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michigan, join us. again, thanks for us. please remember, the spin stops here because we're definitely looking out for you. breaking tonight. republican front-runner donald trump gets closer to the gop nomination winning 7 of 11 contests last night. but now he's in for perhaps the toughest stretch of the campaign to date, including a new challenge from a former presidential candidate. welcome to "the kelly file," everyone, i'm megyn kelly reporting live tonight from detroit, michigan. where 24 hours from now, four republican presidential candidates will face off, in a kobe bryant moderated by bret baier, chris wallace and yours truly. earlier today dr. ben carson announced he will not participate in this debate, saying he does not see a political path forward for him in this race. the debate tomorrow comes at a
crucial time. over the next 13 days, more delegates will be up for grabs than in all of the previous primaries combined. it all begins saturday with four contests, all of which are basically closed, meaning you have to be registered with the party to vote in the contest. so far ted cruz has done well in these types of elections, closed primaries. another so delegates will be up for grabs march 8, including michigan's 59 gop delegates, hence our presence here for the big debate. a few smaller contest also happen after michigan. but the main event is march 15, it's been dubbed super tuesday ii, when 367 delegates will be at stake. and unlike last night, most of these contests will be winner take all. with trump leading the delegate count, the establishment is looking to halt the trump train. 2012 republican presidential nominee mitt romney expected to hit donald trump hard in a
speech tomorrow. but reports today indicating the influential koch brothers do not have any intention to stop trump during the primary season. we have a big show for you tonight, complete with two of the remaining four of the presidential contenders. marco rubio is here to discuss his campaign's way forward, and we'll be joined by ted cruz, fresh off of his big win in his home state of texas, among a couple of others. we'll discuss the state of the race with our panel. but we begin tonight with carl cameron, reporting from detroit. hey, carl. >> hi, megyn. it's going to be a wild ride to the 15th. and donald trump has now won 10 of the 15 primaries and caucuses to date. and he has the momentum that a front-runner loves to have at this point and the past three cycles, the eventual nominees were in as good a position as donald trump's, if not a little
worse. and now tomorrow, donald trump will get an earful before the debate from none other than mitt romney, the 2012 nominee plans to give a speech in utah, talking about the race, but particularly about mr. trump. and it won't be all that nice. ironic in that when he was the nominee, mitt romney welcomed donald trump's endorsement and spoke glowingly about him. that won't be the case tomorrow. and mr. trump today has been on twitter, blasting mitt romney saying that it's -- that he was a loser and a choker, et cetera, et cetera. that also leaves open, however, the cruz and rubio battle. ted cruz got the boost that he needed in texas, and for marco rubio, the heat is really on him, because in the next two weeks, a little less now, comes those two big state where is it's winner take all, ohio and florida. john kasich and marco rubio basically face do or dies then, megyn. >> carl, great to see you. joining us now with more, chris
stirewalt, along with dana perino, and charlie hurst. great to see you all. so mitt romney, stirewalt, comes out and apparently is going to take direct aim at donald trump tomorrow. why? i mean, what do you think -- what comes of this? >> well, what comes of it we'll see. but the romnesian assault is rotted in the twin concern within the republican party. one, they believe the polls that say donald trump is a general election loser to hillary clinton. donald trump says he will become a better candidate and do better in the general election. most republicans believe donald trump will lose in the general election. then on the other hand, there are the conservatives concerned if donald trump brings his brand of populism on health care and
other issues, that the conservative movement will be derailed. so now they have two weeks, as you laid out, expertly counselor, they have two weeks until the 15th of march to decide whether they can stop donald trump or not. >> charlie, with all due respect to mitt romney, who is beloved by i would say most republicans, right? let's put this incident to the side. he lost, but he's beloved by most republicans. you know, he wasn't able to make the case with the gop voters with the electorate back in 2012. what should lead us to believe he can make it this time around? >> i don't know. but not only did he lose, he also, however appalling he finds donald trump, he is the reason we have donald trump running in 2016. i think a real problem -- the big reason that mitt romney lost, of course, was that whole thing about the 47% that
republicans will never win over, because they're looking for handouts and stuff like that. whether you believe that or not, it's a bad thing to be caught saying. of course, it was on a hot mike or a secret tape that got spilled everywhere. it went a long way toward s dooming him. whatever you say about donald trump, he does not believe that there's 47% that he can't get. he's trying -- >> those are the very voters he's attracting. he's reached out to them in a way that's been remarkable in this election. >> he is desperate to go far, far beyond 53% that mitt romney thought was the full population that he could campaign to. and i think that whatever you think of donald trump, whatever people think of donald trump, that is a very, very important, positive step. i think republicans would
benefit a lot from learning a little bit from him on that score. >> on the other hand, dana, that's not to dismiss the genuine consternation in the republican party of nearly half of the republican party about donald trump emerging as the likely nominee. more and more republicans are coming out saying they would never vote for donald trump under any circumstances. and you basically have -- this is one example, eric erickson who says it may be necessary for men and women of principle to set the self-detonation button. so mitt romney may be speaking to that faction of the party. >> donald trump is facing a need to unite three ways. so he's got the new voters that he's brought along and maybe disaffected voters. people like eric erickson, he
would not be considered a squish or a rino, he is a conservative. and then you have establishment people. so he's fighting on three fronts. i thought last night when he tried to make the pivot in his press conference, he did okay that. to charlie's point, the 47% that was able to sink mitt romney, because the democrats are looking for any of those three words. the democrats, 47% against romney, the republicans, you didn't build that, which is what they tried to tag on to obama. so now he's trying to consolidate the republican party and you know the democrats are going to walk in lock step. so they're looking for that 47%, what is it going to be? they might already even have it. and looking at any of the nominees that the republicans would put forward.
i think donald trump -- mitt romney tomorrow is going to harken back to the speech he gave when he decided not to run six months ago. >> chris, we're going to have rubio and cruz on tonight. is it all -- is it real in your view? does either of those guys actually have any path? >> look, they have a path in this sense, that the resistance to trump within the republican party is significant. this is not the usual coughing and sputtering of failed opponents. there is polls have shown nearly 50% of the party, a nearly even divide within the republican party over donald trump and what he means for the future. is there a possibility that you could have a splinter group or a convention floor fight? you know me, i sit in this chair and says not here, because it's opulent and looks like we're the pharaohs. no, never, that's stupid, i'm not smelling what you're
smoking, none of that will ever happen. but because of trump and because of the broad, consistent, steady failure of the republican party to deal with him, this is a possibility. >> i want to ask you quickly, charlie, is that real? i know you think it's sewn up for trump. >> i don't know if it entirely is, because the establishment will go as far as they can to stop him. but ted cruz, who has the best shot right now at challenging him, has real problems when he's getting beaten by donald trump among evangelical voters in states like georgia and south carolina and alabama. >> i'm going to ask him about that. i will pick it up with ted cruz on that point momentarily. great to see you all. >> thank you. joining me now for more on this, florida senator marco rubio. watch. senator, great to see you tonight. thank you for being with us. having had a day to digest it, how do you see the results last
night? >> first, we never said super tuesday was going to be the best night of our campaign. ted cruz's campaign was built on closing it out on super tuesday. now we move on to the part of the calendar we feel much better about. yesterday, places we worked hard in, we were outspent in most of them. our campaign is built out over a broader calendar. we're excited about the fact we got over 100 delegates. we feel hike we'll do well and excited about florida on the 15th of march where we feel we can take the next step forward in this campaign. >> do you agree now it is not possible for you to secure this nomination short of a brokered or contested convention? >> you can ask that of virtually everyone in this field. from my end, we continue to work towards becoming the person that has 1237 delegates. that's the outcome we want.
>> i know, but it's mathematically impossible for you to do it without a brokered convention, is it not? >> i think you can make that argument for virtually everyone in this race at this point. the front-runner is donald trump, and he doesn't have as many delegates as there are against him. 65% of the voters yesterday rejected donald trump. he has a real problem moving forward. because usually front runners say, let's rally around the front-runner around the good of the party. the opposite is happening. you have people rallying against the front-runner, because they realize how much damage donald trump will do to the conservative movement. this is the most unusual political cycle in modern american history. you've been in the front row and seen it play out over the last year. i think this is a very different election and we will have to be more patient to see where it leads us. i can tell you where it can't lead us, and that is to the nomination of donald trump. this is a person never in his
career has ever lived out any of the things he claims he wants to do for the american people and he'll get destroyed in november by hillary clinton. we can't lose this election to hillary clinton. >> what do you make of mitt romney scheduling these remarks for tomorrow? have you had any contact with him? >> no. obviously just pleasantries. i don't know what he's going to talk tomorrow other than the report you have on the air tomorrow. i think it's part of a broader narrative. that is usually at this stage in the campaign, when you have a front-runner winning states like donald trump. you have everybody saying for the good of the party, everybody get out and let's rally around this person to work on the general election. the opposite is happening. everyone is trying to rally to stop someone from becoming the nominee. they know it's not a conservative. he's never voted in a republican primary before. he has dangerous views on foreign policy and the economy. >> but you know the story with
that. he manages to win with a plurality and because the rest of the field is so divided. until you guys consolidate on the opposite side, it is trump's for the taking. >> again, i think there's real doubt whether donald trump can ever get to 1237 delegates. i just don't think he can get to that point if things continue. look, march 15 will be the beginning of a change here. you'll have florida and ohio awarding all their delegates. if i win florida on march 15, we'll be having a very different interview and conversation about the whole race. it's 99 delegates that go to the winner. i feel very good about our chances there. but there's a lot of work ahead. i'm an underdog, no doubt about that. i don't claim anything other than that. but it's a role i relish and have been in my whole life and this campaign is that important. what's at stake here is what
kind of country my kids are going to inherit. i don't want to them to inherit a country where donald trump is the president of the united states with his views on foreign policy and reckless views on the economy and his lack of temperament. >> i have to ask you about ben carson today. it appears he's done with his presidential race, although he hasn't officially said that. your thoughts? >> ben carson is -- i don't know him very well, but in my interaction with him, he's one of the finest people i've ever interacted with. we'll miss him at these debates. he was always a sense of calm. i know he'll stay involved. he'll speak at c-pac this week. he's a fantastic gentleman. i wish him the best. we'll see how this plays out. >> we are here live now in detroit. i can tell you the stage down below me, they just took off the
fifth lectern. there are only four and one has your name on it. looking forward to seeing you here tomorrow. >> i look forward to being there and ask everyone to go to my website marcorubio.com. >> all the best to you. >> thank you. there is big news breaking right now on hillary clinton's e-mail scandal. as the department of justice offered immunity to a man who could be a key witness, a man who pleaded the fifth prior in this case. senator ted cruz is here next on that. plus, the road ahead for his campaign. plus, donald trump and hillary clinton are starting now to focus their fire on each other, and former president obama campaign manager will tell us where this is likely to lead. and then an iraq war veteran will join us from the new ad that donald trump was challenging on twitter today in a kelly file exclusive. still ahead. >> since the iran nuclear deal,
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breaking tonight. the justice department may be seriously stepping up its investigation into hillary clinton's use of a private e-mail server as secretary of state. the doj granting immunity to a former clinton state department staffer who set up clinton's server in her home. this is video from last year of brian pagliano appearing to live before the commit i investigating benghazi. in that hearing, which touched on the e-mail issue, he pleaded the fifth. but this development means he can now fully cooperate with investigators without fear of incriminating himself. joining me now with reaction, texas republican senator ted cruz. senator, great to see you. you are a well-trained lawyer, what do you make of this? >> this is an ominous development for the clinton campaign and the democrats as a whole. this suggests the investigation is moving to a whole other level and granting immunity means
they'll question this individual and get all the facts of what he did and in particular, what secretary clinton told him, what her close associates told him, what they knew and instructed and that suggests that the legal jeopardy is just getting greater and greater. and that, megyn, underscores the need for republicans to nominate a strong candidate to beat hillary in november, because i think she's going to be a badly wounded candidate. and if we nominate a strong republican, we'll win this general election. >> you know, it's fascinating, because the republicans have been saying all along, is she going to make it to november? there is a greater chance than zero hillary clinton will be indicted and then what happens to this race? >> then you have a mess. then you have the democrats in chaos and who knows? there's speculation they try to parachute in a joe biden or john kerry. i don't consider myself an expert on the internal politics
of the democratic party, but regardless of who they run, whether they run hillary or bernie or some other socialist, we need to nominate a strong conservative, because that's the only way to win, the only way to beat hillary. one of the reasons why i listened to your interview with marco. one of the things i very much agree with marco, nominating donald trump would be an absolute disaster. 70% of republicans recognize donald trump is the wrong candidate to go head to head with hillary because he loses to hillary. a poll yesterday from cnn had him losing by eight points. that same poll had me beating hillary. that's why we're seeing so many republicans uniting behind our campaign, because our campaign is the only -- >> the working class and the middle class, across party
lines, that is his argument that he unifies them. >> that's not entirely true. if you look at the states. ours is the only campaign that's beaten donald trump over and over again. we've won four states now. resoundingly in iowa and texas, a big victory in oklahoma and big victory in alaska and we beat donald trump in minnesota, as well. so five states we've beaten donald trump. if you look at who is supporting our campaign, we are dominating among young people. we are winning conservatives. but we are also competes neck and neck with donald, with those reagan democrats, with those working class voters who are critical to winning. that's how you win the general election. it's one of the reasons why we're beating donald is that our campaign is the only one that can fight him and fight him effectively, with those blue car workers. you're not going to beat donald unless you can fight him on that turf and bring together the broader coalition of
conservatives and young people all across the board. and that's what we're doing. >> a lot of people who are looking at you and marco rubio and they like you both. any chance of a unity ticket between the two of you? >> listen, i think marco is very, very talented. he has a wonderful personal story. he's a great communicator. i do think a lot of people, particularly looking after last night, have come to the inevitable conclusion that there's only one campaign that has a credible path to beating donald trump. and that is our campaign. we've done it over and over and over again. and unless you can do that, it's part of the reason why, you know, we spent this past week welcoming supporters to our campaign, people who have been supporting candidates who have dropped out, people like jeb bush and chris christie, welcoming supporters of ben carson, welcoming supporters of marco rubio who marco is very, very talented. but he doesn't have a path to beating donald trump. and if we're going to beat
donald trump, we've got to unite. we've got to come together and unite, and our campaign has demonstrated we can do it. >> i've got to run, senator. >> just yesterday, we raised over a million dollars on tedcruz.com. >> we'll see you here tomorrow. your view is going to be fantastic, and we're looking forward to it. >> excellent. i look forward to it, as well. i want to show you this. you should see this place. can we show the audience this spectacular venue. it's amazing. and the columns and the walls and the ceilings. look at this, right? how lucky are we? we hope you'll join us tomorrow night at 9:00 p.m. eastern live right here from detroit. we'll be moderating with bret baier and chris wallace. we have some tough questions for the remaining four republican candidates. it's going to be an electric night. and then a live edition of "the
kelly file" at midnight with frank luntz. we are reaching out to former federal prosecutors on the breaking e-mail controversy. and we'll have some new details shortly. plus, even before all the votes were counted last night, mr. trump and mrs. clinton were turning their fire on each other. we'll take a look at that matchup with the man who got president obama elected twice. happy he's here. that's next. >> i'm going to go after one person, that's hillary clinton, on the assumption she's allowed to run, which is a big assumption. i don't know that she's going to be allowed to run. i think that's frankly going to
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breaking tonight. while senators cruz, rubio, governor kasich, and bernie sanders are all looking for new ways to win after yesterday's voting, donald trump and hillary clinton are increasingly looking at each other as the real threat. take a listen to what the two had to say last night. >> we know we have work to do. but that work, that work is not to make america great again. america never stopped being
great. we have to make whole. >> she wants to make america whole again. i'm trying to figure out what is that all about? make america great again is going to be much better than making america whole again. >> joining us now, katrina pierson, spokesperson for the trump campaign, and david plutt, former campaign manager of president obama's 2008 presidential campaign. so david, you're basically the man who helped get barack obama elected twice. let's just go through this quickly. do you think that hillary has it secured on the democratic side? >> i do. bernie sanders has run a strong race, but it's not very sexy, but this is about delegate acquisition, and she's built a substantial lead. so by march 16, probably trump and clinton will look like they are, if not the presumptive nominee, the actual nominees. so this is where this is headed.
>> on the republican side, we're hearing all this is going to be contested and no one can secure the majority of delegates. what say you to those claims by cruz and rubio? >> my sense is that trump is going to be the delegate leader. if you believe in the fairy tale that you can take the nomination away from someone in cleveland during the republican convention who has won the most delegates, maybe you have a source of hope. i think that's very hard to do in either party. i think clinton is going to reach a delegate majority over time here. i just to me that's the only scenario left. that's not a scenario where trump implodes and gets 10% of the vote. he's got a healthy floor. so i guess if only scenario is you deny him a majority and you steel the nomination away from him in cleveland. i think at the end of the day, that might be a bigger disaster than what people fear with trump as the nominee. >> right. because what are his supporters going to do if that happens, support rubio or cruz? let's say it's trump versus
hillary in a general election. you are somebody that ran against hillary and now you support hillary. how do you dee that matching up, trump v. hillary? >> you better not assume it's going to be an easy race. so i think there's a chance trump could lose in a landslide, which would be a disaster to the republican party. but he could make it close if not win. the one thing he's doing is bringing out a lot of voters, some new, some old. and he's appealing to some traditionally blue collar independents and democrats. so you better mount a campaign assuming he's going to overperform mccain and romney, and you have to define the race. that's the trick in any campaign, define yourself, define your opponent and define the race. trump makes that difficult. he's dominated the political landscape. he takes the oxygen out of the room every day. he hurls insults and assaults that no candidate prior to this
has ever done in the modern times. this is going to be tricky to run against him. i think he has a lot of vulnerability and that will be some republicans that don't support him. i think there's a lot of independent swing voters rebelled by what he says. but he has a chance to overperform. we can't predict what's going to happen with this guy, because he's defied every political prediction. >> what would be your worry -- if you look at the obama coalition that you guys built in getting barack obama elected, he had all these democrats, but he has huge numbers with women, hispanics, with african-americans, young people. and the wisdom was the republicans can peel off enough of those they can give hillary a chance. trump is going at it differently. can you beat that democratic coalition, whatever is left of it, when it's not obama running, with that sort of constituency by trump?
>> it's hard. the numbers suggest it's hard. but one of the challenges for hillary clinton, can she re-create that obama coalition or enough of it? can you get african-american turnout support amongst latinos and asians, and even before sanders' emergence is young voters. that will be the toughest thing to get the right vote share and the right turnout. so even sort of irrespective of trump, that's going to be a challenge. if you don't maximize the quote unquote obama coalition and trump is overperforming with sometraditional, more blue collar, white swing voters, it becomes close. i think trump provides some energy to get young people, to get african-americans and latinos out. but they will have to run a skillful campaign. in the movie "rocky" he fights right-handed, then he goes southpaw. trump, i have some sympathy for republicans like cruz and rubio. there's no play book for this.
so i think she would be considered the strong favorite to get 270 electoral votes. i think trump will be challenged in states like colorado and nevada. but i do think that there's -- clinton has some challenges irrespective of trump. the key one centers on energizing and getting a strong enough performance with younger voters. >> fascinating. david, great to speak with you. thanks for being here don't. >> thanks, megyn. all right. back with us now, trump campaign spokesperson katrina pierson. do you generally agree with that analysis? it seemed down the middle. >> it did seem down the middle. mr. trump is bringing out voters that no other republican in this race could ever do. he's bringing in states that other republicans cannot take in to play. and just for a second, i really want to address this idea where you have the establishment coming out and all of the
elected officialing coming out against mr. trump saying we should not have mr. trump in the nomination. i want to remind you and the viewers that these are the same people that lost two elections in a row. these are the same people whose idea of outroaeach in the minory community is printing out their policies in spanish and haven't stepped to the in a black neighborhood in decades and they say donald trump is the problem? that is false and incorrect. and number one out of all of this, megyn, we have seen new people come in, young people, minorities, hispanics. mr. trump won hispanics in nevada, tied with hispanics in texas. mr. trump will not only beat hillary clinton in the general, but it will be a landslide. >> right. but the hispanic numbers in nevada was minuscule, like 100 people. but nationally, mr. trump's numbenum
numbers with the hispanics are not good. i want to ask you about what he said when it comes to whether trump will enthuse not just his supporters, but hillary's. >> well, you know, i think that we see right now that there's a lot of disenfranchised democrats. we've seen reports of those democrats switching party affiliations to support mr. trump, because he is doing well with blue collar workers and reagan democrats. there is no enthusiasm behind hillary. the thing about hillary versus trump election, everybody knows who they are. people get excited about donald trump. he has a pro growth, pro america policy. hillary clinton is more of the same. she's been saying the same things that she's been saying for decades. it's old. they've done nothing. and mr. trump will bring a whole new sphere to the political landscape. >> katrina, great to see you. >> thanks, megyn. there's big news breaking right now on hillary clinton's
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breaking tonight. a veterans group releasing a new tv ad, and we have obtained it exclusively. it hits donald trump for allegedly not taking a stronger position against the controversial nuclear deal between the obama administration and iran. watch. >> since the iran nuclear deal, the iranians have gone on offense across the middle east. they el illegally detained our sailors, tested ballistic missiles and continue to fund terrorists that have killed americans. >> i heard a lot of people say we're going rip up the deal. very tough to do. >> donald even praised hillary
clinton. >> who would you like representing the united states in a deal with iran, with this regime? >> hillary's always surrounded herself with very good people. i think hillary would do a good job. >> america's veterans want clear and consistent judgment on iran. not someone who agrees with clinton, kerry, and obama. >> joining me now, the executive director of veterans against the deal. sergeant robert bartlett is an iraq war vet badly wounded by an iranian roadside bomb in iraq. and carl higby, former navy s.e.a.l. and supporter of donald trump. why did you think this was necessary is >> we need a clear stance of -- we need to see what trump wants to do. we need to see what his policies are and what he wants to do. if iran breaks this deal, is he going to tear it up? what is he going to do? the public needs to know and he
needs to separate himself from clinton and show who he really is. >> well, he has said what he's going to do. he says i'm not going to tear up the deal, and if you look at his interviews, he says by the time i get in office, we will have already given iran all their money and the carrot has been given. now comes the stick part where they have to comply. so why rip it up? >> so show what his policies are. is he going to put those sanctions back on iran or is he going to side with putin and say, hey, we don't mind that you're selling s-300s to iran, and we're going get along okay because i'm president now. he needs to be clear on what he's going to do and put that plan forward. if he's saying he's not going to rip up the deal, he's no-go on my vote. >> michael, why did you include the stuff about praising hillary clinton? obviously, he has donated to
her, but you heard him explain that before, he claims he was just trying to buy her because he was a politician. >> thanks for having me on. what this does, we're vetting candidates as commanders in chief. so the reason we contrasted trump and hillary is because there is no difference between them. we need to see daylight between trump's position on iran and hillary's. hillary has talked tough on if iran cheats we'll do something about it. trump has said it's a deal i wouldn't have knead but i'm not going to rip it up on day one. iran hasn't signed this deal. they're already in breach. and as a deal maker, trump should know that the iran deal should be torn up on day one, because iran is already violating it. >> carl, you ore a trump supporter. >> right. and i think donald trump has been clear. look, it was a bad deal, very bad deal. but you can't make deals with these nutjobs. trump was trying to do a great deal of business in new york, which was hillary's home state
of new york, so no wonder he's blowing smoke up her rear. you would be better served towards attacking hillary clinton, not him. if you want to bring something on, bring it on because it will only make us stronger. >> a lot of people try to justify trump's support for hillary at the time that way. >> you know, when the wind blows, it tells who you are. one minute you're with hillary, the next minute you're not because you're running for president. you need to figure out who you are as a person. integrity shines through. if you have integrity, people will see that. that's why carson did so well. that's why some of these new front-runners have done so well. you have to show who you are. you have to separate yourself from hillary, if you really are that person. people do change. but you've got to prove it. the proof is in the pudding. >> you know, michael, trump has done very well so far with veterans, with military families
out on the campaign trail. he seems to be garnering a lot of support. why do you think that is? >> he said the right things about helping veterans when it comes to the veterans administration and raising funds for veterans. but we're looking at a commander in chief and what he'll do with foreign policy. what he'll do with an isis strategy and with iran. now, you can give a president a hard time for saying isis is the jv team or giving the president a hard time for saying "mission accomplished." but he's the republican front-runner and we shouldn't have a commander in chief doing an interpretive dance of a money shot in front of the american public. we need to see a serious candidate in donald trump, especially with the security situations we're facing with isis, iran. and when he says he's going to work with putin and assad, that further alienates our sunni allies. it makes everybody look to the u.s. and wondering what we're
doing. this is the republican front-runner. and wonder what we're doing. this is the republican front-runner and he needs a different position than hillary clinton and right now we don't see it. >> all right, guys. good to see you all. we have more on the breaking news of the investigation of hillary clinton's e-mail scandal hearing reports the man that helped her set up the private server is granted immunity by incredible bladder protection from always discreet that lets you move like you mean it now comes with an incredible promise. the always discreet double your money back guarantee. always discreet is for bladder leaks and it's drier than poise. try it. we're so confident you'll love it, we'll give you double your money back if you don't. incredible bladder protection. double your money back guarantee. that's always discreet. (singing alougetting to know you. getting to know all about you...
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breaking tonight. we have been telling you about the new reporting of "the washington post" indicating the man that helped set uphill hill's private e-mail server is granted immunity by the department of justice. trace gallagher joins us with the latest. trace? >> reporter: his name is brian pegliano. he worked on the clinton campaign before setting uphill hill's private e-mail server inside her new york home. experts say the fact that he is cooperating is clearly that the fbi investigation into possible wrongdoing is progressing. this is key because it comes before investigators would likely interview hillary clinton and her senior aides about why they decided to use a private
server in the first place. and if they knew they were sending classified information in the e-mails. with his testimony, they could then compare notes but there's still no indication so far says "the washington post" that they're convening a grand jury and could subpoena documents and or testimony. the lawyer isn't commenting, nor is the fbi or justice department. the clinton campaign said, as we have said since last summer, secretary clinton has been cooperating with the department of justice's security inquiry including offering an august to meet with them to assist their efforts if needed. the came pain spaign says he is cooperating. the clinton campaign calls it a security technology.
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