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it's clinton's first appearance on fox news in two years. and that's it for today. have a great week and we'll see you next "fox news sunday." soc. >> can you imagine? >> pillow fight! > good morning, super saturdy results are in and it looks like the battle for the republican presidential nomination is going to be a war of attrition. hi, everyone. i'm maria bartiromo. welcome to "sunday morning fewer tours." trump still the front-runner. after last night you can see cruz is nipping at his heels with 300 delegates to trump's 3 2. marco rubio trailed behind with 128. john kasich has 35. the battleground states of florida and ohio still lie ahead, of course, where rubio and kasich are placing high hopes on their home states.
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first though, the michigan primary is this upcoming tuesday. my next guest is hoping to pick up momentum there, which his campaign says will position him to arrive in cleveland for the republican convention and exit as the nominee. let's talk about that with ohio governor and presidential candidate right now, john kasich. governor, good to see you. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you, maria. >> is that the plan? >> well, the plan is to work every single day and telling people about what i want to do to relieve a lot of their economic anxieties to make sure they feel they can get a job and get decent wages and their kids can graduate from college and get a decent job and not have to live with them in their basement. so we have ideas about that. we're getting good crowds everywhere we're going and it's enthusiastic and it's not only enthusiastic but committed people. we're going to michigan where we are closing and we think we're going to do well in michigan and then we come to geographical
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political center of the world in ohio where i will win and then it's a new ball game. i think it will be difficult for anybody to get enough delegates to just claim the nomination and i think it's going to be an interesting time in cleveland. >> so you are expecting a contested convention going into the republican convention, which of course is the week of july 18th. donald trump is looking at the numbers and he's saying, look, the field has to narrow. i want to go one-on-one against ted cruz and he's suggesting to you and marco rubio should step aside. give us your plan of attack in terms of how you actually do go into that convention with a brokered convention and come out the nominee. >> well, we're just going to be competing all across the country, maria. the calendar is such that it wasn't my home court advantage. now that we're heading up north, we're getting more -- it's march madness. you want to have home court advantage.
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and we look at ohio. we look at pennsylvania. we look at connecticut, new jersey, these are places i can do extremely well including in the west. it's a long way to cleveland. there's a lot of time to go. and we're going to do the best we can to get as many delegates as we can and let people know that some people say the adult on the stage, the one with actually answers and not name calling and so we're just going to keep plugging and we'll hopefully get to cleveland in a good, strong position and leave it up to the convention. >> i guess the question is that enough? you do well in michigan. do you well and take ohio. is that enough? let me put that aside for a moment, governor. i want to ask you about policy and ask but what's important to the voters. you go to a state like michigan and you're seeing jobs the number one issue. you're seeing people worried about foreign workers coming in and taking their job, about technology replacing them. what do you bring to the table? what do you offer those voters?
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>> well, look, actually, michigan has had a pretty decent rebound. a good rebound in terms of jobs. here in the state, we're up over 400,000 jobs with wages growing faster than the national average. and i look at technology in many ways as not an enemy but actually an ability like a tier 1 auto plant in michigan where they really brought a lot of technology and where workers have higher productivity and higher wages and more secure jobs. i think we need to embrace these things that can boost productivity so workers can do better. at the same time, i think it's important in the country that we lower the tax on big businesses and with the combination of skilled workforce, lower energy costs, access to the north american market, i think we can have significant gains in manufacturing. but people are worried. here's the thing. am i going to lose my job? i haven't had a wage increase. i've had my money in a bank. i'm supposed to get interest.
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i'm sure your mother tells you this. she says, maria, tell me, i have my money in the bank and i get no interest on that money. these things are frustrating people and they need to be responded to and it gets down to a better regulatory climate, lower taxes and a path to a balanced budget. >> for sure. and of course now we know that there are five countries that have negative interest rates meaning the banks are basically needing to pay the central bank to even hold that money so they are losing money with where rates are right now. you know, you look at hillary clinton this weekend coming out with her jobs plan. you look at your plan and your other colleagues on the gop looking at tax reform as one of the critical parts to creating jobs. is that what it's about? is it largely about tax reform and rolling back regulation? hillary clinton is looking to raise taxes.
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she wants to raise $1.1 trillion and she's talking about putting more rules and regulations on the docket as it relates to certainly mergers and keeping money abroad. >> maria, listen, the formula that i used in washington was one of balancing a budget and cutting the capital gains tax and simplifying the rules and we had a balanced budget. we paid down a lot of debt. we were in a position where workers were doing very well. jobs were creating. the same thing i've done in ohio. lowering taxes, common sense regulations, surplus in the state of ohio. we know that's the formula that works. that's what we did in washington and bill clinton tried to take credit for a very strong economy. we actually pushed him to the balance budget. so we know what works. if you want to regulate more, tax more and be out of control financially, you're not going to have job creation. you know that.
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the formula works. and in michigan, the governor there has done exactly what i've just said trying common sense positions on regulations and not no regulation but common sense positions and lower taxes and a fiscal policy. these are things that can really work. >> you know, there's the battle with the dems and with hillary clinton in terms of economic policy and then a battle within your own party, governor. what's your take on mitt romney coming out calling trump a fraud. this sort of ripping apart that has happened within the republican party. >> well, maria, here's the thing. you know, donald trump is tapping into the anxiety that these voters have. i mean, seniors are worried they won't get their social security. they believe the government stole their money back to this issue of i educated my son and
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daughter but they can't get a job or i might lose mine. i don't think that you beat donald trump by getting into a name calling contest. i think the way you beat him is to have a vision and to have a record of accomplishment so these people can hear you and say, wait a minute, you know, kasich is onto something here. maybe he's done this before. maybe he has the solution to these problems. if you don't recognize the problems, then people think you don't get it. you know what? i actually grew up in an environment of economic insecurity as a boy. so i completely get it. it's just that i've got some specific answers and have a record that shows that i can solve these things. working with others of course. >> do you agree with donald trump's take on mexico where america loses and wants to change things with tariffs? >> i don't. one out of every five american workers are involved in trade. there are 38 million americans whose jobs depend on trade. my agreement with him is on this.
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whenever somebody violates these trade agreements, we shouldn't look the other way, maria. if we turn this over to some international bureaucrat to try to resolve, by the time they find in our favor, people have lost their jobs. i mean, you know about the dumping that has occurred in the steel industry where south koreans dumping steel in here below the cost of making it and disrupt our economy and take our people's jobs. that's an outrage. so it is important that we enforce the rules and not sit around waiting for somebody to debate this stuff until kingdom come and our workers are out of a job. that's wrong. i agree with him on that. >> governor, you make a lot of great points. we'll be watching the next couple weeks. thank you for joining us this morning. >> thank you. >> good to see you. governor john kasich. donald trump and ted cruz clear the field for a two man race. we'll talk to former house speaker newt gingrich about what lies ahead for the gop. hope you'll follow me on twitter@maria bartiromo
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if you don't want to see donald trump as nominee, i invite you to join our team as so many supporters of marco and john did in kansas. >> joining us right now is newt gingrich former speaker of the house and fox news contributor. mr. speaker, good to see you. >> good to be with you. >> do you agree that we're going into a contested convention? >> no, not yet. i think that a little bit of what cruz said is real. first of all, the most amazing number from yesterday is that the insurgents, cruz and trump, got 107 delegates and the traditional candidates got 15. now, that's an amazing share. it means that cruz who would have started the year as probably the least desirable candidate is seen by the establishment may be about to become the establishment candidate in order to stop trump.
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this is the world turned upside down and dramatically different. i think the key to whether or not we're going to go to some kind of brokered convention or open convention is frankly florida. if trump can win florida and get all of the delegates from florida because it's a winner take all state, he begins to rebuild a massive lead. if, on the other hand, rubio can survive and can win his home state, then you really are moving toward some kind of open convention in a way that we have no experience of and would have no idea how it would come out. >> having said that, if we were to see a narrower field now, where do those votes go? in other words, do you agree that perhaps marco rubio should step aside and endorse cruz then if he's now becoming the establishment? >> i'm a little surprised by cruz calling for it now.
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i think it's about ten days too early. if rubio stepped aside ride now, trump would win florida. there's nobody going to -- cruz is not going to beat trump in florida. and so trump frankly in the last polls was way ahead in florida even against rubio who is the home state. so from a pure delegate standpoint, for cruz's strategy to work, he needs rubio one last time. similarly, if kasich were to step down now, odds are high that trump would win ohio. ohio is a winner take all state. plus, kasich has a shot in the last poll which came out yesterday, kasich was slightly ahead of trump in michigan 33-31. if kasich were to win michigan and then win ohio, now you move toward a brokered convention in some kind of way because nobody would have enough votes at that point to be the dominant figure. it's more up in the air than people think it is. i think yesterday frankly was not a great day for trump. cruz had a very good day.
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he got 59 delegates. trump got 48. you can't be the front runner very long if you keep getting fewer delegates than somebody else. so cruz has an increasingly good claim that he's a serious alternative and it's hard to see the other guys emerging unless kasich would pick off both michigan and ohio and then you would be back to a new three-way race without rubio. >> really, really interesting and spot on analysis there. mr. speaker, let me ask you about this most recent upset within the party. mitt romney coming out and saying, look, trump is a fraud. he's playing the american people. has this damaged the establishment or the gop in general or has this been helpful to his corner of the race? >> well, look, i think it probably damaged trump a little bit but damaged romney a lot more. i was with romney and trump in las vegas in 2012 when trump endorsed romney and romney talking about trump as a great
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job creator. you look at the tape and look at the speech this week which was just over the top. it's perfectly fine for mitt to say he doesn't think trump should be president but his speech was over the top and hurt mitt more than it hurt trump. >> yes. there was a lot of talk from viewers who say stop telling me what i'm supposed to say and supposed to think. that's how we got here in the first place. >> i think trump has helped because for a very large number of republicans, maybe as many as 40% of the whole party, there's a sense of the establishment betraying them. this is not a party which wants the failed candidate from the last election to get up and lecture them on what to do. he tried. he failed. time for him to go do something else with his life.
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>> hillary clinton out with her economic plan this weekend. anything strikes you from what she's calling a jobs plan? >> it's a job killing plan. it's a typical liberal democratic plan. and it's the effort by the democrats to turn america into france. punish the successful, drive people out of the country and make sure we don't create large jobs and have a large welfare state and go bankrupt. it's mindless how little they learn from what's gone wrong in europe and what's gone wrong mere. states that cut taxes and states tough on regulations are coming back. kasich is a perfect example in ohio on what a governor can do to create jobs. hillary is the greatest job killing president in modern times. >> look at some states and how people are moving out of the high tax areas. they are looking for lower corporate tax areas as well. mr. speaker, good to speak with you as always. we'll see you soon.
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welcome back. senator marco rubio is pressing on predicting a brighter road ahead in the gop contest with a special emphasis on winner take all primary in florida. rubio had a disappointing super saturday last night not winning any states up for grabs. donald trump says it's a sign
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the senator should bow out but rubio takes a more optimistic outlook. >> i think marco rubio had a very, very bad night. personally, i would call for him to drop out of the race. i think it's time now that he drop out of the race. i really think so. >> math only gets friendlier for us and after super tuesday. we knew this would be the roughest period in the campaign given the makeup of the electoral count. >> joining me now is darrell issa. a member of the house judiciary committee and a marco rubio supporter. congressman, good to see you. thank you for joining us this morning. >> thanks for having me on. donald trump got less delegates than cruz and quite frankly only won two out of four states. >> that's a fair point. i think now newt gingrich just said ted cruz went into this race being the least desirable from the gop's standpoint and
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he's ending up possibly being the establishment. could you see yourself switching over to ted cruz and being his supporter? >> it's my desire to support the nominee of the party, but i want someone who believes he is a member of party and has done so for a long time. you know, with ted cruz my first choice? no. i went with an inspirational candidate with marco rubio and i still believe that if we go to a brokered convention and you have all of the ifs, if he wins his home state as we fully expect he will, we go to a brokered convention, it's almost the abraham lincoln situation over again. you have somebody of no ideas in donald trump. he's a little like going into an election where he's cocky and he does everything fine. at the end of the day, on the house floor, individual delegates, people will ask the question of if not on the first round trump then who is their
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second choice and if you talk to people -- i know you do around the country -- rubio is almost always in the top two even if he's not the number one choice. >> i think that's a great analysis. what is a brokered convention do for the perception of the party going into the general election? i mean, do you think that would be damaging for the party for those independents out there who are not sure if they're actually going to go for a gop candidate or hillary clinton. >> well, it depends on whether or not the process is inclusive as it has been. if it's bringing many new voters into the primaries as it has been. if the process in cleveland is about the delegates deciding and picking the best candidate and candidates because there's a vice president to be chosen to change america in the way that we want it, that we're inspired to, one in which jobs are created in the private sector
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and government works for us and not against us and we start knowing more about our government instead of our government always knowing more about us. those are principles that will be relevant in cleveland that might not be so relevant had we picked, if you will, an anointed insider. there's no insider left in this race. marco rubio was not the pick for florida. cruz was not the pick for texas. and governor kasich has been out of the mainstream, if you will, of washington life for a long time and trump isn't necessarily even a republican. at this point, the nominee of the party will likely be somebody who very much is sort of a ronald reagan outsider or even greater. >> really fascinating what's going on, congressman. it's just been amazing to watch. let me switch gears and ask you about apple. your committee of course, judiciary committee, held
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hearings on the apple versus fbi battle here. you say it's not one phone. what the fbi is asking apple to do is in fact ultimately making the country more vulnerable. is that right? >> it's absolutely right. the director made it clear. he won't say he wants a back door but what he wants is a piece of software to open hundreds of phones very quickly. when he was questioned about have you tried -- have you asked for the source code and do things allowing you to crack this phone, he either didn't know or said no repeatedly. i think the director was honest and straightforward. his job in his opinion is not to find the balance on the constitution. his job is to push hard to get as much evidence as he can, any way he can and let the court tell him when to stop and as you know in new york the court has told him to stop. >> so does congress need to step in here? a lot of people look at congress say, look, do something in the way of legislation so that this
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case moves forward because we can't do anything else at this point. >> well, apple is doing the right thing in their view. the fbi director is doing the right thing in their view. i believe that the court should be allowed to go forward with a process for a period of time. right now if we were to change, if you will, the act of 1789, how would we change it? has it been defined where there are limitations could or should be or whether there's an expansion. i certainly don't want to expand the powers of our government, if you will, after 200 plus years unless there's a full vetting of where that would be. so i'm of the opinion that with a california case going one way and a new york case going another way, this really needs to go through a process. by the way, it's going through a process very quickly. the brief deadline was thursday. you're looking at a case that is on a rocket docket of just weeks
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for each cycle and you put that against the backdrop of 2010 brian terry killed in the desert of arizona and that case hasn't even gone up on appeal yet. it's still being argued at the district court level. this is going quickly. quickly enough for the american people to find out where the balance is on their keeping their private lives private. >> it's fascinating the way things have changed since the revelations from edward snowden. good to have you on the program. thanks so much, sir. >> thanks, maria. >> we'll see you soon. a former state department employee has been granted immunity in the hillary clinton e-mail investigation. what is the impact? i'll talk with former attorney general on that. back in a moment. general mion tha a heart attack doesn't care if you run everyday, or if you're young or old. no matter who you are a heart attack can happen without warning. if you've had a heart attack, a bayer aspirin regimen can help prevent another one. be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin
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welcome back. hillary clinton dogged by her growing e-mail controversy. a new "washington post" and alys shows clinton served over 100 e-mails over her private server that contained sensitive information. this after the justice department granted immunity to her form er staffer who set up and operated the private server. the latest developments raising more questions on whether clinton put government secrets at risk. joining me to talk about this is former u.s. attorney general judge michael mukasey. good to see you. thank you for joining us, mr. attorney general. so clinton is stressing that the classified e-mails were not
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marked classified. explain that. >> that's a half-truth. i'm sure that when they went on her system they were not marked classified. the question is were they ever classified and do they have a run on system that carries only classified information and if the answer to that is yes, it has to be, who took them off and at whose direction? that's the interesting question. >> that's why this immunity situation is important. clearly when she was transferring from a government system to her own private server -- >> or somebody was. >> something moved those documents and marked them differently. >> or removed the markings and at one point you recall there's an e-mail from her saying she wants talking points that he says he can't get classified fax machine for so she says make it un-paper and moves it nonclassified. in other words, she knows how to move something on a system that requires lower classification.
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>> so this is basically the course of business. she knew exactly what to do next. just make it unmarked. >> unmarked. un-paper as she put it. >> in terms of the seriousness of this case, how would you characterize this staffer pagliano getting immunity? what does it tell you? >> it tells me a couple things. it tells me that people at the top echelons of the justice department are interested in this and authorized it because the fbi on its own doesn't give immunity. a line assistant doesn't give immunity. that requires permission of an assistant attorney general or higher. and what it means they want to know the details of the conversations at the time this was set up and who said what to whom and when. >> do you think this is going to get resolved before november? before the democratic convention in july? >> one word answer, yes. because jim comey, a man who
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doesn't use words casually, or carelessly, among the adverbs he used to describe how he would deal with this was the word promptly. and i don't know whether it's my imagination or not, but i think his voice dropped a little bit when he got to that word. i take him seriously. i take him at his word. >> the fact they are granting immunity to her staffer and he says this will be done promptly, you would expect a head to this case in the next couple weeks. >> yes. i don't know about couple but the next several. >> you have to believe that this has impacted her standing as a candidate because bernie sanders is beating her in some races. >> that may not be what's accounting for it. sanders has a different kind of appeal and has foresworn any reliance on or invocation of the e-mails. >> what's the worst-case scenario or best case for
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hillary clinton in the next several weeks? how does this play out? >> best case for her is the fbi makes an announcement saying they have found no evidence of any criminal liability from the misdemeanor that general petraeus pleaded guilty to on up to obstruction. no evidence of that. some staffers may have committed offenses but that's it. >> and worst case? would she get indicted? >> i think what would happen is they would develop the case outside of the grand jury and not in the grand jury and then go to her and her lawyer and say this what we've got. now, what are you willing to plead to? >> that would obviously leak. that would be a major issue. >> if she said no it would certainly leak. >> mr. attorney general, good to see you. thank you for joining us this morning. john michael mukasey there. howard, good morning. >> chris wallace will join us in talking about his role in that
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debate with trump and rubio went at it and trump talked about his anatomy among other things and look at how the press is covering the gop's establishment last-ditch effort to stop donald trump and whether ted cruz winning a couple states last night changes the media narrative and bernie sanders winning two out of three but hillary with a big lead. >> and we will be there. up next, sometimes you have to take a lighter look at the election. up next, michael ramirez will give us his perspective as we get set with our panel to look ahead on "sunday morning futures." t set with our panel t ahead on "sunday morning futures." those new glasses? they are. do i look smarter? yeah, a little. you're making money now, are you investing? well, i've been doing some research. let me introduce you to our broker. how much does he charge? i don't know. okay. uh, do you get your fees back if you're not happy?
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this is one of the most recent works called "weekend at bernie's." and joining our panel, ed rollins, fox news contributor and steve is with us this morning. distinguished visiting fellow at the heritage foundation. fox news contributor. good to see everyone. michael ramirez, give us your sense of what the political cartoon of the week tells us. >> it gets more complicated and more complicated each election cycle with disruption in the gop primaries. we have a lot of states coming up. these states are still problematic for donald trump because they are proportional and when you get into march 15th, you get winner take all states and perhaps that will be the deciding factor in this race. >> for sure. we need our panel on that. let's just look at this one
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cartoon. one of your recent ones. hillary clinton running from bernie sanders winning that but actually dealing with the fbi. >> you know, it's amazing when you think about it. you get the 2,000 classified e-mails but what's in the 30,000 e-mails that hillary did not reveal to the public? there's a real question lingering there. >> we heard from michael mukasey on that and he thinks this will be decided and come to a head promptly and that's from jim comey. ed, a spoiler last night from ted cruz. give me your reaction. >> ted cruz has momentum now. voters made up their mind late in louisiana and kentucky were moving toward him. he basically -- it's a two-person race. it's trump and him. rubio and kasich depending on
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their home states even if kasich wins ohio and even if rubio wins florida, they don't move up the ladder. they are still -- both of them skip the ones this week. idaho, michigan and mississippi this week. rubio is not going near any of them so someone is going to come out of these and my sense it will be cruz and trump with momentum this week going into those home states. >> are we going into a brokered convention as john kasich hopes to see? >> could easily be. my sense is if it's a brokered convention it's probably trump and cruz leading it and no one having quite the majority. >> it makes me bring up this other cartoon from michael and that is with the elephant, gop, in the phone booth. let's show that one there. as i turn to you, judy. could somebody please let me out. >> do you think we go to a brokered convention? >> i don't know.
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it's clear that trump's momentum seems to have been broken but what really is a problem out there for the republican candidates, all of them but especially trump and cruz is this gender gap. women just don't like donald trump. they don't like him by sizable margins and i think trump's debate devastating debate where he used this whoopee cushion language really offends women and everyone is paying attention to mitt romney and his attack on trump but i think nikki haley did equal damage when they said this is behavior we teach our kindergarten children not to engage in. >> i want to talk about the women vote in our next segment. i spoke with madeleine albright and she back pedalled out of that comment that there's a place in hell for women that don't help women. real quick, steve, more on the economic side of things.
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hillary clinton came out with her economic plan on friday. your thoughts on how it compares to the gop? >> this is the big divide between the two parties. hillary as you talked about earlier has a trillion tax increase. she wants to increase taxes on businesses and investors and republicans have to make the case that every republican plan i worked on some of these has reduced rates, broadens the base and tries to bring more capital in and that's the point that trump needs to make more successfully. when he got hit with the $10 trillion tax cut, he swung and missed at that one. >> we'll take a short break and get back to this. the women vote. we're looking ahead to "sunday morning futures" with our panel. stay with us. looking ahead to morning futures" with our panel. stay with us.
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she has done more for women and wants to do more for women than anybody else. she is equal pay for equal work. she wants to really make sure that we have choices about what we do, and women's health issues generally being supportive of women, there is nobody that is running that has a better record on women. but i should not have said it in terms of voting. >> former secretary of state madeleine albright talking about the women vote earlier on "morning's with maria." >> it's absolutely crucial. it's not showing up now in the contest between sanders and
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clinton. ironically, sanders is doing very, very well, especially with younger women. >> so more women are going for sanders than hillary clinton. and you made the point that trump doesn't have women. hillary doesn't have women either. >> she doesn't. but she has older women. and she has an older demographic. and she's counting on that in the general election. look, she is halfway to the 2,383 delegates that she needs. she's going to get the nomination, unless something happens. >> she's cleaning up on the minority vote. she has a problem with kind of white middle class blue collar workers. and i think that's the problem with the democrats. the problem for the republicans right now, as a republican, this makes me very nervous. i think there is a plan afoot that's being hatched not just by mitt romney, but other party leaders to try to find a way to essentially steal this nomination from trump if it goes to a convention.
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if that happens, what makes me nervous is all of these -- the one thing donald trump says that's absolutely true is he is bringing in middle class voters. what do they do if they feel like this is stolen from trump? >> they're going to get mad and revolt. >> you better believe it. >> there's a revolt in the party to begin with. no question the two candidates that are leading this pack basically are not conventional republicans. obviously cruz is a conservative and supportive. the critical thing about women is women are 53% the population. it's always going to be a problem running against women. but she has the same problem with white males which she had eight years ago. young voters are not necessary voters. at the end of the day, they were the backbone of obama's victories. if they're not enthused, they won't vote and i think they're not enthused, so the premise here is hillary is stealing the election from sanders, and not giving him his just due.
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>> people just don't like hillary. it's that simple. >> what's ironic is cruz is probably in a best position to get rid of trump. but he's in a weaker position to run in a general election. >> the establishment, if you started with the 14 people who are running for president, the two the establishment hated the most were donald trump and ted cruz. and here's what's interesting. who will the establishment get behind on the republican side if it's trump versus cruz? a lot of these folks i talked to said maybe trump's better than cruz. i don't know the answer to that. >> the establishment candidates are all by the wayside. >> maybe they would learn a lesson from that. >> the two that are still the favorites are basically rubio, who's basically running third, and kasich who's running fourth. with no premise of moving forward. >> michael ramirez, jump in here. >> the interesting dynamic is you may have three candidates, hillary and donald trump and ted cruz, that nobody really likes that much. and the media talked a lot about
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bush fatigue. they haven't talked a lot about clinton fatigue. it's alive and well. it reflects in a lack of enthusiasm for hillary clinton. another mitigating factor is going to be whether or not he gets indicted. the justice department and lois lerner would probably not go after her, too. >> we just heard michael mccasey on that. and we don't know. we know that james comey wants to get this done properly. could trump beat hillary in a general election? >> i believe he can. because i think he's -- by the way, i don't have a horse in this race. but i think he brings millions of those middle class reagan democrats into the party, and that's enough red i think to compensate for the republican voters he will lose. >> do you agree? >> he has to do better with women and hispanic. >> he has to do a lot better with hispanics and they broke overwhelmingly for hillary. >> and now the question becomes can cruz beat hillary in a general election? hold your thought on that. michael ramirez, good to see
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back with the back with the panel. most important thing to watch ahead? >> the thursday night debate. >> and you don't think trump had a good debate? >> i think he's had two terrible debates. i think if he has a third one again, which more points get made on him, i think he's going to have a hard time. >> judy? >> i'm wondering whether or not this is the week president obama is going to nominate someone to replace scalia to the supreme court. >> new headline there. >> i'm wondering if peyton manning is really going to retire. >> i think he is. >> it all comes down to florida, which is nine days. if trump wins florida, i think he's got the nomination wrapped
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up. if he loses it, we may be looking at the convention scenario. >> real quick, yes or no answer. can cruz beat hillary? >> yeah, i think he can. >> ed? >> yes. >> no way. >> okay. that will do it for us. thanks, panel. this is a fox news alert. we're awaiting election results from the republican primary in puerto rico. >> that contest is a winner take all, 23 delegates are at stake. the polls closed exactly two hours ago. we'll bring you those results as soon as they come in. but first, we start with the nation and the world paying tribute to former first lady nancy reagan at this hour. mrs. reagan known for her dignity, her grace, as well as her influence and devotion to her husband, president ronald reagan, especially during his eight years in the white house.


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