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really good lineup. again, thanks for watching us tonight. i am bill o'reilly. we hope you have a great weekend. and please remember, the spin l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l . breaking tonight. republican front-runner donald trump going after political elites, his opponents, and the entire election system in a way we have not seen before. welcome to "the kelly file," everyone. i'm megyn kelly. donald trump trading the podium for the pen, writing a blistering piece in "the wall street journal," that has gotten a lot of headlines, including asking the following -- let me ask america a question, how has the system been working out for you and your family? g calling for reform of the nomination process. trump coming out swinging now in a way that some say could
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enlarge his support beyond his core base. and tonight, the rnc is responding. releasing this memo stating the rules surrounding the delegate selection process have been clearly laid out. each process is easy to understand for those willing to learn it. chris stirewalt joins us. chris, good to see you. what essentially is donald trump doing with this piece? >> so it's one thing to say that you think the system needs to be reformed, because remember, he's a populist. and like populist progressives, they want more direct democracy. bernie sanders and donald trump agree. so that's one thing, reform the system and make it work better. that means in the future, because we're almost already done with this one, that's different than what he was doing before. because what he was doing before is saying ted cruz is winning by cheating. it's cheating, cheating, cheating can. what he realized, i think, or his campaign realized, now that
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there is starting to be something like a campaign around him -- >> like paul manafort, he knows what he's doing. >> exactly. he can probably figure out the colorado delegate apportionment process. but what trump is doing, it's going legit, saying i'm going to make a substantive argument about larger issues and talk about this, not just say that i hate ted cruz and he's a cheater, cheater, and -- >> he still is talking about the system being rigged. he's not a fan of ted cruz, we know this. nor vice versa. but it seems interesting, because everybody is looking at trump to see whether he will do the pivot and try to enlarge support. his theory about the 5th avenue, he can kill -- he said shoot -- >> just maim them.
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>> the shooting said they wouldn't leave him and he's been proven right. that was all a joke, but he meant my supporters are loyal to him and they're not going to leave him if he wishes out in a way they wouldn't have liked six moments ago but could be acceptable to them now. is that what he's doing? >> i think he's tried before and had limited success. but what he understands now is that he needs the republican establishment in order to get this done. most likely scenario playing out right now is he gets to the convention in cleveland, just short. 100 short let's say or 150 short. if he comes in short, you know what he's going to need? unbound delegates to come and give him their support, because we talked about if he can't win on the first ballot, it's going to be very hard for him to win. >> trump is out there saying i think i'm going to get there to 1237 by the convention. i know that they all say -- even
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ted cruz is saying he's not going to do it, but donald trump is the one who has a shot. my question to you is, is there a way that's not absurd that trump could do it? ted cruz would have to win everything entirely from this point forward, which he's not going to do. is there a way that's not absurd for trump to do snit >> it's substantially less absurd. you run up the score in new york, district levels, across the state, you take a bunch of delegates there. and for trump, it comes down to shoot the moon in california. and there's no state that has responded better where variety voters have responded better to his rhetoric on immigration than in california. and go to california and just crush it. there are so many delegates in california that it's conceivable, and it's not absurd that he could do it. however, you know what we've seen from ted cruz? people vote for him, and he's become better as a candidate. he has improved to some degree.
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and republicans seem to be more accepting of cruz than they were at the beginning. so i think the shape of the race is here. john kasich is strictly absurd, 138 -- he'll have to reinvent the pathagareum theory to win. >> fascinating. great to see you, sir. >> you bet. >> for more reaction, we put together a little panel for you. maybe you little bit of it last night. new york republican voters who will vote in four days and asked them what they think of mr. trump's criticism of the nominating process. watch this. raise your hand if you think trump has a point that the system is rigged. interesting. even some non-trump supporters believe that. in the back, why do you think that? >> i think it's an example that
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came out yesterday, john kasich's wife made a statement, keep supporting john kasich so we can continue to deny the nomination to trump. to me, that's pretty telling. >> but that's strategy. they're arguing about whether the system, as created, is rigged to deny like a non-party endorsed person, which is trump's claim. >> not that it's rigged, it's way too complicated and problematic. >> doesn't everyone agree on that? that's not a point of contention. >> that happens in the republican and democratic side. there's no rigging, it's just an issue of the system itself. >> go ahead. >> in some of these states, there's been a direct effort to take the vote of the voters in the primary, donald trump is one, and they've gone around and tried to pick delegates who don't agree with the voters of their own state. >> so they can be freed up on the second vote if they get to a second vote? >> absolutely.
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>> you have a whole situation here where donald trump and all the candidates knew what the rules of the colorado convention could be. donald trump chose not to put a ground game in. whether or not he was competent, i'll let the voters decide. but he's trying to tweet his way to the presidency. >> it's not too complicated for cruz to figure out. he has a good ground game, trump just hired a state director in california, and trump is -- he's losing one state after another. when is he going to catch on? >> what is it about trump that they're so afraid of? >> the way i feel, just like this young lady said, cruz is smart enough to figure it out. it's about the delegates. trump is always saying he's going to surround himself with the best and brightest. where were the best and brightest telling him you have
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to talk with the delegates and win them? and two of his children didn't even know to change their registration so they could vote for their father in the primary. >> it shouldn't have to do anything with the delegates. this should be about the voter, voting for who they want to be the nominee. right now, if you look at it now, who is gaining, trump, bernie sanders. the voters do not want a politician. we want an outsider. overwhelmingly, the country wants an outsider. i've seen this in my own town. i'm not going to use the word rigged. it's the way the system is designed, it benefits the incumbents and the party bosses. i see it on the national level. i see it in my own town where i live, they have a caucus. if somebody wants to get in, we have 7,000 registered republicans in my town. 200 people show up to the caucus. >> here's my question. they're not going to change the rules midway through. but the question is whether this is going to motivate trump supporters like nothing else.
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they're going to come out in droves now in the remaining elections, because they're more motivated ever to make their voices heard. go ahead. >> the only thing that donald trump is doing is dividing america, dividing the minority groups, dividing the latinos, dividing the african-americans. that's the only thing donald trump is doing. look what happened today in long island. look what happened today here in new york city. so he's not winning the minority votes. he's never going to be a president of the united states, no way he's going to become president. >> in the middle of the middle. you. >> oh. how is he able to emass all of these millions and millions of votes if he's a divider? i would think he's a uniter. [ all speaking at once ] >> we're talking about the caucus that is really the close toast the people. every person in colorado that was republican was invited to go to the caucus. donald trump, it's all his own fault. he refused.
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he scheduled to go and didn't even step his toe in colorado. >> what about that? he did not go to that caucus and ted cruz did. >> they voted for delegates who were not bound. i mean, that's like you give your chirp a vote, what do you want to eat this food or that food, they tell you and you say no, you can't have it. >> this is a forum to set up how we vote. this is the actual vote. when he doesn't win, then the forum is all wrong. >> i can see that you're a ted cruz supporter. >> when you have a baseball game, whatever, and both teams agree to follow the rules and one loses, it can't say oh, it's not fair. they both have the same rules. >> feisty panel. more with them later. up next, the rnc chairman will
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speak about the candidates, the convention, and what happen it is this comes down to a floor flight. plus, mitt romney has been a vocal critic of donald trump. so tonight, we're speaking with mr. romney's niece about why she will be voting trump on the first ballot in cleveland. plus, the president's executive order on immigration will face its biggest challenge yet on monday when the supreme court is asked to decide whether he has violated the constitution. and the lawyer fighting the white house is here tonight before his big battle. critics are fuming about a new movie they say is an attempt to revise history and change the way we look at the clarence thomas and anita hill situation. both sides tonight with an unbelievable segment. don't go away. >> it takes an expert in psychology to explain how that can happen. but it can happen.
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all. millions of people. they're very, very angry and they're disenfranchised. then we have a rigged system on top of it. but despite the rigging, i think we get there before the convention. i think we do. >> that was donald trump just a few hours ago at a rally in hartford, connecticut as his fight with the rnc carries on. a new fox poll shows he's widened his lead nationally, standing at 45%, 18 points ahead of his closest competitor. ted cruz has lost support and john kasich is also picking up momentum. still, the question remains will anyone actually clinch the nomination before the july convention? earlier i spoke with republican national committee chairman reince priebus about the possibility of a contested contention. everybody is looking forward to this july convention, wondering what is going to happen. i understand on the first vote, if trump doesn't get 1237, many of the delegates become unbound.
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then they move on to the third vote, anything can happen, they can go to somebody outside the three men who are now running. is that -- how would that happen? i know that's not the likeliest scenario, but if they did decide okay, cruz and kasich can't, trump can't, who would decide who the other potential candidate is? >> the delegates on the floor would. i think it's highly unlikely, megyn, but if playing out your hypothetical, if we go through 25 ballots and no one can get to the majority, then the body would decide, you know, who the potential nominee would be. >> people just start throwing out names and if they get what, like a majority of the delegates to say yeah, let's get that person in? how does it work? >> whoever can get the majority of votes of the delegates on the floor is going to be the nominee of the party. i think that hypothetical is
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highly unlikely, but whatever the majority on the floor decides is who the nominee is going to be. >> so some buzz could get going among the delegates, and they could say general mattis, or whatever it is. between june 7 and when california votes in july, the end of july when the convention happens, these candidates are allowed to woo the delegates, they can wine them, dine them, they can't give them cash, but they can do a bunch of other stuff. so what do you think we should expect to see if no one has a clear majority as of june 7, what do you think trump is going to do with these delegates and what do you anticipate cruz will do with them? >> i have no idea, megyn. here's the thing for everyone to understand. no one has been through this before. there are no experts at this process. the last time we had a multiballot convention was in 1940. i know we're filling a lot of space on television, but no one really knows what to expect.
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>> that's got to be disconcerting for you. >> well, listen, it is, because you always have to back down a lot of narratives. we spend a lot of time on hypotheticals that i don't think are going to be reality. i do think that the people running have the advantage. i think this sort of hypothetical of some 25th ballot thing happening is very unlikely. but we have to be ready for anything, and this is something that's new for our party and we don't know whether ted cruz or donald trump can actually get to the majority before the convention, which would put all of this to rest. but we will be prepared as a party and that's my job is to be prepared and to help people understand the process -- >> you may need to have some eastern medicine introduced into your life between you and jowl. just a thought. take it or reject it at your leisure. >> you bet. >> thanks, mr. chairman. great to see you. >> you bet.
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thank you. my next guest has pledged to support donald trump at the convention, at least on the first ballot. rona romney mcdaniels is chairman of the michigan republican party. and yes, she is a member of that romney family. thank you for being here. so your uncle is not going to like this. does he know you're going vote for donald trump? >> i left that up to my dad to tell my uncle. that was not a phone call i wanted to make. i'm pretty sure i'm out of the will at this point. >> you're doing this as a delegate in michigan, right? >> i'm actually the chair of the michigan republican party, and i recognize that on march 8, the people of michigan came out in record numbers, we has 1.3 million republicans come out in our election. it was wonderful. we want those voters engaged in the process. as an rnc delegate, i chose to bind myself to the majority of the vote. ly be a trump delegate in
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cleveland. >> what about on the second ballot, that's the big question with the trump delegates, will they stick by him on the second ballot if we get there? >> that's a great question. i think as chair, it's incumbent on me to show the voters i am willing to represent them in cleveland. so my intention is to stay with the voters of michigan, to show them that the michigan republican party is not disenfranchising their vote. we'll see what happens in cleveland. we're not there yet, thank goodness. >> so you think trump has a point when he says what about all those people who went and voted? he's used that word, that they would be disenfranchised if the delegates abandoned their order, if you will, on the second ballot, even though the rules allow it at that point. >> i'm in a little different role as chair of the party. i have to unify everybody. if they feel like i'm playing games, it's hard for them to trust me. there are two parts of this election, which is the candidates. they know if rules.
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they've been in place since october of 2015. but the voters don't know the rules. this is a whole new process to them. it's getting more attention than it's ever received. so in michigan, we have worked very hard to be transparent, to explain to them the process, because we need them to trust us. so they'll go vote for our candidate in november. >> do you like donald trump? do you personally support his candidacy or are you not taking a position on that? >> i support any of our candidates about hillary clinton. i'm going to be supporting our nominee going into november. >> so you're in michigan. this is a state which kasich and trump kind of cut a deal. i don't want to get into the weeds because it's tough to understand. when it came to the delegate allegation, they cut a deal and he got kicked off. they all were saying it was a vp play by john kasich. did you wonder whether they had a coalition, trump and kasich?
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>> it was more about personal relationships after our convention. we did have a meeting of delegates to select who was serve on the rules committee and the platform committee in cleveland. you only have two spots for each of those committees. so i'm not surprised that two of the campaigns cut a deal. and i think more of that was based on personal relationships between the delegates representing each of those candidates. >> enjoy the skiing in i guess it will be colorado next year, not utah. great to see you. >> great to see you. thank you. so we're less than 72 hours away from a critical moment in the fight over illegal immigration, as the u.s. supreme court on monday, prepares to hear some 26 states argue that president obama is defying the constitution with his executive orders protecting some millions of illegal i the country right now. we have a primetime exclusive tonight with the man who will lead that argument on monday coming up. plus, as the democratic party finds itself growing
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of fox news, it's "the kelly file" with megyn kelly. welcome back to "the kelly file," everyone. hillary clinton and bernie sanders squared off last night. it turned out to be a debate so contentious, it's being dubbed "brawl in brooklyn." here's just a sample. >> i am sure a lot of people are very surprised to learn that you supported raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour. >> wait a minute, wait a minute -- >> that's not accurate. >> i have stood on the debate stage with senator sanders eight prior times -- >> excuse me, secretary -- >> secretary, the viewers -- [ crowd booing ] >> if you're both screaming at each other, the viewers won't be able to hear either of you. >> ed henry just filed this report on what came after that. ed? >> tonight, hillary clinton is
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far from new york, she's in san francisco for the first of two fund-raisers with george clooney and his wife, scaring up funds because bernie sanders has been outraising her big-time. sanders is even further away. he flew to the vatican, not for a meeting with pope francis. he attended a conference, what he calls a moral economy, drawing inspiration from the pope's own calls to get freed out of wall street. a gamble to go that far a few days before this critical new york primary, but maybe sanders and clinton maybe wanted to get out of dodge after a nasty brooklyn brawl that may be their final debate of this campaign. the clinton camp thinks he came across as angry and struggled with specifics on how wall street money impacted her votes in the senate. >> he cannot come up with any example, because there is no example. it is important -- it is important -- it's always
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important, it maybe inconvenient, but it's always important to get the facts straight. i stood up against the behaviors against the banks when i was a senator. i called them out. >> secretary clinton called them out? oh, my goodness, they must have been really crushed by this. >> bottom line, this race has tightened nationally. the latest poll showing clinton is only up a couple of points, though a double digit lead in new york and lit take a huge effort for sanders to catch clinton. but win or lose tuesday, sanders has the money to stay in this race until the convention in july, make thing a longer, nastier struggle than clinton ever imagined. >> ed, thank you. as the democratic candidates attack each other, does it open the dr for the gop to unite and ultimately defeat the democrats come november? that's the question we presented to our panel of new york republican voters last night. so first of all, raise your hand it is you're a trump supporter.
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trump supporters, could you ever get behind ted cruz? >> yes. we have to. >> is there any trump supporter who could not support ted cruz? one, boris, that's it. >> i would have a tough time. the new york values, i think it was a siren call against jews and anti-semitism. remember the west wing episode -- >> come on! >> do you think it was an anti-semitic remark? >> no! >> can i say something? with what ted cruz was just saying, just sort of echo this sort of parallel, i think as a new yorker, what i would like other new yorkers at home that are going to vote on tuesday to remember, for the last 7 1/2 years, as republicans and conservatives, we've all complained about how obama had no platform, he has no policy, and he's a danger to american
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national security. and to our infrastructure. he's like the enemy within, and a lot of people feel that way. on the flip side, trump is literally the parallel on the right side of what obama is. he does not have policy. he is -- >> how can you say that? >> he wants to pull out of nato. the man is a danger. ted cruz is the only one that consistently -- his entire time in the senate, fought for everything that american voters asked the republicans to do. he single handedly fought for every single one of those issues. and now people are going to be blinded by celebrity and try to vote for donald trump. >> he's a first-term senator. a community organizer. [ all talking at once ] >> go. >>accomplished so much, how come he's not winning?
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>> are you watching the same election that everybody else is watching? [ all talking at once ] >> go ahead. are you done? go ahead. >> the fact that you can turn around and compare obama to donald trump is ridiculous. first of all, obama, first term senator, community organizer, extremely anti-american, let's not forget reverend wright. donald trump built a business, someone who has dealt with the intricacies of new york city to build skyscrapers. this is a smart man. let me tell you something, out of everyone up there -- >> you, sir. >> one of the things that's good, we see the middle ground is kasich. kasich is the one who really has been battlefield tested and if they need somebody to get behind, he's the one of substance. >> let me ask about that. trump and cruz people, could you
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get behind john kasich? raise your hand if you could. >> no. >> not at all? okay, so wait, kasich people, could you -- raise your hand if you could get behind donald trump. kasich people, would you get behind ted cruz. so you're open. but we didn't ask the cruz people whether they could ever get behind donald trump. raise your hand, cruz people, if you could get behind trump. >> at this point, it would be very difficult, but we have to. >> raise your hand if you would never do it. why? >> donald trump has absolutely no respect for women. as a republican woman, i get questioned, you're too smart to be a republican, why are you a republican? he has zero respect from day one, from bringing up a spouse's
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medical history, how he treated carly, frankly how he treated you, megyn, this is a disgrace. i don't understand how any republican woman could vote for donald trump. [ all talking at once ] >> they're saying would you rather have hillary? >> no to hillary. >> feisty panel. i'm going to start doing this more. coming up on monday, it's the supreme court versus the commander in chief. as more than half the states in the nation suggest that president obama's executive action on immigration defies the constitution. there are some big stakes in this case on monday and the texas attorney general ken paxton is leading the charge. he's next. plus, a new hbo movie revisits the anita hill and clarence thomas hearings, that captivated the nation so many years ago. one former bush administration member is here, and he says this
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it they be one of the biggest challenges yet to president obama's legacy. on monday, the u.s. supreme court will hear arguments regarding the president's executive actions on immigration, an order that would allow 4 million people here to stay. arguing that the commander in chief is trampling on the constitution, this is turning out to be much more. joining us now, ken paxton. how do you like your chances on monday? >> i think we have a great case, it's very clear he violated the constitution and this executive
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action is clearly illegal. >> you challenged the executive order saying he was out of bounds constitutionally. you've won, won, and won again. now you go up to the supreme court, one man down because of the death of justice scalia. how does that affect your chances? >> we're very optimistic. we won at the fifth circuit twice. >> that's a more conservative leaning court. >> yes, but we feel strongly about our chances, because this is such a strong koconstitution argument. >> what happen it is they said with the obama administration, do the executive actions stand? >> if we lost, the injunction would go away and we would have the trial on the merits. >> so if you lose, it just means you'll have to have a trial? >> that's right. >> why do you think he overstepped his bounds? because the administration says prosecutorial discretion, saying we don't have the resources to
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deport 4 million people. >> he said, i can't do it's up to congress for six years. >> now he says, i was wrong. he says i'm not a king, now he says i am a king. >> he said over 20 times he was wrong, but when he changed the law, he came out and said, i changed the law, so his own words when he signed it into law -- >> will the court look at that? >> we hope they will. >> he says there's a 2012 case, irz versus the united states, they say this is from the court, justice kennedy writing, discretion embraces immediate human concerns. they say all they need to do is get justice kennedy to come over to the side of the liberals, and use this sentence and win. >> yeah. but this isn't discretion. this is changing what congress
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said and doing just the opposite. this isn't prosecutorial discretion, this is clearly changing law in a major way, it's not tweaking. >> are you predicting victory? >> we're very encouraged. and next, the executive producer and writer of the new hwo movie "confirmation" is here to talk about politics, gender and race that captivated the nation 25 years ago. >> is there any basis for it? >> none. she worked for me. i treated her the same way i treat other people. >> why is she saying this? >> i don't know. how can i answer that? someone lies about me, how am i supposed to know why?
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hbo is airing a new docu drama that tells the story of the exclusive nomination and confirmation hearings of clarence thomas where anita hill testified she had been sexually harassed by the nominee. it stirred controversy against race, gender and the work place. here is a clip. watch. >> why in god's game would you
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let his position of power or status or authority over you? why in god's name would you ever speak to a man like that the rest of your life? >> very good question. i am sure that i cannot answer it to your satisfaction. that is one of the things i have tried to do here today. >> this is a circus. it's a national disgrace. from my standpoint, it's a black american, as far as i'm concerned it's a high-tech lynching. who, in any way, to think for themselves do for themselves.
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>> we'll are joined by susanna grant, producer and writer of "confirmation". and a former george hw bush lawyer, mark, good to see you. >> thank you. >> so you read this script for this movie. >> i saw efforts to leave out this damaging testimony that undermined anita hill's testimony. >> like what? can you remember anything? >> one of the things american people remembered she went from one job to another, she claimed she was harassed to the department of education, and then moved to eeoc with clarence thomas, who does that? but the explanation is during the hearing. that is why they determined at
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the end they trusted clarence thomas and believed him 2-1. >> do you think she made it up? >> i do believe she made it up and got caught in a lie. and some of her witnesses, i do believe she told a lie. >> why would she lie about it? >> she left her old law firm and told her friends she had been sexually harassed. >> and what do you think? she wanted attention? >> i think she got caught in a lie and doubled down. and again, the movie shows her when the senate committee contacts her, and tried to take on clarence thomas's anonymous complaint without her demand that thomas not know her name. >> do you think that could be because she's his victim and didn't want to face him? that is another explanation. >> i think she was trying to nan
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nip late the process. >> how do you think these hearings -- because the nation was captivated at the time. joe biden, spector played a huge role in this, and they were not exactly on ms. hill's side -- sorry, arlen spector was not on her side, so what is your problem with the movie, the things that could diminish her credibility? >> they are rewriting history to show that anita hill was more credible than she was. >> why would they do that? >> because they wanted to make it look like she had credibility. and he did not. >> susanna grant is standing by.
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>> i would have welcomed the input. i reached out to as many people as i possibly could who were involved in the hearings, affiliated with both of the parties, and my intentional along was to get this as truthful and accurate as possible. i really would have welcomed his input then. i will say look, i'm not in the business of defending anita hill. she can do that herself. but i will say that there is a tremendous amount of independent documentation of these hearings done by very experienced journalists, and you will find that points that he brings up just don't pass muster when you really dig into the facts. >> do you feel like you have an opinion, having written the script and made the movie do you have an opinion about whether or not anita hill was telling the truth? >> you know, megyn, what i figured out at the absolute outset of this, there were only two people who know what
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happened between those two people. and you know, who knows if they're ever really even clear on it. so i went into the with the clear understanding that i could never answer that question. that was not interesting to me, i don't think that is what is most interesting about these hearings. what i think is most interesting about these hearings is that they were a watershed event of our cultural history, they completely changed how we perceive and talk about women's rights in the work place. >> and the first time we heard about the sexual harassment in the work place, it wasn't that it didn't happen, whether or not it happened in this case this did shed a big spotlight on that issue. >> absolutely, and the reason it was as explosive, and the reason it captivated everyone's attention so much was because it was sort of this unnamed unease within so many women's
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experiences, this unfairness in their work place. and another thing that i really like about it. there is sort of an uncredited character in the movie. and that is the american citizenry. we have a lot of scenes where the phones in the senators' offices start ringing off the hook and it's the american people demanding that their representatives follow through on this. they're not going to reconvene the hearings until the american people called up and said no, this is something we really want to pay attention to. i insist that you as my representative pay attention to this. and -- and at tthey did, and i inspired by that. >> and question to you, people believe that after robert bourke was defeated and that was the first time that this process turned political. used to be if you were a qualified judge, scalia got on there, they knew he was a conservative. his judicial philosophy was not
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a secret. and robert bourke decided to change, and they felt they were doing it to another nominee, is that political angle well covered? >> i hope so. i hope you will see the movie and you will see that that is actually how we start the movie with the complete politicalization of the confirmation process. and obviously, that was a huge factor in the whole process. and i'm very interested in the clash of the profoundly political and intensely personal that this dramatized. >> well, the acting looks spectacular, the clip alone is very intriguing. mark, you're still here, did you want to say something? >> sure, i find it interesting a couple of years later, anita hill goes on television and defends bill clinton against assault charges in 1998. >> fascinating, i think we
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