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a equals anti-social. hey guys, i want you to meet my fiancée, denise. hey. good to meet you dennis. hello, welcome back. the "the five." >> for so long, most of the media has let donald trump hit from the ladies' tee until last night when this lady teed one up on him. >> your campaign website to this day argues that more visas for highly skilled workers would, quote, decimate american workers. however, at the cnbc debate you spoke enthusiastically in favor of these visas. which is it? >> i'm changing. we need highly skilled people in
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this country. if we can't do it, we'll get them in. >> so you are abandoning the position on your website -- >> i'm and it softening the position. we have to have talented people in this country. >> so he's changed. i like that. good for him. i applaud him for admitting this. and megyn as well for asking that important question. but it is weird. days ago he championed american workers replaced at disney. then talked about foreign tech workers. that has to be a record flip-flop. the definition of establishment is one who seeks power and does anything to hold on to it. meaning say anything to get elected and then abandon the promises. we just saw that from the man who condemns it in others. quote, they're taking our jobs is now we have to have talented peel in this country. i agree but i wonder how others feel. has anyone checked in on david duke? we can change our minds and at least he did it before the election. not after. the question is would he have told us if we didn't ask?
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last night we learned a little more about a potential president. we know very little at all. it is all in his head and it is subject to change based on what? does anyone know? does he really know? meanwhile, hillary tweeted this joke mocking the debate. that's maketure of her rubbing her temples at a benghazi hearing. yes, a presumptive nominee used a hearing about the death of four americans as a punch line about a debate. nothing from the debate comes even close to that classless act. she can't be president and there is no debating that. all right. more on the debate in a moment. lots of stuff. we want to bring in some lady named dana perino who is out at cpac day in washington. there is some news that broke today. >> sean hannity is behind us. ben carson is coming up,
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tomorrow marco rubio is set to speak and donald trump was scheduled to speak but he decided earlier today that he is not going to come to cpac to this big crowd of grassroots individuals. he is going to continue to campaign. i guess he feels that's a good decision for him. i talked to some folks at cpac and they said they would have liked to have him here. john kasich spoke earlier today and he got a standing ovation. so this is a polite crowd and i think that he probably would have done well here with this group of people. he decided not to come. >> do you think he didn't come because he knew you would be there and possibly with that cut-out of jasper? >> jasper is everywhere. flat jasper is like -- john kasich got a picture of flat jasper. who wouldn't one one except for you? >> i know. kimberly, why the decision to back out? >> i would always take an opportunity if i was running for the office of the presidency to reach voters. i don't know what his reasons
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are. perhaps it was a format issue. i know that he has spoken and well received at cpac in the past. so it is a place he's gone on another occasions and done quite well. so i don't know. dana, are you having a good time there? >> i am. i saw some great fans of "the five." we'll talk about the panel i did later. the video of "the five" was well received. everybody lost all of us on the show. even juan. just kidding, juan. of course they love you. it's been really great. and it is interesting to be here amongst people. i did some radio, i always ask, are you despairing what's happening to the republican party? of course, as a lifelong republican i'm concerned. but i believe the values of conservatism are rooted in principle that's are everlasting. they won't go away in the next few weeks before the next big voting on march 15.
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so this crowd is excited and i know there's really big issues in front of them including the economy. that's been one of the number one things talked about here at cpac throughout the day. >> eric -- >> dana, is there a seed change at cpac? it has been far right conservative people that show up there. and i know matt took over last year if i'm not mistaken. he seems to be grabbing a wider group of conservatives. far right, yes, but also maybe toward the middle. is that accurate? >> i think so, eric. i would describe it as more of expanding rather handle the limiting. so adding, not subtracting. there's a lot of young people here. in fact, ted cruz knows his audience very well. he was telling sean hannity, there were 15 people in the race and now there are four. a lot of people here probably initially supported a different candidate. and he said anybody here ever
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support rand paul? and there was a huge applause line for ted cruz supporting rand paul. ron paul did well here, rand paul would have done well here. in the straw poll at least. i would say there's an expansion. and very difficult to see how many young people are here. what's the number one thing people worry about in their lives as a millennial? what's the big political moment? and he had an interesting moment. it wasn't 9/11 and wasn't the financial crisis. he said it is when you get your first paycheck and you realize that half of what you have worked so hard for is taken away, plus student loans. i think there's an expansion here at cpac. >> i'm keeping your seat warm here. let me ask you. you can tell a lot about what people are talking about on the ground. what are they saying to you when they come up to you? >> that they love "the five," they love jasper.
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>> i have to say they're so excited to be here. again, the economy. millennials, i've mostly talked to young people here. and one of the things that concerns me is that you hear them say that they don't believe that the american dream is still available to them. they want to believe that america is exceptional. they're very concerned about their check future. they don't see a way to get ahead. you cover the fox business channel so well. so they're worried about that and looking to see how conservative policies could help meet their goals in a prosperous and growing economy. >> very true. >> hey, dane, a it's juan. i think that trump made a good move. this is about winning and i don't think he will get any specific state in his pocket as a result of speaking at cpac. i think he has to be in michigan. he has to move toward florida and try to lock it up.
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i think that's what that is about. >> so i saw john kasich earlier before he spoke. and apparently, he thinks that michigan is very good for him. he looked like he was very happy after his debate. if you're a candidate at this point, donald trump or anyone else, you would like to have multiple personalities so you could be in lots of places at once. yes, i think it is important to be in michigan where there will be a primary next week. but i also think this crowd, when you are looking at a need toonsolidate the republican party, to unify, i don't think i would have missed this opportunity. and i do think that donald trump would have been welcomed here. and i think he would have done very well. i understand if he were to change his mind, they would be glad to have him here on saturday. >> but let's talk about what happened. the debate. you know, i thought fox did an amazing -- eric, fox did an amazing job. it was a chaotic raucous event.
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it was wild. they held everyone's feet to the fire. donald trump was not on the last debate. they used those full screens so people saw them for trump and not for others. they were catching up from what they didn't have the opportunity for. >> and megyn did. >> and i think they did a fantastic job. bret's question at the end was stunning and jaw that dropping. if donald trump is the nominee, would you support him? and every one was waiting. all the gop pushing back, i can't support trump. never trump hash tags. and everyone of them said i'll support the gop nominee. >> honor the pledge. >> that was awesome. >> whoever it is. >> what trump said. i'll be the nominee. but the thing that struck me about this, two things. one is, i thought everybody was aiming at trump, including the people who were moderating.
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i don't know if that was out of necessity. he's the front-runner. the second thing is the audience. it was wwe in there. it was loud and raucous. i thought they're taking control of this debate. play the best line for the applause. hooting and hollering. >> i was there. before it started, people were piling in there. super excited. they were so loud before it even got started for whatever you saw on television. they were loud during the breaks, during every break they had. let's be almostful to the candidates which was necessary. and they did a nice job. the moderators, obviously, bret and megyn and chris were outstanding and well prepared. i thought it was a very good night. trump was taking heavy c-130 fire all night. no doubt. >> you knew that was going to happen. >> yes. and i thought he hand it well. the crowd, he was pretty good
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not just being one sided like we've seen in prior debates. he had supporters. everybody had their supporters. there i talked to them for a while after the debate and the everybody. they were happy with the debate and happy with fox. and how it went. so i thought it was a very good night. >> can i run a piece of tape from the debate? this is the most interesting thing. it reflects another change in donald trump, what he said. he was talking about the military and getting the military to do what he wants. >> experts have said, when you ask the u.s. military to carry out some of your campaign promises, specifically targeting terrorist families and also the use of interrogation methods, more extreme than waterboarding. the military will refute. they've been trained to turn down and refuse illegal orders. so what would you do as commander in chief if the u.s. military refused to carry out those orders? >> they won't refuse them won't
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refuse me. >> but targeting terrorists' families. >> i've always been a leader. i've never had a problem leading people. if i say do it, they do it. >> since then, they issued a statement saying he understand that's the united states is bound bylaws. so basically saying, co-force the military to do war crimes. he has walked back. >> he said he doesn't want to go to the hague. you said it is a flip-flop. the definition of somebody in power and says one thing and gets elected and then changes later. i think he is willing to talk freely off the cuff when someone asks him a question. he makes the answer and then later he thinks about it and decides that's not what he really thought. i don't think it is promising one thing to make people happy of i think it is talking freely off the cuff. in a way, it is scary because he hand thought through his
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positions. >> i think you're saying he loves to talk and talk and talk. when you approach him, he might change his mine. >> but he admits it freely. look, on two different occasions, he said i've changed. >> but isn't that -- you may not like the guy but at least it is refreshing. maybe he'll teach the other politicians on the stage -- >> wait a second. a minute ago republicans are saying it is so refreshing. he tells it like it is. he just slugs them and knocks them out and says it. now you're saying, oh, no, no, no, now he's flexible. you know what? he's running in a general election. he thinks he has it wrapped up. that's what's going on. >> the fact is this goes against everything he has criticized politicians about. saying what needs to be said and then changing it when you want to win. >> that was a very good distinction you made. politicians will say what they want to get elected.
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once they get elected, the only thing they can think about. we've better viewed enough politicians. they don't care about what promises they made. repealing obamacare, spending. they care from minute one about re-election. how they'll raise money and who they'll do favors for. >> a minute ago at cpac, cruz said he will abolish the irs, repeal obamacare. those are things he can't deliver. that's what people are sick of. promises that are impossible as nice as they would be. >> i want to get a last word to dana if she's still there. are you there? >> yes. i thought having four candidates instead of even six was good for every candidate but donald trump. i think that one of the things that happened last night on that war crimes point in particular is that that had been building through the week. there's a lot to cover in a campaign. and they don't, i don't know if they have enough staff to look
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around and say, now the military is saying they would not follow that order. it is not because they would disobey the commander in chief. it would be because it was against the law. therefore the commander in chief would never want to ask its military to do that. i think he was right to change it. but i think if you are concerned about national security on the substance of a lot of issues and not just national security. that was not a shining moment. i think that a lot of people that want to run for office. they do it with all sincerity. and then yeah. there is overpromising on all sides. that includes from donald trump, which has been one of my concerns from day one when he said i'm going to bring back all the jobs from china. that's not going to happen. you can bring back some jobs from china by encouraging american companies to stay here through better taxes and regulations. but you won't bring all the jobs back. overpromising is a sure way to disappoint your voters. >> all right. thank you. we'll see you a little later this hour for more of your fun
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we're looking at ben carson on the stage at cpac. and we are learning that he may suspend his campaign. >> let's take a listen. >> extract information from the past and the present and process it and project it into the future. and think rationally and logically instead of just reacting. you don't need to have much of a developed brain to simply react. to react in fear. animals can do that. lizards can do that. we are human beings. so we must really start to think about, right now in america, what we need is leadership. many people have said who are you going to endorse? well, let me tell you exactly. let me tell you exactly the
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criteria that one should use when utilizing that brain. if we're talking about somebody who is going to lead america, and the world, you need someone who has demonstrated significant accomplishment in their life. number one. you need somebody whose ideas and policies are clear and easy to find so that with your intellect, you can evaluate them. you need to look at how they treat others and their family. that's how they'll treat the american people. we need to see what have they done for america? someone should have demonstrated in their life that they are trying to improve life for
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people in america. we should look at the people they work with. who are those people? what do they have to say? and how have they been able to collaborate -- >> we've been listening to dr. ben carson who fox news has told that he will probably suspend his campaign at cpac right now or maybe at a press avail after he speaks. let's talk about this a little bit. i like what he is saying. i had not really heard ben carson for a couple months. >> it is nice. it is like he is listing his criteria. it makes you think, who is that person now remaining in the race? because there is some talk and rumors that perhaps he would make an endorsement and a lot of people would expect it to be somebody like donald trump.
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that's what i was hearing all last night. >> what do you think about this doctor? >> i would be surprised if he endorsed trump. but it's been quite a season. what strikes me is one, you know, the end of ben carson's efforts. and he really was a surprise candidate to me in terms of how successful he was and he still is a tremendous money raiser. but the money got spent. burnt quickly. and i think there was lots of dysfunction. to hear him talk about how people handle their business. you can't take your hat off to him. i think his campaign did damage to itself. >> he won't endorse ted cruz. >> i think the staffers have been told, march 31, your last paycheck. >> my last paycheck? i think he just fired me on
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television. >> no. >> no. i'm going to try -- i'm sweating now. i'm going to try to recover. you see how he is so unlike the other guys. you can't imagine him rolling with that crazy crew from last night. my 5-year-old said about the debates, why don't they just get swords and battle on stage to the death? it feels like that's what they're doing. you listen to what they're saying. >> what is your 5-year-old watching? >> obviously i have to unplug the televisions. a lot of star wars. ben carson is such a different guy from all the other guys. he is so thoughtful. slow paced. that's one of the things that i think was hard for him along the way. you have to be -- >> where does everything from here? surgeon general. the first person to say you'll be the surgeon general, ben
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carson. or the ben carson hour. some time on a weekend when he tells home spun tales. >> an hour but it will take two hours. >> he might play base. he might have a few people who would play base. >> can you imagine? >> the o.j. simpson murder case is more than 20 years old. today, bombshell breaking developments. a possible murder weapon found at the site of simpson' former home. coming up. the decision to ride on and save money. he decided to save money by switching his motorcycle insurance to geico. there's no shame in saving money. ride on, ride proud. geico motorcycle,
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and still now are investigating whether a knife reportedly found buried was the knife that killed nicole brown and her friend, rob ron goldman in 1994. >> within the last month, lapd became aware of an item allegedly recovered by a citizen at the rockingham property, possibly due to the demolition of the site. we need to vet that. we don't know, the person we received this knife from is a retired lapd officer. they are going to study and it examine it for all forensics, including dna and hair samples, double jeopardy would be in place here. so we could not charge mr. simpson with the homicides that he's already been charged with. because he's been acquitted. >> this is big news today. everybody remember this is case
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and where they were when they heard the verdict. it is a bit of a mystery. the actual women was never recovered. then when this news broke today, the questions, why was not this found? there are some conflicting reports that are coming in now that perhaps this has been ruled out as being consistent with the weapon used at the time that nicole and ron were murdered. >> so you were watching this with interest. in my heart i knew it would be nothing. i didn't care. i'm fascinated with the case. i grew up in l.a. i remember exactly where i was when the bronco was on its chase. we love this stuff in america. i don't know if it is a coincidence that series is playing on fx and everybody is watching it. whether it is this or steven avery, this idea that a killer may have gotten away or somebody is in jail that doesn't deserve to be there. it continues to be a fascination with american culture. we're obsessed with it.
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trump was dueling back and forth on twitter. o.j. knocked trump off the twitter list with just this knife thing. >> anybody ever thought this was the knife. this was apparently like a folding knife. whereas the knife that o.j. -- >> this is juan's world. juan's world. >> the knife that o.j. -- >> yeah. >> the knife that was used, that was poixd by o.j. several weeks before the murder was a big large machete type of knife. this was not that. the question is whether it was in any way involved with the murder. no one ever thought it was the weapon. i think what -- >> juan doubles as dr. michael bodden. >> i think someone thought it was the weapon. >> it is our c-block. >> they thought it might have some of o.j.'s blood on it. >> there was blood on it, right? >> they're going to do a test on it to see if there is blood.
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what really fascinates me. it's race, the rich getting away with murder. that's why to this day to pick up on melissa's point, this case fascinates america. the fact that he is still in jail. >> if there was blood on it and it wasn't o.j.'s blood. can you imagine for 25 years, people would be like, wait a minute. we thought o.j. did it but he really didn't? >> yeah. and it was like cato kaelin. something like that. >> you've been very good, well behaved. i almost forgot you were there. >> this is actually the second knife found today. there was one in brentwood and another in trump's back. i think this is a kimmel prank. i'm sorry. it feels like this is just happening too fast. and it is just too weird. i don't believe this knife has anything to do with anything. that's my opinion and i'm sticking with it. >> okay. so cyril wecht and michael
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bodden. he's already been found not guilty in the criminal case. >> the case is still open, correct? >> no. he's been found not guilty. >> no no, he's saying it's an open case for the police department. technically, we don't know who killed them. >> never mine. no problem. i just worked in that office and covered this. >> it is an open case. >> right. if somebody else -- >> it's always an open case. >> juan! so annoying. >> don't you guys watch the first 48? >> if there would be somebody else who could be tried and convicted. as it relates to o.j. simpson, it's done. >> don't give me your law and order business. >> i've been the good wife. is there something you want to share with us? wivy? we'll go back to talk to dana perino and what she's been up
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welcome back to "the five." some breaking news while we were away, dr. ben carson announced to cpac that he is now suspending his bid for the presidential republican nomination. dana perino is there. what are you hearing? >> i just listened to his speech. he just started the q and a. he got a standing ovation from the crowd. it was long sustained. he is wrapping up his pain and here at cpac. >> you know, kimberly, in a way, we've seen such a winnowing of the field. i think with ben carson, there is something else going. on he was really an outstanding different figure. not just talking about that he's black.
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you were touching on it earlier. he is different than the other men and woman who were running. >> yeah. people really like him. you meet him. you like him. he is somebody that people feel good about that you can trust him. very personable. and he really had a tremendous am of support. you think about how far he's come from the national prayer breakfast where he first began. a standout. you really caught attention. then it just caught on from there. he had a lot of people willing to open up their wallets to contribute to his candidacy, his message. he remained very positive throughout the process and come out in a really good strong place. of course he would be very attractive to have for an endorsement. i was saying earlier in the break that i wonder if he is going to be the forgiving heart that he would endorse ted cruz, especially given what trags pird in iowa, with the keeind of
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confusion that went on there. >> the reason kimberly mentions that is because they both share an evangelical base. but if it come to trump, i remember trump was saying this guy, he says, he went to knife somebody and they hit the belt buckle. >> trump repeated what ben carson had written in a book. >> he said it was incredible. >> so ben carson will hand off his evangelical voters to somebody. ted cruz will petition for those. in the outsider world, he was still an outsider. so he will sent his following to one and cruz pulled what he pulled with him in iowa. it may to go trump i can't. see him saying i think marco rubio is your guy or john kasich is your guy. >> i think it is interesting that we watch what's happening to ben carson.
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he followed the path where every thought trump was. he soared so high in the polls. people connected with him in a way that they were not connecting to others. then it didn't happen. it's amazing that the trump phenomenon has been so different. you look at the contrast and you wonder how far it can go or what was different about it. what was different about it? >> the passion. i mean, ben carson had passion. he didn't have the emotion. donald trump is tapping into the anger and i don't think ben carson could. >> no, no, he was tapping into the anger in a religious sense. >> the issue of slavery. remember he said that? he said you get gay going into -- he said some wild things that attracted lots and lots of
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attention. yes. i'm certain. >> a couple things. one thing that was interesting about ben carson, he has an unusual way of speaking. i find it interesting when people refuse to do public speaking. they do not talk to you like at a table. it is unusual and interesting. if you look at the other candidates, outsiders, bernie sanders, and you have a choice between bernie sanders and ben carson on an island. you want somebody who knows how to do something. >> how about to save your life? >> if you have somebody who runs for office his entire life. you wanted that person.
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>> we have perino. she ran a panel on millennials at cpac and i wanted her to tell us about it. >> when i was asked to speak at cpac. i said there's only one topic i want to talk about. that is millennials. they are the largest generation of voting age. 83 million people. young people went for barack obama in the last two elections and i think conservatives have a lot of ground to make up. here's a bit of the panel that i did earlier. many americans no longer believe in the american dream. i want to start there. why do you think that is? >> i think as we've seen, the challenge with millennials, they don't really have faith in institutions. churches, for instance, organized religion. >> millennials cannot be predictable. sometime most quirky and
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unrelatable things really play with millennials. it was put as less patriotic. only 38% think it is the best country in the world. >> that sounded fascinating. >> sorry. i wanted to -- i'm trying to listen to ben carson with one ear. i'm wondering if guess to endorse somebody. i caught up with carly fiorina today. he was the only republican woman in the presidential race. she is the key note speaker. this point about the future of generations, ben carson just talked about it. i know that carly fiorina will talk about that as the future of the party. so something to look forward to in her key note speech. >> thank you. it looks like you're having fun. >> we'll see you back here on monday. have a great time at cpac. ahead, someone here at this table is now a big star in the netflix series house of cards.
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and a brunette for that matter, but apparently someone else here has caught the bug. watch this clip closely from netflix. >> willing to support this race. i'll talk to him. >> you're making a mistake, mrs. underwood. >> a source within the white house tells us this. that the first lady traveled to texas after some sort of a major argument with her husband. got to get your take on this. >> if there is marital discord, they wouldn't want to admit it. her being there for the primary? come on. that could be a smoke screen. >> come. on something is rotten in the game of denmark. don't forget. the new hampshire primary is tomorrow. so whatever momentum the president had coming out of iowa, just like air going out of a popped balloon. >> that was awesome, juan. was that method?
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how did you get into character? did you have an acting coach? do you know what method is? >> they had a script and camera for me. >> you didn't look like you were reading. >> you looked exactly like you do here. >> acting and making things up. that's what you do. you should have started with, i can't believe what i'm hearing. >> let me say this. >> by the way -- >> get out of town. >> i don't know. they let the liberal talk for once. kind of different. >> don't get used to it. >> did you end up meeting kevin spacey? >> no, no. what was interesting to me was that in fact gretchen carlson had met the people who plan, who gets to speak and they said they wanted to do with it gretchen carlson and fox. and i was so pleased. typically they go to the networks, cnn. no. >> where did you do that? >> we did it here.
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>> that's fox studio. >> i don't know. i saw it on another show that wasn't done here. did they pay you a lot of money? >> huge. you wouldn't believe it. i think now it is just over. >> are you union now? >> no. >> sag? >> you'll get check for like 37 cents, right? >> it is usually better than that for a long time. >> it will get replayed in like china. and then you get a ten cent royalty. >> the only good thing these days is you get free movie. >> once i did a series on espn about athletes, great. athletes of the century. so normally of course i'm on fox, right? people who stop me would say, i see you on fox. all of a sudden a new group of people were saying hello. they were timally young men who watch espn. i imagine from this i'll get people who watch netflix. >> ten people. >> who watches house of cards? >> everybody on the planet.
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straight. it was quite impressive. an interesting fact with professional tether ball. inside that ball is a curled up tom cruise. >> that's so weird. >> but you're thinking about it, aren't you? >> i'm thinking about what made you say tom cruise is inside that ball. >> let's not think about it and talk about you. >> so weird. yes. let's go to me. in justice corner. no production value. just use your imagination. so take a look at this. this is a woman fighting back against this ruthless criminal. crime does not pay. she is a cashier at a convenience store in georgia shefrl grappled with this 17-year-old boy after he stole all the money. she grabbed her hammer. she goes in for another smash on him and goes to chase him. he was actually later apprehended. she said he said give me all the
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money. i'll shoot you. i don't advocate you do this. >> can we just point out -- don't try this at home? open up the cash register and give the thug the money. >> or clothe yourself in the second amendment and shoot him. >> the answer for everything. is to shoot them. >> so last night we need to point this out. fox news scored 16.9 million viewers last night. in the debate. so bret, megyn and chris did a fantastic job. that was the highest rated debate this year. also at 11:00, o'reilly put up 7.4 million viewers just after the debate. speaking of o'reilly, make sure you watch tonight. i'm hosting this. a special factor. the guy who is running a super baghdad against donald trump. the only money they'll spend is to take him down. chris wallace will give us some behind the scenes stuff and all the 411 you need for the
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weekend. >> one more thing. >> how often do you see a socialist on fox news? well, greg gutfeld will have to watch. bret baier is hosting a one-hour town hall meeting featuring bernie sanders. this is a first of its kind for fox news. hillary clinton was invited. because of a scheduling conflict -- >> yeah, right. >> she had to wash her hair. >> be sure to mark your hair. greg and i will be eating popcorn and throwing it at the screen. i must say, hillary clinton, show up. fox news would run a great democratic debate. >> did you catch this last night? >> larry kudlow, great guy, everybody almosts him. said my plans for taxes is the best by far for everybody. >> i'm going to tell you why this is important. larry kudlow worked for the reagan administration. as he free market low tax guy. that tell me trump is listening to larry kudlow.
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we are not going to see that trade war with china if trump is elected. he is going to reverse a lot of his economic positions and be much more of a free market low tax, low tav guy. he is listening to larry kudlow. that was a clue a lot of people missed. "special report" up next. >> good evening. welcome to washington. republican heerds are going after gop front-runner donald trump after last night's debate with new vigor and urgency tonight. one day after that prime time debate featuring name calling, mockery and at least one get the kids out of the room moment, trump is spurning conservatives. pulling out of the scheduled speech at the huge annual gathering in suburban washington. he is also flipping positions on another big issue. here is a fox news alert. former secretary of state hillary clinton has agreed to participate in our monday town hall in detroit. we'll have

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