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now, tomorrow, 8:00, election coverage from new hampshire. 11:00 eastern time, "factor." again, thanks for wautching us tonight. miss megyn is next. i'm bill o'reilly. please remember the spin stops here. definitely looking out for you. breaking tonight. new polls just out point to a fierce fight just hours away from the first primary of the 2016 race for the white house. good evening, and welcome to "the kelly file" everyone, live from manchester, new hampshire, it does look like i'm in my living room because we're at the beautiful college. i'm megyn kelly. here's one of the latest polls showing donald trump leading the field by more than 20 points at 34%. senator ted cruz and marco rubio tied for second with 13%. governors john kasich and jeb bush are neck and neck in third with 10%. and then governor chris christie has 5%. you can see the leader board there. the latest from the campaign trail, senator rubio is not backing down from his critics
who are slamming his performance at this weekend's debate in new hampshire. it was the final showdown before voters go to the polls and there was an epic moment between senator rubio and governor christie that drove the political writers nuts. watch. >> let's just start once and for all with the fiction that barack obama doesn't know what he's doing. he knows exactly what he's doing. barack obama is undertaking a systemic effort to change this country to make america more like the rest of the world. when i'm president of the united states, we are going to re-embrace all the things that made america the greatest nation in the world and we are going to leave our children what they deserve. >> you have not been involved in a consequential decision where you had to be held accountable. you just simply haven't. >> i think the experience is not just what you did, but how it worked out. under chris christies's governorship of new jersey, they've been downgraded nine times in their credit rating. i would add this, let's dispel this fiction that barack obama doesn't know what he's doing. he knows exactly what he's doing. he is trying to change this country. he wants america to become more
like the rest of the world. >> you see everybody, i want the people at home to think about this, that's what washington, d.c., does. the drive-by shot at the beginning with incorrect and incomplete information then the memorized 25-second speech, that is exactly what his advisers gave him. [ cheers and applause ] >> christie, your state got hit by a massive snowstorm, two weeks ago, you didn't even want to go back. they had to shame you into going back then you stayed there for 36 hours and then you left and came back to campaign. those are the facts. here's the bottom line, this notion that barack obama doesn't know what he's doing is just not -- >> there it is. there it is. the memorized 25-second speech. >> that's the -- >> there it is, everybody. >> that's why this campaign is so important. >> and then senator rubio went back to that same line again. senator rubio standing by his debate performance, though, even despite the fact that some are mocking him for repeating one rehearsed line about president obama at least four times over the course of the night. here's senator rubio.
>> and let's just start once and for all with this fiction that barack obama doesn't know what he's doing. he knows exactly what he's doing. barack obama is undertaking a systemic effort to change this country. to make america more like the rest of the world. let's dispel this fiction that barack obama doesn't know what he's doing. he knows exactly what he's doing. he is trying to change this country. he wants america to become more like the rest of the world. here's the bottom line. this notion that barack obama doesn't know what he's doing is just not true -- >> there it is. there it is. the memorized 25-second speech. >> that's the -- >> that's the reason -- >> i think anyone who believes that barack obama isn't doing what he's doing on purpose doesn't understand what we're dealing with here. okay? this is a president -- this is a president who's trying to change this country. >> and here was some of the media reaction. "the union leader" new hampshire's paper of record writing "christie rocks rubio at final debate." the washington d.c.-based website politico writing "rubio crashed and burned." conservative website "the daily caller" writing "rubio's debate
malfunction undermines his appeal." here now, senator marco rubio. >> so you heard some of those reviews talking about how this was a malfunction, others said it was an unmasking. what's your reaction when you -- >> that's people that cover politics on a daily basis. i'm not looking to impress them. i'm looking to impress voters. i can tell you we raised more money online that debate knotha any other debate we had. our crowds have grown in iowa afterwards. i'm going to continue to say what i said that night. i honestly and deeply believe -- >> it wasn't the message. it was the repetition of the message. >> i get it, but that's the only way i know how to describe it. look, that was a two-hour debate and we were asked questions on all sorts of things, and answers were different for all of them. this is what i deeply believe. i know no other way to describe it other than the fact this president is undertaking a systemic effort to redefine the role of government in our country and the world. he's literalry trying to change america. if bernie sanders and hillary
clinton wins, it's going to become permanent. that's what this campaign is a lot about for me. i'm going to continue to say that because i believe that passionately. >> let me ask you about your proce process. is there a system by which you memorize answers? is that how you do it? >> i know what i believe. >> is it repeated over and over on the campaign trail? >> it would be part of that. you've been answering the same questions over and over again from different people over time, but in the end it's what i believe. every word i say in my campaign are things that i believe, and so, you know, this is our eighth debate, our seventh debate, whichever one it was. i feel good about every single one of them at least among voters. we're going to continue to say this. it's a core part of our message. >> was there any pause -- i'm going to move on. was there any pause in your mind when christie was hitting you about repeating the same line doing it again? that's the moment he said, there it is. >> he went in there trying to start a fight with people. i don't think this campaign should be about republicans beating each other up. there are differences between us, we can talk about those. for me, that's what i try to do
and continue to try to do. there's a difference between u we'll address it but let's move back to the center issue in this campaign and that is what barack obama's doing to america, what will continue to happen if hillary or bernie win. you know, i believe the democrats love these kinds of debates. they would love to see us have a bloody, nasty process and primary to make it easier for hillary clinton or bernie sanders to win. >> his point seemed to be that we, the american people, shouldn't trufrt you because there isn't substance there, there is just memorized lines. >> yeah, but that's absurd. i was asked questions about syria, irst asked questions about the -- you know, my pro-life position. all these -- we were asked questions all about sorts of things. we answered those questions. we answer those questions all the time. >> getting exciting behind us. >> kbraeryeah, that's good. >> all kinds of excitement on the campaign trail. >> it's part of the fun. >> the lovers are much greater than the haters. >> at the end, if you think about it, when people want to brag about their experience, look at their record and the
results they've gotten. christie's a governor that's got his state downgraded nine times in seven years. that's part of his record he'll have to answer for. in the end, my campaign has never been about beating up on the other republicans because in the end we got to bring this party together if we want to win this election and i will. >> a couple of issues for you, off-point you can talk about anything -- >> absolutely. >> can we do a few rapid fire is. >> i think all children can be evacuation na vaccinated. >> do you thank they cause autuaw autism? >> no, i don't. kids should be vaccinated. >> native american halloween costumes, should they be offended? >> i think it's more of a societal issue. if something offends someone you shouldn't unnecessarily do it, it's not a law. >> to that point, jeb bush and his mother, barbara, gai gave a
interview on donald trump saying there's a difference between being politically incorrect and vulgar, objected to swear words he was using in rooms full of people including children. your thoughts? >> i agree. i think it's important to have dignity in the office of the presidency. i give donald a lot of credit. he has really brought attention to a lot of issues in this country people are upset about. i think we're capable of doing that without doing it in a way, for example, will embarrass you if your kids did it. >> last question. you were out on the campaign trail and literally brought a young woman to tears, she was so excited. we can see the enthusiasm for you in this room as well. as we sit here on the eve of new hampshire with, you know, the momentum behind you of the past week, with a bit of a debate stumble, what is winning for you tomorrow night? >> it's interesting, we've never seen a campaign like this. you have three candidates in this race that basically their entire campaign has been in one state. donald trump has consistently led the polls here since the middle of june and ted was the winner in iowa. who knows. it's a very unusual dynamic. i can say we want to get as many
delegates as we can out of new hampshire because we think this is going to be a long brprocess with so many people running. we got seven delegates out of iowa, ted came in first, he got eight. he's one delegate ahead of us despite that finer. we want to get as many out of new hampshire, do as well as we can, move on to south carolina which we feel very strong about our campaign there. >> it's not about placement, it's about delegates. >> ultimately it will be in this one because if you look at this race, how long it's going to take with so many competitive people in the race, i think that's going to be a big factor here. we're going to be the nominee. i don't know if it's going to be in may or march. it could take a while. >> thank you. good to see. well, as you just saw, governor chris christie managed to score some points in saturday's debate by attacking senator rubio. as someone whose campaign is built on memorized lines, and heavily rehearsed sound bites. but today governor christie's critics pointed out the new jersey governor like a lot of the candidates sometimes also repeats himself. watch. >> this is the difference between being a governor and being in the legislature. you have to be responsible and
accountab accountable. this is the difference between being a governor and being a senator. see, when you're a senator, what you get to do is just talk and talk and talk. when you're a governor, you're held accountable for everything you do. the difference between being a governor and being someone who has never had to be responsible for any of those decisions. this is the difference between being a governor who actually has to be responsible for problems. when you're a governor, you have to take responsibility. >> joining us now, republican presidential candidate and new jersey governor chris christie. governor, good to see you. >> good to be here, megyn. >> what do you make of that? you saying the same lines over and over on the campaign trail. >> really interesting to try to make that comparison, but i didn't say them four times in a row in one debate in a way that was completely nonresponsive to the question like i was drowning and grabbing for a life preserver. so, yeah, it's a good ftry by te rubio campaign but not quite. >> they didn't do it. your critics are raising the point. >> the rubio campaign -- >> it was the rubio campaign who did it and pushed it out to
other media sources. >> no, for the record, we did not have contact -- >> other media sources. >> okay. just to make it clear -- >> yeah, of course. >> that was our idea. i don't know whether they did it, too. because we hear a lot of similarities between the candidates, stump speeches. this is what his defenders say, like, you guys you can't come up a new bit every time you go speak. you can't come up with a new bit on every point. this this bit when he gets attacked on whether a first-term senator is the one we should elect as president. >> it was nonresponsive to the question. and so, listen, megyn, he can argue all he wants, but there is not a person watching that debate the other night unless they were in marco rubio's hip pocket who thought that that was responsive and a good thing. by the way, it just shows he's not ready. he's not ready to be president of the united states. >> let me chance you on the nons responsiveness. it was a shocking moment because he did keep repeating it over and over. >> yeah. >> if you take aside the moment of the debate, how is it not responsive? because he was trying to defend why it's okay to elect a first-term senator, notwithstanding what we've seen with barack obama.
his point is barack obama wasn't too inexperienced for the job, barack obama has done everything he's done that's controversial intentionally. that's how he's trying to rebut the argument that a first-term senator is not the right one. >> nobody buys it, sorry, good try. nobody buys it. >> that's a dichbt fferent -- >> no, nobody buys it. nobody buys that that's responsive and he got caught doing exactly what i was saying he's been doing for the whole campaign. >> which reveals what us to us? >> he has no depth and no substance. that's what. he repeats canned lines over and over and over again. he does it all the time. in his town hall meetings. he does it in tv interviews. >> do you ever do that? >> listen, do i say some things the same time? you go to my town hall meetings, i almost never open the same way, almost never close the same way, my answers are different. absolutely. >> how about the people who say it's message discipline? >> how about the people who say it's rorobotic? i don't know. listen, if you like marco rubio anyone you like that. i tell you this, it's not way it
works when you're sitting in a big chair. you can't repeat the same thing over and over again. going to do that sitting across from vladimir putin? there's not substance there, meggen. it's what everyone suspected about senator rub wrirubio. he's a nice guy, has talent. he's too young, too inexperienced and he has served not one day in a position of management in his entire life. and now we want him to manage the largest most complex government in the history of this world. i quite frankly don't think that qualifies him and what it showed th other night, much more importantly than that, is i am ready because i did not get shaken. >> let me ask -- >> by what -- listen, he was coming right back at me. >> i'm going to give you the floor. >> he was coming right back at me. i didn't repeat the same things over and over again. >> everyone remembers four years ago there were republicans begging you to run, you said i'm not ready, i'll know when i'm ready. is that why this has particular resonance for you, do you feel like he's you four years ago, somebody who just isn't ready for job but is putting himself out there? >> no, has nothing to do with me.
about him not being ready. i make my own decision. everyone has to make their own decision when they think they're ready then you're judged and he's being judged about whether he's ready or not and he's not ready. >> to those voters in new hampshire who say i love chris christie, he's got no chance, i don't want to vote for somebody who has no chance. >> our internal polls show something different than what you showed out here. very different. you're going to have very surprised tomorrow night. the momentum is in our direction. it's been that way since the debate ended saturday night. senator rubio is dropping like a rock and we rising. >> you're saying your internal polls show that? >> yes, nap. >> any prediction? >> i'm going to do better than what we showed you on the screen. i tell you that. >> again, that was -- >> your poll, you asked for a prediction. i'm going to do a lot better than that. then buy me a beer or something. >> what? i don't know what you've heard about me. >> i don't know -- >> i'm a tea -- >> then buy me a cup of tea. >> milkshakes. >> whee'll go to blake's. >> governor, good to see you.
>> thank you, good to see you, megyn. we're less than three hours away from the first votes in new hampshire. he could lock it up. carl cameron is en route to dixville notch, the tiny community that will vote first. carl? >> drive safely, carl. >> reporter: hi, megyn, hi, governor. welcome to twin mountain on the north side of the white mountain national forest on route 3 where we pulled over just to make sure the technology would work. we went by a sign that said watch out for moose, "hundreds of collisions." we still have an hour or so to go before we get to dixville notch, home of the first of the first. in the past there's been a population who work at the balsams hotel there of a population vote of 30 to 40 people but the facility's been going through some renovations and the vote will be tremendously representative of the denothi nothidemography of and the world with a total of ten votesers tonight but they're
the first of the first. in addition to dixville notch there's always been a location with usually a slighter larger population and a new town called millfield, new hampshire law that says if everybody who wants to vote can vote at midnight, you can open the polls and close them as soon as they vote. donald trump has not made a visit here, in fact, almost none of the candidates have made a visit here whereas in the past they did. trump may be leading in the polls. dixville isn't necessarily indicative but it can only be as few as two or three votes to actually win it, megyn, and will have the rulesult s live at midnight. >> exciting. look forward to seeing you then, carl. if you look at the polls, john kasich is now third. he'll join us next with his plans for the road ahead and his predictions. plus, woe're seeing an aggressive look from governor jeb trump. that's not right. that's what the prompter says. governor jeb bush as he takes on donald trump. on why governor bush is now the one making it personal.
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today went out with this message. watch. >> do you regret your vote for the assault weapons ban in 94? >> going back and regretting. i voted for assault weapons ban. >> i earned an a-plus rating from the nra, florida's pro-gun
laws have been a model for other states. >> you work to expand medicaid, work for president obama. >> give president obama bipartisan cover on obamacare, your answer. >> yeah, one governor expanded medicaid, the other did, too. i think that was wrong. >> joining me now, republican presidential candidate, ohio governor john kasich. there's a reason they're going after you, governor, that's because at least in the latest monmouth and arg polls, you're in second place here in new hampshire which would be a remarkable finish for you in this state, and so obviously they're gunning for you. but are they on to something? those are issues -- >> megyn, you know, look -- >> -- that upset the republican base in some circumstances. >> i'm really disappointed in jeb. it's, look, i mean, he's taken the very low road to the highest office in the land, and he's been negative all along, but that's okay. you know, as arnold schwarzenegger told me when i was running for governor the first time, love the beatings. we've been positive really this -- we've been positive this whole time and megyn, you couldn't believe what happened just about 45 minutes ago. we had hundreds of people
standing in a snowstorm with the klieg lights in front of this old iconic country store and people are fired up and our ground game is like
nothing that the people have seen and, well, gordon humphrey says the best ground game we've seen in 40 years. so, look, i'm going to continue to be positive. i've done 106 town hall meetings. our television has been good. i'm really sanguine. i'm in -- >> sanguine. nice use of sanguine. let me ask you about immigration. that's an issue we hear about a lot with you. the one debate you got up there, what are we going to do, think about the children. trump's plan, this plan by others have them all yanked out, illegal immigrants, it's not realistic, and a lot of republicans groaned at that saying, he's too weak on immigration. >> well, i don't think i'm weak. i've done, like i say, i've been all over the country and when you spend -- when you do 106
town halls with people here and so many other kind of meetings, megyn, look, what's practical, finish the border, don't let anybody come in that's not permitted. if they come in, send them right back. have a gefuest worker program. for the 11.5 million who are here, give them a bath to legalization, not citizenship and get this issue behind us. i believe that's the right -- the right approach. i think the american people, my guess is i don't want to speak for the american people, but i think they think it's reasonable, and i think you could pass it thu the congress. let's get it done. i'd like to get it done in the first 100 days. >> governor christie was here moments ago suggesting he thought there was a pivotal moment between himself and senator rubio at the debate also suggesting their internal polling is showing bad news for senator rubio and good news for governor christie. you want to share anything about what you're seeing on the state of the race right now? >> well, we just feel good, megyn. i mean, when you take a look at
what we've done here and take a look at the intensity and passion of our ground game, because you know at the end in a place like new hampshire, i've been telling you this really for a long time, it's touching voters. i just called a guy today who tomorrow is going to make his 10,000th phone call. i mean, it's ridiculous. people have walked in the rain, they walk in the snow and that's how you win elections. you win it with that ground game. particularly in a state of this size. so in terms of predicting what's going to happen, i'm not going to do that, but i've got a bus dy to send to south carolina because we'll be going there tomorrow night because i think we're going to have an excellent result. i don't sea it, you know, sort of -- i don't want to brag. i've been humbled with what's happened up here, and i think we're going to do extremely well and the thank you goes to the people of new hampshire. >> governor, great to see you. >> hey, i've been to dixville notch, by the way, and the other thing -- >> you can still get their vote. >> i've called -- i've called
them all again. so we'll see, megyn. thank you. god bless. >> great to see you. all the befrst. you, too. even before the weekend debate began, there was one awkward moment that left abc news facing some questions. howie is here on that. plus the never-ending fight between ted cruz and kcnn. also the fight between trump and bush has reawched new levels of ugly. mark, dana, and steve hayes are here next on how it could play out in tomorrow's vote. ♪
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breaking tonight, we are seeing a new side of governor jeb bush as he ramps up his attack against donald trump. and this weekend is got personal. first, governor bush and mr. trump at the new hampshire debate in a fierce back and forth over the issue of eminent domain watch. >> how tough is it -- >> a lot of times. >> -- to take away property from an elderly woman? >> quiet. >> a lot of times -- a lot of times -- >> then yesterday governor bush turned it up a notch. >> here's a sign of real weakness. when you call john mccain or anybody else that was a p.o.w. who served this country in a way that should be admired, american
heroes, calling them losers, donald trump, you're the loser. [ applause ] >> joining me now, steve hayes, fox news contributor and senior writer of "the weekly standard." dana perino, coast of "the 5," good to see you all. >> good to see you, megyn. >> a firing jeb. i haven't seen a lot of standing ovations with jeb but got it with that attack. effective? >> i thought it was an effective moment. in that debate clearly he won the exchange over he and donald trump over the issue of eminent domain. jeb made the -- >> trump said i walked away. jeb said, you were trying to go after this old lady and take her property for your limousine
parking lot. trump said i walked away from that deal. trump said, because you lost the lawsuit. >> right. exactly. it wasn't exactly right what trump had said. i think that was a good moment for jeb and i think he deserves credit for continuing to point out the flaws in donald trump's candidacy. i mean, both -- whether you're talking about, you know, his character as bush was saying there, or his policy issues. >> i want to show you a moment that happened just moments ago on the campaign trail where trump was at a rally and one of the women in the crowd said a naughty word that is another word for cat. and here's what happened. >> they asked ted cruz serious questions, well what do you think of waterboarding, is it okay? honestly i thought he'd say, absolutely, and he didn't. he said, well, it's -- you know, he's concerned about the answer because some people -- she just said a terrible thing. you know what she said? shout it out because i don't want to. >> [ bleep ]. >> okay.
you're not allowed to say -- and i never expect to hear that from you again. she said -- i never expect to hear that from you again. she said he's a [ bleep ]. that's terrible. terrible. >> so, he's not taking barbara bush's message when it comes to vulgarity in this race. >> no. the other thing is in the clip where jeb bush got the standing ovation, it was when he was talking -- he was talking to a room full of former p.o.w.s, veterans, people in the military, the people that support defense. he was referring back to when donald trump was talking about john mccain and said i don't like losers, losers only get captured. so the direct link is obvious then that he was saying john mccain's a loser because he got captured. what he'll do on this as well is say, i didn't say that ted cruz was a cat, i said -- >> feline? >> i was repeating what the
woman said about him being a cat. >> mark, go ahead, quickly. >> it's interesting, though, however, that jeb bush is the candidate who said donald trump, you can't insult your way to the presidency. >> yeah, if you can't beat them, join them. >> today he said donald trump is a loser, a liar and a whiner. you're talking about message discipline, that's message incoherence. >> let's switch back to what happened at the top of the show tonight with governor christie and governor rubio. first of all, i haven't heard your thoughts on what happened at that debate. your thoughts on the dynamic at the top of the show. >> it was clearly a bad moment for marco rubio. he went back to this canned answer and repeated it in the face of these attacks -- >> it was a bad moment. how bad was it? >> i think it was a bad moment. it wasn't good. he looked like he was rehearsing what he had said like he had it in his mind. i think what he was trying to do is avoid a fight with a candidate poll at 4%, 5%, with the idea that it doesn't do me much good to get into a big brawl with chris christie. i think what really has been missed in much of the commentary
about this over the last couple days is the extent to which he recovered. i mean, the think the second half of the debate, i went -- >> that's what he said to me. >> i went back and re-read the transcript of the second half of the debate, he had terrific exchanges, very good substantive answers but by the time that first commercial break came, everybody had made up their mind about what the story was. >> he has entirely too much time on his hands. your thoughts on it. it was a forensic deconstruction by christie at the debate. i mean, you could see the former federal prosecutor doing what prosecutors do. your thoughts on how he was there and how he was here. >> so much about politics is about timing and how would you in a crowded field like that, how could you have a moment in a debate where you could have a headline? chris christie figured it out. the first thing i thought was that in two debates ago i thought if governor christie says one more time what it takes to be a governor then a senator, so, i mean, everybody has done it, but, yes, that was an important moment for christie. i don't think it was fatal for marco rubio. and i have to say, i think
christie did himself a disservice with his tone and demeanor in the aftermath of it. instead of being a gracious winner, he just wants to, like, rub it in and pound marco rubio's head into it. in the meantime, your interview with marco rubio, he's surrounded by fans. now, i know chris christie couldn't have fans here, but i think it showed that it's not going to be fatal for marco rubio, but it certainly dinged him a bit. >> two ahead, mark. >> it's interesting, marco rubio should have taken a different -- made the same point with different language. >> different words. >> different words. >> as a speechwriter, you know. >> absolutely. i mean, you know, the reality is, he was making a valid point which is central to his campaign. chris christie wants to make this about experience because he's a governor and plays to his strengths. marco rubio's point which is absolutely correct which is that barack obama's problem isn't inexperience, it's the wrong world view. >> but it -- were you not disturbed by that rubio moment at the debate? >> absolutely. >> it seemed like he just got stuck and couldn't get off the same words. it was jarring. >> absolutely. usually when you're a speechwriter working for a
candidate, you come up with three, four ways to say the same thing in a different way. >> it's guidelines. >> right, right. >> but also keep in mind, chris christie did the exact same thing in that debate. when he was asked about drug addiction in new hampshire, he went off and said i'm pro-life, the whole life of the person and that 16-year-old girl who's on the floor in a county lockup, he said the exact same thing three months ago in a speech up here -- >> we have that teed up but don't have time to play it. you're right. he has said that. >> it's called -- >> it's what -- >> it was just jarring to see it over and over when being pressed on the fact that you are so repetitive in a way that sounds canned and robotic which was, i thought, what was so surprising and actually kind of disturbing to watch. great to see you all. >> thanks, megyn. >> more tomorrow. in the final hours before new hampshire, a trio of big-time clinton supporters laying into bernie sanders supporters suggesting women are turncoats if they back him. james rosen is here with the details. then the fallout. and howie is next on beyonce's
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no. >> they're for bernie because that's where the boys -- >> but it's -- >> -- you'd swat me. come on. >> it was an extraordinary moment. the founder of "ms." magazine denounced by women whose career she made possible. calling her remarks alarmingly sexist, calling them profoundly sectist and condescending. stumping for hillary clinton on sunday, madeleine albright who rebuked younger women for thinking of backing bernie sanders. >> and just aremember, there's special place in hell for women who don't help each other. [ cheers and applause ] >> yet, in milford on sunday pr up his attacks on sanders, complained about sexist harassment of his wife's supporters online. >> she and other people who have gone online to defend hillary and explain, just explain why
they supported her, have been subject to virs trocious trollid attacks that are literally too profane often, not to mention sexist, to repeat. >> and, of course, donald trump has made it all too clear he is willing to go after bill and hillary clinton for their past relationships with various women. megyn? >> james, thank you. joining me now with more, founder and executive director of the accountability project. mark hanna who served as a campaign aide for the obama and kerry presidential campaigns. >> hi, megyn. >> how about gloria steinam? bill martin nailed it, if he had said that we'd all be coming down on him. >> nobody should have said that. listen, i love gloria, i cried my way through her latest book. i was deeply disappointed to hear this. i think she's representative of a class of feminists who are sort of out of touch with our generation. you know, we have different feminists issues that we're
fighting. our generation has re-branded feminism, but like bringing it back to the point about bernie sanders, this is a man who had 100% rating from aral and planned parenthood, we're by no means endorsing a man who's out of touch with women, we're voting for bernie sanders because he's attacking the root cause -- >> let me challenge you on that. i was trying to make this point last night on stephen colbert, we have the clip coming up later, this is where the -- you tell any whether i'm wrong -- this is where the feminist movement goes wrong. why does pro-choice or antiabortion, whatever, why does that have to be part of the feminist platform? you know how alienating that is? half the women disagree. half the women in this country are pro-life, half are pro-choice. if you make that part of the platform you're doing what gloria's doing, alienating half of the population, the female population. >> we're talking about democratic candidates here so when you look at the feminist democratic candidates and feminist democratic establishment that's a crux issue there, you have to be a
pro-choice woman because that's part of our platform. you know what else is part of our platform? wall street reform. fighting for criminal justice reform. those are things hillary clinton has not been on our side about and bernie sanders has. he might be a man, sure, we'd love to have a woman who is a progressive running -- >> mark hanna, apparently a few years ago gloria steinam said bernie sanders is an honorary woman and talked about him as a feminist. now that he's running against hillary, he's just a man. >> i have no qualms with bernie, he knows and supports women's issues. you said something on your colbert interview, megyn, i thought was brilliant. something everyone can agree with, women should not have to choose between work and family. and that's something that all the women watching last night understand more than men. hillary clinton understands women's issues. she's been fighting for them for 50 years. she understands them on an innate level, on a visceral human level that in a way that bernie sanders will never be able to understand.
and so i think it's just a -- mr. steinam and madeleine albright are outraged that the young women, young millennial women are kind of taking for granted the symbolic and substantive victory this would be for women if hillary clinton becomes the next presidency of the united states. >> go ahead. >> and let's just say, also, if bernie sanders is the candidate, he has about as much chance winning the general election as donald trump has -- >> that's not true. >> -- asking you, megyn, to be his fourth wife. my point is bernie has no shot. no shot. >> i don't agree with that. >> disastrous for women when the supreme court nominee is picked by ted cruz. >> go ahead. >> let's be clear here. hillary clinton when she's running i don't think the turnout is going to be very high. i think democrats need turnout. when an entire generation of our party is being disenfranchised and joining the independent movement, you know, that's a problem. we got to start thinking about the future of our party. maybe we should find more women
to run for president except for one. maybe there's a lot of senators perfectly qualified that probably could have won -- run. >> i want to continue this discussion. there's more to talk about, but we can't tonight because we have another guest. it's great to see you both. >> thank you so much, megyn. also tonight the campaign trail conspiracy that will not go away. the feud between ted cruz and cnn over who was to blame for a report on dr. ben carson that has led to accusations of stealing votes and it's all now escalating again. next on why this isn't going away and what it could mean for the campaign. what super poligrip does for me is it keeps the food out. before those little pieces would get in between my dentures and my gum and it was uncomfortable. just a few dabs is clinically proven to seal out more food particles. super poligrip is part of my life now. test. test.
feud between cnn and senator ted cruz is ramping up again. today marks a week since the bickering began over who's to blame for the suggestion during the iowa caucuses that dr. ben carson was dropping out. just this weekend, senator cruz defended the campaign again. >> on monday night about 6:30 p.m. cnn reported that ben was not going from iowa to new hampshire or south carolina. rather he was, quote, take a break from campaigning. cnn reported on that. they didn't correct that story until 9:15 that night. i apologized to him then and i do so now. >> cnn issued a statement after the debate suggesting senator
cruz's remarks, quote, categorically false. and on it goes. howard kurtz, so, does it boil down to cnn sent out a corrective tweet saying he's still in the race but didn't report it on the air i guess until a significant time after or at least that's cruz's defense. >> cnn didn't really have to correct anything. the initial report said in a highly unusual move ben carson going off the trail. >> led us all to say, oh, when's happening with carson? >> cnn didn't say dropping out, suspending. but the voicemails and i confirmed authentic talked about suspending the campaign. he should move on. >> he was asked about it at the debate. >> yes, no. >> he was asked. >> he should have said it was wrong. he blamed cnn and didn't do anything wrong. the thing is the fallout over this controversy, a week latter, still talking about it. i think kind of cast a shadow on
the win in iowa and kind of took the oxygen away from it and not made much news since. >> let's talk about beyonce. how did she tick people off? >> a halftime show with people in black panther-like uniforms, black power salute and singing a song and the video version on top of a police car sinking and giving the finger and so forth. people found it offensive to law enforcement. i long for the days we argued about janet jackson's nipple. >> did you say the n-word? it's okay. it's almost 10:00. >> i don't understand why cbs allowed this. it's a wonderful family event and this injected a note of racial and political divisiveness. she can do her protests. i don't think the halftime is the appropriate spt. >> very charmed. what happened with the introductions? very weird. >> biggest train wreck. every high school football team knows how to do this. number 44, left tackle, all right, did on out.
carson didn't hear. piled up. watching it. you know? here's one saving grace of that. two hours of scripted sound bites at least an unscripted moment and kind of amusing and pretty awful. >> could happen to any one of us. great to see you. we'll be right back. except that managing my symptoms was all i was doing. and when i finally told my doctor, he said humira is for adults like me who have tried other medications but still experience the symptoms of moderate to severe crohn's disease. and that in clinical studies, the majority of patients on humira saw significant symptom relief. and many achieved remission. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common,
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it's not to talk about it but to do it. and i love the steve martin motto. be so good they can't ignore you. >> thoughts on that on twitter. see you tomorrow night as we get results in new hampshire. > . tonight -- >> it is going to be i think something special tomorrow. >> the new hampshire primaries only hours away and donald trump looks to capitalize on his lead in the polls. he is here tonight. >> in the state of iowa, we saw that old reagan coalition coming back together. >> after winning in iowa, ted cruz is aiming for a repeat in the granite state. >> the gop contender will join us. >> there's a special place in hell for women who don't help each other. >> and hillary clinton's campaign gets desperate and plays the gender