments. they're the first line of
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defense. nypd does a great job, but looking for those types of things, i'm sure all the roll calls when the cops go out, they'll emphasize look for the unusual, look for something that doesn't belong. after months and years of looking at these neighborhoods that they patrol, you know, things stand out to them. are they bunking out in some state forest somewhere enroute to new york or whatever? so don't think the benign is necessarily the benign. >> it's a marriairacle when youk about the fact even this week we have 3 million people coming to new york for the thanksgiving parade. you have a million people coming to times square on new year's eve, not to mention those who just come in for the holiday season. it's amazing that nothing has happened at these events in the past, you know, 15 years. >> well, the terrorist traffic force has done a huge job.
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but they can only keep these fingers in the dam so long, megyn. think about it, that's why we've been complaining, i've been complaining for years now, for a decade, that we've got to close the border. these sanctuary cities have to go. we need the cooperation of the muslim community. the first line of defense really, i've said the state and local police, but it's really the citizens that live in these communities. when the day comes that the muslim community is turning in those to get radicalized, and they have to know when they get radicalized. look at the captain of the boston police force. they have to call up the terrorist task force and say his son was being radicalized and take a look at him. people know when their sons are being radicalized. there has to be more cooperation coming out of that community. the aviation situation is tough. there's a lot of thing at the
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airports that i don't want to go into, because i don't want to disclose the vulnerabilities, but there are many. as we talked before on other nights, the fbi is just so terribly undermanned and underwomaned that it's going to be really huge. they're going to be working 18-hour shifts and that won't be enough either. >> and i know you have questions about comey's claims last week. i don't think they let me speak for all women, but you can say undermanned. it's all inclusive. >> i know, but i must say the fbi has some great women working in the fbi. >> amen. >> i was proud to be the leader of some of them. >> i got it. james, great to see you as always. >> okay, megyn. you have a good thanksgiving. >> you too. we're also investigating new controversy tonight on the campaign trail as dr. ben carson gets hit for remarks he made
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we have breaking news tonight on the terror threat overseas with a city more than a million people on lockdown. the french say a key terrorist in the paris attacks helped plot the carnage from belgium. now they're worried he's on the loose there and planning to strike again. benjamin hall reports tonight from brussels. >> reporter: a very confusing day here today in brussels. we had been optimistic that the attack had been thwarted, but it seems as if it's ongoing and getting worse. in rome, 2,000 security personnel have hit the votes and in the uk, 10,000 will be there as a rapid response force. that as america issues a warning
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to citizens worldwide. yesterday, these raids involved multiple locations around the city, aimed at eliminating the threat. but then this afternoon the prime minister announcing that of the 21 people arrested, only one had been charged. so the threat here continues and attacks remain imminent. 22 raids were carried out through the night as soldiers shut off votes, in particular the muslim district of molenbeek as authorities sought to prevent another paris-style attack. so today the country remains at high alert and will do so for some days ahead, with shops, schools, underground rail all closed as troops hit the street, afraid of another isis cell waiting to attack. now questions being raised whether mistakes were made and concerns ignored. today also on the german-belgium
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border, authorities don't know where salah abdeslam is or where the next threat is coming from. the ease of movement around the europe is also raising questions about security and many people are concerned how easy it is for these attackers to move arounded a will, hiding among refugees. but here in brussels, they say the authorities respect talking to them and they're worried that the attack is imminent. megyn? >> benjamin, thank you. the issue of terror and radical islam also leading to new controversy on the campaign trail when ben carson appeared to agree with one of donald trump's controversial comments, that crowds of american muslims in new jersey celebrated, as they watched the terror attacks across the river on september 11, 2001. watch. >> dr. carson, were american muslims in new jersey cheering on 9/11 when the towers fell,
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did you hear that? >> yes. >> can you expand on that? >> there are going to be people that respond inappropriately to virtually everything. i was think that was an inappropriate response. >> did you see that happening on 9/11? >> i saw the film of it, yes. >> in new jersey? >> yes. >> joining me right now is dr. ben carson. do you want to walk that back then publicly? >> well, what we were talking about is the reaction of muslims after the 9/11 attack. and if they were in a celebratory mood. you know, i was really focusing on that it was an inappropriate thing to do, no matter where they were. they asked me did i see a film? i did see the film. i don't know where they were, but i did see a film of muslims celebrating and i was making a
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point -- >> but it was important whether these were american muslims in new jersey versus folks in the middle east. so you admit to a lack of caution in answering that question? >> yeah, yeah, i mean, i thought we were just talking about the fact that muslims were inappropriately celebrating. i didn't know that they had an agenda behind the question. >> they were trying to see whether you agree with something donald trump has said publicly, and he's been -- >> which i had not heard. >> so do you -- >> i had not heard about his comments. >> do you believe his claim or do you mean to provide him with backup on his claim that he thousand thousands of americans in new jersey celebrating the fall of the twin towers on 9/11 is >> it had nothing to do with him or his claim. it was more of an misunderstanding of what we were talking about and me making the point that celebrating that is
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totally inappropriate no matter where you are. >> the presidential contest has gotten less tight over the last week or so, with donald trump opening up a double digit lead over you in the latest polls. to what do you ascribe that? many believe it's the paris attacks and many people thinking you don't have what it takes to be commander in chief. >> well, i think as time goes on, if people really begin to listen to what i say, not the volume at which i say it, i think they will recognize it is exactly the right formula. what we have to be thinking about is how do we stop this from occurring in this nation? i've said for many months, we have to take the fight to them over there. and in order to do that, we have to cut off their money supplies, don't allow them to transfer money through the system. cut off their oil, take their revenue source. we have to utilize our special-ops people, along with the kurds, and we really need to
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start working with the iraqi forces, which we've kind of given up on because they ran away. but they ran away when isis attacked them because we didn't have the right kind of support for them. if we would provide the right support for them, i think they will be a formidable fighting force. those are the things that we do over there, but over here, we also must strengthen the tsa. you saw how many things got through there the other week. and the fbi, we've got to give them much greater capacity to follow people 24-7. i think also we're very compassionate people. some people think to be compassionate, you must take all syrians in. we've spent more money on the syrian refugees than any other country, and we shouldn't fall for the false narrative that there's only two options, that we take them over here or forget about them. we can provide safe zones for
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them over there, humanitarian services like we always do. >> got to ask you to clarify one other thing, because you got hit for an interview where you said thomas jefferson helped craft the constitution, which i know you know he did not, because your book says it correctly, which is he crafted the declaration of independence and not the constitution. to those who would say how could you make such an el mental mistake, what say you? >> thomas jefferson, even though he was an ambassador during the constitutional convention, was in communication. he has a ton of letters, he has a ton to say about it. >> but you know he did not craft the constitution. >> no, he didn't craft it. but he was certainly in communication with the people and had a lot of input and a lot of say about it. so no, he didn't craft it, of course not. people spend too much time, you know, looking at little words and phrases without looking at
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the implications or the big picture. that's part of the problem we've gotten into the minutia without looking at the big picture. many of your colleagues, not you, in the media, spend all of that you are time combing through something and say ah, gotcha. rather than thinking about how do we correct the big problems that we're having in this nation today? >> understood. i wanted to give you the chance to respond, because you know how it is. you get hit a lot. and that's what we're here for. >> every day. >> great to see you. >> thank you very much, megyn. >> if you're just joining us, one of the former top intel chiefs under president obama made some big news tonight. and chris stirewalt, steve hayes and peggy noonan are next on how the fallout from it could get big. plus, an incredible twist in the story of ahmed mohammed, the teenager who showed up to a
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the focus of this investigation ought to start at the top, where intelligence starts and stops is the white house. the president sets the priorities and is the number one customer. if he's not paying attention to what else is going on, then something else is wrong here between him and the advisers that he has. >> big news there, from the top of the hour and lieutenant general michael flynn, former defense intelligence agency director under president obama weighs in on the president demanding an investigation into whether someone cooked the books on the islamic state intel being provided by the white house. there's an inspector general looking into claims of that effect by people who work for the government, for the intelligence agencies. joining me now, chris stirewalt,
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steve hayes, and peggy noonan. great to see you all. let me start with you, steve, that this investigation has to start at the top. >> it was very big news. you have, as you pointed out, the former head of the defense intelligence agency saying on the record he thinks the white house needs to be looked at in terms of manipulating intelligence. i thought he said something else was important. there's been a lot of focus about intelligence on isis in particular, and the potential manipulation of that. what flynn said this goes back further than that. this is not a three-week story or three months. this goes back years, and we need to be looking at that, as well. >> this is not somebody that can be easily dismissed. i don't know that people are going to pay attention, because they seem to write off a lot of what president obama's critics say when it comes to the middle
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east. >> now we find out -- i remember during the bush administration when dissent was the highest form of patriotism. that setting seems to have changed a little bit in the obama era. but look, as much as we have been talking about republican racism and migrants, et cetera, et cetera, what the general said will stick, because remember, we've had a substantial failure, not only as steve talks about over time with isis, and misapprehending what's going on, but what happened in paris. now we have in real time the revelation of a problem with the intelligence. this will linger and hurt. >> it is extraordinary to hear somebody in a position like that held by general flynn who has served this nation for his entire professional career go on the record with an accusation like that. >> yes, i did find it extraordinary and i wrote very quickly some notes. i thought, all right, there's an investigation, it has been launched. a lot of people are going to do a lot of talking. i think what we want to find out
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is this -- who would have done this, tampered with intelligence or cooked the books as they're saying? why would they have done it? to what end? and with what impact? it seems to me those are pretty big questions if this investigation does pan out, as something covering such a serious subject at such a serious time. >> you know, steve, the white house has denied it, president obama saying i tell my generals and everybody give me all the information. i want it clean. i want it real. yet what we're hearing from people like flynn is, our intel got killed when it didn't fit "the narrative" that the white house wanted. >> and general flynn told me just this last week, in the leadup to the 2012 presidential election is when the cooking of the books was really the worst, when he was reporting that al qaeda doubled in size and strength, and the white house was going out at campaign stops
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saying, al qaeda is on the run. al qaeda is decimated. i think if you go back and you look at president obama's public statements, it contradicts his claim that he just wants it as it is. because look at the way that he responded to the christmas day bomber, to the times square bomber, to the ft. hood attacks. the ft. hood attacks were labeled as workplace violence. they originally said these e-mails between hasan and al awlaki were define. we know that wasn't the case, and we now have this long history, seven years' worth, which the president has down played this threat, methodically, regularly. >> it's the same president, peggy, who came out and gave this off the cuff remark after the first american reporter had been beheaded and he was on martha's vineyard and then he went out and played golf and later admitted i may have gotten the tone wrong. as somebody who sets tone in presidential speeches, has
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president obama just gotten it wrong in response to these paris attacks? >> you know, on this issue, terrorist attacks/isis, i think he's been getting it wrong for a long time, really essentially from the beginning. maybe this investigation will tell us nor about why that is. but from famously referring to isis as the junior varsity team, straight through suggesting they had been contained, right before paris blew. his factual statements have been incorrect, as to tone, my goodness, you could hardly react to a thing, an incident like paris, with almost a worse tone for a leader than what the president displayed, defensiveness, a certain petulance that his strategy was being questioned. a shown anger or indignation towards his republican foes.
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but less in a way, less personal passion for isis itself. so this has been strange from the beginning. i think it's the only word i can use, factually and in terms of tone. >> before we go, chris, we've seen carson's numbers go down and terror go up to the number one issue. do you think that there's a correlation there? >> of course. i think ben carson's readiness for the oval office comes into question, but i think this -- what the heck is hillary rodham clinton going to do all about this when she has to run for president in the general election? she can paper it over with democrats and say i think the president's strategy is working, i would make it 30% more excellent. here's what the polls tell me. this is a garbage fire. voters are furious about feeling this, and it's thanksgiving dag gone weekend. >> and we're getting warnings
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from the state department. maybe her position will be, i will read the intelligence and tell them not to change it. great to see you all tonight. a big development in the story of the texas teenager who showed up to school with what looked like a bomb. remember? he said it was a clock he made. he was arrested as a result, and up next, big news on what his family is now demanding for their pain and suffering. llar c. that's why i have the spark cash card from capital one. i earn unlimited 2% cash back on everything i buy for my studio. ♪ and that unlimited 2% cash back from spark means thousands of dollars each year going back into my business... that's huge for my bottom line. what's in your wallet? again for the 15th year in a us in customrow.atisfaction but we have a plan. (exec 2) when our customers are on hold,
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a major development in the story of the texas teenager who showed up to school with -- he said it was a clock. it looked like a bomb. then he was arrested as a result. he claimed that it was a science project. and many called this a clear case of anti-muslim bias. trace gallagher has the latest on what the family now wants for their pain and suffering. trace? >> megyn, the family now wants $500 million in damages from the irving school district and $10 million from the irving police department. the family wants formal apologies for the police chief and mayor threatening a lawsuit if their demands are not met within 60 days. in a nine-page letter, the school claims that ahmed was illegally questioned without his parents present. that the principal threatened to
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expel him. the city and the school devised a plan to trash ahmed to the media. the school claims that he wasn't telling the truth and because of federal privacy laws the school was unable to tell its side of the story. remember, he built a clock, he says, but electronics experts say he simply took an old clock apart and put the guts inside a pencil case. some believe he left the wires exposed to make it look more threatening. but others say authorities overreacted because of ahmed's race and religion. the irving school district says it's reviewing the letter and will respond as appropriate. >> trace, thank you. joining me now to react, founder of the coalition. 15 million bucks for a dustup with local officials that ended up with the kid going to the white house. what do you think? >> well, megyn, unfair arrests do cause emotional distress. he can have a claim. i know it's exaggerated with the
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15 million and that might dilute his thing. obviously what he went through was not acceptable. and i hope that he will -- i mean, he left a country, he got a scholarship. >> because a lot of people who don't have bias against muslims say, what about if you see something, say something. it does look like a bomb. so the teacher says, i think i better say something. >> right. but like once they saw it, they thought it was -- they didn't evacuate the school. they didn't do any of the bomb procedures. even if it was a threat, if it was serious, like you know, that's why our community was much more concerned about it because the way the school never responded with -- they only got that student punished. like it was not like a real threat because if it was -- >> they were wondering whether it was a hoax bomb. they never thought -- the charge was that he's trying to commit a hoax on people by trying to scare people. >> right, right. well, either way.
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obviously what he and his family went through. and they left the country. we lost an american family. >> he decided to move to qatar. let me ask you this before you go, last time you came on you had the hijab and the american flag. we saw it. you looked amazing. people picked up on there was some sort of issue between you and fox news. do you have some issue with fox news? >> no, i'm really excited to be here. being a republican, i think fox network has provided us with a platform. that was my patriotic self. it was not meant to be in any way, you know, reflecting badly on anyone. >> good. you had a good experience here. >> i had a great time. i'm so glad to see you. i'm seeing you weekly. i'm very happy to be here and i'm grateful to fox for giving me this opportunity. >> i'm glad to here it. i thought we had a great time. then people on the left said we didn't. you were not here. i got to go. we'll be right back. >> thank you.
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tune in tomorrow. senator ted cruz is here. also former al qaeda member turned cia operative martin storm will be here. go to facebook.com/kelly file. thanks for watching. this is "the kelly file." tonight -- >> these are radical terrorists that want to kill us. >> senator marco rubio confronts radical islam in a brand-new ad. the 2016 gop presidential contender is here with more. >> we have a choice. either they win or we win. >> then hillary clinton attacks republicans over concerns that isis could infiltrate syrian refugees to act like we're going to shut our borders and pull up the gang plank. that weakens us and validates some of what these terrorists are saying. >> 2016 presidential candidate carly fiorina will respond to her. >> i think waterboarding is peanuts compared to what they do to us >> donald trump promises to get tough on terrorism. is t

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