heading back to iowa sunday and sunday night we'll host a special hour with everything you need to know about the caucuses p.m. sunday night with live reports, the focus group. see you then! welcome to "hannity" and tonight the iowa caucuses three days away and last night's big gop debate we saw the candidates are holding nothing back. her's the biggest moments and the best lines from the final republican showdown before the iowa caucuses. >> i will unite the party and defeat hillary clinton and turn this country around once and for all after the disaster that is barack obama. >> i'm an establishment because my dad the greatest man alive was president of the united states an my brother who i adore was a president and barbara bush is my mom.
i'll take that, too. >> we need to stop allowing political correctness to dictate our policies because it's going to kill us if we don't. >> you can't be in favor of defending us against radical islam if you're not for border security. >> if i'm elected president we'll repeal every word of obamacare. >> stop the washington bull and let's get things done! >> here with hurt, frank luntz and steve hayes and charles hurt. caucus goers and they said? >> marco rubio was the winner. first time in the seven debates of rubio clear winner. always done well. >> yeah. >> and the reason this time is because megyn kelly asked him one of the toughest questions and showed him taking a different position on immigration and the response back about what he would do is so effective that people said, you know what? he does have an answer. and second thing is that when he talked about and joked about bernie sanders and should be
running for president of sweden and emphasized a different foreign policy and that those four guys that got killed in benghazi deserve respect, voters believe that he is the best candidate to defeat hillary clinton and that's why our 27 moved so strongly to him. >> steve? >> yeah. i thought rubio had a very good night. judging him against marco rubio, his performance wasn't as good as had been and still he's just good that the. >> really good at it. >> a natural. does have very well. interestingly, jeb bush had a good night but rubio in the bush-rubio exchange on immigration i think i may be the only person alive who believes this, rubio bested bush in that. rubio benefits with an immigration debate and the takeaway of the big debate, cruz and rubio or bush and rubio or a but scramble, scrum, confusion about the policies of the various candidates, that benefits rubio and in this case he's pushing back against jeb bush and to his left on immigration and people in iowa
and people watching the debate nationally saying, there's marco rubio pushing back on jeb bush being tougher on immigration than jeb bush. >> charles, you have been a strong staunch steady supporter for donald trump. he wasn't there last night. what impact does it have in terms of iowa caucuses? >> obviously, iowa caucuses are kind of impossible to predict for all the reasons that we know. but no. i think that last night, it was a big win for donald trump. you know? he obviously wasn't at the debate but he was very much talked about. the fact that ted cruz had quite a bloodletting and the montage, the moderators showed, showing, you know, ted cruz's various statements about amnesty and legalization for illegals, presently in the country, devastating for ted cruz. anything devastating for ted cruz i think very much helps donald trump. but the other thing, early reports is something like 13
million people, a huge number of people, tune in to the republican debate even though donald trump wasn't there. i think a big reason that so many people are interested in these debates has been because of donald trump and because of the issues that he's brought up. >> let's go to frank. let -- >> let me respond to the trump thing. we asked the voters. iowa is different. they expect you in the line. they expect you to say what you mean and mean what you say and size you up. the fact that trump didn't do it, any other place except i with and new hampshire it would have worked to say i'm not going. not in this state. the reason why is they want to hear what he has to say. >> we say that. we don't know what will happen in the state. we'll know in three states. this is the real clear iowa average. this is going in. trump 32%. cruz 26%. rubio 13%. might be some fluidity to this. notoriously people make up the minds last minute and numb two, 2000, 2004, 2008, 2012, the
polls were so drastically wrong. >> right. >> with the way it turned out. between 7 and 25 points. >> if trump wins this, may win every single state -- >> steve hayes is about to -- >> he's only -- >> head explode? >> no. >> i can feel it. >> a coronary. >> if he wins here, cruz has the organization, cruz understands how the process works. >> went the full grassley, 99 counties. >> if trump can win here among republicans then anywhere. >> i think that's true. he can win anywhere. if he can win here and it would be a blow to ted cruz if he doesn't win iowa i think. this is a state made for ted cruz but far too early to say if donald trump wins iowa he runs the table. >> he could. >> it's possible. i don't think it's inevitable. >> he has a significant lead in new hampshire and for a while and south carolina. >> no question. >> and had it for a while. pretty strong. >> strong across the south. >> florida and nevada and pretty
much every state. >> likely to see after iowa, likely to perform the role as the winnowing state. knocking some out of the race and maybe new hampshire, they stick through new hampshire. south carolina and the other states, nevada and then march 1 states much, much smaller field. with the lower ceiling that donald trump has, the reservations that people have about drmonald trump, do the voters supporting the candidates at 5%, 8% swing behind the non-trump alternative? if you do, you have a long process and i think potentially a -- doesn't have to be a two-man race. potentially ted cruz's resources, popularity in the south, trump's national popul popularity and the other person seems like marco rubio has momentum in iowa. >> marco, jeb or kasich? >> no reason for ben carson to go out with so much money. even if he seems to be dropping in the polls, he has resources and one of the people between
bush, kasich and christie go on, as well. you are looking at a five-person race. >> we'll see people after new hampshire out, maybe before. >> every single state trump is leading. >> look. if i'm looking at it from if you want to stop momentum if possible, okay, thousands of people showed up that couldn't d get in last night. some win in 32,000 votes or fewer. let me put up a montage. i want to ask charles, as a trump supporter, made the attacks from the stage. not all about trump and did come up, obviously. tell me if you think these are effective and then ask frank. >> i'm a maniac. and everyone on this stage is stupid, fat and ugly. and ben, you're a terrible surgeon. now that we have gotten the donald trump portion out of the way -- [ applause ] >> let's begin by being clear what this campaign is about. not about donald trump.
he is an entertaining guy, the greatest show on earth. >> if donald insults, i don't tend to reciprocate. i have not insulted donald permly. >> i miss donald trump. he was a the eddie bear to me. he always had such a loving relationship in these debates and in between and the tweets. i kind of miss him. i wish he was here. >> charles, no impact at all? >> well, you know, ted cruz who is kind of naturally not a terribly funny guy in another attempt to make a joke about trump later on in the debate saying if i get more tough questions i'll walk off the stage, in the lead-up to it whining convincingly and complaining about the questions, chris wallace very respectfully and forcefully said, sir, this is a debate. it was a devastating moment of the night for ted kruds and another reason why it was a rough night all around for ted cruz. >> you know, we all think the
moments are devastating. we forget about them 24 hours later. what did you think? >> you had 13 million whatever, 13 million, 14 million people watching. everyone in iowa and new hampshire. both paying attention and trump wasn't there to be heard. that's critical to this. >> you got done saying he's going to win the sit. >> no. i think cruz wins here. >> you do? >> i believe. i'm willing to say it on national television because of his organization. but i see trump's potential. you know, sean, back in august, i got it wrong and so i spent last six months studying it. sometimes putting up my own resources to figure this thing out. trump can do it but in the end in politics organization does matter. >> especially in a caucus. caucus is different. >> basically having to tell people, you know, not quite in the republicans. democrats you have to tell people who you support. gop it will be pretty clear. if they don't show up, then it doesn't matter who they support. >> steve, last word. >> i think that's right.
people on the grund here from call campaigns will say the cruz organization is formidable. correct cruz to turn out the voters he is. i talked to a precinct captain yesterday and she said the phone is ringing off the hook. democrats and independents want to know the details. how much time to commit to spending to support donald trump. if a fraction of the people who went to the event last night -- >> released. >> competitive i think. i think trump ultimately pulls it out and that -- that would be unprecedented. changes what we know about iowa. >> what you said is absolutely accurate. they have to call the trump headquarters to get the information. all the calls are going out from the cruz the e-mail, the texts. trump's case, it is all coming in. >> that's the organization? >> absolutely. >> thank you. next, tonight, right here on "hannity" -- >> the gang of eight bill would have passed but because ted led the effort, millions rose up to
kill it. >> this is the lie that the campaign is built on. he's the most conservative guy and everyone else is a -- everyone else is an rino. >> all right. so the topic of immigration took center stage last night. juan williams, peter johnson jr., larry elder with reaction. later tonight, jerry falwell jr. endorsed donald trump and ted cruz's father rafael cruz here to react to the idea of which candidate is best representing evangelical voters. that and more as we continue tonight from iowa. when heartburn hits fight back fast tums smoothies starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue and neutralizes stomach acid at the source tum, tum, tum, tum smoothies! only from tums
one of the most heated exchanges over the topic of immigration. take a look at this. >> i do not support blanket amnesty. in 2009 and 2010, where the last effort for legalization an effort done in the senate. there was an effort led by several people that provided almost an instant path. >> he was the sponsor of the gang of eight bill that did require a bunch of thresholds and ultimately allowed for citizenship over an extended period of time. when you led the charge with the gang of eight, i supported it because you asked me to. i think it's important for people in elected office to try to forge consensus. there's never going to be a perfect bill. >> all right. >> but -- but when you didn't do that and ask people to support, you shouldn't cut and run. stick with it. >> the gang of eight bill would have passed but because ted stood up and helped lead the effort millions rose up to kill it. >> this is the lie that ted's campaign is built on and rand touched upon it. he's the most conservative guy
and everyone else is a -- everyone sels an rino. when you got to the senate you did an interview with cbs news. wasn't part of the video saying on the issue of people here illegally, we can reach a compromise and then in the committee you said i want to bring people out of the shadows and now trump trump on immigration. >> joining us with analysis is peter johnson jr., larry elder and juan williams. juan, i'll start with you. a couple of things started. paris happened. san bernardino happened. the debate over syrian refugees and our director of national intelligence and our fbi director and the obama's choice to defeat isis general john allen warning that the immigrant population, especially from syria, will be infiltrated by isis. the debate shifted. it's changed. we have to look at it differently. >> no, you don't. >> let everybody in? >> 12 million people undocumented in this country at this moment right here consider
that a threat. if you want to understand the idea that we have to deal with a problem, as an economic issue for our companies to get the best people in here, as a security issue -- >> let's say you have a problem. >> as a security issue, think about san bernardino. what were those people here? they were here. not coming in at the last minute, sean. >> wasn't vetting done and especially in the case of the woman. here's a question. if you think we have to deal with the problem, if you're in a boat and taking on water, when's the first thing? >> stop. >> plug the hole. >> that's it. stop the problem. >> peter johnson jr., i think what everybody candidate on the stage said last night we have got to secure the borders first and even marco rubio said then let the country decide what the decision will be on those that didn't respect the laws and sovereignty. >> homework of a common sense immigration plan and constitutional immigration plan but i think we have to keep in mind the point that you're making, sean, that security in a time of war is absolutely
paramount. at the same time, we have to understand that xenophobia, racism, anti-religion doesn't work in this country. and so we need to keep our perspective so we can't run away with it at the same time but we need to get the borders straight and i think these candidates have it right up, yeah. you're right. >> yeah. larry elder, you know what? the world has shifted and things have gotten worse. we have more national security issues. you live in southern california. you probably more than anybody else have seen the impact on the educational system, criminal justice system, the health care system in l.a. and the cost to the taxpayers of california. explain. >> well, sean, but for purposes of the debate last night, the issue is whether or not cruz or rubio have been consistent on the issue and i think in that regard rubio's in trouble. he ran as an anti-immigration,
anti-pathway to citizenship hawk. two years later, a 180 and now gone back and argument is we now are concerned about national security as if we weren't before. regarding ted cruz, he's been consistent but his position is difficult to sound bite because he introduced an amendment to kill the gang of eight bill true. schumer said so. he got mike lee and anti-immigration hawks and jeff sessions to side with him but took explaining and the question is who's consistent? rubio has not been and cruz has. >> well, let's clear this up for sean hannity and say that it's obvious from both what we have heard from peter and larry that national security is an issue but we have got to avoid racism and we have got to fix the immigration problem and not find reasons to avoid it vilifying people who either want to come in the country or people who are immigrants and in our country. >> there's no racism rooted in the fact if you look at people in this country that are most
negatively impacted by the fact that there's more job competition, driving down wages, it's the american people, peter. the 50 million in poverty. 46 million on food stamps and the 95 million americans out ooft labor force because we have millions of more people here illegally that are competition in the labor force. >> it's a huge issue. you talked about san bernardino. well, these aren't newcomers. she was a newcomer. we missed it big time. >> that's right. >> we didn't secure our borders in the appropriate way. we didn't take it seriously. we need to take it seriously. but at the same time, we cannot engage in wholesale condemnation of the muslim religion or muslim people. and at least one candidate was resorting to that kind of a conduct. that's going to be rejected by the republican party. that's going to be rejected by democrats and independents in this country going forward. i think we have heard that from cruz and from rubio, as well. that's got to be a balance but
we need a strong, secure border going forward. and we don't have it. >> and, sean, it came up last night about hostility towards muslims. jews are far more likely to be the victim of religious-based hate crimes than muslims. >> that's correct. >> how about a word or two about that? >> i stood up for my entire life. let's not have both groups coming under fire. >> they're not equivalent. >> because of the religion, the religion that they lawfully observe. if they're radical jihadists and violent and want to kill, should be locked up and taken out. simple. >> my only caution is there's such a big cultural divide where sharia is the antithesis of our american constitutional system. >> it is. you're correct. >> when we hear that people might infiltrate the immigrant community, coming from muslim countries, isis would do that. that's something we have to pay close attention to and might
appear it's religious test, i don't believe that's it. it's an extremist test. >> you're hitting it on the head. it should be an extremism test and shouldn't be a religious test but some people or at least one person want to mix it. that's a popular thing to do, especially when there's so much fear about our security. i think it's essentially un-american to do that. >> you don't really think that anybody's going to impose sharia law on this country, do you? that's the kind of thing that misleads people to fear and -- >> there's no fear. juan? if you grew up in a country where you had the right to tell the women in your house how to dress. hang on. >> you should try in my house. sheez. christian household, too. >> no, no. growing up in a society and women can't drive, can't be seen outside without a male relative. can't go to school or work without a husband or father's permission. do you bring that mentality with you or -- and want the
assimilate? that's a fair question. >> that's a fair question but this is the united states of america. >> some people may want to bring the values with us. >> you know what, sean? no way to bring those values and get us as a democracy to accept it. >> you never grew up that way. larry? >> sean, it is just as extreme for the president of united states and hillary clinton never utter the words radical islam. as bit extreme as anything donald trump said on the issue. >> thank you all for being with us. coming up, on this busy news night, according to washington examiner, congressman i sa says he thinks the fbi director would like to indict hillary clinton. that explosive news coming up. first jerry falwell jr. endorsed donald trump this week. we'll check in with him and ted cruz's father here to explain which candidate they think is best for evangelical voters. and then later tonight -- >> trying for the white house. probably more qualified for the big house. >> hillary clinton did that to
our country. she is not qualified to be president of the united states. >> anyone who lies to the families of americans who have died in the service of this country can never be commander in chief of the united states. >> the gop candidates unloading on hillary clinton during last night's debate. we'll check in with dana and katie. think aer here with reaction. get ready to show your roots with roots touch-up from nice'n easy. seamlessly blends with leading shades, even salon shades in just 10 minutes. for natural looking color as real as you are. show the world your roots with root touch-up. performance... ...reimagined.
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jerry falwell jr. with us, his brother is the reverend and endorsed donald trump this week. an honor to meet you. >> good to be with you, sean. >> amazing historically, there is a state, iowa, huckabee and santorum won. obviously, you're supporting your son. >> of course. >> yeah. tell us why -- why is this vote so important and -- what are the issues that evangelicals are thinking about? >> this country, we have seen our moral and ethical values being destroyed over the last 50 years. but that has happened at an accelerated race in the obama administration. we are seeing religious liberty under attack. we are seeing right to life. look when's happened with planned parenthood. >> yeah. >> and of course, we have seen marriage, the traditional marriage being under attack which is really an attack on
religious liberty and it is i think we are at a crossroads in america. we need to get back to the foundations that have made america great. the biblical and the constitutional foundations. hard work, individual responsibility, honesty, integrity, the rule of law, free enterprise, limited government an all of those biblical and constitutional principles. >> jerry jr., i know i referred to you as a reverend. i have done that by before and by accident and i knew your dad so well. you made a choice and you quoted your father about electing a president and we're not electing a minister or a preacher or a pastor. explain. >> right. well, i spent the better part of my adult life, sean, working to make liberty university the world class christian university that it was envisioned to be. and we spent many years barely
surviving financially. disease and i would spend many weekends on the phone begging and borrowers of lenders to get the money to cover the paychecks that had gone out the friday before but we brought in the best professionals, the best attorneys, the best accountants, the best financial management. regardless of whether they shared our faith and that's what it took to turn liberty university around and now it's become one of the most prosperous and successful christian universities in the country. >> yeah. >> and it's just the same as a parent with a desperately sick child who looks for the best doctor. not necessarily the doctor that shares their faith. i think the united states is at the same place that liberty university was in the early 1990s. and i think that we need someone who has turned companies around, even used the bankruptcy laws. we never did but somebody who
has actually in the real world, been -- turned companies around, turned his own companies around, made them prosperous. i think that's what the this coy needs and i think -- i agree with rafael cruz who i respect very much but the crossroads is about to lose our economic, our stature in the world. i think we are on the verge of becoming a third world country. >> when's your reaction? >> at some point. >> well, you know, it is -- first of all, it is so great to hear from jerry. i knew his father. his father was a man of principle. a man of deep conviction. and a man that would not compromise his values or his principles. during the 1980, 1979, i was part of the religious roundtable. we worked together with moral majority to mobilize millions of people of faith. to help elect ronald reagan.
>> you know, we see in these elections there's so many evangelicals that stay out of the voting process. will that happen this year? >> i don't think so. unfortunately for the last 50 years the church, the people of faith have stayed away from the political process and their reasoning is politics is a dirty business. i don't want any part of it. people of principle not been running for office and people of principle have not been voting for people of principle and becomes our fault. actually, for the last few years i've made it a concerted effort to talk to pastors, priests, rabbis -- >> motivate your congregation? >> motivate them to be involved. >> last word, jerry falwell jr.? >> well, i have gotten to know donald trump very well over the last four years and i think he is a businessman of the highest honesty and integrity. a wonderful father. i think he treats his employees. i have seen their loyalty to
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welcome back. we have more bad news for hillary clinton and her server scandal. according to "washington examiner" congressman issa says he thinks the fbi would like to indict hillary clinton and her top aide and according to another report by "the hill" former fbi officials think charges could be recommended against clinton during the height of the general election campaign. here now with reaction, pollster doug schoen and jay sekulow. jay, you and i have been -- you have your sources. i have my sources. i have been told now for a while the fbi investigation is near complete. we have the inspector general report last week that said dozens of e-mails. she is in deep legal trouble.
where does this go? >> i think very serious trouble. sean, here's the stage we're at. right now the fbi is what they're doing is they're putting that case. so what the agents do, as they've conducted this thorough investigation, of course, the s.a.p. information escalates this to a whole different level above and over intelligence. vulnerable to being outed basically. because of the lack of security. that was on this server for hillary clinton. the department of justice fbi agents are putting that case together. they've got the evidence. they lay out that evidence in a report. that report and, you know, again, it could still be in process will recommend here are the various charges. and that is then taken and reviewed by james comey. it's serious. >> as katherine herridge reported earlier today that some of the e-mails too secretive to be released under any circumstances. i mean, if they can't release
them even to the members of the intelligence committees, because of the secret nature of this, probably meaning that people's lives are in jeopardy and then we hear reports it's likely bob gates said the russians tapped into this, to me, it seems that this is almost a slam dunk. she will have serious legal issues. your reaction? >> sean -- >> no doubt. >> sean, my question is, do you think the obama justice department, loretta lynch and the president himself are going to indict hillary clinton after what the president said earlier this week? he said it's not a national security risk. i agree. jay and you are right. very serious legal issues but do you think, both of you, that she will be charged with a crime as a result? >> here's the risk. >> the answer to the question -- jay? >> fbi agents, doing a thorough job here and put together a recommendation that a grand jury
be impanelled and charges brought and the director concurs and makes that recommendation to loretta lynch the attorney general and she blows it off or just decides we are not going there, gets a order from above from the president saying we are not going to do that, you could risk a very, very serious shake-up within the department of justice where you could see career fbi agents and maybe even the director of the fbi resigning over this. and i'm not sure that the president wants that as his legacy. doug, you raise the politics and the politics cuts both ways getting to that point of a recommendation from james comey to move and lynch doesn't do it. >> james comey threatened to resign over another issue with john ashcroft and alberto gonzalez if you remember at the time. it's not unprecedented. >> yep. >> i also think frankly -- >> he is. i remember that very incident. sean, that was -- james comey is a man of principle. would not allow that -- those
warrantless wiretaps to continue while john ashcroft incapacitated because of surgery and he's a serious guy and the ramifications for hillary clinton at the highest stage they could be at. >> politically, if hillary loses one of two or even two of two in iowa and new hampshire, her political position will be weakened and i think strengthen the justice department hand in going forward. >> what happens then politically, doug? >> she's a factor in the administration of justice. >> i'm sorry, your question, again? >> what happens politically? >> if she loses the two, we have got joe biden being teed up. he said he regrets every day he's not in the race. he might be if what you're talking about comes to pass. >> and that means that's nothing but chaos and corruption. can they win in that environment, jay? >> they have a great asset.
they have the republicans. >> yeah. well -- >> nice try. >> they will be a process of a nominee selected by the regular delegate process in the rnc w. a situation of hillary clinton getting indicted and the dnc to move through special superdelegates or amending the rules, it is kay why is on the side. don't underestimate joe biden. he is a good campaigner. you may not like the politics or the positions but he can campaign. who knows? i think it should not be the factor. the factor should be was there a violation of the criminal law? if there was, the grand jury should be impanelled and indictment should be issued. >> i'm skeptical but biden with elizabeth warren is a darn strong ticket if something happens to hillary. it will be of corruption. and everybody supported her and it will have a much bigger impact than you're suggesting, doug. we'll see. >> we will, indeed. >> not that long. thank you both. next tonight right here on
"hannity" -- >> she's escaped prosecution more times than el chapo. >> put american intelligence officers at risk for her convenience. she put american strategy at risk for her convenience. >> hillary clinton lied to the families of those four brave americans who lost their life in benghazi. >> the republican candidates, they went on the attack against hillary clinton in last night's debate. data lesch and katie ♪
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for all binge watchers. movie geeks. sports freaks. x1 from xfinity will change the way you experience tv. welcome back to "hannity" at last night's debate, they laid out reasons why hillary clinton should not be elected. >> she escaped prosecution more times than el chapo. perhaps sean penn should interview her. the woman should be prosecuted. >> she put american intelligence officers at risk for her convenience. she put american strategy at risk for her convenience. let me tell you who is not qualified for president of the united states, chris, hillary clinton. >> hillary clinton lied to the
families of those four brave americans who lost their lives in benghazi and anyone who lies to families of americans who died in the service of this country can never be commander in chief in the united states. >> joining us now, dana lash. i'm glad to see somebody seems to understand the espionage act, what happened with david petraeus, and we've got the intelligence community inspector general outlining dozens of e-mails that transcend even top secret intelligence found on her e-mail server. the question, are we going to have a candidate indicted? >> i think there is serious evidence to show, in talking with attorneys here in washington, d.c. and outside of the beltway that hillary clinton will be indicted and i think it's really great that the republican candidates were able to capitalize off of this issue
against hillary clinton and have to remind that hillary clinton continues on the campaign trail, when asked to say she did nudge wrong when it comes to hosting classified, top secret information on a private server. well, here is news, hosting information that is classified when it comes to human source information is wrong. and the fact that she won't admit that and says she has no lapse in judgment over that is a point republicans are capitalizing on because the national security of the united states is at stake here. >> you know, dana, we have learned the story of david petraeus. they wanted to charge him for a felony for far less, handing over his daily schedule for a biography on him. that got him into deep trouble. this case seems to be that, on steroids. what happened? >> david's last name isn't
clinton. hillary clinton seems to be in a way coded with the same teflon her husband was coated with. i'm not sure that is going to protect her going into the general election. if she's indicted i have no idea how democrats are going to deal with that, how a voter can cast a ballot for hillary clinton knowing she can be indicted that is if loretta lynch indicts her, if the fbi releases an indictment you're going to have anger towards the obama administration, but hillary clinton as well. this is kind of a nightmare for democrats. the front runner will likely be, at least the fbi will refer that she is to be indicted. >> if they do, dana and make that referral and loretta lynch
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