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guy. steve hayes. hey, thanks for inviting us into your home tonight. that's it for report, fair, balanced and unafraid. make it a great weekend. greta goes "on the record" right now. tonight, "on the record," a market meltdown and every single one of you will feel this even if you don't own one share of stock. the dow taking a nose dive and closing down. the economy taking a major hit market 2016 does not appear to be going away. what is causing this frightful chaos? and what does it mean for you whether you own stocks or you don't? the fox business network gerri willis is in new york with the very latest. gerri? >> big sell off going on 13 days. we have had big swings in the market, triple digits, it's starting to frighten people who hold stocks in a 401(k) or know people who do. here is the reality, oil prices plummeting 70% from their highs. they closed below $30 a
barrel today. and that's confusing everybody in the market. now the isn't aboutér stocks. look at that fall 3 90 points. the talk veally about recession. the talk is about deflation. people are worried about the economy now. why? what provoked all of this down .3 trillion from the high point in 2015. this isn't like a blip. this is -- well, the numbers speak for themselves. >> people feel like they have seen this movie before and i think individual investors are more incline to do sell earlier rather than later and be patient which is probably what they should do. yes, the oil price is important but we have got a slowdown in china that is affecting the entire planet's economy, effecting all countries. there is worries here domestically. earnings for companies are down, falling, not good. and now we see that we are entering our tenth year of g.d.p., that's the growth of
the economy that is 3% or less. this isn't the america most people know. we are growing very slowly. if you slow down just a little bit more, you are in recession. >> well, china has actually had more of a growth. they have actually had a higher number than 3%. how do we sort of turn our 3% around to be 4% or 5%? >> well, first of all, you can't really believe what china says. okay, their numbers are suspect always. how can we grow our economy more? well, there is some simple solutions. you cut taxes and that gives more people more money to spend. it gives companies more money to invest. and you create an environment that's friendly to business. >> gerri, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> so what is behind the worst two week start to a year ever? is it like there to get worse? what does this mean four at home chairman and editor of chief forbes media goes "on the record." good evening, sir. >> good evening, greta. how are you? >> i'm very well. you see these horrible numbers. i'm thinking what if you are sitting out some place in my
hometown and you own one share of stock. what does that mean for that person? i know what it means for people who own stock and have seen it crater. >> what it means the outlook for the economy the outlooks don't look very good. no policies put in place that will regenerate growth. the federal reserve is still gumming up the:q credit markets which small and new businesses. profits are under pressure. regulations are coming out that are burdening especially small businesses. and the back lending to small and new businesses has stalled because regulation is ownerous. you put all that together and the business is still not good. still not clear what's going to happen in the political process. if pro-growth policies look like they were going to come in. markets anticipating the future are starting to rise up. they don't see that picture clearing up yet. >> why did it seem to move so rapidly even in the first few days of this month 1.5 trillion decline. is it just the price of oil? is that enough to shake
everyone's confidence? >> we have drastic cuts in the price of oil back in the 19 80s. but we had pro-growth policies in place. the reagan tax cuts. conquering !eñ inflation. deregulation of some major industries. so the rest of the economy grew rapidly. this time you are getting a crash in oil prices. and you don't have those pro-growth policies in place. so that means you are going to have bankruptcies there that are not going to be offset by vigorous new companies rising up as we had in the 80's and 90's. >> to what extent canm? you assign part of the responsibility for this, at least the last few days to the obama administration policy? i mean, is it just so many different factors or is this something directly that emanates from an administration? >> well, the obama administration hasn't had real growth -- pro-growth policies for a long time. and they are no indication that that is going to change. regulations are continuing to come out of the e.p.a. is continuing to go on a rampage. other agencies like the fcc
are now putting its claws more and more into the internet, slowing down investment there for the future. so, it's -- the policies have been in place and they are just like it's water torture just hurting the economy more and more. we can't get out of second gear. we should be growing at two to three times the rate we have been in recent years. afternoon the rest of the world is noticing it. so, if we are faltering, the rest of the world is going to falter as well. >> all right. so the way that it gets down to like someone who doesn't have stock is if you maybe want to expand your gas station or your diner or something, you are north going to be able to get loans and you will be afraid to and sort of putting the a foot on the throats of people all the way down the economic chain. >> that's right. if you can get the financing, oftentimes now you can get from new sources but the interest rates are higher which puts pressures on small businesses. but, in terms of people who have stocks, my advice is don't panic. these things don't last forever and you get whip sawed by emotions so even
though the waters are choppy right now, this sounds polyanish but it has to be said, this country always finds a way to move ahead. i'm old enough to remember the 70's, the decade when things looked hopeless and we had two fantastic decades in the 80's and 90's. >> i hope you are right. i'm a little bit of a nay sara and i feel like sooner or later we are not going to have that. we have been lucky it's bounced back. you know better than i do. anyway, steve, thank you. >> thank you, greta. >> turning now to 2016 and the fizzling issue. the big apple. yes, new york city was a hot issue in last night's fox business network debate. donald trump and senator ted cruz battling over a comment senator cruz made earlier this week and repeated last night. >> i think he may shift in his new ralliesboi@ to play new york, new york. because donald comes from new york and he elm bodies new york values. and, listen, the donald seems to be a little bit
rattled. >> donald trump not happy with the new york values crack quickly defended his hometown. >> i think most people know exactly what new york values are. the values in new york city are socially liberal or proabortion or pro-gay marriage. focused around money and the media. concept of new york values is not that complicate to do figure out. not too many years ago donald did a long interview with tim russert. and in that interview, he explained his views on a whole host of issues that were very different from the views he is describing now. and his explanation, he said, look, i'm from new york. not a lot of conservatives come out of manhattan. >> conservatives actually do come out of manhattan, including william f. buckley and others, just so you understand. >> when the world trade center came down, i saw something that no place on earth could have handled more beautifully, more
humanely than new york. you had two 100 -- and the people in new york fought and fought and fought and we saw more death and even the smell of death, nobody understood it. and it was with us for months. the smell, the air. and we rebuilt downtown manhattan and everybody in the world watched and everybody in the world loved new york and loved new yorkers. i have to tell you that was a very insulting statement that ted made. [ applause ] >> just moments ago senator ted cruz addressing the issue. >> hillary clinton and andrew cuomo and bill de blasio have all demanded an apology. i'm happy to apologize. i apologize to the millions of new yorkers who have been let down by liberal politicians in that state. i apologize to the hard working men and women of the statee of new york who have been denied jobs because
governor cuomo won't allow fracking even though there had been many high paying jobs just south in pennsylvania, new yorkers are denied the ability to provide for their family. i apologize to all the pro-life and pro-marriage and pro-second amendment new yorker who's were told by governor cuomo that they have no place in new york because that's not who new yorkers are. i apologize to all the small businesses who have been driven out of new york city by crushing taxes and regulations. >> the "on the record" political panel is here from the "weekly standard" danielle hell per and from the "washington times" steven dine than. ic.ven, that was no apology. >> yeah, look, two things. yesterday, in the clip you just played have you ted cruz literally applauding donald trump's response attack on him. that's devastating. >> that split screen was ugly. >> you see today the apology as it is actually ignores donald trump and essentially goes after new york again without even making the connection to donald trump there.
he is losing this and it is not a smart move. just basically trash the town without even still having that his goal was to say donald trump has flip flopped on issues. that's a fine attack to make. to go back and lay out those issues. attacks the city÷ isn't getting that done. >>[r danielle, he just dug himself deeper for all of those new yorker who's weren't impressed by his statement last night and a couple days ago. he just dug himself in deeper. >> look, substantively, i don't think it's stupid of ted cruz. he need to do make a difference between he as a movement conservative, as an ideological conservative and donald trump as somebody else. but he tried to do it too subtly. >> he tried to be cute. >> he tried to be too cute and he got whacked. with donald trump i think ted cruz proved in other parts of the debate you come in strong, you have it be forceful. you do this weak stuff and you are going to get whacked around and slapped around an20l&v are going. >> it's interesting how donald trump how say is quite a colorful language and quite a colorful come
back was sort of, was so sober in his delivery. >> such a jokester and so serious and sober. >> stephen says and then in the split screen you have poor ted cruz having to clap as he is getting buried by donald trump. >> ugly, ugly. i mean, this is not what he wanted. and that's why you have to come in forceful. proved in other parts of the debate. in that moment, his line of attack has not served him well, even though he has need to do make the argument that he is a conservative and donald trump isn't in order for him. >> i suppose there were other good times in the debate for senator ted cruz but we in the media with that great wisdom we pick the one that grabbed everybody's attention. and that's the one everyone is going to keep seeing tonight that missed the debate last night. >> that's the problem with this attack. right, it overshadowed some really good exchanges, a pretty good defense though. donald trump certainly still got his point across on ted cruz and the birth issue for the constitution. but, all of that was
overshadowed. this is the flip that's been playing. he is now getting asked about defending it on the campaign trail. you know, he is a very good debater. it's sort of a shocking. >> i think today being we have more on the scuffle between these two candidates. this is a fox news alert. a hostage situation in a hotel in west africa. heavily armed fighters. storming a luxury hotel and fox newsñyáz chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is here. catherine? >> greta, what really matters about this attack is that it is the new signature or flavor for terrorism. it's what they call a low tech high impact attack. that means that they're using traditional firearms, grenades, they are lighting hostages. but it has a big impact. it's a big commercial impact. and if you look at the terrorist attacks over the last 10 days, whether it's
istanbul, jakarta, or now this very small land locked country in west africa, you see they are focusing on soft targets and targets that are likely to have european and american citizens. >> >> the a.p. is now reporting that 20 people are dead from this attack on this hotel. >> well, just in the last few minutes, al qaeda in the islamic known as aqim has one of their social media accounts. this is significant because this group is extremely active in north africa, but they is somewhat of a power struggle in west africa between al qaeda and isis. if you looked at the map, most people have not heard of burkina faso. it's niger and mali. >> mali, in the last few months had that horrible
attack on that radison hotel where actually many westerners, a woman actually from the state department who lived here in washington she was killed in that attack. >> here's the bottom line. we're talking and very focused about syria and iraq with isis. but in many respects, these terrorist groups have moved on to chapter 2 and chapter 2 is in north and west africa. unfortunately what we are seeing tonight, this small country that most americans have not heard of is really the new flavor and the next wave of terrorism. >> and, of course, i always point out othe horrors of sudan which is -- >> -- can't point that out. >> i can't point out enough about sudan and their president under indictment for genocide for killing tens of hundreds of thousands. anyway, thank you very much, catherine. >> you're welcome. >> developing right now, there is new information from the pentagon about iran seizing so of our navy sailors from the persian gulf. defense officials are now saying the 10 u.s. sailors were told by the iranian cap captors to act happy while being videotaped.
it was broadcast on iran state tv. the video showed u.s. navy lieutenant giving a so-called apology for drifting into iranian waters. he may have been under duress. they think the navy lieutenant should be court martialled for his apology. as an aside, i don't agree. tonight, fox news also confirms the u.s. navy crew apparently decide to do cut a corner to make up time to get to a planned refueling point that might explain how they ended up in iranian territory. tonight, we simply do not have all the facts. and donald trump and senator ted cruz squaring off over the birther issue. but how big is this issue? and is it real? that's next. also, the highly anticipated benghazi movie 13 hours in theaters now. and one candidate is using the movie to help his campaign. wait until you hear what he is doing and who it is. that's coming up. >> we are not supposed to be here. >> you will wait. resting.
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back in september my friend donald said he had had his lawyers look at this from every which way and there was no issue there. there was nothing to this birther issue. [ laughter ] since september the constitution hasn't changed. [ laughter ] but the poll numbers have. [cheers and applause] i would note that the birther theories that donald has been relying on, some of the more extreme ones insist that you must not only be born on u.s. soil but have two parents born on u.s. soil under that theory, not only why be disqualified,
mush would be disqualified. bobby jindal would be disqualified and interestingly enough donald j. trump would be disqualified. donald's mother was born in scotland. she was naturalized. now, donald -- >> -- but i was born here. >> on the issue of citizenship, donald. >> big difference. >> i'm not going to use your mother's birth against you. [ laughter ] >> because it wouldn't work. i already know that democrats are going to be bringing the suit. who the hell knows if you can even serve in office. there is a big question mark on>rh-y your head and you can't do that to the party. you really can't. you can't do that to the party. >> i will tell you i'm not going to be taking legal advice from donald trump. >> you don't have to. >> donald trump once again the leader of a birther movement. and once again target is not president obama but instead 2016 rival senator ted cruz. is senator ted cruz's eligibility a big problem for him or trump trying to muddy the waters of his closest competition. the "on the record" political panel is back.
is what do you think of this i might add i'm eligible. >> when ted cruz is good, is he really good. that was a very good defense. bringing up the mother i have a feeling if this begins to hurt ted cruz there are signs it might be hurting him a little bit around the edges in iowa ghvment a close election that matters around the edges. i think he will be using donald trump's mother and her not being born in america against him. >> but he was born here, right? >> donald trump was born here. >> he claims under the same logic that therefore donald trump is not a naturalized citizen if you are going to count ted cruz as one. that was his argument last night which3 i thought was pretty persuasive. i think we will be hearing more of it if it hurts him and it is hurting him a little bit. it's only going to become a bigger issue. even as silly as it might seem. >> whether ted cruz wins or loses on this. i have article for from two harvard professors one republican, one democrat and article from a professor in the "the washington post" but regardless, assuming that senator ted cruz does win this, this is a big
distraction. >> it is. although the polling suggests as daniel says it's not particularly hurting him right now. we saw one poll where they didn't ask about it and the iowa voters, caucus goers, a number of them offered it and said well, we have questions. the question is whether any of those cruz voters in the first place and we don't actually know that it's not clear how much it's hurting him, number one you are exactly right. he is talking about things he doesn't want to be talking about about new york and his birth. instead of all the issues and the establishment and those sorts of -- those sorts of topics. it's not where he wants to be. i agree with daniel. he looked very good. by the same token, trump's response is solid which is there is a question out there. this is not settled law. as long as there is a question, you are going to be facing this and you might be a threat to the republican party. >> apparently some guy in texas already followed suit today. i want to know what the viewers think because it's now your chance to vote at home on twitter. is the cruz birther controversy a serious problem for him?
tweet yes or no using #greta. we will show you then your live twitter votes throughout the show. okay, panel, let's turn to the democrats. the oldest candidate in the entire field senator bernie sanders at 74 years old getting huge support from what you may think an unlikely group, young women. a brand new "u.s.a. today" rock the vote poll finding 51% of democratic or independent women ages 18 to 34 pick senator sanders. secretary hillary clinton way behind sanders, 19 points behind to be exact. she has got 31%. so, why is senator sanders the pick for young women, daniel? >> this is devastating for hillary clinton. obviously senator sanders is touching a nerve. he is genuine. nobody questions whether he actually believes in what he is saying unlike his democratic opponent. and i think that to young people i think that matters. hillary clinton has been pandering too much to women she has been treating them too much like an object of her, you know, that she can just win over by throwing
more money to planned parenthood and things like that. i think being genuine matters as donald trump is proving. and i think bernie sanders is just you feel. >> bernie sanders going to give free college to everybody? isn't that what he is telling everybody? i wonder what his numbers are for the guys. i bet it's not that far off we expect the women to go with hillary clinton. he is offering the moon. >> something to what daniel said. this is a guy who wanted moon. hillary clinton changed her positions in her officers to constituencies. bernie sanders is a democratic socialist. he has always wanted to expand that sort of government assistance that happens to resonate with a lot of young voters in particular from that poll independent and democratic voters we are looking at. look, the real danger to hillary clinton here is these are the same sorts of demographics and same sorts of polls that we saw in 2008 when obama came a month out from iowa caucuses. bernie sanders' polls are
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freddie gray ended with a hung jury. baltimore reporter kenneth spoke with a jury in the -- juror in the case. the most serious charge involuntary manslaughter. they were one vote away from not guilty? >> they were. so, according to sources we talked to, the jury and the final vote prior to dead locking was at 11 to 1 to acquit officer porter of manslaughter which is the most serious charge. >> is that the way the deliberation sort of started on the involuntary manslaughter? did they go in there from6ñ the beginning and it was 11-1 or the product of a lot of discussion and negotiating? >> we spoke to one juror who said the process did go back and forth, that there were several additional jurors at the start of deliberations who were inclined toward finding officer porter guilty of manslaughter and that they had changed their mind by the final vote. >> is that one holdup on the not guilty -- that would
have vote guilty, is that what hung the jury? that person was not changing >> >> right. so the jury would have to be unanimous for acquittal or not guilty verdict. the lone holdout did stop an acquittal. >> there were other charges, second degree assault. it was to 2 not guilty, so two thought he was guilty. and there were two undecided. >> right. and then for the -- there was a misdemeanor reckless endangerment 7-3 not guilty for the demeanor. and also for another misdemeanor misconduct in office 10-1 not guilty. he wasner in huge risk for the felonies but he sure was for the misdemeanors? >> yes. the jury was split leaning toward conviction on misconducted in office and reckless endangerment. >> did they tell you anything about the deliberation process or what they thought about the evidence or experience serving on the jury? >> the juror we spoke to did discuss the panel members
being heart felt in their desire to take this duty seriously, to try to get to a verdict. the juror told us that there were some members of the panel who became emotional, cried, both before the dead lock and afterwards. and the sense was thatkb jury took it seriously. >> have you had any contact with the prosecutors office marilyn mosby? since this, about this? >> we reached out to both the prosecutors office and defense attorneys in the case. they all declined to comment. they are all under a gag order in the case, so they cannot talk to the press. >> kevin, thank you very much. and that's unbelievable, from a lawyer's standpoint, that's huge news hearingiñ how the jury and what the jury said. thank you, kevin. >> you're welcome. >> so, blockbuster news have any impact on officer porter's retrial and should it? the "on the record" panel is
here. ted williams and katie phang. if you found out it was 11 to 1 not guilty on involuntary manslaughter the prosecutor was going to lose. do you retry it? >> ouch. i don't know if i would. i think it's the cold hard knock of reality at marilyn mosby's door. this was her strongest case. the strongest charge against porter and is 1 to 1 vote for agility suggest if the jury was as conscious as we heard from kevin rector then i don't think another jury is going to convict him. i'm going to seriously reconsider if i'm marilyn mosby. >> ted, in my experience in trying cases, i have never known a prosecutor who has 11-1 not guilty who could dare to retry that case unless you were really on a tear to try to do something. 11 jurors spent a lot of time glib celebrating and not convinced of the most serious charge? >> absolutely, greta. this is huge news. one of the things that we, as lawyers, always want to
know is especially with a mistrial or hung jury is what was the jury thinking? is 1 to 1 on both felony cawnts. >> other one 8-2. two undecided. >> yeah. but the thing about it is mosby should want to terribly reconsider whether she wants to retry this case. greta, we are lookingy$t justice here. we are not looking at mob rule. mosby should be more about justice than trying to satisfy a mob in baltimore. >> it's a little more complicated than that if i were mosby, i don't think mosby should retry these based on these numbers. but here's what she is trying to do, which i really find appalling is that she has subpoenaed officer porter against officer goodson, giving him sort of a partial immunity which is not immunity at all, puts him at total risk. she is still dangling out there that she is going to try him. you know, what i think she should do, katie, if she really wants porter's testimony, give him total immunity so he has to
testify, but, instead, she is trying to have it both days. >> exactly. but the problem having it both ways as we have noted before and "on the record" is they took so much time during the states' case againstyu?jrj call him a liar. so even if you give him total immunity, guys, and even if he takes the stand and he takes that same oath he took during his own trial that resulted in the hung jury, how are you going to turn around and say ladies and gentlemen, you could believe what officer porter says. don't call him at all and don't use him at all. >> don't call him. she is dangling that out there and holding it against his career and putting his whole life on stall while it sits in a court of appeals. >> it's reckless. >> there is a new motion out there where the government, meaning mosby, has said that she wants porter to testify not only in the goodson case but that he may be called against all of these officers. now, what she is trying it to do is an end around porter is to be tried again in june. she is trying to porter
again first. move all of these trials back. >> political because her husband is elected and her husband is running for mayor. >> absolutely political. it smells with politicalness all the way. i mean, ms. mosby should have recused herself from this. mismosby has set up this monster. it's a frankenstein monster that i believe is going to come back to bite miss mosby. >> katie, ted, thank you both. we will see what happens as we continue to follow this. desperate search is on for 12 missing u.s. marines. update on the search is next. plus, the deadly benghazi attack now a major hollywood film. it just opened. you will never guess what donald trump is doing about only miralax hydrates, eases and softens to unblock naturally, so you have peace of mind from start to finish. love your laxative. miralax. what's going on here?
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and isis and other terror groups in the middle east, forcing millions of refugees to flea for their lives and the massive flight is overwhelming some countries. sydney mccain, the wife of senator john mccain who has a long history of humanitarian work is visiting these refugees who turkey, syria border. a short time ago cindy mccain went "on the record. >> cindy, thank you very much for joining us. >> oh, my pleasure. thank you for having me, greta. >> okay. cindy, i know you are in turkey. you have been at the it border with syria. you have dealt with refugees for many, many years. tell me what you saw, what's it like? >> well, the reason for us coming to the turkish side of this whole crisis is because we have been to the greek side, had seen the folks coming across the water in the boats.$( i thought it was important to be able to see where the smuggling actually started and we came -- we were here today. more specifically the beach called chesney, which is where the little boy washed up that we are all so
familiar with. it is a true crisis. and right now they there are over 2 million refugees inside turkey and a million more have left to go into greece. people are i do every day. >> do the people who are these refugees in turkey, do they want to go to western europe? do they want to come to the united states? or do they want to go home provided home is safe. >> they want to go home. i met with a group of students yesterday that were in their mid 20's. and they overwhelmingly said that they did not want to go on to europe. they were ready to go back in to help make their country secure and also begin a new future in their country. like everyone, it's home to them. they don't want to go into europe. >> i have been to refugee camps. it's heart breaking. it's just the most unthinkable thing. i haven't been to this one. is this what you would say a typical refugee camp? i mean, these are life and death situations for these people. >> well, some of the camps, you know, as you know are
quite large. what the turks have begun to do is not put them into camps anymore. but instead assimilate them within the communities they are assigning towns for them to go to once they register. if they have relatives in a certain town they can be placed in that town. they are a little more organized about it. it is still a terrible situation. and we are in this situation because president obama simply didn't step up to the plate when itúg)ju time. >> how does turkey sort people who are refugees from syria and sort those who are in isis who might want to slip through? what's the mechanism to try to avoid having isis come in? >> right. it's been very difficult for them. they do the best they can. you know, some of these people when they hit the ground in turkey, or when they go on to greece, for instance, as well. they will pair their passports up or whatever documents that they have. and if they are not from syria, perhaps claim they are from syria because of the status that a refugee status gives them. it's very difficult.
and the turks in my opinion are doing a great job along with we were the guest of the international rescue committee. you know, organizations ngos like that that are working very, very hard to help, it helps streamline the system and get them the kind of services that they need are doing remarkable job. it's just too many people. >> and"r i suspect that these too many people like all refugees when they left syria they just left with the clothes on their back, that's it. they are essentially now stateless. no identification, no family pictures. no books, no clothes, no nothing. they are essentially stateless people? >> exactly. exactly. you know, if the case the ones the family says taken and tore up their documentation, it's very difficult to get any further. you know, many of them are trying to get up in europe because they have relatives in europe but their intent is not to stay. it's to come back.
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same name "13 thundershowers." four americans including ambassador chris stevens were killed, murdered. how does that deadly attack play out on the silver screen? film critic kevin mccathy is live in los angeles. kevin, you saw the movie. there is a lot of controversy surrounding it but what did you think? >> yeah, good evening, greta. it's an honor to be back on with you on your show tonight. thanks for having me. directed by michael bay. huge fan armageddon and the rock and bad boys one and two. this is the most human story he has ever told. he sets aside a political agenda and really gives you the human story of these six incredible exmilitary cia contractors and told the story from their perspective on the ground that night. i really -- i was blown away by the emotional quality of being with these men and learning the selfless nature about what they did that night. that's what really, really grew on me in this film. the action, the intensity is right there. you feel like you are on the
ground with them. that's what michael bay gives you. lots of practical effects and he has you right down there on the ground. the performances are unbelievable. i thought james badgedel at tia ty woods. i gave this film a four out of five. the=< only problem was some slight editing issues. overall it's a very important film that everyone needs to see and it honors these incredible men. i had the chance to sit down with michael bay and three of the real life cia contractors to talk about what they think could have been done differently that night. and this is what they had to say. >> it shows you how close the bases were, what no one ever talks about is the flight times, f-16 from avano to benghazi, it's a 50 minute flight time.
they say they can have play time overhead 45 minutes to land on one tank of gas. this is confirmed by f-16 pilots in my presence. so i don't know what could have been done. i don't know why things didn't get done. all i know is they had a drone there. they were watching. >> instead of waiting the 25 minutes. we should have give them the that would -- the ambassador and sean smith would still be alive. >> you know, greta, i want to say one thing as an entertainment reporter i have had had a chance to cross so many amazing actors in my career sitting across those three men was one of go see the movie. it's ten nominally important film. >> kevin, thank you. always nice to have you. hope you come back. g.o.p. frontrunner donald trump using the new film to help his campaign in a clear shot at secretary hillary clinton. theater in iowa. and the billionaire is giving away tickets to the people of the hawkeye state.
live outside that theater in des moines, iowa. lauren, what's happening there? >> good evening, greta. yes. as you said they did rent out an entire theater plus seating in movie for over 100 volunteers, supporters and even veterans will be treat to do a free screening of the movie 13 hours which follows those security detail as they try and rescue people at the consulate in benghazi during the september 11th attacks in 2012. mr. trump was in iowa this morning. but he is not going to be here tonight. instead, his campaign will be hosting a caucus training meeting before the showing of the film. they will be how caucus night runs, how to vote. how to get their friends and neighbors to show up. how their speeches should go on february 1st. many of donald trump's supporters here are first-time caucus goers. so getting them trained up is going to be crucial. after that meeting which
should be wrapping here shortly, they will be treated to that showing, which on donald trump's dime which will save them $7.75 per ticket. greta? >> lauren, thank you. you have been holding down the fort for us in iowa. see you in about 10 days or less than that anyway, lauren, thank you. a week. coming up, what the left wing thinks it does but what fox business network actually does. big difference between the talk and the do. i will talk to youug off-the-record next. mucinex liquid gels 2 to 1. alka seltzer plus liquid gels. at ally bank no branches equals great rates. it's a fact. kind of like ordering wine equals pretending to know wine. pinot noir, which means peanut of the night. on location with the famous, big idaho potato truck.
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let's all go off-the-record. you know i bar duqueed the women's media center with a sizzling criticism about its recent social media campaign to ban the word foreign claiming it's not inclusive. that's about as dumb as it gets began bans the word foreign because it was not inclusive. i was embarrassed forever the women's media center. i fear it makes all women look silly. last night's fox business network debate included
three women moderators. yes, three, trish regan, sandra smith and maria baltimore. can't forget the other moderator neil cavuto. he is always a star. i want to focus on fox business network you how they showcase three smart women. no, women should not get jobs just because they are women. that makes them sexist. makes them an object. that's not how thee these women got their jobs last night. they have got them the old fashioned way, they earned them. each is experienced, smart, hard working, ask great probing questions and they were fair. good for them. they make women proud. they are great role models for all women. and that's my off-the-record comment tonight. and your live twitter voting results on your screen right now. is the cruz birther controversy a serious problem for him? yes 45%, no 55%. and, of course, never miss an episode of "on the record." set your dvr to record "on the record" so you can watch it later in the night if if you happen to miss it live.
see you again monday night right here at 7:00 p.m. eastern. up next the o'reilly factor. good night from washington and go to my gretawire and facebook page. the o'reilly factor is on. tonight. >> we don't need a weak person being president of the united states. okay? [ laughter ] >> because that's what we would get if it were jeb.g i will tell you what, we don't need that we don't need that. [crowd booing] >> did donald trump hurt or help himself in the debate last night? how about all the other candidates? talking points will assess them one by one. >> i think most people know exactly what new york values are. >> when the world trade center came down, i saw something that no place on earth could have handled more beautifully. >> trump did best cruz on the new york values issue but cruz got the donald on the canada controversy. [o