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jenna: and we'll see you back here in an hour. jon: "outnumbered" starts now. andrea: all right, this is a fox news alert. you're looking at the dow jones industrial average, off triple digits again. this is the first trading week of the year, and we have seen continued selling in our markets following a global selloff. you're looking at the dow off 211 points, it's just below that 17,000 mark, it's a loss of one and a quarter percent. it had been down much more, nearly a 400-point drop is what we were just looking at a couple hours ago, so we're well off the lows. but, guys, right now at these levels you're still looking at a stock market that's down -- the dow, down 700 points just to kick off the first four trading
days of the year, a loss of 4%. this is the worst start to any year that we've seen for u.s. stocks since 1991. we'll keep you updated. sandra: and this is a fox news alert, bringing an accused terrorist to justice, and this one hitting close to home. right now an american charged with taking part in a truck bomb attack on a u.s. military base in afghanistan set to appear before a federal judge in new york city. this is "outnumbered." i'm sandra smith, here today harris faulkner, andrea tantaros, fox news contributor julie roginsky, and today's #oneluckyguy, he is the legendary, the one and only former nypd homicide detective bo dietl is on the couch today. >> oh, i'm so happy to be. sandra: and you're outnumbered. >> i love to be outnumbered like this. >> lovely tie.
>> thank you. >> it is. harris: and the shoes, those are gorgeous. purple shoes -- >> burgundy, like your dress. sandra: we're glad to have you here. the justice department saying 30-year-old muhammad al farouq turned his back on his country. the texas native, he's being charged with conspiring to murder fellow americans and conspiring to use a weapon of mass destruction against a u.s. base in afghanistan back in 2009. the indictment also alleges that al farouq went to pakistan and conspired to provide material support to al-qaeda. if convicts, he could spend the rest of his life in prison. rick leventhal is live from the federal courthouse in brooklyn. what is the latest from there, rick? >> reporter: well, al farouq is scheduled in court right now for his arraignment. we have a producer in the
courtroom, but it's unlikely he's going anywhere but back to his cell. this is a guy who's been kept in solitary confinement for 23 hours a day almost since he was caught last april. al farouq apparently became radicalized in college in canada when he left to join up with al-qaeda in pakistan nearly ten years ago, he told a friend he wouldn't hear from him again because he intended to become a martyr. his co-conspirators allegedly trained terrorists in that failed subway plot seven years ago, and al farouq is accused of using a vehicle-borne explosive device to try and murder u.s. troops. the indictment doesn't give details, but the ap reports it's likely that dual car bomb strike on forward operating base chapman near the pakistani border that killed one afghan and wounded six others. today's charges demonstrate that the patriotism and service of
our armed forces will never be forgotten, and we will make every effort to prosecute those who harm our armed forces to the full extent of the law. if convicted, he could spend the rest of his life behind bars. sandra: we'll bring everybody the latest on this story as it develops. thank you. meantime, disturbing new information about isis and just how advanced this terror group has become. our sister network sky news has obtained video footage from inside what it called a jihadi university in syria where scientists and weapons experts train aspiring terrorists in how to carry out sophisticated attacks, helping them to build bombs and weapons including heat-seeking warheads that can be used to attack passenger and military aircraft. they've also created remote-controlled cars meant to act as mobile bombs. the vehicles are fitted with mannequins that can produce heat to evade scanning machines that would otherwise detect the
threat of a driverless car. bo, this is clearly evidence, this is eight hours or so of video. it clearly shows how sophisticated and advanced they're getting as far as technology and the development of weapons. >> you know, i'm outraged when i watched this this morning. our cia has this information and probably had it for a long while. why in the heck are we not bombing that university? we know exactly where it is in raqqa, it's a certain part of that university. why aren't we taking that university and bring them to the 72 virgins now? i don't know how we're watching this. we're waiting for something -- now they're going to have heat-seeking missiles that can take down an airliner, so now we have a whole new range of weaponry that they're developing there. let's wipe 'em out already. instead of this president having executive action on gun control,
on this issue right now you have an executive action to go in there and take out this college. look, there's going to be ancillary damage, but we'll take out what they're teaching people right now. sandra: it's an old equestrian field in raqqa. they know exactly where this is. we haven't seen a huge response from the white house right now. julie: i don't know that we haven't taken them out. there is bombing going on in raqqa and syria. i don't know how old this video is. what's disturbing about me, actually, it's a small tidbit, but in one of the videos a man speaking in russian takes the camera through an area of explosives. there are people now traveling from places like chechnya or other parts of the former soviet union who are coming to train these people or in other ways are getting involved in the fight against us. and to me, this is very -- that, to me, is incredibly troubling, because it means this war has
expanded beyond just the middle east and is now attracting like-minded supporters from places like the former soviet union. you know, that is something while vladimir putin's very busy trying to prop up assad, his own countrymen are fighting on behalf of isis. that's something to consider. >> i wrote an op-ed page for the washington times and also the new york daily news picked it up on islam phobia. it's not a country that we're dealing with. it's not isis. it's not al-qaeda. it is not a country. what it is, is radical islam, and that's what it is. when the bomber, when the two bombers in boston, they weren't answering to anyone. they were doing this for radical islam. what happened in san bernardino, we don't have them directly linked to isis. we have to realize we have a real problem, and people don't want to use the word islamo jr. phobia. if we don't react, you know
what's going to happen? 9/11. i remember, i was there. this is coming. and it can come from somebody who's home grown here. so we have to try to destroy this value that's coming across the internet and try to destroy the fact that we're the best friend to the muslim countries in the middle east. sandra: for now, bo, this tells us so much about what's happening, though, and it does give us an inside look at their technology and their weaponry. the free syrian army passed this material along, we're told, to sky news. they weren't aware of the importance of the video, they said, but it was described by a weapons adviser, harris, to the british military as an intelligence gold mine. harris: yeah. you know, reports by time and the financial times, "time" magazine is that isis is making $80 million in revenue a month, and now we know how they're spending it. and they're not doing it necessarily by just donations. most of it is revenue brought in through its oil sales. now, we are able to destroy some of their oil revenue, i mean, some of their capability, i should say, but not enough of
it. plus they're kidnapping, everything else. but what i think is really telling about portion of our coverage is the fact that we spend hundreds of millions of dollars training, what, a handful of people? why are they so much better at it than we are? why are they so much better at training and getting ready for the coming war, a war that they're waging? >> we're in it. we're in the war right now. harris: we're in the middle of it, but why are they able to train hundreds and hundreds and thousands, and we spend hundreds and hundreds of millions -- [inaudible conversations] andrea: the reason the obama administration does not want to talk about this issue is because it lies directly, squarely at their feet. the weaponry that we're discussing today is no shock to to the u.s. military. they've known about this for a long time. bo's right. how did isis get it? let's trace the history of this. when we rapidly pulled out of iraq, we left $1 billion worth of our technology, this technology; thermal, heat-seeking, everything you talked about, night vision.
and isis has it now. sandra: driverless vehicles. andrea: the u.s. military is working to get it back and, three -- and this is a little unknown fact -- the u.s. state department, susan rice, john kerry and formerly hillary clinton, has exported this technology to our supposed, and i'm using air quotes, you can't see it, allies, other countries that want these kinds of technologies. >> that's what donald trump -- andrea: hold on, bo. and, julie, to your point, russia is also a big driver of this. they are exporting these very high technologies -- >> absolutely. andrea: -- groups that we consider to be allies with the rise of capitalism in russia, and it's ending up in the hands of terrorists -- harris: but if we won't go in on the ground and we are going to depend on everybody in that region to do it for us, why is it we can't seem the train enough and fast enough -- julie: can i answer that question? because they know who's on their side. and the problem is, to andrea's point, we don't know who's on our side.
we don't know who to train. it is impossible to find good guys in this haystack. it is like looking for a needle -- andrea: your point, julie, five freedom fighters -- julie: yep. andrew: -- for the cost of $500 million. julie: absolutely. andrea: why isn't anybody putting pressure on the administration to -- harris: well, not just explain it, change it. i don't even care about the explanation anymore. just change it, make it work. andrea: we are giving them the technology. the united states of america is handing isis the technology. harris: so, bo, do you think people would get behind that though? >> that's why donald trump is so appealing to everyone for the fact he's going to go and get it done like he got the golf course continued out there in the bronx. whatever he's got to do, he gets it done. he'll bring keane back. general keane would be a great defense secretary, and we'll take care of these people. we need this country to get straight, and donald trump -- i didn't come on to pump up trump, but he's the man who'll make it happen.
sandra: not everybody knew this weaponry exists. i mean, we have heard already from members of special forces bomb technicians who say they're shocked at what this video -- >> i'm not shocked. andrea: they're not shocked even a little bit. sandra: all right. well, the investigation continues into benghazi, the terrorly attacks that -- terror attacks that killed four americans as democrats call the probe a charade and republicans say the obama administration is stonewalling them. who is right? and how all of this could play out for hillary clinton. and now thanks to a petition, the white house is going to have to respond to the steven avery case. he is the wisconsin native at the center of the netflix series "making a murderer." what the president may say and whether it's a bad idea to go around the judicial system. and right after the show catch more right here from the couch on the web, join us for outnumbered overtime by logging on to foxnews.com/outnumbered. click on the overtime tab, tell us what topic you want to hear
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americans. david petraeus was questioned behind closed doors for four hours yesterday. democrats say that his testimony was consistent with what he told investigators more than two years ago, and they say that the committee is wasting time and money. >> and so the charade continues. i see it as a partisan effort and a drawn-out partisan effort where we have now spent more than $5.5 million and counting. i think that this is being dragged out to get it as close to the election process as possible, and that's very, very unfortunate. andrea: but the chairman of that committee, south carolina congressman trey gowdy, disagrees. here he is earlier. >> not only was it constructive, it's constructive enough that we're going to talk to him again. he's a unique witness. the place that he helped me the most yesterday is this notion of whether or not we had assets that could have impacted what
happened in benghazi, and if we did not have assets in the region -- and this is a really important question, bill -- why did we not have assets? andrea: well, the committee will hear from former defense secretary leon panetta tomorrow. harris, does this change anything with petraeus? i mean, these are classified briefings, and i know that democrats are not cooperating, they're alleging that this is partisan, but this is the first time they've actually gotten to speak to someone like petraeus. he's been mysteriously silent for a long time. harris: republicans aren't withholding any documents. i'm really confused by this. >> i think he was indicted, and if it was my client, i wouldn't let him talk anywhere if he was indicted. now he was able to get some sort of conditions, and that's why it's so late for him to come on. harris: yeah, but just in terms of stalling, and wanting to stall, according to the accusation, all the way to the election, how does that benefit anybody? if the question is what happened
and if the answer is to give answers and some closure to the families, drawing it out doesn't do anybody any good. so why would republicans even do that? it's not even long call. i don't understand why that accusation ising with made. julie: but petraeus has already spoken to them. he spoke to them two years ago and they said, essentially -- the democrats -- yesterday was consistent with what he said two years ago. so now we're rehashing the same testimony. look, here's the problem for, i think, republicans with men gaz city. people who think hillary clinton did something wrong will think it regardless, people who think this is a political witch hunt will think it's a political witch hunt regardless. everybody else is over it -- harris: everybody else is over it? sandra: how about the families of the victims? julie: i'm talking from a political perspective. sandra: anyone who says the republicans are wasting time and money to continue to pursue this investigation, they don't have a heart.
the victims' families feel that they have not gotten their questions answered, and there's still a lot outstanding. andrea: and to that point, the victims' families -- specifically ty woods' family as recently as this week -- have said come and take a lie detector test. hillary clinton looked those victims' families in the eyes and said a video caused the death of their family. the families are not okay with this -- julie: i understand that. andrea: who gave the standdown order? julie: there was no standdown order, there's no evidence there was ever a standdown order. where's the evidence? >> these families lost their loved ones, but to me, the real smoking gun is these texting things where you've got ubs settling the money thing in switzerland, all of a sudden bill clinton getting a million and a half dollars to do a little speech. these are smoking guns. julie: what does that have to do with benghazi? >> we want hillary clinton. let's get her where we got her.
julie: excuse excuse me, that'sy my point. these families don't deserve politicization -- andrea: so you do agree there are answers that need to be addressed. julie: the families of benghazi heard her testify for 13 hours. they're not satisfied with it -- harris: are you satisfied? julie: honestly, at this point i don't even understand what the issue is. there were people claiming there was a standdown order, there's no evidence -- andrea: how do you know? julie: how do i disprove a negative? andrea: julie, she looked those families in the eye -- julie: i'm not suggesting -- andrea: and if it is, it would be classified. hillary clinton and leon panetta told the president that night that they got this, they had it handled. to me, the standdown order was given when hillary clinton went to sleep that evening. julie: what standdown order? >> the e-mails come back again. we want to see those e-mails. andrea: why did they not show up, julie? doesn't that bother you, why the united states of america didn't show up?
julie: didn't show up to where, benghazi? andrea: yes. julie: my understanding is this all went down, it was a horrible operation. short of that, there's some implication that hillary clinton specifically told the military, the state department and our diplomats and the cia, we want these people to die. sandra: but didn't she mislead the american people immediately following? julie: yes, when she talked about the videos. sandra: why does it surprise you that people still feel like they're not getting the right story? julie: until hillary clinton drops out of this race and says i'm not running for president, guarantee you nobody would be concerned -- >> no, no, i'll be concerned about the money being funneled into the clinton initiative for doing things around this world -- julie: but, bo, you're just proving my point. >> she's a liar, and anything she says you don't believe. julie: these families deserve answers, and you're talking about ubs. >> because i'm talking about her lying is, it's just her way, and we have to realize that.
that's why families don't believe her. julie: okay, but that's a different issue. andrea: there's still questions that need to be answered -- julie: no, no, no, that's not what i -- andrea: why did she lie about that video? what else is there? all right, hillary clinton again talking up her role as america's grandmother, saying in a brand new interview that she wants to make the world a better place for baby charlotte. will this help humanize hillary or come across as political pandering? plus, the gop candidates better brush up on their knowledge of foreign affairs, because global turmoil keeps shifting the focus of the race for the white house. who does this help or hurt the most? and we'll talk about it with beauty in blue sitting right across from me, next. ♪ ♪
week away from the first gop debate of the new year, and foreign policy is expected to take center stage as global affairs have shifted candidates' focus on the campaign trail. that change accelerated by north korea's claim yesterday that it successfully tested a hydrogen bomb, raiding the stakes with an -- raising the stakes with an unpredictable regime. in the middle east, we're also seeing escalating tensions between iran and saudi arabia as they ratchet up their rivalry. and, of course, there's the ongoing battle against isis, a growing danger especially in light of the paris terror attacks and the san bernardino massacre. one of the debate moderators is sitting across from me, sandra smith. i'm really excited this is going to focus on foreign policy, because it is the issue that's most important right now to americans. and, sandra, what you see -- and i know you know this already -- but there's a huge fault line in the republican party as far as foreign policy goes, and that is expected to be center stage in both debates. sandra: we've got a huge government jobs report coming out tomorrow morning, the state
of the union address tuesday night, the debate's thursday night, just weeks before the iowa caucuses. i mean, what an, such an important and amazing time and moment in our history with everything that's going on, may i say the world is burning, and we're going to have to ask these presidential candidates what is america's role in the world today? harris: yeah. sandra: with things changing so fast. harris: the state of the union is really key, because i really would love to know, just be a fly on the wall as they're writing that speech ahead of time for the president, what is our state in the world according to him? he's now, for the next 379 days, i believe that's right, going to have to make some decisions that we have to live with for a long time. hoping not too many of them will be by executive action or order. so that the timing of this debate also gives everybody an opportunity to say not only what they would do, but what they wouldn't do. and we already know that, of course, republicans get the rebuttal after the state of the union. they almost get to give that
beforehand, you can almost guess what the president is going to say. >> it's just funny with this tinderbox with saudi arabia, i've been to saudi arabia two dozen times. i'm very familiar, after they threw our air bases out of there after we saved them from saddam hussein, our reward was get out of saudi arabia. now all of a sudden they're dealing with iran and sunni/shiite issue. that could be explosive anytime. what has happened in yemen now, they've attacked yemen. we haul know that the -- all know that the shiites out of iran is one for some reason this president favors very much over the sunnis, for some reason. maybe his chief of staff has a little bit of that shiite background, i don't know. i don't know for a fact. but my point is that, and then when we voted for iran to give them $150 billion worth of these holdback monies, this is really, really exploding. people don't realize how serious it is. america has to get involved with
the middle east because it's coming here. we've got to do something, man. andrea: well, that's kind of the problem, julie. we are involved in the middle east a little too much, and we're on both sides of this. we are aiding the sunnis and the shia on this. i don't think obama favors one other -- over the other, he's given millions of dollars to iran, but he's also given millions of dollars to the saudis and essentially created a nuclear arms race in the middle east which has spurred the saudis to accelerate this fight for the battle -- julie: and, you know, we keep talking about this our allies, the saudis, our allies? >> yeah, or threw us out. julie: you want to see isis as an action of the government, who's beheading people? >> they did 60 people. julie: the saudis, our friends. there are no good actors in the middle east. >> i agree with you 100%. i was there when he took a hundred heads off about -- julie: fine. to andrea, i think
you and i agree on this, there are no good actors in the middle east. >> no. julie: it's situational. who's our friend today? it's not going to be our friend tomorrow. andrea: we already have picked sides, we're on both. and the first republican debate of the 2016 year is coming up next week, maria bartiromo and neil cavuto will take the reins for the later debate, thursday, january 14th, on fbn. do not miss it. harris: and more politics now as hillary clinton goes full grandma. sounds like a yoga move. [laughter] playing that card again, this time for a prime time interview set to air next week on lifetime television according to people magazine. the democratic front runner tells the host she's running to make sure the world is okay for her 1-year-old granddaughter charlotte and another grand baby on the way. quote: you're so focused on just enjoying and marveling and
loving to the nth degree, but you also have perspective like, quote, oh, my gosh, i want to make sure that the world is okay and, you know, things are right, and we have to save the planet. end quote. actually, it's a double box card, because it's the woman card and the senior card, andrea. andrea: i don't know if this is the best possible message, but she keeps going back to the i'm a woman, i'm a grandmother. this has already backfired. she's spoken in front of a group of hispanics and said she was america's abuela, which is spanish for grandmother, and they didn't like it very much. they thought it was political pandering. what i think is strange, harris, is when she's in this back and forth over donald trump over who's a misogynist and trump keeps putting it back on her, this campaign is rolling out videos of the two of them in love and how they met. hillary and bill, i mean. harris: yeah. andrea: talking about their date nights, and i'm wondering with who, each other? harris: oh, now, wait a minute. andrea: come on!
[inaudible conversations] you don't believe this is the passionate love story of the ages? get out of here. julie: why can't we for once not be suspicious or cynical -- harris: because it's politics. julie: this woman has a granddaughter who she might happen to actually love? sandra: she made a personal choice to the stay with her husband, if she goes on date nights, good for her. hold on, bo, you've got a lot of time here. >> at trump's wedding, hillary comes running across the room, bo, i love ya. she's kissing me after what i said about her on imus. >> you think she listens to imus? sandra: i don't think she's going full grandmother. i would have no problem if a male candidate said this about his grandson or granddaughter. i think we all want a better world. i think she is trying to humanize herself, trying to personalize her message, and i cannot fault a presidential candidate for trying to do that. harris: the job of trying to
soften her, julie, we've talked about that on the couch, that this was something her political campaign decided they wanted to try to do, so maybe this was part of that. you've got don trump going after her and bill clinton on his nefarious past with women. does this open the door when you make it that personal and you bring it out into the open, does it then put it under the microscope to say, well, what else was going on in your love life? julie: do you notice that they haven't hit back at donald trump? they want trump to be the nominee. >> you want to know something? if you want hillary clinton, she was the worst secretary of state, if you want her to be the president, you vote for her for president. and this is to democrats too. look at what she's done. she's screwed up everything. so now you want her to be the president? harris: was he railroaded or was justice really served? the growing push to free the man at the center of a hit documentary series on netflix.
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♪ ♪ harris: the white house will now have to address the incarceration of a man named steven avery, a wisconsiner, at the center of the hit netflix series, "making a murderer." t a petition is asking president obama to pardon avery has reached 100,000 signatures, the minimum required for the white house to issue a response. but avery and his fierce supporters had better not hold their collective breath. president obama cannot grant airily a pardon, even -- avery even a pardon, and someone who could actually set him free, wisconsin governor scott walker
says he's not going to do that. avery was wrongfully convicted of rape in 1985, spent 18 years behind bars for that. two years after being freed, he and his nephew were arrested for murdering a photographer-journalist. the netflix doc lays out how they may have been set up by rogue police officers and prosecutors, but critics say the show glosses over or leaves out some incriminating evidence and sordid details about avery's past. all right, let's start out with we kno he had a lawsuit against -- we know he had a lawsuit against police officers. he did national interviews. we know he unjustly did time for rape, 18 years. okay, bring us to the fore. >> my daughter was into this documentary, she said, dad, you've got to watch this. you know, when you make a documentary, they did one about these drug-dealing cops there, and i saw that. and, you know, you slant it the way you want. we all know one thing, we all watched the o.j. case. i was a contributor on fox local
during that whole o.j. trial with all the evidence that came up to be, and then the negative side of it with the glove that didn't fit. all these aspects. you could bring out a lot of different evidential factors, and it could be then disputed. so, i mean, as far as i'm concerned, they're going to the president of the united states now for a pardon, you know, his executive orders, and i don't mean to bring something else up, but my big thing is where's your executive order with 22-30 military vets blowing their brains out every day? why doesn't he make an executive order that they can go to a mental hospital and get some help? it kills me inside knowing that 21, 22 men or women are going to die every day, and where's the executive order on that? you're talking about over 30,000 people are going to die, military people, over a year's time. and now we go back to this thing. lets, mr. president, let's start using some of your executive orders to help our military guys. i'm sorry for standing on a box
about it -- harris: you feel strongly about it. andrea, it's interesting to hear the politics of this. critics say, how can they expect the president to get involved? it hasn't always taken 100,000 signatures to get him to do it. andrea: that's right. a lot of people fired up about this. you mentioned the signatures. as you mentioned, this isn't the first time we've seen one of these series force investigate beers to go dive back in. we saw this with the jinx, we've had judge janine peer row who weighed in on this, and she participated in that documentary which, essentially, opened the case back up. how do you feel as a homicide detective when these types of things happen? it clearly looks like it's a good thing. >> you know what? das now when they have a murder case or something like that, they tell the jury ahead of time whatever you've seen on discovery id, on ncia and all that stuff on television, take that aside, because you're going to see something. the jury is going to ask i saw
on csi that they found this hair that they were able to evaluate. that's not what it's all about. you have to put all the pieces together, all the pieces together, and you have to build your case up with witnesses, how credible they are, and then all that evidence. it's a fine, fine-tuned thing, and you can look at both sides of it. like the blood from o.j., all of a sudden -- harris: [inaudible] >> they sid when they -- said when they tested it, the stuff that they tested could have contaminated. harris: part of the criticism about this, though, is twofold. there was blood evidence in this too. there was the salvage yard out back and the connection between avery and his family member and the fact that she had been over there, that there were some connections between these men and that woman. so there were lots of details. and the other thing, too, is netflix is a narrative that runs across -- it's a personal injury watch. you don't -- a binge watch. you don't just watch one and go away for a week and think about it. you've got all the narrative at
the same time. >> the biggest watched thing today, and people are focused on it, discover id, all those cases. and they can be slanted whatever way that producer or director wants to do it. and that's it. because you know what? it could be one way, the person could have committed the murder, and then you could come another way. harris: well, it'll be interesting to see how this works out. a high school basketball coach in hot water after he's caught on camera head butting a referee. should he be fired? prosecuted even? ♪ ♪
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andrea: you are hungry for more "outnumbered," and we're about to serve it up, but first, jon scott what's coming up in the second hour of "happening now." jon: hope you're hungry for some ah ah too, andrea. the infamous affluenza mom, what charges does she face? seventeen salt miners in upstate new york is rescued, how did they get trapped in the first place? and china stocks diving again today as the communist regime flexes its muscles in
those disputed islands in the south china sea. what does the u.s. need to do to keep china in check? senator john mccain joins us with his thoughts on that. it's all ahead, "happening now." andrea? andrea: thanks, jon. harris: a pennsylvania high school basketball coac placed on leave because of this, video showing him disputing a foul call with the referee, then apparently head butting him, knocking him to the ground. the school and the police department are investigating the incident, but a local sportscaster who was covering the game says he doesn't think the head butt was intentional and that the coach lost his balance as he got too close to the ref. you have to watch for yourself to see whether you believe that. now,s it is interesting, because when you watch reports of this, julie, which you hear there people who were there, the coach tried to say that he didn't mean to do it, so on and so forth. a head butt, deliberate? what do you think? julie: well, if it's deliberate -- first of all be, if it wasn't deliberate, he wouldn't have gotten is the pended. -- suspended. if it is deliberate, there's
no -- this is what you teaching your kids? that doesn't merit suspension -- >> should be criminally charged. julie: he should be fired. i don't know if this is a tenure issue or what, but this is somebody who's coaching children, and these kids are learning from bad behavior. it's ridiculous to be able to condone this by saying, oh, he's going to get a couple days off, probably with pay -- harris: it did not say unpaid leave. i have a specific question for you because you and i, i don't know whether people know this, you and i have worked out some moves on the couch. you've showed me how things work, like a head this or a head that. so you know a lot about. you get too close to a guy, you've watched this video. his head goes back a little bit, you know, like a head butt in soccer, in real life, whatever. you look at this as a professional, what do you see? >> there is no doubt it was an intentional assault. harris: how do you know? >> the way he hits him -- sandra: and then he points at the ref.
>> the same thing as if i took a right hook. this is no place in high school or college, there's no place for this. because then the kids will watch this, and they'll think that, oh, well, the coach did it. no, he should be suspended, he should be arrested for assault -- harris: wow. sandra: it could have killed the guy. >> exactly. if he hit him in the nose, the only thing is we have to calm everybody down, because i don't want the kids to think this is what you do in school. my coach head butted im-- bologna. harris: it's one thing for the parents to get upset about this, but at the professional level, there'd be some cash involved in this. are we looking at a situation where they need to put a penalty -- sandra: i wouldn't be surprised if they announce they're going to get this coach some help, anger management -- harris: what about punishment? sandra: i think he should go. this guy should not be in charge of kids. and a coach needs to set a good
example. you say i was an athlete, i played a lot of sports. i have the fondest memories of my coaches. they set an example. they are people, very important people in the development of kids' lives. that's not, that's not a coach. harris: well, it'll be interesting. quick thought? andrea: it's just high school basketball. i agree with bo, i think everyone needs to calm down. especially the coach. and he should go, i agree with you. sandra: oh, wait, i thought you were saying it wasn't a big deal that he head butted the guy. andrea: high school basketball is not worth butting heads over. harris: well, it's no secret that being attractive can be a benefit, but can being pretty really earn you better grades in school? we'll tell you what researchers found. they do did research on that. really? ♪ ♪ at ally bank no branches equals great rates.
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college from both male and female faculty. researchers saying, quote, it may be that professors invest more time and energy into the better looking students or simply reward the appearance with higher grades given identical performance. now, the results did not hold true when it came to male students' looks. oh. their attractiveness had no impact on their grades. sorry, boys. okay. sandra, on one. sandra: oh, really? >> it reminds me of the onion headline that the unemployment rate for hot checks is zero. sandra: i'm going to say this study is fact. i am not going to dispute this because everyone will know that i am lying. but when you look at the actual numbers, it's just a small relationship to the better looking you are, the better grades -- >> i remember when i was in school, long time before everybody was born, and i remember the ladies that were the plain jane lookers, they got the better marks hand the foxy looking ones. harris: really? andrea: were you doing the grading though?
>> no, they were the ones that got the a+s, the ones they rated real high. they weren't worried about their hair or their makeup. they were studying when the foxy-looking chicks were worried about their hair and makeup, and they were getting better grades. julie: can we be very honest and say whether getting out of traffic tickets or better grades or anything else in life, being better looking just helps across the board, and anybody who says otherwise is lying? andrea: but not for boys, harris. harris: for job interviews, research has been done that shows your looks have to do with how well you're remembered in a job interview. julie: yep. harris: and people who look good and look younger particularly tend to do better because they're remembered more by the interviewer. there's that aspect of it. and then there's also the competence aspect. if you're -- confidence aspect. if you're con saintly told you're given to be given an advantage -- sandra: i don't know how you could say it doesn't affect men.
harris: look at bo dietl! had been tagg one lucky -- #oneluckyguy. >> look at fox. we have the most beautiful women -- app app we gotta go, bo! >> -- with the greatest brains. andrea: zip it. outnumbered overtime, log on to foxnews.com/outnumbered. we'll see you tomorrow. tense texas. >> she took her son to mexico after probation for a drunk driving crash. >> a man attacks a police station one year after terrorist stormed the offices of charlie hebdo magazine. >> and china makes a new power play over an island. is the wh