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could make a big difference over time. i'm going to be even better about saving. you can do it, it helps in the long run. prudential bring your challenges it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." all eyes are on texas where the gop candidates will face off in their tenth debate in a few hours from now with 155 delegates, the lone star state will be the biggest prize of the primary season so far. a lot at stake super tuesday, just five days away. texas is the home state of senator cruz and the latest poll averages show him ahead of trump for now. but trump doesn't appear to be concerned. >> people have not done very well against me. so far, everybody that has
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attacked me has gone down. >> i want to move to senator cruz on. monday, he was talking his talk on the illegal immigration. >> he was very, very weak on illegal immigration. now he's getting tough. and he is because he's getting very nervous. i watched him the other day. as he nervous wreck. he didn't thing would happen. now he's in third place, not even second place. it looks like marco rubio has taken over, reasonably solid in second base. and i'm in first place by quite a bit but he has toughened his assistance because he was losing. >> tonight could be do or die for rubio. but they said last night that they're still confident. >> the only campaign that can beat donald and the only campaign that has beaten donald is my campaign. you look nationally, anywhere from 65 to 70% of republicans don't think donald is the right candidate for us to nominate to go up against hillary clinton.
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>> when people not named donald trump, the choices start to narrow and we give voters a clearer choice of who to get behind. i can unify this party, grow this party and i will win this election. >> charles krauthammer has doubts. he warns their campaigns are over if they don't change out their strategy. >> if cruz and rubio continue what they're doing, they're going to lose. cruz has to stop defensively. forget about the liar and the dirty tricks. he got distracted. ended up in a waste of time. and it i think it might apply to rubio. what might work against trump? you want to do a distraction. i think you go after him on the tax returns. >> all right. the tenth debate. gutfeld, are you ready? >> this is going to be ugly. i think it will be the thunder dome without the steel cage. there is one positive thing
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here. we have a doctor on stage. there will be blood and this will be the audition for surgeon general for ben carson when he performs mouth to mouth or does the chest thing. whatever you call that. by the way -- >> resuscitate? >> yeah. >> when it comes to me, don't. when you look at rubio -- >> whoa! >> we might - does rubio look a? it looks like he's running for student body president. have the found of an youth was said to be in florida. >> he is running in one direction. he is really looking good. >> the debate. what do you think will happen? >> well, you know, that lead-in from greg, i think it will be exciting. it is do or die time. it is on the lightning. you have to do it. florida, the numbers are very good. rubio right now, he seems to be
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leaving rubio alone and rubio seems to be leaving him alone. so somebody will have to go on the attack. we're hearing from messaging that perhaps rubio's team is saying let's go after cruz and let's see who ben carson will face. >> cruz has some decent numbers come out today and in his home state of texas doing pretty well. >> he is between 1% and 15% ahead. the question is, can he sustain it? he benefits in part from early voting people, people who voted in the state of texas. he is the senator from texas. he's had a rough road over the last few days and weeks and especially with all the firing of his communications director and charges of liar, liar, liar. even last night donald trump was tweeting that ted cruz is a loser and a liar and why would you trust him in and i love this part where he said, not only was he born in canada. he lived his first four years in
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canada and he only recently changed his citizenship so he doesn't have canadian critics p citizenship. if you want to go with donald trump, you have to go at things like what mitt romney did. what about your taxes? >> we'll get tom. >> but also vladimir putin. you love vladimir putin? come on. let's see how much you like him. if you're a republican and you like paul ryan, what's wrong with paul ryan's stand in regard to medicare? >> we know you know all the numbers. texas is a big one. 155. what are the rest in. >> i'm going to push back a little bit. take other side of a big raucous debate. this is in texas, this is drohi
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home field. the territories, super tuesday, 600 votes. >> you're going to try to test it. >> this will go a good test of his demeanor, his temperament. if he's smart, i won't bite. i'll move on. that's where i think he may who issen up a little bit. super tuesday this coming tuesday. >> the the ted cruz, he has to win texas. he can't just win it, he has to win it well. literally, there is no path. marco rubio, what will he do? you have to win florida. if he's down by -- >> you know the other logical explanation is cruz and rubio, if they want to run another
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time, stay in as long as they can to get the spotlight. >> you know who will be -- >> telemundo. this will be a spanish soap on that rax they'll come after trump about the wall. >> george h.w. bush and mrs. barbara bush will be in the audience. let's look at the governor kasich on the kelly file. give a little pushback. >> i'm raising concern that's a lot of republicans have. they see you and like you but they see you struggling to get above the bottom line. it is a state you saturated with. >> first of all, i'm not sure who those people are. we're holding our own. we intend to keep going. we're not stopping and i'm not
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giving up. that's the end of it. i'm not listening to a bunch of people, insiders in washington, d.c. >> so he's the outsider. >> did you ever notice when you ask him a question, he says no, that's not the case and then he answers. that's it. >> i can tell you didn't have a hot to say. >> his people are saying they're very tired of everybody saying, you get out. they issued a statement, hey, marco rubio, you get out so you're not the blocker. we have a path because we can carry later states. >> stay in if you want to stay in. if he has infrastructure and support, do what you want until a certain point. does it have to be today? there's the debate and super tuesday. >> if he were realistic, he would step aside. if he does win ohio. the latest has him neck in neck.
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if he does win ohio, he gets the 66 ohio votes that a rubio or a cruz would need to compete. you need him. it is a winner take all state. if he wins it and then drops out after, those votes don't to go someone else. they stay in his column until the convention. so donald trump or someone else could go ahead and become the nominee and those 66 votes could have made a difference. by the way, he is polling behind everyone in a lot of the states coming up. >> can i show a little clip of one of your friends? >> this is dr. ben carson. >> let me start, really? just beginning? >> absolutely. 5% of the delegates have been selected already. we've got a long way to go. it is like a baseball fame. everybody wants to call the game after the first inning. >> we talked about this the other night on special election coverage. he came in second to last in nevada. he has come in about that in
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every other contest. he vows to go on and he says this is just the beginning. what does he mean? >> he means, i don't know, he is on a mission and it is religious. he believes that much as he did amazing surgery, that incredible things will happen. and his point, if you take him seriously. he thinks there is a lot of opportunity for thing to explode. it could be at the debate tonight. it could be that somebody gets sidetracked. it could be that people learn some information. let's say at tonight's debate, they start giving visas to people, his state in florida. i don't know about trump and immigration. i don't know. that's what he is saying. >> that's a terrible strategy to sit back and wait. in these debates, he always does the thing like you informing that i'm here.
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it is up to him to make himself memorable. why is it, this idea, it just started. you should start a fire to quote billy joel. >> his thinking is, trust in god. and trust in other people coming to you and this miracle will occur. >> last thought. >> the seventh inning stretch? >> maybe, that may be because he hand really done much politicking before. >> i think it is like that already. don't forget, cruz and rubio beat the crap out of each other before they realized we'd better -- >> do i get credit for knowing what a seventh inning stretch is? >> trump hits back at romney after the nominee suggested
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there could be a bombshell hidden in the 2016 hopefuls. we've got that controversy next.
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mitt romney has yet to endorse a candidate. if he does, it doesn't sound like it will be trump. he is holding his feet to the fire for not showing his tax returns yet. >> i think we have good reason to suspect a bombshell. either he is not nearly as wealthy as he says he is or he
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hand been paying the taxes we expect him to pay or perhaps he hand been giving money to the vets or the disabled like he's been telling us he's doing. and i think that's the reason that i think there's a bombshell in there. every time he is asked about his taxes, he dodges and delays. >> well, trump doesn't seem to feel pressured by romney's provocation. >> nobody has been bringing it up except mitt romney. the reason he brings it up is he lost in the last election and lost very badly. i get audited every year. we'll make determination over the next couple of months. it is very complicated. >> does that mean you will release it? >> no. i'll make determination. i'll be making a determination over the next couple of months, we'll make that determination. absolutely. >> his opponents all say they have no problem releasing theirs. >> absolutely. i'll release the remainder of what we have this week.
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i've released five years worth. >> they're not very complicated. they're not very exotic. that won't be an issue for me. we'll be very glad to release tax returns. i don't know. we'll figure out what the right years are but we don't have anything to hide there. >> i'll release them for however many years will satisfy people. nothing to hide. not a problem. the one thing i can guarantee people about me. there are no scandals. >> aah, a great show. >> what do we make of the money situation? this is your chance to talk math. >> so if people really want to see it, go ahead. i have no doubt no matter what he releases, whatever. it wasn't 28% tax you paid. 8% tax. or you didn't give this amount of money to this or that group. donald trump has done thing far worse, oh, okay, it goes away.
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i don't know why mitt romney, it doesn't make sense to me. he was so mad when harry reid did it to him. he released his tax returns in january. he released one year of tax returns and it wasn't a full return. he released it in september of 2012 after he was already the nominee. if you want to see it, check it out. go see it. it feels like this is a democrat tactic. >> wait a minute. >> republicans there dethis to mitt? to trump's defense, we know rich people's tax returns are very weird. rubio did the short form at h & r block. so it is quite different. i think did he mention to romney in 2012, how is this any different than asking about somebody's citizenship? it is the same thing. i think screwing around with people, correct? that's what they're doing.
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they're screwing around with each other. >> tell us why it is relevant. >> i don't know what the law says but let's say that you are going to be nominated to the supreme court. in order to get that nomination, one of the things that you have to turn over and the press gets a chance to look at are your tax returns. and i can't remember if it is five or ten years. to be a public servant, which the president of the united states is, aer servant to the people of the united states. i agree pits complicated. and i agree that it seems a little odd and a little late. but i do think there was a ton of pressure from the other republican candidates on mitt romney to release his tax returns. and rerk mitt romney was page as the rich guy who doesn't pay enough taxes. although he gave about 40% of his charity. with the rich guy who didn't
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care about people like you. so it will be relevant in a general election for sure. >> it's relevant right now. >> what about discrimination? >> that's why romney -- >> and 1%'s. show me your tax returns. >> rubio is not a rich guy. they want everybody. >> and no money. >> i think your point is on target here. remember, romney when he released it. it turned out he paid 14%. wait a second. you're playing less than the secretary in the warrenuffett thing. if donald trump is paying less and he is going to make america great again. then it will look like yes, you've been ripping off the system. >> or maybe he'll show how to do
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it. >> if it does come out. >> i think it could have an ikt pact. the media is going to come after him on these very points. >> you have to prepare. >> you have to prepare. this is going to come up no matter what. >> and as he rich guy, right? so his taxes are relevant. >> i would say his last five to ten years. like dana said. >> that's what the supreme court says. >> as he rich guy so therefore his taxes are relevant. my point is the standards should apply to everybody. rich or poor. >> but he runs as i'm rich, i'm successful and that's why you should vote for me. >> i want to see bernie sanders's tax returns. do you think he files. >> up until he was 40 years of age, he didn't have a job.
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as the head of homeland openly worries about another terrorist attack on our turf, apple says the unlocking an iphone would be ", bad for america. he says overriding security would make it easy for crooks to do the same thing. here's another way to look at i. world war ii. back then car companies
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converted their businesses to making planes and tanks. sure, fdr made him do it but they got on board. people collected tin cans to mash them into war material. everybody pitched in. wrigley's gum started a women's baseball league since so many men were at war. so do you think there is a lot of hand wringing? my guess is there was no pot stirring. those were different times. this is a different time touring. the battlefield is here. the enemy suicidal, the kamik e kamikazes walk among us. this stance seems very small. but i'm sure his silicon valley pals are patting him on the back but what if that phone contained information for their loved ones. i'll bet what's best for america wouldn't matter. is it posturing because he doesn't want to be a pariah?
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>> i think he believes that the encryption is such an important aspect of his phone that a lot of his company's businesses are based on that. there is always test that goes on. on this, you watch the apple stock. it literally moves on what the latest testimony is. if we to break the encryption, i would bet you 10,% of that goes south. no one wants to be on the front end of that. can i offer a solution? apple hasn't come out with another version. iphone 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, even 6 came fast. make your next generation different. break this one and move. on you'll sell even more. >> that's what they're going to do. this is like big cry baby tears in sill cone valley blowing over all this like katrina. grow up. keep the country safe. this is about them trying to that isture. great, the terrorists love you,
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apple. >> you talk to the cato industry. they have the biggest problem they have is when government tells private business what to do. there's your line in the sand. >> then you have liberal that's love when it businesses tell, when government tells businesses what to do and then they love this. there is an analogy which i thought was really interesting. what if you killed a dozen people? but in your house was a room filled with evidence. that's what an iphone is. if the police can get a warrant and get into that tiny room, this phone is a tiny room. filled with evidence. >> other thing in that same p podcast you sent, they were talking about the murder and they were talking right before they got murdered and you're not allowed, law enforcement can't get into the phone to see what was happening on the text before the murder. imagine you're law enforcement and you're the fbi and you're
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looking at the san bernardino families, and there is this encryption thing and we can't get in. that seems very unsatisfying to law enforcement. >> my point -- >> and for justice. >> a book on war efforts by businesses during world war ii. >> isn't it similar? should not tim cook look at this and say this is about america. we should be doing something. we should be doing our part to prevent terror in. >> no. as you pointed out. fdr forced the car company. >> but the fbi, he should oblige the fbi. >> i think so. i'm listening to this very carefully. i think the difference to be frank, it is a conflict between your liberty in material of your privacy rights, constitutional rights, and national security. the whole national security apparatus, you pointed out jay johnson. it is also jim comey at the fbi, justice, they all agree.
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and they have a judge on their side with a subpoena saying, give it up, give it up. >> with a court order. >> and they can be held in contempt. jail them. >> but you get cato. libertarian. you get other people satisfying it is a slippery slope. and he is somebody who lost his wife in 9/11. so it's not like he's indifferent. the key from their perspective, if you stay government can have a key, a back door, i think key used the example. we want to see what dana is up to. >> dog pictures. >> it won't be all or in this. people have common sense. we need this. >> one more thing.
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new york city police commissioner say if you do break it. we have a slippery slope. is it domestic? >> if a killer has a box in his house filled with evidence, the police get a warning go in. this is a box filled with evidence. >> i got it. i want into the box. >> i would assume you would agree with me. >> absolutely. i always go with the people who agree with me. >> there you go. you're such a closer. >> i was just hitting it. >> requesting to the polls in south carolina.
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the democratic primary in
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south carolina is two days away and the candidates know turnout from black voters will be crucial. 53 delegates are at stake. hillary face someday resistance yesterday at a fundraiser from black lives matter activists. they wanted her to apologize. what they said was, you know back in the that '90s, you were for things like, and this was when hillary was associated with the children's defense fund. labeling some kids as super predators who needed to be taken to heal. this woman stands up in the audience. i think you can see her in the video. she has a sign condemning hillary, holding up signs. what do you make of this? >> what is the point? really? you want to take her out? who will help you then? what are you doing? i don't quite get it. now they like sanders and
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socialism. but by the way, hillary clinton and bill clinton have been more supportive in the african-american community and have a record of that than bernie sanders who was like, bear hugging venezuela. >> this is the second time that she's been interrupted by black lives matter. >> they used that super predator comment. she basically said the gangs. the gang violence in the '80s and '90s. she said there's a super predator emerging that is becoming a big problem. she used that. that encompassed not just black gangs. it was asian gangs and hispanic gangs, white gangs. so using that was a miss team of hillary was not only there when bill clinton put forth the 1994 crime bill, she stumped for it. she was on talk shows. she would go out into cities and talk about why the was so important to bring the level of crime down.
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that '94 crime bill didn't bring crime down. there were a lot of issues that brought crime down. economic issues, more handguns, for whatever reason. but she can't say, i didn't have anything to do with. that that really ticks off the african-american community. >> i don't think that she said she has nothing to do with it. but dana, the point that eric is making is totally legit. higher rates of incarceration tied to that crime bill. >> look. somebody that is a protester, a college student that comes to yell at you doesn't have a lot of patience for to you explain to them. let me take you back to what it was like in the 1990s when families were coming to us, pleading with us. >> black families. >> congressional black caucus, almost all supported that crime bill. >> that was my point but greg made it well. >> i appreciate what you're saying. >> they don't have a lot of time when you're, you're on camera. you're running for president. so he think you do is being scrutinized and you don't have time to say, let me go back.
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>> i suggest you let dana talk about that their but let's give hillary a chance. >> oh, i said that was a poor choice of words. and never used it before. never used it since. and looking back, i should not have used those words. i certainly wouldn't use them today. i think what is important, my life's work. it's not about lifting up children and young people who have been let down by society who never got the chance they deserve. >> so that was hillary clinton, that young woman holding the sign in front of clinton at last night's fund-raiser. greg, it is having some impact on the campaign. as you know, hillary clinton right now among black voters is like 68-21. among black people under 45, it is much more sim that a athleticic, she is only 52-35. >> but hillary's problem isn't
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welcome back. time for the fastest -- you know about the seven minutes in television. three extraordinary stories, seven expeditious minutes, one expedient host. reading mean tweets about his support for hillary clinton. >> elmore, boo!
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boo! to you too. mad tv sucks. okay. i'm going to say it's a joke. i wasn't on mad tv. he was on "snl." >> joke. march 1st. i home you'll get out and caucus for hillary and keep the tweets coming. >> from experience, reading your own mean tweets. >> i could top that. believe me. he was not even very funny. it's a good concept. i kind of like it. i think people would like on it their phone. >> it is also not a new concept. remember, what his most popular book was. rush limbaugh is a big fat idiot and other observations. so he was way ahead of twitter in infantile cruelty. >> since i can't see without my glasses, i can only see the
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ones, everybody gets them of it doesn't bother me. it really doesn't. >> well, i'm the only one around here who is so old. i don't bother anymore. >> you guys take it so seriously. i think it would hurt your feelings. >> i'm over. never more people than in the last week. it's a girl by choice. they will reveal their decision to have a science baby and of course, haters going to hate. coming under fire after telling "people" magazine, she picked the sex of her baby while going through fertility treatments. not only i am a going a girl but i picked the girl from her little embryo. i picked her and was like, let's put in the girl. a bunch of hateful tweets in between. not being one to back down, stop
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looking here for someone to be mad. a there are so many other things that deserve your outrage. what do you think about picking the gender? >> i don't know enough about the specifics of that situation. i think there are facilities in places that you go to do inviet row. they vert lifertilize. that's the way science is going. i think it is personal choice. the whole focus is, you really don't care. when you have a healthy baby, that's all that matters. >> when you think about the way the chinese, for example, prefer boys. and you start to think, what's next is do you start picking out eye colors? >> they're already doing it. >> that's happening already. >> i know. i don't like it. i don't think it is good for the world. >> i think that not this particular situation but this issue is one of the biggest of our generation. and do you know who i would love to have a sit down with charles
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krauthammer who was over bioethics committee at the white house years ago and maybe a few other scientists who. and listen to them. moralists and ethicsists. all of that is already happening. especially overseas and we might not be able to stop it. >> i agree. what if you decide you don't want a gay child? what if you can find a way to eliminate that? how will people feel about that? left-handedness? you don't want a red head. we'll have a bunch of boring people who look like david duke. >> what they're saying, they're trying to get to the point gentleally where they can pick out a healthy child. >> but if you start taking stuff out of the gene pool, you are messing with nature. and you don't know what the long term consequences are. >> i want a half boy, half dog. >> you want jasper. >> the brit awards in london last night.
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unlike the grammys, she did not suffer a microphone malfunction this time. ♪ >> i have no idea if i'm supposed to say goodbye. >> she's beautiful. beautiful and talented. i love listening to her. >> is there anybody who doesn't like adele? >> i never heard one of her songs by choice. i always hear it somewhere he will i have never said i'm going to listen to an adele song. though she has a beautiful voice. >> unlike what happened here, there was no microphone malfunction. then the sound started. and i thought why is it so faint? it sounds like she's singing in a cathedral. >> we'll get back to you. >> audio?
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it's time for one more thing. and you have no idea what that commercial break was just like. we're going to try to pull it together. >> we were talking about digital rectal exams. >> oh, my gosh. >> time for -- >> do you know who i hate? i hate drug stores.
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i hate walgreens, cvs, you know why? they're turning into super markets that are selling sushi and bacon. last night i went to my local pharmacy to get some toilet paper i left with a pint of pistacchio gelatto and proceeded to eat in front of the tv in five minutes. i was covered in sticky film and i forget horrible about miles of and i felt horrible about myself. i would have just taken home some toilet paper and everything would have been fine. i ate a tub of ice cream. >> you must live in a fancy place where they have gel atto. >> it's in every drugstore now. >> i carry salami and pepperoni there, too. >> why are you complaining about bacon? juan, you're next. >> so vice president joe biden will make a star turn at the
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oscars on sunday. he'll be introducing bomb star lady gaga. biden who drafted the violence against women act when he was a senator will introduce lady gaga's performance of till it happens to you. a nominee for best original song. it was featured in the documentary, the hunting ground which deals with campus rape. so biden will use the opportunity to promote the white house's anti-sexual assault program called it's us on. and it will put joe biden and dr. jill biden on stage at the oscars. >> where he will declare his presidency. >> candidacy. >> make sure you watch us live. we're on sunday live. quickly, juan, your favorite childhood booking? >> the be chosen. >> ago thank christie books. >> spieder and the fly. >> giving tree. >> and i had so many. my mom. my favorite one was three kittens lost their mittens but i
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chose -- >> independents a strip club. >> why am i asking you this? children reading is so important. the barbara bush foundation center for literacy, they do amazing work. if you don't read as a kid, your life will be much more different. so this was cool. michelle obama and the white house officially announced this new app. it is called open ebook. it allows for all the educators, i won't list them all buff 66,000 title one schools on down to get access to thousands of children's books that you can download to your phone or tablet that you can pass around so everybody in the family, especially for kids this is great. here's michelle obama talking about it. >> do you remember a box that you loved as a child? for so many of us, books opened our minds to a world of possibility. right now, millions of children in america don't that have chance. the new open ebooks app will
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help change that. >>some special education teachers can have access to this. >> very nice. >> all righty. let's talk about the second amendment and guns, shall we? a local business owner with several offices in georgia is now providing weapons for his employees and having, requiring his employees to get a conceal and carry license. he is getting them revolvers. there was a deadly break-in close by and most of his employees women. listen. >> these girls jumped at the opportunity on protect themselves and take it into their own hands. you can't rely on the police to be. there they'll be there sveumy but not when the perpetrator comes. >> protecting women of i love it. >> do me a favor. stay on fox news all night. a big night. a lot going on. at 8:00, i'll be hosting for o'reilly. pat buchanan, the father of the
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anti-establishment movement. a big 8:00 show. then at midnight, a live show at midnight. ben carson and john kasich are in. some big stuff post debate. >> that's it for us. hope to see you. obstruction of justice, and a cover-up. new charges in the intel scandal about the obama administration's campaign against isis. this is "special report." good evening. welcome to washington. serious allegations of a cover-up inside the pentagon with a chairman on capitol hill charging key evidence in the isis intelligence scandal has been destroyed. the pentagon's inspector general and congress have been investigating complaints by intelligence analyst that's their reporting on isis was altered on its way tim chain

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