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they know like ron burgundy i will put whatever they put in that teleprompter. that's it for us in washington. i'm ed henry. bret baier is back on monday. "on the record" is next and. happy new year. ♪ >> how stupid are our leaders? >> it's time to declare the end of lowered expectations. are thesepid politicians? >> politicians do what is w politically expedient. >> i want to do what's right. >> politicians are all talk, no action. >> our founders political class. >> i can name lot of people in politics who have been there all their lives and you probably want want them to polish your shoes. >> the only way to reimagine our government is to reimagine who is leading it. >> i'm not a politician. i don't want to be a politician. >> we need a leader that wrote the art of the deal. >> time for citizen to stand up to the political class.
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>> are you wade e -- ready for an outside center is america ready for an outers? plea political speeders are fight tollingber you president. donald trump, carly fiorina, and ben carson. and tonight, you'll hear from all three. but who are these outsiders? we start with the front-runner, donald trump. >> we need a leader that wrote the art of the deal. >> you know him as the donald, and there's a chance he may be your next president. >> i'm really rich. >> 1968, donald j. trump graduates from wharton's school and starts working at his father's real estate business and moves the company to manhattan and turned the trump organization into a global
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brand. >> i'm donald trump and i have properties all over the place. >> the donald is new york's most well-known and controversial developer, making huge deals. the grand hyatt, trump tower, the atlantic city, new jersey, kinds, 1980. later, golf courses, hotels and buildings in new york and around the world in 1987, the donald pushing his book "the art of the deal. ." >> i like making deals. preferably big deals. that's how i i get my -- >> in 1990s total cries. a dechine to in the realization market and corporate bankruptcy but now his company survived but ready for the future. the donald, starring in the hit tv show "the aprepare tis" and we all remember this. >> don't like excuses. you're fired.
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>> and trump also making a name for himself in politics, sparking controversy by demanding a copy of president obama's long-form but certificate. >> i'm very honored to have gotten him to release his along- form birth circuit. >> -- certificate. >> and now running for president. >> i am officially running for president of the united states, and we are going to make our country great again. >> and the real estate mogul, regular guest on the record, here are some of his best moments. >> people are tired of being pushed around and being represented by incompetent politicians. you look at these politicians, they way they presenting us. >> what's your biggest disappoint. with president obama? >> well, just that the spirit.
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so many mistakes. we don't have victories anymore. we used to have victories all the tie. having victory after victory. we have nothing. when was the last time -- on trade, war, we can't beat isis, we can't beat anybody, iraq is a disaster, afghanistan with the hospital and you see what's going on with that, which such a tragedy, and everything we do is wrong. we're like the gang that couldn't shoot straight. we're just everything we do is wrong. and i say it. we don't have victories anymore. >> do you think -- is it ideology or personality or the fighting on capitol hill? >> maybe it's management? maybe it's lack of leadership. it's a lot of things. i think it's a lot of things rolled up into one, but it's just not the way it's supposed to be. we should be this great country that is a great leader in some many different ways, including economically, you look how some countries are taking advantage of us, taking our jobs, and you look at what happens with her military.
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we have this military that is strong in one way but another way we know it's getting weaker and weaker all the time. we don't have the general macarthurs and the general pattons. a watched one the top people saying it's tough to beat isis. i i'm saying, george patton wouldn't say that. macarthur wouldn't say that. it would go very quickly. it's just like we're in a different place. we're living in a different world from what we used to. we need victory and we don't have victory. >> you look at all of the things happening in this country, china ripping us off, japan ripping us a of, mexico taking advantage because their leaders are smarter than our leaders, and people are tired of it. they're tired of politicians, tired of incompetence, and tired of all talk, no action. and the people of new hampshire, the people of iowa, these are amazing people because i'm doing great in iowa, too, and they're amazing people. great people.
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they want to see our country be great again, and no politician is going to be able to do that. >> you're either a leader or not. you basically have that ability or don't, and we have a president that somehow doesn't seem very, very sadly -- i'd love if he was a great leader and doing a great job. frankly. i want to see the country be great. beyond parties and anything else. but it's not going to happen. and that's why i'm running for president. >> i know what i know. i'm a great jobs producer. everybody says i'll be the best leader in every poll. by far the best leader, and by far economically i'll be the best leader. >> what's your weakness? >> people think i'm not a nice person, and i actually am. i love people. i'm a nice person. some people think -- mary it's your fired but -- some people think i'm not a nice person. what i tell somebody that want knows wayne? can you be knizner i don't think this election will be won by a
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nice person. people want competence. we need really, smart, confident people. if we don't get that kind odd leader and leadership and particularly at the level of the president, this can you train is in big trouble. >> we have incompetent leadership, leaders that don't know anything got negotiating, getting killed by china, getting killed by mexico, getting killed by japan, and killed by saudi arabia makes a billion dollars a day and they -- if they have a problem, we go and defend saudi arabia and get nothing. we're a bunch of very foolishly led people. >> and of course, you cannot forget dr. ben carson. what an incredible story. >> i'm ben carson. i'm a candidate for president of the united states. >> one of the best neurosurgeons in the world and might even be your next president. >> we are one nation. under god.
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indivisible. with liberty and justice for all. >> hearts and stories starts in a broken him anyoner city detroit. his mother worked or two or three jobs to make ends meet. and when carson started doing poorly in school she had a solution. >> turning all the tooth and make is read reports and submit to her written book reports but she couldn't read. but it didn't matter because it worked. >> he attended yale and medical school, revolutionizing his field. completing surgeries once thought impossible. including separating conjoin entwines. >> i'm the only one that separates siamese twins. the only one to operate on babies still in the mother's woman. the only one to take out have a
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brain. >> and of course, dr. carson jumping into the political spotlight the national prayer black fest in 2013. >> our national debt, $16.5 trillion. >> today, he is one of the political outsiders who wants to be president. >> we are going to change the government into something that looks more like a well-run business than a behemoth of inefficiency. >> and neurosurgeon carson, surging in the polls and going on the record. >> you come to this race with a background that is much different than anybody else, as a doctor. how do you make a case that's a relevant background for the voters? >> well, you know, our government was designed with the citizen in mind, and the citizen -- citizen statesman,
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not the lifetime politician. and i believe that i've had a lot of experiences in life that many of the politics have not had, including living at every socioeconomic level. being appointed at a young age, director of pediatric surgery as hopkins which wasn't on the map and building the program to the point where in 2008 "u.s. news & world report" ranked it number one in the nation. of sitting on corporate boards, 18 years on kellogg's, 16 on costco, chairman of the board of a biotech company, starting a national scholarship program, active in all 50 states which has won major national waiters only given to one organization in the country. these are our accomplishments that i think many people in the political realm have not had but i think are all -- incredibly relevant. what is most relevant is the
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ability to solve complex problems and work with others, to use that synergy in order to solve those problems. we have amazingly talented people in this country, and the wisest man who if lived, solomon, said in the multitude of counselors is safety and shouldn't be people that agree with you on everything. >> in your book you talk about the press and say, in part, we the majority of members of the press eye line themselves with the interests of the american people and reject partisan politics and manipulation. what do you mean? >> what we have now is a press that picks sides. we have some press on the right, most of the press on the left, and they have an agenda and specifically go out and try to push that agenda, and if there are people that they oppose, they will distort stories and
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emphasize the wrong kinds of things to move the opinion in their direction. that was not their purpose. their purpose was to keep the american people informed, so that can make good rational decisions, and what they need to recognize is that they contribute to the downfall of this nation. they're going to go down with the nation, too. so they should be looking for ways we 'uplift the nation. >> and donald trump, well, not the only business leader rung for -- running for office. >> the only -- reimagine our government is to reacknowledge who is leading it. >> meet carly fiorina, former fortune 100 ceo, former candidate for u.s. senate and now running to be your next president. >> i'm carly fiorina and i'm rounding for president. >> how decide she rise to the top? started as a law school drop you her father said she would never make it but he was wrong. at first she started as a
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receptionist, then teaching english, then a sales rep for at&t, and at at&t, fiorina shined. running entire departments by age 35 and meeting her future husband who told her she would run the company so some day. he was almost right in 1999, while running lucent technology, she got a call from hewlett-packard. they wanted her to ceo the first woman to run a fortune 50 country. >> if you can dream it, you can do it. >> in hp she streamlined operations and saw themer jeff with compaq, the biggest merger in history. >> we believe he have suffered sufficient votes to approve hp's merger with compaq. >> but the move quitely criticized in 2005 she was fired by hp. >> i have never hidden the fact i whereas fired from hewlett packard in a boardroom ball.
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when you lead, when you challenge the status quo, you make him ins. >> soon after carly surviving a bout with cancer and then rung for a seat in the u.s. senator against barbara boxer. >> after chemotherapy, for bra boxer is not scary. >> but being a political outsider set the stage today. >> ours was built to be a citizen government so citizens, let's take it back. >> former hewlett-packard ceo going on the record. >> nice to see you. >> great to be with you. thank you for having me. >> so what do you think is the reason that the outsiders in this whole political contest, in the g.o.p., which includes you, donald trump, and dr. ben carson -- why are the three of you doing so well? number of you is a politician.
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>> because 75% of the american people now think the federal government is corrupt, because 82% of the american people now think we have a professional political class that is more concerned with the preservation of its own power, position and privilege, than on getting the people's work done because people are angry and frustrated with festering problems that never get resolved. whatever your issue, whatever your cause, wblem you hope will be resolved by now the political class failed you. >> do you see this as almost like the tea party movement? the tea part movement was a lot of people who are sick and tired of washington, people not particularly involved in politics and although it didn't get a lot of steam and eventually sort of faded out, it was the people who were unhappy with the political clats. is this the same group and more? >> i think it's some of the same group and more because if you think about those numbers, 75%, 82%. that means it's republicans,
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independents, democrats, young and old, men and women, people of all ethnicities, it's the vast majority of the american people. i have a lot of republicans show up at my events of course, but i have democrats and independents as well. it's not partisan to say we actually need to secure our border. it's not partisan to say we need to reform our veterans administration. it's not partisan to say, government truly has become so crushing so inept. they don't do anything well. >> but all those things you name require legislation, unless you do it by executive order, but require legislation which requires relationships something that president obama has been criticizing for not having or have nothing interest with either republican or democrats the lead to outsiders don't have that legislative experience. how too you convince the voters you can do it? >> well, first, relationships can be built. they need to be invested in.
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and i certainly would invest in those relationships, but honestly speaking, think it's less legislative experience and more understanding what to do. what actually do you have to do to get a bureaucracy to move and different down to size, and i think this involves channeling, harnishing, leveraging the anger and frustration of the american people. i ill will use technology to -- take out your smartphone, people, fellow citizen do you think you ought to know where your money is being spent, press one for yes, 2 nor no. a good leader can channel the anger and frustration to force anger and frustration to force the political process to move you totaled your brand new car.
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until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on. >> well, what are the other outsiders doing to change
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the race? the special "on the record" political panel is here. steve diamond and "u.s. news and world report" david catanese. donald trump says he wants to temporarily ban the muslims from coming into the united states. how much does that shake up the race for the g.o.p.? >> oh, substantially. i mean, you have seen -- you have seen the amount of push back from other folks and you have also seen republican voters, you know, they -- 65% love did. there is a lot of support for, this not necessarily even for the details but just for the -- maybe the guts or the hutzpah to say something like that. look, voters, i sort of have a theory that a lot of the trump supporters are not even listening to what trump is saying you anymore. they are looking to people who oppose donald trump. they dislike those people who oppose donald trump so they figure trump is their guy. that's the real outsider effect on this race. >> what kind of challenge for the g.o.p. -- the establishment, the rnc? >> well, i think they have to figure out if they are going to get behind one candidate to stop him. i mean, this has been
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consistent for five months and all the political insiders in washington, d.c. this will end, it was summer of silliness. then it went into the fall. it hasn't changed. if you look at trump and put together his number with ted cruz and then even ben carson, they are two thirds of who republicans are supporting. it's about a third. this has been what is opposite of previous republican primary electorate. usually the establishment has 50 plus one. the question is we will know in a month now, is it the antiestablishment that has that 50 plus one. >> has been carly fiorina. is she shaking it up anyway. she slipped in the polls recently. how does she get traction? >> i don't know. there is the opening that was there for her it seems to have slipped away. you know, so is much of this is driven by donald trump and the folks looking for a trump-light which is what ted cruz is counting on with
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a lot of his positioning and whatnot. i agree with david completely there really have a question about whether there is an opening for any establishment candidate to first of all unify folks and second of all whether there is an opening to take up enough of the oxygen and enough of the voters to be relevant at all come february and march. >> if you want an outsider but for some reason you don't like the bluster or the, know, whatever comes with donald trump, he is too confident or whatever it is, dr. ben carson, is that your outsider guy? >> well, because when the campaign moved to focus on national security and foreign policy particular after paris and the shooting in california, he has had some problems. i have spent some time on the trail with him. he was trying to do all national security forums but you could sense that he didn't have the grasp of the issue that a lot of others have. a lot of them are going to cruz. if you don't like trump maybe you settle in can w.
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cruz. the consternation of a lot of republicans. trump makes cruz look very reasonable to what many think cruz is still out there far on the right. but because he speaks it a little more tempered way. he doesn't go as far as trump. is he lot of where these conservative republicans are ending up. >> why didn't they go to governor christie? why would they go to senator ted cruz to donald trump? it doesn't seem right now anyone is leaving trump. trump is leading. to the extent if you don't like donald trump, why would you not go to governor christie over senator ted cruz? >> there are two things in christie's record that are still hurting with conservatives. the first was was it a hug or not a hug. >> can i say we looked back and looked at the tape and right before the election i will say this again, i looked at the tape, i thought in my mind i saw a hug. we went to the tape. we didn't see a hug in that confrontation meeting right before the election. anyway, everybody is going to be mad at me about that. >> about hurricane sandy and government funding and that became a major issue and major republican for
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republicans over on capitol hill. evidence was seen a guy who was stabbing republicans in the back at a critical time for them. more than that, i think the other issue is there is maybe a better candidate, somebody who folks thought would be the unifying candidate and still has the chance to be that. that's marco rubio. is he certainly looking like he is trying to be the establishment to get the establishment folks who are going to three from other establishment candace when when -- candidates when they drop ow he was the initial tea party candidate. there is a chance he can recapture that unifying message. >> 30 seconds left. carly fiorina says she is going to use technology to fight national security. that's one of the new things we hear from any of these candidates. >> that's new but the other problem is it's hard to break through when you still got this many candidates into the race. and i would go back to marco rubio and a the fact that he is probably the best bridge candidate for the establishment to get behind. the question is how many candidates are still on the ballot when people vote in iowa and new hampshire? >> panel, thank you. and donald trump, carly fiorina and dr. ben carson
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live from america's news headquarters i'm patricia stark. happy new year. president obama is ticking off his final year in office by taking aim at gun violence. in his weekly media address today mr. obama says he will meet with his attorney general on monday to discuss what he describes as a national epidemic. he may take executive action
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to stop it. the president says he wants to keep guns out of the hands of what he he calls, quote, the dangerous few. that might lead to stronger background checks on gun buyers. tributes are pouring in for natalie cole, she died yesterday at the age of 56 in los angeles. tony bennett says it was an honor to perform with her. aretha franklin calls cole one of the biggest. she underwent kidney transplant and was the daughter of nat king cole. back to "on the record" special political outsiders. for all your headlines log on to foxnews.com. >> political outsiders like donaldd trump, carly fiorina and dr. ben carson must be doing something right as their popularity continues. what county other more established candidates do to tap into that slider support? how are they addressing outsiders like donald trump and dr. ben carson taking the lead in polls?
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>> trump fancy himself a very good negotiator. and i accept that he has done a lot of good deals. so mr. trump ought to knowon that we should not speak to people from a position of weakness. >> we all know you can't a pick them up and ship themea across -- back across the border. it's a silly argument. it's not an adult argument. it makes nooit sense. >> all i can say is you're lucky in ohio that you struck oil. that's the one thing. very no problem with being vetted. a problem ave with is being lied about. >> a couple days of being asked about something when you put in your book i have got to tell you i don't have a whole lot of sympathy. >> ronald reagan walked away, he quit talking when it was time to quit talking. >> you can i finish. >> why does she keep interrupting everybody? >> we can't continue to be the policemen of the world. >> donald is wrong on this. he islute absolutely wrong on this. we are not going to be the
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world's policemen. we sure the heck better be the world's leader. >> joining me the speaker former speaker of the house newt gingrich and weekend co-host tucker carlson. how do the insiders pull off some of the voters tap intohe that. >> two things. one is they have to present a compelling vision of a better future and get people to say gee, i like thatt person and makes sense. they. are still all on a relatively level playing field in terms of communicating. second, they have to find policy disagreements that are real and to draw a i you think unless they dot that, you are going to end up with somebody who has never been pushed very hard. i'm watching it all tighten up and my hunch is you are going to see a number of people starting with marco rubio and ted cruz who are prepared to take on the frontrunners. >>, you know, tucker, it seems to me the outsiders have a huge advantage. they don't have a bad record to run on. people are so dissatisfied with washington.
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you know, so how does the insider try to get around that? >> it's tough because a lot of theses guys don't have day jobs so they can say whatever they want. that's the basic role of an outsider to me is to tell the obvious truths thatru everyone knows but not going to say because they are polite. the war in iraq probably a mistake. hedge hedge fund guys get paid too much. trump lines that no one - would outer. >> why not? >> they are constituencies youstit offend. past votes you took that you don't want to have to t compare against your current position. there are all sorts of reasons but people from the outside can just say it and it's thrilling to watch that. >> you know, mr. speaker donald trump refers to himself as a the negotiator is that a good sort of a good mantra? >> o i think it's a pretty good mantra from the standpoint, most americans, particular loip the look on the right. things don't get done. next policy paper doesn't have any impact because they don't believe it they don't think it's going to happen.
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what trump is saying is i represent are the shear force of my personality and i will blow past the current structures and for real changes and then second in foreign policy, whether it's building a fence with co-orng it's negotiating with the chinese, is he making the case that he would just be a much tougher person and, of course, his whole style is bravado. he tries very harde and succeeds at looking like he is tough and energetic and he is physically big. and those are all advantages if you want to be tough and energetic. >> it's interesting, the pundits have got continue wrong whether the outsiders are going to stay. who is going to stay for how long. no one thought donald trump would be here. people dr. carson and carly fiorina. >> couple candidates took these candidates seriously. >>y -- i'm talking about the journalists. >> people in washington are completely threatened by outsiders because they literally exist to threaten
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the power of the people in charge which includes the media in washington. i think smart people look at someone like donald trump and flip it around and look at people supporting him. what are the messages voters are trying to send when they back someone like trump or fiorina or carson. not so much about the candidates but the electorate. the smart politician will listen to them and dumb ones and bunch of them on the stage. actor on the stage, actor, going away. those people will lose. >> he has stayed up on top first or second almost every poll for a long time. >> one of the most popular democrats in california pat brown, incumbent governor who wanted ronald reagan to become the republican nominee because reagan had made movies with the championships. whereas chimpanzee. reagan beat him by a million votes. >> the message is what? >> if you are a competent and you learn the business and you are an outsider, you can in fact crush
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traditional politicians. >> i believe did you that at one point. >> the people are so unhappy with the way things are going in washington. it's really anybody but. >> they should be. you know, the defense department and the veterans administration spend a billion $300 million to be able to transfer records for veterans and then close it because they can't figure out how to do it. a billion 300 million. a person sitting out there going and what else did they waste money on. >> do it for half the price. >> the economy is the real problem. very good at producing a small number of high paying jobs. there aren't a lot of real middle class jobs being produced. no wonder there is social turmoil. tucker thank you both. >>5% o nearly 25% of the population are millennials how do the political outsiders not insiders but outsiders grab that important vote. millennial voters who have gone "on the record" before are back and that's next.
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there are more than 80 million millennials in the united states, so any candidate who wants to win the white house is going to need the millennial vote. so which candidates are striking a cord with the younger generation and which ones are turning off millennials. the "on the record" political panel is back. we spoke to them over the summer. they had chosen their favorites. we wonder if they had changed their mind. you started off with carly fiorina in the beginning. now these many months later. several debates later you are not a carly fiorina fan anymore, are you? >> i'm not. i'm on donald trump's team now. >> why? >> i just kept hearing the same talking points over andnt over from carlie and i started to pay more attention to trump and his platform and his success and i just feel like the big issues for millennials are going to be the economy and i feel like trump definitely represents strength when it comes to that. >> he wants to deport everybody who is here
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illegally. are you for that or against that? >> i am in a way. i mean, the millennial generation is most diverse in american history so i definitely think that tough of a stance is going to be a tough sell. so i'm reserved on that. i'm still waiting to hear more detail of his plan to decide if that's actually a good idea for the economy. >> akash you were a marco rubio fan at the beginning. and you you have remained with marco rubio. are you still marco rubio? >> absolutely. i'm staying with marco. >> why? >> what senator rubio has been able to do is tap into a narrative that touches with a lot of american lives. he has come from middle class himself and he knows how to connect with those voters. he is trying to get everyoners. behind this this
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when he was -- as he has been in the u.s. senate or are these promises he is making to you and millenials? what did he do in the u.s. senate that is so convincing that as president he would do this. >> the image he is trying to bring and positives in the senate. he admits he made a few mistakes and that's a symbol of growth, and what he is planning for the future isn't necessarily imbedded on false promises but the way he sees things. i think he is fed up in the senate and fed up with the -- >> a lot of people are fed up. apparently you think he can go to the white house and make the chengs. >> think so. >> appearingly, you started out with for jeb bush, fiorina where are you now? >> definitely still with carly fiorina but what i really want to see is a carly fiorina and marco rubio ticket. >> who is the top? >> oh, man. i think carly is still on top
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but we can work on the order later. those are he two who i think want to win the white house and could do a really fantastic job because you have this blend of public sector with marco and private sector with carly and insider-outsider. i think that strikes the right tone and strikes the right chord. change in washington while incorporating experience. >> how about her performsan hat -- hewlett-packard. she says she made tough calls. >> she made tough calls and it's unfortunate that it had to play out that way. for tens of thousands of people, that's not something anyone should take lightly, but what i do strongly believe is that carly was leading at a time where it was very tough time to be in the tech industry, and you could say she cut all of these
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tens of thousands of jobs. how many tens of thousands more did she save by making hewlett-packard a little bit leaner and meaner. >> round robin. whether your friend are for the outsiders or insiders. sal? >> definite outsiders. i hear a lot of trump and a lot of carson. >> most my friends going for insider. >> why. >> just something about the level of experience and the know-how, and they have -- seem to have more specific grip on policy, and i think that a lot of the millenials are concern about that. >> angela, your friends, insiders or outsiders. >> i'm in a tough spot because a lot of my friends are democrats about my conservative and libertarian friend are leaning to insiders. >> thank you to our millenial panel. and in 2012 the political outsiders were the tea party
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a look at the 2016 political outsiders continues. beginning in 2009, that's when the tea party tapped into voters who were fed up with washington and the direction the country was headed. now we're in the 2016 election. what do donald trump, carly fiorina, and dr. ben carson have to do to get the tea-party backing 2016. herman cain goes on record. nice to see you, sir. >> happy to be here. >> tell me, is the people who are supporting the outsider
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candidates now -- which would be carson, fiorina, and trump -- are they the tea party or more than the tea party? who are these people that support the outsiders? >> i think they're the tea party and more. you often hear about the old political model talk about 40% of the voters are going to vote democrat no matter what, 40% are voting republican no matter what, then you have those that are 20's in the middle or independent or whatever. here's an element i believe these outsiders are attracting, people who have never voted before. i have received many calls from listeners who said they've never voted before because they were turned off and felled disenfranchised. so i happen to believe these three outsiders as you're calling them, they're attracting from both parties, from the middle and taking people that never voted before. >> do you find the way they deliver their campaign information different? when i listen to them, the more
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professional, politicians are more careful and the nonpolitician are blunter and more plain speaking, and no one more than donald trump. >> right. they are able to talk nonpolitical speak. that ills what sets them apart. also, the three that you have identified in your special, which i think that you have done a great job -- they are talking solutions. they are getting to the heart of the matter. and that is what is connecting people across the spectrum. one other thing. people attracted to these three candidates you have been highlighting, they don't care about labels. they don't care about who said, she said, he said, when they said it. they care about someone that sounds as if, number one, they're passionate about leading and passionate about fixing some stuff in washington, dc. >> all right. carly fiorina business woman, donald trump, businessman.
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you're a businessman. when you in business you can fire people. going to washington is different. is there some worry that this blunt talk is going to be very difficult to deliver if elected. >> i don't think sew some here's why. if i had gotten there my plan would be, always engage the support of the american people as you are trying to negotiate with congress to get done what needs to be done. carly fiorina said it best. one that politicians and people in office respond is to pressure. so i happen to think the president can build that pressure on any given issue that is right, connect with the american people and the american people can put pressure on those responsible for passing the las. that's how a nonpolitician can build the consensus and get things done. >> mr. herman cain, hope you come back. >> i'll bet right here. >> and coming up.
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then there is former hewlett packard ceo carly fiorina taking her business leadership experience to the political arena. and finally world renowned pediatric surgeon dr. ben carson trying to cure what many voters seem to think ails washington. can can an outsider win the nomination? no one knows but buckle up. this is going to be a wild campaign season ride.
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stay tuned. thanks for being with us for this special edition of "on the record." tell me what you think about the outsiders and all the candidates on my facebook page. and i will see you back here each week night for "on the record." ♪ ♪

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