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interestingfá the tone he takes. i predict that donald trump's tone is going to be gracious tonight. we'll see. "factor" tomorrow going to be t(t ruáup'ding. we'll have all of thise1 andc donald trump himself. thanks for watching tonight. i'm bill ñ see ya. breaking fontl!5ñlp inging tonight, senator ted cruz just ended his campaign for president. at this moment, we are awaiting i'm megyn kelly onñi a historic evening for america and for theçóet c1 republican party. remember, it was close to 11 months ago new york businessman donald trump descend the trump tower escalator to announce his candidacy for the highest office in the land. at the time critics believed his campaign would soonxd implode. instead he took thet( political world by storm and broke all the
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rules in the process. fast-forward toñi indiana, a state largely viewed as a do or die primary. fort( texas senator -m ñ cruz and the never trump moíhent at large. instead, that firewall collapsed, as the indiana voters largelyt( sided with mr. xdtrump, putting him less than 200çó delegates away now from securing the gop nomination outright. as forr waiting to see what happensxd there. and what of ohio governor john kasich? earlier tonight he promisedxd to figv4÷t( t(on. it's wait and see if that still stands, given senatorxd cruz's decision, which the texas senatorxd spoke out about just moments ago. watch. but the voters chose another path.çó and so with açófá heavy heart, but
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>> >>. >> reporter: new york city the home of the presumptivei] candidate for the republican nomination. the sign says victory indiana but in fact for donald trump a victory across the country andçóxd across the republican spectrum. the chairman ofi] the republican national committeezvreince priebus just momentsñi agoj8"uuá q donald trump will be the 0 3lu5aq%y áájátt and it's or the republican party to unite around him and prepare for the nominating convention in
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july at whichçó he'll be unveiling his running mate if not a few days on xdlpsooer. theñi campaign staff has beenjf jubeçó lent. a tremendous amount of self-satisfied overwhelming joy. this t faced more scrutiny and m skepticism than any successful presidenta candidate in the republican party in decades. so tonight they feel ae1 vindication ande1 alsook recognize the tremendous challenges. they recognize they have catching up to do in terms of the typesñr of massive organization needed to run a general election campaign. and it's gooing to be a long one. he'sxd effectively uncontested now with cruz suspending no matter whatt( kasich does. that means he has>-&relpi] time to plan to pick his running mate and they actually began some of those meetings this afternoon and they plan to continue them tomorrow. he'll be back on the campaign trail on thursdayi]fá in west virginia. but donald trump now is looking national.
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it's not oneb next. there are actually nine more remaining before the voting ends on june 7th. but for him"nnow, it's time to start seriously looking at hilary clinton and he can put ted cruz and the 16 other rivalsxd he's fought for almost a year in the rear view çómirrorw3 megyn. >> carl we'll be back to you just as soon as the candidate emerges. fox's john robertsg
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and ultimately the voters decided that they wanted to go with donald trump and not go with ted cruz. his only play and really his only play as of last tuesday was for a contested convention in july. but when you get handed seven big defeats in a row, the way that ted cruz did, starting with new york and then the five primaries on the acela primaries and then here in indiana, he just looked forward and said, you know, how do i make the case to the money people in this case, to americans to say, i've lost all of this yet i go forward. what remains to be seen though, megyn, what does he do tomorrow? i don't know if he'll stay here
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in indiana or go back to either d.c. or houston. then what does he do with his more than 500 delegates that he has collected so far? all questions yet to be answered. megyn? >> john roberts, thank you, sir. so what's next? monica crowley is a fox news contributor and host of the radio program the monica crowley show. stuart stevens a former mitt romney campaign strategist. monica, let me start with you. it is a historic moment. it's something the gop has never seen before. an outsider a billionaire, someone who had poked at the sitting president of the united states for months about whether he was in fact born in this country emerges seemingly out of nowhere to capture an incredibly powerful position and now face off with hillary clinton one-on-one for the keys to the
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over oval office. >> it is such an astonishing turn of events. if you would have told anybody this would be the outcome of the republican race a year ago, no one would have believed you. but this points to a number of things going on in the conservative movement in the republican party for a long time. in the short recent past we saw the growth of the tea party in 2009-2010 where conservatives basically revolted against the republican establishment. i think that has since morphed into a lot of other people who feel betrayed. betrayed, that's the word you get time and again in this exit polls, by not just the republican establishment but the bipartisan ruling class. and i think a lot of the calculation megyn is you know what? literally nothing could be worse than this. we're going to role the dice and try something completely different. >> they've said time and time again in the exit polls they don't care about the polls that say donald trump might lose to
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hillary clinton. they don't care. they're angry and they want to send a message. and they don't necessarily accept that trump cannot win, but they tell the country that even if he cannot, they're trying to be heard. stuart, this was not the result you wanted. your thoughts tonight. >> well i think we have to say congratulations to donald trump. it's very difficult to win a nomination. if that is in fact what he's done. he's done something that few people have done. he deserves congratulations. i'm not going to support dobld trump. i think he represents the worst of politics not the best. but, listen a lot of people obviously disagree and have voted for him and have put their trust in him. i think this idea that you don't care, you just want to send a message, i think that's more of an emotion of the moment. we'll see how that bears out in
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what will be a very long campaign. >> but what will you do now, sturlt? stuart? what will you and others like you, honest committed conservatives and others who had true objections to trump do now? can you get behind him? can you put those objections to the side? i know you say no, but can you foresee it? do you think that's sort of the anguish of your moment? >> well, you know i didn't have a strong candidate in this race so i don't feel very anguished. i feel disappointed in the party. listen, i think this is one of these moments in life where everybody is going to have to make their own decision. i'm not going to do the donald trump thing and attack anyone who disagrees with me or disparages me. i respect differences. i respect choices. i respect that i might be wrong. but i know what my choice will be which is simply i can't in
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good conscience back someone i feel is uniquely unqualified to be president of the united states. >> will you back hillary clinton? >> and that's donald trump. i'm not going to go down that road, no. i don't -- because i'm not backing donald trump doesn't mean i have to back hillary clinton. you know republicans like to spend a lot of time saying we helped defeat communism and one of the tenets of communism is you have to do what is best for the party. it would be a richly ironic moment if that was now turned to force some of us who don't want too support donald trump to support trump. i think it's a very individual choice. everybody has to make it on their own. and just know that it's something you're going to have to live with for a long time. >> monica we've spent so many months talking about the controversial things that donald trump has done. but does any of that matter now that he has won?
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i understand the other argument which is it's still on his record, right? he's not done. he hasn't won the presidency. so the question stands. >> you know it's interesting, megyn because in listening to stuart i know the never trump movement is quite significant, but i think about something that richard nixon used to say, which is when there is a movement to stop "x," bet on "x." that certainly holds true here in the case of donald trump. look, i think it depends, to answer your question, whether or not trump changes stylistically. that kind of bombastic personality, some of the more outrageous things he's said, his supporters love that. his supporters have taken to it because they think that the country is in dire straits and that this is the man to solve a very grave problem. and they like that stylistically he's a take no prisoners kind of guy. he has said in the past that should he get the nomination he will be quote, presidential. he has said that in the past, megyn, and we've seen that's lasted maybe 24 hours.
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but in that context, he still had a race to run and he still had two opponents to dispose of. now that ted cruz is out of this race, john kasich i guess remains but this is his nomination. we'll see if he switches gears. >> yeah. >> and realizes he's not just speaking for himself anymore. he's speaking for the party. the movement and essentially the united states. >> i want to bring you some breaking news. fox news is now ready to project that bernie sanders has won the state of indiana this evening, beating hillary clinton in a tight race there in a democratic presidential primary. this is an upset victory against a front-runner that keeps this race alive on the democratic side down the home stretch. hillary clinton had led sanders in pre-election polls but it appears not enough of her supporters actually turned out to vote for her today. we continue to await donald trump. what a night for him and for his supporters who were told by the
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political class over and over and over that this would never happen. and lo and behold it has. think of how happy they must feel, how relieved they must feel. they fought tooth and nail and they've gotten there. earlier at this point than they thought they might given what we had heard from senator ted cruz up to just a few hours ago. i want to bring in chris stirewalt our fox news digital editor and tom bevin. guys, thank you for being here. stirewalt, let me start with you on what this means. i mean the enormity of it. >> what it means is we finally have something good to talk about on primary night for a change instead of hashing through things. this is a big deal. i think your point is overwhelmingly true which is everybody said -- i remember sitting in this very building on the day that donald trump announced, ayinde said it's a fringe situation, these people,
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it's not going to happen. what happened is he -- a group of supporters particularly around the issue of immigration. he gathered them around himself and they stuck with him. while other candidates rose and otherdates fell money does this and that that changes, they stayed with him. and that core group of about a third of the republican party proved to be enough so that donald trump could prevail in the end, he could outlast the world. >> tom, as we watch the candidate come into the room now the presumptive republican nominee donald trump, your thoughts. >> i agree with chris. i mean this is something -- think about this donald trump did it without any ground game hardly spent any money, reinvented campaigning in a lot of these states. in indiana it was a microcosm of that. >> i don't want to miss his remarks. his daughter ivanka on one side and melania trump on his other
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side, two of the closest women to him side by side as he makes his remarks on an important, important night for him. let's listen. >> well thank you very much, everyone. i want to start by as always thanking my family my wife melania my kids. they're not kids anymore, but they're kids as far as i'm concerned. they'll always be my kids. and i want to thank my great parents who are looking down right now and my brother looking down on us. i want to thank my entire family, including mary ann, elizabeth, robert. it's been some unbelievable day and evening and year. never have been through anything like this but it's a beautiful thing to watch and a beautiful thing to behold. and we're going to make america great again. we're going to make america great again.
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so important, the people of indiana have been incredible. i started, as you know not very long ago, about six weeks ago, and i was told i had a 20-point deficit. and i went there ayinde worknd i worked very hard and i campaigned and made lots of speeches and met lots of incredible people. incredible people. you don't get better. and the crowds got bigger and bigger and toward the end it was like i didn't want to leave. i almost said maybe i'll just never leave. it resonated somehow, and we had a tremendous victory tonight. it was a tremendous victory. and i have to thank bobby knight. boy, bobby knight was incredible. incredible. i always say about people like that, there aren't many but it's called tough, smart, and they know how to win.
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that's what our country needs. we have to win again. we have to know how to win, and we haven't won. we've been losing all the time. we lose with our military. we can't beat isis. we lose with trade. we lose with borders. we lose with everything. we're not going to lose. we're going to start winning again and we're going to win bigly believe me. so when i got back tonight and i started watching all of the different networks i could see immediately that we were doing very well, and it really looks like a massive victory and looks like we win all 57 delegates. and i must say in staying in various places in indiana, we had -- i turned on the television and all i saw was negative ads, negative, one after another after another.
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and i called my people, and i said, how can we win? it's just constantly. it was the same as florida. you know there have been 60,000 negative ads. i got it right from you folks. 60000. in fact, two weeks ago it was 55000. now it's 60,000 negative ads, most of which are absolutely false and disgusting. and i said how can anybody endure this? i had one evening two nights ago where literally they had five ads on in between segments of a show that i was watching. i said that's just incredible. and the people are so smart. they don't buy it. they get it. and tremendous amounts of money was spent. millions and millions of dollars.
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they were comparing -- they think probably $8 million was spent against me and we spent 95 $900000. to me that's the way it's supposed to be. that's something that makes me feel really really really very good. and now we're going to nebraska where i have -- i just hear we're doing really wonderfully. i look forward to that very much. and west virginia we're going to get those miners back to work, i'll tell you what. we're going to get those miners back to work. we're not going to be hillary clinton. i watched her three or four weeks ago when she was talking about the miners as if they were just numbers and talking about she wants the mines closed and she will never let them work again. let me tell you, the miners in west virginia and pennsylvania which was so great to me last week, and ohio and all over are going to start to work again. believe me. you're going to be proud again
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to be miners. so we'll be going there. i must say this tremendous run that we've had started with new york when we had almost 62%. and don't forget that's with three people. 62% with two people is a massive landslide but 63%, just a little over 62%, when you have that kind of number with three people, it's actually unheard of. and all throughout it was 17 people, then 15 then 12. it's tremendous. we were getting very high numbers. some of the numbers in my opinion in the early stages where i'd win a state with 32% but there were 14 people i think that might be actually more and better than getting 62% in new york. but we never got credit for that. now we don't need the credit because we're going after hilary
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hillary clinton. she will not be a great president. she will not be a good president. she will be a poor president. she doesn't understand trade. her husband signed perhaps in the history of the world the single worst trade deal ever done. it's called nafta. and i was witness to the carnage over the last six weeks especially. now i've known syracuse and i've known poughkeepsie and i've known all of the different places that i visited in new york and in pennsylvania and in maryland which treated me so great and the people are incredible and all of the different states, connecticut. i've witnessed what it's done really firsthand, and it has been indeed carnage. we're going to change it around. we're not going to let carrier and all of these companies just
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think that they can move go to another country make their construct, sell it back to us and we get only one thing. we get unemployment. not going to happen anymore, folks. not going to happen anymore. we're going to bring back our jobs and we're going to keep our jobs. we're not going to let companies leave. now, if they want to go to a different state good luck. compete. but when they start going to different countries and in many cases countries that devalue their currency and make it impossible for our companies to compete, that's not going to happen. not going to happen. and if they want to do it anyway, there will be consequences and there will be very, very serious consequences. i have to tell you that i've competed all my life
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competitive person. all miffy life i've been in competitions, different competitions, whether it's sports or business or now for ten months politics. and i have to tell you that i have met some of the most incredible competitors that i have ever competed against right here on the republican party. you know we started off with that 17 number and just so you understand ted cruz i don't know if he likes me or he doesn't like me but he is one hell of a competitor. he is a tough smart guy. and he has got an amazing future. 's got an amazing future. so i want to congratulate ted. i know how tough it is. it's tough. it's tough. i have had some moments where it was not looking so good and
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it's not a great feeling. so i understand how ted feels and heidi and their whole beautiful family. and i want to just say that one tough competitor. and i can say that for the others. chris christie who endorsed me incredible guy. dr. ben carson who was right up there one of the first, he just called me and said it's a movement you've got going. we've got to do something because i'll tell you it's an incredible movement. dr. ben carson endorsed me. i want to tell you that is an incredible man. we want to keep them totally involved because we're going to win. we're going to win in november. and we're going to win big. it's going to be america first. i made a speech the other day
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and i talked about how we're the policemen for the world, how we protect other countries and they don't respect us. and they don't take care of us. they don't treat us right in many cases. that's not going to happen. now we can keep things going and we're going to keep things going very nicely. but we owe $21 trillion soon, it's 19 now but with the budget recently done, soon it will be $21 trillion. we're just not in the position that we were in 30, 40 50 years ago when a lot of these things took place and began taking place. so we're going to have unbelievably good relationships with other countries. but likewise, they have to treat us fairly and they have to understand that what we've been doing over the years has been so wrong and so unfair to the united states and to its people and to its taxpayers. so that will change. i will tell you they're going to end up liking us better than they do right now. they're going to respect us.
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in this building right upstair ss i have the largest bank in the world from china, relationship is fantastic. we have great relationships with many foreign countries. burr they have to respect us and they have to understand where we're coming from. and you know it a two-way street. the two-way street means that we're going down one side and they're coming up the other. and we're going to meet and we are going to have something that's going to be be really fabulous. now if that can't happen if for some reason they want the system to continue the way it's going now, which is unfair and not good where we're spending trillions and trillions of dollars probably $4 trillion in the middle east and we have to rebuild our infrastructure our roads, we have to rebuild our bridges airports, hospitals in
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this country, we've become close to a third world country. you look at some of our airports. it's third world. then you go to other countries and you see places like you've never seen. so i have to say that we are going to turn it around. we're going to build up our military, bigger better stronger than ever before. it's the cheapest thing we can do and we're going to have to take out isis and we're going to have to take them out fast. we can't allow that cancer to continue. we cannot allow it to continue. and you know one group that's been so incredible to me are the vets, the veterans. they've been treated so badly, so badly. we're going to get that straightened out. now, one of the things that just happened which to me is very exciting, just happened now with two or three, but the rasmussen poll came out and in that poll i'm now leading hillary clinton. a lot of good things.
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i'm now leading hillary clinton by two points. >> trump! trump! trump! trump! trump! >> that's going to continue because they're not going to be able to do it folks. they're not going to be able to make great trade deals. we have such bad it deals. they can't do what we're going to do with the mill fare on the border, include the wall. we're going to have unbelievably great relationships with the hispanics. the hispanics have been so incredible to me. they want jobs. everybody wants jobs. the african-americans want jobs. you look at what's going on they want jobs. we're going to bring back our jobs and we're going to save our jobs and people are going to have great jobs again. and this country which is very, very divided in so many different ways is going to
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become one beautiful, loving country. we're going to love each other. we're going to cherish each other. we're going to take care of each other. and we're going to have great economic development. and we're not going to let other countries take it away from us because that's what's been happening for far too many years. we're not going to do it anymore. we're not going to do it anymore. i want to thank and congratulate the republican national committee and reince priebus who i just spoke to. he's doing a tremendous job. it's not an easy job when he had 17 egos and now i guess he's down to 1. i don't know. is there a second? is there a second? i don't know. going to have to ask you folks to explain the status of that. but he's done an amazing job. i think we're going to see something really really fantastic. i also want to thank my staff,
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paul, corey hope. these people what we've been doing has been incredible. the work has been unreal. and jared married to my daughter ivanka, i mean honestly jared is a very successful real estate person. but i actually think he likes politics better than he likes real estate. and he's very good at politics. again, poke sfolks, this has been an amazing evening. i didn't expect this. i didn't expect it. what ted did is really a brave thing to do and a great thing to do because we want to bring unity to the republican party. we have to bring unity. it's so much easier if we have it.
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and many many people are calling that you wouldn't even believe. the media. the press. they wouldn't believe, people who have said the worst things about me i've never had things said about me like this. you know in my businesses i've always been very respected. people didn't talk to me this way. but in politics it's easy. the worst things. they're calling now and they're calling us all, and they're say we'd love to get on the train, the trump train, they call it. we'd love to get on the team. i actually spoke to one today who was vicious. i mean this guy was unbelievable. i said i love having you, and i think it's terrific. but after what you said about me, how can you possibly join our team? and he said, mr. trump, don't even think about it don't worry about it, there will be no problem. in other words, he's a politician. there's no problem. i would have had a hard time.
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but we have a lot of people coming, lots of congressmen. i have to thank jeff sessions senator jeff sessions one of the most respected men or people in congress. and so many others. i mean sarah palin has been from day one incredible. jerry falwell jr., liberty university, he is something. he is really a special person. they've done an incredible job. and everybody goes through liberty. we all go through liberty. somehow he liked what i was saying and perhaps he liked the way i said it. he's a special guy, and he really has helped me. and so many pastors and ministers. tonight i see that i won with the evangelicals the evangelical vote was for trump. and there's no greater honor, just no greater honor.
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we're going to work together for many, many years. we're going to make it so good. we're going to be saying merry christmas again. we're going to be saying -- and i won with women. i love winning with women. but i won with women. i won with men. we won with hispanics. we won with african-americans. we won with virtually every category. so it's just been an amazing evening. so again, i want to congratulate ted cruz. he is a tough, smart competitor. i want to thank my wife and my family. it's an incredible family. i want to thank my staff, both my staff and my thousands and thousands of people that work for the trump organization.
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and perhaps in all fairness, more importantly on this evening and for what we're doing currently my staff where we're running for the presidency. and remember this our theme is very simple. it's make america great again. we will make america great again. we will start winning again. you will be so proud of this country very very soon. thank you all. thank you very much. thank you. thank you. thank you very much. >> donald trump, the presumptive republican nominee for president at trump tower where it all began about a year ago. joining me now fox news political analyst brit hume. what a moment covering everything from we're going to say merry christmas again, how much he loves winning with women and saying we're going to become one beautiful, loving
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country again. your thoughts? >> well it was an interesting blend there as he reached a moment many thought that he never would reach, where he is clearly the man and clearly is going to be the nominee of blending the familiar with what may be the new, which is the generous remarks he said about ted cruz. lyin' ted was not mentioned toblt. it was what a strong and able and smart guy with a great future ted cruz is. that was different from what we had heard. and his generous comments about thanking everybody, which he's done in the past. but the tone of it was clearly different. the themes were there, we'll bring back america, we'll be winning again and all the rest of it. but what we may now be seeing megyn -- campaign to something new and different. and we'll see whether he's able to succeed in bringing the party that is clearly not fully behind him together. >> reince priebus tweeting out tonight, donald trump will be
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presumptive gop nominee. we all need to unite and focus on defeating hillary. at the same time james carville sends out a fund-raising e-mail seeking to raise money off the trump presumptive victory. hillary herself just sent out a fund-raising tweet saying trump is the nominee, chip in now if you agree we can't let him become president. so what is the likely path ahead over the next seven months? i mean, i know it's tough to say with trump but what do you anticipate happening here, brit? >> well he'll be under severe attack from hillary clinton and her democratic allies. they will point to the vagueness of his promises. they will point to the multitude of things that he has said over the years about women and about others. we will hear those repeated over and over again. he is whether he he likes it or not a target-rich environment.
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and they will take dead-aim at him. and he will respond however he chooses. but i think, megyn, the first order of business for him is to try to win over the balance of his party. i mean he's been rolling up majorities in recent races but overall he is not supported by a majority of the party. now, many of the republican vote will swing behind him but he needs all of it. mitt romney got 93% of the republican vote in 2012 and he won the independents by, what four or five percentage points and lost the election. you see what donald trump has before him. when you get down to it, there are simply more democrats in the country than there are republicans. and the republicans have to win nearly all of their potential vote plus independents by a good margin and pull over some democrats. >> but was mitt romney winning democrats in the way donald
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trump we presume might be able to? >> well we presume that. i have no doubt that a lot of reagan democrats, so-called, working class democrats many some of these rust belt states in particular will be for him. but will that offset the deficits he now has with minority groups? that's the question. barack obama running with a weak economy and i think one that would not normally lead to reelection won by cobbling together these extraordinary majorities among minority groups, african-americans in particular, and others. i don't think hillary clinton will do that as well as he did. nearly as well. but she still will have the advantage because he's so under water with women and all the rest of it. he will need to pull the party behind him and then need to find a way to withstand the attacks, which are going to be severe. mount some of his own and it will be a come-from-behind
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victory. there's not much doubt about that. you look at the current poll willing now. he's well behind in all but this single poll he mentioned. by the way that poll he cited is one you had to take away the option of not voting at all in order to get to the majority. that poll will need to be confirmed to say the least. >> stirewalt says that poll doesn't contact cell phones either so it's problematic. >> we'll see. but there it is. as i say, it is one of many and all the others say the same thing. they show hillary leading. so there you go. she's a weak candidate. >> right. with a very high unfavorable rating. >> not trusted. not as high as his unfavorables but very high. but she's got work to do as well. >> i feel like the american people need to put on the steel armor and gird themselves for what's about to come between those two, assuming both races work out the way we think they are going to officially.
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brit thanks so much. >> it won't be pretty megyn. thank you. >> donald trump did not get to tonight's win without a lot of resistance from some conservative circles. remember this dramatic moment last february? national review ed ritors took their stand against the man who appears to be the shoo-in. the never trump movement says they're far from over. rich lowry is here, barry bennett also a trump campaign senior adviser. great to see you both. barry congratulations on the victory. rich, let me start with you, however. you famously came out with that national review edition joined by so many conservatives, two dozen, saying not trump, no. for many different reasons, very well respected conservatives who just could not understand getting behind him as the nominee. how do you feel now? >> well, we're disappointed. but look, first of all, i have to tip my hat to what trump has
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achieved to be able to win a major party nomination in the modern era basically without having pollsters, without having speech writers, without having a fund-raising team, with having very little organization and just going out there and doing it on gut instinct and big rallies and media interviews is completely incredible. but we do think this is a mistake for the party. we do think that reagan-style conservism conservatism is basically going to be in exile at least for some period of time. >> what does rich lowry and those people in the never trump edition of "national review" do? >> well, some of them are just never trump and they won't vote for him no matter what. we haven't officially said that yet. we want the dust to settle and then make a carefully considered statement. but this is going to be a bizarre election. i don't think people have gotten their heads around it. besides the government basically
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won't be an issue between trump and hillary. trump will attack her from the left and right. we'll have a republican presidential nominee attacking hillary clinton for her iraq war vote from the left. you're going to have -- bernie sanders pushed hillary to the left on the trade and social security, and she's not going to come back in the center in a general election because trump would attack her from the left on those issues as well. so this is a completely different republican nominee than we've seen in decades and decades. >> barry, that's not what he -- what he said is not wrong, write? that's the sort of asymmetrical game trump plays which can keep his add volunteerversaryies off kilter. >> it's politics 2.0 for sure. you know but it struck a cord with millions and millions of americans. it's the right bundling of
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issues and message, and, you know, rich we want your vote. we want all of your votes. we're happy to sit down with you if it's possible. but you know we're going to fight a battle in the fall unlike any battle we've seen before. but we're going to win because we're up against a 30-year incumbent and we all believe that washington needs to be bulldozed and started fresh. >> what do you say, barry, because i read it on the air former mccain adviser saying i don't care, i'm not going to be supporting him because i think he would be reckless and speaking to the temperament issue we've seen with trump in the past? the very issue that helped propel him to tonight's victory, but there is you would concede, a question about whether that temperament could do the same for him when he's trying to appeal to more than just republicans? >> you know when mccain became our nominee i was one of the people who publicly said i'll never vote for him. but by the time we got to the fall, i wrote him a check and i
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voted for him because it was important. i expect a lot of these people -- i don't expect it tonight. i don't expect it tomorrow the of i don't expect it this month. but as we go through the fall a lot of these people are going to do everything they can to help us defeat hillary. that's all we ask. >> taking a look at donald trump jr. there speaking with a reporter who we cannot see and a cameraman in an enormous green shirt. at first i had no idea what we were seeing. now it's more clear. a very happy night for the trump family, all of whom have worked so hard on behalf of their dad. that's one thing you cannot say about donald trump, that he hasn't raised a great family. they speak well of him. rich, the question is what this means for republicanism, for the republican party and whether this party will ever look the same after tonight. >> well what trump has exposed is the current pieties in the
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republican party weren't as strong as we thought. everyone thought you had to go out there, every day talk about ronald reagan talk about his example, talk about his policies, repeat his ra tore cal troeps all the time about a shining city on the hill and all the rest of it. trump did none of that and he went out and sold a nationalism and populism to republican voters, and republican voters were just angry enough with washington, just sick enough of the status quo and the establishment that it worked. you know one element that became clear over time is that every time he said something outrageous it helped him because it reinforced his brand as something new and different. but megyn you alluded to a lot of folks having really concerns about his temperament and character. barry, i would ask you, why on a day when he's going to win the indiana primary very likely and likely wrap up the republican nomination, why is he out there talking about ted cruz's dad
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being in on the kennedy assassination assassination? that's the kind of thing that sort of makes people's head explode and makes them wonder what this guy is thinking. >> go ahead barry. >> you know ted cruz had a press conference at 11:30 a.m. that was far more vitriolic. >> but trump said that on "fox and friends" before 11:00 this morning. >> but cruz was still doing it at 11:30 this morning but withdrew at 8:00 tonight. the primaries are over. >> speak to that point. somebody else raised it earlier. trump hasn't had a defense. why would he do that when he was polling 10 15 points ahead in indiana before we started the day. it was looking very much in his favor. a lot of folks said wait a minute, we've been through three weeks now where trump was behaving more presidentially. why could he be depended on to keep that going? >> i don't think he was -- he's not going to let up in a 100-yard dash. 's going to run through the tape. that's what he was doing. ted cruz did the same thing.
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i admire them both for it. they both knew the handwriting was on the wall and they both played to the end of the game. >> but barry, i understand fighting hard. obviously there's nothing wrong with that politics ain't beanbag beanbags. but accusing someone's father of being party in some sense in the kennedy assassination seems way over the line based on a completely ridiculous report in the "national enquirer." >> this is over. this is over. the reason ronald reagan -- >> hold on, hold on. barry, make your point. then rich you can respond. >> i worked on the reagan campaign and i think you did, too rich. >> i never worked on a political campaign. >> oh, sorry about that. but ronald reagan won because he led people who were hurting. that's exactly what donald trump is going to do. >> i get that. but if he wants to unite the party why wouldn't he go back and say, senator cruz there's no proof that your father is
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part of the kennedy assassination? i apologize. >> no reason for that. the primary is over. >> clearly no unity yet. but it's the first night. you never know. let's listen to donald j. trump jr. giving remarks a few moments ago. >> i was. i was there with him. it was vanessa, ivanka jared, eric, the whole family was there. sitting on his bed watching the tv. saw some hints on social media then when it happened i think it was just sort of a collective wow. i don't think there were a lot of words spoken. just incredibly shocked. it's been a long and brutal process one that's been very tough and we weren't familiar with. so it's incredible to see him step into this game as an outsider and do so well and give the people a voice. it's just been awesome. [ indiscernable question ] i'm sure they will. >> do you think it's possible for your father to unite this
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party? it's pretty fractured right now. >> i think the answer is 100%. people get it. there's been a lot of protecting the system with the old-school establishment. i understand that. but i think a big part of my father's message is letting the people have a voice, giving them that voice again and letting it be heerd. it's spoken loud and clear. i think our politicians on both sides have to start actually listening to the people for a change. [ indiscernable question ] listen, i've learned never to second-guess him. we obviously know it was sort of -- it would have to almost be an anomaly. but he's a special guy, and he's an incredible person. he understands these things. he gets it. i think i want somebody to lead the country who has actually signed a paycheck employed tens of thousands of people whose livelihoods depend on his success [ indiscernable question ] we don't have a choice now. we're all in. [ indiscernable question ] if he wants me to i'm happy to did it.
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it's the least i could do. i'd love to do it for the country if it helps [ indiscernable question ] work. we're going to make this happen. we'll push hard and never give up. thank you guys. >> from your this the hardest thing your father has ever accomplished. >> if you ask him, he thought real estate and business was a brutal process at times and this is worse. it is incredibly tough and incredibly brutal. again whether you have people behind you -- >> and there you heard it it would have to be one of the hardest things that he has ever accomplished and work, indeed they will have to because while this republican nomination contest is effectively over tonight an secured this nomination all but. john kasich remains. he have a fight ahead of him. hillary clinton will unleash everything she has and is already fundraising off of what we have seen this evening. joining me now is katie pavlich town news editor and scott brown former massachusetts senator and donald trump supporter.
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senator, katie, great to see you. senator, congratulations of your victory of your candidate tonight. let me start with this come in from john kasich's chief strategist says until someone has 1237 bound delegates there is no presumptive nominee. california here we come. your thoughts? >> listen i like john kasich. i have a lot of respect for him but if he thinks he is going to be vice president, if he think this is going to help, it's not. i don't think that donald is going to focus on him at all. is he going to shift gears to not only raise money but raise awareness and try unite the party and focus on hillary clinton. you have already seen the barrage from hillary and her team. have you people running high negatives. the difference is donald can improve his. i think hers are more in stone. >> katie, i'm very curious as to what you think. have you been never trump. and, you heard him tonight talking about how he won tonight with women. i love winning with women, which was an interesting comment.
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your thoughts key win with this woman right here in the blue? >> i think that he has a lot of work to do. not only with women in the electorate but also with women in his own party. that he has decide to do run for president in that party. there is a lot of people tonight who feel very disappointed. they give credit to donald trump for doing something that no one has ever done however, there is a lot of conservatives who feel they do not share any conservative values with donald trump. from everything from healthcare to the way the government functions and what the roll -- role of government really is and how our constitutional system works. he has a lot of work to do to shore up that conservative vote. >> hey, megyn? >> yes. go ahead, senator. >> that's a great point. listen, ted ran a great race. now he has to make a decision whether he wants to help in that effort to bring that conservatism into the trump fold, to be there as a sounding board to help, you know push him along in that way. it's not all of a sudden he is the president and no one
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else does anything. ted has an opportunity and so do all the conservatives to come in and bring those ideas. >> what does he do? >> that's a lot to ask. >> sorry, katie, go ahead. >> so is our losing our country to the four more years of hillary clinton with all due respect. four more years. >> with all due respect, senator, it's a lot to ask when you have a candidate who just this week said that he basically doesn't need the conservative voters who didn't cast their vote for him in the primary. it's a lot to ask for conservative voters to vote for someone who is significantly supported nationalized healthcare system. it's a lot to ask for conservatives. >> look katie, listen. >> please don't interrupt me senator. >> let her finish. >> senator, please don't interrupt me. >> let me make my point. >> irritating to ears when you talk over each other. katie your point. >> senator don't interrupt me. it's a lot to ask when you
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have donald trump accusing ted cruz's father of essentially being part of the jfk assassination. and then later changing his tune and saying that ted cruz is a beautiful family and is he a stand-up guy. so he has a lot of work to do. and votes are earned. donald trump is not entitle to do the votes of conservatives. so i look forward to seeing what work he is going to do to bring them into his camp. >> go ahead sir. >> great, katie, great talking points but this is reality. we have a situation right now where it's either going to be hillary clinton or donald trump. >> who trump gave money to. >> let me finish now. and we have an opportunity now to actually bring in the conservatives, unite this party take back the white house get the cabinet positions, judicial positions ambassadors having the vice president come in and actually potentially be that deciding vote. that's the choice period. and i'm hopeful that he will pick a vice president that will make your conservative wing of your party very happy. and that we can unite this party and put that feigny back into the -- genie back into the bottle. that's the choice
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indicatey. >> i want to ask you as a trump defender to her point how does he do it? >> i'm a trump supporter. >> supporter. so, if you were going to advise him, okay now you have got win the women back. you have got to get more women. >> yeah sure? you cannot win the presidency with 72% of women not supporting you. you have got to win some hispanics back over. you have got to win some young people back into the test. how? what is your advice to him? >> well, first of all, hillary clinton is the same thing with men. so you have -- it's almost a wash, but i would advise him to get his surrogates. get his family female employees executives helped not only women but hispanics. get them out there and have them start advocating as you are starting to see. this process as has said earlier rich lowry has just said it is a long and brutal process unlike anything we have ever seen. you have a lot of hard feelings. we have a chance to actually get back on track and unite behind our nominee and take back the presidency or we
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can have four to eight more years of barack obama and hillary clinton. that's the choice. >> okay. >> so i know it's an ugly choice for some people but what's the choice. >> thank you very much. appreciate both of you being here. the back and forth between senator cruz and donald trump today, here was how donald trump spoke about ted cruz just moments ago. >> i have to tell you that i have competed all my life competitive person. all my life i have been in competitions. different competitions. whether it's sports or business or now for 10 months politics. and i have to tell you that i have met some of the most incredible competitors that i have ever competed against right here on the republican party. we started off with that 17 number. and just so you understand, ted cruz i don't know if he likes me or if he doesn't
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hike me. is he one hell of a competitor. is he smart tough guy. i want to thank and congratulate the republican national committee and reince priebus ohio just spoke to. is he doing tremendous job. it's not an easy job. i think we are going to see something really really fantastic. >> joining me now dana loesch, host of dana on the blaze tv and author of "hands off my gun," good to see you. >> thank you. >> now we are hearing that senator cruz will go back to houston tonight to be with his family. this was disappointment to you. you were a ted cruz supporter. put in perspective donald trump had a very different message by the end of the day about ted cruz than he did at the beginning. competitors in the morning not now. do you think that ted cruz needs to push to get those who supported him all those delegates who voted for him and who he corralled through that effort he put in so many states to get behind donald trump?
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>> you know megyn, politics, i feel like saying kanye 2020 right now to get that out of my system. no, but politics is a weird game. and it's funny that you bring that up. because just this morning he was spinning this yarn that raffaele cruz was somehow involved in this assassination. the trump camp is suggesting now ted cruz you have to bring unity. it's not ted cruz's responsibility to bring unity. it's the republican nominee's responsibility to bring unity. and he needs to really rethink how he is approaching things and so does his supporters. hard to unify to people who call you a -- >> that's an interesting point because it's been such a brutal primary season and a lot of sharp elbows were thrown. >> right. >> let's be honest more sharp than we have seen in recent history many republicans and conservatives were alienated
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by the tactics used to get to this point. what of that? do you think trump needs to do something more than just sort of say we have got to unite? it's going to be beautiful. we have got to beat hillary? >> this is where i'm coming from i started in all of this getting involved in grass roots in 2008. when we were out in the street protesting the republican establishment and i have to note he did fund them. and that's not arguable. it's just what happened. he has to get over that hurdle because there are a hot of people throughout like me scratching her heads thinking the establishment is still there mitch mcconnell still there lindsey graham still there we feel as though, a lot of conservatives feel as though the ones doing the grass roots stuff in 2009 all of a sudden we are being attacked pause we preferred somebody else in the primary that belligerent kind of approach maybe it works against other, you know candidates in a primary. but it doesn't work with conservative activists, megyn. >> who he definitely needs working on his behalf or at least certainly be helpful
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to him. thanks for being here. what a night, folks. love to get your thoughts on the east coast go to file. tell me what you think. thanks for watching. i'm megyn kelly. here's sean. >> this is a fox news alert. tonight, donald trump decisively wins the indiana primary and senator ted cruz drops out of the race making trump now the presumptive republican nominee. here is trump reacting to the news. >> this has been an amazing evening. i didn't expect this. i didn't expect it. and what ted did was s. really a very brave thing to do and great thing to do. because we want to bring unity to the republican party. >> yes. >> we have to bring unity. it's so much easier if we have it. >> and on the democratic side, senator bernie sanders defeats hillary clinton in the indiana primary. joining us now to react to all of this, fox news contributor tucker carlson, fox news senior