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for the rest of the week a really good lineup. again, thanks for watching us tonight. i am bill o'reilly. we hope you have a great weekend. and please remember the spin stops right here, because we are definitely looking out for you. breaking tonight. republican front-runner donald trump going after political elites his opponents, and the entire election system in a way we have not seen before. welcome to "the kelly file," everyone. i'm megyn kelly. donald trump trading the podium for the pen, writing a blistering piece in "the wall street journal," that has gotten a lot of headlines, including asking the following -- let me ask america a question how has the system been working out for you and your family? gop calling for reform of the nomination process. trump coming out swinging now in a way that some say could
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enlarge his support beyond his core base. and tonight, the rnc is responding. releasing this memo stating the rules surrounding the delegate selection process have been clearly laid out. each process is easy to understand for those willing to learn it. chris stirewalt joins us. chris, good to see you. what essentially is donald trump doing with this piece? >> so it's one thing to say that you think the system needs to be reformed because remember he's a populist. and like populist progressives they want more direct democracy. bernie sanders and donald trump agree. so that's one thing, reform the system and make it work better. that means in the future because we're almost already done with this one, that's different than what he was doing before. because what he was doing before is saying ted cruz is winning by cheating. it's cheating cheating, cheating can. what he realized, i think, or his campaign realized now that
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there is starting to be something like a campaign around him -- >> like paul manafort he knows what he's doing. >> exactly. he can probably figure out the colorado delegate apportionment process. but what trump is doing, it's going legit, saying i'm going to make a substantive argument about larger issues and talk about this, not just say that i hate ted cruz and he's a cheater, cheater, and -- >> he still is talking about the system being rigged. he's not a fan of ted cruz, we know this. nor vice versa. but it seems interesting, because everybody is looking at trump to see whether he will do the pivot and try to enlarge support. his theory about the 5th avenue he can kill -- he said shoot -- >> just maim them.
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>> the shooting said they wouldn't leave him and he's been proven right. that was all a joke but he meant my supporters are loyal to him and they're not going to leave him if he wishes out in a way they wouldn't have liked six moments ago but could be acceptable to them now. is that what he's doing? >> i think he's tried before and success. but what he understands now is that he needs the republican establishment in order to get this done. most likely scenario playing out right now is he gets to the convention in cleveland, just short. 100 short let's say or 150 short. if he comes in short, you know what he's going to need? unbound delegates to come and give him their support, because we talked about if he can't win on the first ballot it's going to be very hard for him to win. >> trump is out there saying i think i'm going to get there to 1237 by the convention. i know that they all say -- even
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ted cruz is saying he's not going to do it but donald trump is the one who has a shot. my question to you is is there a way that's not absurd that trump could do it? ted cruz would have to win everything entirely from this point forward, which he's not going to do. is there a way that's not absurd for trump to do snit >> it's substantially less absurd. you run up the score in new york district levels across the state, you take a bunch of delegates there. and for trump, it comes down to shoot the moon in california. and there's no state that has responded better where variety voters have responded better to his rhe on immigration than in california. and go to california and just crush it. there are so many delegates in california that it's conceivable, and it's not absurd that he could do it. however, you know what we've seen from ted cruz? people vote for him, and he's become better as a candidate. he has improved to some degree.
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and republicans seem to be more accepting of cruz than they were at the beginning. so i think the shape of the race is here. john kasich is strictly absurd 138 -- he'll have to reinvent the pathagareum theory to win. >> fascinating. great to see you, sir. >> you bet. >> for more reaction we put together a little panel for you. maybe you saw a little bit of it last night. new york republican voters who will vote in four days and asked them what they think of mr. trump's criticism of the nominating process. watch this. raise your hand if you think trump has a point that the system is rigged. interesting. even some non-trump supporters believe that. in the back why do you think that? >> i think it's an example that
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came out yesterday, john kasich's wife made a statement, keep supporting john kasich so we can continue to deny the nomination to trump. to me that's pretty telling. >> but that's strategy. they're arguing about whether the system as created, is rigged to deny like a non-party endorsed person which is trump's claim. >> not that it's rigged it's way too complicated and problematic. >> doesn't everyone agree on that? that's not a point of contention. >> that happens in the republican and democratic side. there's no rigging, it's just an issue of the system itself. >> go ahead. >> in some of these states been a direct effort to take the vote of the voters in the primary, donald trump is one, and they've gone around and tried to pick delegates who don't agree with the voters of their own state. >> so they can be freed up on the second vote if they get to a second vote? >> absolutely.
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>> you have a whole situation here where donald trump and all the candidates knew what the rules of the colorado convention could be. donald trump chose not to put a ground game in. whether or not he was competent, i'll let the voters decide. but he's trying to tweet his way to the presidency. >> it's not too complicated for cruz to figure out. he has a good ground game trump just hired a state director in california and trump is -- he's losing one state after another. when is he going to catch on? >> what is it about trump that they're so afraid of? >> the way i feel just like this young lady said cruz is smart enough to figure it out. it's about the delegates. trump is always saying he's going to surround himself with the best and brightest. where were the best and brightest telling him you have to talk with the delegates and
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win them? and two of his children didn't even know to change their registration so they could vote for their father in the primary. >> it shouldn't have to do anything with the delegates. this should be about the voter, voting for who they want to be the nominee. right now, if you look at it now, who is gaining, trump, bernie sanders. the voters do not want a politician. we want an outsider. overwhelmingly the country wants an outsider. i've seen this in my own town. i'm not going to use the word rigged. it's the way the system is designed it benefits the incumbents and the party bosses. i see it on the national level. i see it in my own town where i live they have a caucus. if somebody wants to get in we have 7,000 registered republicans in my town. 200 people show up to the caucus. >> here's my question. they're not going to change the rules midway through. but the question is whether this is going to motivate trump supporters like nothing else. they're going to come out in
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droves now in the remaining elections, because they're more motivated ever to make their voices heard. go ahead. >> the only thing that donald trump is doing is dividing america, dividing the minority groups dividing the latinos, dividing the african-americans. that's the only thing donald trump is doing. look what happened today in long island. look what happened today here in new york city. so he's not winning the minority votes. he's never going to be a president of the united states no way he's going to become president. >> in the middle of the middle. you. >> oh. how is he able to emass all of these millions and millions of votes if he's a divider? i would think he's a uniter. [ all speaking at once ] >> we're talking about the caucus that is really the close toast the people. every person in colorado that was republican was invited to go to the caucus. donald trump, it's all his own fault. he refused.
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he scheduled to go and didn't even step his toe in colorado. >> what about that? he did not go to that caucus and ted cruz did. >> they voted for delegates who were not bound. i mean that's like you give your chirp a vote what do you want to eat this food or that food they tell you and you say no, you can't have it. >> this is a forum to set up how we vote. this is the actual vote. when he doesn't win, then the forum is all wrong. >> i can see that you're a ted cruz supporter. >> when you have a baseball game whatever and both teams agree to follow the rules and one loses, it can't say oh it's not fair. they both have the same rules. >> feisty panel. more with them later. up next the rnc chairman will speak about the candidates the
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convention and what happen it is this comes down to a floor flight. plus mitt romney has been a vocal critic of donald trump. so tonight, we're speaking with mr. romney's niece about why she will be voting trump on the first ballot in cleveland. plus the president's executive order on immigration will face its biggest challenge yet on monday when the supreme court is asked to decide whether he has violated the constitution. and the lawyer fighting the white house is here tonight before his big battle. critics are fuming about a new movie they say is an attempt to revise history and change the way we look at the clarence thomas and anita hill situation. both sides tonight with an unbelievable segment. don't go away. >> it takes an expert in psychology to explain how that can happen. but it can happen.
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the republicans want to play cute with us right? if i don't make it, you're going to have millions of people that don't vote for a republican they're not going to vote at
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all. millions of people. they're very very angry and they're disenfranchised. then we have a rigged system on top of it. but despite the rigging, i think we get there before the convention. i think we do. >> that was donald trump just a few hours ago at a rally in hartford connecticut as his fight with the rnc carries on. a new fox poll shows he's widened his lead nationally standing at 45%, 18 points ahead of his closest competitor. ted cruz has lost support and hn kasich is also picking up momentum. still, the question remains will anyone actually clinch the nomination before the july convention? earlier i spoke with republican national committee chairman reince priebus about the possibility of a contested contention. everybody is looking forward to this july convention wondering what is going to happen. i understand on the first vote if trump doesn't get 1237, many of the delegates become unbound. then they move on to the third
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vote anything can happen they can go to somebody outside the three men who are now running. is that -- how would that happen? i know that's not the likeliest scenario but if they did decide okay cruz and kasich can't, trump can't, who would decide who the other potential candidate is? >> the delegates on the floor would. i think it's highly unlikely megyn, but if playing out your hypothetical if we go through 25 ballots and no one can get to the majority then the body would decide you know who the potential nominee would be. >> people just start throwing out names and if they get what like a majority of the delegates to say yeah let's get that person in? how does it work? >> whoever can get the majority of votes of the delegates on the floor is going to be the nominee of the party. i think that hypothetical is
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highly unlikely but whatever the majority on the floor decides is who the nominee is going to be. >> so some buzz could get going among the delegates, and they could say general mattis or whatever it is. between june 7 and when california votes in july the end of july when the convention happens, these candidates are allowed to woo the delegates, they can wine them dine them they can't give them cash but they can do a bunch of other stuff. so what do you think we should expect to see if no one has a clear majority as of june 7, what do you think trump is going to do with these delegates and what do you anticipate cruz will do with them? >> i have no idea megyn. here's the thing for everyone to understand. no one has been through this before. there are no experts at this process. the last time we had a multiballot convention was in 1940. i know we're filling a lot of space on television but no one really knows what to expect. >> that's got to be
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disconcerting for >> well listen it is because you always have to back down a lot of narratives. we spend a lot of time on hypotheticals that i don't think are going to be reality. i do think that the people running have the advantage. i think this sort of hypothetical of some 25th ballot thing happening is very unlikely. but we have to be ready for anything and this is something that's new for our party and we don't know whether ted cruz or donald trump can actually get to the majority before the convention, which would put all of this to rest. but we will be prepared as a party and that's my job is to be prepared and to help people understand the process -- >> you may need to have some eastern medicine introduced into your life between you and jowl. just a thought. take it or reject it at your leisure. >> you bet. >> thanks mr. chairman. great to see you. >> you bet. thank you. my next guest has pledged to
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support donald trump at the convention at least on the first ballot. rona romney mcdaniels is chairman of the michigan republican party. and yes, she is a member of that romney family. thank you for being here. so your uncle is not going to like this. does he know you're going vote for donald trump? >> i left that up to my dad to tell my uncle. that was not a phone call i wanted to make. i'm pretty sure i'm out of the will at this point. >> you're doing this as a delegate in michigan right? >> i'm actually the chair of the michigan republican party, and i recognize that on march 8, the people of michigan came out in record numbers, we has 1.3 million republicans come out in our election. it was wonderful. we want those voters engaged in the process. as an rnc delegate i chose to bind myself to the majority of the vote. ly be a trump delegate in cleveland. >> what about on the second
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ballot that's the big question with the trump delegates, will they stick by him on the second ballot if we get there? >> that's a great question. i think as chair, it's incumbent on me to show the voters i am willing to represent them in cleveland. so my intention is to stay with the voters of michigan to show them that the michigan republican party is not disenfranchising their vote. we'll see what happens in cleveland. we're not there yet, thank goodness. >> so you think trump has a point when he says what about all those people who went and voted? he's used that word that they wo disenfranchised if the delegates abandoned their order, if you will on the second ballot even though the rules allow it at that point. >> i'm in a little different role as chair of the party. i have to unify everybody. if they feel like i'm playing games, it's hard for them to trust me. there are two parts of this election, which is the candidates. they know if rules. they've been in place since october of 2015.
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but the voters don't know the rules. this is a whole new process to them. it's getting more attention than it's ever received. so in michigan we have worked very hard to be transparent, to explain to them the process, because we need them to trust us. so they'll go vote for our candidate in november. >> do you like donald trump? do you personally support his candidacy or are you not taking a position on that? >> i support any of our candidates about hillary clinton. i'm going to be supporting our nominee going into november. >> so you're in michigan. this is a state which kasich and trump kind of cut a deal. i don't want to get into the weeds because it's tough to understand. when it came to the delegate allegation they cut a deal and he got kicked off. they all were saying it was a vp play by john kasich. did you wonder whether they had a coalition, trump and kasich? >> it was more about personal
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relationships after our convention. we did have a meeting of delegates to select who was serve on the rules committee and the platform committee in cleveland. you only have two spots for each of those committees. so i'm not surprised that two of the campaigns cut a deal. and i think more of that was based on personal relationships between the delegates representing each of those candidates. >> enjoy the skiing in i guess it will be colorado next year, not utah. great to see you. >> great to see you. thank you. so we're less than 72 hours away from a critical moment in the fight over illegal immigration, as the u.s. supreme court on monday prepares to hear some 26 states argue that president obama is defying the constitution with his executive orders protecting some millions of illegal immigrants in the country right now. we have a primetime exclusive tonight with the man who will lead that argument on monday coming up. plus, as the democratic party finds itself growing further apart, can the
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file" with megyn kelly. welcome back to "the kelly file," everyone. hillary clinton and bernie sanders squared off last night. it turned out to be a debate so contentious, it's being dubbed "brawl in brooklyn." here's just a sample. >> i am sure a lot of people are very surprised to learn that you supported raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour. >> wait a minute wait a minute -- >> that's not accurate. >> i have stood on the debate stage with senator sanders eight prior times -- >> excuse me secretary -- >> secretary, the viewers -- [ crowd booing ] >> if you're both screaming at each other, the viewers won't be able to hear either of you. >> ed henry just filed this report on what came after that. ed? >> tonight, hillary clinton is far from new york she's in san
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francisco for the first of two fund-raisers with george clooney and his wife scaring up funds because bernie sanders has been outraising her big-time. sanders is even further away. he flew to the vatican, not for a meeting with pope francis. he attended a conference, what he calls a moral economy, drawing inspiration from the pope's own calls to get freed out of wall street. a gamble to go that far a few days before this critical new york primary, but maybe sanders and clinton maybe wanted to get out of dodge after a nasty brooklyn brawl that may be their final debate of this campaign. the clinton camp thinks he came across as angry and struggled with specifics on how wall street money impacted her votes in the senate. >> he cannot come up with any example, because there is no example. it is important -- it is important -- it's always important, it maybe
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inconvenient but it's always important to get the facts straight. i stood up against the behaviors against the banks when i was a senator. i called them out. >> secretary clinton called them out? oh my goodness they must have been really crushed by this. >> bottom line this race has tightened nationally. the latest poll showing clinton is only up a couple of points though a double digit lead in new york and lit take a huge effort for sanders to catch clinton. but win or lose tuesday, sanders has the money to stay in this race until the convention in july make thing a longer nastier struggle than clinton ever imagined. >> ed thank you. as the democratic candidates attack each other, does it open the door for the gop to unite and ultimately defeat the democrats come november? that's the question we presented to our panel of new york republican voters last night. so first of all, raise your hand it is you're a trump supporter.
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trump supporters could you ever get behind ted cruz? >> yes. we have to. >> is there any trump supporter who could not support ted cruz? one, boris, that's it. >> i would have a tough time. the new york values i think it was a siren call against jews and anti-semitism. remember the west wing episode -- >> come on! >> do you think it was an anti-semitic remark? >> no! >> can i say something? with what ted cruz was just saying just sort of echo this sort of parallel, i think as a new yorker what i would like other new yorkers at home that are going to vote on tuesday to remember for the last 7 1/2 years, as republicans and conservatives, we've all complained about how obama had no platform he has no policy and he's a danger to american national security. and to our infrastructure.
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he's like the enemy within, and a lot of people feel that way. on the flip side trump is literally the parallel on the right side of what obama is. he does not have he is -- >> how can you say that? >> he wants to pull out of nato. the man is a danger. ted cruz is the only one that consistently -- his entire time in the senate fought for everything that american voters asked the republicans to do. he single handedly fought for every single one of those issues. and now people are going to be blinded by celebrity and try to vote for donald trump. >> he's a first-term senator. a community organizer. [ all talking at once ] >> go. >>accomplished so much how come he's not winning? >> are you watching the same election that everybody else is watching?
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[ all talking at once ] >> go ahead. are you done? go ahead. >> the fact that you can turn around and compare obama to donald trump is ridiculous. first of all, obama, first term senator, community organizer, extremely anti-american, let's not forget reverend wright. donald trump built a business someone who has dealt with the intricacies of new york city to build skyscrapers. this is a smart man. let me tell you something, out of everyone up there -- >> you, sir. >> one of the things that's good we see the middle ground is kasich. kasich is the one who really has been battlefield tested and if they need somebody to get behind he's the one of substance. >> let me ask about that. trump and cruz people could you get behind john kasich? raise your hand if you could.
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>> no. >> not at all? okay so wait kasich people could you -- raise your hand if you could get behind donald trump. kasich people, would you get behind ted cruz. so you're open. but we didn't ask the cruz people whether they could ever get behind donald trump. raise your hand cruz people if you could get behind trump. >> at this point, it would be very difficult, but we have to. >> raise your hand if you would never do it. why? >> donald trump has absolutely no respect for women. as a republican woman, i get questioned you're too smart to be a republican why are you a republican? he has zero respect from day one, from bringing up a medical history, how he treated carly, frankly how he treated
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you, megyn, this is a disgrace. i don't understand how any republican woman could vote for donald trump. [ all talking at once ] >> they're saying would you rather have hillary? >> no to hillary. >> feisty panel. i'm going to start doing this more. coming up on monday it's the supreme court versus the commander in chief. as more than half the states in the nation suggest that president obama's executive action on immigration defies the constitution. there are some big stakes in this case on monday and the texas attorney general ken paxton is leading the charge. he's next. plus a new hbo movie revisits the anita hill and clarence thomas hearings that captivated the nation so many years ago. one former bush administration member is here, and he says this movie gives anita hill more credibility than she deserves.
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it they be one of the biggest challenges yet to president obama's legacy. on monday the u.s. supreme court will hear arguments regarding the president's executive actions on immigration, an order that would allow 4 million people here to stay. arguing that the commander in chief is trampling on the constitution, this is turning out to be much more. joining us now ken paxton. how do you like your chances on monday? >> i think we have a great case it's very clear he violated the constitution and this executive action is clearly illegal.
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>> you challenged the executive order saying he was out of bounds constitutionally. you've won, won, and won again. now you go up to the supreme court, one man down because of the death of justice scalia. how does that affect your chances? >> we're very optimistic. we won at the fifth circuit twice. >> that's a more conservative leaning court. >> yes, but we feel strongly about our chances, because this is such a strong konsconstitutional argument. >> what happen it is they said with the obama administration do the executive actions stand? >> if we lost the injunction would go away and we would have the trial on the merits. >> so if you lose it just means you'll have to have a trial? >> that's right. >> why do you think he overstepped his bounds? because the administration says prosecutorial discretion saying we don't have the resources to deport 4 million people. >> he said i can't do this
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it's up to congress for six years. >> now he says i was wrong. he says i'm not a king now he says i am a king. >> he said over 20 times he was wrong, but when he changed the law, he came out and said i changed the law, so his own words when he signed it into law -- >> will the court look at that? >> we hope they will. >> he says there's a 2012 case irz versus the united states they say this is from the court, justice kennedy writing, discretion embraces immediate human concerns. they say all they need to do is get justice kennedy to come over to the side of the liberals and use this sentence and win. >> yeah. but this isn't discretion. this is changing what congress said and doing just the opposite. this isn't prosecutorial
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call or go online and switch to x1. only with xfinity. tomorrow night, hbo will be premiering a new docudrama entitled "confirmation" and it's generating controversy. it tells the story of the
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explosive 1991 supreme court nomination and confirmation hearings of clarence thomas where anita hill 35-year-old law professor from oklahoma testified she had been sexually harassed by the nominee. at the time, the hearings stirred concontroversy about race gender and sexual harassment in the workplace. now the movie has drawn fire from some. here's a clip. watch. >> why in god's name when he left his position of power or status over you, why in god's name would you ever speak to a man like that the rest of your life? >> that's a very good question. and i am sure that i cannot answer it to your satisfaction. that is one of the things that i have tried to do here today. >> this is a circus. it's facial disgrace.
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from my standpoint as a black american as far as i'm concerned, it's a high tech lynching for upitty blacks who in any way deemed to think for themselves do for themselves, to have different ideas. >> wow. in moments, we'll be joined by susanna grant, the writer of "confirmation." and a former george h.w. bush lawyer who helped usher clarence thomas through the confirmation. mark thank you for being here. you read the script for this movie. >> that's right. >> and you didn't like it from the start. why? >> it was fundamentally dishonest. i saw an intentional effort to leave out the damaging testimony that undermined anita hill's testimony.
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>> like what, can you remember anything? >> sure. one of the things that the american people remember that she went from one job to another. she claimed she was harassed by clarence thomas and she moved to the eeoc with clarence thomas. who does that? that's in the movie, but it took three explanations why she went with him that were fundamentally false and proven false during the hearings. that's what the american people saw and that's why they believed thomas 2-1. >> do you believe she made the whole thing up? >> i do. i believe she got caught in a lie. some of her witnesses, the timetables didn't match up. >> why would she lie about it? >> i think she left her old law firm and told some friends she had been sexually harassed and it happened long before she ever worked with him. >> she wanted attention? >> she got caught in a lie and doubled down. the movie shows her -- when the
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senate committee contacts her, immediately cooperating. anita hill tried to take down clarence thomas with an anonymous complaint, her demand is that thomas not know her name. >> is that because she was her victim and didn't want to face him? >> i think she was trying to manipulate the process and take him down without having to come forward. >> how do you think these hearings -- the nation was captivated. joe biden, arlen joe biden, arlen specter played a huge role in this. >> right. >> not on miss hill's side. >> i think joe biden was. >> sorry. arlen was not. >> asking fair questions of how the story added up. >> what is your problem with the movie, other than not including the things to diminish her
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credibility. >> right. well again, an effort to rewrite the history to show she was more krezible than she was. >> why? why do that? >> to make it like she was telling the truth and clarence thomas is lying. >> stand by. we have susan that grant with us, too. she is the executive producer and writer. your thoughts on his charge there? >> well i first want to tell you i reached out to mark while i was working on this script a few times and i would have welcomed his input. i reached out to people involved in the hearings. affiliated with both of the parties. and i wanted my intention all along was to get this as truthful and as accurate as possible. i would have welcomed his input then. i'm not in the business of defending any knee that hill. she can do that herself. but i will say that there's a tremendous amount of independent documentation of these hearings done by very experienced
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journalists and you will find that the points that he brings up just don't pass muster when you really dig in to the facts. >> do you feel like you have an opinion? having written the script do you have an opinion about whether hill was telling the truth? >> you know what i figured at the absolute outset of this was that there are only two people who know what happened between those two people. and you know, who knows if they're really even clear on it? i went into this with the clear understanding i could never answer that question. that wasn't what was interesting to me. i don't think that's when's most interesting about these hearings. what i think is interesting about these hear sgs that they were a waterhead event in our collective cultural history and changed how we rer sooef women's rights in the workplace. >> one of the first times to hear about sexual harassment in the workplace. 1991. not that it wasn't happening
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it's that this shined a big spotlight on it. whether it happened in this case is a different question. but this did shine a big spotlight on that issue. >> absolutely. and the reason it was as explosive and the reason it captivated everyone's attention so much because it was an unnamed unease within so many women's experiences. this unfairness in their workplace and another thing that i really like about it there's sort of an uncredited character in the movie and that's the american citizenry. we have a lot of scenes where the phones in the senators' offices started ringing off the hook and it's the american people demanding that their representatives follow through on this. they were not going to reconvene the hearings until the american people called up and said no. this is something we really want to pay attention to. i insist that you as my
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representative pay attention to this. >> and yet -- >> and they did. i get very inspired by this. >> to what extent -- people believe after robert bork was defeated the first time the process turned political. used to be qualified judge, good judge, you got on the bench. scalia got on there 98-0 even though they knew he was a conservative. his judicial philosophy wasn't a secret and with robert bork it started to change and the republicans felt it's a continuation of that and doing it to another nominee. is that political angle well covered? >> i hope so. it's certainly -- i hope you'll see the movie and see that's actually how we start with the complete politicization of the confirmation process and obviously that was a huge factor in this -- in the whole process. >> they felt that -- >> i'm very interested in the clash of the profoundly
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political and intensely personal that this dramatized. >> well i mean the acting looks spectacular. the clip alone is intriguing. thank you. you're here. did you want to say something? >> sure n. a couple years later, anita hill goes on television and defends bill clinton against assault charges in 1998. >> uh-huh. fascinating. i think we have piqued the audience's curiosity. thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back. n behind. with the agressive new 2016 lexus gs 350 and 200 turbo. once driven, there's no going back. if you're running a business legalzoom has your back. over the last 10 years we've helped one million business owners get started. visit legalzoom today for the legal help you need to start and run your business. legalzoom. legal help is here. here's the plan. you want a family and a career, but most of the time you feel like you're trying to wrangle a hurricane. the rest of the time, they're asleep. then one day, hr schedules a meeting with you out of the blue. and it's the worst 19 minutes of your career.
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