tv 13 Hours at Benghazi - The Inside Story FOX News January 10, 2016 9:00pm-10:01pm PST
>> you know, you hear over the radio, "we're taking fire. we're under fire." >> we're under fire. >> and you hear the pleading in their voices... >> you can hear it. >> ...that they need help bad. >> i actually dropped to a knee. and then i got up, i'm like, "why the hell did i do that?" and that's when the rocket hit. >> rone had a machine gun. and he started laying down hate. [ gunshots, yelling ] >> i rolled him over. there was no response. i ripped off his body armor, took a pulse. couldn't feel nothing. >> when you realize they're dead, what do you do? >> i just kind of said a prayer
over each -- both of them. ♪ >> i grew up out on the farm, rode horses as much as i could, and worked with cattle. my mom had a book that asked what your career would be, or what you wanted to grow up to be, and mine was always either a police officer, a firefighter, or a soldier. it was december of 1983 when i actually signed up. i wanted to be in the infantry because that's where you get to do all the fun stuff. when i got out of the military, i started working as a police officer. and then after that, i picked up a job as chief of police in a
small town, and then moved on to contracting after that. when i got to benghazi, and i was gonna be there for 60 days, that was my first time into libya. >> i remember walking through our university, and there was an army recruiter. and he picked me out of a crowd. he said, "hey, what are you -- what are you gonna do after college?" he showed me a ranger video. and i asked him, i say, "is that -- that looks pretty tough. is it hard?" and he said, "man, it's -- you got to be pretty tough to get in it." that's what i want to do. if a lot of people can't do it, i want to do that. in 2003, i was medically discharged, and out of the blue, i got a call from blackwater. they were just starting, saying "hey, we're looking for contractors to go to iraq." i said yes. i got the call to go to libya, it was early 2012. >> third grade, that's -- that's when we lived across the street from the recruiting station.
i mean, it just kind of kept going from there. i chose the marine corps because i always hear they're always the toughest guys. so i tried out for the toughest one i could find. got out, actually, about 2 months before i got totally bored. i had to go find work. i end up going and getting a jo. i did that until i got into contracting. [ machine-gun fire ] the first time that i actually went there to libya, i went into tripoli. that was my first trip. the second time i went back, and the third time and the fourth times, they were all in benghazi. >> this attack lasted 13 hours. four people died, including our ambassador. and it was on 9/11. so, i want you to take us back to the beginning. for people who don't know this job, you know, contractors.
i mean, how do you explain it to them? >> private security contractors. and for us, it was protection. it was protecting c.i.a. case officers overseas, doing low-profile protection. >> how did the hierarchy work here? >> well, you have the chief of base. he's the main guy who's in charge. and then you have our -- >> now, that was bob? >> yes. and then you have the team lead, which would be in charge of us. >> our team leader is a staffer. he's an employee for the agency. and then all us contractors are like -- if you're talking military-wise, we're like the enlisted folks. >> other members of your team are not here. obviously, tyrone woods... >> yeah. >> who you called rone. there are two other members who remain anonymous, right? >> yes, correct. >> jack and d.b. >> correct, yes. >> so you were set up to protect the annex, which was the c.i.a... >> the personnel at the annex, yes. >> this is -- gives us a perspective of the other facility there, which was what
you guys call the consulate. where are we here? >> here's the consulate. and then here's us. here's our compound. >> so pretty close, about... >> three-quarters of a mile as the crow flies. about a -- i'd say mile drive. >> maybe. >> maybe a mile, eh, if you did the whole thing. >> so this site, was it well-protected? >> ooh, who wants to take that one? >> no. it looked nice. it was a beautiful compound. i mean, it had orchards. it had a really nice house, had a swimming pool. >> had a nice swimming pool. >> they had their own security. >> they... >> they were their own security. >> they were their own -- yeah. >> the diplomatic security. >> the diplomatic security. >> they didn't have, like, an american force, like a marine detachment. they did it themselves. >> so what'd you tell them? >> me and my bluntness, i said, "you know, if you guys get attacked, you guys are gonna die. you know that, right?" and i remember, i said, "if you ever need us, you just call us. we'll come get you." >> what's your reaction when you hear ambassadors
coming to benghazi on september 10th, september 11th, of all days? >> we were, like, thinking, you know, "there's only five guys to protect him, and it's a huge compound." >> all right, so 9/11 comes. >> mm-hmm. >> pretty routine day, it sounds like. >> yeah, it was. >> during the day? >> it was pretty -- it was actually... >> just normal. >> ...a normal day, just doing normal task stuff, task organization stuff. >> you had to move. late -- i guess it was late in the afternoon? >> late afternoon, early evening, went out to meet some people for dinner. normal night. town looked normal. there was nothing that looked any different than any other day. >> and there was no whisper that this video was a major problem in benghazi or something? >> didn't know about a video until i got to germany. no idea about any video, no. no, sir. >> all right, so how do you hear that something's wrong? >> our team leader. he actually came across the radio. and i remember, i looked at my watch, and it was 9:32 when i got the call, first got the call on the radio that said, "hey, you know,
we need all grs." >> grs? >> yes. >> what is that, grs operators? >> global response staff. >> global response staff, yep. i remember, i looked at d.b. and said, "hey, something's going on. we're gonna do something tonight." just grabbed my stuff, threw my shoes on, and started moving to the -- moving to our team room. >> and where were you? >> myself and jack, we were in building d. i was just getting undressed, getting ready to go to bed. >> i meet the t.l. about halfway, about right there. and i said, "hey, man, what's happening?" and he goes, "the consulate's under attack." you could start hearing the fire, the actual concentration of fire, and some explosions. >> it was a relatively quiet night in benghazi. and by 9 o'clock, the seven americans in the compound are settling down for the night. you got the ambassador in his room writing in his diary. you've got sean smith, the communications expert, online talking with a friend. and you've got five diplomatic security agents. somewhere around 30 or 40 minutes later, men stream onto the compound bearing ak-47s, chanting in arabic, shooting off their guns.
>> [ speaking foreign language ] [ gunshots ] >> almost instantly, they've overrun the compound, where there are 17 february militiamen who were supposed to be guarding the compound, but they just flee. >> now, you're ready to go. >> five minutes, we're ready. thumbs up, thumbs up. we're ready to go. >> then what happens? >> i went to the t.l. and i said, "hey, we're ready to go." bob looks right through me and looks at the team leader and goes, "you guys need to wait." he's on the phone talking to somebody. i assumed they were trying to coordinate us to link up with 17 february. >> which is the local militia. >> which is the local militia. >> it'd probably been 15 minutes, i think, and i got out of the car, and bob and the team lead were standing on the front porch. and i just said, "hey," you know, "we got -- we need to get over there. we're losing the initiative." you know, and bob just looks straight at me and said, "stand down. you need to wait." >> we're starting to get calls from the state department guy saying, "we're taking fire. we need you guys here. we need help." >> yeah, we were talking about it in the car. >> on our way, i asked, "what the hell's going on?
why are we waiting?" >> ambassador stevens and sean smith are forced to take refuge in a specially-protected area, the safe haven inside the villa. with them is scott wickland, a security agent charged with protecting the ambassador. they hide behind a locked gate. wickland waits in the shadows with a rifle ready to shoot anyone who tries to enter. the attackers can't get in, but use nearby diesel fuel to set the villa on fire. >> from beginning to when you're ready to go, thumbs up, you're ready to go out, to the time when you actually pull out... >> mm-hmm. >> what's that time frame? >> it's close to 25 -- 25 minutes. i went up to bob. i said, "hey, we need to go," and go the "wait" again. and i got in the car. i told the t.l., "get in the backseat," and looked at rone. he gave me a thumbs up. i gave him a thumbs up. and we left. >> and you guys did that pretty much on your own. >> yes. we did.
we were never given the okay to go. we got -- the final straw for us to go, at least that's my opinion and how i felt, was where one of the d.s. agents said, "hey, they're starting to light the buildings on fire. you guys need to get here." >> they used the words stand down. a number of people now, including the house intelligence committee, they insist no one was hindered from responding to the situation at the compound. the committee's wording was, "there was no stand-down order given to american personnel attempting to offer assistance that evening." so what do you say to that? >> ain't the way it happened. >> it happened on the ground -- all i can talk about is what happened on the ground that night. >> to you. >> to us, to myself twice, and to tig once. it happened that night. that happened. we were told to wait, stand -- and stand down. we were delayed three times. >> you asked for support. >> after i was leaving, i said, "well, get us an isr," which is a u.a.v. -- a drone -- and get us a spectre gunship. >> so the drone would have given
you eyes... >> eyes on. >> ...above. >> yep. given us the advantage. >> and the ac-130... >> support, protection and -- >> firepower. >> exactly. i remember, i still remember. it gives me, kind of, chills. he says, "they're lighting the buildings on fire. if you guys do not get here, we are gonna die." >> scott wickland leads ambassador stevens and sean smith to a spot in the bathroom inside the safe haven. the window there is barred, and acrid smoke billows into the area. he hopes to get them to a nearby bedroom, which has a window that can be opened from the inside. he says, "follow me," and crawls toward that spot. it's dark and smoky. but he makes it to the window.
he opens it and drops out. only then does he realize stevens and smith haven't followed. he goes back in several times but can't find them. finally, exhausted and choking, he climbs to the roof and radios alec henderson and dave ubben, two security agents elsewhere inside the compound. his message, "the ambassador and sean smith are missing." >> now, tig, you and jack and rone are going the front gate. >> front gate, yes. >> and it's open? >> when i was standing right here, a land cruiser came from this direction. i thought it was, like, bad guys stealing the land cruiser. so i drew down my weapon. then i saw it was d.s. guys were actually driving it. and that's when i -- when i heard, "hey, you know, we can't find the ambassador." and so i started moving towards the front porch, getting up on the front porch. and that's when they were pulling sean's body
out of the window. >> sean smith. >> sean smith. >> but the ambassador's still lost? >> the ambassador's still lost. >> tig, you and tyrone woods, rone... >> mm-hmm. >> ...go into the building, one of many times. but you go in, and there's a moment there. >> he was saying, "hey, i can't find my way out." i was just saying, "come to my voice, come to my voice." but he almost made another right into where the, like -- i think it was a dining room, and it was just totally engulfed in flames. i reached out, grabbed him, and said, "this way." we just went out and coughed up a couple lungs. >> now, tanto, you're back here with d.b. >> yes. all right, look -- one of the libyan guards in the back, he goes, "mister, mister, come open -- open the gate. open the gate." so i came back. i opened up the gate. i looked at the commander. i said, "when you come through this gate, you close it and you lock it." and i moved forward. and, you know, as we found later, he didn't do that. and we paid for it. we paid for it down the road. >> you've been there for a while now. and you can't find the ambassador. you've been in multiple times. then you hear gunfire
from outside the compound. and then rocket-propelled grenade. >> all of a sudden, a big explosion -- bam! just huge. and i -- >> where's it hit? >> it was over in this area. so it's basically on the other side of where we were all trying to mass and collect and -- and get out. and another explosion goes off. and it's coming from the gate that... >> was left open. >> ...is left open. and i just start returning fire. >> i was inside the safe haven. that's when i heard the explosion and the gunfire start cracking off. >> and what'd you do? >> i moved from here over to here, crouched all the way down. it was the same time a guy with an rpg moved into the view of the gate. and that's what he -- he was coming up here, shooting, then he'd run away. come up here, shoot, run away. and just as he was shooting, i shot him. >> you shot him. he went down. >> and then it was just weird. it was like a light switch. everything stopped. >> so, you guys finally get together. you, what, give up the search for the ambassador? >> the team leader, you know, he made the call. and we'd done everything that we -- tig had been in that house. jack had been in that house so many times.
the state department guys had now left the compound. they were gone. they were on their way back to ours. >> rone tells them, "make sure you take a left." and then in the confusion of the counter attack... >> yes. >> ...they take a right. >> take a right. i said to myself -- well, i can't say what i said to myself on camera. but it was, "damn, you knuckleheads." now we're holding a piece of property that, basically, that there's nobody else on. >> the t.l., he just comes over the radio saying, "everybody get down, we're -- we're getting out of here."
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x1 from xfinity will change the way you experience tv. >> while they were jocking up, rone calls me on the cell phone. tells me, "you need to get back to base and just stay away from the consulate." >> so you tell the case officer, "we got to wrap up this now." >> yeah. she's trying to say her good-byes, and i'm like, "we need to go now." and, like any good case officer, she's trying to gather information on what's going on. and i just looked her and said, "you know what? you're in my world now. you need to be quiet. just let me do what i need to do." >> now, you have been back on the compound in the annex for a while. you said before you felt like you wanted to be with your team. but you also knew you had a job to do there.
>> i knew i was the only one. i mean, we had two site security officers that were a great help. but from the grs side, i was the only one that was there. >> the d.s. guys come back first. the armored car held up. but they roll in. >> i could hear, when they were leaving, they announced it over the radio. and then i heard tons of gunfire and knew, kind of, where they were at just from the direction. and then all of a sudden they're calling that they're coming in. >> hot. >> coming in hot. >> which means...? >> they're coming in fast. >> it means have the gate ready, have it open. >> have the gate open. you hear that "flop, flop" sound of the tires just -- you know, they're on run-flats. but you still hear that sound coming through. and both sides in the front windshield, wind screen, were all shot up. you could see the relief on their face once they got in. scott got out. he looked like a chimney sweep. he was still black almost from head to toe. i told him to get inside,
get some medical help. the other guys asked what they could do, and i told them to get up on the various buildings. and we had one get up on each one of these buildings here. and i went back up on this building until our guys come in. they knew where they needed to go. so each one of them went to their pre-positioned or. jack is up on this roof. rone's up here. >> and d.b. yeah, tanto and d.b. are... >> tanto and d.b. are here. tig is over in this corner, initially. and i'm over in this corner over here. >> you guys are exhausted. >> yeah. >> i mean, some of you probably have smoke inhalation. and you're preparing, maybe, for another fight. >> but now we know -- just gut feeling we're gonna get attacked, and my adrenaline went back up. and so i'm -- >> well, it wasn't long after they'd showed up you start hearing tires screeching... >> yeah.
>> ...over in this area. and we started asking over the radio to the t.l. if feb 17 is coming over to assist us. and then the response was they're not sure. so, we immediately assume that anything that's coming in is coming in that are bad guys. >> i asked the status of the spectre, spectre gunship. and the team leader came across the radio and said, "hey," you know, "we're checking on it." and that's the last -- that's the last time that i got an actual answer if one was -- we were gonna get any support or not. >> i was expecting at least some kind of air support, even if it was just a fly over by a jet or whatever. >> sometimes that's all it takes. it gets the bad guys down. >> ain't no doubt that would have been nice. >> i want to put this back up here just so you can describe what's outside the annex that you're most concerned about. >> the stock yards, yeah. >> stock yards. >> and this is very -- a lot of concealment. it's a lot of bushes and small trees in this area. and this is what we call zombieland, basically, this whole area.
>> most of the activity were here, and it's coming over from right at this intersection. >> yeah, and they're starting to stage here, here in this -- and this whole area, this is just a big, open parking lot. and here's the -- here's the house that we're seeing people start to go into that little area. >> and they can come into here and it gives them access to our back gate. >> so, you're watching this develop, and these cars and the people going into this house that you don't really know if it's bad guys or not. and what's the engagement? you're gonna wait till they fire on you? >> wait until we see action from them that de-- that specifies them being attacking us or going to attack us. i mean -- i mean, i'm not gonna wait to get hit before i hit back. we start seeing movement coming from this direction through the night-vision goggles. >> the caveat here is this house had kids in there that would actually come and pester us every once in a while. you just didn't want to open fire. you didn't want to -- i don't want to shoot somebody
that doesn't have it coming to them, and i definitely don't want to shoot a child. they were starting to -- just starting to move up on us. and i remember d.b. says, "hey, i got -- i got movement." >> are you lasing them? >> oh, yeah. i've got my -- i've got my laser. and i am lasing targets, saying, "guys, i'm -- i'm picking out targets, people i see." and i got on the radio with oz and tig. i said, "you seeing what i'm seeing?" he goes, "yeah, i got your laser." >> now, can they see it? >> no. only with night vision. >> at this point, when they're moving up -- i mean, in my mind, they're getting ready to be -- we're gonna engage them. we're just gonna let them get as close as possible and then take them out. the first thing they fired was a rpg. and it went flying over the compound. >> came over our -- myself and d.b.'s -- d.b.'s head. >> i was bringing water over to oz. i got about right here, about the corner of the gym, when a gelatina... >> it's a huge flash bang. >> yeah. it's a homemade explosive. >> so, it goes off.
it hit right here, just inside... >> so, then what happened? >> to me it was just, "okay, it's on." and we just started -- started fighting, started lighting them up. and i was just lasing targets, shooting, lasing targets, and shooting them. >> the firefight starts. what does that look like? >> it's gorgeous, man. it's awesome. >> it's a green hue. and with the lasers dancing back and forth from target to target, you see three, four sets of lasers just bouncing back and forth, taking out targets. and you'll see a flash of light, which is the enemy shooting at you, and hear the rounds going past your head. and you're just re-engaging in those spots. >> anybody take a hit? >> yeah, me and tig were up on this -- in this corner, and they were trying to shoot out the lights. and secondary from one of the rounds hitting the wall or one of the lights, splattered up into my face and cut me across the top -- the bridge of the nose. >> so you push back. you obviously take down a lot of people. and it stops. >> to me, and how i explain it, it's, "hey, we won that game." all right, good deal.
morale goes up. i think all of us could feel it. it still wasn't over yet. that was just the probe. that was just the -- they're gonna see our defenses, and they're gonna be coming back with a bigger force because that's what we would do. >> well, there's a big break there then. >> two hours? >> yeah. >> 2, 2 1/2 hours, yeah. >> at one point do you hear about ambassador stevens? >> there was a d.s. agent up on the building with jack and scott wickland. and he got a phone call. and that's how we found out that he was at the -- at the hospital. >> by 1:00 a.m., local looters and curiosity seekers have entered the consulate grounds and infiltrated the safe haven. six, apparently good samaritans, come across an unresponsive man. they take him to the benghazi medical center, where he's worked on for 45 minutes before being declared dead. >> they have scott wickland's phone, which had been given to ambassador stevens during the attack.
calling wickland's stored numbers, someone gets to the american embassy in tripoli and says a man has been found, and he's dead. the caller provides a description matching ambassador chris stevens. >> there's a car pulls up and parks right here. a guy, he comes around from the side of the car. and he's reaching like he's throwing something. and right as he brings his arm back to throw, i engage him. i move and shoot him two to three times. he goes down. and whatever he threw landed just short of our back gate and exploded, which then engaged again. it was... >> the signal. >> the signal. >> and this was bigger. i mean, it was more -- it was a larger force coming through. i mean, there was, i'd say, between 20 cars. >> and, again, we just started engaging threats as they
appeared and taking them out. >> we're like ducks at a row in a shooting gallery, hitting one guy in the head and dropping. >> but it's like bursts of fire. >> but it's -- yeah. it's not -- >> they were kind of spraying. i mean, they were just constantly spraying. >> we are doing controlled bursts. you aim, you shoot. you aim, you shoot. it's not the movies. you don't flip it on fully auto, and you go after it, because you can't hit anything. you're aiming, the single shot. and you're shooting, shooting, shooting until they turn tail and run. >> so, so far, you've taken the ak fire. you've taken rpgs. >> rpgs, yep. >> are you worried that something heavier is coming? >> yes. >> after the second -- >> second. >> yes. >> you're waiting for a third. >> waiting for something bigger. "why are you checking your credit score?"
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♪you'll see there's hope for this world tonight♪ ♪i believe, i believe ♪yeah >> you know, in that second attack, that's when i actually finally got a chance to sit down. all you can think of is, "what was the last conversation that i had with my -- with my spouse or my kids? was it good? was it bad?" >> what was yours? >> it was good. you always want to make -- especially overseas, you want to make that last conversation always good. >> when was it? >> it was the night before. so i knew i had spoken with them. and, hey, that's it. get them out your head. it's time for -- to back on the job. >> rone had just come back up. and we'd been sitting up there talking, because we both had young kids. >> rone had extended. but he was looking forward to
going... >> yeah. going home. that was gonna be his last trip. >> because he -- he wanted to see his -- his -- getting to see his baby. >> had twins. >> he had twins. [ baby gurgling ] >> what's he telling you? >> every day, and two or three times a day, we would skype and send photos and videos of the twins. whenever i was expecting a phone call and didn't get one, that's when you start to worry a little bit. >> all right. you guys good? we always e-mailed or -- or talked on the phone. and he would always call around 3:00, 4:00 p.m. our time. always. and if he didn't, i knew ahead of time why he wasn't gonna be able to call. >> circles. we'd talk every day whenever time would allow, and most often, the same time every day. if he didn't call me, you know, at the time he was supposed to call me, then, you know, i would begin to worry. >> that's one of the reasons i'm fighting. it's one of the reasons i'm doing what i do.
not only for the people here, for the family back home, but, primarily, you're thinking about the team. >> and that's your family. >> and their families. >> their family. 'cause they're family. i mean, we're all family now. we're all brothers. and that's the way it is. and, i mean, so you're thinking of this family here as much as that family there. >> most of the people are staged here in "c"? >> i ended up on top of the command center in building "c" head with rone at this point. >> more cars come by. what happens then? >> we don't know what they're doing. we didn't know if they were guys that are lost, or they were still trying to probe us. >> and there's a guy with a cellphone. >> yeah, yeah. >> and he just walked up, cell phone, and walked back. maybe he was getting gps coordinates with his phone. again, it's just another thing in benghazi. it's eerie. i want to shoot him. but is he just some guy taking a walk? weird things are still happening that night. we're trying to think that, "all right, morale's up. we're out of this. we're good. we fought them off again."
i was expecting, you know, more cars. it was actually -- the first convoy was quite small. but, you know, i was just -- honestly, i was just happy to -- happy to see them. three of the guys i had worked with before, so i recognized them off the bat. >> including glen "bub" doherty. >> including -- including, yeah. >> navy seal. >> navy seal. >> connection with rone, with jack. and you had worked with him. >> in fact, bub and i had just done a trip in tripoli before. before benghazi. i just knew bub from contracting. >> okay, so they come in. they go to building "c." >> mm-hmm. >> and you guys are still kind of waiting for what's happening. >> the aircraft that they had wasn't big enough to take us all back. so they were gonna take the non-shooting personnel and get them out. >> to the airport. >> yes. >> to the airport. we were gonna stay there and hold the alamo. >> [ chuckles ] >> and... >> literally. >> literally. >> yeah, literally. >> literally. and i think they'd probably
been there about an hour. me and rone were talking about that, wondering, you know, what's taking so long. why aren't we getting out of here? the sun was starting to come up. but it was, you know, "we better be ready for another attack because this is when it's gonna come." it was about that time that glen come up on the roof. >> climbed up the ladder. >> and come over and was talking to rone. and rone had introduced me to bub, because i had never worked with him before. he says, "yeah, you know, bub's a sniper." i'm like, "well, hopefully we ain't gonna need you. but i'm glad to have another shooter up here." glen -- bub turned and was walking back towards the front of the building. and almost immediately, a mortar come in and landed on top of the wall right there. >> when i heard it -- and i didn't even know i heard it. it basically sounded like when a rocket goes off and it -- tsshew! >> small-arms fire started coming from this direction. rone had a machine gun. and he stood in a -- probably like a three-quarter cross position and just started
laying down hate. >> laying hate. >> laying hate down through this avenue of approach from here. i started to engage with him. i ran out of ammo, knelt down, changed magazines. and right as i'm coming up and i start to re-engage, another mortar hits almost to the center of the building here. and that one, it knocked me back. and that's what hit rone. rone was standing to my left. i got knocked back. and as i stood back up, i saw him out of the corner of my eye. and he was in a fetal position in the corner right here. i stand up and try to re-engage with my rifle. and i bring my hand up, and from here down is hanging off at a 90-degree angle. >> your hand is just hanging, flop? >> yeah. i just keep trying to bring it up. and it won't stay. i can't -- can't make it work. and that's when the second round hit.
that's when i saw bub go down about right here. i wasn't sure if he was hit, or if he was just taking cover. and then i turn back and again tried to engage and get my hand to come up. and a third round hits in the same vicinity. and at that point, i mean, i just felt like i got hit by 1,000 -- stung by 1,000 bees just up and down my side. and i figure i better get to some cover now in case another one comes. and the whole night went quiet after that. >> that tough to talk about? >> yeah. yeah, just a little. >> i bet. >> yeah. but, you know, it's it's what has to be done. i mean, you're in a fight, you got to stay in a fight. that's the only thing i could think of is, "rone's down. somebody needs to be taking -- needs to continue firing." >> and you see this mortar attack happen. what are you doing?
>> i'm still -- i'm over here on tower three, still, you know, covering this area. to me, it looked like it hit, like, right around here. we had no cover for mortar attacks. i mean, even the buildings, i'm -- i'm surprised that one didn't collapse. another explosion hits right here. when i heard another "thoomp," i -- that's when i jumped off the tower, moved back and got somewhere right around here. and that's when the -- the mortar hit. and once that mortar hit, it just -- it was pitch black and dead quiet. jack came over and said, "hey, man, there's no movement." and that's when i sprinted to the ladder. and then i just kind of skiddied on up as fast as iapet. and that's when i saw, uh... [ clears throat ] ...dave ubben off to my left, looked like somebody in the center. and then a couple other people maybe over here. but it -- it still was a lot -- smoke was still up there from -- from just the debris kind of settling down.
and so i moved over to dave. i find a tourniquet, because dave's leg was pretty much completely severed off. i think it was just barely hanging on by a thread. and same with his arm. >> some ligaments, yeah. >> so, got the tourniquets on him, called back on the radio, say, "hey, i need the -- i need help up here. you know, i need -- i need help. i heard noise. so i moved over to where the noise was, and it was... >> i was trying to get a tourniquet out, put on myself. and then i saw him -- >> meanwhile, your hand is still flopped down. >> yeah. so i pulled out the tourniquet. and i was just trying to fix my arm. i just kept grabbing it and trying to put it back in place. and, uh... >> he's just sitting there kind of going, "hey, check this out." and his arm is, you know, it's just -- i'm like, "dude, you need to stop. you're gonna make it worse." >> "stop playing with it." >> so i -- >> i was bored. >> he got his tourniquet there. reached down, grabbed his tourniquet, threw it on him real quick, stood him up. >> he asked me if i could get down or get over to the ladder. and i'm like, "yeah, i'm gonna have to," because i knew there was others that were down.
>> meanwhile you're pretty banged up. >> yeah, just a little bit. i got hit in the chest, up and down my side. i got hit in the throat. and i'm like, "yeah, i guess i'll have to." and so i hook my top arm around the top rung of the ladder and just climbed over, and was concentrating on just thinking, "you know, if i don't -- if i fall now, i'm gonna break my neck and die. and that's the last thing i want to do." so i'm just concentrating on getting my feet on that rung. and sure enough, i slip. and, luckily, i had my arm, and i caught myself and [clears throat] pulled myself back up, got down, and then was able to inch my way down the ladder. >> after i got oz up and moving, i went straight back to rone. he was still in the fetal position. i rolled him over. there was no response. i ripped off his body armor and tried -- you know, got that off.
took a pulse, couldn't feel nothing. got the flashlight, shined it in his eyes. no -- no pupil movements, no dilation. put my ear to his chest and try to see if his chest was going up and down or if i could hear a heartbeat. there was nothing. so i left -- left him, went over to the other guy. so i did, pretty much, the same exact thing, checked him, ripped off his body armor. and it was -- there was nothing. >> when you realize they're dead, what do you -- what do you do? >> [ clears throat ] well, at the -- i just kind of said a prayer over each -- both of them. >> and the quote is, "god watch over him, guide him to where he needs to be, take care of his family." >> mm-hmm. so that -- after that, you know, i kind of -- the d-boys, the whole time, they're -- you know, they just want to get
everybody off the roof. and i -- when i was doing the prayer, i just -- i just ignored them, you know? i was just like... gathered up everybody's weapons that was left. >> you got to get the bodies off the -- the roof. >> [ clears throat ] >> it's tough. >> mm. >> the d-boys picked the bodies up and dumped them over the side of the roof. maybe that's not the right description, but they took them -- they got them off the roof in the most expedient manner. and by doing that, it was just throwing them over the edge of the roof to get them down. i just leave that to each person's decision on, you know, whether right, wrong, indifferent. but i know that it's not something you want to see. check this out, bro.
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>> i turned on the news, and there it was. you know, four americans have been dead, and two were unidentified. and i'm like, "you know, he hasn't called me." i tried texting him. i tried calling him. you know, began to -- to cry. and -- and i just hit my knees and -- and prayed. >> in past experience, if i start panicking right away, then i just get myself worked up. so i just tried to not worry about it. and i thought, "well, i'll hear from him in the morning or the next evening." >> there was a ticker on the bottom of whatever news channel it was. and it said something to the effect that there was an attack on the annex in benghazi.
and my heart dropped. and i'm like, "gosh, how am i gonna tell the kids?" and that was my first reaction. >> let me take you to when the bigger convoy arrives. >> yeah. >> they finally get there. it's like 50 cars. >> yeah. >> there's technicals, which are the big, mounted machine guns. >> it was mean. it was a mean convoy. i remember the first vehicle coming in, i had my gun on him. i had eyes on. well, i'm aiming right -- right at his head. and i just reached my hand off the -- with my off hand, and i went like this. and he reached out, reached out the car, and did, like, and big smile. and one thing that we've learned on these jobs, you have to know how to read people. >> is there a part of you guys that looked at that convoy and said, "where was that? where was that before?"
>> yes, i did. like, where the -- where the hell were these guys? where -- where were they? >> hours ago. >> exactly. >> you get everybody mounted up. you're driving to the airport in this massive convoy, but still probably worried about attacks on the way. >> sure. >> you get there. and there's another confrontation. >> between the militias, yeah. our militia and then whoever militia was controlling the airport. and we were the bigger militia, so we got -- we got through. >> you have a smaller airplane. it's not exactly big for everybody. >> yeah. >> load you guys up. or you walk on. >> they were starting to pull me off, and i'm like, "i walked into benghazi. i'm gonna walk out of here." and i get up, slide to the edge and stand up. and there's still blood dripping down my arm and the -- because it was a private jet, there was a flight attendant. and her eyes just get as big as saucer plates. and she's laying towels down... >> yeah. >> ...because she's worried about her boss' airplane getting
messed up. and then they bring in dave. and he was in and out of consciousness throughout the flight. and somewhere in between that, somebody's clearing their gun, their pistol. >> in the plane? >> yeah. >> in the plane. and a round goes off. and the pilot is, "i'm not gonna" -- he wasn't gonna take off until they could confirm that whether or not the fuselage had been breached. >> but they figured it out. >> it had lodged against one of the seat posts and didn't penetrate anything. >> dave ubben, he was bleeding out. if there was another delay... >> he probably wouldn't have made it because he was down to about as much blood as a person could lose before they die. >> you're taking off in the plane. the rest of you guys are gonna wait for the next plane... >> yes. >> ...with the bodies. and then, eventually, the body of ambassador stevens. >> yes.
>> i didn't answer it on the first ring. it rang a couple times because i wasn't sure who it was gonna be. if it was gonna be him, or if it was gonna be some, you know, representative informing me of what had happened. i took a deep breath. and i listened. and i just said, "okay, and i love you." and i probably didn't sleep much that night. >> it was really brief. he just said, "i'm okay. everything is okay." and i just -- and, click, he hung up. so it was super quick. >> finally, it was about 5:00 in the afternoon, a nurse from landstuhl had called and said that he had arrived there. and so i was just like -- just, like, i could breathe. [ voice breaking ] and just -- just thank god.
>> would you do it all over again? >> yes. definitely. i'd be there. >> that's just the way we are. i mean... >> we run to it. we're not running away from it. >> how often do you get back to this 13 hours? do you think about it a lot? >> every day you think about it. there ain't a day that you don't. [ sighs ] >> i mean, i'm reminded of it every time i go to grab something. >> 'cause of your hand. >> yeah, because i still don't have full use of it. never -- probably never will have full use of it. i mean... but so it is a reminder. but it -- it reminds me of the honor of -- of fighting with guys like tig and tanto and rone and bub and jack and d.b. very few times in your life will you get to form a bond
like this. and most of the time it's done in situations that suck. and -- but, you know, i wouldn't -- i wouldn't give it up. >> when you see all of the back and forth that has happened over the past roughly 2 years, what do you think about all the political battle and that sort of thing? >> you can't get wrapped up in it because it's -- we're not politicians. you know, we're contracts. we're soldiers. we were marines, rangers. we still are, you know? we'll always be. so leave that to the politicians. i can't speak for why a politician did this or why a politician did that. all i can speak for is what we went through that night and what happened. >> if gave you that 30 minutes back, and i gave you some air power, would ambassador stevens and sean smith be alive today? >> yes. to me, without the delay, they would still be alive. my gut is yes. >> you in on that?
>> i-i strongly believe if we'd have left immediately, they'd still be alive today. >> i think there's a lot of things could have been different. i mean, air power -- if we had some air support, if they'd have sent somebody in... >> the spectre, in my opinion, can see heat signatures. and, you know, what -- >> they would've been able to see the mortar team. >> they would be able to see the mortar team setting up. >> which mean that rone and bub would be alive. >> would it have improved our chances? oh, heck yeah. man: i'll have the meat loaf. what about you? sorry, just getting a quote on motorcycle insurance from progressive. yeah? yeah, they have safe rider discounts, and with total loss coverage, i get a new bike if mine's totaled. but how's their customer service? great. 24/7. just like here. meat loaf! [dings bell] just like here.
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>> i said to myself, "as soon as my baby girl says she doesn't want me doing this any more, i'm gonna stop doing it." and she did on my last trip to yemen. and she goes, "daddy, i don't want you to go fight bad guys any more." granted, i still miss the guys. i miss going overseas. but every night when i go upstairs and i get to kiss my kids good night, it all dissipates. >> just like to enjoy being home, getting all -- me and the wife just together, the kids. and -- and it's just peaceful. >> [ giggles ] >> [ laughs ] is that fun? >> yes. >> want to do it again?
>> not having my thumb that opposes, it's very difficult to pick things up. and it's one of those things you don't really think about until you don't have it anymore. oh, you like the red one? okay. need me to hold your baby? >> thank you, lord, for this food. and we just thank you that we're here with our friends and just watch over us and keep us safe. and god bless us. >> greater love hath no man this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. i-i think of -- i think of tyrone and bub every time i read that. >> they're still part of the team. >> they're always there. >> they're just somewhere else right now. i mean, eventually, i guess, we'll all link up again someday.
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