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see you next sunday with the latest buzz. i'mll >> i am chris wallace. a deadly siege at a planned parenthood center and now police are sending for a motive. >> >> three was aiming at me. he started shooting. i looked at his face. >> a lot of gunfire. three dead including a police officer. was it related to allegations of the sale of fetal body parts for research? we will talk with g.o.p. presidential candidate carly fiorina a staunch opponent of the abortion practiceties of planned parenthood. >> americans face heightened security at home on the business of the holiday of the year. >> i want the american people to know that we are taking every
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possible step to keep our homeland safe. >> in the midst of a travel alert because of tower attacks, well sit down with chair of the senate intelligentsia, a fox news sunday exclusive. >> plus, ben carson lacks to beef up his foreign policy credentials with a trip to syrian refugee camps and donald trump fans off criticism he mocked a reporter's disability. we will ask the panel about the g.o.p. course correction right now on fox news sunday. >> hello, again, from fox news in washington. a deadly shooting at a planned parenthood center in colorado springs is renewing debate over abortion and gun criminal. -- gun control. it is unclear what motivated the suspect to open fire the we will talk with carly fiorina in a moment but, first, our news correspondent is outside the clinic.
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will? >> yes, robert dear will appear in court on monday the big question is, why did he kill three people and injure nine others in this weekend authorities have been searching his trailer in park county, colorado, looking for clues. dear surrendered on friday and there are multiple reports he has been rambleing with investigators saying and i quote, "no more baby parts," which refers to video allegedly showing planned parenthood officials discussing the sale of fetal body parts, with investigators digging into his past when he stormed the planned parenthood with an assault and got into a shoot out with police. he lives in a cabin in north carolina with no electricity or water and had past arrests for domestic violence and animal cruelty. those would knew him say he never spoke of religion or abortion. one victim, officer garret swasey is remembered at a father, an athlete and a man of
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god. >> if i put it in a nutshell, a person who serves the community with integrity, his whole life. he minutes home to this communities. >> president obama issuing a statement in part which said "enough is enough," regarding gun violence and, at the same time, attorney general calling this a crime against women who use planned parenthood for health care services. >> thank you, will carr from colorado springs. joining me is republican presidential candidate, carly fiorina who is taking a hard-line against planned parenthood abortion practices. welcome back to fox news. >> happy thanksgiving. >> your reaction to the shootings at the clinic in colorado springs? >> this is a tragedy. it is obviously a tragedy, nothing justifies this. presumably this man who appears deranged if nothing else will be tried for murder as he should
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be. it is a tragedy especially on a holiday weekend. >> you have been the toughest critics of planned parenthood's alleged harvesting of body parts and selling them for fetal research. some of the pro choice advocates are saying language like your, not singling you out, but saying this has incited violence. what would you say to protesters outside the clinics about the limits of their opposition? >> first, it is not alleged planned parenthood acknowledged it that they would no longer take compensation for body parts which sounds like they were doing so. this is so typical of the left to immediately begin demonizing the messenger because they don't agree with the message. the vast majority of americans agree what planned parenthood is doing is wrong. that is why the vast majority of
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americans are prepared not only to defund planned parenthood but, also, to stop abortion for any reason at all after five months. what i would say to anyone who tries to link this terrible tragedy to anyone who opposed abortion or opposes the sale of body parts, this is typical left wing tactics. >> what would you say to the protesters outside the clinics? >> any protesters should always be peaceful whether it is black lives matter or pro life protesters, protesters should always be peace will and respectful. >> let me turn subjects. president obama is on his way to paris today for a climate change summit and this week he linked that to the war on terror. >> what a powerful rebuke for the terrorists it will be when the world stands as one and shows we will not be deterred from building a better future
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for our concern. >> your reaction to the summit and to the con continuation by some in the obama administration that climate change is if not the biggest the most immediate threat to our national security. >> that is delusional. it is delusional for president obama and hillary clinton and anyone else to say that client is our near term most severe security threat. it is isis. period. followed closely by iran and perhaps by russia. president obama continues to think that somehow our behavior causes terrorism. so he said that client summit is a powerful rebuke. no, it is not, the terrorists do not carry we are gathering in paris other than it provide as target as he said republicans are giving terrorist as recruiting tool and we do not think syrian refugees should be allowed to enter the country. president obama is delusional about this and about the net is
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why he will not do anything about it. >> it is worthwhile for him to go to paris to go to the international summit and try to work out emission limits? >> look, if you read the fine print of the science, what the scientists say, although scientists would say climate change is real and man made they also say a single nation acting alone can make no difference and it will take a global effort over 30 years costing trillions of dollars, the like his hood is zero so it is not productive. it would be more productive if president obama would lead an international coalition to stop human trafficking or an international coalition for humanitarian relief for the refugees or an international coalition to defeat isis all of those would be more use will than time in paris spent talking about climate change. >> let's turn to the republican presidential race, you have gotten a big lift in the polls particularly after the first two
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republican debates but just looking at the numbers you have fallen back. we will put up a couple of the polls, the real clear politics average of recent polls in iowa you are now 6 with 3.7 percent down from when you were running third with so.-- 10.3 percent and in new hampshire you are down from early october when you everyone second with 14.3 percent and now you are a numbers person. why do you keep sliding back? >> national polled and some of the polls are unpredictive and have never predict add winner. when i launched my campaign on may 4, no one who is said i would be in the top ten. no one. no one who is said i would be on the main stage. in fact, ever repundit on this channel and every other channel wrote me off. i have had a movement unlike any other, the least well-known candidate on may 4, ierly at --
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i remain at the bottom of well-known candidates so a lot of republican voters stilt do not know who i am, i am heap with where i am and now people will pay attention. now people are paying attention. >> let me check you on that. you talk about name recognition so i looked into that this weekend. according to a national poll this month, more republicans now know who you are than know who marco rubio is or ted cruz and yet they are running ahead of you in the polls. it isn't just make recognition. >> i am not say it is just make recognition but it is to say that having never run for a political office before and not being a household name and in people's living room like ben carson and donald trump for many areas people are getting to know me. now, by the way people are paying attention and later this week i will roll out my blue print for what we need to do to take our country back. our government is crushing the
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potential of our nation. to take our country become will require a different kind of leadership in the white house which is why i am running and it will require citizenship. we need to do very specific things from radically simplifying the tax code to go to zero based budgeting to repealing obama care and row storing the character of our nation and enforcing pro american immigration system and defeating isis and getting back in the leadership business around the world. >> there is a lot i want to pick up, but, specifically, first, you mentioned rum truck. your biggest moment so far in this campaign was when you shot back at trump after he commended on your appearance and this week he is under fire again for mocking physical disability of a reporter. >> take a look. >> you have to see this good. i don't know what i said, i don't remember...i don't remember. maybe that is what i said. this is 14 years ago and they did not do a retraction.
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>> are you prepared to call him out on that? >> this is the patterns isn't it? he said something insulting, and offensive, outrageous, the media pays attention and he claims we all misunderstood him, and the media pays attention again and this is the pattern, perhaps, of an entertainer but not the pattern of a leader and apantly donald trump only feels big when he is trying to make everyone else look small and of course in the under he looks the smallest of all. >> you talking about the fact you will come out with specifics on a variety of issues. i want to talk to you about the tax code because you have taken heat so far and i don't know what you will do this week but not being specific enough according to some people on the tax code. you have said you want to reduce 73,000 pages of the tax coat to three payments and you are going to close every loophole and lower every tax rate. but, again, some people say you have not been specific enough so i will do a lightning round with
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you, quick questions and answers and hopefully get specific answers. would you end, do you plan to were the home mortgage deduction? >> probably. there has been a plan for a three page tax code for 20 years it is not news. hue verify institute which i served as a member of the board has had a three page tax code out for 20 years what we ought to do is have the government take away less money so that it has to give less minute back. 73,000 page tax code is so complicated this is how the government maintains power. it is giving all of these credits and deductions become because it takes too much away. of course it is true if you are late you pay and but if the government is late they do not. >> without eliminate the deduction for charitable donations? >> proceed. those are the did most popular, charitable and mortgage tax, good, add two more back in.
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the fundamental design philosophy, however, is lower every rate and close every loophole because government --. >> you would end those? i said probe, i said even if we put both back in, can you imagine how much simpler that would be? it takes away too much money and with all of those deductions and loopholes, it exerts power. i could live with two ducks a charitable and hole mortgage. but this is what happens. everyone said, you cannot take those away. >> i thought --. >> it never gets reformed. never. the fundamental blueprint you have to have a fundamental blue rip. you know why this never happened in because everyone's ox gets gored. if you go from 73,000 payments to three pages every ox is bored every politician every accountant and every lawyer and the only people who benefit is small, powerless, the tax code and the complexity of government
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favors the well concluded -- well connected. if you level the playing field by simplifying you help the small and the power-less and the middle class. >> finally, presbyterian got a -- president obama got a fair amount of attention this week for pardoning a turkey. it turns out you did the same thing. take a look. >> we are pardoning the turkey so you go on to find yourself a nice tom and create some turkeys that maybe will get eaten next year. >> that was jenny? >> that was johnny. >> an obama policy you would continue? >> it is a presidential tradition in fairness. many presidents have pardoned turkeys. >> there will be under presidential fiorina turkey pardoning? >> i will pardon turkeys, toms and johnnies.
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>> thank you. >> necessity, world leaders gather at a client summit even as they deal with a more immediate issue of terrorism. stay tuned. head of the senate intelligence committee richard burr. jusdoes that mean they have toer grow apart from their friends,
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warming. this comes amid a worldwide travel alert for united states citizens although the president says that there is in specific threat at home this holiday weekend. perform news correspondent is in paris ahead of the summit tomorrow. kevin? >> chris, good day. as you probably remember back during the president's recent tour of asia it was an economic tour but clearly global security and terrorism threaten to overshadow that and again threaten to evershadow the climate gathering here in paris. given the events of the 13th of november and we will be joined by dozens of world leaders for the particular summit, the security footprint is immense. that should not surprise anyone. climate change policy is a legacy item that the white house wants to solidify for a president who has said previously it poes an economic risk to national security. we should expect some sort of an accord from the cups gathered here before the end of the
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conference, but not necessarily a treaty. you should also expect the president to make use of the time in paris to meet with french president hollande and vladimir putin and maybe the president of turkey with isis and the syrian conflict high on the agenda. that is taking on a new level of response in the wake of the russian fighter jet being shot down by the tours over come lanes that the russian aircraft violated the turkish airspace and the foes at home should remember that goes back to the talks about de-escalation which we heard in the fall. expect the white house and the president advisors to try to tamp down the station tweak turkey and russia and take a volatile situation to a manageable helpful. >> thank, kevin, from paris. now from north carolina, we have richard burr chair of the senate intelligence begs. chairman as the business of the travel weekend of the year wrap
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up, is there any specific credible net against americans to the best of your knowledge heard if this country or around the world? >> chris, credible, specific? no. for the past 12 months there have been more threads of threat at low-to-mid and around the world that we have seen since lend -- since lend so the risk remains high but in the united states, clearly, the f.b.i. has wrap up over 67 individuals incarcerated this year and either prosecuted or in the process of being prosecuted. that will continue. >> how big an international footprint does isis have? how serious of a let in the united states and in other countries outside the middle east? >> chris, it is proven that isis is in 30 different countries and control eight provinces of
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countries. they have a reach that goes throughout europe and north america so to talk about containment, it is really a correct. the reality is that isis could be geographically contained in syria and iraq but their efforts around the world to project terrorism and to commit terrorism is as robust today as it has ever been. >> with that as a backdrop, at a news conference this week with french president hollande president obama did not announce despite the attack in mli or paris terror attacks, he did not discuss any new threats. what is your assessment of the president's strategy against isis and how much do you think it can accomplish? >> we have no strategy. i don't think you can find anyone in the world outside of the administration that could attempt to state what america's strategy is. in the past three weeks we have
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seen over on individuals killed around the world at hands of isis. i don't think there is any question of that. in syria alone we have had over 240,000 syrians killed by assad and isis. over four million refugees are in flight. it is time for an international coalition come in and arm grews like the -- grouped like the kurds to create a safe haven to stop the refugee flight out of syria but only with american leadership will that happen. i hope while the administration is if paris maybe they will talk with french president hollande who is committed to eliminating isis. we have to stop talking about containment. we have to talk about elimination of the terrorist threat. >> french friend after meeting with rebound in washington flew to now to meet with russian president vladimir putin and here is what problem said about
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vladimir putin. >> russia right now is a coalition of two. iran and russia supporting assad >> what is your best intelligence, chairman burr? can we count on vladimir putin? there is talk of a grand coalition. at first it seemed when vladimir putin met with french president hollande there was the possibility he would join the coalition and the russians walked away are that. what is roar sense of put but's intention -- of vladimir putin's intention? >> his intention is to prop up assad, that has always been the stated goal. i don't think we cannot remember that he inseparated crimea and prosecuted a border war in the ukraine. i an not sure that vladimir putin can be trusted. i make this fact: isis has to be eliminated. i am ready to put together whatever coalition is willing to
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attack isis and to eliminate this threat. that means gulf state partners, european partners, it may mean russia but russia complicates the options we have in syria with the amount of aircraft, with the amount of arms they have there. if we can focus those on isis versus the moderate opposition forces trying to defeat assad we could make a real impact but that is going to take a great deal of diplomacy we have yet to see. >> this has been interesting develop presidents on intelligence issues in the last week and i want to talk to you about those, sir. today, at midnight, the n.s.a.'s bulk data collection of americans' phone records, the program expired at midnight this morning and now the n.s.a. is going to need a court order from a judge to collect records on any american. we are not talking about consent
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just about my phone calls your phone and the people on two lines spoke for b number of minutes. what will be the impact on our terrorism effort? >> i don't think its too troubling you need a court order what is troubling you have to go to multiple companies and at their pace sent their records which means it could take weeks. what we saw in paris when we get a cell phone was that we used that cell phone numbers to look at numbers it talked to and paris and belgium investigators expanded the search net in a way that stopped a massive attack, an additional one in paris, potentially what led to the apprehension of at least a dozen if not more isis operatives through bell up, germany and
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parts of europe. i am not sure we know the full extent of we have learned. when you can take electronics and use that it is beneficial to the world's intelligence community and the united states made a real mistake when they eliminated this program where we could search foreign known terrorist phone numbers to see if they talked to anyone in the united states. that makes sense to the american people. but congress took that away from the nasa and unfortunately it is not going to be a typely fool to use in the future. >> you have signed on to legislation that now is in the senate that would revise the program which ran out as of midnight but the senate voted to help the program in june so what are the chances they will reverse that just a few months later? >> it is amazing what happens when people are reminded what terrorists can do. it did not happen at home but the american response to the
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paris attack was a significant outside of new york and new jersey as 9/11 the american people realize that the indiscriminate brutal acts that isis carried out could happen in any community across this country and throughout the world. as americans we believe we should do everything we can to eliminate that. no one who the terrorists are and where operatives could be in the united states is something that americans expect us to know, they expect us to investigate. i want to make sure that the tools that law enforcement have are as robust as they possibly can be and meta data is a contributor. >> last issue, there are several investigations into allegations that officers at the united states senate command, the militariation that oversees the middle east were amtorying -- were altering to down play the threat from isis. you have talked to whistleblowers and there are
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several investigations going on in your committee and the pentagon inspector general. how substantial is the evidence that intelligence was doctored? >> it is very concerning. the whistleblower i have talked to was very compelling. clearly some of information that has come out in the last seven days supported what that wonderful blower claimed. when we have intelligence that may have been altered in some way to fit a narrative that could be the narrative set by the white house is concerning to me. to think it could come from one of our combatant commands, that is extreme troubling because that changes the risk our combat forces could perceive they will be faced with in that combat theater. i want to make sure our --. >> let me pick up on that. this week, when faced with thals presbyterian denied that he had
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anything to do with that. take a look at what the president had to say. >> something i insisted on the day i walked into the oval office, i don't want intelligence shaded by politics, why want it shadeed by the desire to tell feel good story. >> proofly, senator, do you have any evidence that the white house was involved in cooking the intelligence? >> i don't. we will look at the timeline very carefully to figure out whether the narrative was there before the intelligence backed it up. we have a case if benghazi that currently is under investigation where we know that a narrative went out that was factually incorrect. when all the facts on ground said it was terrorism we were out talking about a video so narrative is something the white house has run with and it concerned me now because americans' libs are at stake our soldiers and sailors and airmen
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and mains lives -- and marines, their lives are at stake. >> next our sunday group joins the conversation on the increased terror threat just as government's bulk data collection of americans' phone records runs owe. >> what without like do ask the person el about weaponing the homeland safe? may use your questions on the may use your questions on the air.
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to god forbid tomorrow morning there is a paris attack in the upd, the first question everyone's going to have is why didn't we know about it and why didn't we stoit >> senator marco rubio taking a swipe as the today of the bulk data program after an officers federal report threat. we have brit hume, former democratic congresswoman jane harmon director of the woodrow wilson center, and fox news chief washington corporate, james rosen author of "cheney, one-on-one." and robert costa from the "washington post". bright, -- brit, it is interesting, the american's phone record bulk collection, ran out last night as a worldwide travel alert was issued for all members. >> there is more than that because this figures in the
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republican presidential campaign because marco rubio and ted cruz are competing for some of the same voters and one of the talking points of marco rubio reflected by the soundbite you show is that ted cruz voted to end the program is you have that factor added into this, as well, and my sense is that we never did have a victim that came forward or was ever shown there was a victim of the program and intelligence professionals such as mike hayden former c.i.a. director has been on the program many times and insisted again and again it was very useful and helpful so it is fair to say that a great many intelligence officials thing we are without an effective tool for anticipating the attacks. >> congresswoman you were the former top democrat on the house of representatives intelligentsia. did you see evidence that the n.s.a. abused its powers in clocking americans' phone
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records? do you think the expiration of program as of midnight will hurt our counterterrorism efforts? >> first of all i supported the program. i was brief on it early in the public administration and i thought that the legal underpinnings were weak and in 2008 congress made a big effort to put the whole program under law as part of the foreign intelligence act i voted for it. the change came about after i left congress. there is a lot of we discontent after the snowden leaks with the invasion of privacy. but the good news is this, first all, the program was not abused. second, the law that recently passed which does change the program, does not eliminate it, third, we have other surveillance tools which are lawful and which we continue continue to employ and a big part of those expire or sunset in 2017 and by then i would hope this is a coalition that would understand the point of having
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robust surveillance tools for our government given the threat. >> we asked you for questions. we got this on facebook "how can we trust the president with vetting refugees," talking about syrian refugees "when he accident doing in about sanctuary cities and open border s." james? thank you is a good one i would say that, look, the president is going to take a national security approach to the vetting of the refugees. wraps, more than he with with the immigration issue. and that can be debated whether it is the right approach. i pick up on another point. on the same day when president obama was in turkey giving the remarks about the paris terror attacks you will recall he got irritated by the questions from we the reporters saying that is a variation on same question. he was telling us that strategy against isis is working more or
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less making progress but a set back but it will take time on the very same day we had director of the c.i.a. telling us that the audience two things were occurring, the terrorists are going to school on new technologies, that is the word he used "going to school," post. ♪en, evers are restricted, so you have the president saying, the strategy is working give it time and then john brennan saying the terrorists thoughts are getting the upper hand because they have better encryption technologies and our hands are tied behind our back. >> problem an issue of domestic violence or domestic terrorism, the deadly attack on friday at the planned parenthood clinic where a gunman killed one police officer and two civilians. it is unclear, although he talked about no more baby parts, it is unclear the motive. do you think this will fire up the political debate about
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abortion and gun control? on gun control i do not based on my reporting there is no political capital in the congress, a republican congress, to move forward on gun control. in some states like person, a senator up for re-election is talking about background checks but the other republicans are not pushing for it. republicans have gone hard after planned parenthood with the vexes by the republicans but i don't see it changes, but senator ted cruz offered in iowa his condolences to the victims. >> the democrats? do you see them change their position? >> especially on gun control, democrats were running for the senate, for governor, take their cues from the president urging congress to act more on gun control and it is a key issue. i am looking at new hampshire with a re-election in the senate and hillary clinton has been a
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staunch advocate for more gun criminal but she does not have a primary that is competitive so it will not be central. >> another interesting development, brit, we had more protests in chicago over the release of a video and, also, over the charging of a white liver with first-degree murder a year after he allegedly shot a -- shot a young black teen, 16 times, unarmed. what was most interesting was that the protests were, well, clearly heartfelt and they clogged the magazine enough sent mile of the downtown shopping area of chicago as you can see, but they were peaceful. >> they were peaceful. and they had a point: why did it take a year for this video to surface? the suspicion of course, is at time of the incident and the video was made, that the mayor rahm emanuel was up for re-election and did not want to
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have this surface with all the potential trouble it could cause. but the right thing was done and the video is graphic and it is clear you did not need to shoot that guy 16 types if at all and the guy has been charged with murder which seems like an appropriate charge. but the delay is a problem. the profits were peaceful. i wonder if this would have been profits on this scale if the video came out at the time and the charge of murder had been lodged. remember what happened in tennessee when something like this occurred, and the response was immediate. was it tennessee or south carolina? why recall but there was a police shooting, the guy shot dead in the park, and three was immediately charged and the community rallied. i am not sure they would rally so much in chicago. >> it is astonishing when the tape is so incriminating it would take 13 months, i think, to charge this individual
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officer the. >> hard to explain that. >> when we come back, the two frontrunners in the republican presidential race are trying to deal with some self inflicted wounds. come on in pop pop.
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where are you from? >> g.o.p. presidential candidate dr. ben carson meeting with syrian refugees in jordan following weeks of questions about his foreign policy credentials. we are back with the panel. dr. ben carson on a two day trip to jordan now says the refugees should stay in camps in jordan or someplace else in the middle east with increased aid from the west but should not be brought we to the united states.
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brit, does the 48 hours in the middle east solve ben carson's commander in chief issue? >> it doesn't solve but it helps . it was wise of him to go there. to be seen there. as in the video. and the remedy he is suggesting is one that is likely to be popular among republican primary voters. don't bring them here but hope them there and he can say he came to the conclusion by virtue of the visit but it happens to be a politically convenient position to take. so that probably helps. >> congresswoman harmon is it fair to say you are a long-term democrat. if the world stays, the world station is ugly as it is with the spread of isis, the threat of isis spreading and the civil war in syria continuing, what impact would that have on hillary clinton as political candidate? will her ties to obama or yes degrees be a plus or minus?
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>> it will help anyone and there membership running in the republican party, too, who are responsible and serious thingers about foreign policy were it will not help people with make outrageous comments about people and the muslims and building walls. it will help her. but it could help responsible republicans, let me say one thing about the ben carson visit. what is wrong with a million refugees in jordan and refugees around syria is all those countries are now destabilized and understand that isis wants the caliphate for the moment to be in syria but there are rumors it could move to libya or yemen and other failed states and if all of places are ripe for this, civil war in radical sue any islam. >> but i want to pick up on the clinton question because the positives indicate by a wide margin people do not thing the president has a handle on isis or being aggressive enough in
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fighting terrorism and she was the secretary of state and the architect of much of this for the first four years of obama, you do not think that will impact her? >> people will try to connect her to parts of obama's policies that have not succeeded but it has been public knowledge that she was for the limited bombing syria, which petraeus was pore and i personally was forced, a major strategic mistake of the obama presidency the. >> meanwhile donald trump as we mentions earlier with fiorina, created another major controversy for himself when he seemed to mock we a reporter with serious physical disability. take a look. >> he said i don't remember, maybe that is what i said this is 14 years ago. they did not did a retraction. >> he told a rally yesterday, that he with never make fun of someone and, in fact, the reporter and the "new york times" are exploiting this
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situation and this misunderstanding. we have been anything for a long period of time that trump would say something that would be over the line. is this the one? >> reasonable not. donald trump is new to the political aran in sense of campaigns and legs but not new to media. and messaging and manipulation of the media. the greater threat to donald trump's candidacy is not displays of in or getting and fights with john mccain or megyn kelly, but the greater threat to his viability is dissent into being conventional and when that happens that is when the numbers will happen. >> there does not seem to be danger of that in the immediate future. >> given the animal. >> brit, your thoughts? >> it was crude and pretty obvious what three was doing. for him to come out and say, no, i would never mock someone's disability is almost self evident whopper but the striking
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thing about the donald trump people is nothing seems to matter and i think they have proved abraham lincoln right you can fool some of people all of time. he is doing it. >> perhaps the most important development this week, the most interesting was a new poll, look at this, in iowa which now shows that texas senator ted cruz has doubled his support in the last in and as you can see is in the dead heat with donald trump and ben carson has fallen quite a bit in iowa but robert, we have been waiting a long-term too see if the two frontrunners with lose altitude. is this it? >> i just got back from a few days in iowa and follows cruz around and you can see the surge up close. the evangelical base are turning away from ben carson and still respect and like him but they see ted cruz as a credible outsider who can do the distance. he is a political athlete.
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he stayed until midnight shaking happeneds and tag about an hour after the speech ended and there is someone who is having 17 or 18 stops today and tomorrow in iowa and he is maying a play for the state, for super tuesday, and if trip or ben carson fall for some reason, ted cruz is right there to pick up support. >> let me pick up a couple of aspects, to the degree there is turning away from ben carson, why? >> because of foreign policy. i have en to his campaign manager they know this is vulnerable and are addressing it. >> as far as ted cruz we hear beg aggressive ground game, a lot of money and he can play the role as the -- he is a senator but as the insider's outsider. how does it look up close? >> ted cruz is not banking egg on iowa but playing for the super tuesday state, alabama, and places you do not thing of.
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cruz has an organization looking for long haul. >> the other candidates? particularly in iowa, the first one, who has a strong ground game? who of the leading candidates doesn't? donald trump has a stronger ground than most realize with santorum's former advisor and ben carson has a grass roots network, and huckabee and santorum are in the race still split the tea party evangelical vote and until they are out it interestinggrounded. development, brit, chris christie got the endorsement of the manchester union leader and seems to be getting traction in new hampshire where santa cruzly the campaign was in trouble but he is picking up steam. >> he is going nowhere in iowa which does not hurt new hampshire, with the voters reacting negative to people with a led of steam in iowa so that is a plus.
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he could be about to have a moment here as candidates sometimes do, campaigning intensely in the state and his bluff style; i think, has traction there so i would not be surprised to see him make a move. this race is a jumble. >> a year away the all of this helps hillary clinton. it is a race for the soul of the republican party and if it is a right wing soul, she wins. >> but it is less than 70 days to iowa. see you next sunday. thank are follow cogging in. our power player of the week, again, once again, i dance with the turkeys.
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the arrival of the official christmas tree at the white house. this year's tree comes from a the arrival of the official christmas tree at the white house. it comes from pennsylvania. here's a holiday riddle we ask every thanksgiving. who founded a huge tech company, created a successful cosmetic business, and now raises turkeys like the indians did? here's our power player of the week. >> farm with the land, farm with the seasons, now your soil, know your rainfall, know your
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weather, know your animals. >> reporter: sandy learner is talking about sustainable farming. raising livestock and growing vegetables without the chemicals so common she calls factory farming. just days before thanksgiving she took me out to see and, yes, dance with her 1300 turkeys. heritage breeds that trace back to the indians. >> come on. raise your arms. gobble, gobble, gobble, gobble, gobble. >> reporter: lerner is heritage of the farm in virginia but as interesting as her business is how she got here. she grew up in a farm in california making enough from raising cattle to send herself to college. >> what i learned was to love work. i am really happiest when i'm engaenlged and working and striving. >> reporter: she got into computers. in 1984 she and her then husband started cisco systems. that found a way to link networks of computers, the
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foundation of the internet. but six years later venture capital people were running cisco. how do you get fired from a company that you started? >> we just basically got taken to the cleaners and part of that was if you don't have an employment contract, i got fired by the same guy who fired steve jobs. >> reporter: lerner had a second act. she started a cosmetics company called urban decay with edgy colors for women like her. and in 1996 she bought ayershir farm. >> it's for people who had disposable income who made strides in farming. look at george washington and thomas jefferson. >> reporter: she raises shires, war-horses that goes back centuries, and turkeys which she says tastes better because of the lives they lead. >> how much does an ayershire
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turkey cost? >> well, our turkeys are expensive. they're between -- i think they're running this year between $160 and $200. >> reporter: at those prices there are questions about how to make this kind of farming profit an. while lerner is determined to run a sound business, it's not just about the bottom line. there's a 40-room mansion on the farm. what's it like living there? >> i don't know. >> what do you mean? >> i live in a little log cabin and i love it. >> do you think you're a bit eccentric? >> i am now that i'm rich. i used to just be weird. >> reporter: so just days before thanksgiving sandy lerner and i dance with the turkeys. she grew up on a farmly farm and she wants to see those values live on. >> i'm a cowgirl. i can tell what cows are thinking. it's very much my success as a farmer which is what george washington was. he wanted to be a really good farmer. and i think i've been ---ive i've become a good farmer. >> sandy lernor saw more than
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800 turkeys this thrks and she donated more than 200 to local charities. that's it for today. have a great week. we'll see you next "fox news sunday." president obama in paris and making a late night visit to the bataclan concert hall, the site of one of the french terror attacks earlier this month. the president paying his respects just moments ago. these are brand new pictures coming in to fox news. this i visit his very first stop, i should say, after air force one had landed in paris a short time ago. this was all been the last hour or so. the reason for his visit, an international climate change summit. one that could shape his legacy years after he is in office. we wanted to quick ly show you that picture because it had just come in. that climate conference generating some sort of a deal

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