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caucus states behind us. i don't think it will impede her ability to win the nomination. >> she's obviously focused on new york. and it is 9:00 p.m. here in the east and 8:00 p.m. in wisconsin where polls are now closed across the state. >> fox news can project that vermont senator bernie sanders will defeat former secretary of state hillary clinton according to exit polls. thatanders has won six of the last seven states giving him significant momentum in advance of the new york primaries we talked about two weeks ago. >> fox exit polls show that texas senator ted cruz enjoys a solid lead over new york businessman donald trump, although it is too early to project a winner in that race. want to bring back in our panel. i know, here we go.
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>> i was enjoying the commentary with the panel. i love election night coverage. i was just thinking about something steve said which is about wisconsin voters. something people kind of forgot remember that scott walker fought a huge battle with the unions and that was all the coverage for weeks on end about this descending on the capital. so republicans in wisconsin have recently. so they're a little more united than you might have in other places. i do think it will be interesting to see how donald trump talks about this result tonight, because he could say let's just blow it off, i had a bad week i admit i had a bad week. i'm going to win in new england and win new york and we're going all the way to the convention. if that's the way he plays it that would be better for him in the long run. if he doesn't do that and he lashes out and blame and has a
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different reaction, that could be bad for him. >> the fact that the fox news decision desk can't make the call right away, it's not as definitive a win yet for cruz and this hour we may be able to make this call. the fact that trump spent so much time campaigning, trying to go to these different areas, suggested that he was delegate hunting in some of these congressional districts. >> and trying to redeem the last couple of weeks, which have been terrible for him. i don't think i've ever seen a candidate behave as poorly as trump has. they're trying to make sure enough delegates coming into july. i think trump -- or people around trump any way understand
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that it's been a remarkably bad couple of weeks for that campaign. >> dana adana loesch e we've seen terrible numbers for women supporting donald trump. when i had my ted cruz town hall just yesterday, he talked about his wife he talked about his daughters and made an allegation that he thinks donald trump has a difficulty with strong women. how much did that resonate? >> i think it resonated a lot. it humanized ted cruz. when they sit down and do these interviews their comments are very orchestrated. they don't like to let you look behind the veil too much. families are vulnerable. i think that was a more humanizing moment that ted cruz had. i wish trump would allow himself to be humanized a little more instead of showing himself to be
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just an icon or pop culture icon. because i think that his staying power in terms of growing his voter base that would be more effective if he did that. cruz did it last night. it's why he's surging right now and why you have the latest reuters poll for the first time he's leading trump right now, because he's having an effect. he's resonating voters. and it's appealing to them to see him as he humanizes himself talking about his wife and kids. >> you had melania trump on the campaign trail. some people said that humanized donald trump a little bit more. it's clear from the exit polls, trump has a loyal following that is not leaving him. >> right. he's winning 35% of the female vote. i went back and looked in north carolina he had 36%, ohio 32%. michigan 38%, and illinois 35%. so he's consistent with where he's been. the results of an nbc poll that
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came out today or yesterday shows he had dropped three points among women, republican or republican leaning women. same among men. so his -- in terms of where he is with women, it hasn't changed that much. and in the republican primary, those voters having affected him. >> steve, what do you make of what we've seen now? because some people are saying that if ted cruz doesn't win tonight, if he loses, and if he wins but he wins only by a little it's going to be dispiriting and perhaps deadly to the so-called never trump movement. >> if donald trump were to win in wisconsin, it would be a big surprise and would give him additional momentum and additional delegates more importantly on the march to 1237. but looking at the exit polls, that seems unlikely. and there are so many reasons ss
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for that in wisconsin. wisconsin voters have had two full weeks to scrutinize and evaluate these candidates. >> that is what is going to happen from this point forward. >> it slows the race down and that's one argument saying that he's been scrutinized more because of the time and because of talkradio in wisconsin. talkradio plays a huge role in wisconsin politics. trump had a very difficult interview, 17 minutes, asked a series of tough questions and this is something donald trump doesn't off get. it's not uncommon for donald trump to sit for a full hour and not face a tough question for the entire time. >> dana i want to ask you about the exit polls and this split in the republican party. if cruz is the nominee, 7 in 10 said they would vote for cruz over hillary clinton be 3 in 10
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said they would vote for clinton, vote third party or stay home. if trump is the nominee, 6 in 10 said they would vote for trump over clinton, but 4 in 10 would stay at home vote for clinton or third party. so this suggests we're in for a rocky road to cleveland. >> it's like trying to mix oil and water and i don't know if they can do it. on the the same type of exit poll said they're going to heal very quickly, be able to get in line and everyone is going to be fine. for the republicans, it's going to be much more difficult and they need every vote they can to beat her in november. >> tucker we did see a change from trump at the end of last week where he admitted he didn't have a great week he admitted it was a mistake to attack heidi cruz he brought out me lennia
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last night. is he going to shift his message a little bit to try to bring more people to build bridges opposed to burning them? >> i think it's simple. i thought the trump campaign was more about issues than people gave it credit. if you're upset about pointless foreign wars and the bailout of 2008 and open boarders and a lot of people are in the country, if a candidate addresses those things doesn't talk about himself or pick fights with people peripheral to the process, he can win. and i think trump shifted his focus to peripheral things that were irrelevant and weird. >> we just had a brand new wave of exit polls showing why voters are supporting their respective candidate. martha? >> it really goes to exactly what you all were just talking about. the republican divide is clearly
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alive and well in wisconsin. there are the trumpians and there are those who are not. despite the efforts on both sides to make the other go away in the badger state, it is not working. take a look at another number. this one shows that 4 in 10 voters say that having cruz as their president, 6 in 10 rather would make them either excited or optimistic. but 4 in 10 said it would make them scared or concerned. the trump numbers are the flip mirror image. so what is the most important characteristic? in wisconsin what matters to you the most for the gop voters? 34% say what matters the most is to bring change. this is an area that donald trump has been very strong. this time you basically got a split between ted cruz and donald trump. shares my values this is very consistent. ted cruz wins this one across
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the board in every state we looked at. tells it like it is donald trump category 20% this time for him. but look at win in november. this is electability. for people in wisconsin who say the most important thing to me is my candidate beat hillary clinton, most likely or bernie sanders, in november among those voters they're saying ted cruz is the person that could do that. remember in the past that was rubio territory. he was the most electable candidate until he dropped out. so it's very significant, interesting that that vote in wisconsin has went towards ted cruz. this is a moderate gop state essentially. it's a state that's not as angry as other states we've seen so an area where you would have expected a marco rubio to do well on're a john kasich to do pretty well. but it is ted cruz the tea party candidate, who is getting some of these categories in the exit polls that typically you would think given the makeup of
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this state, might go to somebody else. just to keep in mind before i send it back to you, it's a state where the issue of muslim immigration, immigration in general is not as hot a topic as it is in some of the other areas. and yet, despite that, ted cruz is the one getting some attention. so wisconsin was never supposed to be a state that was tailor made for him. if he does do well for him, it's too close to call at this point, as we all know but we'll be looking at some of these interesting markers for ted cruz tonight. >> martha thank you. i want to bring in chris wallace, karl rove and joe trippy former howard dean campaign manager. chris, take it away. >> thanks megyn. let's talk first of all, joe, about the race that fox news has called and that is for bernie sanders winning the state of wisconsin. this means he will now have won
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six of the last seven states. we've been talking about this for months. hillary clinton has an overwhelming lead, she has all the super delegates. she's going to be the nominee. what's going on here when he has won six of the last seven states? >> wisconsin in particular another state that was sort of made for bernie sanders. it's one of the whiter states in the country, doesn't have the diversity. he's going to win this state. he's going to win more states. but it's not about states anymore. it's about delegates. and so you'll see tonight i think part of his problem. no one understands how important that 239 pledged delegate lead she has is. there's 86 delegates in wisconsin. if he gets 46 and she gets 40 because of proportional she
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gets 50 he gets 50 she gets 36. 14 delegates he picks up. it's a win, bragging rights money is going to keep happening, his people will be recharged. but in the end it won't matter much. >> money is happening. he raised $15 million more in march than she did. it's quite extraordinary. she may win it but he's sticking around. let's turn to the republican race. you said earlier this week if donald trump wins wisconsin, the race is over. a lot of people thinking you don't particularly like donald trump, is that what's going on there? >> if he wins tonight in wisconsin, lit be effectively over. you had a popular governor a well organized cruz campaign, a well organized anti-trump advertising effort and trump had two terrible weeks. and so if trump wins tonight,
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then it says he's superman and there ain't no kryptonite around. >> now, the flip side that there is kryptonite around in the form of ted cruz and he wins does this mean that trump is in real trouble? one of the things i noticed in the exit polls, the republican voters primary voters less angry and less opposed to trade, to what degree is this sort of a one-off, an aberration of -- and not translatable to other states down the line? >> it is a slightly different state, but not grossly different than a lot of the states we've seen before. if it is a double digit margin this is a problem for trump. right now, look at the delegates who have been chosen. 736 by trump. that means 862 are not trump. so right now there's 126 vote
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gap between donald trump and -- >> 126 more delegates that aren't trump than for trump. >> so if tonight if cruz wins this state, he's going to extend that. the statewide winner gets 15 delegates, plus three winner take all, but this could be another 25 or 30 added -- >> and cruz in the end doesn't have to win. all he has to do is if the non-trump delegates are more than the trump delegates, that mean trump doesn't have the majority isn't the nominee. back to new york. >> chris, thank you. this is going to be interesting. a.p. is saying that wisconsin voter turnout projected to be the highest since 1980. so a lot of people turning out. >> ted cruz made a comment about chris wallace's last point, how he doesn't have to get the nomination he just has to get
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enough to stop trump. two guys running in the woods being chased by a bear. and one guy stops and puts on his running shoes and says i don't have to outrun the bear i just have to outrun you. >> that does it for me. i'll be back at 11:00 p.m. eastern. and we'll call bernie sanders the wisconsin winner. we'll see what happens on the gop side. >> i'll continue on with you. new m ally blind you may also be struggling with non-24. calling 844-844-2424. or visit tired of working for peanuts? well what if i told you that peanuts can work for you? that's right. i'm talking full time delivery of 7 grams of protein and 6 essential nutrients. ever see a peanut take a day off? i don't think so. harness the hardworking power of the peanut.
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breaking tonight. we are awaiting results in wisconsin's republican primary, which may determine the future of this gop race. the polls are closed but it is too close to call on the gop side. welcome back everyone. i'm megyn kelly. the full excitement of the white house race centering on wisconsin tonight. all five republican and democratic candidates crisscrossed the state over the last ten days. the energy driving an expected record turnout tonight, the highest in more than 30 years. on the republican side with votes still being counted, texas senator ted cruz is showing a solid lead. businessman donald trump in second there so far. and ohio governor john kasich in third place.
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on the democratic side, fox news can project that vermont senator bernie sanders will defeat former secretary of state hillary clinton. we senator ted cruz is the only candidate in wisconsin tonight. we expect him to speak after the race call. the trump campaign is in new york city. hillary clinton is in brooklyn. senator bernie sanders is in wyoming. republican governor john kasich canceled his events tonight. he's thriver er delivering ohio's state of the state address tomorrow night. so we're being told now if he wins we are going to hear something from him along the lines of the following. tonight is a turning point, a
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rallying cry, a real choice. joining me now with his thoughts, charles krauthammer, a fox news contributor and author of "things that matter." so that's going to be the message of the cruz campaign a turning point, a real choice for the voters. your thoughts? >> well it could be. and i know that's cruz's hope and he will certainly enjoy the delegate lead he will get from that out of wisconsin. it will help to narrow the fact that he trails trump. it will probably end up being less than 200 delegates as a result. and if they go into cleveland bunched up that's a huge advantage for cruz relative to where he is now. all of that is true. could be a turning point. but i'm impressed by one thing, according to the exit polls, trump, who will come in second if the exit polls are right, is going to have somewhere in the high 30s. now, think about what has just
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happened. he runs in a state where he's up against a popular governor who has a very strong machine. he's also up against -- this is trump -- up against very sophisticated, very influential local talkradio. he's also up against a ton of money. huge amount was dropped on him. it wasn't only the cruz money but the stop trump pacs dropped millions of dollars on him. and on top of all that it comes after the worst two weeks of the campaign, the fact that tucker said earlier, the worst two weeks he's ever seen for any candidate. if in spite of all of that, trump comes in with high 30s, he has the most rock solid floor of support of any candidate in memory. trump said he could walk out on 5th avenue could do that tonight, and i suppose if his twitter ever broke down he might
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do that and shoot somebody and he wouldn't lose a vote. there's something about his support that is so solid, that despite the loss in the face of all this it shows a remarkable staying power. >> and that's -- we've seen that in contest after contest, that his core of basic supporters will not abandon him. those republicans who think they will are deluting themselves from the look at these exit polls we've seen in every race. but the question seems to be more whether he can go above those numbers. at this point, they say you win elections by addition. by bringing more people over. that's why ted cruz will try to make the most of this and say it's not happening yet. now it's one on one and the voters have this choice. >> i think it's a perfect reflection of what will likely happen in cleveland. if this continues, cruz wins it
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tonight, does reasonably well in the states coming up there won't be huge gains, ending up where trump has a plurality but not a majority will reflect where he's at in the polls. once you go to a second ballot where so many of the delegates are released roughly half of them are released at that point, nobody has any idea where it goes. but i think trump, beyond the first ballot is far less likely to win the nomination -- >> what are the predictions if that leads to riot? >> it depends on what trump decides. he has tremendous power over his troops. if he walks out, a thousand will walk out after him. if he decides to make real trouble to disrupt the convention i don't mean with violence but protests,
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demonstrations boycotts, you could see that. it will be up to him whether he feels it's in his interest and whether he feels -- because he reacts viscerally in many ways whether he feels he's been cheated. if he does all hell will break loose. >> what do you make of the fact charles, we're not expecting to hear from donald trump we're not expecting to hear from hillary clinton? >> they all expect they're going to lose and lose big and they're going to lose in a way that's going to be hard to spin. in iowa marco rubio came on stage, he finished third and gave a victory speech. so there was a time when you could spin almost anything. we're now at a time where the candidates are winnowed and it's pretty obvious whether you won or lost. people have heard your stump speech. at the beginning, you get out
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ther give a stump speech win or lose. but at this point, it's better get off the stage, go to new york and give a big speech tomorrow. >> do you think the republican party is headed for destruction because the trump supporters many of them are saying they would never vote for cruz so many saying the same thing about trump. there's a real question about those who suggest they'll come on board, given if this goes all the way to the convention and gets bloodier and more uncomfortable, those who say oh know they'll come over does that conventional wisdom apply? >> no it doesn't. you can see it even now before it reaches the bloody stage. look at the exit polls today. i think the voters are asked if this candidate were the nominee, would you feel concerned or
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afraid? and with cruz the total number of republicans, 37% say they would be afraid or concerned. if trump is the nominee, that's 57%. that's a split rarely seen and i don't know that it can be healed. >> charles, thank you. >> my pleasure. got some news coming in for you now, as fox news is now able to project that ted cruz will win the state of wisconsin in a contest that was largely between him and donald trump. the final vote is still coming in. we're still counting. this is our projection at this hour that ted cruz will win. and now bret baier is back with me. the question is the margin. >> exactly. this is a big win for ted cruz. let's not minimize this. he was positioned well going in. but the fact that he pulled off a win, wehere just three, four weeks ago wisconsin looked like
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it was lining up for trump. right now as you look at the raw vote total is huge but that will narrow. >> the numbers that are basically meaningless that are on the board right now. >> if ted cruz gets upwards of 48%, 49%, he's going to get the state winning delegates and then you look at each congressional district. he could box trump out of a lot of delegates, the 42 on the table right now. >> it's now -- i thought tucker hit it on the head. what is at stake tonight is a contested convention. no one is going to win or lose based on these results. but every delegate that cruz can deprive trump of makes that last stretch over the finish line more difficult for donald trump and even though he's expected to win big in new york there's a question how he will do in indiana and california. so he wants every last delegate. >> it's all about the math 1237.
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even in new york which is the tonight, if trump doesn't get to 50%, he then all of the congressional districts split in new york and the 95 delegates there get divvied up among the candidates talking trump, cruz and kasich. you at california june 7, and that will be the deciding factor in this race. >> in which ted cruz is well organized and has been fighting now for months. he's been looking at that june 7th day, understanding its potential significance. trump's campaign does so well motivating people from the candidate. it emanates from donald trump himself. people feel inspired by him. he hasn't had to have the superior ground game and now it's getting dicier because now as ted cruz puts it it's more manoi man o ii ii -- mano i mano.
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breaking news. fox news projects that texas senator ted cruz will defeat donald trump in wisconsin's republican presidential primary, according to fox news exit polls and the early vote returns. this victory helps ted cruz slow donald trump's momentum after a rough week on the campaign trail for the new york businessman. joining me now, chris stirewalt and the director of the university of virginia's center for politics larry sabbadeau. so this basically means we're headed for an open convention or is that not clear? >> the likelihood going to cleveland with any candidate with bound delegates got lower tonight.
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how much lower will depend whether ted cruz is able to shoot the moon and win all or almost all of the state's eight congressional delegates. we'll see -- >> it's too early to say that. >> trump had some real strength in the north and western part of the state. he might be able to pull off one or two congressional districts up there. we'll know how god a night this was for cruz. but right now we know this the likelihood of anybody walking into cleveland as the outright winner went down tonight, not up. >> larry, as we await ted cruz your thoughts? >> that's exactly right. look it's still possible for trump to exceed the 1,237 majority needed to win on the first ballot but the odds have been lessened because of tonight. and it was always going to be tight. look he's either going to get a few dozen less than that number or he's going to go slightly above it. in any event, we're probably in
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for six weeks of very tough negotiations after the final primaries on june 7. >> larry, you did a piece on your amazing crystal ball blog talking how the electoral college math for donald trump versus hillary clinton, right now, looks bad. it looks like a landslide victory for her. have you done that with the understanding that it's very early, have you done that with ted cruz or for that matter john kasich? >> we've not been able to because there isn't as much data and information on the other candidates as there is on clinton versus trump. i would expect based on the national polls i've seen for cruz to do better than trump against clinton. although how much better is a big question. kasich to be blunt about it is probably of the three candidates, the republican's best shot to defeat clinton. he leads her almost everywhere. >> but that just shows how
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hypothetical it is. because the exit polls did not have good news for john kasich and the odds of him becoming the republican nominee are slim and none. >> that's right. the longer he stays in this process, the more embittered the other members of his party will be against him. the idea that somehow that he in third place, i think he's still in fourth place behind the not running marco rubio. but the idea that this embittering process that he stays in the race and then is the white knight at a deadlocked convention is poppycock. i don't get it. [ no audio ] -- than than wow to ted cruz. so he will steal more votes from donald trump in the coming weeks than he is from ted cruz. >> that's the thing, larry, trump, even though this is a
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loss for them tonight, he's leading in california leading in pennsylvania very well positioned in new york all of which are delegate rich. >> yes. he's clearly going to do very well in new york and i think he'll do very well the following week in the pennsylvania plus middle atlantic northeastern primary. so he's likely to pick up a lot of delegates there. and then it switches back in this ping-pong match. it will go to indiana, debate i would say cruz is pretty substantially favored in both of those states. that's what we're going to see now, back and forth, back and forth, all the way through june 7th when we could do that addition and see whether trump is at 1237. nothing else much matters. if trump does not get to a firm 1237 delegates on the first ballot, he's not going to be the nominee. >> why? because ted cruz has worked the
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other delegates so much? >> go ahead, chris. >> i was just going to say, cruz's best shot is to win on the first ballot because of what you say, megyn. the fact that he is working these other delegates. we have at least 150 unbound delegates plus others that will come into cleveland, not collegepledged to any candidate. and we also have rubio's delegates. cruz will hope that there are 200 delegates or so that might be able to pull him into an outright win on the first ballot. it's a powerful can make that the best way and the best time to stop donald trump is not on the fifth ballot -- >> i am learning something. you're telling me that the ted cruz plan is to get rubio's delegates to vote for him, ted cruz on the first vote? >> to get as many first ballot votes as he can from unbound delegates and beg, beg, beg marco rubio come on release your delegates. let me do this so that he can
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take it over the top, right from the start. because once you -- you have all these establishment republicans high on all this fifth ballot stuff. >> that's fascinating. gentlemen, thank you both. we're awaiting ted cruz. i want to get to our next guest, stuart stevens, author of "the innocent have nothing to fear." and scott brown, former massachusetts republican senator. stuart your thoughts on what we're seeing tonight? >> it's a good night for ted cruz and not such a good night for donald trump. i really think that as larry was saying that there's two numbers to focus on the 1237 number but also the head-to-head with hillary clinton. i think that it's going to be very sobering as increasingly that number sets in unless it changes. if it stays the same we're looking at an epic landslide for democrats that is likely to take out not just the white house but the senate and throw the house into jeopardy. for a party to do that is very
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unusual when there's any other plausible options. >> you know that ted cruz in the head-to-head matchups with hillary loses by three points. donald trump loses by 10 or 11. kasich wins but kasich has only won his home state. >> listen what can i say? i think that kasich should have run earlier and run longer. it's very hard running for president. it's very very difficult to win a nomination. i think he's a tremendous talent and a great governor it's just hard. >> but senator brown, what i'm going for here is if the republicans want simply the most electable candidate, they go for john kasich if they're just following the polls. that is not apparently what is driving the vote this year. >> no of course not. people are angry. look at john, who is a great guy. and they look at him as part of the establishment, somebody who has been in the senate is a
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governor so there's that anti-establishment thing that is just there. on the left and the right. it's interesting what's happening tonight with all the negative press, with the unforced errors with the barrage of negative ads, you know if donald comes out of it with a handful of delegates -- [ no audio ] -- and the actual convention where they can work the delegate math and work the delegates and so on. but obviously at this point, they say wisconsin predicts the winners, that wisconsin has a great history of predicting the nominee. that's because at this point in contest, the party has coalesced behind one person. we're in an alternate universe
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where the divisions seem to be growing deeper. >> i don't think that these predictors are very accurate. in 2012 mitt romney lost south carolina and no republican had ever lost south carolina and went on to win the nomination. i think the key here is electability is a weak message. i don't think ted cruz is out there selling electability. within three points you're within the margin of error, you have a fighting chance here to win an election. and certainly he's someone also and this is important. republicans can stand on stage with ted cruz. they may not agree with him on everything. he certainly hasn't been my favorite candidate in a lot of regards. but i think a lot of republicans are going to have trouble standing only stage and embracing donald trump and saying i stand with this person who has said these things and does these things. to a certain degree you have to say the trump campaign is trying
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to adapt and shift, but schedules a series of policy speeches, i think that's positive for them. they've hired seasoned operatives. if they can prove to be a learning organism and adapt, they can change. >> that's the thing -- >> if not, i think it will be very tough for republicans to go with someone who is losing by double digits. >> senator brown, now that donald trump is so close to the end, he's successfully eliminated almost all of those 17 other contenders he was against -- >> please welcome the governor of wisconsin. >> stand by. we'll get to them when we get to ted cruz. now that donald trump has eliminated almost all but the last two remaining candidates can he shift? can he reach out to the republican party, try to mend some fences? try to be as his wife said more presidential stay away from the twitter?
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>> sure. obviously he needs to and i think he started that when he met with the rnc and has tried to reach out to other members of congress. i think that's critically important. i know i made that suggestion and many other people have. so it's very important. i thought your analysis by the other guest about talking about policy and really putting forth where he stands on positions is critically important now. i think that will give people a good sense of where his head is at. and he is learning. he is growing. we'll see what happens. it's not over until it's over. and this is far from over. you guys are going to have a lot of fun and things to talk about. >> in the meantime stuart hillary clinton, her unfavorables we talk a lot about donald trump's unfavorables with women, because we've seen some numbers lately. but her numbers with women are quite bad, too. they're almost as bad as his. and so the democrats are vulnerable this year. it is not a lock for her.
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>> the problem with donald trump is he's depressing republican base vote because he's turning off a lot of republicans who voted for mitt romney. what he's saying these inflammatory things motivate democratic base voters. so you have to have the worst of both worlds. you're turning off your base and turning on the other base. it's hard to win that way. i have to believe there's somebody inside the clinton head quarters that sacrificing at least a small goat every day hoping that donald trump wins. she has only 37% of the public thinks that hillary clinton is honest but only 27% think that donald trump is honest. >> but they don't care about honesty. only 15% of the voters care about honesty. they have given up with honesty among their politicians. >> i never know how to answer that. >> let's give it to scott brown. he actually held office. >> honesty is very important and people don't trust hillary clinton and they think of her as
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a liar. there's no trust worthiness. and the fact that bernie sanders, a socialist, who has been a politician virtually his whole life he's looked at as the outsider? it's fascinating. if in fact we don't unite, let's just -- >> senator, my apologies. but we don't want to miss this. senator ted cruz is coming out for an important night on him. if a victory that he was looking for. i asked him last night, what do you want? he said i want to win. and he's gotten that win tonight. you can see him on stage in a state which he's worked very hard to win. his wife heidi cruz harvard mba, standing next to him. you can see some of his supporters on the stage. one of the interesting things is whether ted cruz waxes poetic and sounds like a preacher or whether his message starts to change to appeal more to the northeastern states which come up next. that's been one of the
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criticisms of cruz and his messages and something that you could hear a little shift on in the past days. so we'll listen together and find out whether we hear certainly a jubilant ted cruz tonight, but the message he has. [ cheers and applause ] >> god bless the great state of wisconsin! [ applause ] what an incredible victory tonight. and thank you to your tremendous governor governor scott walker for his principles and passionate leadership. [ cheers and applause ] tonight is a turning point. it is the rallying cry. it is a call from the hardworking men and women of wisconsin to the people of america.
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we have a choice. a real choice. the national political terrain began to change two weeks began to change two weeks ago. in the state of utah, we won 69% of the vote a landslide election. winning every single delegate in the state. then just three days ago in colorado two congressional districts voted. once again, they elected six delegates and of those six delegates we won all six. and then two days ago in north dakota we had another tremendous win. they elected their delegates. of the delegates who specified their support, 18 are supporting
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our campaign. one is supporting donald trump. 18 to 1, i'll take that ratio any day of the week. and now tonight here in wisconsin, a state that three weeks ago the media written off, three weeks ago, the media said wisconsin was a perfect state for donald trump. but the hard working men and women of wisconsin stood and campaigned tirelessly to make sure that tonight was a victory for every american.
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four very different states. utah colorado, north dakota, wisconsin. fo victories. so just how significant is tonight? well just today our campaign has raised over $2 million. people all over the country going to ted ted ted contributing $10 or $25 or $50. we've had over $1.3 million contributions.
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in the last two weeks and in the coming days when colorado and wyoming finish voting we are likely to have gained over 100 delegates on donald trump. and as a result of tonight, as a result of the people of wisconsin defying the media, the pundits i'm more and more convinced our campaign is going to earn the 1,237 delegates needed to win the republican nomination. either before cleveland or at the convention in cleveland,
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together we will win a majority of the delegates and together we will beat hillary clinton in november. tonight was a bad night for hillary clinton. it was a bad night in the democratic primary and it was an even worse night for her in the republican primary. we're winning because we're uniting the republican party. of the 17 candidates who started this race a terrific talented dynamic field, 5 have now endorsed this campaign.
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rick perry and lindsay graham and jeb bush and carly fiorina and wisconsin's own governor scott walker -- whether you toss in senator mike lee and mark levin levin -- we've got the full spectrum of the republican party coming together and uniting behind this campaign. in 1960 accepting the
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democratic party's nomination john f. kennedy observed i think the american people expect more from us than cries of indignation and attack. the times are too grave, the challenge too urgent and the stakes too high to permit the customary passions of political debate. we are not here to curse the darkness. but to light the candle that can guide us to see through that darkness to a safe and sane future. as winston churchill said on taking office if we open a quarrel between the present and the past we shall be in danger of losing the future. the same is true today. tonight, wisconsin has lit a candle guiding the way forward.
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tonight, we once again have hope for the future. tonight is about unity and tonight is about hope. young people in america once again have hope that we will bring jobs back to america. by repealing obamacare, passing it -- reining in the federal regulators that are killing small businesses. passing a flat tax.
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and abolishing the irs. we will unleash incredible economic growth. our border will finally be made secure. and sanctuary cities will end. truck drivers and mechanics and plumbers and steelworkers union members, men and women with calluses on their hands, will once again see wages rising opportunity expanding. working moms -- working moms struggling to make ends meet will see take-home pay rising. the cost of living falling.
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and common core ending. catholic schools and jewish day schools, bringham young and the little sisters of the poor will see a supreme court that protects their religious liberty. fundamental freedom of every one of us to live according to our faith and our conscious. we'll see a supreme court that protects -- >> ted cruz telling the viewers and the voters tonight that this is a turning point and a rallying cry saying this was the perfect state for donald trump to win according to the progress
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nast caterkate prognosticators. i'm megyn kelly. this is "the kelly file." and thanks. this is a fox news alert. welcome to "hannity." tonight the battle for wisconsin, on the republican side fox news is now projecting senator ted cruz he will win the badger state. donald trump second. governor kasich third place and as for the democrats, bernie sanders will in fact defeat hillary clinton. sanders won 6 of the last 7 democratic state contests. joining us now with reaction former speaker of the house newt gingrich and contributor that henalysis, you got to admit this is one of the most fascinatin