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digit than billo' o' if you wish to opine. tomorrow, ted cruz on the "factor." miss megyn is next. thank you for watching. spin stops here. see you torch. breaking tonight after nearly a year of campaigning and debating, attacks and rebuts, rising and falling political fortunes. we're now exactly seven days away from the first votes cast in the race to select the next president of the united states. exciting. but first, the republican candidates face one final test. that could change everything. the last debate before voting begins is this thursday night. the fox news google debate in awhat. good evening, everyone, welcome to "the kelly file." i'm megyn kelly. we have brand new fox polls and analysis out of iowa. in the top three, businessman donald trump surging back to the lead of the pack. overtaking senator ted cruz who fell back to second. then in third, senator marco
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rubio. this weekend, mr. trump spoke about the strength and loyalty of his supporters. >> the people, my people are so smart. you know what else they say about my people, the polls, they say i have the most loyal people. did you ever see that? where i could stand in the middle of 5th avenue and shoot somebody and i wouldn't lose any voters, okay? it's, like, incredible. >> also on saturday, senator cruz received his most anticipated endorsement yet from one of the most influential conservative voices in the country, glenn beck. >> for the first time in 40 years of broadcast, i have found a man that i know i can look into his eyes and his word is his bond. that's why today i have officially endorsed ted cruz. [ cheers and applause ] why i've officially endorsed ted cruz to become the first hispanic-american president.
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>> in moments we'll be joined by mr. beck who also had choice words for trump this weekend then a trump supporter will be here to respond. but first, a breakdown of the state of the race. chris stirewalt is our fox news digital politics editor in iowa where we're holding our debate on thursday. howard kurtz is the host of media buzz. how is the site looking for it, ready for us? >> it's easter and i'm the bunny. this feels really good. i'm glad we're here. >> let's talk about what happened. it's an extraordinary swing from what we saw, put the numbers on the board. donald trump, 34%, 11 points over ted cruz. look where it was just, what, less than, you know, couple weeks ago where ted cruz had a four-point margin over, well, yeah, four-point margin over donald trump and now completely flipped plus trump has gained
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and he's up 11 points now. chris, how does it happen? >> well, look, obviously the trump attacks were part of it, but i think another part of it is this. this is what iowa does. this is iowa's jam. >> it's a fickle bunch? >> this is how -- well, like this, last time four years ago, ron paul was the guy, he had iowa, everybody wrote the story about the coming libertarian revolution and blah, blah, blah, blah, and said rick santorum who from pennsylvania? he shot up to the top. iowa breaks late, iowa decides late and iowa doesn't like to be told what to do. these folks are chewing on this real good. >> howie, when you look at the internals of this poll, donald trump shored up his numbers with white evangelicals and with those describing themselves as very conservative. and that helps explain some of the gains he made versus just a couple of weeks ago. how is it the attack, you know, saying cruz took money from banks, is it the sarah palin endorsement? what do you think it is? >> i think it's the fact that he stayed in the holiday inn
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express in iowa. >> that's how -- >> and he went to church. right. the attacks have been relentless. he had cruz on the defensive talking about being born in canada. he had him -- he's out now calling him a nasty guy and all of that. sure, people are making up their minds late as they always do in the iowa caucuses. trump's so confident -- i interviewed him the other day, he said, you know, african-americans are going to like me more than they like barack obama. that's the guy who's really feeling it. but there's one cloud over these trump numbers and that is you look at the internals, nearly half of those who are trump supporters in the state of iowa right now would be first-time caucusgoers. who knows how many of them will actually show up. >> show up and stay there. chris, all along we've been looking at two presumed leans toward this, the establishment lean and the so-called insurgent or outsider lean and cruz and trump have been battling in that second lane. as he seems to be inching closer to winning a couple of these states, trump sounds like he
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doesn't have quite the messaging down when it comes to who he is. in which lane he really wants to participate in. listen here. >> i think they're -- i want to be honest, i have received so many phone calls from people that you would call establishment, from people generally speaking conservatives, republicans, that want to come to our team. the establishments, the media, the special interest, the lobbyists, the donors. they're all against me. i'm self-funding my campaign. i don't owe anybody anything. i only owe it to the american people to do a great job. they are really trying to stop me. everybody knows it. everybody sees it. we're going to win. >> so that comes out after he's up there saying, you got to go -- they're calling me, just last friday he said something you got to go a little establishment. your thoughts? >> i think trump is now thinking in terms of running the table, winning every race, acclimation
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nomination, and if he can take his supporters, now, we talk about first-time caucusgoers. you know, when we look at past caucuses, we're talking eight or nine out of ten caucusgoers have caucused before, not a lot of new blood comes in. trump's got a big bet. he can bring a lot of democrats into the process. a lot of independents into the process. create these new voters. then if he could partner up with establishment figures who prefer him over cruz, who would just be a told wrecking ball for them and they know it, if he could create this synergy, then he would have sort of the conservative wing of the party that we thought of as the republican base for a long time. he'd have them in a vice grip between these new voters, independents, democrats, and some republicans, plus an establishment group and that would be pretty tough to beat. >> what do we know, howie, about trump's ability to get folks out to the caucuses which can be a lengthy process? not necessarily getting there, but caucusing. >> well, he's got an organization in iowa. i don't think it's as strong as cruz's organization and perhaps some of the others. the other hand, clearly the
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people who really like donald trump are very nomotivated. that's how he's drawing thousands and thousands of people to these rallies. you hit on a real important wrinkle there, megyn, trump now does seem to be not denying that he'd like to be the establishment candidate. i asked him about that. i said, cruz says you're the establishment candidate and he didn't deflect it. he mentioned bob dole, ultimate figure of the old republican establishment who's been -- >> bob dole loves the establishment. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> thanks. >> trump who's run against the establishment this whole year and sarah palin to vouch for him with the conservatives. he's broadening a little bit perhaps looking beyond iowa wanting to not just be in that anti-establishment -- >> before we go, sire waltirewa you had to predict who's going to win iowa, if you had to? >> this debate is going to be a big, bang, boom. >> i forgot there's a debate first. >> this whole sucker is going to rerack on thursday evening because the stakes are high and
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the losers, as some people would say, in this race, know that they're facing the double elimination round and people are going to act crazy, unpredictable things are going to happen. it's going to get weird in there. this race will look totally different, i promise, on friday, than it does today. >> can't wait. we are all very psyched for thursday night. we are ready. and looking forward to it. guys, great to see you. >> same here. >> you bet. >> see you both in des moines. up next in a "kelly file" exclusive, the story behind a key presidential endorsement from one of the most well-known conservatives in the united states. >> the time for silliness and reality show tactics is past. it's been fun. >> glenn beck is here on his first ever pick for president and the backlash he's already seen as a result. plus, karl rove on the race for iowa and why he says it's likely to be a wild ride in the final stretch. plus new reaction tonight to a texas grand jury's decision to
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i can't believe i actually have to say this, but for the first time in a long time, the press was right. i am here to announce that i am officially endorsing ted cruz to become the first hispanic president of the united states. >> breaking tonight, ted cruz getting a historic endorsement from one of the most iconic k n conservative voices in the country, glenn beck taking to the campaign trail in iowa saturday throwing his support behind a presidential candidate for the first time in nearly 40 years of broadcasting. and with most experts suggesting the gop race may be down to just two candidates, in particular, in iowa, mr. beck's endorsement of one of those men came with a lengthy and repeated warning about the other.
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>> mr. trump i over and over again on the road, i will make america great again. i will make america great. that's not true. it's not even possible. each of us, as individuals, living our own dreams, making our own way, charting our own course, that is what makes america great. [ cheers and applause ] anything else, anything else is faith in self and it is empty, it's the human ego, it is arrogant, and it is dangerous. >> glenn beck is the founder of the blaze and a number one "new york times" bestselling author of "the immortal nicholas." glenn, it's great to see you. why now after 40 years did you
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feel compelled to come out and endorse a candidate? >> couple reasons, megyn, i've never endorsed anybody for any office at all mainly because half my career nobody cared. the second half, i never wanted to put my name on somebody. my credibility, i've worked hard for, and i don't -- i'm not going to put my name on some guy and have him go to washington and not be that guy. ted cruz i have watched and i told him, you know, four years ago when he went into the senate, i said, you know, i don't know if i trust you, you say all the good things, but if you go to washington i'm going to be your worst nightmare if you start to be a weasel. and i've watched him closely and he has not. he has done the tough thing. he has been, you know, david against goliath in his own party, against other party, in the media. nobody will stand with this guy, and yet he's never backed down from the fight. he says, i believe it, this is what i said i would do, i'm going to do these things. >> you know his detractors including donald trump see that as not necessarily a positive. trump calls him a nasty guy who
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can't get along with anyone. called him a whack job. said he tells lies and is using his inability to get along with people in washington as a negative in terms of getting things done. >> here's the part. donald trump said this weekend that he is going to -- look, he has to cut deals and we have to be part of the establishment. i'm quoting him. i'm going to have to be part of the establishment to be able to get things done. that's the problem. that's what stopped me with rand paul. i love rand paul, but when he made a deal with mitch mcconnell, i didn't know if i could trust him. people are tired of deal making. especially when it's not rooted in something. so, the second reason i decided to endorse ted cruz is "a," i believe him, but the second thing is i really truly believe, i have a very long record and people made fun of me when i said the caliphate was coming. they said it was absurd and would never happen. megyn, i feel strongly about
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this, there are a lot of great people in the republican party you could vote for, a lot of them, and that i could vote for. donald trump is not one of them, and the next guy who comes into office is going to finish the fundamental transformation that was started by woodrow wilson and accelerated through barack obama. we're headed for real trouble. islamic trouble, economic trouble, and civil unrest in the next four, five years. this next president is going to either finish and we're going to become a nation where the pen and the phone are the way to rule, or we're going to have somebody who has the constitution in their bones and they're going to repoint this cornerstone and set it right and give us a new start. >> why, why do you -- obviously donald trump is the front runner by a lot. >> i know. >> and so conservatives are backing him to some extent. moderates are backing him to some extent. and the country, the gop, does not feel the way you do. how did you get to this sort of
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divide where you're over here and most these republicans are over here? >> because i've always been that guy. i mean, you know, megyn, when i was working there, i was always kind of the guy who's out. >> but we loved you. >> i know. and i've always loved you. but i've always been the guy who is kind of going and marching to my own tune. and i'm, you know, the one thing i do know are progressives. if there's anything i know, it's a progressive, and this is a very dangerous thing, and i warned -- when i was on fox, i did several episodes on the fact -- this is why i've only spoken at cpac one time and they ever invited me back because i said the progressive cancer started from the republicans and it is in your own party. and i tried to warn on fox, i did a show -- the biggest one you could remember is the one
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where i did with the pendulum and i said here's barack obama, he's pulled it back so far, it's going to swing the other way and unless you root yourself in the constitution, when that swings back, you're going to have another guy with a pen and with a phone and he's going to do bad things. >> why would you believe that about trump? i mean, what he says is i am a deal maker, an executive, i'm worth several billion dollars and have a history of proving i can get things done, that i win, as he puts it. >> that's not -- that's great for a ceo, but that's not the job of a president. the president -- first of all, does not create jobs. he doesn't jam things down your throat. the president is not supposed to rule by dictate or edict or executive power. he is supposed to make sure that the government acts and behaves the way it's supposed to. when he raises his hand, i will protect and defend the constitution of the united states. when we head into trouble, and trouble is coming, you want a guy who says, look -- i mean,
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let me say this. we have lindsey graham on record saying i don't have a problem with the nsa spying because, you know what, we're at war. we have, i think it was john mccain who said, you know, i love freedom of speech, but, you know, there's times that that has to be curbed. you have barbara mikulski talking about the second amendment and she said just last week, don't talk to me about this constitution, let's get this done. >> it is irritating at times, isn't it? >> you got to root it in the constitution. >> i want to stop you there. we have much more to discuss with glenn as you can hear, including the attacks that have come down against him since this announcement became public and his thoughts on another endorsement that occurred last week, that of sarah palin for donald trump. stay tuned. >> glenn beck, be on my show, be on my show. every time i see him, he's a weird guy. he's always crying. he's a weird dude. introducing metris, the mid-size van from mercedes-benz. it's got small-ability and big-ability.
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glenn beck's endorsement of ted cruz and pointed attacks on tr donald trump have been reverberating for days. he had plenty to say about senator cruz. responding the very same day that glenn beck hit the campaign trail. >> glenn beck, he'd call me, will you be on my show? it wasn't that i didn't want to do his show. i'm so busy. i wasn't able to do it. i wouldn't do his show. he got very hostile. i didn't want to deal with it. his show is failing. he's always crying. i like cryers a little bit, but not that much. i think crying is fine. i see this guy, he's a sad sap and he cries. >> back with us now, glenn beck. >> the crying part is true, but i called him after months of saying that he was a horrible candidate, and i didn't -- our producer called him once at the end of august and then the first week i think of september, he said that if i wanted him on, i would have to personally call him and they wouldn't make an appointment for me. i just had to try to catch him. i said i'm not playing that game. so we only offered him one time,
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we called him twice, only offered him a chance to come on because i thought it was a little unfair to say these things and all i wanted to ask was what's your pivot point? you say you were diehard for abortion including partial-birth abortion, and now you're not. i can understand that. i can understand people -- i believe in redemption and changing your mind. i've changed my mind on things. tell me what your pivot point was. >> he has a story about that about someone he knew who had the baby and changed his views on abortion. she grew up to be a terrific kid. >> a little bit. it doesn't -- >> you're looking for -- obviously he's changed his position on -- >> on almost everything. >> many issues. >> almost everything. >> you're saying to believe it you would need to see some type of life transformation. >> what happened, look, everybody unction understands - misthemihey, come on in, tell me how to change my life and start living a different lifestyle? my life is sweet. why would i change it? when people are distressed and
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in trouble, that's when they have true transformations. if a guy has lived a progressive lifestyle his whole life, he doesn't like guns, he's for abortion, he's for universal health care. last year he was saying that we should have universal health care and the government should pay for everything. >> you know, people know all this and they don't mind. and it's what's been surprising to so many has been sarah palin's endorsement because she and you used to sound very much the same on these issues. you know, sort of tea party-esque, small government, out of your business, completely pro-life. would never endorse somebody who, you know, was wobbly on that or the second amendment or any of these issues. and yet she came out full throttle for him last week. full throttle. may have been helping. now he's up 11 points in iowa according to the latest fox news poll over ted cruz. >> i can't speak for sarah palin. i mean, i like sarah palin. i disagree with her strongly. i don't know what happened to her. you know, i don't know. i really don't know. i know i haven't changed my
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position. and it's not personal. it is based on the constitution and i'm so -- i'm so vocal about this because i feel the same way i did about the caliphate. nobody listened to me on the caliphate. the time to worry about the caliphate was when i was talking to it. now the caliphate is a reality. the time to deal with a progressive in the republican party is right now. >> what do you envision? if donald trump wins this nomination and, in fact, could win the presidency, what do you envision? >> let me ask you a question. megyn, have you ever heard anyone talk about his supporters or talk about, to say, i can go on 5th avenue and shoot people and my supporters are not going to move. does that bother you as a journalist? >> that was a snew one. >> okay. when he said a month ago, you know, who is it that putin has shot? they say that he's shot all these journalists. you know, and i'd never shoot journalists. even though i hate -- >> what he said to jeff
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scarborough was our country's killed a lot of people, too. >> no, no, he actually said from the stage, i'll never kill a journalist. well, no, i'd never kill a journalist. he says he was joking and i think he was joking, but do you really think that that's appropriate to joke? i mean, i think this guy is such a narcissist that it spells trouble when you give him this much power. again, say these things -- i have nothing to gain and everything to lose, this guy black balls and plays hard ball. i get it. i'm a big boy. i can take all the punches and look at me. there's lots of things to make fun of. >> ah. i think the crying is kind of sweet. i liked it in john boehner. i admire it in you. i'm the same. >> the thing is, this isn't about me, it isn't about donald trump. it's about our country and the constitution. i will protect and defend the constitution of the united states. that's what i've always been for, and this, i believe, is our last opportunity to set things
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right. when trouble comes, just like in world war 2 would you round up japanese people? i know i wouldn't. when people are afraid, when they're hungry or we're at war, they'll violate all kinds of principles. let's not start with a guy who doesn't know the principles. >> glenn, always great to see you. >> good to talk to you. >> glenn beck, everybody. >> thank you. so, what do trump supporters think about all this? well-known attorney and big trump fan, david wall, is here to react next. plus, with iowa's track record for dramatic surprises, what should we expect one week from today? karl rove is here with his magic whiteboard. next. fact. when emergency room doctors choose an otc pain reliever for their patients muscle, back and joint pain. the medicine in advil is their #1 choice. nothing is stronger on tough pain than advil. relief doesn't get any better than this. advil.
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constitution. i will protect and defend the constitution of the united states. that's what i've always been for, and this, i believe, is our last opportunity to set things right. when trouble comes, just like in world war ii, would you round up japanese people? i know i wouldn't. but when people are afraid, when they're hungry, or we're at war, they'll violate all kinds of principles. let's not start with a guy who doesn't know the principles. >> that was glenn beck moments ago on the reasons that he is against donald trump becoming the next president of the united states. much less the gop nominee. here to respond, attorney and trump supporter, david wall. so you are 100% pro-trump, david. good to see you. >> good to see you, megyn. >> before this dustup with the endorse theme endorseme endorsements, did you like glenn beck? >> i did. there was a point in time i did like glenn beck. he's right about the caliphate thing. he predicted that before anyone else did. he was dead on. >> let me start with that.
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this endorsement he's given cruz and the criticism he gives trump do for you? >> neither here nor there, megyn. i mean, honestly, i think if anything it's going to bolster trump's support even more. >> like everything. >> i don't know that he really -- pardon? >> like everything does. >> well, everything. he's the teflon donald, megyn. everything you go to attack him directly or indirectly increases his support. >> why? why is that? >> i don't think there's anything that can be done about that. i think, you know, trump's platform is one thing. i think beck ignores it to a large extent. he's pro-second amendment, he wants to defund planned parenthood. he wants to keep the mortgage interest rate deduction. he wants -- >> his point -- >> he wants to stop immigration from -- >> his point -- let me just respond. >> go ahead. >> his point wasn't that those weren't trump's current positions. his point was not long ago he had the opposite positions. i didn't see the pivot point, he said. what in his life would explain major shifts on such issues? >> ted cruz was for amnesty before he was against it.
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ronald reagan was a democrat before he was a republican. barack obama was against gay marriage before he was for it. it's part of the political evolution and trump is going through that now. when he says what he says, and he tells people this is my position on things, people believe him. he's a sledgehammer that transcends politics, megyn. that's what's so amazing about him that i've never seen in a political candidate ever. i've been voting for 36 years -- >> you don't have to tell us. just for the record, ted cruz has never supported citizenship. there's a debate about whether he supported legalization. let me ask you this, because trump as we mentioned in the other segment, he's getting a little close to the line on whether he really is establishment. how does he really feel about the establishment? this is what i'm referring to. i'm curious to your reaction. watch. >> you know what, there's a point at which let's get to be a little establishment, we got to get things done, folks, okay? believe me, doenlts don't worry. we're going to make such great deals. >> what do you think of that?
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>> i believe he negotiates. in donald trump's history, look at his negotiation, he comes out on top. that's the critical issue. the republicans have owned the house and senate for years now and all they've done is got down on their knees and say, whatever you want, mr. obama. that is what's fueling this pro-trump fire. people are so sick and tired of it. >> how big of a factor trump does not care about being p.c.? >> that's huge. i mean, let's face it. political correctness, the idea that barack obama has pretty much downplayed the first amendment and its importance, there's nothing bigger at this point, megyn. he goes in, says what he says and he's like, you don't like it, too bad, get out of my lecture, get out of my hall, i don't care. people love that right now. it's been something that i think this tyranny of political correctness has really gotten into people's minds and really -- people want to get rid of that. >> it feels like a way to send a message to you, feels like a way to send a message to the sort of smothering you feel you've had. >> it's huge, megyn.
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that's it. you can't say this, you can't say that. all these groups, these militant groups that have arisen and say if you say that, we'll get you fired. i talked to a deputy today in court in los angeles where i was. he said, you know what, i can't say anything in court. if i say something, i'm overheard by an attorney or social worker, they'll let my superior know and i'll be fired for it and i'm talking about relatively innocuous stuff. >> the security guards are not supposed to be doing the talking. the lawyers like you are supposed to be doing the -- in the court's defense. david wall is paid to go in there and do the talking. point taken. i understand. good to see you. >> good to see you. if history is any indication, america should not expect that next week's vote results will necessarily look like this week's poll results. karl rove is a fox news contributor. he served as senior adviser to president george w. bush as well as deputy chief of staff. karl, good to see you. george w. bush won iowa in 2004. right? it was one of the only two times in the past, like, 30 years iowa
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has ever accurately predicted the gop nominee. >> well, i would say it was 2000 that he won, not 2004. there were no caucuses in iowa in 2004. but, yeah, in fact, he's the only republican to win iowa, win the nomination, and win the presidency. >> so why is iowa not so great at predicting on the republican side, they're pretty good on the dem side, who the nominee will be? >> well, they're not that good on the dem side in picking winners in the general election. the only two times that that's happened, 1976 with jimmy carter and 2012 with barack obama. they tend to pick the democratic nominee but don't necessarily pick the winner in the general election. look, on the republican side it's because the state caucus, the caucus in iowa tends to be nominated by social conservatives, particularly from western iowa, and as a result, they tend to favor candidates who are evangelical social conservatives. pat robertson, mike huckabee, rick santorum, all of them ran particularly well and took the iowa caucuses as a result.
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>> so what does history show us? are they late deciders in iowa? is there a huge faction that decides late? >> well, it looks like everybody decides late. if you take 2012 and the exit polls, 46% of the people said that they made up their minds either on the day of the election, itself, the day of the caucus, itself, basically one out of every five caucusgoers decided that day -- >> wow. >> -- and nearly, and nearly one out of two, 46% made up their minds in the last three days. so you're going to be at the debate thursday night, auspicious as it is that night, because sometime friday, early saturday morning, is apparently when nearly one out of every two voters, if it looks like last time and the time before that, one out of every two voters will make up their minds in that last weekend. >> when you look at the polls, do you say i don't look at these polls, or do you say, no, you know, overall, you know, taking in the agating the aggregate, d predictor. >> we have to decide whether it's 2008 or 2012. >> hold the whiteboard. >> here's the whiteboard.
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i knew you were waiting for it. 2008. mike huckabee won. and he led going in in the final days. eight days out. he was leading and on election day got 5.4% more than he was in the real clear politics average as of the time that we are today. mitt romney got .8 of a percent less. john mccain jumped from fifth into third by getting 1.5 more. and fred thompson dropped 4.1 points and dropped from third into fourth. but pretty much not very much movement. 2012, big difference. rick santorum gained between eight days out and the election day, itself, the close of the caucuses, he gained 16.7 points compared -- nearly 17 points compared to his number in the real clear politics average. mitt gained 3.5, stayed in second. ron paul fell out of first, dropped .7 of a percent and newt gingrich dropped a point. excuse me, newt dropped out of first place and rand paul dropped into third from being second.
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so, you know, it depends on what kind of year it's going to be. my gut is it's probably somewhere in between, but if i were having to bet, i'd say it looks more like 2008 than it does 2012. >> i got to go, i want to ask you quickly, "des moines register" yesterday endorsed rubio on the republican side, hillary on the dem side. does that matter? >> yeah, it does. and i think it will help rubio with the kind of voters that he's looking for and i think it will help hillary better that she got it than bernie sanders got it. but it doesn't have a big effect. it just has a minimal effect. it will probably be enough to guarantee that rubio is in third. and where he is in the polls today solidifies that position all likelihood. >> karl, great to see you. >> you bet, thank you. >> mark your calendars now. the next and final gop debate before the iowa caucus is this thursday, january 28th, at 9:00 p.m. right here on the fox news channel. yours truly will be moderating the debate alongside brett baer and chris wallace. it is the republican candidates
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ae last chance to make their appeal to voters before the february 1st caucus. do not miss the fox news google gop debate thursday night at 9:00. well, we also have new fallout over a grand jury's decision to bring criminal charges in the planned parenthood video case. remember this? where the guy went in, this group, they took these videos and they alleged that planned parenthood was trying to sell body parts of babies? guess who's in trouble with the law. not the abortion providers. judge naps is here. plus the latest round of polls sounding new alarms for the clinton campaign in some circles. ed henry reports live from iowa. plus kirsten powers has news from mrs. clinton as more and more voters say they feel the bern. whatcha doin? just prepping for my boss' party in a couple weeks. what are those? crest whitestrips. they whiten way better than paste.
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developing tonight, with just one week to go before iowa, polls on the democratic side of the presidential race are tightening up. a brand new fox news poll finds hillary clinton's national lead has narrowed to its slimmest margin yet, 12 points ahead of bernie sanders nationally. last june mrs. clinton held a commanding 46-point lead over sanders. this come z at the democrats square off at a town hall. ed henry reports from des moines. >> reporter: no bigger momentum for bernie sanders, what's hamening on the ground in the hawkeye state. as you can see from this new fox poll fresh out tonight, she's only leading by six points. margin of error about four
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points. this is almost a dead heat. look at new hampshire. the clinton campaign has been discounting that a little bit because bernie sanders is from neighboring vermont but he's now opened up a massive 22-point lead. there's fear in the clinton camp tonight that bernie sanders could win both of these early contests and really shake up this race. he's doing it by running an outsider campaign with a lot of passion, but hillary clinton has been falling back on her resume. listen. >> what the political revolution is about is having people stand up and say, enough is enough. >> i have the experience and understanding to be able to chart a course that will not only keep us safe at home, but keep our world more secure and more prosperous and peaceful. >> you can hear the difference right there, the body language, the voice, hillary clinton very calm, cool, saying in a
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dangerous world as a former secretary of state, i've got this, i've got the experience. but remember, she tried that in 2008, it did not work, megyn. >> ed henry, thank you. joining me now with more, kirsten powers, "usa today" columnist. good to see you. the lead she had in iowa is down to six points from 14 points not long ago. if bernie sanders wins these two states, the conventional wisdom is he may enjoy that but he's not going to enjoy it for very long, she's going to go down to the south and sweep it and sweep up as well. your thoughts? >> yeah, i think most people. conventional wisdom, i guess i would say, is that if you have to be one of these two candidates, you want to be hillary clinton because he's built for the long haul. after you get outside of these two states that are predominantly white, look, you know, he is from a bordering state of new hampshire so that makes sense. you can kind of give him that one. iowa has, you know, is a predominantly white state. he comes from a predominant lly
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white state. he's very liberal. they're very liberal. they have a high number of socialist, for example. you can sort of write those off. >> iowa is a funny state. high number of socialists and high number of extremely social conservatives, you know? >> it's an interesting place. it's definitely an interesting place. i think once he gets down to south carolina, for example, then we start to see the issue that he has with non-white voters, though, in the fox news poll, one of the interesting numbers was that if you look at the national poll, she's starting to really bleed african-american voters. she is down 17 points from september. >> wow. >> and so that -- >> that -- perhaps president obama helped stop that bleeding today because he came out and had lovely things to say about her to politico saying her campaign, he admitted, is a little bit more poetry, but said she's really warm and funny, she's engaging. he was effusive in his praise saying she can start on day one and talks all about her experience. does that help her? >> it was an almost endorsement.
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he's trying to stay out of the race without giving an endorsement, but he definitely made it very clear she's his choice. i think that that does help her to a certain extent, but she still has to be concerned and if nothing else, it's just a reminder of what happened in 2008 where in the beginning, she had the african-american voters with her, and as people started to see that now-president obama, candidate obama at the time, was a viable person that could be elected, you start to see voters shifting. the good news for hillary is that bernie sanders barack obama and he also probably -- >> nor is he an outsider. it's kind of funny to hear -- how many years has he been in congress?congress? >> exactly. they're very different people and also remember that president obama had a phenomenal organization. >> yeah. >> and whatever organization bernie sanders has we have to wait ian see if he's able to change the electorate and something he will have to do and also in the polls showed in iowa she does much better among
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people who have caucuses before. so, you know, that's -- >> who shows up? who turns out and who. what's the voting history. thank you. we'll be watching one week from tonight. remember the controversy of the hidden videos of planned parenthood officials appearing to negotiate price? what they were paying for remains in dispute. the detractors said they were paying for organs of fetuses being aborted. they say it was a facility fee. well, someone has been criminally charged. not planned parenthood. judge knapps is next. urn with it neutralizes stomach acid and is the only product that forms a protective barrier that helps keep stomach acid in the stomach where it belongs. for fast-acting, long-lasting relief. try gaviscon®.
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♪ ♪ developing tonight, texas grand jury bringing criminal charges recommending them against the filmmaker who shot a series of hidden videos
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targeting planned parenthood. david daieiden was indicted on purchase and sale of human organs, he's making the videos. another league of his also charged, planned parenthood was not charged. joining me now, fox news senior judicial analyst, judge andrew napolitano. what does this mean? >> this means a political prosecutor has injected herself in a very serious issue about whether or not planned parenthood was profiting from the abortion of babies by selling body parts. here's the backstory. the lieutenant governor, the new lieutenant govern of texas, dan patrick, a very, very serious pro-life advocate. was before he was lieutenant governor. is now. he asked this prosecutor to investigate whether or not these tapes were real. was planned parenthood really offering to sell body parts and
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did they, in fact, reference parts they sold? >> which they deny. >> which they deny. anyone that watches the tames comes to their conclusion. i submit you will conclude they did and willing to do it in the future. so the prosecutor investigates this and she decides to present a case to a grand jury. we haven't seen the grand jury transcript yet but we will. not charging planned parenthood with selling body parts but charging the journalists testing planned parenthood with participating in a conspiracy to sell body parts. >> they didn't want to buy any body parts at all. >> of course not. these are what we call crimes of intent. you have to intend. you can't utter the words. if a journal igs sist says, are you winterested in selling body parts? sigh this a political hit job? >> lull. you used to practice law.
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