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john kasich just retained a couple people to help his campaign who have expertise in a contested convention. my colleagues here, on the anchor desk with me, bret baier, he left. now, we bring you the kelly file. the two front runners move closer, well come to a special live 11:00 p.m. edition of "the kelly file" everyone. bret was here, but he's off at a bar i'm going to meet him later. as mentioned it was a big night for donald trump who proved victorious in florida, handily beating senator marco rubio, leading to marco rubio's exit from the race, saying he suspended his campaign. governor kasich fended off truck in ohio.
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we're wasting for results out of missouri. on the democratic side it was hillary clinton's night. she won all of the announced contests thus far, now, we await the final results in the first, well, again, awaiting the results in missouri, here is a little of what we have heard from candidates so far tonight. on tonight it is clear while we're on the right side, this year, we will not be on the winning side. while this may not have been the year for a hopeful and optimistic message about our future, i remain hopeful and optimistic about america. i asked the american people do not give in to the fear. do not give into to the frustration. we can disagree about public policy. we can disagree passionately, but we're a hopeful people. we have every right to be hopeful. >> we are moving closer to
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securing the democratic party nomination and win this election. we should be breaking down barriers not building walls. we're not going to succeed by dividing this country between us and them. >> you know, to be great, we can't be small. we can't lose what made america great in the first place. >> to have people believe in you and to believe you ask bring people together and strengthen our country, i have to thank the people of the great state of ohio. i love you. is it all right? and i want to remind you, again, tonight, that i will not take the low road to the highest office in the land. >> are you tired of the handful of billionaires running our
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economy? well, if you are, you've come to the right place. >> i just want to congratulate everybody. this is a really interesting process, it's an amazing process, it's very tough. if you get to the end you can handle a lot of things including pressure. that, i can tell you. there is nothing like it. >> i just want to say we're going to go forward and we're going to win. importantly we're going to win for the country. we're going to win, win, win, we're not stopping. we're going to have great victories for the country. thank you very much. thank you. thank you. >> starting tomorrow morning, every republican has a clear choice. only two campaigns have a plausible path to the nomination. ours, and donald trump's. nobody else has any mathematical
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possibility whatsoever. only one campaign has beaten donald trump over and over and over again. >> we have a jam-packed show for you tonight. the man who helped organize president obama's victory in 2008 is with us, plus, mike huckabee joins us and trump spokeswoman, katrina pierceon. we begin with our chief political correspondent, campaign carl cameron reporting live from palm beach, florida. hi, carl. >> megyn, another victory for donald trump and they're pumped up about it. i talked to the campaign earlier today and they said they can't wait for it to be what ted cruz says it is, a two-man race. the cruz campaign suggested that they thought it was likely that by the end of the night, donald
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trump might have a 250 delegate count advantage. they said if less than that, around 200 that would be a moral victory for the cruz campaign, but if it was higher, it would mean donald trump had a good night. he can be over 300 delegates. so a bit of a set back for cruz. donald trump over and over again, tonight. showing what he has described as his ability to be presidential criticize him. mention john not once did he mention ted cruz or criticize him. the only candidate that donald trump actually mentioned tonight is marco rubio. and frankly, he was gracious about it. watch. >> i have to say it. i have to say it. that number one, i want to congratulate marco rubio on having run a tough campaign. he's tough and smart and he's got a great future. >> marco rubio has withdrawn
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from the race, recognizing this year was not his turn, but a lot of reading of the tea leaves suggested he wants to be around, perhaps at the end of a democratic term in 2020. marco, 2020. it's been a long night for donald trump. they're very, very excited about it. saying hillary clinton buys influence and ted cruz sells it. the campaign is already looking forward to the ways in which they can defeat ted cruz. mentioning california, saying they can take him out there. even compete and beat him in new york. both states with lots of delegates. the cruz campaign figures if it's going to win, it won't be until june 7. >> carl, thank you. joining us now, former campaign manager of president obama's 2008 campaign, he endorsed hillary clinton for president. david let me start with this.
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there are a lot of folks that are against trump who say this is the implosion of the republican party. this party will never be the same. this is trump's party now. and you're with him or not with him, but the g.o.p. will never look the same again. what do you think? >> i don't agree with that at all. i think basically, this is a moment. if trump goes on to be the nominee, and i think he probably will, there will be wound licking and examination. then, you move on to the next election. i think at the end of the day it's going to be interesting to see the choice between cruz and trump. neither have a choice of the establishment. people are going to have to pick their poison. >> who would hillary clinton rather run against? . >> i still think trump has more
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elast elasticity. he says a lot of things that blue collar voters sees a ideological conservative, cruz, you know what you're getting. with trump, let's take a look at last year. you know, you prepare and you've never seen anything like in politics. it's a kind of race, he's winning the nomination. he doesn't run advertising. he gets millions of dollars spent against him and no effect, yet, he's winning. that is what i think would make it hard for hillary clinton. every day, you don't know what you're going to get. >> what will she do to combat middle class voters and reagan democrats. they'd like to cross over and
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vote for donald trump. >> she's still having to secure the nomination. i think she's all but the certain nominee now. she's got to define the race. what it's about. she's got to define donald trump and she's got to define herself. in terms of why she's joining now, she doesn't do that. trump is able to get to the senate. she doesn't disqualify trump, and then, you know, trump is generating a lot of enthusiasm, bringing people into the process. and you know at the end of the day, to win, you have to maximize your turn out. >> yes. >> and right now particularly young voters, perceive it as very, very, close, at the end of the day. >> how does it work out there. is a large portion of the republican party that doesn't like trump now there, is a large
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portion of the democratic party that says all right. we'll go for it if that is our nominee but they're not showing up. they're not enthusiastic, as you point out, and the turnout is lower than when your guy, barack obama was running. >> the turnout is real. i think that is going to be the most serious issue that clinton campaign will have to deal with, how to make sure we get our turnout numbers and vote share number was younger voters, latinos? kind of the obama coalition. it is not the democratic coalition or the clinton coalition. so she's got to focus there. we've had a tough primary in 2008 and the party united. you'll see people reunited. i think when the republican side is more difficult. i have believed that at the end of the day, are you going to have huge swaths of the republican party, voters saying i'm not going to vote?
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i think what is interesting, trump going to have to write a check or raise money. from people he's attacking. i am not sure he can run that data analytics. if trump is going to rewrite every rule, he's going to have to have traditional establishment help to do that. >> do you think he's going to need this wisdom, a month ago, is he going to need a healthy portion of hispanics and a healthy portion of women to win. do you think that is still true? do you think he feels he'll do well with those groups? >> i don't. that is where he's got to upset the card, and have to overperform with older white voters and blue collar voters and hope he can suppress democratic turn out. i don't see him getting above, and listen, we talk about the vote, it matters in florida,
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nevada, colorado. it's growing in places like virginia. i don't see him getting above 25%-27%. that is where pressure on him to overperform with white voters. i don't see cruz doing much better. i think cruz not going to do any better with latino voters because he's very conservative. i think trump gives you more upside. that my sense now. >> he could implode. >> he could implode. >> but there is no evidence that is likely to happen. none. >> well, not so far. the guy had nine political lives. i mean, just this week, it was thought the episode in chicago would hurt him in illinois and he wins illinois and is going to win a lot of delegates in chicago. so he's defied every prediction, every convention. and you know, my sense is that you can see, listen, there are things he says, people like him should pay more taxes. we should stop inversion. we should close the carried interest loophole.
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i won't go the iran deal out on day one. i think people ought to get health care. a lot of swing voters will say well, he seems like he is all fluster, they don't like what he says about muslims and latinos but he said thing that's swing voters would say that makes sense to me. >> he's got unfortunate numbers when it comes to honesty, hers are terrible. so it's, it almost takes away ability to charge him with that. i don't think it can hurt him, and neither side cares about that. and that is the state of politics in 2016, america. david, great speaking with you. >> thanks, megyn. our coverage continues with governor mike huckabee here to talk about what happens when donald trump turns his focus to
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>> when we hear a candidate for president call for rounding up 12 million immigrants, banning all muslims from entering the united states, when he embraces torture, that doesn't make him strong, that makes him wrong. >> rhyming is always fun. hillary clinton seeming confident she's a stronger candidate than trump. our next guest says democrats are making a mistake if underestimating the appeal of a businessman. rhyming is fun. it adds pizazz, to, well, i don't know. you tell me. >> ted cruz said something in his speech a few moments ago that probably is exactly right. after tonight this is a two-person race. but the two people are hillary
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and trump. the contrast is between hillary and trump is simple. donald trump gave a speech like a candidate going somewhere. hillary clinton gave a speech like a person sorry she's been somewhere. it was a bitter, angry speech. that is now how you excite americans. >> so do you -- i mean throughout the campaign, trump has been underestimated by almost everybody, right? we've seen that repeatedly. said he didn't have a chance, now, here we are. 17 candidates. 18, no more. and you were there. and now, it's down to effectively -- >> the reason i'm sitting in the chair talking to you instead of on stage is because like everybody else, i underestimated. donald trump and the connection he was having to voters. no doubt about that. >> that is the risk democrats run in taking him on because
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he's unlike anything they've seen or dealt with before. even the clintons, with the clinton playbook, they don't know what to do with him. >> they really don't. they're conventional politicians but they're rugged, they're ruthless, i've run against machine. every race i have had to fight in arkansas. so i run against their machine. i can tell you hillary is in for the ride of her life when she has to tick on donald trump. it will be unlike anything she or her husband have faced before. i really think it is, you know, game advantage for trump. >> so quickly. about other republicans. why do you rule out ted cruz? notwithstanding the fact he is still very much saying he's in the race? >> he didn't win tonight.
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nothing. may end up squeaking by missouri. it looks like trump. if he doesn't win missouri he wins nothing. the contrast, donald trump gave for him was a unique speech. it was humble. it was the kind of speech presidents make. ted cruz didn't win, but he spoke as if he had. as if it were a victory speech and it would have been more effective if he'd gone out with a sense of humility and said folks we didn't win, but here is how we're going to go forward. >> trump didn't do so great when he said reporters are disgusting. i want to talk about marco rubio. he was gracious and had a lovely
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message. your thoughts on watching him saying his swan song. >> just classy. i was so proud of him tonight. i've known marco a long time. he did tonight what a person has to do in a moment like this. he left with dignity, he left with class. people have no idea what it's like to be the person in the arena. no offense, but a lot of people on television, talking heads and analysts and consultants and strategists have their opinions and tell what a candidate ought to do, what he should have done, and they haven't been in at rena but marco has. he walked out and gave a classy reminder of why a lot of people do love marco rubio. and he exited tonight not with his head down, he may have lost the race, but he did not lose his dignity, he did not lose his sense of purpose, he did not lose his mission.
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and i felt like that he left the door open for a wonderful future. i was very, very touched by watching him go to that stage with a smile on his face. i know that hurts. but he did it the way it's supposed to be done. and i congratulate him for that. >> thanks governor. >> thank you. >> where does the republican race go from here? mark theissan on the fallout of the night and charles hurt on what he thinksd wrong. >> i want to remind you i will not take the low road to the highest office in the land.
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they're counting in missouri. donald trump marvelled at his own success, listen. >> nobody has ever, ever, in the history of politics received the kind of negative advertising. and vicious, horrible. they said 18 million the first week and $25 million ended up over $40 million. and you explain it to me. because i can't. my numbers went up. i don't understand it. nobody understands it. my numbers went up. >> joining us now, mark theissan, former chief speech writer for george w. bush.
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he's got a point, there. >> he's 100% right. a few weeks ago, everyone was talking about trump had 35% of electorate, but 55% went to someone else, until tonight he'd gotten 35% of the vote but tonight, florida he won with 46%. north carolina, $40, illinois, 40%. there is a new national poll out now that has him winning 53%, up nine points from a month ago, at 44%. so trump is expanding beyond that core place bais. people are saying okay, i can
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make peace with the idea. so he's growing his support. >> winning begets winning and people want to back a winner. and the more he focuses on hillary clinton, republicans say okay, i see him differently. i want to ask you about republicans say that i'm going third party. >> i'd like to see the path for a third party candidate to win. if a third party candidate runs and can't win, the only purpose it serves is a way for republicans to deny donald trump the presidency. >> the people who say this seem to know this and say it would be a conscious vote. >> unless there is a path to victory, you're essentially
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pulling for hillary clinton. and so this is a very, very tough situation for people. frankly, for people like me who have not exactly been enthusiastic about donald trump. there are people out there that have to start realizing have you to pick between lesser two of evils at some point. they may have to end up deciding whether donald trump or hillary clinton is the greater evil for the next four years. >> do you feel like, you describe yourself as conservative. do you feel like you can get behind him now? do you feel that happening for you? >> i said i'll jump off that bridge when i get to it. i'm not ready to jump yet. there is a long way to go. cruz has -- john kasich prevented, if donald trump came this close to putting this away. if he won both florida and ohio, it would have been over, basically and kasich stopped him, but kasich doesn't have a path to the nomination. there is no way he gets a 1237. ted cruz probably get 1237 but
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maybe combined they can keep donald trump from getting the convention. so i think we wait for the votes. if you get to the stanley cup final and you don't win, you don't win. donald trump hasn't won yet. >> what would change the dynamic of the race? so greatly, that in the states coming up including new york, new jersey, that ted cruz can surpass trump? he's going to have a hard time, which is why john kasich is staying in the race. so kasich has a chance to win or take some delegates in some of the states that are winners if they're not winner take all. it's a hard path at this point and going to get to a possibly, the only outcome is stopping him
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from getting 1237. >> say question for you, do you believe these predictions of the republican party dies if donald trump becomes the nominee? the party is never the same again? it's fractured? >> no. i don't believe that. i think the idea of a conservatism are going to survive and marco rubio did it well in his speech. he said we're in the middle of a tsunami. but they don't often last. so once the tsunami of trump has ridden across the land, if he doesn't get the presidency, someone will step up and rebuild. >> maybe it will be you. >> i like my job working with you, megyn. >> good one. >> thank you, mark.
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>> thank you. >> joining me now is charles hurt. great to see you. same question to you. do you believe the party will come behind the nominee? even if it is donald trump? >> i have to say that by looking at the speeches tonight, i don't have a lot you have hope this is going to happen. we have had the speech from john kasich and these people have to start giving some attention. the bizarre street from ted cruz
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and he won delegates. that is the reason he gave, going on to give a victory speech. that is very political to me he used remarks to attack donald trump and marco rubio is, it was gracious and sounded hopeful in places but the entire thing was underhanded, attacked by donald trump. there are under handed attacks. here is a question for you. both have been making rumblings in the past couple days they might not support donald trump.
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will it matter? do you think they'll follow through on that? >> i think that it is a risk. ted cruz said it's a one on one race now. no. it's not. john kasich isn't going anywhere. it will be interesting to see how many of the voters transfer over to kasich. i imagine some will go to trump and cruz. i expect they'll divide those easily. kasich stepped into rules to keep cruz, keeping rubio from taking on donald trump head to head. that has been the saving grace. >> a lot of people say this was the best kiss scenario but
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donald trump did well and has kasich still on the race. and you know, now, he's winning -- breaking the ceiling overhanging his numbers. >> it is one of the weird sin na narys and perhaps the best thing that happened tonight was kasich winning ohio. and it keeps opposition divided. >> it's like, the delegate number, and pro portional. >> i like the w. or the, you know, charlie, great to see you. >> thank you. >> what about the things charlie just mentioned? the ted cruz argument this is now just a two-man race?
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>> this election made clear this is effectively now a two person race and choice and we win and beat donald trump decisively.
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. senator ted cruz telling reporters he is convinced this is now a two-man race despite growing discussions of an outside candidate being brought in. rich, do you believe it's a two man race? >> mostly a two-man race but not quite yet. more of the two and a half and two and a quarter man race. potential upside here, if you're interested in stopping donald
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trump is maybe kasich can reach moderate voters up coming on the calendar that won't be available to ted cruz. but the down side is the cruz people want a two man, one on one race and it's not there yet. >> katrina, what do you think? do you feel this is over? . >> i think mr. trump is going to win and be the next president. i think this is a competition for second place. senator cruz wants a one on one, be careful what you wish for. >> ted, donald trump today at his presser referred to reporters as disgusting. and news broke on politico their reporter covered the campaign for six plus months, denied credentials to trump's event after the campaign threatened him last week, threatened to
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exclude him about the story about the campaign manager that was not flattering today, talking about his temperment and treatment of women. and tonight he was denied access. is this what we're going to see under the trump presidency if they write something negative about him? >> i haven't seen the report tonight, we've been busy winning. what you can expect is people being treated properly. if you have a reporter not really reporting but just doing bit pieces for no reason that is something we need to look at. we have a lot of reporter who's have just been glorified bloggers who aren't interested in covering the campaign or race, just out there, trying to start trouble. >> it happened with fusion, uni vision, and straight news reporter, you understand there is a first amendment, there is freedom of the press.
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you don't get to snuff that out when you're the president of the united states. right? does he understand that? >> he understand that's. i'll also say if anyone, unlike other candidates set foot into the spin room, mr. trump goes down every lane and talks to every reporter. it doesn't matter who you are, what campaign you're with. i saw the reporter speaking to mr. trump in one of the venues. it's not like these reporters get shut out. >> that is before he wrote the piece unflattering. rich? your thoughts? >> well, we have personal experience with this. we've been shut out as well, our reporters can't get credentialed for any trump event. trump had a good night. if this were anyone else who won this many contests there would be no question about that candidate being the nominee and the party rallying around him or her. but trump is polarizing as a front runner in any major party we have seen. exit polls show 30% or more say
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they consider voting for a third party candidate. >> do you believe that? would you consider that? >> we'd think about it. over and over again, we hear trump is going to be unifying and what did we see? his campaign manager man handling a female reporter and then, lying bit afterwards. we see trump saying he might consider paying legal fees of a goon who sucker punched a protestor at a rally. so that is why trump is winning these contests but not able to put it away. he's not going to put it away and we're not going to stand down until he gets 1237. he's not there yet. >> why would you pay the legal fees of that guy? >> first, megyn, the first was just an allegation being sorted through legally. >> it's not -- >> secondly, mr. trump says that he wants his supporters to defend themselves. again, we have seen --
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>> he sucker punched an african american. >> i understand, but what people don't see, on tv, you see them come in there and start punching. >> this guy didn't. this guy gave the finger, then got sucker punched. >> in this case, mr. trump was on stage and did not see what happened. so when he was asked a question, he said i don't know. i have to see what happened. >> why would you consider someone who punches someone out of the blue? and you know, the plurality of republicans. the idea that he didn't know is fantastical. >> i didn't say he didn't know. i said prior to the video. >> okay, okay. we might defend you if you punch
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people? >> if you defend yourself, big difference. >> this man was not defending himself. the man who sucker punched has been charged criminally. >> thank you. >> ahead, chris stire walt on the night's big news . >> together, we will make washington less relevant in all of our lives. with advil liqui-gels, you'll ask what body aches? what knee pain? what sore elbow? what joint pain? advil liqui-gels are so fast, they make pain a distant memory nothing works faster stronger or longer than advil liqui-gels the world's #1 choice what pain? advil.
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breaking tonight, more than 99% of the votes counted and we do not know the final results in missouri. joining us now is chris stire walt and howie kurtz. so what is going to happen in missouri? >> man, it is tight. tighter than a hungry tick on a blood hound. tighter than st. louis cardinals pitching rotation. >> i understand. >> exactly. the reason this matters is because delegates split in missouri. doesn't matter at this point. >> right. >> who cares? >> well, here is who cares. there are 15 extra bonus
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delegates handed out. >> secret bonus? >> right. right. >> there you go. >> so there are probably many people grumbling that marco rubio didn't say what he said in ohio. >> huge night for trump. very strong. is he unstoppable now? >> not unstoppableable. neither trump nor cruz are in a good position. >> trump needs to get 270 and he'll get 220, let's guess. so good night but he needs to start winning at 5%. that might happen. he may start winning boom, boom, boom and bet there. but what i'm saying is the structure that held at every
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point through this and trump, cruz and kasich, which i thought is mean. but that is if it is safe this way, yes. yes. >> howard, let me ask you about the conversation about the donald trump campaign not granting access to this reporter. can't have this. you can't bounce out the reporter if they he don't like the coverage. imagine if barack obama did that. >> trump doesn't need to start retaliating. >> it's trump. and you know, he's where he wants to unify the party and move ahead. and get the establishment behind
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for those of youdering what i mean by super tuesday, watch. >> have a great night. i'm megyn kelly. u%oining us on this special or midnight edition of "the five". donald trump scores victories in north carolina, illinois and florida. that is where he knocked out marco rubio and soon after, the senator from florida suspended his campaign. john kasich came with a with a victory in ohio. ted cruz shows no sign of slowing down. hillary clinton has so far beaten bernie sanders in oh,


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