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preempted her. nobody was watching. kennedy, jedidiah, katherine, bill o'reilly i am greg gutfeld. i love you america. >> all right, hello, everyone, i am here with juan and eric and melissa and this is "the five," at 5 o'clock in new york city. >> welcome to our special "sunday live," of "the five," two days before the most crucial election day yet, super tuesday. will that be the day hillary clinton looks up the democratic race? more on that in a moment. first, to the gone showdown, donald trump is about to hold a rally in alabama and ted cruz will hold one shortly in oklahoma. we are keeping a close eye on that. marco rubio will hold an event in virginia and he and cruz have declared all out war on the
frontrunner in an 111th hour attempt to derail the presidential bid. >> i believe a first-rate con artist is on the verge of taking over the party of lincoln and abe brand. he will not make america great but broke like the four companies. >> 65% of republican primary voters do not think donald trump is the right candidate to go though head with hillary clinton, he agrees with her on too many and he is too vulnerable. >> donald trump fought we fire by fire. >> i calm him little marco, but you know, that is what he is, but he is a nasty guy as is ted cruz, they are nasty and they team up shaking hands before the thing, let's go and their establishment guys no matter how you cut it. >> now he said, a gang of two, a gang of two against the man of one. how do you see this eric? >> all of them have upped the
rhetoric and going at each other down to three we can declare that. >> don't forget gilmore. >> did he ever leave? >> anyway, so we have 12 races that will be decided, 11 states and one territory if i am not mistaken, 600 delegates and donald trump is leading in every single one of the states with the exexception of texas which is 155 delegates and i am pretty sure you need to get at least 50% of vote in texas to be substantially weighted to ted cruz. right now ted cruz is up by nine but alabama, donald trump is in alabama speaking in a few minute, 36-19 rubio. in., 40-22 to marco rubio. on and on and on and on. if he walk out of super tuesday with 40 or 50% of the delegates, march 15, two weeks later is
winner-take-all most the states and it could literally be the end of the road. again, i have said this: momentum and time. momentum is on the side of trump. one of the other two has to drop and my dress is ted cruz would have to drop out to be the alternate to donald trump so they can call the nontrump vote...guys...that will happen soon. >> i think it should happen today. but it will not happen. if you get through super tuesday with wins for trump, another thought: the polls have been amazingly accurate with the exception of iowa, the first one, after that every single poll was hit to the number. trump is polling, gaining the vote he was polling going into the primaries and if this happen s again, count the delegates... >> greg, it is getting nasty back-and-forth and mocking each
other. >> it is terrible. sunday is the lord's day and it is death race, we are not seeing debate over deliverance. no one has a pretty mouth. we have been for the longest time we have been diluting donald trumponing blunt. we laugh. it is funny. why not afford the same houror for the others? it is too lame for them, perhaps, but they are finally doing what they should be doing and more important, why are we leading with this when the oscars tonight? you called out a red carpet but it is a white carpet. >> i have never been this. is that right? >> maybe it is because chris rock is hosting. racist. >> welcome to the table, melissa. i will ignore those two. >> a it is sunday! >> more on "the prevalent --
"the revenant." >> i do not wish for returning, this country is a mess and people and the candidates are reflecting what a disaster it is right now and there is the mice get together and say, wait, a great idea to hang a bell around the neck of 9 cat and no one wants to do it because every mouse is eating unless they charge at once so they go at trump one by one and they have been eating and it does not look like it will get better. >> do you advocate eating cats? >> mice. mice. mice. mice. mice. the appetizers. >> you talk about the anger and the overall discontent in the country with politics as usual and trump focused on that, reflecting on why he is resonating with so many people because of the anger that men
republicans feel. >> i a not representing myself but representing a lost anger out there and we are angry at 9 way the country is run and a lot of them are angry at the way the republican party is being run. >> what do you think of the use of term "anger," and focusing specifically a republican, the republicans are angry? >> there is no question he is right, a lot anger. the angle he is ignoring he plays to at the love the fears. he escalateing the fear among republicans by playing to the issues from immigrants and i could go on, even throwing powe. for me the news here, i agree with melissa, when they are going back-and-forth and playing the dozens and calling each other names and little marco and this guy has a spray can and all the rest and he is a nasty guy and a liar, you see the
republicans hurting themself concern it comes to the general election. it looks like a party that is dysfunctional. they are breaking apart. >> the most important engine behind success is critical thing ing. if a candidate does not go after each other you can bet that hillary clinton is compiling everything together to go after whether it is trump or rubio or cruz. an certificate not reason but an emotion. this looks like a fight between two but not the lincoln-dougless debate. but it will be helpful. >> i don't think hillary clinton would call him little marco and suggesting the other guy is a liar. >> here is how it is helpful. >> in iowa, saw the turnout, saw the turnout in nevada and south carolina, we are breaking records on the g.o.p. side for time out. that is how it is helpful.
>> you took my point and flipped it to the other side. i was not saying republicans are hurting themselves but it reflects how people who are not the intellectual elite, not the political elite, not sitting inside television studios and this is how real people feel and it is refreshing to hear the name-calling because they are sick of how it is run and the country is a mess, they think, like someone is waking up. >> it is entertaining. it captured my attention and i am a democrat, and it captured my attention. it is great tv. >> before primary and before a caucus you said this is really entertaining and they will come out and watch him and wait and listen to him an hour and they will go home but they will not vote. >> that was the question. they did vote. that was a legitimate question. >> what he is saying is resonating and good for the party to have a lot of people
voting. >> you are missing the key point. that is a question that republicans were asking: will trump supporters who enjoy his name-calling, will they vote? they have. but going forward, how do independents and democrats react? in fact, they are going to react, my gosh, it is trump, we have to save the country. they will come out in larger numbers and a lot of women working antagonized by the name-calling. he will not win in the general election. >> i give you that. >> you are assuming that woman don't have the stomach. we do. we want change. we want someone who will do something. >> i am talking about bullying and name-calling. >> we want someone who will make positive changes. >> everyone does but bullying and name-calling is unattractive. >> women are showing up to vote. and john kasich revealing when he may drop out as he makes a
stunning admission about super tuesday. >> it is critical for thin who is left in the race to be able to win their own home state. if you can't win your own home state you feed to get out. we go to ohio. i will win ohio. if i don't i will call it over. donald trump will probably win all of them but you keep holding your own and we have our campaign plan. >> what is that will set can pain plan? >> for kasich, obviously at the debate while everyone was taking off their gloves he put on a prom dress. i don't know what was going on but he said i will stay out of this, like contribution chris when he took out rubio's legs and then he endorsed donald trump. how weird was that, where trump crossed chris christie out for endormant and tells christie to get on a plane. you can go now, get away, treating him like hired help. >> he did another hour on same after that. it was true.
i was like, what happened to christie? and trump goes back, mean joy the crowd for an hour. >> had to watch it live. >> christie was the opening act and donald trump is the main liner, and he is like, you got do go. can't stay. >> it was brilliant strategy because the debate happened and people said, was marco rubio nailing him and you felt the shift and chris christie shut the door on that with that christie thing, and donald trump is endorseed by chris christie and could be endorsed by a senator in a few minutes, and there is christie right now, so it was smart. 9 news cycle was going back to rubio and he said i got this. very good timing. thank you is video of the crucial momentum shutting the door when he came out, i. support him, and someone who had all of the support. [ inaudible ]
>> but christie has his term up in 18 so he cannot run again so he is looking for a job. >> no, no, no, he is still getting revenge on marco rubio. politics always look for the grudge. >> not about building bridges, only blocking them. >> i was saying in politics, pay back is -- i will stop there. >> if you have an itch we will scratch it because we have much more to come on this special sunday "the five," including hillary clinton south carolina blow out, a review of the oscars and more.
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>> on friday when donald trump found he was endorsed by david duke he said he disavowed it and today, this. >> i don't know anything about david duke. i don't know anything about what you are talking about with white supremacy so i don't know...did he endorse me? what is going on? >> there are groups and victims endorsing you, without say you condemn them and don't want their support? >> i have to look at group. i don't know what group you are talking about. you would not want me to condemn a group i know nothing about. >> opponents pounced.
>> he knows exactly who david duke is. he was asked this morning two times, will you repudiate and condemn the kkk. he refused to do that, as well. >> we cannot be a party that nominates someone who refuses to condemn white supremacists and the ku klux klan. >> donald trump refused to disassociate himself and condemn white supremacists. each day it is another thing. yesterday i listened to the -- that is horrific, right? >> ted cruz tweeted out, really sad donald trump you are better than that, we should all agree ratism is wrong and kkk is abhorrent. your thoughts on the back-and-forth? >> i researched and trump's special cereal is special kkk. >> thee this the day before in a press conference and --.
>> live. >> and he had negative things to say about duke 15 years ago but i don't necessarily remember someone not remembering that but trump has a great memory. this is a parallel to president obama, i cannot remember which election, the reelection or the first election, the new black panther hanging out at polling stations and we at "the five," were outraged and people were there saying this is horrible, president obama should do something about it but it was not his fault he has crazy followers, so, if you are -- if you say that about president obama you got to say it about trump. he may not be responsible for this. there are people that think maybe he does not want to alien ail the fan base that are white nativists. i don't see trump as a bigot. i don't see it. >> there is no there, there, just them trying to get some points is do what they can but this is politics. get something like that you will
ride the horse all the way to the barn. that is what they are trying to do. i don't know he is a racist or a bigot or supports the kkk or david duke. he said david duke, okay, he endorsed me i was not aware. i disavow, next question. >> there is work to be done, super tuesday for a reason and that is why we are here now going wall to wall. a lot to cover as far as states coming up and who will take this. it is everything at stake. >> this is too big, race in america especially now before the southern primaries i don't think he can use that behavior. >> what kind? >> you close your eyes and say you don't want me to disavow someone i don't know about. >> but he did. >> but you are talking about something a while back. >> open friday. >> we did not produce --. >> in this moment --.
>> disavowed in a moment. >> ahead of the primary it is convenient not to disavow and i tell you what bothers me. >> on friday --. >> juan, you are --. >> i will say something. when you use this kind of wording it has particular power because so much of the anger that donald trump is talking about give voice to is really anger and a white populist movement and they are angry about a lot of things. he talks about immigrants in a way, muslims in such a way and i don't think you would say any of them, donald trump doesn't have any kind of --. >> but at the speech on friday they surprise him with it and he off the cuff the answer was, david duke, i disavow that and now he is badgered repeatedly on the same front. at going of the interview he said i don't support david duke, no, no, no, and they kept asking until he said something that could be used, well, i don't know what group he is with now.
>> he should, like with obama you are not responsible for the weird owes that like you but if there are vocal weird owes that obviously are part of a movement, you have to say, especially if you are moving to the john election and you want everyone else to be comfortable, because you are unknown quantity and you want to be none you have to say, i disavow all bigotry and racism. these people are notes. they make me sick to my stomach and go away. >> move on. >> blow out for hillary clinton in south carolina and a huge spring board for her as the race goes nationwide. it is important. super tuesday, and bernie sanders' last stand. that is next. shoulders don't just carry pads. they carry your fans' passions, hopes, and dreams and maybe, a chance at greatness...
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>> hillary clinton obliterated bernie sanders in south carolina brother ming her into super tuesday with a wave of momentum and it could be impossible for bernie sanders to surround. he accepted defeat in south carolina but predicts big wins in other states. >> we goes decimatessed george, decimated. the only thing is we won the 29 years of age and younger vote and that was good but we got killed. i'm in minnesota now and we think we will do very well in minute machine on super tuesday, colorado we will do well, oklahoma we will do well, we will win in massachusetts and i plaintiff we will win in vermont and do better than people think in other states. >> hillary clinton appears to be moving on from bernie sanders and setting sights on the good who could lockup the republican nomination.: despite what you
hear we don't need to make america great again america has atmosphere stop being great but we need to make america whole again. instead of building walls, we need to be tearing down barriers . we need to show by everything we do we are in this together. >> it is unbelievable but it looks to me going into the super tuesday that there is not much in the south that would indicate bernie sanders will breakthrough or hold hillary clinton back as we go crass. >> here is the problem in your party: those are paid for already. the bag with the cash is taken care of. she is bought all the super delegates, bernie sanders will get cheated out of this and that is what is happening. >> wait, wait, wait, you think the african machines voting in south carolina were bought? >> i did not say that, you are trying to like get a soundbite. >> what are you saying?
>> i said nothing about african-americans. >> i saiding in about them being paid off. don't put words in my mouth. >> who is it? >> i am telling you this whole caucus the way it want down that bernie sanders is the one of the candidates that has the momentum people are enthused about not someone with the worst credibility lying rating in the history of candidates like hillary clinton and this is bought and paid for and it is done. she has all of the super delegates, so this is just sort of like invisible ride on the stationery bicycle she is the nominee. >> that is a point, the delegate count is overwhelmingly in favor of hillary clinton. do the math. it is done. >> thank you. >> put that she did so well inning is second which she did with the african american vote. >> that was expected.
>> heavy african-american vote but it is over. she has it. it is locked up. >> what a likable guy but -- the. >> he would be great on "the five." >> cranky, cranky. >> no, no, an older version of greg. >> the point that kimberly was making is good, because if i were a democrat i would be so mad and feel so cheated if i voted in the primary my vote did not count for anything all the college students she had the super delegates locked up ahead of time, we heard that and we knew it. there was never a race to begin with and this was never an election. it is like vladimir putin running to for president of russia. >> she won south carolina and nevada and iowa so...what are you saying? >> it would not matter. >> she was up by 600 delegates. >> do you get that? basic math. >> she lost one and almost tied
two so she -- the vote count was so close but she had 600-73. >> the coin toss, she won every when. >> deck of cards. >> what is interesting is bernie sanders said it is not over. he said he is going up to minnesota. >> it may not be over because she could lock it up on tuesday but she could be locked up next month and will get to know inmates while bill gets do know playmates. the republican nominees, potential nominee has that reagan and abraham lincoln and thomas jefferson doesn't have, hillary clinton as on opponent she is less liked than smog, termite and maroon 5. she has the gall to tack about making america hole when she has campaigned only on division and putting one group against the other and acts like she will bring everyone together, the only way she can bring people together and on the universal
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using bat word to describe the law, and he said there are 30,000 people at the rally and got the endorsement of jeff sessions senior sent from alabama who helped with immigration views and staffers of sessions are participating. we we are given to believe that is what the announcement 8 be. he had a rough start with a lot of issues with questions of whether he was going to disavow and denounce david duke the former grand wizard of the kkk and the rivals, marco rubio and ted cruz have pounded him all day but the name-calling is a three way fight. it was one sided when donald trump was throwing the punches and now he confirmed the help dormant of sessions and now marco rubio and ted cruz are pounding him with the same type
of insults, looks, fashion, face, his hair, and his character and integrity. it has been rough day for all of us. >> we are waiting on that and we heard that sessions could endorse donald trump but it is helping, and trump has 36-19-point lead, over marco rubio in alabama. what about texas? what is the feeling on texas? where does he think he is? >> he recognizes that ted cruz is the senator from texas has home field advantage. mr. sessions is with him on stage and it is another place where trump is getting support from washington and saying ted cruz does not have spoor forker from any members of congress or members of the senate, rather, and does it matter? of course. ted cruz has to win texas. trump is prepared to not win it
but in talking to the campaign staff and some aides, they think he will win everything else and that will be a huge, huge thing in the vehicle terrorism the image of the wins but when it comes to delegate count, if trump pulled it off, say, eight or nine wins in the 11 states that are having primaries with binding elections, it puts a cork in it. it would be impossible for marco rubio or john kasich to much can up even if they won their home state, ohio and florida and two weeks on the 15th. >> karl, it is kimberly it looks exciting. listen, i am looking at the after affect of what is going on with the back and forth between marco rubio and trump and it seeps like the person that could be getting the most hurt by this is ted cruz who has sucked the wind out of his campaign and momentum going into super tuesday and it could hurt him in
the states he was trying to put forth the showing. >> it is extrapolated on what we are talking about if ted cruz wins whom state of toes next donald trump wins the rest, it is not a good day for ted cruz having won the home state and nothing else. there is no momentum in that and trump will dominate the coverage. both marco rubio and cruz demonstrated in the debate a few nights ago standing on either side of donald trump they are capable of making an alliance and tag teaming donald trump which has been go on pretty much every day since and trump has been saying things about marco rubio saying he has big ears and calling him little marco and things like that and rubio has now begun throwing things back at home say he has a special spray an and sue whoever did that. this is not that political but it is very personal and they are trying to tear each other down on that level. it could entertain the voters but it will not inform them.
>> we saw sessions "maker america great," the signature red hat. >> karl, it is so interesting --. >> jeff sessions --. >> this endorsement of sessions, again, sessions is viewed as an establishment figure by most republicans in washington as chris christie but here they are going with trump even as other elements much the republican establishment now are throwing endorsements at marco rubio but looking for an alternate to trump. what is behind the sessions endorsement. >> sessions is the most staunch immigration reform critics, the comprehensive immigration reform that marco rubio and others have been criticized for supporting as am fast. it is something that jeff sessions has been one of the most staunch fighters in the senate. when donald trump was looking to put his immigration plans on paper something he did was very
closely mirror jeff sessions' position. i look at immigration position on his web page there are passages of it that look very much as though they were borrowed from jeff sessions and as i said some of the sessions staffer are working with trump. as the alabama senator has said, donald trump is a guy would has captured the imagination of what he said is 30,000 people here and when he talk about border security they go notes. they love it. >> unlike me you are an actual journalist and we have heard that donald trump talk about opening up the libel laws and i wonder should people who are pro trump in the media, if trump were elected are they electing a second boss?
>> well...no. we are not electing a boss. it is interesting to note that trump likes to say he is the best deal maker and likes to make deals litigates, he sue as. some of the deals are derived from lawsuits. whether it is libel or slander or calling everyone a lying liar would lies it does not seem like a particularly sophisticated posture to take and if he wants to get permission to sue that sounds like a trial lawyer not a billionaire businessman who said he can fix the country. >> thank you, karl. "the five," heads for a preview of the oscars tonight, and will the boycotts and professors have an impact on the show this evening? we will take you to the red carpet.
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unbelievable. >> a hot one. >> greg? >> first i want to say get well to danas toking her tacos sin 4:00 a.m. and now she has food poisoning, i am mutt say it was chipolte but she has been very, very sick. i plugged the show but it is tonight, we have hannity, and jeda, watch it, you know what will happen on the oscars it will be boring. >> and director wife is sick at home? >> that is right the but she has the flu. >> she does not deserve sympathy or love? >> melissa? >> kinder, more general tell. >> a new lego that,s there like
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congratulations again, sweetheart we are super excited to wake up with you in the morning and so is america. we will see you back here tomorrow on super tuesday eve so keep it on the fox breaking tonight, the countdown to super tuesday is on and donald trump's momentum only continues to build. this while hillary clinton wins big in south carolina. hello. welcome to justice. i'm judge jeanine pirro. thanks for being with us. hillary clinton dominates in south carolina, trouncing bernie sanders. exit polls show hillary won 84% of the black vote. meanwhile, the gloves are off in the race for 2016 as the gop candidates don't hold anything back ahead of super tuesday. take a look. >> i watched chris go after this lightweight rubio.
i call him lightweight. i watched him. i'm sitting here and he's over here, somebody on my left doesn't matter, and he's over here and i see him starting to sweat. like i have never seen anything like it. thank god he has really large ears, the biggest ears i have ever seen, because they were protecting him. i have never seen any human being sweat like this guy. >> he's flying around on air force one and tweeting -- so here's the one tweet he put out. he put out a picture of me having makeup put on me at the debate. which is amazing to me that a guy with the worst spray tan in america is attacking me for putting on makeup. donald trump likes to sue people. he should sue whoever did that to his face. >> what ted cruz did to ben carson was a disgrace. if we had a strong republican
party, they would disqualify him for what he did. >> maybe it is that donald's not as rich as he says he is. i don't know if you heard donald says i'm rich. if you haven't, he'll tell you pretty quickly. now it doesn't hurt that he inherited $200 million from his daddy. that's a very good way to get rich, pick the right daddy. >> it's rubio. >> with me now, fox news contributor and author of the new book "not all roads lead to heaven" dr. robert jeffers, pastor of the first baptist church in dallas. good evening, pastor. >> hi, judge. >> good to see you again. i just saw you a couple days ago in nashville.
hillary clinton, of course, has won south carolina but i want to talk to you about donald trump, because you were with donald trump in texas and have just gotten back. what were the crowds like and how was he received, especially by the evangelicals? >> well, the crowds were enthusiastic in ft. worth and it was there, of course, that he unveiled chris christie's endorsement so chris was there and lots and lots of enthusiasm and look, trump asked me how i thought he would do in texas and i said you know, i can't predict, i think he will do very, very well in texas, but i reminded mr. trump that while trump does not have to win texas, ted cruz absolutely has to win texas or he's finished. >> as it relates to donald trump, when you were introducing him, one of the things that you said was if donald trump doesn't win, that we will have the most pro-abortion president in the
history of this nation. so i assume you're talking about hillary clinton, of course. >> well, it would absolutely be hillary clinton. that's right. she's going to be the nominee. she's going to be the nominee. >> all right. let's talk about donald trump. look, ted cruz, you have got this guy who announces at liberty university and says that he speaks for the conservative movement and all of a sudden, donald trump comes in and all the evangelicals or the majority of them, including yourself, say nice things about him because you can't really endorse him so i'll be careful about that question. but how is it that he appeals to the evangelicals when someone like mitt romney four years ago, the evangelicals didn't even come out? >> judge, there's a bloomberg poll that was taken in south carolina that explains the whole phenomenon of donald trump and evangelicals.
72% of south carolina residents who voted were evangelicals and the poll asked which candidate best represents your values. donald trump was at the bottom of the list. but then the poll asked the question which candidate do you think will challenge the establishment or keep america safe or reinvigorate the economy, donald trump was at the top of the list. i think that explains it all. evangelicals, like most americans, judge, are tired of the status quo which ronald reagan said is responsible for the mess we're in. americans are looking for a leader and increasingly they believe that leader has to come from the outside and are turning to donald trump. >> historically evangelicals have voted based upon their values. so you're saying it's almost a different paradigm now, that it's about security, it's about a leader and wouldn't you say that it's barack obama who has kind of changed that paradigm,
given where people want the outsider today? >> absolutely. i think there's a lot of parallel, judge, to 1980. remember in 1980, the economy was in a shambles, the military was falling apart, we had 50 hostages in iran and that year, americans had two choices for president. the first choice was a truly born again christian who taught sunday school in his baptist church and had been faithfully married to one woman. his name was jimmy carter. the second alternative was a twice married hollywood actor who was governor of california, had signed the most liberal abortion bill in california history and whose wife followed astrology and used it to influence him. his name was ronald reagan. evangelicals went for ronald reagan because he had the quality they thought was most important and that is leadership. i think that is what many evangelicals are looking to
right now. they are looking for a leader. >> there's no question in your mind they are going to be coming out but let's look forward to super tuesday. just 72 hours away. what do you think is going to happen in those southern states? >> well, remember, these southern states or seven of these states are southern or southwestern states that are heavily evangelical. i can't predict what's going to happen in texas. i think donald trump will gather a large number of delegates. it's not a winner take all state here. i think he will do very well in the other southern states but remember, ted cruz, whom i like, by the way, ted cruz has to do well in these states because as we move forward, it's going to be more difficult to ted cruz in the northern states. i think the map looks only better for donald trump as you move out of these southern states. but let's face it, the fact that donald trump is resonating with a majority of evangelicals not only in the southern states but nationally is a true miracle.
>> well, thanks so much for being with us. you certainly believe in what you're saying. with me now is republican strategist david dibella and miami mayor philip levine, a clinton camp surrogate who was just in south carolina today with hillary clinton. gentlemen, so hillary wins south carolina. any surprise there? >> no surprise. the democrats have been saying for months that this is her firewall and even if bernie sanders would have gotten 100% of the vote, she still comes away with more super delegates because they have a rigged system to keep the establishment in charge of who the democrats nominate. >> i want to talk about that rigged system in a minute. let me just give phil, who was with hillary, i will ask you the same thing that i asked the pastor about donald trump. how did they react to her, what were the crowds like? >> i got to tell you something. in south carolina, i was there for the last few days, they were
so enthusiastic, the people of south carolina were incredible. so many people came out. they love secretary clinton and you saw it in what happened tonight. this is something that's actually historic at this point. we expect that it's going to continue this way, judge. >> you know what's interesting is she seems to have changed her message. it's all about you and me and us, kind of taking from bernie sanders i want to address what david just mentioned. because i think it's very important. that is the super delegates. the democratic party has super delegates which means there are a bunch of people, the high-falutin' ones, the elected and the establishment people, who have already, although their state hasn't voted, are already in hillary's camp. what do you say to those in bernie sanders' campaign and his supporters that it's rigged for the clintons? >> well, i would say that's not the case. first of all, the system has worked beautifully for many, many years. of course, senator sanders,
their campaign, their people, have increased the dialogue, pushed the narrative out in a beautiful way and it put more people in the tent. remember something. people that are super delegates are folks that are elected by the people. these are not people that just decided to become super delegates. >> no, no, but phil, phil, let's be real clear on this. the super delegates, many of them are already committed to her in states where they haven't even had primaries. explain how that works. >> well, it all started when mcgovern and jimmy carter won without the support of the establishment. there was a great quote by the former democratic party boss that says jimmy carter can't be president, i don't know him. it was actually the election before that he got beat by mcgovern supporter that kept him from even being a delegate to the convention. so the democrats came up with the super delegates which allowed their elected officials and their big donors and party
operatives to be able to cast votes. let me say one other thing. the mayor's right. this is an historic election. never before has a nominee been indicted and very well hillary clinton may be the democratic nominee and very well may be indicted. >> here we go again with the republican attack machine. >> funny you would say that. i found it ironic in her speech, she said something like no american is too big to be jailed. she says that in her acceptance -- >> clearly the numbers are the numbers. the numbers are the numbers. secretary clinton has been in service for about 40 years in public service. we know there are all these lies out there. the fact of the matter is, people trust that secretary clinton will get the job done, that she will build bridges for the american people. listen, the republican party as we know right now, they are in the five stages of grief. i know they are in shock right now because donald trump will be their candidate. but it is what it is. >> i want to go to donald trump and rubio. now, you know, donald trump is donald trump. he's kind of a showman, and i
want to be clear, he's a friend of mine, but i never expected rubio to get in that mode and you know, is it entertaining for republicans, or are they turned off by it? >> well, i think most people saw that debate as the worst version of a jerry springer show, but the reality is look, it doesn't change the dynamics of this race. the dynamics of this race are the same. for someone to beat donald trump they have to start getting victories and have to start collecting more delegates -- >> okay, but rubio hasn't won a thing and is not projected to win florida, his own state. so why is the establishment so dug in against donald trump? >> well, judge, your term is establishment. i don't know what that means. this week, two congressmen came out for donald trump. >> two? the guy has won three of four primaries. >> right. i hear you. we have had donors call us and
say how do they reach out to the trump campaign. scott brown came out a couple weeks ago. >> phil, i'm going to give you the last word. is there any question in your mind as to who will be the republican candidate? >> we think it's going to be donald trump. those debates are funny. kind of like watching joan rivers, combination of don rickles and joan rivers with rodney dangerfield. it's entertaining and of course, the democratic debates are more like "60 minutes "reque" focusi issues. >> all right. i'll let you have the last word on that. thank you both so much. with me now is republican communications expert lee carter. what's your take on that last discussion? >> well, i think actually people are getting energized by rubio. i have done a lot of testing over the week and i thought maybe his performance would test better than it did. i'm not sure it will change minds but people said he finally
seems relaxed and comfortable in his own skin. he's trying out -- we are seeing a different side of rubio. people are responding to it. what i have also been hearing is they see him as acting more like a leader and cruz is like, i don't even know where he is anymore. >> cruz seems to be kind of missing in action right now. all the cameras are on the two of them. let me ask you, rubio is still projected not to win his on state of florida, where he is a united states senator. i mean, that's an embarrassment. that's not until the 15th. let's talk about super tuesday. this tuesday. what do you see happening as between trump and rubio? >> i think trump's going to win it. he's going to win big, all of them. >> really. >> i think maybe there's two or three he might not win, texas, probably not, but here's the thing that's so interesting about it. it's proportional on super tuesday. what that means is unless you get more than 50% of the votes, you don't take all the delegates. it gets proportionally allocated. so trump could win big and cruz could win big in texas and say
that's a big victory. if he doesn't get more than 50% of the vote they split it three ways. it could be a big, big problem. >> of course, texas has the biggest prize with 155 delegates for the republicans. >> that's right. >> and as it relates to rubio, cruz, you know, if it's just texas, then i suspect you don't see many more for him. >> i don't see many more at all for him, especially because that's the only state where he seems to be performing well. the other thing that's really important to be watching right now is momentum. if you look at the polls, look at the trend lines right now, cruz is dropping. trump is gaining. rubio is really gaining. so it's really just momentum is important going into super tuesday although if somebody doesn't win big on super tuesday it will be really really hard to gain momentum going forward. >> is it possible for donald trump to lock it up on super tuesday? >> i don't think it is possible for him to lock it up on super tuesday. i think the perception will be that he locks it up. but unless he goes in with a lot more delegates, he's got to have a significant number more
delegates because after that, then it's winner takes all. the fear is if he doesn't go in with more than 50% of delegates after super tuesday a lot of things can change that we could have some people drop out. imagine if cruz dropped out. i can't imagine that happen but suddenly you would have a race. >> the interesting part of rubio is that they tried to get jeb bush's support and he wouldn't. he tried to get chris christie to support him, and chris christie wouldn't. you know, there is all of these attempts to get people to support rubio and it's not happening. so if things go as planned, florida goes to trump, assuming that trump doesn't lock it up on super tuesday, after the 15th of march in florida, then is there still a possibility of a brokered convention? >> i don't think so. i don't think there's really any way trump's not the nominee. i can see a few paths right now but i cannot imagine a world that happens right now that doesn't go for trump because it doesn't seem like there's any major gaffe that he can make, doesn't seem like there's anything that -- >> he can't say anything else. >> no. he can't say anything else.
>> let me ask you a question. if you have got bernie sanders on the left and his supporters are rabid, and he doesn't win the nomination, especially with super delegates which makes it rigged in my mind, will some of those discontents and malcontents from the democratic party reach over to the outsider on the republican side? >> i think they will. this is the thing i have found so, so fascinating about the whole race so far. when you are talking about this is so emotionally charged, people are tired of politics as usual, tired of being promised the moon and not seeing things. they want something that's very different. i have talked to many voters out there who are saying i'm considering between trump and sanders. i'm considering crossing party lines. if it's hillary i'm not going to vote for her. >> there's another piece to it. i think the unions, the blue collar unions are coming out for trump. >> it's really, that's
fascinating to me. it is absolutely 100% correct. we are seeing the blue collar coming out in favor of trump in a really big way. he's got a very very interesting smart message. if you look at him, he's got five policies. one of his big policies is trade. trade is so important to unions because trade means jobs that are coming back to america. that is huge. people want to see manufacturing come back. in states like ohio, in places that are struggling all across the country, trade matters a lot. people trust trump and i think he's going to have a big time with unions. we haven't seen a republican like that in a long time. >> in a really long time. part of the problem is in '86 when president reagan said we are going to give amnesty and then everything will be on lockdown and it never happened, i think they now believe donald trump. always great having you on the show. thank you. hillary clinton takes south carolina. but can she take donald trump if they face each other in november? i talk with a democratic strategist about what many say
could be an epic one-on-one showdown for the white house. plus can the donald win with women? it's one of the questions i asked his son when he joined me this week. my interview with donald trump jr. is still ahead. first, tonight's poll question. who will win big on super tuesday? facebook or tweet me. ♪ you're not gonna watch it! ♪
xfinity lets you download your shows from anywhere. i used to like that song. breaking tonight, hillary clinton takes south carolina. but can she win against donald trump if they face each other in november? let's ask my next guest, democratic strategist mary ann marsh. all right, you are really, really smart. hillary clinton wins south carolina. no shock there, right? >> right. >> okay. is there anything about the demographics of it that you think is worth noting right now before we move on? >> well, no question. african-american voters came out in even higher percentage than they did in 2008 for barack obama. that is going to be instrumental to hillary clinton not only to win the contest coming up this tuesday, super tuesday, and the end of march, but for the general election. that is going to be the base of her support. she has to expand upon that and african-americans will have to
turn out in numbers as big or bigger than they did for barack obama for her to beat donald trump. >> and of course, she's embraced barack obama. she's embraced the message of bernie sanders. there's a different person on the campaign trail. am i right? >> well, i think you saw tonight hillary clinton obviously clinton and trump, no matter what anyone else says, they are the nominees. we know that tonight. the math is against everybody else. so you saw her tonight turn to the general election, making an appeal to the voters that have supported bernie sanders. she wants the younger voters. she wants the more progressive voters who haven't supported her thus far. she is starting to make that appeal and she is going to make appeal to women as well. she needs to pick up more support of women. just like trump has sort of turned the tables upside down including your last guest where we talked previously about the fact that many union members, blue collar workers will support donald trump, businessmen will support donald trump, secular and evangelical voters support donald trump, hillary clinton has a chance to get a lot of independent women and i think
she can get moderate republican women as well. so the conventional lines of democrat versus republican i think are going to change a lot and defy expectations as the whole race has so far. >> the whole race obviously with donald trump being the outsider who in spite of how hard the establishment, the republicans, are digging their heels in, he just keeps going beyond expectations. but what about marco rubio? he hasn't won a thing and is not projected to win much. how do you see him impacting donald trump and chris christie coming in and you know, i think getting into rubio's head. >> well, look, marco rubio's not going to win any states, period. he's not going to be the nominee. when he tried to do something in the last debate it was too little, too late. everything he said today in the last 24 hours, he does not have the standing with voters to make those claims stick, true or not. so marco rubio will not be the nominee. ted cruz will not be the
nominee. this race is over on the republican side and over on the democratic side. we are moving to the general election. the only question now is how long are rubio and cruz going to make mischief and on the republican party, everyone's talking about the convention and all that. i will say as a democrat, look, great, go ahead, have at it, have your fight. i think that's wonderful. but if the republican party tries to deny donald trump, the nomination in any form, it would be so easy for him to leave the party, take on a third party bid and the republican nominee who would come out of there would come in third. period. >> knowing donald, donald wants to win. he doesn't want to mess it up for someone else. i don't know that they will go to a brokered convention. you have been right so far. what's your prediction on that? >> if they're smart, they won't. as a democrat i should be rooting for it but that's not what the country's looking for. everybody wants this fight to go to november. it's going to be trump and clinton. i think it's going to be the most epic campaign i have seen
in my lifetime. i think it's going to be incredibly close. >> who wins? who wins? looking ahead with the crystal ball, who wins? >> i think it's just going to be so close. right now. and it looks like 2000. on election night i was on fox and said it would be the closest election ever. i think we might be looking at another one. >> it will be interesting. always good to have your input. thanks. donald trump really trounced marco rubio in rubio's home state. next, will weatherford joins me from florida as we talk super tuesday and blood feud between the donald and rubio. then, how heavy will the hispanic vote be on tuesday? we break it down straight ahead.
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judge jeanine. and the best picture going to "spotlight." a protester at a donald trump rally held up a sign that said make america hate again. here's what followed. [ crowd chanting ] >> the crowd booed him, bringing trump's attention to the protester before secret service could escort the protester out, a man in the crowd ripped up the protester's sign. the crowd cheered and started chanting usa, usa, usa.
the protester was escorted out peacefully. my next guest was a dedicated jeb bush supporter and does not believe donald trump should be the gop presidential candidate. but with marco rubio and ted cruz continuing to get trounced, isn't it time to support the front-runner? former republican speaker for the florida house of representatives will weatherford joins me now. good evening, will. all right. what's the answer to my question? isn't it time to get behind the leader? >> absolutely not. this is a time to double down for a real conservative. i'm happy to tell you that i was a strong jeb bush supporter and proud to be, but i'm even just as proud to be a supporter of marco rubio who i believe will be the nominee for next president of the united states. donald trump is not a conservative. he does not represent our values. he's trying to hijack our party. we won't let him get away with it. >> let me ask you something. everybody keeps saying donald trump is not a true
conservative. first of all, you don't win for presidency saying my one credential is i'm a conservative. that's not really the issue now. evangelicals care about terrorism and jobs. the democrats care about jobs. it's not about this political philosophy anymore. is it? >> well, we do care about jobs but let me give you one example. in the debate the other night i was sitting next to my 8-year-old daughter. we watched together. while donald trump stumbled over himself trying to explain how he would repeal, then replace obamacare, my 8-year-old looked at me and said daddy, i don't think mr. trump knows what he's talking about. i said you're absolutely right. he doesn't know what he's talking about. that's what's scary. people are looking for a leader with an optimistic message. >> why is he leading, will? >> he's leading because he's a professional salesman. he's an entertainer and candidly he's trying to pull a con job on the republican party. he's not going to be successful. >> he's my friend.
he's not an entertainer. he's not a con job. he's one of the most successful businessmen in the country. let me ask you this. tell me how marco rubio has distinguished himself in the senate to make him worthy of being the president of the united states other than not showing up? >> well, he's done a lot, okay. >> what? >> first of all, he was standing tall when we were trying to reform the va. he stood right next to congressman jeff miller and helped reform the veterans administration in a big way. he also has been the leading voice when it comes to national security issues in the united states senate, making sure we are keeping americans safe. i mean, this is a guy who also, i served with when he was speaker of the house in florida, who wrote a book called 100 ideas on how to make the state of florida a better place. he's a leader. >> look at this. >> he's an optimistic leader. >> trump is 44% in florida. the people in florida don't even like him. >> that's the magic number, 44. but by the time we get to florida, ted cruz is not going
to be in this race. he won't have a good night tuesday night. john kasich won't have a good night tuesday night. it's a two man race after tuesday. >> what do you predict, what is rubio going to win on tuesday? name one. he hasn't won one yet. >> look, it's a fair point. there's no question on tuesday donald trump's going to win the most states and have the most delegates. >> got to go. thank you. he says his dad is a job creator while the others have never hired anyone. my interview with donald trump jr. is next. we needed 30 new hires for our call center.
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is trump unstoppable? i sat down with donald trump jr. just hours after the last gop debate and before the christie endorsement to ask just that. here's what he had to say about his dad. >> thanks for being with us. you have had a rough night. >> little bit of a rough night. it's good. one hour of sleep, always fun to go do tv. >> the good news is your father has all these surrogates out there. you kids are so smart, so supportive, in it for him totally. it's a family affair. >> it is. we just believe in the message. we have seen what he's done for businesses for 40 years. people like to take a track record and turn it into a negative but he's done this time and time again. he has real experience. he has actually hired people. i love when people talk about creating jobs, people hired zero people throughout their lives. they are academics talking about it in theory, not in practice. >> let's talk about the debate. the debate was different and certainly was entertaining. but it was different in the sense cruz and rubio weren't going after each other, they were both piling on donald trump. how do you think your dad handled it?
>> i think he did great. he's always going to do great. he's had to do it in the real world. when you are drowning, that's the most dangerous guy there. both guys are drowning, they see the numbers, they see what happened so far. wasn't supposed to ever do anything. my father was never supposed to be near this. he was supposed to be out by now. all of a sudden they are losing. you got to start throwing spears. he gets it. >> the amazing part is you have two latinos and your father is beating them in the latino vote. why do you think that is? >> because people are sick of the same old. they are sick of the promises, the nonsense. my father when he's talking to voters, he's not talking about, he has nothing against latinos. he hires a lot of them. we have thousands of them working with us. what he is, he wants to make it fair for them. those people are affected more by illegal immigration probably than anyone else. i'm not affected by it very much. those guys are. he's catering to that, telling them what they need and what's going to be a big difference. same with blue collar workers. you have someone talking with them, talking to them, not at them. >> the unions have historically gone with the democrats.
i believe that there's going to be a different paradigm here. >> i think 100%. who do you think those guys are for? they will be for trump. they are not voting for hillary. the democrats promised all these things and never did anything for them. my father is all about the hard working american. he is finally giving them a voice, not saying let's run some sort of data base search and see when they want to hear, then we will do whatever our special interests tell us to do. >> what do you say to those people in the debate where rubio says well, you were hiring illegals yourself and you got fined $1 million. your father shook his head and said no, i don't know what it was. >> 35 years ago, something happened but that's the thing. you actually criticize someone who has a track record. over 1,000 deals, a couple things go wrong, that's normal practice. there's not a single guy who has ever been successful who hasn't had issues along the way. these guys have no track record. you can't talk about -- rubio can't say credit card bills and he's going to be in charge of the country. it's ridiculous. >> let's talk about, okay, the
latinos and he's beating rubio in florida big time but not beating cruz in texas, although i understand that -- >> i think it will be really close. texas is always a different state. texas loves anything that's texas despite whatever shortcomings. but i think he will do great. when you look at the rest of super tuesday, i don't think it's even close. remember, he won in south carolina, where he wasn't supposed to. he's winning with evangelicals, winning with hispanics. he likes to joke he's winning with tall people, short people, skinny people, fat people. >> let's talk about women. will he win with women? >> he will. when you talk about a real track record with women, they like to say he's mysogenist. that's nonsense. that interview from howard stern, that's news as opposed to having fun with a friend and they try to paint him in a ngt way. in 1982, 35 years ago, long before there was ever any type of talk about women doing this and women doing that, like we have today, he had a woman in charge of building trump tower. in new york city. in charge of construction. in the early '80s.
it's unheard of. know what he's about? he's about merit. if you are the right person for the job. >> tell me why there is so much establishment resistance. the "washington post" saying we got to stop trump, we have to make sure, i have never seen anything like this. >> i saw it yesterday. the "washington post," mexico and china all want to stop trump. guess what? the two countries ripping us off the most really want to stop trump because the game is over if he gets in there. same thing with the establishment. the establishment doesn't want trump because he's going to take their crony capitalism and eliminate it. you talked about the waste, fraud and abuse. you could shrink government so much, you could save trillions. we could then put it back into how about things that matter, education, taking care of our vets, fixing up the military. efficiency. that's what he's done with every company. >> some people were disappointed, your father wants to negotiate palestine whach. what do you say? >> he has had more awards from israel, my sister is orthodox
jew. you can't start a negotiation when two sides have been fighting for decades. you can't start a negotiating by throwing sand in someone's face and say we're going to the table on equal terms. it doesn't work that way. the only way you will ever get anything done, by the way, it's incredibly difficult as they acknowledge, he's the only one that can get it done because he understands how to actually negotiate. he's done it once or twice. these guys have never done it. >> donald trump jr., thanks for being with us. >> it's a pleasure. thank you so much. with me now, former spokesperson for president george w. bush, republican strategist and fox news contributor, mercedes flagg. i want to talk to you about the latino vote. we know donald trump won in nevada at the caucuses, more than rubio and cruz combined. i know people say that was a very small sample but he still beat them. now, let's look at super tuesday. what states have a majority or large number, not a majority, of
latinos and how will donald trump do? >> well, the main state to look at for super tuesday is texas. you are talking that when president george w. bush ran for president in 2004, he got 49% of hispanic vote in texas. actually, ted cruz got 35% when he ran for senate. so there is a window, an area there where donald trump could pick up these hispanic voters, many of them conservative, many of them who believe that the economy is incredibly important issue, many of them that believe that creating jobs is an important issue, which is a theme that i think sells well with hispanics and works well with donald trump. now, with that being said, the one issue that obviously, what i call you got to walk through that door with hispanics, is the immigration issue. that is where you have nationally the fact that eight in ten hispanics view donald trump unfavorably. >> let me ask you a question,
mercedes. when you talk about florida, he's winning florida 44% again, in front of rubio and cruz. there's a big latino vote in florida. >> there is. there is. and there's also a large percentage of the republicans there that are hispanic. it's a very mix of puerto rican, lot of cuban americans, many of them that lean republican, that vote in the gop primary in florida. but here's the deal. in south florida alone you have had several of these gop republican congressmen who were backing jeb bush, now they have moved to the marco rubio camp so rubio does have the advantage of the hometown advantage in south florida in particular, and so donald trump will need to try to see if he can bring any of those hispanics into his camp. >> let's talk about the number of hispanics who came out for
hillary clinton in south carolina or nevada, really doesn't matter, as opposed to the number that came out for the republicans. is there a larger -- well, first of all, i would assume there are more latinos are democrats than republicans. >> absolutely. definitely nationally when you are looking at the numbers, the democrats are at a clear advantage with the hispanic community. we see clear advantage with the hispanic community. we've seen it for example, when you look at 2012, romney really suffered. he only got 27% of the latino vote. and part of it is understanding, judge, before we used to talk about comprehensive immigration reform. we were softer, that was part of george bush's era. now, we say we have to secure the borders, which by the way the majority of the latinos agree with that position. but on the pathway to citizenship, what do we do with the undocumented immigrants, the illegal immigrants that are
here. that becomes a big sticking point with the community and something that the republican candidates will have to figure out a good enough answer to get them on board. >> mercedes, thank you growing up, we were german. we danced in a german dance group. i wore lederhosen. when i first got on ancestry i was really surprised that i wasn't finding all of these germans in my tree. i decided to have my dna tested through ancestry dna. the big surprise was we're not german at all. 52% of my dna comes from scotland and ireland. so, i traded in my lederhosen for a kilt. ancestry has many paths to discovering your story. get started for free at ancestry.com.
now for the results of tonight's poll, who will win big on super tuesday? tim says donald, because the one sleeping giant is out there, get on the trump train, calvin says ted cruz because he is the only candidate proven fighting for the nation. ryan says my vote is for carson, he is humble, and fights for the nation. and kathy says donald trump because the hard-working people are fed up with the rest of washington, most of you want donald. make sure you log on and send me your thoughts on tonight's show. and don't forget, have you bought my book yet? if you're looking for a great read, pick up my book, he killed them all. remember to friend me on facebook, follow me on twitter
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