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serious mini golf skills. she danced her way to victory twice now. i think she's going to carry this gloating for a few months. >> i want to thank my mom, my family. thank you so much. good morning, everyone. welcome. i'm maria bartiromo. welcome to "sunday morning futures." brand-new polls out this morning in the gop race for the white house from new york and pennsylvania. who's out front and who's gaining momentum as questions linger about what could be an interesting convention in cleveland. >> plus, bernie sanders picks up another victory last night making it seven out of the eight last cob tests. should hillary clinton be worried headed into the new york primary? and new details this morning following the belgium terrorist attack. they decided to attack brussels
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instead. we'll have the details as we look ahead this morning on "sunday morning futures." the battle for new york heats up this morning in a big way with the candidates going all out in the empire state. this after a one-sided gop primary in colorado. ted cruz sweeping all the state's delegates, a total of 34. now the campaign is moving to territory that could be less favorable and more favorable to opponents, especially donald trump. that includes new york. according to brand-new fox news polls this morning trump is leading the way in new york. john kasich coming in second with 22% support and ted cruz is in third place with 15% support. joining me right now is someone who knows the state's republican voters very well. edward cox is with us, chairman of the republican party of new york. >> good to be with you. >> this is your turf. >> you bet. >> the next two weeks is going
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to be so exciting. >> the democratic primary is interesting, but the republican one is going to be decisive. those polls are about right. they've been confirmed by other polls. donald trump is over 50%. if he stays there, he may get the 80 of the 95 delegates he needs to have a chance to win on the first ballot. if he drops below 50%, he's probably going to drop below the 80 delegates he needs and it would probably be an open convention. the republican grass roots, when they vote, will make the difference. >> this is really going to make a difference and put which ever candidate over the edge. >> and it's exciting. hey, this is new york. how you eat your pizza makes a difference. >> that infamous new york values comment from ted cruz of course that i asked him about in the republican debate this year, it seems to have impacted him. >> you're right.
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he's certainly interpreted that that means values of andrew cuomo and eric snyderman and hillary clinton. >> and pay put anthony wiener is on that list. >> that's the way he's interpreting new york values. he's got some things to make up here. kasich, if he picks up delegates here, which he could, particularly in the upscale down state area, if he picks those up, he could get some momentum going in the convention if it were an open convention. >> what a mistake for ted cruz to make to put this whole brush stroke on new york. >> look, he's campaigning upstate of course. he was in other places upstate. up there, they call themselves apple knockers, knocking the big apple. look, new york is a very diverse state demographically. that includes in the republican party. and so they're all going to be
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campaigning in places where they think they're going to be able to pick up delegates and that's good for the party in new york state. it makes it exciting for the first time in the history of primary -- republican primaries in new york state. >> you make a really good point. go through new york and tell us where you think the real battlegrounds lie for trump, cruz, and kasich. >> the most interesting battleground is new york city because in a metropolitan area, you have one-half of the delegates. you have one-half of the congressional districts. and only a small number of republicans in each one of those congressional districts. whoever has the better organization, figures out where they should campaign down state here, they could pick up a significant number of delegates and a significant number of delegates can make the difference whether donald trump gets 80 of the 95 or not. >> what do you think is going to happen going into the jill convention? are you expecting a contested convention? >> maria, i do not know.
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anything can happen in this, particularly here in new york state and new york city. because this is the media capital of the country. what happens here is going to reverberate all across the country. >> comment for us on the democratic side of the race, because this is also incredibly interesting. this is the most important situation for hillary clinton right now. senator from new york. >> you know, i got together with former governor david patterson who is chairman of the party at the time. and we fixed april 19th as the date so new york would be the only primary on april 19th. it's gotten as exciting on his side as on our side. it's working out the way we wanted to so the voters here in new york state will really have a chance to weigh in on who their nominee should be. >> we're going to talk with luis miranda next. but talk to us about the new york voter today. what is most important to the voter in new york? is it the economy, national
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security? what are you hearing from c constituen constituents? >> jobs, jobs, jobs. that's what really counts. particularly among donald trump supporters. they're concerned about their livelihoods. they're concerned about what foreign countries are doing the jobs here in the united states. but that goes across the boards, not just for donald trump supporters, particularly here in new york state where we have a really failing climate for businesses. the -- the issue of jobs is the big overarcing issue. that's the main issue. >> failing climate for business. explain that for us. >> the least business-friendly state in the united states. >> because of taxes? >> well, taxes, regulations, putting the minimum wage up at $15 when across the board in pennsylvania it's half that. businesses with unskilled labor will move across the border. it's a issue of jobs.
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new york democrats who are in control of this state and new york city are very progressive. they want to prove they're progressive, but in the process they're killing jobs. >> so you make a really good point. the $15 an hour, now you saw california do it as well. but to compare to a state like pennsylvania, that is a real comparison because it's much lower. >> absolutely. >> are people looking or businesses looking there to say, okay, this is going to be -- >> of course. unskilled labor planning ahead is going to say, i'm going to need a $15 minimum wage for my unskilled worker, i'm going to go across the border to pennsylvania. they get other supplements, they'll be doing all right. but the $15 minimum wage is really a big tax on my business here in new york state. >> donald trump has said that he doesn't think it should go to $15. we asked him that as well. what's your sense of john kasich right now?
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22% of the vote in new york in the second spot. >> new york is a place where he could do very well. yip scale down state, he always does well with more upscale voters, east side or west side of manhattan or in certain parts of brooklyn or the suburbs, i think he could do very well with a very aggressive campaign. pick up delegates that would give him some momentum going into the convention. >> were you surprised at the poll numbers that we received today? >> not at all. that's where the polls are now. >> i guess no surprise that trump would be leading in new york. >> sure. but he's never gotten over 50% in any state. now, this is a state where he could do it. but 54% is not overwhelming and he's normally closed somewhat down in actual votes from the final poll. so this makes it a very exciting race here in new york state. great moment for the republican party here. >> thank you so much for joining us.
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ed cox, chairman of the republican party of new york. bernie sanders racked up wins across the west. can he translate that momentum to a victory on hillary clinton's home tir f? you can follow me on twitter. let us know what you'd like to hear from luis miranda next on "sunday morning futures."
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miranda, communications director for the democratic national committee. thanks so much for joining us. >> good morning. >> how do you characterize the battle for new york on the democratic side right now? >> it's an important one. it's interesting having one of the two candidates having been born there, the other as her adopted home state. it's going to be an exciting primary. it's been great to watch these two candidates go out and compete in so many states. we have a situation right now where one of our candidates earned more votes than donald trump. the other one's raised more money than any of the others from individual contributions. in fact, hillary clinton has more than donald trump. bernie sanders has more votes earned than john kasich and ted cruz. we're seeing a lot of enthusiasm. for us, the extended primary helps us to be able to test out and prepare the state parties to work towards the general election. >> a lot of enthusiasm for sure. but nobody, very few people
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expected that bernie sanders would be riding this victory as strongly as he is. do you worry more about bernie sanders taking the thunder from hillary clinton or about actual voter turnout? you say enthusiasm, but the numbers are actually down in terms of voters coming out. >> wisconsin was a good indicator. we had seven out of ten voters on the democratic side saying they'd be excited or optimistic with any of our candidates. that's what we're seeing generally. we have a lot of enthusiasm on each side. i think we're going to come together very strongly at the convention. in 2008, it was easily the most contested primary we've had on the democratic side. it was senator clinton at the time who nominated senator obama and called for voting him in by acclamation. you have a dynamic where i think that at the end we're heading towards a general election where we're going to come out very united. i'd rather have the week we had.
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you had a bunch of endorsements coming out for ted cruz that were holding their nose and ben carson on television saying of course there's people that are better qualified and this idaho senator that simply didn't know what to say about having to endorse ted cruz. we're going in, we'll be able to get united. our candidates are going to have to show those differences between them and we'll come together at the con vepgs in philadelphia. >> do you think we will see a contested convention on the democratic side? >> i don't believe so. there's still plenty of time, obviously they have to determine how to run those and do that best. but i feel like we'll have this settled before the convention. >> there's so many things to talk about. but i want to really get your take on what the conversation is around the delegates. there is this feeling out there that the game is rigged when it comes to hillary clinton because even though bernie sanders is winning in many contests she keeps racking up all the
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delegates as if they have been programmed before the contest even began, the delegates and the super delegates. >> well, you look at a situation with super delegates, they're only 15% of the over overall delegates, the most important thing is the pledge delegates determined by the caucuses and primaries. super delegates don't actually vote until the convention. i think one of the things that happens a lot, the news organizations report super delegates as if those were vote totals when it's basically an informal poll of these organizations. they don't vote until the conventi convention. the only thing we should be looking at is the total number of delegates. you had a situation yesterday where it's a small state and they have a relatively small number of delegates, so the split at 55/45 gives them roughly the same number of delegates because you can't
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split a person in half. look, we have proportional delegate distribution because it's a very democratic process. we feel very confident in the fact that we'll head into the convention with a clear difference in who the nominee is going to be and that we'll come together. >> what do you think is most important to new york voters going into the primary? >> the economy. i agree with ed cox. i think the economy continues to be important. i just think that we have to show the contrast and why democratic leadership has been better. when president obama came into office, you had the stock market had lost 50% of its precrisis peak value. you look at where we are today with the strength of 73 months of job sector growth, i think anybody would take their chances in today's economy versus what we had when bush left office with 800,000 jobs being lost every month. we have to remind people what it was like when everyone was losing their homes and savings
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and there was this exploding crisis that really left our country in shambles and say, do you really want to go back with republicans or do you want to move forward. and ultimately, we're having a spirited debate, but it's about moving forward. >> to be clear, the economy is sort of bumping along the bottom. but the talking point and the messaging that you're talking right now, how do you get that out and let it resonate with the people so they actually come out and vote in this primary? >> we have to do a good job of organizing and getting out there and talking to voters. i do think that our candidates, they've got to compete with each other, draw those differences out between one another. they're also talking about the bigger picture of just how far we've come and make these points about the economic progress we've made. they've got to be looking forwards the general election. >> what about the fbi investigation around hillary clinton? i mean, if this does go down a road that you obviously would
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not want to see like the fbi recommending an indictment or something like that. is there a plan b for the democrats? >> look, i think that she's not the subject of an investigation. and even -- >> well, it's her server, right? her server. >> one of the things that gets -- >> you said she wasn't the subject of the investigation. >> yeah, correct. >> of course she's the -- it's her server. we know that. >> i think there's something that gets lost in all of this which is that technology has moved very fast over the last 20 years. you look at the '90s, there wasn't even an internet in the way that we have it today. so the government is still adapting to this. i think that's largely what we're seeing. but i feel that ultimately come the general election, people are going to be voting on the economy, on how far we've come, what kind of direction are we going to take on foreign policy. you have a stark difference between our candidates and their ability to mobilize the world --
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>> sounds like there is no plan b? >> i don't think there's an issue there at all. >> we'll leave it there. good to have you on the program this morning. >> good to be on. >> luis miranda joining us from the dnc. startling revelations about the terrorists in brussels. the target they originally planned to hit and why they changed their plans. we're looking ahead this morning on "sunday morning futures." stay with us. hey, we're opening up a second shop and we need some new signage. but can't spend a lot. well, we have low prices and a price match guarantee. scout's honor? low prices. pinky swear? low prices. eskimo kisses? how about a handshake? oh, alright... the lowest price. every time. staples. make more happen. what would help is simply being able to recognize a fair price.
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terrorists behind the deadly bombings in brussels originally planned to launch a second attack on paris. they say a speedy investigation possibly pushed the terrorists to change their target. this comes as mohamed abrini confessed to being the man in the hat caught on surveillance video at the brussels airport just before the bombing. with me now, sebastian gorka. dr. gorka, good to see you. >> glad to be back. >> what is your takeaway to this arrest and now the knowledge that they continue to get about their initial targets and then changing their minds to go to brussels? >> a couple of things. the first is that this is evidence tha we have a continent-wide conspiracy. so we have multiple cells across multiple countries that are connected to each other. so that's really bad news. secondly, there is a demonstration if this proves to be true that they have an
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inordinate level of flexibility. so they were going back to paris to do another attack, they felt the pressure from law enforcement, and as a result, they completely changed their target set and went for brussels as well. so these aren't people that are having to obey some kind of instructions from the outside. they have the flexibility to pick targets. and then lastly, the most disturbing thing are the statements from the interior minister that there are still elements of these cells at large in europe. >> and in fact, officials found a whole cache of weaponry as well indicating that perhaps the planning continues. what should we know about these secret cells, whether it be throughout europe and importantly in the u.s. as well? >> what we need to do, just the facts of the case. so at our company, we have the report on how many isis arrests in the u.s. more than 98 people arrested.
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we know that 6,000 westerners have been recruited by isis. so that includes americans, frenchmen, germans, and the security services of europe say at least 500 of them have come back into europe. they went to syria and iraq to fight, but at least 500 are back on the continent. the big question is, how many of those 6,000 are americans and are going to come back to u.s. soil to do a paris or brussels type attack. >> you would think that as these arrests are happening, officials are finding out more and more about the background plans that these terrorists have in place. >> well, yes, i mean, from the interrogations themselves. but there's a huge amount of information out there already. isis has an incredibly profession magazine called dabiq. it has in it recipes on how to attack the infidels on u.s. soil, in europe, who you should target first. there's an inordinate amount of
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information out there. the question is, are we reading it, taking the necessary conclusions and the precaution anywhere actions that have to be taken. seems as if some of these things are slipping through the net. >> do you recommend policy changes at this point? >> absolutely, yes. we are focusing on the wrong things. in the u.s., we have this countering violent extremism wrong. you don't want to stop individuals becoming jihadis, you want to take down the message of jihad and you want to monitor those hives of radic radicalization like this part of brussels. >> of sense. dr. gorka, always a pleasure. president obama getting ready to unleash a flood of new regulations. we'll take a look at the impact on the economy as we look ahead on "sunday morning futures" next.
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welcome back. the international monetary fund will public its world economic outlook this up coming tuesday ahead of spring meetings next week. i sat down with christine lagarde to talk about trends over the last six months, and concerns over great britain leaving the european union. here's what she said about the
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economy today. >> have things worsened just in the last six months? >> yes. our baseline is a little bit lower. but what we see is the downside risks are certainly higher. and we advocate very strongly with a three-pronged approach and more cooperation between all the key players. what we mean by that is structural reforms that people have been talking about which is about time to actually get done. fiscal policy that has to be growth friendly across the board and advocating fiscal stimulus, this is not where we are for the moment. and third, monetary policy that supports all that. >> what has been the economic impact from what we're seeing in europe? >> difficult to say because it's a bit early onto measure the economic impacts of the million plus refugees coming into europe, predominantly in germany. our study shows if there is good integration, meaning language training, skills retraining eventually, housing support,
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facility to enter the job market, the benefit can be quite significant. we figure that it would be a plus .2% for the whole of the euro area and .5%. so plus .5% for germany alone. but of course this is subject to proper integration, proper skill training for those people who are coming. >> what is your take on britain right now? we've got a referendum coming up june 23rd where they're deciding whether or not to exit the european union. year ago, people would have said no way. now people are saying wait a minute, they may actually leave. what are the implications? >> it's hard to say for me now because we are currently completing the study of that particular project. by it's very likely to be a net negative and a big concern because it's uncertainty. it opens the door to, you know,
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what will be the next regime in place for trade between the u.k. and the rest of the european union. what will happen to the financial center of london if it works in isolation relative to the continent. those are unanswered questions which open big uncertainties. >> and joining us right now is art laffer, the founder and chairman of laffer associates and former economic advisor to president reagan. >> good to see you, marimaria. >> that was christine lagarde on friday. and basically she said the economy has worsened in the last six months. how would you characterize the economy right now? >> well, i think it has worsened in the last six months. to a large extent, she and the rest of the instruments in europe are the problem. they're trying to more regulate, more tax, more coordinate. free markets really are about the only way to solve these problems and she clearly is not a free market supporter. she didn't mention anything that
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would be pro growth. it's ever larger european government. i sort of hope right now that britain does exit the european union. brexit might really give britain a chance to do a lot better. >> actually, she also mentioned that she's encouraging u.s. officials to raise the minimum wage. >> there you go. yeah. there you go. >> let's talk about that as well as regulation right now as it relates to the election, art, who of these candidates do you think has the right secret sauce, if you will, to roll back the regulations enough to actually create an environment that gets business to hire? >> i think donald trump and ted cruz both have excellent chance of doing exactly that. this primary is a wonderful, wonderful exercise in democracy. and i think both of these candidates would do a great job. hillary on the other hand is going exactly the opposite direction and we all know what direction bernie's going. it's just going to create a bigger and bigger problem.
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i think this election is critical. i think the republicans are going to win and you're going to get a huge change in the u.s. economy all for the better. but it will take some time. >> an expert basically says trump's plan is a bust because it's going to blowout the debt and bernie sanders' plan is a bust because it's going to blowout the debt. so the issue of how do you pay for the tax cuts and how do you pay for rolling back regulation, you say what? >> let me if i can -- i'm sure they would also say ted cruz's plan is a blowout as well. even little changes in economic growth change the dynamics of revenues dramatically. we need growth far more than we need to address the deficit at present. you really need to build that base of growth to have surpluses in the future. if you look at bill clinton, the wonderful administration bill clinton had from '93 on, all predicated on the base built by
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ronald reagan. those two presidents together really create add long period of prosperity. i think that's the way to go. you don't want to balance the budget in one hour, one week, one month, one year. you want to create the prosperity that allows you to balance it over the long term. taxes take a while to operate and really change the structure of economic growth. both cruz and trump have very good tax plans to guarantee we do get that growth back and create jobs and not create welfare. >> one is a flat tax and one is lowering the corporate rate. >> personal income rate too. trump does that too. both of them are just great tax plans and that's what we need. that will give us the prosperity and the balanced budgets four, five, six, seven, eight years a ago. >> we got -- real kick quick. >> it amazes me about bernie sanders. he's attracting a lot of youth
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very disenchanted with the economy and the prospects. they've never had a paycheck. they don't know who fica is. >> who is that man? >> who is that guy fica. >> good to see you, art. let's get a look at what's coming up. media buzz. >> good morning, maria. we'll look at the coverage of the new york values campaign between donald trump and ted cruz and increasingly acrimonious and personal war of words between hillary clinton and bernie sanders. as well, the "the boston globe" running this mock front page of all the terrible things happening in a trump presidency and an interview with kelly. she had done nothing wrong, but she was friendly with two top u.s. generals. she's speaking out now about the way she was treated by the press and the fbi. >> we'll see you in about 20 minutes, howie. up next, no rest for donald trump, ted cruz, and john kasich in the city that never sleeps.
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(dad laughs) wow, you're laughing. that's not the way the world works. well, the world's changing. are you asking enough questions about the way your wealth is managed? wealth management, at charles schwab. donald's path to 1,237 is almost impossible. it's going to be a battle in cleveland to see who can earn the majority of the delegates that were elected by the people. i think we will go in with an overwhelming advantage. >> ted cruz striking a confident tale there after snapping up more delegates yesterday in colorado. the three remaining republicans are grinding for every last delegate right now. analysts say donald trump is the only candidate with a real chance of hitting that magic number of 1,237 delegates needed to clench the nomination.
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but his rivals are vowing to stay in the race insisting that once they get to cleveland all bets are off. >> these delegates are going to be -- because nobody's going to get there with enough votes so there's going to be this convention and you're going to be spending a lot of time learning about how we pick a president. we've had ten contested republican conventions, and only three times did the frontrunner get picked. >> wow. let's bring in our panel on that. ed rollins, former who is advisor to ronald reagan. and a democratic consultant on the clinton/gore campaign. and tony is former political strategist and a fox news contributor. good to see you. you just heard ted cruz, john kasich, what's your takeaway? >> john goes far back in history to get to those three. in modern times, it's pretty much a frontrunner or a chaser. john can make a deal maybe for vice president and have an
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impact, but certainly it's going to be cruz or trump. if trump doesn't get it on the first ballot, cruz is going to win. trump can't compete at this point in time. he has the big momentum, most delegates and may still be the nominee, but right today, he's losing every one of these singular battles for the delegates because cruz's team is better. >> can cruz win the general election? >> i don't know -- depends what kind of campaign they run. both of begin as underdogs. >> hank, it's pretty extraordinary when you consider the fact it's not just the republican side that could go contested convention. >> truthfully, both parties are in very serious trouble. populism is the answer for people who can't figure out how to define these problems in a way that makes sense. that's what's going on both sides of the aisle. >> and new york, really critical right now for the overall election. >> certainly for the two
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frontrunners for sure, maria. if you think about hillary clinton, she's lost eight out of the nine last contests. that's a very devastating trajectory for someone who was essentially supposed to have a coronation to the nomination. i don't know how much you can deny to the bernie sanders voter that he had a legitimate chance of making it to the convention. donald trump has really kind of lost the edge he once had the more protracted battle this becomes about gaining delegates. cruz understands the mechanics here. he's getting delegates in states he lost. it matters. he gets it much more than trump which is why short of new york, cruz right now is netting 130 more delegates out of the last four contests than donald trump. >> what about the new york values thing? >> it's certainly him. i've heard it all over. certainly the state -- which is why cruz right now is actually in third place in new york.
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but does new york matter to cruz? even if trump wins, every delegate in new york, cruz still with the last five contests would have have plus 30 delegate advantage. with cruz, it's more about the western states, nebraska. >> and california. california has 53 congressional seats. it's all about congressional seats. 39 are democrat, 14 are republican. he has the former party types there, he has the conservatives there, it's not a state with any moderate republicans anymore. there's still nothing for trump. trump hired a good guy, paul manafort, but that creates disarray in his campaign. they have a washington office, campaign manager that turned out to be an apprentice and not a very good one. you're going to see nothing but disarray for the remaining period here. >> the populous effect is much more significant among republicans right now than
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democrats. bernie sanders being levelled off. hillary has a solid voting block, women over 40, african-americans, the republicans have to figure out how to make sure if trump is going to lose that, loses by a significant number. if it's close, that convention will be a real mess and the potential for violence is not insignificant. >> hillary still has a very significant problem. she can't get white men. >> and young voters. >> let's zero in on that next block. bernie sanders now with more wind in his sail after picking up another victory this weekend. how much does it mean heading into the new york primary? the panel back to discuss that. we're looking ahead this morning on "sunday morning futures." see me. see me. don't stare at me. see me. see me. see me to know that psoriasis is just something that i have.
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in the delegate count, clinton is still far ahead, though, leading sanders by almost 700. still "saturday night live" poked fun at the recent string of losses. >> it's true, i have not been winning as of late. i have not won a state in almost three weeks because that was the plan. i didn't want to win those, so i didn't. it's time to look forward to the future and right now, my focus is here right now my focus is here in new york!
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>> snl always seems to get it right on. i would have sat on this show a year ago and said bernie sanders would chase her down the track and you never would have invited me back again. >> it is quite extraordinary, hank. from the democratic side of things, how do you look at this? >> she's losing in states where there are not large african-american voters, dominate something states voting patterns where there are lolts of young people or people disaffected. she's the anti-democrat and he's kind of the pro democrat of all times. she's in the middle. bernie sanders is on the left. in primarieprimaries, who tends out? people with greater ideological fervor. >> and he's pushing her to the left. >> the problem is she's losing among growth demographics, not just young voters, she's losing voters under the age of 40.
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some states she's losing single women who would be in the kind of mind of the conventional wisdom person a natural fwintcy for her. the democrats problem is not unity. i think if hillary does get this nomination, they will unify as a party around her. the problem is enthusiasm. and the sanders supporters consistently see that their candidate, regardless of the overperforming victories by large margins in so many states still has no legitimate chance at this nomination that, takes away an enthusiastic element that she's going to need to carry in a general election. >> to that point, they talk about us and the establishme in. t coming in and steelialing it y from trump. the super delegates is going to get her over the top. her marge sin about the establishment. >> it's a fix. the super delegates are a fix. the research is pretty clear. party ee leets tend to try to ensure that their candidate becomes the nominee. that is always the case. larger point, she's not doing well with white men, white men can decide this election.
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it's the nixon map of 1968, southern protestants, north catholics. they are white blue collar working class people living in the midwest who are very angry and with trump in many ways and who may turn the tide in this election. >> that's great point. >> you bring up an earlier question. sanders still having an effect on this election on hillary certainly bringing her more to the left on trade, on the keystone pipeline. she came out this week against fracking. even president obama supports fracking. bernie sanders, many believe, single-handedly got the treasury department to implement this past week the new rules that stop the pfizer kind of inversion merger by writing the letter. this guy is truly impacting the public policy debate today. >> i that i is really smart. you're right. >> both parties have become not pro business, always republican. but anti-trade, anti-international. i mean it's really an amazing thing to me. and it's -- i hope my party gets
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back on track again. right now, it's -- >> hill i have against ttp. >> this world is picking and it's like a menu in the world. you pick what the poll tells you to do and do you that and you hope the voters respond. >> the difference is nobody wants either one of these people on the menu. >> that's true. that's true. >> what do you think about the way luis answer med when i said do you have a plan b in terms of, you know, we don't know where this fbi investigation is going. what about plan b? bernie sanders people have to be upset that he keeps winning the popular vote and she comes up with all the delegates. >> i'm not an attorney. i will say that hillary's statements almost outlandishly saying there is no way this investigation is going to result in anything. how does she know? is she getting information that majority of the public -- i mean she is under two criminal investigations by the fbi and into her conducts. yet, she talks about it as if it's some sort of nonevent.
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>> right. >> it really does raise the question, is the fix really in on that? >> it's clear that party has come together with this understanding that the talking point is she's not under investigation, it's her server. >> right. >> it's a right-wing conspiracy. >> somebody better get that server quick. >> the objects are not the subject of the investigation. >> the world of pundits and media are not interested in that anymore. they're interested in the horse race. though matters don't matter and real analysis of what they're saying doesn't matter either. it's the horse race. it's the delegate count. it's what happens on a daily basis. >> are you surprised that trump is getting a women vote in new york? >> he's still down ten points for men. this is his turf. >> we take a short break. one thing to watch in the week ahead on "sunday morning futures" from our panel next.
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back with the panel. everyone is watching new york, that is the upcoming contest. where do they go now? >> pennsylvania will be critical. that is a jump ball for all
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three republicans. they're awe kind of close together. that's what i'm looking at. >> all right. we leave it there. tony, great to see you. hank, good to see you. ed rollins, thank you, gentlemen. i'll see you tomorrow on the fox business network 6:00 to 9:00 a.m. eastern. join us. back in a moment on fox. on our buzz meter, the campaign runs smack into the new york press corps as donald trump tries to bounce back in his home state after losing wisconsin. and ted cruz gets a bronx cheer. >> you know, lying ted cruz came today. he couldn't draw 100 people. do you remember during the debate when he started lecturing me on new york values, like we're no good. >> ted, this obviously was said. we know what you meant. new yorkers are taking it a different way. deal with it head on. when you saw this, what did you make of that? >> i laughed out loud. i have never been popular with left wing journalists or tabloids. and,


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