tv Special Report With Bret Baier FOX News April 26, 2016 3:00pm-4:01pm PDT
they're so tasty. >> dana and juan will join megyn kelly and bret baier, we'll be back at midnight for a special edition of "the five." a quinn at the time of presidential primaries could all but lock up the democratic nomination for hillary clinton and keep donald trump on a collision course with the republican establishment. in the fight for delegates. and a place at the top of the ticket this is a fox news alert. ite bret baier. >> hi, everybody, i'm megyn kelly. we're coming to you tonight from america's election headquarters, live in new york. over the next -- four hours -- >> four hours? >> there's a lot of news, we will bring you all the news from today's big primaries happening right now, as well as exit polls, analysis and where the delegate counts stand up to the minute. >> we also have reporters on the ground, spread out across the northeast corridor. carl cameron is covering the gop
front-runner from trump tower in new york. and ed henry is at the hillary clinton convention headquarters and molly lion in pennsylvania and jays rosen is in maryland. >> let's start off with what the exit polls are telling us so far. martha mccallum is here to break it down for us. >> we're talking with voters tonight in three of the five states as they leave the polling places. we've got connecticut, maryland and pennsylvania polls this evening. people are still out there voting. an early look at what they're telling us. first up, republicans, this week kasich and cruz announced an alliance to try to keep donald trump from getting to the 1237 delegate number. we're going to be seeing if that made a difference in any of the votes this evening. late deciders, those who decided in the past week, leaning towards governor john kasich. here's connecticut, these
numbers are also pretty tight with him, towards the front in pennsylvania and in maryland as well. plus, about a quarter say that their vote was mainly against the other candidates, rather than in support of anyone in particular. cruz and kasich voters are much more likely to say that their vote was placed against another candidate. look at the numbers, connecticut 24%, 25% say it in maryland in pennsylvania, it's 18%. almost all of the trump supporters new york city big surprise here, say that they placed their vote in favor of their candidate. donald trump. so that's said, about one in four republicans say they would not vote for donald trump if he ends up being the nominee. when you look at group of people who are nontrump supporters, those voting for kasich or cruz, more than half of them say that they would not place a vote for donald trump. to the contested convention, republicans believe if nobody hits 1237, the party should nominate the candidate who has
the most votes in the primary. 66% feel that way in maryland. about the same in connecticut. and pennsylvania as well. more than 9 in 10 of trump voters say that they firmly believe that the gop should nominate the person who comes into that convention with the most votes. not necessarily a majority, 1237, but the most votes. while about half of the nontrump voters say the opposite. they say let the delegates decide. on the democratic side, as usual, sanders is doing well as he does in all of these contests so far, with young people and very well with independents as well. black voters, seniors, breaking for hillary clinton this evening in the early going and the numbers that we've got, large majorities in each state say if push came to shove, they would vote for either hillary clinton or bernie sanders as the nominee. they are pretty happy with most choices, most think it's clinton who has the best chance to defeat clump if he becomes the
nominee. back to you. >> well for donald trump, a big night tonight, keeps him mathematically alive to win the nomination outright before the convention. and thereby side-step what could be a nightmare scenario for him in which he loses on a second or third ballot in cleveland. chief political correspondent carl cameron is in trump tower right now. >> trump is trying to keep his momentum rolling. five states with 118 bound pledged delegates available. for the winner across the board and trump is looking to get between 90-95, a big number. in addition there are 54 unbound delegates, unpledged delegates out of pennsylvania. he's eyeing somewhere in the neighborhood of two-thirds of that. if he pulls it off, he can clinch the nomination. before he has to go to cleveland and the actual convention. trump is looking to sweep all
five east coast states, but still complains that the process is crooked. >> it's a scam, it's a rigged system. >> promises by trump's new campaign bosses that he would clean up his act after last week's new york landslide have not been realized. this was last night in wilkes bri berry. >> here's a guy who says i'm going to stay, like if you have a child who is a spoiled brat. where they go -- i don't care, daddy. get out of the room, daddy. >> trump's restored power to campaign manager cory lewandoski after his recently hired adviser paul manafort was recorded suggesting to rnc officials that trump will be more presidential. senator ted cruz attributes trump's advantages in today's east coast voting states to shared liberalism. >> they tend to be more on the liberal side of the spectrum. he may have a good night. right after tomorrow the race is going to shift back west and as it shifts back west there are a lot of states that i think are
going to be very good. >> particularly indiana next week, a must-win to stop trump. cruz slammed trump for his criticism of carrier air conditioners, located in indiana for planning to move jobs overseas where regulatory costs are lower. >> donald says i'm going to punish carrier, i'm going to use the force of the federal government to punish any company that flees the regulations of the federal government. that's exactly what barack obama says, it's exactly what hillary clinton says. that's what big government liberal does. >> cruz says he'll implement policies to encourage manufacturers to return to the u.s. not punish them. >> the kasich/cruz alliance to try to stop trump in indiana, new mexico and oregon is still very much in play. it could be expanded to include california. in the meantime. kasich is being accuse of dissolving the alliance almost immediately because he refuses to urge indiana voters to vote only for cruz. he says he won't campaign there, he won't spend money and
resources, just as cruz won't in new mexico and oregon, he refuses to be the candidate to urge voters to vote for somebody else and he's getting badgered by reporters for it. >> carl cameron, just around the block at trump tower. hillary clinton is hoping to virtually seal up the democratic nomination tonight. chief white house correspondent ed henry is at clinton headquarters in philadelphia right now. >> megan, good evening. the good news for hillary clinton is she's coming to philadelphia with the nomination, all but hers, the bad news, bernie sanders is showing almost no sign that he's willing to work and help elect her in november. >> hillary clinton is so confident of victories in the five eastern states that today she jumped ahead to indiana. which votes next tuesday. to show it's full speed ahead. >> as president i will go to bat for all of our trades. for our steel workers, our iron workers, everyone who is absolutely looking for that kind of champion.
>> while it was perhaps one last stand for bernie sanders. campaigning here in philadelphia, at the redding market. >> sanders bristled at questions about whether he's going to drop out. vowed to fight on to california on june 7th and chafed at clinton boasting last night on an msnbc town hall that she's wrapping this up. >> well -- >> sanders was reacting to clinton being defensive about her lead, even though she's winning. >> but i am ahead and let's start from that premise. while we talk about what happens next, okay? >> clinton seemed to lose her cool. as rachel maddow tried to ask whether she would press sanders to get out of the race if he's clearly behind after california. >> if you're ahead in the vote, if you're ahead in delegates. >> i am ahead in the vote. i am way ahead in the vote. >> look, i have the greatest respect for senator sanders, but
really what he and his supporters are now saying -- just doesn't add up. i have 2.7 million more votes than he has. i have more than 250 more pledged delegates. >> that came after sanders blew off a question about whether he'll get his supporters to rally around clinton, if she's the nominee. putting the onus back on her. >> we're not in a movement where i can snap my fingers and say to you or anybody else, what you should do. and if secretary clinton wins, it's incumbent upon her to tell millions of people who right now do not believe in establishment politics -- >> now the tension continued late today when the sanders camp put out a harsh fundraising letter, showing clintoned a donald trump's wedding and charging that the clinton camp has been using language to attack sanders that's normally reserved for quote traitors. tough stuff, megan.
>> what do you make of what's happening tonight. the five primaries in which donald trump looks well positioned. the cruz camp, kasich camp says you've got to look beyond tonight this thing is not over. your thoughts? >> well, that's true. even if there's a trump sweep tonight. as it seems possible there will be. there's two races going on. trump is running to win the nomination outright. the other two are running to deny him that win. neither of them can win it outright, they're mathematically ruled out. they've got a somewhat easier task. they just have to hold him to under 1237, he's trying to get there. and obviously, he can't get there tonight, and they're hoping that if they can deal him a blow next week, out in indiana, that it will make it
very hard, he'd have to have a completely massive sweep in the remaining states to get there. he's likely to take a big step forward tonight and there's no getting around that. >> hey, brett, what about the momentum? and if he has big wins tonight and heading into indiana, no matter what happens there, let's say he comes up short by 50 to 100 delegates by the 1237, by the end of california. how much does that momentum heading into the convention get him the additional delegates? i mean there are all kinds of estimates, is it significant? >> bret, think of it this way, trump has been held under 50% everywhere until last week. in the voting percentages. he won by a distinct majority last week. it will be important to see what kind of majorities he rolls up tonight. if he rolls up big majorities in three or five of these states, that may indeed generate
momentum. his opponents have been saying the guy is getting half the delegates, but only got 38 or 40% of the vote. that will begin to change if he rolls that up tonight. i think it gets harder and harder to stop him even if he's headed off into indiana and doesn't quite get to 1237. i don't think when you get to the convention, if he's close, that the party as a whole would want to risk alienating his voters by denying him the nomination or refusing to come up with the delegates to give it to him. because they can't afford to lose the number of voters they think they would lose if it had looked like he had been cheated. >> we'll be back to you in just a bit as our special coverage continues tonight. a new york supreme court judge has ruled that a fraud case against donald trump over his former school, will go to trial. the new york attorney general accuses now defunct trump university of using what he calls bait-and-switch tactics. trump has denied wrongdoing. his legal team is seeking a jury
trial. possibly in the fall, and says trump could testify. there are a few down-ballot races we'll be keeping an eye on. in maryland, democratic congressman chris van hollen and donna edwards are fighting it out to win the nomination for november's election to replace retiring senator barbara mikulski. voters in baltimore are choosing a new mayor. in pennsylvania, former congressman joe sestak rematch with pat toomey in the fall. focused on the election here at home, north korea is getting ready for a nuclear test. we're told it could happen any time and represents another escalation in the communist country's nuclear saga. rich edson is live at the white house. >> north korea continues testing ballistic missiles, continues to develop its nuclear weapons program. the administration says the
united states will continue to bolster its defenses in that region as president obama acknowledges such a volatile regime is a massive security challenge. north korea, a nuclear country with an erratic leader is threatening to attack the united states and its allies. pentagon officials say there are indications north korea is preparing a fifth nuclear test. its fourth was in january. defying u.n. security council resolutions, they continue to test ballistic missiles, apparently launching one saturday from a submarine. the administration's response? sanctions and missile defense. >> even as we try to resolve the underlying problem of nuclear development inside of north korea, we're also setting up a shield that can a the relatively low-level threats that they're posing right now. >> the obama administration and long-time ally, south korea are, negotiating a plan to deploy a
ballistic missile defense system on the korean peninsula. though even with missile defense and international sanctions, one regional analyst says the u.s. needs a more aggressive strategy to deter north korea. >> the administration has put in place security council sanctions, china is implementing them more than before. although there are loopholes, it's kind of late. >> republicans have moved to north korea sanctions bill through congress. and say it is up to the white house to address the regime's continued aggression. >> i think we've acted. it would be nice to see what the president had in mind beyond that. >> the president is quite confident in the defense capabilities we have to protect the american people. and to protect our allies in the asia pacific. it means we need to continue to monitor the threat that's emanating from north korea. it means we need to be nimble. and adjust our strategy accordingly. but there has been a significant commitment of resources. >> china says it is firmly opposed to any u.s. missile
defense system on the korean peninsula. the administration says it is reassuring the chinese that that system is only design dodd keep north korea in check. meg megan. >> what does north korea's continued aggression mean for the u.s.? syndicated columnist charles krauthammer joins us from washington. your thoughts? >> it seems to me the big threat is not necessarily their new test, their nuclear test. they've had them. they have nukes, obviously. what's really worrying, the doomsday scenario is they miniaturize a warhead, they put it on a missile and the worst part is what we just saw the announcement, we're not sure if it was real event or not. but if they can launch it from a submarine, that means they become invulnerable. you put a missile on a submarine, somewhere in the oceans, it cannot be found. and that means they would pose a perpetual threat this is why we have our nukes on submarines.
lurking around the world, near our shores that could hit the united states. right now it needs a long-range missile to hit a city in the u.s. you're in the submarine, you don't need that. that's a threat and that's why the fact that the democrats have fanatically opposed missile defense until very recently, all through the '80s and '90s, after reagan had proposed it, is the reason that we are way behind where we ought to be. yes, we have to build up our nuclear missile defenses. but we are way behind and we have to do it. especially if they go to submarines. >> the charles, the next president, whoever he or she is, is going to face a dangerous world. saturday they had the submarine test by north korea. then you have last week iran conducting a long-range rocket test. something to put a satellite into space.
china conducts a test, launching a new long-range ballistic missile last week. and russia tests a new intercontinental ballistic missile, using hypersonic glider technology, that's all within a week. >> look, i think history will remember the obama administration for a few things. one of them will be, that it did nothing in fact, it facilitated proliferation in an age when we cannot afford it. the russians and the chinese, we can handle that. they've had nuke force half a century. and we have deterred them. the iranians could be undeterrable and obama has been the facilitator. they will go nuclear within a decade. there is nothing in the agreement that will stop that. and the north koreans, every administration since the '90s has not succeeded in stopping them. but at least we ought to be developing our defenses. the fact that they are on their way, they are completely undeterrable. as are the iranians. means that we're going to be
entering an age where there's no security in deterrence. it's going to have to be in defenses. >> charles, thank you. we're just getting started. in our special night of election coverage. will donald trump make a clean sweep tonight? rocket towards the republican nomination? or can cruz and kasich hold him back? when we come back, other news, including one of hillary clinton's almost-forgotten emails about benghazi.
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care, or emotional support to women receiving abortions at three new york city clinics, the women were provided transportation to and from the abortion clinics. >> first of all, it's inappropriate. second, it's in violation of the law. >> when americorps was expanded in 2009, congress expressly forbid money be spent to provide abortion services or referrals for receipt of such services. yet today's i.g. report says nhchc ignored that, adopting a narrower interpretation. the i.g. report says nhchc continued the practice even after a 2011 congressional hearing revealed that two other americorps grantees had violated abortion prohibitions and after its parent organization, the corporation for national and community services repeatedly warned grantees about the need for strict compliance in a written response today, nhchc said we moved immediately to cease the activity in question and suspended the identified
site's americorps members. its parent organization, while ak noming the limited scope of wrongdoing, took a stronger view, quote the grantee broke the law and violated the spirit of national service. >> unless you do a deeper dive on this and make certain there's no misuse of federal money or of federal staff time. >> i think it is an isolated situation and let's leave it at that. deal with it, self-correction. >> skeptics wonder how any big federal agency can self-correct when the consequences for breaking the law are so small. in this case, temporary suspension and retraining. megan, back to you. our next story could best be described as an intersection between two hillary clinton scandals. a government watchdog group says a state department is now admitting it withheld a key clinton email about the benghazi terror strikes. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is in washington with more.
>> the allegation by judicial watch, the conservative watchdog group, that successfully sued in federal court for mrs. clinton's emails is that a key document was held back by the state department for two years because it showed the former secretary of state was not using a government account, but a personal server for state department business. two weeks after the benghazi terrorist attack in 2012 which killed four americans, clinton and her aides put together talking points for a meeting on capitol hill. mrs. clinton used her personal email account. now it's alleged these heavily redacted talking points were first discovered by the state department in the fall of 2014, six months before the benghazi select committee revealed the account's existence, judicial watch said knowing about clinton's personal account earlier might have preserved the democratic front-runner's records. >> if we had known about the clinton email system in 2014, you can bet we would have tried to stop mrs. clinton from deleting any of her emails.
but because we didn't know about it because the state department hid it from us, mrs. clinton was able to go through, and potentially delete half of the emails. >> the fall of 2014 is a critical period because clinton attorney jada kendall got the back-up thumb drives in december and by that time it's believed 30,000 emails deemed personal by clinton's team had been deleted. the state department said today the charge is baseless. >> i would without knowing the details, because we just found out be highly suspect that there's any truth to this allegation that we would try to bury this or somehow hold it back, keep it from getting out. because it would somehow lead to a discovery of her private server. >> state department official claimed late today that they did give judicial watch bad information and mrs. clinton's staff did not hand over the emails until june of 2015. in response, judicial watch said the state department's shifting explanations are why the federal court are allowing clinton's
welcome back to our america's election headquarters special coverage from new york. we're waiting for the polls to close in five primary states tonight. while we do that, let's look at how the ground game is playing out in a couple of those states, we have fox team coverage, james rosen is at a polling site in rockville, maryland. we begin with correspondent molybdenum lyon in pennsylvania. >> you're right, the pennsylvania is a big prize of the day. all eyes on pennsylvania. and one of the most unique things about pennsylvania is the process here. and on the gop side it's particularly unusual. because just 17 out of the 71 delegates will actually go to the statewide winner. it hasn't stopped the gop candidates from chris criss-crossing the states, hitting pittsburgh to the suburbs of philadelphia and in between. beyond those 17 they go to the big winner tonight. other 54 delegates are unbound. when they head to the convention in cleveland, they're free. some have pledged to support a
particular person, that's essentially on their honor. it's not markedallot that gop voters actually see. the democrats have a more straightforward ballot and allocation process with 189 delegates at stake. the big issue here in southwest pennsylvania, certainly the economy. the major industries are in the energy sector, coal, fracking and an emerging tech sector. >> bernie sanders, because i'm a member of the cwa, i'm on strike with verizon, he supports our cause and wants us to keep our jobs here. that's important, because i want to have my job for a long time. >> trump, make america great again. that's what it comes down to. democratic policies, this nation is killing us, killing the small businessman and the average person. >> the keystone state has long leaned blue, democrats outnumber republicans. once in the suburbs, outside of pittsburgh or philadelphia the territory becomes more red. while both parties are seeing growth, it the gop that's seeing
the greatest surge now. the polls here close at 8:00 tonight. >> molly, thank you. maryland has 95 democratic delegates at stake tonight. and 38 on the republican side. chief washington correspondent is live in rockville maryland tonight. james? >> megan, good evening. maryland election officials tell us that early balloting is off the charts, the highest it's ever been in this state with some 260,000 ballots cast before election day. some 73% of them cast by democrats. paper ballot something also making a splash here, in maryland after 14 years of electronic balloting, with analysts saying paper ballots are more secure from intrusion. it's taken maryland nine years to make the switch back. here in montgomery county we found two instances at two different polling sites of electronic scanners, purchased at $28,000, breaking down. election officials cited five such cases among 2,000 machines
across the state. now one oddity of the democratic ballot is that it shows 18 people vying for slots as democratic delegates to the democratic national convention this summer there are nine men and nine women. but check this out, megan, i didn't know this was possible in our america, here's the democratic ballot, a sample. the nine women are together and the nine men are together. the only reason i can think of why that's appropriate is that we're in a middle school right now and you know how those dances go in seventh grade where the girls are on one side and the boys are on the other? megan? >> or like a jewish wedding, right? >> yeah. >> well certain -- certain sects, yes. >> thanks for the clarification. >> see you, james. >> so donald trump and hillary clinton are looking to dominate all five of the states up for grabs tonight, are the front-runners starting to appear inevitable? >> up next, our special expanded panel on what's at stake tonight.
>> people in indiana wnt have to make a conclusion, is john kasich over here voting? if he's not if i'm out there campaigning, i will get fewer votes. >> it looks like collusion and it proves my words it's a rigged system. it's a rigged system, these are two insiders, they get together, they want to rig the system against the guy that's going to make america great again. >> the three gop candidates on the phone today. let's talk about this. on this big night. let's bring in our special expanded panel here in new york. steve hayes, senior writer for the "weekly standard," dana perino, co-host of "the five." kirsten powers, "u.s.a. today" columnist and charles hurt, political columnist for the "washington times." >> steve as you look at the exit polls, i think everybody sees a pretty divided republican party. but one that seems in these states to be at least lining up to the vote that trump expected going in. >> yeah. i think this suggests a good night for donald trump overall. but your first point i think is
the key one here this is a very split republican party. if you look at the numbers from the kasich and cruz voters, how many of them say they will definitely not vote for donald trump? you're talking 50-plus percent of kasich and cruz voters say they will definitely not. what i think is surprising or maybe not surprising depending on how you look at the demographics what struck me is these seemed to be far more like never cruz states than they do never trump states. you look at the number of people, the percentages who say they will never vote for trump versus never vote for cruz. 30% say they will never vote for cruz. 41% say they'll never vote for cruz. 37% and the same true on the flip side. people say they definitely will support donald trump, huge percentages in each of those three states. people who say they definitely will support ted cruz. much smaller numbers. >> so dana now, the path for cruz or kasich to stop trump if
tonight goes the way we think it's going to go, is narrowing significantly. and insin becoming extremely important for that crowd. but even if they win indiana, you know cruz wins indiana, and denies effectively trump, the 1237 necessary for the nomination, is the number really 1237? if trump is within 50, or 75. i know what cruz will say and what kasich will say. but realistically, can the party get away with vote for anybody other than donald trump? >> on the rule, could they actually do it and actually survive? yes. but would they do that? i don't know. and actually campaign carl on the "the five" said cruz might be inflating his delegate numbers, so that you actually might see something like a very easy republican convention process for donald trump at least relatively so.
tonight you can't underestimate the benefits of winning, last week in new york he didn't just win, he won big and then he started acting like he was the inevitable nominee. that really helped in the demographics for these five states that are voting tonight. very similar to new york. but i think what steve is showing is that just regionally, it's not just that the party is split, but regionally the country is split in texas were the opposite. but where donald trump is well known in the northeast where you have more moderate republicans or somewhat conservative, what they call themselves, they are going for trump in a very big way. >> charlie, we've seen a diminished anti-trump effort. they spent just $100,000 on all these states tonight for ads. cruz spent $780,000. you look towards indiana, next week, anti-trump groups spending $2 million so far. cruz spending $2.2 million in indiana. >> i think that certainly the
candidates and the outside groups against trump are definitely coalescing around a strategy of going after indiana. you know, with realizing that the clock is running out and donald trump has defied expectations at so many turns here. >> at some point we've been talking about states that have been must-win states for donald trump since the beginning. >> we talked about it with iowa, he lost that we talked about with new hampshire, south carolina, florida, all of these big must-win states. and at some point, i think is part of donald trump's strategy, what a rigged process that is and you can pick it apart in sensible ways. the message there is, that you know, that the goalposts are being moved for him. you may disagree with that it's probably a very smart tactic on his part. >> we're talking about down into
the very, very end of it. indiana must win, and if he wins it convincingly i think he does put it away. >> are we going to have must-wins after that? what happens after california? it's going to be must-win saturday. >> there's no more after california, california is it. >> enjoy the trump casino. >> kirsten on the democratic side, the reports are that bernie sanders is going to reassess, if he does not have a strong night tonight. he's not expected to have a strong night tonight. is he waving a white flag? >> well they're have been reports, but i did see an interview with his wife just a few hours ago, pooh poohing those reports. saying this is a movement, they're in it until the end. i think he's probably assessing it trying to figure out how to get into the best position to try to insert the issues he cares about into the democratic convention and get a prime
speaking spot. get things into the platform. and so you know, i don't think he's dropping out imminently. i think he does feel like he has people behind him. the good news for the democrats, if you look at the exit polls, it's not really dividing the democratic party. 71% in pennsylvania, say it's energized the democratic party. versus in pennsylvania, 58% of republicans say the primary has divided the party so it's a very different dynamic on the democratic side. >> steve, listen to hillary clinton last night with rachel maddow, quickly. >> june 7th, 2008, when you got out of the race and endorsed president obama, june 7th, 2016, will be the california primary. >> right. >> is that when you, if you're ahead in the vote if you're ahead in delegates? >> i am ahead in the vote. i am way ahead. >> on june 7th. >> i have at greatest respect
for senator sanders, but really, what he and his supporters are now saying, just doesn't add up. >> she sounds like just finish this, please. >> that was quite a quite a display. it's pretty much the opposite of the kind of behavior you would suggest that she use if you're advising her, right? she is the prohibitive favorite and she's the presumptive nominee. it would take an indictment to stop her at this point and rather than act like she's the nominee as she has in her, in her prepared remarks where she hasn't mentioned sanders, she's gone after trump, instead she's sort of teeing off on this notion that she's not ahead. >> it's very clear whenever anybody begin as sentence with -- i have the greatest respect for -- you know it's coming, right? like no offense, but that tie does not look good with that suit. this is, your favorite look of the night. but in any event. we have more coming up. ted cruz and john kasich aren't even in any of the states
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politics theme. but, you know, i will tell you, it's a lot easier to go after big banks and wealthy from hillary clinton standpoint policy which needs to be talked about. get this economy going again. the reality is, you can be an american -- half of american taxpayers aren't paying a darn penny. woe be now in a situation, bret, where you don't have enough people with enough skin in the game and so consequently chatter like this, victimization politics, it plays in peoria. >> quickly, you look at the exit polls and you have republicans, trish, who say that wall street hurts the u.s. economy. five in 10. >> i think this is a very easy thing for people to understand or latch on to. people are still reigle reeling from 2008. there is a lot of blame.
wall street helped some of that. but plenty of others did as well. it's going to be a theme we are going to hear more of for sure. >> trish, thank you. >> social media has become the major battleground in the 2016 campaign. over the last week 12 million tweets sent about the presidential election. data over the past week, bernie sanders has been barely eking out on the buzz meter 50% to clinton's 49.7%. over on the g.o.p. side trump is huge on twitter, he is yuge compared to kasich's 1%. adam sharp is head of news, government, and elections on twitter. welcome, adam, great to see you. >> hi, megyn. >> how big has donald trump been to twitter? >> what trump has done is brought authentic voice to the platform. as you know he is the only candidate who does all his tweets himself. >> oh, she knows. [ laughter ] >> tapped into that populism that you are talking about in the last segment that
people can now connect directly with the candidates and have a conversation back and forth with the candidate without having to go through a mainstream media source. and that, i think, has helped fuel some of that populism as you saw 12 million tweets just this week alone. these are nfl size numbers of conversation. >> what about these delegates now, are these ads that trump is running on twitter? >> yeah, so on twitter, ads are tweets to begin with but a candidate like trump, like bernie sanders can actually pay to have that tweet delivered to specific voters they are trying to reach. in trump's case, he is now running a tweet in pennsylvania saying specifically what delegates he wants voters to vote for. not just vote for me on the top line, but these are the delegates i need. taking that strategy of one delegate at a time to get to cleveland and bringing it on to twitter. >> can you really judge how well the the candidate is going to be doing in the election based on the twitter popularity based on what we are seeing in particular with bernie?
>> what's most telling in these numbers is usually not the hard number. it's more the trend. bernie sanders last week was 57% of the conversation. now it's a st st statistical ti. donald trump has also accelerated over the last week. you have are seeing a momentum shift toward clinton and trump. that's a signal of what's to coming. >> thanks so much. the clock is ticking. just an hour to go until polls close in five states. a big night for trump could go a big way toward clinching the republican nomination for him. >> ted cruz and john kasich are not giving up yet. we will continue our special coverage. this is joanne.
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