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shadow warriors project. it supports wounded american private contractors like these guys with their medical bills and other needs. and they could sure use your support. thank you for watching, everyone. i'm megyn kelly, this is "the kelly file." tonight -- >> this is a good day. >> republicans slam president obama's prisoner swap with iran. >> this deal is a really problematic deal. >> it's put a price on the head of every american abroad. >> this president lives in his own world. >> mike mccaul and former defense secretary robert gates are here tonight with reaction. then, with two weeks to go until iowa, donald trump and senator ted cruz unleash attacks on each other. >> he's a nasty guy. nobody likes him. nobody in congress likes him. >> for whatever reason donald doesn't react when he's going down in the polls. >> our political panel weighs in. and hillary clinton defends president obama's policies at
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last night's democratic debate. >> we have the affordable care act. that's one of the greatest accomplishments of president obama. >> "hannity" starts right here, right now. welcome to "hannity." tonight iran continues to take advantage of president obama at the negotiating table. over the weekend the white house announced the release of five me americans being held in iran that included pastor saeed abedini and amir hekmati. but they arranged to release seven from custody and remove others from an interpol wanted list. while we're obviously happy to get our americans back, iran got the better end of the deal and president obama and secretary of state john kerry are giving themselves a big pat on the back. >> this is a good day because once again we're seeing what's possible with strong american diplomacy i gave these families
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my word, that we'd do everything to win the release of their loved ones. and we've been tireless. on the sideline, our diplomats at the highest level including secretary kerry used every meeting to push iran to release our americans. >> we feel very comfortable that the united states of america held on to its principles, got its people home, kept faith with them. and so the question is if you're going to get them out, there had to be some component of exchange. what we gave up, we believe, were people who were about to get out anyway and people that we couldn't get our hands on. so i just don't agree. i think there is a rectitude in what we achieved. >> on top of all of that, the rogue regime in tehran will be getting access of up to $150 billion in frozen assets. my next guest says this will just help iran bankroll terrorism. joining us the author of "failures of imagination" the
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house homeland security chairman congressman mike mccaul. you said this will bankroll terrorism. i agree with you. because during negotiations the iranians were burning our flag, burning the israeli flag. they said the destruction of israel is nonnegotiable and their leaders were chanting death to america. why did the president make this deal? and what did we get out of it, if anything? >> the ayatollah said this will not change his policy towards the arrogant united states of america. i don't think we got a lot out of this deal. i'm glad the hostages came home, but the fact is we released seven criminals in exchange for american hostages and 14 at large, two of whom may have been responsible for the jewish bombing down in argentina many years ago. and as you mention $150 billion of frozen assets now freed up to go to the largest state sponsor of terror. sean, what worries me the most are $150 billion going into that
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country when we know they have active operations not only throughout the middle east where they've killed hundreds of american soldiers but also in the western hemisphere, which is one of the chapters of my book. >> not only the $150 billion, they still continue to spin their centrifuges. they've been able to partner with vladimir putin for missile defense if the israelis or the americans need to take out their nuclear sites. 24-day notice for inspections. they're not even american inspectors. and in some cases i understand they get to pick the inspectors. do you think that one day this has the potential, radical islamic mullahs of iran coupled with nuclear weapons, am i wrong in saying one and one is two, that that could be a modern-day holocaust? >> i think it's a real threat to the security of the united states of america. one of the chapters outlined in my book talks about the iranian influence with venezuela, these terror flights that go back and forth that we don't
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manifests on. then nuclear materials going across our unsecured southwest border from mexico into the united states. also as you mention, the ability to verify or inspect these facilities in iran is very much up in the air. look, this is a bad deal. and they're already firing missiles in defiance of the international law. >> -- 24 hours american sailors and had their hands behind their back. congressman, keep up the good work. thank you. now, 2016 republican presidential candidates were quick to point out that this so-called prisoner swap with iran was not a good deal and could have dangerous consequences. take a look. >> they should have come back as part of the deal three years ago when they started talking about the deal, not now. not now. >> it reflects a pattern we've seen in the obama administration over and over again of negotiating with terrorists and
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making deals and trades that endanger u.s. safety and security. >> i don't know how many more times these folks had to kick him before he realizes he's being kicked. the iranians have treated him with such enormous disrespect. >> he's put a price on the head of every american abroad. our enemies now know if you can capture an american you can get something meaningful in exchange for it. >> here with reaction is the distinguished chair of military theory at marine corps university dr. sebastian gorka is with us. good to see you. let's go to marco rubio's comment. did we now send a message to the world, take an american hostage and you'll get what you want? >> absolutely, sean. we gave away the farm for the starbucks gift card. we sent a very clear message that this nation, which is the greatest state sponsor of terrorism for the last 30 years, has carte blanche. we've removed the red warning,
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the interpol red warning on 14 people who are probably guilty of one of the biggest terror attacks in recent years. think about the fact that we had hundreds of marines that were killed in beirut by an organization trained by the irgc. in iraq our servicemen were maimed, were killed by ieds that were empowered by quds force, republican guard assistance to the local militias. we've sent a message, iran, you can get away with murder, literally, sean. >> it's really frightening. i'm happy that pastor abedini and i know that jay sekulow has worked for the release of this pastor. i've interviewed the pastor's wife and family. so i'm happy about that. but as a result are we going to have more hostages taken? >> the math of this is not just what this is all about.
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so we're doing the figures. four for seven, seven for 21, all this math has defied the point. this isn't like a spy swap on a bridge somewhere in east berlin during the cold war. we're exchanging people who are arrested and put in prison for their beliefs like the pastor for individuals who are terrorists or spies. that's not a straight deal. that is empowering the message of the theocratic regime of the mullahs, and they will draw the right conclusions that we are no longer a leader and we're giving into their message of terror. >> dr. gorka, i agree with you, sadly. thank you for being with us. also here with reaction author of the brand-new book "a passion for leadership: lessons on change and reform" from 50 years of public service robert gates is with us. an honor to have you. thank you. you said the u.s. got outnegotiated on the iran deal
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originally. you seemed to back off it, though, in a recent interview. >> i think they did get outnegotiated. for example, the administration said as late as last april that they had to have anywhere anytime inspections, and yet that was given up. we insisted for a long time on getting the history of the iranian nuclear weaponization research program, and we didn't get that. so i think that there were some -- i think it's clear that we wanted the agreement more than the iranians. >> that's never a good position to negotiate. >> that's never a good position to negotiate in. but i think as you think about the conversations you've been having, the real issue, it seems to me, as the iranians get $150 billion is the absence of a strategy of pushback from the administration to parallel this nuclear deal. where is the strategy on how we're going to invest money, how
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the weapons we're prepared to provide to our allies and friends in the region, what are we prepared to do in terms of military presence, covert action, diplomacy and so on to put back consistently against the iranians' use of this money to interfere elsewhere in the region. >> the first chapter in your book is why bureaucrats so often fail us. and to me it ought to be a prerequisite that if you're negotiating with a country and simultaneously during negotiations they're burning your flag, chanting death to your country and threatening to wipe your ally's country off the face of the maybe that's not -- maybe that ought to be a prerequisite to negotiations, butt wasn't. what we have to be able to do is walk and chew gum at the same time. we negotiated with the soviet union under president reagan but at the same time we were undergoing a major military buildup. and we were resisting them around the world in a variety of
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places, all of the meddling and interference they were trying to do. so you have to signal, if you want to limit nuclear weapons, that's one thing. but you have to show that you're prepared to deal with their actions outside of the nuclear arena wherever they occur. >> and this president did not do that. you have a very unique perspective because you served under george w. bush and barack obama. tell me the difference. i'm obviously a very strong critic of this president. i think he projects weakness. i think that without america's leadership on the world stage, i think you see the world in more chaos and decline. i think the world needs america's strength. he seems to look at american strength as somewhat of a negative. tell me the difference between the two. bring me into the mind of the p barack obama you knew. >> i have two concerns that i've written about. one is that he seems to be unwilling to trust subordinates to execute his policies.
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and so he's centralized operational activities in the white house. so under previous administrations that i worked for, there might be 40 or 50 professionals on the national security counsel staff, there are now hundreds. and i once asked the national security adviser, how many people do you have working on iraq and afghanistan. he said 25. that was half the size of the scowcroft nsc, half the size of george w. bush's or about less than -- a fraction of -- i mean it's many times the size of the nsc under george w. bush. so this micro management out of the white house was one concern. the other concern is execution. being able to make a decision and/or articulate a vision and then execute it in policy. a perfect example is the cairo speech he gave early in the administration, about here's what we're going to do in the middle east. let to a lot of euphoria, then
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nothing. there was no strategy, there was no implementation. the result was bitterness in the middle east because it was seen as hollow rhetoric. >> later he was also supporting mohamed morsi, the head of the muslim brotherhood who once referred to israelis as the descendants of apes and pigs. let me ask you this question. i am livid that after vietnam we pulled out 58 million americans died there, then this president pulls out early in mosul, tikrit and fallujah and ramadi end up in the hands of isis. it seems to me that if we're going to ask american men and women to risk their lives and shed their blood and lose their limbs, that we ought to define victory. we keep allowing politics to be seen through the -- we keep allowing war to be seen through the prism of politics. and if i'm the mother or father of a kid that lost their lives
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in one of those city, i'm saying why. do we need to change how we approach war in this country? >> i think we do. i think we need to, first of all, be -- be much more careful about when we use military force and then use it overwhelmingly. we really only won one war since world war ii, and that was the first gulf war. >> yep. >> and that was because -- >> overwhelming force. >> president bush sr. articulated specific objectives, accomplished those objectives and quit. >> are we close to the time where technology where we're not going to have to send young men door to door like we did in iraq, that we can fight and win wars with technology and not send these guys on the ground like we had to in iraq? >> no, i don't think we are. >> we aren't going to get there. >> we'll have tools that we can use, but this is why presidents have to be so careful about going to war because it always at the end of the day -- gerald
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stillwell in world war ii once said that no matter how a war starts, it always ends up in mud. that means foot soldiers. >> will we see more hostages as a result of this deal? >> well, i don't know. it's certainly a risk. >> mr. secretary, good to see you. thank you for your service for all these years. >> thank you. >> coming up next on "hannity." >> if you look what's going on throughout the world, you look at syria where if you're christian, they're chopping off heads. you look at the different places, and christianity -- it's under siege. >> donald trump speaking at liberty university earlier today while jerry falwell jr. will join us. then later tonight -- >> he's a nasty guy, nobody likes him. nobody in congress likes him. nobody likes him anywhere once they get to know him. >> do we need a leady that is prepare to do whatever is needed to keep this country safe. and that typically doesn't include spending your time on
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twitter. >> the gloves are off donald trump and ted cruz are in an all-out war of words as they battle for the top spot in iowa. we'll discuss the growing feud, the latest poll numbers and much more tonight on this busy news night on "hannity." when heartburn hits fight back fast tums smoothies starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue and neutralizes stomach acid at the source tum, tum, tum, tum smoothies! only from tums make healthy saychoices.ten but up to 90% fall short in getting key nutrients ... ... from food alone. let's do more. add one a day women's ... ...complete multivitamin. with vitamin d and calcium to help support bone health. one a day. itswhen you're engineeredct to literally to drive circles around the competition.
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we're going to protect christianity. and i can say that. i don't have to be politically correct. we're going to protect it. if you look what's going on throughout the world, you look at syria where if you're christian, they're chopping off heads. you look at the different places and christianity, it's under siege. >> that was donald trump speaking to students at liberty university in lynchberg earlier today. now trump vowed to set aside political correctness and protect christianity around the globe. here with reaction, the president of liberty university
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jerry falwell jr. it wasn't quite an endorsement but many people took it as almost one when you said you know you introduced him as one of the greatest visionaries of our time and you remained in close contact with him. does your position prevent you from endorsing? that kind of sounded like an endorsement. >> well, liberty university is a nonprofit 501-c 3 university. so of course they cannot endorse candidates and we invite all candidates to come speak. i got to know donald trump after he spoke here in 2012. i learned so much about him that the public never hears. i wanted to share that with our audience. right after he visited here last time i called him about a large christian ministry in another state that needed some help. i learned within a day or two he donated $100 hss this of his own money. he learned about clyde frasier jr. who ran the harlem hoops and was kill in the 9/11 attacks and
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te donated money to keep the tournament going. example after example of generosity that never made it into the public's eye. he got his limousine broke down one time, a couple stopped and helped him. he paid off their mortgage a few days later. these are all things that you never hear about donald trump because he comes across as sort of a tough businessman. and it just reminded me so much of my father. because my father would say make politically incorrect statements all those years and real life and his personal relationships with people he gave away so many scholarships to students at liberty he almost bankrupted the school here. he -- he was always -- >> scholarships, scholarships, and i know that's true. here's one thing people didn't know about your dad -- about the limousine story the interesting. a couple stopped to help him and
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he paid off their mortgage, that's pretty impressive. there are a lot of wealthy people that don't do things like that. >> no, i was going to say on "60 minutes" trump was watching a report about a maytag plant that moved out of iowa into mexico, and the three companies in that report, he actually searched them out. they were about to go out of business because maytag had left. and he found ways to buy products from those companies through his hotels to keep them in business. he gave them money to the local domino's pizza restaurants so they could buy cheese and bread and keep their business in business. and those are just things that i thought the world needed to know about donald trump because the bible says by their acts you will know them. he may not be a theological expert and he might say 2 corinthians instead of second corinthi corinthians, but all the people he's provided jobs, that's the true test of a person's
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christianity not whether or not they use the correct theological terms. go ahead, sean. >> these are pictures from the convocation center. i've had the honor to speak there. it's like no other. it's amazing. you see a lot of your dad in donald trump. that i think surprised a lot of people. explain. >> well, my father was criticized for supporting ronald reagan over jimmy carter because ronald reagan was a hollywood actor who had been divorced and remarried. jimmy carter was a sunday school teacher. and my father said, he said proudly that jesus said render unto caesar and that means good citizens, be voting citizens. he said when i go in the voting booth, i'm not electing a sunday school teacher or a theologian or somebody who agrees with my theological views, i'm voting for the person who is most qualified to be the president of
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the united states and the qualities that are required to be the president are not always the same ones that make a good sunday school teacher. prime example of that is jimmy carter. he was a great sunday school teacher, but look what he did to our country as president. and so those are the kind of thins that remind me of my father and trump. and i think just the personal generosity. i noticed at the debate in charleston the other night, he was the only candidate who came down off the stage and greeted the crowd personally, posed for pictures, everybody else was too important, too busy, too tired. and that's the kind of thing that, you know, we've been promised as evangelicals and conservatives, so many promises have been made to us by career politicians over the last few decades. you know, i told the crowd this morning, the polls seem to indicate, the founding fathers believed that this country should be governed by citizen legislators who think the polls are starting to indicate that the american public want to see somebody who has succeeded in
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real life. >> yeah. >> not career politicians. and i think that's why he's surging. >> does that mean he got a bigger crowd than i did at convocation, is that what you're telling me, an overflow crowd. >> not too much bigger but bigger. >> it was full. it wasn't an empty theater. >> but they loved -- they loved you, too, sean. place was full both times. >> jerry fal well jr., thanks for joining us. >> he's a nasty guy, nobody likes him. nobody in congress likes him. nobody likes him anywhere once they get to know him. >> we need a leader who is prepared to do whatever is needed to teep this country safe. it doesn't include spending your time on twitter. >> the iowa caucus is now two weeks away. the rhetoric is heating up between donald trump and ted cruz. and later tonight -- >> the fact is we have the affordable care act.
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that is one of the greatest accomplishments of president obama, of the democratic party and of our country. >> all right. the fourth boring democratic debate is in the books and hillary clinton spent most of the night defending the president and his terrible policies. that will be what, another, third obama term? play that straight ahead. . then your rates . go through the roof. perfect. for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise your rates due to your first accident. liberty mutual insurance. wdo you insist on being called the taxonator? then you might be gearcentric. right now, buy any tax software and get a $100 service bundle for free! office depot officemax. gear up for great ®. have my stomach feeling all knotted up. i've tried laxatives... but my symptoms keep returning. my constipation feels like a pile of bricks...
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the country. very nasty guy. then he got caught the other day in a tape when he was raising funds at a law office talking about things that are priorities and not priorities. >> do you think he's a hypocrite? >> he's a total hypocrite. >> senator cruz fired back with this earlier today. >> donald did an interview where he described that he thinks he's bigger than ronald reagan. i think the american people will make that determination. you know, i would note that ronald reagan spent decades as a principled conservative. spent decades traveling the country sharing his conservative free market views defending the constitution. ronald reagan did not spend the first 60 years of his life supporting democratic politicians, advocating for big government politics. we need a leader who is prepared to do what is ever needed to keep this country safe and that typically doesn't include spending your time on twitter.
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>> all right, here now with reaction from the national review, jonah goldberg and fox news senior correspondent geraldo rivera and from the "washington times" fox news contributor monica crowley. i wish this didn't happen every election, but if we're going to be real, go back to 2000 and george bush and john mccain in south carolina. it was brutal. i don't like it. conservatives are getting angry at trump because they like ted cruz. it's different than, quote, an establishment candidate. what do you think of this back and forth? >> well, you've got two alpha males who are going at it like two scorpions in a bottle. i thought it would behoove both of them to keep their alliance going for as long as possible because they could have helped each other. >> 14 days, monica, and it's over. >> trump could have gotten more conservative, traditional conservatives from cruz, but they are in a competition and only one can win. and whereas ted cruz needs to win iowa, donald trump wants to win iowa. and so i expect that from here on out it's only going to get more intense.
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>> it seems to me that they're trying to label the other guy the hypocrite. he's saying, you know, look at ted cruz, he's not even an american. he's born in canada. not only that, he says he's going to regulate banks or take on banks and he takes money from goldman sachs. >> he didn't take money. he borrowed money. >> borrowed money. but i really think ted cruz does have a nasty streak. maybe because i'm inheritly supportive of donald trump. but ted cruz, why is it that nobody likes him in the united states senate? >> i'll give you the answer. because he's the one guy who stood up and took on his own party. >> closing down the government. >> no, he was going to fulfill a campaign promise, geraldo. let me go to jonah. i actually tweeted out earlier i don't apologize for support iin nurjt candidates. the republicans in many ways
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create this insurgency. >> i think there's truth to that. the whole chaos we're going through is largely the function of the years of failures structurally among the establishment or whatever you want to call it. that's absolutely true. at the same time, look, almost all of these credit sichs that donald trump is making of ted cruz are hypocritical of him to make. the idea that donald trump plays well with others is kind of undermined by the last six months that we've seen him in these races. he always goes for the cheap low blow. he compared ben carson to a pedophile or something. the idea that somehow donald trump is saying that ted cruz has a nasty streak? >> here's the flip side of it, monica, if you get in a general election with hillary, do you want the guy that's going to fight her hard? and he's already shown he is willing to take her on and the clns on in a way that nobody else will. >> you want somebody who has been deep in the competition, who has absorbed punches from their own side so they're more prepared to take punches frommer to side. whether the democratic candidate
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is hillary clinton or, joe biden or somebody else, you want a candidate who is prepared, who knows how to dish it and to take it -- dish it out and take it. both ted cruz and donald trump are in that position now. i'm with you. we don't like to see conservatives or republican candidates beating each other up, but this is presidential politics. i'd rather see it now -- >> you were fine with it when donald trump was doing it to everybody else. all of a sudden you don't like these guys attacking each other. >> they can take care of themselves. >> but the difference is, jonah, is that i think conservatives are like ted cruz more than they do some of these establishment guys. >> no, i think that's true, sure. that's absolutely fine. and the people who are lining up behind trump were also lining up behind ted cruz for a very long time. now all of a sudden, and i understand geraldo's enjoying this because this is sort of like the iran/iraq war, he's like the mullahs. >> come on, jonah, geez.
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>> that's when henry kissinger said he hopes they both lose. trump has the only chance really against the demographic headwinds that the republican candidate faces of getting -- >> i think he opens up -- >> the charisma. >> i think african-americans might if trump stays on this crazy immigration thing, see in his policies some kind of salvation in terms of -- >> but does he put new jersey and pennsylvania in play? >> i think he puts in play a lot of people, a lot of reagan democrats. >> can cruz do that? >> chris christie did it, why not donald trump. >> i think ted cruz. >> i don't know. >> comes down to trump and cruz. then you have a different dynamic going into -- >> you're right. >> -- from a general. >> we've got to roll. guys, good to see you. >> i was there when ted cruz was begging for money right here in manhattan. coming up next right here on "hannity" -- >> the fact is we have the affordable care act. that is one of the greatest
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accomplishments of president obama, of the democratic party and of our country. >> her highness, hillary clinton did her best to defend prb prbs's disastrous policies at last night's democratic debate. in case you didn't see it, we'll play you the tape. remember back in 2001 when president clinton pardon the billionaire mark rich? peter schweizer is here and he says that continues to pay big time for bill and hillary.
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week to repeal the affordable care act. and thank goodness president obama vetoed it and saved obamacare for the american people. well, i'm very proud of the iran nuclear agreement. i was very pleased to be part of what the president put into action. i'm going to defend dodd/frank and i'm going to defend president obama for taking on wall street, taking on the financial industry and getting results. >> oh, boy. here with reaction fox news contributor democratic pollster doug schoen and democratic strategist least is a boothe. hillary was asked, i'm asking this for a question, is she sucking up to obama because she wants a third obama term or maybe she wants some help with the fbi. she was asked that question yesterday has she spoken with the fbi? >> the status of the investigation, have you been
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interviewed by the fbi yet? >> no. >> you haven't. all right. secretary clinton, thanks so much. really appreciate your time. good luck with the debate tonight. >> okay. then the most googled question on hillary clinton during the debate was this -- will hillary get prosecuted? it's a big deal. is that why she's embracing obama or does she really want a third obama term? >> we also know that the fbi have expanded the scope of the investigation into public corruption charges looking at the intersection between the clinton foundation and her time as secretary of state. but let's think about it for a moment of what she's defending here. under president obama, we've seen a record number of food stamps, a record number of americans that are either unemployed or underemployed. >> in poverty. >> in poverty. and more businesses than ever that are going under. so that's exactly what she's defending here. let's look also at what has happened on president obama's watch. democrats as a result of clear policies like obama care have lost 13 senate seats, 69 house
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seats. >> and 9. >> 900 legislative seats. >> can i offer a different explanation? hillary is deeply worried about losing iowa and new hampshire. her firewall are african-americans particularly in south carolina. hence the defense of obama to solidify the black vote which she will need if she loses -- >> okay. but as she wraps herself around the obama persona, that's going to kill her in the general election. >> she was his secretary of state, sean. she doesn't have much choice. >> i know. i would think at this point she probably wants some distance. >> not when she needs his constituency to get nominated in an increasingly tight democratic primary. >> what do you think? >> what we're seeing is hillary clinton is flat lining. if you actually look at the trend lines of polling comparatively speaks to 2008, she's in worse shape heading into iowa and new hampshire. >> so you're agreeing with me. >> i am agreeing with you.
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i think she's in trouble. the majority of americans do not trust her. >> bernie sanders is an angry old socialist curmudgeon from new jersey -- from vermont. i could never see this guy president. >> that's what's happened to the democratic party and why people like me who are capitalists and moderates really don't have a in a left wing democratic party. so you're voting for trump or cruz? >> i'm increasingly moving to the center. i would probably vote for hillary against trump or cruz, but i like donald trump. i think cruz made a -- i think cruz made a bad mistake dividing on so-called new york values. >> it may help him in iowa. >> but the same thing you say hillary's doing, hurt him overall. >> hillary clinton can't even separate the democratic party from socialists. >> she doesn't know what the difference is. >> she doesn't know what the difference is because is there a difference right now. >> she does know. the problem the democratic party has moved socialism.
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welcome back to "hannity." so another one of bill clinton's scandals from his troubled presidency is coming back to haunt hillary clinton's run for the white house. in an article for the new york post exposing how the clintons benefitted from bill's presidential pardon of international fugitive, mark grin rich, but but his business partners, lawyers, advisers and friends have showered millions of dollars on the clintons in the decade and a half following the scandal. the the government accountability institute. you talked a lot about the money
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coming in from countries that have atrocious womens' rights records. and you have mark rich, explain this. >> if you remember the mark rich scandal, mark rich was on the fbi's ten most wanted list. bill clinton on his last day in office pardoned him. a lot of people were shocked and surprised and the investigation found up denise rich, mark rich's ex-wife had written large checks to the clinton foundation and democratic party. what we found in researching the donation since that pardon is that flow of cash for people continued. bill clinton said this was a mill mistake. it has not been a financial one. they have reaped a lot of financial rewards for what they did for mark rich. >> this is a guy who traded
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illegally with america's enemies including the. >> i ayatollah. this is not a good guy. this is a guy selling oil to the apartheid regime in south africa. we reached out to the clinton, and they didn't respond. >> mark rich was a bad, bad dude. and all of the things trading with the ayatollah, south africa, after the 2001 pardon, it came out after the fact he was continuing in his bad ways. he was implicated in the oil for food scandal. so it's not like this is a guy repenting for what he had done. yet, the clintons have taken a $1 billion pledge from his long
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time business partner and taking money from his lawyers and from all sorts of people directly connected to mark rich. it just indicates that they're willing to take money from anyone. >> hutch money are we talking about? >> it's hard to say. they reveal the contributions in ranges but it's certainly more than $10 million. there is a $1 billion with, a b pledge that mark rich's long time business partner made. we don't know how much has been honored but it's a large sum of money. and there are still a thousand contributor that's have if he ever been disclosed and those are people from the industry. and there is a possibility that there are more is out there. >> is it fair to say countries like saudi arabia and others that donated to the clinton
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foundation bought hillary's silence? >> yes. it's a good question. i get asked this a lot. and i think there are two ways. one is payment for services rendered. right? a pardon takes place, we're going to take care of you. we're going to continue to provide you with funds. so both of those are in play. and involved really bad people. >> all right. thank you, appreciate it, peter. when we come back, we need your help, our question of the day. you think you're doing all you can
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