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ringing in 2016 on fnc, donald trump will join us exclusively. i would like to wish everyone a very merry christmas. i'm eric bolling in for bill o'reilly. breaking tonight, campaign controversy after one of the most powerful media outlets in the land attacks a candidate's young children. welcome to the "kelly file". i'm sandra smith in for megyn kelly tonight. it starred ted cruz and his family. in it, the critics spoofed some made-up classics. >> the whole family will enjoy reading stories
like "the grinch who lost her e-mails." >> i know what i'll do, i'll use my own server and no one will be the wiser. >> and if you act now, we'll
send you the new story sure to be a classic "the senator who saved christmas." >> this is a good one. >> but just a few days later, a washington post political cartoonist accused cruz of using his 5 and 7-year-old daughters as political props. and went so far as to portray the presidential candidate in a santa outfit with an organ grinder and little caroline and kathryn cruz as mondaykikeymonk. but the cartoonist is not apologizing. taking to twitter, arguing the little girls are fair game, because cruz put his children in the ad, something many politicians on both sides of the aisle do. the paper's editorial page editor had a different take, saying, quote, it's generally been the policy of our editorial section to leave children out of
t i failed to look at this cartoon before it was published. i understand why ann thought an exception to the policy was warranted in this case, but i do not agree. meanwhile, senator cruz
hit back on twitter and on the campaign trail. >> you know, i have to admit yesterday when i saw that cartoon, not much ticks me off. but making fun of my girls, that will do it. all of us learned in kindergarten, don't hit little girls. it's not complicated. don't make fun of a 5-year-old girl and a 7-year-old girl. ever expects the mainstream media to be liberally biased. folks want to attack me, knock yourself out. that's part of the process. i signed up for that, that's fine. but my girls didn't sign up for that. >> several of his fellow candidates also agreed with him, suggesting the paper was way out of line. in the hours since, the cruz
campaign has started fund-raising off that campaign saying the liberal media is desperate to destroy him and his family. as for "the post", it's now suggesting this was all a gift to cruz, because, in part, it boosts his argument that the media doesn't treat him or conservatives fairly. joining us now, chris stirewalt. is there anything okay about this political cartoonist using a presidential candidate's children? >> well, i'd sure like to see what they would have done if they'd done that with the obama girls. i don't think that would have washed. and when you wonder about double standards and how life is different for republican candidates than it is for democratic candidates. here you have one of the first top tier hispanic candidates running for president, every for
a major party, the man's running and his doaughters are depicted as monkeys. if this had been on obama, the criticism would have been much, much louder. they're his dog gone daughters. and there is no space for anybody in any news outlet to use them for their purposes. >> we know what happens in the case of the obama daughters. a gop staffer criticized their behavior and appearance at a turkey pardon, that gop staffer was then fired. what should happen to this washington post editor. he said he failed to look at it before it was published. >> no editor can look at every piece of content before it's posted online. but this is an utter embarrassment to "the washington post".
and the gall to say, yes, but we're raising money on this. this is a dad with two little girls, and they've been portrayed at animals. this is not some gray area of maybe the paper went too farr. this is an outrage, and the muted media outrage, if this had involved the obama children or chelsea clinton, this would have been ire. >> he said i was sickened by this. i fluknew i'd be facing this, bi never imagined this. is this a good tactic for him to
turn around and use it to raise money? >> very often conservatives don't know who they are going to be interested in supporting until they find out who the press hates the most. and in the case of a republican primary race, having the washington post, and by the way, every news outlet treats ted cruz as if he is some sort of troglodyte. how do they like this guy? he's so conservative, so polarizing, why this guy? what they don't understand, everything that they do that they think is hurting ted cruz is hardening the base around him the way it's done for sarah palin and donald trump, the way it's done for other conservatives. if they're after him, he must be doing something right. >> we have a moment that you shared with megyn in february, the media running after
hillary's scooby van. >> i'm sorry, but when i see those reporters chasing after their subject who remain so elusive, who despite their own efforts they cannot pin down, the reporters there reminded me of the reporters here. remember this? the police. they look like the police. look at the police. the police, they're trying to capture an elusive subject, and the reporters did the same. [ laughter ] not comparing the subjects to one another. want to underscore that. >> howie, we had to. >> that was not the media's finest hour. i would point out that other reporting on hillary clinton has pointed out the fiasco of her media server. i don't think every single reporter of every single news organization is biased against ted cruz, but now the "new york times" has a piece on how unlikable he is, and he's trying
to get likeable but little kids don't like him. so when a pulitzer prizewinning cartoonist does this and instead of making a statement saying maybe i went too far, it does fuel the sentiment that they are out to get him. >> we had such a fun moment. >> oh, be serious. lamas. >> bring back the scooby van. >> that is one of the worst media fails of 2015. can we just have a laugh for a minute? >> not the lamas. that was a high point, one of the best things that happened in 2015. and they were able to decode it saying that the black lama was taken into custody first, and what does this mean for the black lives matter movement. twitter, for politics, however, has been worse than it has been for lamas, and not to bring it down, but unfortunately, in the airless crypt that is good sense, good reason and good
judgment in politics, much of that has gone away, as reporters have joined in candidates in chasing phony outrage after outrage after outrage, and frankly, i'm tired. i'm glad the year's over. i need a break. >> chris, we have a lek n elect year coming up. go get some rest, buddy. the caucus, do you expect anything to change in 2016? >> it's been amazing how much this campaign is hijacked by phony controversies. but the entire way the media establishment missed the rise of donald trump, mocked and minimized him, said he was going to implode any moment and failed to understand the anger and anxiety in the country that trump was connecting with and the deep distrust of the political establishment and the media establishment. that's not a great laugh line, but it has not been a great
year. >> chris is tired. we've got to let him go get some rest. thanks guys. >> merry christmas. breaking tonight, tornados ripping through parts of mississippi. our local fox affiliate reporting that at least three people have been killed. among the dead, a 7-year-old boy who was in a car. we understand that the storm has also injured several more people and has destroyed homes in the area. we are tracking these storms and will have a report a little bit later in this hour. meanwhile, new polling suggests there could be a bit less debating at the holiday table this year as people begin to narrow downir picks for president. dana perino is here with her handicap of the race and advice on keeping a cool head when it comes to heated political debates around the holidays. and new concerns over the government's ability to keep us safe, as we see new evidence that one of the san bernardino terrorists should never have been allowed into this country.
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talking points around the holiday table in the coming days with several new polls suggesting folks are seriously beginning to narrow down their choices for president. we are just 40 days now out from the iowa caucuses. as a new cnn national poll shows trump continuing to dominate his gop competitors by a more than 2-1 margin. and in second place, senator ted cruz outpaces the rest of the field by nearly 10 points. one of our favorite washington insiders is sharing her holiday handicap and how to keep your cool as the race for 2016 starts heating up. dana perino is co-host of "the five." a former white house press secretary under president bush. and author of "and the good news is" >> with a santa hat. >> so what will the conversation be around american christmas tables? >> well, i think that because there is so much interest as given by the ratings for all of
the debates in the 2016 the election that there's no doubt as families gather, it will be who do you like, who do you like? and it will be the first time that families have gathered to lock it down. up until now, people have been sort of window shopping for what candidate they want. now they're taking three to four candidates into the dressing room to figure out, do i like this dress? do i not. and the polls are starting to lockdown. >> the national polls look fabulous for donald trump and they have for a long time. the polls in the early states are not as good for him, but still pretty good. and i think the national polls will probably have some bearing on those states. iowa being the most important, february 1st. and then right on the heels of that will be new hampshire, two wildly different states. ted cruz doing well in iowa and the others sort of on their heels of the front runners in new hampshire. >> the women, the women vote. the gender gap you say, something we're leaving out. >> i feel like people are really missing this point.
so thank you for giving me another chance to mention it. do you remember october 2012, there were republicans all across the country, including me, who would say, yeah, mitt romney can definitely win this election. how could president obama actually win reelection, and president obama ran away with it. one of the most important things is the women voigt. donald trump and ted cruz, while doing very well nationally and well with some women, they actually have a gender gap of 27 to 19 points. so that means they are underwater with women. 12% of women in the republican party say they are still undecided. if i were trump or cruz and doing as well as they're doing, i would start trying to figure out how to deal with the gender gap. in a general election, remember this. one quarter of the electorate, 25% of the electorate in 2016, will be made up of single women. >> wow. >> president obama won women votes by 10 percentage points of
55% to 45% over mitt romney. republicans have to do better with women, and i would say that the front runners in the republican primary must find a way to broaden their support. >> so do you think trump and his team are strategizing? >> all of his people will tell you he's doing great with women. he loves women. i'm just telling you the numbers show a different story. if i were them and wanted to close the deal, i would figure out a way to appeal to women. >> you wrote this op ed that has got and lot of attention. resolved in 2016, i will not let politics strip me of my dignity, you begin the piece by talking about an experience you had on an airplane that left your stomach twisted. >> yeah. >> so i even know for myself in 2012, during that election, i found myself, i would yell at bob beckel or whoever it might be, and i felt ugly about it, and it's one of those things for me i couldn't even forgive myself for it. and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. the other night coming home on a flight i heard this couple talking about one of the candidates and their group of
supporters, and it was so ugly, as if those people had no reason for living, and they were not even americans. and i thought we were stronger as americans because of our political system. we are stronger because of our diversity, not in spite of it. what i wanted to do for myself personally is to say i am going to try so hard in 2016 to remember that the most important things in life are not politics >> we forget that sometimes, don't we? >> but the most port things are faith, family and friends, and politics should not strip any of us of our dignity in 2016. >> such a great message as we enter the end of the year. and one thing that i wrote that y being born in this country is wonderful. where we start after the finish line is up to us. >> we have a lot of reasons to be thankful and greatful to be americans. in the new years we're going to
lose our temper once in a while. i'm probably going to need help getting this done, and wine might be very helpful. >> wine can be very helpful. >> dana, thank you, and merry christmas. >> and happy new year. just ahead, as we gear up for the early state contests, we take a look at the best and worst political ads of the 2016 election season to day. pollster frank luntz is here with his analysis. plus, we'll tell butt big change coming to virginia that has republicans and second amendment supporters up in arms. here's to the woman make her feel as beautiful as she truly is. with exquisite gemstones and diamonds by effy, starting at $999.99. helzberg diamonds. here's to love.
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reporting at least three people have been killed. among them, a 7-year-old boy. additionally, there are reports of homes being destroyed. forecasters are warning there is the possibility of even more tornados tonight. we're tracking this dangerous situation and will bring you updates as we get them. developing tonight, new reaction and analysis of the best and worst political ads of the 2016 election. frank luntz is a pollster, and author of "what americans really want, really." frank, good evening to you. >> good evening, and i brought three ads that i think audiences are going to like. number one is donald trump. now let me set the tone. he's done the least a advertising of any of the leading candidates, because he gets so much publicity on shows like this one. but what makes this ad interesting, it's a radio ad, is
that it has an impact. it says what republican voters want to hear and says so in a way that really turns them on. let's take a look. >> i'm going to make the greatest trade deals we've ever made in our country, and i'm going to bring jobs and money back to the united states. i'll take care of our veterans and make our military so strong that nobody will mess with us. i'll secure our borders, and yes, we will have a wall. you can't have a country without borders. and i'll make sure that the second amendment and our religious liberty are protected. obamacare is a total disaster. it will be repealed and replaced with something much better. >> now understand that a typical radio ad only tests in the 20s or 30s, because there's no visual. but when donald trump articulated the things that he's going to do, step by step, one after another, the response is very positive among conservatives and moderates. >> so it's very clear, frank, that in this political cycle, and in this coming election year, what is working is the
direct ads, the direct speak, people are liking the energy that they're hearing from ted cruz and donald trump. what's not working? >> well, what's not working, we're going to shift the order, i'm warning the producer. what's not working is something that jeb bush d he's trying to show that as governor he was very effective, which moel analysts agree w in fact, arguably, he's one of the best governors of the last 20 years, but the problem with this ad, and it doesn't dial well, because it shows you what he looked like back ten, 15 years ago. and the fact is, human beings age. so you're going to see a
response that's not nearly as positive. let's take a look. >> i know how to do this, because i was privileged to serve in florida for eight years. 1.3 million new jobs were created. we cut taxes avenue year. income rose in people's pockets.
people were lifted out of poverty. children started to learn. as president of the united states, i present to you that i will solve problems. >> he was a great governor, and he gave the record very effectively, but the visuals don't work. and whoever designed that on
his political team, i think that was the pac. frank i will, they should be fired. because you can look at bush's numbers. 3%, for someone who is that good a governor and only has 3% of the vote today, you know something's wrong with the presentation. >> interesting, presenting your track record, which was arguably a very good one. as far as the economy in florida, is it working? but what is working is an ad by ted cruz in which he has had a trend of pulling right from his campaign rallies, right from the debate, frank, which is arguably been very good on the campaign's pocket book. it doesn't cost as much. >> and we're going to show ah national security ad that absolutely tested through the roof. let's take a look. >> if i'm elected to serve as
commander in chief. we won't cower in the face of evil. we'll kill the terrorists, a ii know, if you wade -- wage jihad against america, you will suffer. >> it's one of the reasons why ted cruz is second and gaining all across country. >> all right, as a good
review, many more likely to come, but it's interesting to come, what's actually work. >> i do want to encourage people to watch the fox business debate. great questioners, perfect timing, january 14th. and this is exactly why the public is so engaged. because they want to know exactly what the candidates are saying. >> charleston, south carolina,
i'll be there. thank you. coming up, we are getting our first look inside the immigration file of san bernardino terrorist, tashfeen malik. raising even nmore questions about the vieisa process. and as the sale of firearms surges this season, the new york city mayor is teaming up for a message about gun violence just in time for christmas. >> i heard about a shooting involving a 3-year-old girl. my daughter is that age. >> my parents always say a bullet doesn't have a name in it. >> somebody put a bullet in the back of my 14 year old son's head. >> we're
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we're getting word of tornados hitting the south and midwest just as people prepare for christmas eve. the storm prefecture center has reported that 14 tornados have touched down in mississippi alone. at least three people there, including a 7-year-old boy, have been killed. authorities are going door to door to search for any more possible victims. our chief meteorologist is tracking it all from the fox weather center. >> such a dangerous night across parts of the central areas of the country. we've been so calm and so warm across the eastern seaboard. now that warm air is giving way to severe weather as cold air moves in behind it. and we have tornado watches across a big chunk of the country, from parts of indiana and ohio to the midsouth here. and potentially some very
long-living, large, dangerous storms that we're going to watch pull off into the northeast in the overnight hours. much more dangerous when you have these storms late at night, but this is the bull's eye where you see the red. it includes nashville and louisville. and later on tonight into the birmingham area could be watching for tornados moving through. even though that's not on the highlighted area. if you're in the northern parts of alabama, watch it. because of these warm temperatures we have. and take a look at what happens on christmas eve. we're going to be breaking records, shattering records, 66 degrees for a high on christmas eve in boston. 71 in new york. 73 in atlanta. even on christmas day we remain very warm. much of the area clearing out a little bit. a dangerous night ahead with all of the tornados and record-breaking temperatures for christmas eve.
sandra? and developing tonight, growing outrage out of virginia where the state's democratic attorney general announced that the commonwealth will no longer recognize out of state, concealed handgun permits held by residents of 25 states. a decision made unilaterally without the state legislature. the move will impact more than 6 million legal gun owners when it goes into effect next year. joining me now, guy benson from townhall.com. age know meeky counts. welcome to you both. >> merry christmas. >> i'm sure we're going to see a spirited debate from both of you. i'll start out with the anger we're seeing from the republicans and supporters of the second amendment, john witback, chairman of the
republican party says it is further evidence that democrats have declared war on the second amendment. >> i'm here with my family. they're nra members and gun owners. they said, listen, we want stronger gun laws. 75% of nra members believe there should be universal background checks. allva ha all virginia is trying to do is prevent, they have strong gun laws. but the states that have the weakest gun laws, they shouldn't allow their citizens to come in and carry, and they don't pass the same laws that virginia has to go through. just like if you smoke weed, if you have a license, a medical marijuana license in colorado, you can't walk into a state and smoke weed saying i have this medical marijuana license this my state, why can't i smoke in this other state. state laws matter. >> i have to get guy in here.
guy, in a clear sign that americans feel that their second amendment right is being stripped away from them and more changes may be coming. this holiday season, you know, i'm on the fox business network all day long, and we have been consistently reporting a spike in gun sales in this country. a lot of people are going to be opening up a gun underneath their christmas tree. >> it's not just gun sales but polling on these issues. and actually, i'm a virginia resident, i vote in the state of virginia, and what's fascinating is we just had an election, sandra, in my state. and the democrats in northern virginia campaigned on strict gun control laws to try to beef up gun control. and guess what, they lost. they failed to regain the state senate despite this entire push they put together. now that they've lost. now that they've had a failed attempt to convince voters, what are they doing? they're having the state attorney general, a democrat, impose this agenda by fiat. now apparently, he's within his
legal rights and authority to do so, but it's just interesting, because the democrats tried to persuade virginians, this is what ought to be done. virginians disagreed. they did it anyway. >> they didn't want it, they're still doing it anyway, nomiki, and they're saying this is what the state and the people want. >> this is all about the virginia law. people come from different states and abiding by their own laws have to follow virginia law. if they pass the virginia law, they can have a visitor's license. let's talk about the nra spends $30 million a year lobbying the legislatures in these states, and the states with the weakest gun laws, you have the most gun violence, and that is brought to you by gun manufacturers who aren't representing nra members. they want to make sure that their loopholes for felons, convicts, rapists, murderers, illegal immigrants and
terrorists can purchase guns. they're making money off of tragedy. >> let's move forward. this christmas holiday, you're going to be sitting down watching sports, many of us. and while you are watching basketball, you are likely, guy, to see the national basketball association, the nba, teaming up with mike bloomberg's gun control group, it's called "every town". this is an ad campaign to end gun violence, okay? the "new york times" actually publishing today that this is unlike anything we've ever seen before. we've seen professional athletes speak out and have a stance on this, but until now, no major sports league has lent its name and logo. we're going to see this across all these games this holiday. >> everyone is against gun violence. especially law-abiding gun owners. i have no problem with celebrities or athletes or whom
ever, advocating on behalf of causes they care about. there was quite a snit fit when tim tebow did something on the pro-life issue. but they are well kwithin their rights to get out there and make these cases. i'm not sure that this is going to bring about new changes in terms of gun control laws. if you look at public opinion, it is shifting away from gun control. and the nba has a gun violence culture to deal with itself. >> nomiki, you're shaking your head, the ads are going to feature star athletes, calling for an end to violence. the first 30-second ad is set to air five times on friday, christmas day alone. >> a lot of these nba players come from communities where there's gun violence and have had family members as victims.
i think the message is very powerful, especially to americans who do want sensible gun laws. it's absolutely untrue. the polls are saying that gun owners want sensible laws. they don't want felons to have access to these gun, open loopholes. they don't want the lax gun laws they have in states that don't have violencviolence, compared $30 million spent by manufacturers and lobbyists. that's why we're not having any action. nothing's changing because law makes are being bought and sold. anytime there's a tracgedtraged have the nra putting ads to buy guns. >> you're ignoring the constitution. >> it's the illegal gun owners
that we are concerned about. and new laws won't -- >> they don't follow the law. >> that's the point. guying -- guys, thanks. we are getting new evidence that one of the terrorists from the san bernardino attacks should never have been allowed here in the first place. plus the latest on a you never know when it'll be your moment to shine. so don't trust your smile to any regular toothpaste. improved crest 3d white brilliance removes 5 times more stains than the red box. try the whole collection for a smile that gets you noticed.
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breaking tonight, new details on day two of a bloody military operation to oust isis from a critically important city in iraq. more than 10,000 iraqi security troops have poured into ramadi, a key strategic and symbolic city, just 60 miles from baghdad. isis overran ramadi in may. it was an embarrassing defeat for iraq and the u.s. today the coalition aircraft dropped more than 50 bombs on isis targets, and right now, hundreds of iraqi troops are closing in on a fortified isis compound in the heart of the city. it is estimated that up to 350 jihadists are dug in and willing to fight to the death. iraqi forces say it may take another two or three days to clear the city. also breaking tonight, we're getting our first look at new evidence that may prove one of
the san bernardino terrorists should never have been allowed into the country. this is the entry visa, and passport, of tashfeen malik. she's pakistani immigrant who along with her husband killed 14 innocent people at a christmas party. malik was given a visa reserved for fiances of u.s. citizens the she is required to prove that the couple had met and intended to marry. but we're learning that may never have actually happened. pete hegseth is a fox news contributor and veteran. and robert zimmerman is co-founder of zimmerman on public relations. did this visa application process, did it fail us? did it fail us as a country? >> it clearly failed. i mean, there was a set of information. our government asked for. they provided a portion of t they never actually proved that
they met in person. and then suddenly, somehow, it was approved anyway. so you've got,clearly, a giant bureaucracy looking to almost box check, as we know with so many of these bureaucracies that's what happens. there's such an overwhelming volume, they don't know how to handle it, so they shuffle it through as a de facto decision without analyzing what was in the file, without really knowing whether they met and any sort of validation of whether it's factual. so you get what we got. and you wonder why people are so frustrated with our immigration system. it's because it's a box-checking exercise, not actually validated at the ground level. >> robert, in the chairman's release, he says it demonstrates that the screening process was incomplete by the state department's own standards, by the findings that were released here, it is tough to disagree with anything. and the fact that lives could have been saved if this process had been efficient. >> let's be clear, while the investigation is ongoing, it is
well-established that the visa application process has got to be tightened. president obama's called for that. and we're seeing strong bipartisan leadership where they voted to tighten the visa application process, and senator chuck schumer is leading 22 democrats to do the same. this is a bureaucracy that has plagued our government for over a decade now. and we're seeing progress made, but let's not jump to conclusions over whether lives could have within saved. as we look at this visa situation, as frustrating as it is, it is, should concern all of us to see the republican presidential candidates use this as a political tool to attack refugees and spread more hate and fear. and that's what should concern us enormously, because the refugee children and the refugees coming in from syria are also the victims of terrorists. and the united states should be very focussed on --
>> shouldn't it matter where they're coming from? isn't there a basic litmus test we can apply when we're at war? >> when it comes to refugees, there is a filter put in place. in fact, we have an extraordinary system >> extraordinary. >> indeed we have. >> you say extraordinary system, but the american people don't feel that way. >> well, you know something? with all the fear and hate mongering, i would see that. and -- >> i'm not fear mongering. it's the facts. >> no, the facts are that we have taken in over 785,000 refugees since 9/11. only 12 have had to be returned. we've taken in 1200 syrians and none of them have had to be returned. >> and the american people are questioning that, and many of them showing that they do not support accepting more refugees into the united states. 43% support. 51%, a majority oppose. that's from the latest quinnipiac poll. >> but, you know something megyn? excuse me, megyn, you know
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having me on. >> what is it that you analyzed 1,000 near-death experiences. what did you find? >> well, it's fascinating because, you know, the hope that is christmas, that we look for in christmas, i believe really god's greate esest gift that hee at christmas was the hope of heaven. what i found was really hard-hitting evidence that this hope is real, that it's not just a pipe dream. there is something coming after this where finally there really will be peace and the joy that, you know, that we hear promised but gosh, we look around the world and there isn't much. >> from talking to these people, what do they say that heaven looks like? >> well, so what i do is i put together the commonalities and show how it really reveals the heaven in the bible. but they talk about it in very pragmatic terms. like they talk about how alive they feel. not just with five senses but
with more like with 50 senses. and they say when they come back to this earth, it feels like that's the real life and this one's more like a shadow. they experience beauty, flowers and trees and mountains and grass, but really like of another dimension. >> john, your story's such an important one. i'm sorry, i just want to get your story in here. because you weren't always a believer. you didn't always believe in god, you weren't always christian. >> yeah, i was skeptical. >> that happened at a moment in your life. then you've taken this all on. and you have amazing words for those who do suffer grief during the holiday season because it is difficult for a lot of people who miss loved one who have passed. your advice to them? >> yeah, i was an engineer, i was skeptical of all this. what i saw through this is really hard-hitting evidence that life continues on. in fact, another commonality is this great reunion that people experience. my mom passed away this year,
and you know when you're missing loved ones and the holidays, the real hope is that we're going to be united again, that there is hope for that. that's god's promise of christmas, hope for life eternally for all who want it. >> pastor john burke, thank you for joining us tonight. and merry christmas to you. >> merry christmas. ♪ no matter where you look, you won't find another small commercial van that can fit more, carry more weight, and yet go farther on a tank of gas than the ram promaster city. hurry in to your ram dealer for details on all current incentives.
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