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outside the visitor's center. these are live images east of the capitol, looking to the east face. this coming a day after a man pulled a pellet gun, triggering a lockdown of the police and the capitol. >> see you tomorrow morning. bill: a plane hijacked by a man who claimed to have a suicide belt. the man is under arrest. i'm bill hemmer. welcome to america's newsroom. >> this frightening information unfolding overnight. this egyptair flight was forced to land in cyprus. we don't know who the hijacker is or what his demands are. there are reports he was
demanding a release of prisoners in egypt. most of the passengers were taken off the plane fairly early in the ordeal. john, what do we know at this point? lots of different stories about this this morning. reporter: continued to unfold, it was a fluid story, fast moving. there was information that was accurate and some that was inaccurate. and it was coming from egyptian officials and officials in cyprus. the person in see you pruls said it was a personal situation and it wasn't terrorism. but later egyptian officials amended that saying the hijacker
was demanding the release of female prisoners in egypt. but questions remain about what his demands were. the guy was arrested and taken into custody. it's unclear if he gave up voluntarily or possibly he was overcome by the crew, passengers or both. but not long after it was announced the hijacking was over, we saw some people running out of the plane, climbing out the come fit window and dropping out of the plane. whether or not the hijacker had an explosive belt on also
remains unclear. that's what egyptian officials said. he decide manned that the plane reroute and go to istanbul. the captain according to officials said there wasn't enough fuel. there remains a lot of questions, a lot of details continue to come out, very fluid. now we are trying to get a clear picture piecing it all together. if this guy did have an explosive belt or some kind of device, serious questions about how he was able to get through security. that remains a question after the down of that russian jetliner. what exactly this guy wanted remains unclear. >> we'll be sorting out the details as will you over the next couple hours.
bill: last october a russian jetliner explode over the temperature peninsula. they band flights in and out of egypt from carrying cargo. a flight crashed shortly after take off from new york in 1999. cockpit voice recordings show a co-pilot was repeating a prayer before deliberately flying the plane into the ocean. the. martha: in 198560 people died
when egyptian troops tried to retake that plane by force, make it one of the deadliest hijackings in history. the. bill: now a hijacker is able to take down a plane with only a threat of a suicide belt. what are we to make of this story from egypt. >> we do know that egyptian airline plane was diverted. amid issues in the region with airport security. this used to be a cottage industry prior to 9/11 where any group would take a plane. after 9/11 passengers realized they need to be responsible for their own safety and passengers
and personnel could overtake these people whether it's mental health or terror. but in any event the plane was diverted and security had to deal with the issue. we tightened up airport cockpits and we are trying to get staff. what the airports are going to have to do is figure out any possible threat and how do you manage it. it's your personnel. it's how you get there. you are screening your personnel. and making sure we are putting as much technology in place to be secure. people on checkpoints get malaise, they get tired. bill: you can never be 100%.
he apparently allows these passengers to go free early on. >> the early indication is it wasn't terrorist related. they don't allow passengers to go, they want a body count. that made it different than some of the terrorist events. it's still troubling. there are times when the people say they have these devices and they just take over. we had a co-pilot to took custody of a plane when the pilot went to restroom and took it to a country for asylum. we have to look at the changing
threats and how they can do things to address changing threats. bill: jeh johnson, the director of homeland security, while this was ongoing, he was on msnbc and said this. >> from what we see right now, it does not appear to be terrorism connected. a very good question is whether there was an explosive belt and how it got through the screening at that particular airport. bill: if you find that evidence, you have got a very serious matter here. >> was this just somebody who had an issue and caused great distress for somebody, or did somebody get through enhanced security protocols in the region? if that's the case, huge problems and the entire airline industry has to look at how we fix it and address it very, very
quickly. bill: you can understand how that part of the world is. in paris and on and on. they are for lack of a better phrase getting used to seeing scenes like this. >> that may be why the passengers didn't treat him as somebody with a mental illness. recent eventsome people on edge that these explosive events are real. bill: thank you. daniel linsky from massachusetts. we don't know if there was a suicide belt or not. it was part of the report but unconfirmed. martha: the secure cockpit has prevented hijackings because nobody can get in there.
but if there is a suicide belt, it forces somebody to open that door. the threat of terror hanging over the presidential election with all of this going on in different parts of the world. republicans arguing we need a change of leadership to deal with it. >> the f.b.i. said they cannot vet these refugees to make sure they are not terrorists. but hillary clinton and the democratic party are so politically correct they insist on bringing them in anyway. martha: what is the focus of this election. does it become more and more about national security and which candidates might benefit. bill: the f.b.i. suddenly dropped its lawsuit over hacking into this terrorist iphone. martha: gunshots rang out near
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high alert after an armed man opened fire at visitors center. there was pandemonium in that room. suspect is in custody. he is charged with assault. police say the man was larry dawson. he pulled out a gun. capitol police are aware of dawson. he claims he's a prophet of god so he should be exempt from the law. bill: a disturbing sequence of events around the world. today's hijacking in egypt, theon going event in brussels and the terror attack in pakistan.
>> we have a commander-in-chief who is utterly unwilling to defend this country. instead he repeat politically correct talking points because he would rather lecture the people on islamophobia than utter the words "radical islamic terrorism." bill: former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. john bolton. good morning to you. very intriguing piece in the "new york times." it's long, it's detailed. the major point it make is the attacks in brussels were put in place years ago. >> we are focused on the massive flow of migrant out of the middle east all throughout europend the chaos it's causing.
but isis and the terrorist groups have been thinking of how to disrupt life in the u.s. for some time. it's not a question now getting more people into europe or the united states to conduct the terrorist attacks, those people are already there. bill: a man who was on his way to france out of syria, who was arrested said quote, it's a factory over there, meaning syria, they are doing everything to trike france and europe. >> it goes to the point why we have pursued such a laid back focus. the real place to defeat terrorism is where the training and indoctrination camps are and
we have not done that. bill: michael fine said this did not just pop up in the last couple months. they have been planning these attacks since 2012. >> they are treating it as the jv, not regard it as a serious threat. not to see the consequences in europe and the united states was a grave strategic mistake by the administration. i think people in the youth understand that the first -- i think people in the united states understand the first job of the president i to protect the country from foreign threats. it should be the centerpiece of the debate. it will be the trp piece of a referendum in britain on whether to least european union
entirely. bill: last point. americans fully appreciate the brussels attacks could happen in this country and sooner rather than later. people think that and feel it. >> they saw it in san bernardino. we foiled a lot of attacks, but i just hope we don't have another mass tragedy before people start to wake up. bill: who do you think is the head on that point? >> i think the democratic party is in lock step with barack obama. all the three remaining candidates on the republican side have pointed to terrorism but it remains to be seen who he merges and makes it into an issue. bill: do you see this party going in two different ways? it's almost a branch on a tree. because she has at least by word
bench more hawk i shall than him. >> if you read her book hard choices, all 600 grindingly tedious fangs you have to strain to find differences between her and barack obama. even the "new york times" said the other day after her major foreign policy speech that she embraced obama. that she wanted to appear for muscular without differentiating herself from the president. she is running for an obama third term. bill: much more coming up now with martha. martha: lot of drama as the scene plays out on an airport runway after a man take control of a plane and hold the passengers whose table. new details are emerging on what we are learning. bill: the republican candidates
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type of pellet gun, and we are told he did not have a conventional weapon. capitol police shot and wounded him. martha: a shot across the bow. bernie sanders encouraging hillary clinton's superdelegates to jump ship and support him instead after his crushing victory in three state. >> i think the momentum is with us. a lot of these superdelegates will rethink their position. in state where we win by 30 to 40 points. i think their own constituent will say why don't you support the people of our state. vote for sanders. martha: hillary clinton still hold a large delegate lead. but 450 of those are
superdelegates. hillary clinton had many of them, more than 300 locked up before the process even began. great to have you on the show this morning. this sort of brings back memories of last time around. president obama was the new guy on the scene at that time. hoik had a lot of those superdelegates locked up. in the end when the convention came they ended up moving over to them. >> the superdelegates don't vote until the convention. superdelegates are only 15% of the overall delegates up for grabs. who is going to decide the election? not the superdelegates. it will be the people going to the primaries and caucuses. we are confident the
superdelegate issue won't cloud the result we are sure will be clear by the time this primary season is over and we'll be able to come together at the convention the same way we did in 2008. the superdelegates casting their ballots at the convention, not before. martha: if you are saying they don't count until the convention, how come they are in the total we just showed. >> that's a media organization decision. 85% of the delegates are up for grabs. we are seeing strong opposition. it's good from the party perspective. we are seeing record numbers of contributions to our candidate. one of our candidate had more votes than donald trump throughout the course of this primary process. even though we had two
candidates versus 11, 8, 5 on the republican side that we continue to keep the turnout pretty close. we feel the dynamics are in our favor. if you see a former cia chief michael hayden coming out. and he would trust a democrat more than either of them. that speaks strongly to the dynamic we have in this race. martha: back to the delegate question. if you look at superdelegates. if you extract those, you have a much tighter race between these two candidate, don't you? >> we have proportional allocation of the delegates. it may stay close. but we see that as a positive because it keeps voters engaged in more states we are running a campaign, we are trying to
expand the map and reach out to voters all across. from the party's perspective we are building infrastructure in the state to tap into that and take momentum from primary caucuses. we see it as a positive thing that we continue to see voters engaged on both side for both of our candidate. and we have a positive dynamic. regardless of who wins, a poll that has shown our voters are supporting the other candidates, where you are not seeing that on the republican side. we'll continue to see voters turn out and they will determine who comes out as our nominee. but we feel good that it helps us in the long run in terms of the infrastructure and the ground game we are building across the country. martha: bernie sanders is hoping that will happen this time around, too. luis miranda, thank you very much.
bill: talk about the 180. the government dropped its case against am. so what changed and what is on the iphone of this terrorist from san bernardino, california. martha: will the republican nominee be picked at the ballot box or will it come down to the convention. it is getting very tight in very key states between donald trump and ted cruz. will terrorism and that discussion in the forefront of so many people's mind impact this election. bill o'reilly says there is only one choice to make. >> the dummies get led down the line. we don't know what we are doing. we have no leadership. a guy like ted cruz doesn't have a clue.
here this week. that was eric bolling donald trump was talking to last night. bill: the federal government withdrawing its request to apple to unlock a phone used by a terrorist in san bernardino. they were able to gain access to the phone and are reviewing the phone as evidence. what changed on this story? >> they got help from this so-called outside party as the f.b.i. put it which brought them a method to break into that phone that was left behind in the aftermath of the san bernardino terror attack by one of the shooters, syed farook. most experts believe the help came from a private sector company, including an individual who once worked in our own
intelligence services. but what did they find on the phone? the f.b.i. won't say at this point if the agent we spoke to yesterday said in a statement quote, i am satisfied that we have access to more answers than we did before, and that the investigative process is moving forward. now, the shoe have much on the other foot. the f.b.i. previously wanted help from apple. apple you have to assume wants help from the f.b.i. in knowing how they broke into that iphone. so it's a complete reverse of where we were. bill: how is apple reacting to it now. >> you have got to believe they are pleased the media court fight has gone away. but at the same time they have got to be worried about how ought government broke into this.
in a statement apple said, apple believes deeply people in the united states and around the world deserve dat protection, security, protection and privacy. sacrificing one for the other only puts people and countries at risk. the representative i spoke to said there are governments who want to break into our phones and governments that can do it. >> the u.s. government is not the only entity in the world that requires access. it's being leveraged by competitive organizations and criminal groups and terrorists alike. reporter: this has not ended the privacy versus security debate.
experts say at some point there will be a legal fight over this, and it's likely to end up at the supreme court. in the meantime we should not forget the victims of the san bernardino attacks. whatever the legal issues here, we hope they find some information on that phone. >> the delegates bound to done prr may become unbound to him so a third or fourth person house not even running could be nominated. >> the republican national committee as a private group has a right to set rules regarding binding and not binding. let me finish. >> they own the rules. would you be against them changing the rules at the convention. >> let me finish if you don't mind. they have that right but they
traditionally left it in the hands of the states through state law or party rules to set the standards. martha: that's karl rove addressing the power of the republican national committee and whether there would be any consideration to changing rules in a contested convention. could those rules be worked to wrestle the ma'am nation away d -- wrestle the nomination away from somebody. joining me is karl rove, former white house deputy chief of staff to george w. bush and fox news contributor. i would assume if anybody, donald trump is the closest at this point, gets to 1,237. that that person will be the nominee. do you have any equitable with that? >> i think it depends on how
close he gets to 1,237. martha: if he has 1,237 or is over it. >> no, he becomes the nominee. the republican party has a rule, if you get a majority of delegates you are the nominee. if you don't get a majority you keep voting until somebody does. martha: is there any discussion to change the,237 -- change the 1,237 rule. >> oh, no. there was a rule passed self conventions ago to limit the number of people who got a formal nominating speech. you can vote for whoever you want to vote for. but the question was when we had such a limited amount of prime time evening news did you wanted somebody who had 20 delegates out of 2,500 to have a nomination speech.
do they loosen that so more people have a chance to be formally placed in nomination who would otherwise be voted on. but you give them a chance to have their piece in prime time. there are lots of -- as you saw last night. there are lots of pair need theories out there. something will be done to steal the nomination. the rules are in place, and we should be making substantive changes to the rules as we get to this convention itself. martha: in the early stables of most conventions there are thing that go on that nobody pays attention to. it's just the way thing are. and approving the rules of the convention. you don't expect there will be any change in that. >> in the past you are right. there were test votes where you would pick some innocuous matter to divide the convention.
you would say our side is going to vote this way and the other side vote against it. but we are long past that. the rules have been in place for the past four years and they will be in place by the time we get to cleveland and june the contest. martha: here is the head-to-head. trump 4%. look at the favorable, unfavorable. donald trump at 65% unfavorable. that number has risen actually in self of the polls that we took a look at this morning over the past month or so. thoughts on those two. >> it shows there is a difference -- donald trump can say and do thing that don't hurt him in the republican primary that do hurt him with the national voters.
he's at 42%, and if he gets 2 df he gets 42%, he's likely to get to the 1,237. he can get away with saying he can shoot somebody on fifth avenue and not suffer. but his numbers are rising. hillary clinton's are 53% unfavorable and his are worse at 61%, 62%. martha: karl, thank you. always good to see you, sir. bill: governor scott walker is about to make an endorsement in wisconsin. ted cruz is making a big push for that endorsement. >> we have been trapped in stagnation. trapped people out of work.
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>> i'm a big, big fan of scott walker. he's a terrific governor and a strong conservative and he led this state and is very, very effective. of course, i would welcome scott walker's support. bill: in 20 minute we should get the endorsement from wisconsin governor scott walker. senator, welcome back to our program here. the badger state is now in the spotlight. have you spoken with scott walker recently? >> within the last couple weeks
but not the last couple days. bill: do you know what he's going to do? >> no, you will be break that news, not me. bill: as we await on that and you think endorsements, have they mattered much? a lot of governors endorse a candidate and the candidates lost that state. >> i tend to be neutral. i don't be doing any endorsement. i tend to support the republican nominee. bill: you will stay neutral i guess until cleveland. >> that would be my intention unless something changes. we'll see how this process plays out. nobody can predict it. we have a number of months to play out. bill: this is what donald trump said about scott walker.
no way he would ever endorse me from donald trump. do you like the way donald trump is running his campaign. >> i like to accentuate the positive. i want to push what our party stands for which is economic growth and opportunity. which is the solution for so many problems. i wish candidates would focus on a positive message of prosperity and opportunity. i like ronald reagan's 11th commandment, speak no ill of republican candidates. bill: in wisconsin -- >> it's an aspirational goal. bill: is it like illinois? what is driving it. >> security. jobs security, can?
security, restiermt security within healthcare security. i think wisconsinites realize maybe america voted for hope and change in 2008, and it's not the change they were looking for and it hasn't provided them security. republicans' message ought to be what to do to get our economy growing. we have to rediewts regulatory burden. we need competitive tax system. if we do that, we can take advantage of the fact we are the world's largest economy. manufacturers wants to be close to the largest customers. we have an enormous economic advantage. but because of big government with crushing regulations i could throw in not a particularly good legal environment, we have a number of self-inflicted wounds. we need a person of integrity. intelligence, ideas and courage
to face some of these enormous challenges. >> do you like your option cruz, kasich or trump? >> i go to bed every night praying for a person of integrity, intelligence, ideas and courage. we'll see how it plays out. bill: one week from today. thank you, sir. reporter martha: one american survivor of the brussels attacks, one of many people counting their blessings. he's speak out. >> i night was a bomb. i knew it was terrorism, and then when the second won, i thought oh, man, are they going to blow up this whole airport?
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martha: investigators feverishly working to identify one of the bombers. police had a man in custody but they released him for lack of evidence. they are still searching for the third attacker. the man you see on your screen in the hat. where does the investigation stand at this point, gregg? reporter: it was this time yesterday morning we showed your viewers that new airport surveillance video of the bombers. didn't know why they were putting it out at the time. it turns out they got the wrong man. they had to release him, and they are picking up the hunt again for the fugitive, the fellow in the hat, the white jacket. they are look for him across this city, across this continent. police do have one new lead.
two black gloves with explosive traces were found on the bus that left the airport after the attack. they might have bern worn by the bombers. the fugitive may have used the bus to get away and left them behind. 55 people, 55 victims still in intensive care, still in critical condition. along with the 4 americans dead, 12 americans were injured, one has been flown back to the states for treatment. those were horrible, horrible injuries, martha. bill: this man in florida lucky to be alive. he was walking to his departure gate and here is what he says he will never forget from that date. >> what i will always choose to think about is what people did after. and how they helped. not what happened and why it
happened, that's just hate. it's the love of the people helping each other you want to focus on.uries to his legs. four americans killed in that attack. martha: i refuse to remember the hate from that moment. he says after that he saw people helping each other all around him. there is thatter side of what happens in these horrific instances. owe fictions saying a tense situation is over. but a man hijacks an airplane full of passengers claiming he had explosives on him. robert o'neill shares his concerns for security for everybody.
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to supporters in brookfield, wisconsin, one week before voters head to the polls in that state. welcome, everybody. brand new hour now of "america's newsroom." i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer. good morning. donald trump and john kasich holding events around that state today. polls show a statistical tie between trump and senator cruz. and one of those candidates could get a big boost. wisconsin governor scott walker who himself was a candidate until september will make an endorsement any moment now. while there has been a strong effort to push this race in a new direction, it has been rather tense out there. >> i have no interest in going down in the mud with donald trump. i will stay focused where voters and where americans are focused which is how we turn our country around and how we bring back jobs and opportunity to this country. >> ted is a very concerned puppy. he is losing big. i have hundreds of delegates more than him. i have millions of votes more than him.
the system is a strange system. some people would say it is not a very honest system. martha: yes. that is taste of what it is like right now. chief political correspondent carl cameron is live in janesville, wisconsin, with a look at that race this morning. hey, carl. reporter: hi, martha. we're in janesville where donald trump will hold a rally at 4:00 this afternoon in the hometown of paul ryan, the house speaker. folks you see over my shoulder will have been at least in line for nine hours in some cases. it will get a lot bigger as the afternoon wears on here and we get ready for trump event. donald trump is in big battle in this state against ted cruz. ted cruz is playing to win here. lots of ads. lots of phone banking. lots of canvasing. a matter of four or five minutes from now, charlie sykes, one of the popular conservative radio hosts will be interviewing scott walker the governor. at w tmj radio here in wisconsin. very, very influential guy. he interviewed trump yesterday.
mr. sykes is anybody but trump candidate. he does not like the man. interviewed him yesterday. trump didn't know that. it was testy interview. just a matter of moments scott walker is expected to endorse ted cruz. that is a significant bounce for cruz. he wants to win this. it could be considered a turning point. this is a state winner take you will but quirky 18 delegates are awarded to winner statewide but remaining 24 delegates are divided up between the congressional districts. whoever wins the congressional districts gets three delegates per district. ted cruz is looking not only to win statewide but add to the total of congressional delegates and that takes organization. trump last night had demonstration here at hotel. there were some 60 protesters, and another dozen outside that were asked to leave after about an hour of chanting. this is professionally organized demonstration by ground game madison which is an organizing
organization as well as one, that says show up for racial justice. six of the protesters refused to hospital, excuse me the hotel. they were arrested. they had put themselves together with some sort of a polyurethane tube around their wrists. made it impossible for them to be sort of separated. they had to be arrested and taken in. the group has said to people here in janesville, that they would like to see tonight, the biggest demonstration in janesville history. which is not good news forum donald trump or campaign. that is the kind of thing that sets up a very, very negative tone, one trump had hoped when he took last week off might subside a little bit. doesn't look like that will play out here later this afternoon, martha. for ted cruz who is about to have an event in a few moments, the endorsement of scott walker will be a big triumph and help a lot. martha: we'll see if it makes a difference. we've seen governor endorse means that haven't made a difference but we'll see. carl, thank you very much.
bill: intense matter ending without bloodshed after a hijacker diverts a jetliner packed with passengers from egypt to cyprus. that hijacker claiming to be armed with explosives, allowing most of the passengers to leave early on. the suspect made several demands with four crewmembers and three passengers still on board. he finally surrenders minutes after local tv shows several people getting off the plane, including one who appears to be a crew member, on the left side of your screen, climbing out of the cockpit window and sliding down the side of that plane to safety. john huddy is life in our middle east bureau picks it up from there. what is the latest now, john? reporter: well, bill, egypt's civil aviation ministry is now saying that the quote, unquote, explosive belt this guy side that he was wearing has in actuality turned out to be a fake. the hijacker who is now described as egyptian national, said that he was wearing this suicide belt, explosive belt.
according to officials, demanded that the flight be rerouted from alexandria, and cairo, instead be rerouted to istanbul. the flight as we know landed in cyprus where most of the passengers, as you said, bill, were initially let off but seven people remained on board during this dramatic and tense situation until we saw, again we've been showing video as you mentioned, bill, we saw people running from the plane. saw one of the crewmembers dramatically climbing out of the cockpit window, scaling down the side of the plane, nose of the plane and dropping on to the tarmac and eventually running away to waiting police. others seemingly calmly walking away from the plane, presumably once the guy was taken into custody, but bill, we still don't have a good handle the who, what, how and the why. who this guy specifically is. remember he was misidentified in the beginning when all this was unfolding, kind of bizarrely
said to be a university professor veterinarian medicine. that turned out to be inaccurate. to be fair to the media that was actually coming from egyptian officials. we don't really have a why, why specifically he lie -- hijacked the plane. initially the president of cyprus said it may have been a personal issue involving a ex-wife. egyptian officials said that the guy demanded that female prisoners in egypt be freed. how exactly he was able to get on board the flight if he was wearing this fake suicide belt or explosive belt as he went through security. that raising questions about egypt's airline security, bill. bill: point to be made, that belt, whatever he claimed it to be was explosive-free. thank god. john huddy from middle east bureau. martha: as john points out there are many questions about the motivation of this person and what really happened here. for more on this rob o'neill
joins us, former navy seal and who killed usama bin laden on that fame must navy seal raid. >> good morning, martha. thanks for having me. martha: it raises a lot of questions. we don't know the nature of this situation. a lot remains to be seen. if a fake belt, if that what it was, force an airline to land in a different location we're in a difficult situation. >> this is a very difficult situation. the same thing happened on 9/11 too when they obviously hijacked planes with box cutters. they also had, they brought in clay that looked like suicide belts. just the threat of a belt, you know, if you get that through, it is issue. this is part of the problem with the way we're screening right now. right now one of the issues that i have seen personally, especially flying internationally the screeners are not looking for what is not supposed to be there, they're look -- looking for water bottles. they're looking for sunscreen and lotion over three ounces, all that kind of stuff.
we need to be protrayaling as far as criminal intent, trying to find crazy people. this is obviously a crazy person. apparently he was upset about his ex-wife. i guess she was from cyprus. where they landed, a lunatic that shouldn't be on the plane in the first place. the problem we're having making sure someone a fake hip isn't getting on the plane. martha: as you said we're way too pc the way we go about this. watching stuff going down the belt, looking for shampoo bottles and we've seen in test cases where they have tried to test the system and they have gotten through with guns and knives. >> of course. they get in over 90% of the time they get through with even stuff -- screeners are, again a lot of that is just an experiment as well. who can we hire to put in the spot to get the job because, based on who they are. they're, they're not like el al airlines where they are screening people from before even the time they checked the luggage, you know.
we even saw the other day in brussels. they hit -- next time they hit, they love the airports they will hit a baggage claim next. nobody will get on the plane with this stuff. screeners, they're looking for under three ounces. martha: that's a great point because brussels taught us that, that they have moved, they move the operation into the area where anybody could walk in. >> they're going to congregate. american airlines, starbucks, metro, things like that. right now they're smarter than we are. we are reactionary. we have people like 90-year-old women taking off shoes, because of richard reid the failed shoe-bomber. it is ridiculous. martha: rob, you're so right. thank you very much. good to see you as always. bill: at the moment we take you back to 1984 in politics. >> it is morning again in america. today more men and women will go to work than ever before in our country's history. with interest rates at about half the record highs of 1980. bill: so whatever happened to
morning in america you ask yourself today? my next guest says and argues the 2016 campaign is more like a dark and stormy night. martha: hard to argue with that, right? new reports that a team of 150 fbi agents are at least taking some part or some role in the hillary clinton investigation. that is a lot of folks. so what are they going to find? plus this. >> hold on. stay with me. come on. bill: so that was the scene and today we have new information on shooting in capitol hill. the suspect, what he had on him and what he wanted. >> they side, hide down here behind this wall. and so, i was like five of us behind this wall. then i heard two shots or, i don't know it was like a boom, boom sound off to my left. you're late for work.
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there is going to be a big momentum play depends who does win and who does not win. more across the room from martha. martha: for more, howard kurtz, fox news media analyst and host of "media buzz." howie, welcome. good to have you here this morning. we've been talking about this and bill mentioned it as well, the only governor endorsement i think worked john kasich who didn't need to endorse himself but he certainly would have if he could have. many of them have fallen flat so good news, bad news? >> media love endorsements. most voters don't care. this is another establishment after republican figure closing ranks against donald trump by taking ted cruz sort of the last man standing. scott walker as we'll call went nowhere fast in the presidential campaign himself. doesn't hurt. like chicken soup. doesn't do much to shake up the race in wisconsin. martha: you wrote a piece this morning, just focusing on the vitriol that we have seen in this race. and here's a little example of that back and forth between cruz and trump. let's watch.
>> i don't get angry often but you mess with my wife, you mess with my kids, that will do it every time. donald, you're a sniveling coward, leave heidi the hell alone. >> you-hear this guy? i'm the only one, i beat him five times! wait a minute, i beat him 20 times. what is going on? lie inch ted, he is lyin' ted. martha: unbelievable. >> don't mess with me, martha. martha: is this anything new? when you look back over course of campaigns they have always gotten pretty nasty at one point or another. >> campaigns have gotten nasty. if ronald reagan's campaign was morning in america, that is the theme, we're in the middle after political hate fest. easy for us in the news business to blame it on the candidates because trump and cruz are going after it over wives, nude pictures, alleged mistresses all of that, but the media contribute to this too. every time i look at op-ed page or web site or cable news any period of time when was last time you heard anybody write or say something positive about the
one of the candidates? it seems to be reflecting maybe the snarky and mean-spirited tone of the twitter age culture but seems almost to be all negative now. martha: look at what rich lowery says about john kasich because it seems like he is one making effort to play that role. >> nice guy above the fray. martha: governor kasich is on the trail, running delusional vanity project masquerading as presidential campaign. there is no appetite for can't we all get along campaign among republican primary voters who made that abundantly clear. he is saying the person making that argument is getting no traction at all. rich lowery wants him out for other reasons. have at it. >> if john kasich is getting beat up tells but the atmosphere. hillary clinton piled on calling trump, cruz, republicans extremists not supporting vote on president obama's supreme court nominee. she has gotten a lot of individual reoliver way. she should be in jail, she is deceitful.
she is annoying you have seen and heard this all. i'm not saying can't we all get along. candidates are supposed to be tough. to find out candidate take withering criticism and can they take it? there is sour mood in the country, but kasich may be trying it, running more optimistic reagan-like campaign, they're tearing it down. for clicks and ratings there is almost virus in the water where there is no heroes. everybody is being torn down. on some level that can't be good for country. martha: remains to be soon if it turns off voters because we've seen very big turnout in the primaries. seems people are more engaged in this election than some time. maybe that is bringing people in. >> more engaged, average people, i talk to, political junkies, ratings for debates are up. crowds, sanders and trump are drawing. that is all good. could say motivated by anger frustration in washington.
parties are out of touch with the concerns of working class americans, but, if it is like, it is like if burger king and mcdonald's were all running ads all the time tearing each other down, you might not be in the mood for hamburger. seems that is dominating and programs overshadowing constructive talk what we will do in this country about taxes and health care, fighting terrorism. martha: howie, we will see. thank you very much. good to have you here. >> thank you. bill: remember in the end under the rules of battle for delegates. in the road to majority of delegates for donald trump getting longer by the week now. if he does not get there, 1237 what happens at the convention? ♪ uh oh. oh. henry! oh my. good, you're good. back, back, back. (vo) according to kelley blue book,
way conservatives thought this decision could go. there is split 4-4 on conservative legal challenge to union fees. this is big win for unions. this is the first major decision that is likely impacted by the loss of justice scalia's vote. prior to scalia's death unions were dreading this opinion knowing that they would likely suffer massive loss here, losing ability to force people who didn't want to join the union to pay the union fees anyway. so this is a tie decision, 4-4. as we know, in this new supreme court scenario, when there is a split like that the decision falls back to the prior appellate regional court decision and that is what has happened in this case. more coming up on that in a little while from shannon bream. bill: decision coming today, martha, you think about scott walker of wisconsin endorsing ted cruz. wisconsin is the centerpiece of a union battle in the country going back several years. want to bring in dr. larry
sabato, director of center for politics, university of begin yaw. how are you, sir. >> great, bill. bill: great to have you back on the problem. let me paint a broad brush with april. we have in kind of a lull for the primary season, right? we have wisconsin with 42 dell goods. couple days after that you have wyoming, not to diminish wyoming. you will have a two-week lull, doctor, between the 5th of april and 19th of april which is when new york goes. toward the end of the month you get to the 26th and all five states in the northeast. connecticut and rhode island, delaware, and the state of pennsylvania but let's take wisconsin first of all, just think about a victory there for cruz and what it does for him as opposed to perhaps you could argue, a victory for trump, even by a point. you think about the momentum game at play for next two weeks leading up to new york. start there.
>> wisconsin will give either trump or cruz, or maybe kasich, bragging rights, and that matters, as you mentioned because we do have this unusual lull. we've had a lull until wisconsin. we'll have another lull until new york. and those things matter because a momentum gain for your side energizes your troops, makes them work harder. maybe they skip going to the movie and go door-to-door canvasing instead. so, it makes a difference and i think that is really the advantage of wisconsin. trump needs to do well in remaining primaries to get imagine schnick number of 1237. he will have far more delegates than ted cruz or anybody else. he needs to do well in virtually all the remaining primaries to get to that point. bill: if you do the math, i know you have, there is the delegate count what happened.
trump at 739, cruz at 469. the magic number is 1237. if you look at map with states favorable or unfavorable to these gentlemen coming in months, if trump wins whiz he is on the path to get to 1237. do you agree with that? >> i do agree with that. he is not on a path to get a whole lot more than 1237. bill: right at number. >> to exceed it, yes. bill: wisconsin, what are issues? we talked to ron johnson he talked about security, but not just personal security but economic security but down the line. what do you see in this state? >> on one hand you would think that the kind of electorate in wisconsin would tend to favor trump, not as much as some of the other states where he has done very well but enough for a narrow victory. but, with governor walker's endorsement of ted cruz, and the fact that i think the republican establishment is now focused on wisconsin as the place to turn
things around, to stop trump this could be a very close, competitive race. bill: here's your "real clear politics" average then. trump at 32. cruz a tick above 30. kasich half of that at 16%. some polls put cruz ahead. what do you see? >> well, as i said, coming into it, trump had an edge but i think some of that edge is dissipated. so, we'll see what governor walker can actually do for cruz. you know endorsements are of two types. some are a paper endorsement or maybe make an appearance and in other cases someone really stumps for the candidate that he or she is endorsing. so let's see what governor walker does as follow-up. he has got a week to produce for cruz. bill: hmmm. just one final point here. there is a lot of political articles now being written about what each team is doing to
secure the delegates and lock in their loyalty for cleveland in july. and there is a piece out today that shows ben carson up in north dakota working for donald trump. and also in that same article talks about ted cruz, who lost badly down here in georgia and alabama and south carolina, working on those delegates to get them to his side. what do you see moving there, sir? >> the name of the game is delegates. yes, the primary returns are interesting and we follow them avidly but you have to have delegates. in trump's case, bill, if he does not get to 1237 on the first ballot my view he will never get there. because on the second ballot you've got a lot of double agent delegates who have been placed there by state and local party leaders who are not really for trump, who will be pledged to vote for him for one ballot, come the second ballot, scram,
they're with somebody else. bill: kind of fits theme where he says government not working for you, working against you. he talked that way for some time. we may hear more of that later tonight. larry sabato, let's talk in a week, how about that. >> sounds good to me, bill. bill: thank you very much. >> you can definitely feel the trump machine in action as they are trying to get up to speed on this delegate game as you guys were talking about. you have the news out of wisconsin this morning it fuels to some extent the never trump movement when scott walker joins the team on the ted cruz side as he picks up that endorsement. what difference will it make in wisconsin? that will be the big question next tuesday. bill: a bit of chaos on capitol hill. a man pulls out a weapon at a security check point. we have information what that was and stay tuned as well. listen. >> we were going through the visitor center security. as i walked through we heard get out, get out there is active shooter. most stressful experience i ever
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bill: again the news we mentioned a moment ago. word from the u.s. supreme court. a split decision 4-4 on conservative legal challenge to union fees in america. that is a big win for unions and it is also the first major decision likely impacted by the loss of justice scalia and the loss of his vote. the supreme court split decision leaves intact union's power to charge fees to non-union members. shannon bream is working story. we'll get to shannon in a moment live in d.c. stand on by there. martha: in other breaking news this morning we have an endorsement to tell you about. scott walker has endorsed ted cruz as that rally is about to get started in brookfield, wisconsin. he did it, there is carly fiorina, who has been very active on the campaign trail for ted cruz. she is trying to help him become
the candidate and she has been pretty forceful in that. she is doing a warm-up for the crowd. scott walker was on radio show earlier, and he is expected to be there as well. ted cruz hopes he will get a nice boost from that. >> after a lot of thought, a lot of time, a lot of prayer about this, just really decided after all these years of the obama-clinton failures that it is time we elect a strong new leader. i have chosen to endorse ted cruz to be the next president of the united states. martha: ed henry joins us live from milwaukee where he is watching this story from both sides of the scott walker fence. so first let's do the republican side. does this endorsement mean a lot with folks in wisconsin? reporter: well, obviously he is a governor who has been through a lot in terms of recalls and fights with unions. obviously ted cruz campaign will believe he is somebody who has been a fighter and help him here on the ground. what is fast senating as i cover democratic side of the race and
watching in wisconsin for last couple days scott walker keeps popping up at bernie sanders rallies. sanders is invoking the name of the governor and saying he is the most anti-union governor in the estimation of sanders and using that to try to rally his troops on the left to come out and vote for sanders. you have someone in scott walker who has been out of this race for months now and yet now as we come to this critical battleground of wisconsin, he is playing on both sides, you know, ted cruz trying to use this governor to get-out-the-vote and stop donald trump while on the left bernie sanders is saying look, i'm better than hillary clinton in terms of fighting for unions, fighting for progressive values. scott walker has been on other side of a lot of those issues. he is invoking the governor. we see him playing both sides of it, martha. martha: so interesting to watch. everybody is looking at carly fiorina on other side of the screen as we await scott walker and ted cruz here in brookfield, wisconsin. ed, bernie sanders is playing
the same kind of delegate game that ted cruz is doing in terms of trying to improve that game. >> you're right. martha: and the clinton campaign just seems to be trying to project as much confidence as they possibly can but are they worried about that? >> they're concerned, you know what they're doing as well, you're right, they're trying to project confidence and run out the clock. probably what donald trump is trying to do on republican side as well since he has a lead and he hasn't put it away. clinton hasn't put it away. after wisconsin it will be new york on both sides. you have 300 delegates at stake. sanders is doing a new play. demanding a debate in new york. you would think if it is her home turf of hillary clinton, she would accept. her top strategist said we will not debate in new york until bernie sanders changes his tone. they're upset, a, the race is not over yet but. about, sanders continues to attack clinton on wall street
contributions and speeches on all of that tad devine, chief strategist for sand earns this, is clinton's home turf, she should welcome debate. if you're front-runner you don't want anymore debates or mistakes. martha: a lot of front-runners in this race. bernie sanders feels like he is in home turf even though he is in vermont a long time. he wants to get 40% to prove he is credible in the state of new york. clinton's campaign want to prevent him from doing that. good stuff. ed, thank you very very much. reporter: good to see you. bill: fox news alert. pakistan said to be stepping up efforts to fight islamic militants in the wake of that devastating easter sunday bombing that killed more than 70, many of them christians, including at least 29 children. general yak jack keane, retired four-star general, chairman of institute of study of war and fox news military analyst. what is the name of this group and why have they become so lethal so quickly? >> well, they're an offshoot of the pakistani taliban who have
always been deadly in a significant terrorist organization for years. jamat el ara is name of this group. this is part of a radical islamic campaign that runs across the middle east and africa and south asia to eliminate christians and jews from muslim lands and largely succeeding, sadly, because the christian and jewish population that exists in arab-muslim lands is going down dramatically as a result of these terrorist attacks. also, let's make no mistake about it. these radical islamic terrorist organizations kill far more muslims than they do christians and jews. even in this attack there were more muslims killed than christians. bill: it has been a devastating week. you think about brussels and this and on and on. radical islam, is it war with the western civilization in the world today? now who is filling that void to respond in the arab world or in
the european capitals or here at home? anyone? >> well, i think the effort that we have made has been halfhearted. frankly, what we dealt with, yes. radical islamists are dead serious they are at war with western civilization. their frequency of attacks are expanding. the countries that they're in are increasing. the attacks are becoming more deadly. the investigative project on terrorism that uses university of maryland database has just release ad stunning report that says since 2010, when we were averaging over 3,000 terrorist deaths to innocents a year, the deaths as a result of terrorist attacks is now a staggering 30,000. bill: wow. >> what has happened, bill, our strategy to take these on one at a time, al qaeda first, some success, isis eventually some success is not enough.
we need a comprehensive strategy with other countries to come together to undermine this political religious ideology. until we get our arms and you the scale of this and countries concerned about global jihad, we'll continue to see staggering number i gave you increase. it has doubled in last two years. bill: arab leaders want u.s. leadership. europeans want it as well. i think you believe that. i will leave you with this one comment from the belgian federal prosecutor. they regathered, they reorganized, they did paris and they did brussels and they will do it again. general, sorry to cut you off now. got breaking news. it is busy morning as you understand. jack keane, thank you. >> sure bill. martha: breaking news of trump campaign announcing a new member of the team that is getting a bit of attention this morning. what the new hire may tell us about the future of this campaign.
martha: have an interesting development in the trump campaign this morning. they have just announced they are hiring an old gop hand for the convention manager and boy this may be some convention to manage it looks like. it will be paul manifort. his experience spans three decades working on presidential campaigns including convention managing of gerald ford, ronald reagan, george h.w. bush as well as bob dole. let's bring in our panel to jump off with the new piece of information. ashley pratte and brad woodhouse. welcome to you both. good to see you this morning. >> morning.
>> ashley, this convention could be a fight and looks like donald trump just put a fairly forceful person on his side. >> he did but this is something, martha, that i think a lot of strategists have been saying he should have done about eight months ago. he should have been really focusing what this would look like because the establishment is not going to let him take the nomination easily. that has been very clear by strategists, by gop elites who come out and said he will not be our nominee essentially. they will push ted cruz as far as they can to contested convention. so i do think this might be a little too late but he is a very forceful player when it comes to this and i don't think trump's persuasive powers can be denied at contested convention. i think after louisiana and hearing threats of trump wanting to sue cruz for delegates swinging this way, this is why something like this has now happened. martha: brad, taking a look across the fence for a moment here, there has been a lot of sort of game changing and shifting it appears going on in
the trump campaign to try to get up to speed on this delegate issue because it looks like they thought they were going to get to 1237 with no problem. now perhaps they are a little bit concerned about making it through the first round? >> well i think that's right and i think that's why this is really smart move. color me impressed that you know, people have said that donald trump is running unconvention aol campaign out in america. i think he will continue to do that, big rallies, a lot of earned media but he does recognize there are rules and rules to the convention, there are rules to the balloting at the convention for delegates. think this is a smart move. i think if he had done it earlier he may have been accused being part of the establishment so probably good to do it now. martha: hold on a minute. ted cruz is out in brookfield, wisconsin, after getting an endorsement from scott walker. let's watch for a second. [applause] >> let me tell you i am humbled to be in presence of patriots who we are all fighting for this
country we love so much. [applause] and the courage, the principle that was demonstrated and is demonstrated every day by scott walker, by the men and women of wisconsin, we need that courage, we need that principle in washington, d.c., taking on the special interests. [applause] and i'm honored to be with patriots like senator dewey strobel fighting for the men and women of wisconsin each and every day. martha: we'll take you back. keep an eye on that. we'll take you back there during the endorsement -- we'll keep an eye on it. let me go back to ashley and jump back in this on the democratic side for a moment because a lot of discussion about the story that came out yesterday in great detail, sort of tracing the initial days of hillary clinton's blackberry use
at the state department and she was told right off the bat that they weren't even allowed those devices in the mahogany row area of the state department because they had been hacked so many times. new developments and talk that there is as many as 147, 150 agents on this case. >> not true. martha: well, get to that. >> that is something that is debatable here. regardless how many agents there are on the case the fact there is a case, right? i think that is what so important here. her poll numbers taken a hit when it comes to her untrust wore thinkness. matchup in the primary was not expecting. she was expected to be coronated at as democratic nominee. guess what, bernie sanders has given her a run for her money. that is because people can't trust her. young people don't like her. she is not progressive enough for them. she has uphill battle to climb before she secures the nomination she believes she will. the math is in her favor. at same time she should be very
scared. momentum is not on her side. as this ramps up i believe this investigation will play very largely into this. martha: some people have said, including ron forney, there should be a higher bar for the investigation because she's running for president which strikes a lot of people as very odd. doesn't that strike you as odd, brad, a higher bar? >> it does strike me as odd. i mean what ron fornash want and conservatives want, hillary clinton they want her to be treated differently than half of the republican rivals out of the race who use private email. jeb bush use private email. martha: that is completely -- >> hold on let me finish. you asked me a question. it is not higher bar. it is double-standard. secretary powell used personnal email. martha: no, brad -- talking about something that is irrelevant. the question that is being investigated is whether or not
she allowed classified information to become vulnerable. it is very specific investigation. it is did the use of cutting and pasting material and putting it into emails that were passing through a server at her house, whether or not it made that information vulnerable. it is not a question of just using blackberry itself. >> she put our national security at risk, brad. >> hold on a minute. hold on a minute. i can deny that. where is your evidence, ashley, where is your evidence -- >> that she had a private email server. we discovered that. >> that she put anything at risk. martha: that is the question. >> we've seen reports it has been documented that she was hacked in that private email. >> hence why there is ongoing investigation. martha: ashley, hold on. >> usual assertion she somehow put na is -- martha: i'm up against a hard break. we'll pick this up. this is not going away. we are at the breaking news desk. bill: u.s. supreme court, 30 minutes ago, a major union on
show me "previously watched." what's recommended for me. x1 makes it easy to find what you love. call or go online and switch to x1. only with xfinity. >> i'm jon scott. coming up on "happening now," one week until the big primary race. wisconsin takes center stage as all candidates make stops there today. we will have very latest on the race for the white house. plus the manhunt and search for the man in the hat continues in europe as the extent of warnings and red flag both france and belgium had becomes clear. why were warning signs ignored for so long? we'll get into it, "happening now." bill: thanks. jon, thank you. see you in six minutes. u.s. supreme court split 4-4 on a legal challenge on union fees. that's a big win for the unions.
first major decision likely impacted by the loss of justice scalia's vote. reverts back to earlier court. shannon bream is on that today in washington. good morning. reporter: good morning, bill, this is what it looks like when you get one of the opinions, barely a sentence or two, basically court was deadlocked 4-4. we don't know how anybody voted. we can guess on the case essentially they're saying we wash our hands of this. lower court decision stays in place. it was favorable to the unions. a group of teachers, public school teachers in california had challenged having to pay some form of agency fee to the union. they said we don't want to be represented by you. we don't like what you do politically. we don't want to give you a dime, should we be forced to do that. they argued first amendment and speech rights they shouldn't have at that to after the case was argued last fall, our best guess it was possibly going to be a 5-4 decision with justice scalia deciding with more conservative members of the court against the unions t would
have a broad impact, taking away ability for many public sector unions to support them financially even if they didn't feel could idealogically or any other way. so we have waited to see what the court would do. this is first big case with the missing vote of justice scalia could have tie impact. this is possibly a search things to come. there are other things they were wrestling with they heard before his death on affirmative action. that is the next big one to watch for to get another tie. big win for unions. bill: not to make it too simple. means the unions can charge non-union members dues, right? >> yeah. essentially, if you're represented by that union you have to pay in whether you want to or not. bill: wow. shannon, thank you, more fallout to come. shannon bream on breaking news in washington. thanks. martha: frightening scene this morning overseas. how did a man hijack a plane and hold the crew and passengers hostage for house? what does it mean for airplane security here at home?
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pelicans when kid runs out right up to carmelo anthony and gives him a hug. he laughed it off. how cute. that all ended well. we will see you tomorrow, have a great day everybody. bye-bye. give someone a hug.jon: a fox news alert on the dramatic conclusion to an airline hijacking after an egyptian man wearing a fake explosives felt forced the pilot to land his passenger jet in cyprus early this morning. welcome to happening now. i'm jon scott. heather: and i'm heather childers in for jenna lee. a busy morning so far already. unfortunately that plane did land safely and the