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who looked fantastic tonight. that dress was killing. apparently matthews liked it, too. we will be back at 5:00 p.m. eastern. ted cruz suspended his presidential campaign. the texas senator saying he's calling it quits since there's no longer a path to victory.
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>> rnc chair reince priebus tonight tweeted that trump is now the presumptive gop nominee. >> we will try to get senator cruz's remarks in a moment. in his victory speech, donald trump seemed ready to make amends with the party. >> i want to thank and congratulate the republican national committee and reince priebus, who i just spoke to. he's doing a tremendous job. it's not an easy job. he had 17 egos and now i guess he's down to one. >> so donald trump is adding at least 50 more delegates to his total, putting him 190 shy of clinching the republican nomination. >> on the democratic side, bernie sanders scoring a late primary season win over hillary clinton. he couldn't win with a big enough margin to keep clinton from collecting delegates. the former secretary of state has were than 2200 delegates
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which puts her least 91% of the way to becoming the first woman nominated by a major u.s. party. the indiana republican party chairman saying today that now indiana will go down in history as the state that made donald trump the presumptive republican nominee. that gentleman is joining us now. jeff cardwell is joining us. he made the statement. thank you for being with us. you make it sound like that's a good thing. is it? >> well, i can tell you, hoosiers across indiana have been excited over the last few weeks to be able to be a part of a history in the making. this has been a very exciting time for all of the candidates coming to indiana. it is the first time in my lifetime indiana hoosiers vote really counted in a presidential electi election. >> 65% of americans have a negative view of drumpl i'm sure
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you saw the suffolk university poll that came out. 40% of republicans will not support donald trump if he's the nominee. half of them said they would vote for hillary clinton. the other half said they'd stay home. there you see on the screen, you know, a great many people want an outsider. but is he the wrong outsider because he has such high negatives? >> well, look, we did start out with 17 can 2k5i9s. this has been a hard-fought battle from the beginning. it has been tough. primaries are always tough. i mean, first of all, i'd like to say thank you to senator cruz, his family, his entire team for their dedication and service to america. but now we are down to the presumptive nominee, donald trump and now it is a time for the republican party to heal. it is time to come together. we will do our party and we will have to work hard to make it
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happen. but the nominee will have to do that, as well. this will be up to mr. trump to reach out to all of these fractions within the party and bring everybody together. >> it looked like he was trying to reach out tonight to ted cruz he called him a tough competitor and amagz person. of course it is easy to be gracious when you win. that was just hours after the nastiest comments of all that trump has uttered against ted cruz. you know, when you do stuff like that all the time, how can you unite the party and get your competitors to back you? >> well, because i really think that there's something here greater than just the can 2k5i9s themselves. we are talking about the future of america. it's time for us to really look for the future of america and take the leadership role back, not only here across america, but around the world. and so now i think you are going to see people focusing on
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november, winning in november, and i think you'll start to see people really focus on restoring the american dream, restoring the american leadership we need desperately in america and around the world. >> donald trump has deficits with minority voters, and he's underwater considerably with women. how does he change that? >> well, again i think it is time now, he will focus on that and bringing the different fractions together. it is going to be a lot of work on his party to reach out to all of these parties. >> what does he say to hispanic voters? >> well, he has a lot of support from several sectors in the hispanic group. he's going to have to continue to work on that. >> really? >> oh, yeah. sure he does. >> like what? >> there's been a lot of signs -- i think you have seen some of the reports latinos for trump. he will continue to build that coalition. he has a lot of healing and work
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to do and he will have to continue to do that. so it is a long time. 30 days is a lifetime in a political cycle. we have a long time until november to help with that healing process. >> 73% of women have an unfavorable view of donald trump. can he change that and how? >> well, i think he can change that by helping to get his family involved in the process. i think you will see his children and wife get on the campaign trail. there will be a lot of people that will come in and help with the healing process. it will take time. >> thank you for being with us. good talking to you. >> thank you very much. donald trump's decisive win in indiana comes after his big foreign policy speech last week. joining us now trump's foreign policy adviser, he's an expert on the middle east and a fox news contributor and he is joining us from our washington, d.c. bureau.
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thank you for joining us. >> thank you. good morning. let's listen to trump tonight on foreign policy. >> we're the policemen for the world and protect other countries and they don't respect us and they don't take care of us and they don't treat us right in many cases and that's not going to happen. they have to respect us and they have to understand where we are coming from. it is a two-way street. the two-way street means we are going down one side and they are coming up the other. we're going to meet and we're going to have something that will be really fabulous. >> all right. so trump says the u.s. protects other country and they don't treat us right. what would he do to change that? >> he is now declaring there would be a change, a significant change in u.s. foreign policy. as he just said, and the way we will be dealing with partners and with foes. no more deals like the iranian deal with foes. he will want to renegotiate that
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and with partners, should they be in the arab world or europe, we need to negotiate better deals for the future. the world has changed. nato needs to adapt. other coalitions will emerge he doesn't want to be an isolationist. he wants to readapt what exists to the current situation. >> is it possible he iran deal is a done deal. what leverage do we have in can these deals be renegotiated? >> absolutely. they have been many deals before and way before, decades ago and they have been renegotiated. when he says renegotiate, he means he will put some pressure, form some coalitions. he will talk to many people. remember, the speech also covered the fact he will be speaking with the russians. on the one hand against isis and on the other to renegotiate the deal with the iranians he will have a complex deal to translate it in to a better deal or different policy toward iraq. >> you mentioned isis.
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as a terrorism expert, how would you advise mr. trump to fight isis? >> again, going to change direction. number one, the goal should be not to contain isis but to dismantle isis. that means that they are there are going to be forces on the ground. maybe people say can't be american troops. we won't push options. mr. trump saying the coalition should be made by countries that have armies. that's why we renegotiate with them. >> president obama at the correspondent's dinner mocked trump's foreign policy experience. trump is responding by insisting he negotiates with foreign leaders frequently due to his business transactions. can you elaborate on that? >> absolutely. look, there are two ways to compare. first on arrival, when mrs. clinton, before she becomes the first lady and then the senator and secretary arrives to
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politics or senator obama at the time, did they know more about the world than when mr. trump arrived to politics some months ago? of course he knew more because he said at the time he had many deal and negotiations and actions with foreign leaders, but that's not the issue. the issue is when you are in government and you see these amazing national intelligence estimates, it's wa you do with them. the president and secretary of state have received tremendous amount of information. what did they do with that information for libya, for syria, for iraq, for the iran deal? that's the real comparison. >> yeah, you mentioned some of them. if trump goes head to head with mrs. clinton on foreign policy, what weaknesses of hers might he try to exploit? >> every single crisis we are living right now has begun under her continued urn the current secretary mr. kerry. so mr. trump will raise all of these issues and beyond that he will ask her what is your
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solution. he will have a solution and ask for your solution. we are looking forward to those debates. about putting the u.s. first. it sounds logical enough for one country to say that but some of you are a ail lice got ne allie. >> we have been speaking with many lawmakers and we will speak to more and even officials now that he is the potential nominee, or actual almost nominee. they are concerned he is an isolationist, absolutely the op it. he will renew the system of alliances including nato and other alealiances. europeans have been cussing the matter between themselves. >> thank you for joining us.
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>> thank you for having me. joining us now ellen radner, bureau chief of the -- her book the store a reporters journey is out on paper back. executive vice president of jamestown associates. good to see you all. >> thank you. >> ellen, bernie sanders wins indiana, bad night for hillary clinton. but since she's roughly 90% of the way to the nomination in terms of delegates does it matter? >> 90% of the way if you include the super delegates. if you take them out, there's 300, 325. >> do you have a way to magically take them out? >> because they switched in 2008. they were for hillary and all of a sufden went -- many of them went for obama. i think that -- because he had taken the lead by then. going in to the convention. >> you have to look at does he have a mathematical way, that is
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bernie sanders, of winning. let's take the superdelegates out of it. the rest of the delegates and we have many coming up. california has 475 delegates. >> right. >> judy, sanders says he can win west virginia, oregon, kentucky and california. what do you make of that? >> it doesn't matter he has no mathematical path to getting the nomination. she has 91% of the delegates she needs with the super delegates. i have to disagree with you, my friend, i don't see those super dell delegates going anywhere. indiana is a set back for her, especially given trump's overwhelming win there and ted cruz's withdrawal from the race. i think we have to face facts that hillary is a weak candidate. she and donald trump share this quality, they have very high negatives both of them. and there's another problem. the last rasmussen poll showed
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that 15% of democrats said they were willing to cross over to vote republican, whereas 8% of republicans said they were willing to vote for hillary. there's a huge gap there. the switchover rate, which she will need because the race will be won by independents. >> a battle of the negatives. >> absolutely. >> tony, her net negative is minus 21 the last i checked, which is abysmal, except when you compare it to trump's, which is close to net negative of minus 40. >> judith is right we are about to have nominated as the major party nominees the two most unpopular public officials in the country which in and of itself is history making. this is what i would say, from someone in the world of political advertising. when squun is a well known commodity or product is well known it is difficult to reestablish the brand in the eye
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of the public. however, donald trump has been able to do that. if you think of where he started a year ago he was under water across every demographic. if you look at the results, particularly the last several weeks he's winning. we don't need exit polls. he is winning every income, racial demographic, religious demographic, regional demographic. >> are we talking about donald trump? >> it is a fact. >> it's not a fact. >> of course it is. >> the last time i checked he is under water with women and doing horribly with hispanic and minority voters. >> you are not understand what i am saying. in the republican primary he started under water in a lot of demographics. and today he is the presumptive nominee and has been able to correct that. he has to redirect the effort to a general election where clearly he has issues with women and hispanics. i want to make it clear.
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you are talking about the general election and national demographic groups i'm talking about what he has done in the republican primary. >> we are sort of on to the general election here. >> i think i agree with tony, the amazing progress that donald trump has made. in a general she continues to kill him. in a general election in terms of polls. >> what about the rasmussen poll, is it an out liar. >> it is an outliar. >> we have had an extraordinary event in american history. that is the party of lincoln is now led in to a general election by donald trump. i think a lott of independents like me having a hard time wrapping their minds an that fact. >> what is interesting is bobby jindal, who's been critical, he's the governor of louisiana, has been critical of trump and gingrich, they are coming on-line, all saying we have to get together an unite as a party.
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>> mark salter is a separate issue. >> i would love to start getting wagers on how many republicans are going to defect. this never trump movement was basically exposed as weak and i neemic. they had a chance after wisconsin. it didn't go anywhere. there is not a united cause. other than their dislike for donald trump personally. i have to say trump's opportunity and no doubt he has inherent flaws and weaknesses. as does hillary clinton. she still hasn't settled the bernie sanders matter. but trump's opportunity is he can grow the republican party. he touched on a populous theme. whether or not it will manifest the way it has in the general election as we have seen in the primary it remains to be seen
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but he has the potential to do that. >> we will come back to the panel shortly. thank you very much. exit polls showing in indiana what we have seen in other states. fewer women are going for trump than men. >> now he is turning his attention to the general election, will this be a stumbling block? trump talked about the issue in his victory speech tonight. >> i won with women. i love women. but i won with women. i won with men. i woman with hispanics. we won with african-americans. we won with every -- virtually every category. it's been an amazing evening. what super poligrip does for me is it keeps the food out. before those little pieces would get in between my dentures
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he will likely face a female opponent in hillary clinton? daniel is the on-line editor for the weekly standard and author of the "new york times" best seller clinton inc. he joins us from our d.c. bureau. daniel, good to see you. is there a gender gap that could prove decisive in november. >> there is. some polls suggest something like 70% of women dislike donald trump. >> 73%. >> yes. some say 73%, but least 70 percentage in arch poll say that women don't like donald trump. you condition win an election that way. you have to win the women over. and donald trump has to be conscience about going forward and has to retool his message and pick up some of those voters otherwise demographicicly he
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can't win. there are challenges ahead for donald trump. he comes in as an underdog for that reason alone. but there are many others, as well. >> does it help him in a november matchup with hillary clinton that according to the late test "washington post" abc news poll 59% regard hillary clinton as dishonest and untrustworthy, 37% view her as honest? >> right. this is the crazy thing. both candidates on each side look to be very unpopular for somewhat similar reasons. donald trump doesn't do so great with honest and trustworthy numbers, either. they haven't been a focal point the way hillary clinton has. both candidates have a lot of work to do in order to make them the better candidate in the race. i think their strategy going forward is not to necessarily make the positive case for their own candidacies but increase the negatives on their opponents. i think that's probably what we are looking at as far as the
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campaign goes and that means it will be the nastiest, most brutal campaign we have ever seen. perhaps exciting and fun to watch but it will get personal and be brutal. >> it seemed as though trump was trying to extend an olive branch to ted cruz after some blistering comments aimed at cruz. cruz had his own for trump calling him a pathological liar, amoral, narcissistic at a level this country has never seen. do you envision these two guys coming together and ted cruz actually endorsing and campaigning for trump? >> ted cruz will make a decision on what is best for ted cruz and he will proceed going forward. of course we know that ted cruz pledged to support the republican party nome nominee as the chairman of the republican party chairman said the
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presumptive nominee is donald trump. how do you walk tt back? you can't say well, i was kidding, he really isn't a340r8, right? that is tough language. i'm sure ted cruz will find a way because he has to. but, by the way, i don't think that is good for him. i think he could carve out a niche, i fought donald trump all the way through, i opposed donald trump all the way through and here i am sitting pretty for 2020 if donald trump were no lose. it is a gamble, of course, but, you know it is a calculation he may make. >> if i may get back, for a moment, hillary clinton versus donald trump. he has a ten den dency to name people, giving them a moniker and not a kind one. lying ted, little marco. his latest seem to be crooked hillary. is that something that could stick? it is not just going after her e-mails but her record as
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secretary of state on matters like benghazi, as well. >> certainly i think that helped. it is proven to help when he talked about low-energy jeb bush. the labels seemed to stick. i'm not sure crooked will stick. i think when donald trump talks about her stamina it resonates more and few other criticisms of hillary clinton that may resonate more and be more effective but there's no question he will employ similar tactics that have brought him this far going forward. he has to. it has work for him tremendously. help would be crazy not to employ them going forward. >> he has that uncanny ability to size somebody up. find their weakness and zero in on it with a label. we'll see what happens. daniel, good to see you. thanks. >> thanks. coming up, hear from one of indiana's delegates. >> he will tell us why the state saw a massive turnout today.
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continuing our live coverage of tonight's stunning developments, we go to republican congressman todd rokita. he had previously endorsed marco
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rubio and is joining us on the phone. congressman, your state saw an increase in voter registration and high voter turnout. to what do you attribute that? >> hi, good to be with you. we're still, i guess just getting to bed here in indiana. an exciting night and month. in indiana we r not used to be the center of attention when it comes to presidential politics but we were this time. what can i say, we didn't disappoint. what we attribute it to, i will tell you, we're not unlike the rest of the nation when it comes to this. hoosiers are fed up with the direction of the country. you saw this in the turnout, especially the republican turnout where we had 600,000 people vote for donald trump compared to the democratic winner, which was unbelievable to me -- i'm not a democrat but still unbelievable that indiana
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democrats in this amount of 330,000 votes voted for socialist. unhard of. the republicans swamped the democratic votes tonight and i think that's the story. we want a change of direction. it's not the socialist change. we will see it in mr. trump, i guess. >> let's look at an exit poll from voters in your state today. in that poll, 56% said they are excited or optimistic about the possibility of trump as president. whereas 43% are concerned and scared. a big difference there. what do you make of that? >> i have to tell you, it showed in who we nominated on our republican side. we want a change. we're excited about mr. trump but also intrepid dags.
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i think hoosiers are no different than the rest of the nation. with that almost desperate for something different in this country. i'm a united states congressman, probably serving the state in that capacity now and you know, what i take, okay, as an elected official who's running is i have to listen to the message sent that they are fed up with the way things are being done. as you know we have been in divided government for a long time. i would take it to mean that with president trump i will have no excuse to get things done and we'll have to get things done and i look forward to that. >> indiana considered a red state generally but president obama won it in 2008. do you think indiana will be in play again this year? >> you know, i think so. given what we saw tonight. given that mr. cruz is out. certainly. in 2008 we saw just the opposite
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for the other party. i guess it is the republicans' turn and indiana will lead them and i look forward to help them get it done. >> as we mentioned, you are a delegate. you say you will respect the votes of the hoosiers during the first ballot and after that you will listen to the remaining candidates, only one remaining candidate. does this mean you may vote for kasich? >> that's a great question. i have not heard from the kasich campaign and i don't know if they will see it all the way through or not. but that's what i said leading up to this that i would follow the rules. the rules in our state bound me to mr. trump on the first round. if there is a subsequent round i will listen carefully to the candidates and execute my duty when it comes to that. that includes listening to mr. kasich. however, at this point, it is overwhelmingly to me that it will be mr. trump.
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>> congressman, thank you for joining us. >> great to be with you. >> back to the panel. it is pretty historic, billionaire that never held public office, has no military experience, was this a revolt by tens of millions of americans who went to the polls and expressed their sentiment that they are absolutely fed up. they have come to resent and despise the people in washington? >> i think that's exactly what it was, gregg. by the way, it is mirrored on the democratic side with the rise of bernie sanders, who even though he's opposed, he's a member of the system, he's opposed to the system he's a member of but barely because i think he has one piece of legislation he can claim credit for. there is this anger and fury and frustration that's been reflected in everything we have been talking about here at fox news, the growing income
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inequality, the disappearance of manufacturing jobs in america, the fact there is this 1% that seems to live in a difference universe. what's ironic to me is donald trump is very much a point of that .1 of 1% and that's the person for whom republicans seem to identify as one of them. it's kind of an extraordinary thing he's pulled off to make people feel he's one of them when he, in fact, has led a silver spoon existence. his only built his business because he started out with money. >> he put thousands of people to work, been a huge success. he's had notable failures. >> three bankruptcies an he's the only presidential candidate who's actually had to pay a fine for hiring illegals. >> he is the om presidential candidate that created thousands
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of jobs. that would be the counterto that. how many of these guys have signed a paycheck for thousands of workers on a regular basis? fair point. >> it is his understanding of the every man's perspective temperature donald trump does not hide from the fact he is successful. he boasts about his wealth unapologetically. there's an authenticity to that temperature having grown up in brooklyn, i can say this, he has an outer borough quality to him. he relates to people regardless of his wealth and status when you look at how he crafted his campaign he runs down the middle. on immigration and the muslim ban he veers right. on trade he goes left. didn't attack planned parenthood the way other republicans did. he is charting a path to expand the party. i actually view his opportunity
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as running a nonpartisan election. if he does that successfully, he could give hillary clinton a good run. >> judy mentioned manufacturing job and how horrible it has been the loss of manufacturing jobs in the united states. hillary clinton in a one-on-one with kentucky coal miner talked about how she felt so badly about the loss of jobs. even though in march, at a town hall meeting, she sort of reiterated we will drive the coal miner and the coal businesses out of business. but then she said she was going to put her husband to work on that issue of manufacturing jobs. does this mean we will have two big desks in the oval office? >> i don't know whether we will have two desks or not. i think we don't know about that. i do know if you look at west virginia we know the natural gas is coming up as a major thing in
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west virginia. it is not just coal jobs. the other thing i want to bring up, look, all politics is local. one thing we will look at is who is the vice president candidate? a lot of people think he has to choost choose case africa ohio but kasich is a neighboring state to the great state of ohio where i am from and he didn't do well tonight. >> you don't think we want one president at a time and not two people operating out of the oval office. >> i do. i don't think that will be an issue with bill clinton. >> she will give bill clinton that job. >> you are not a believer, are you? >> she remains less popular than her husband in public opinion polls. i think he can help her but he can also hurt her depending on how donald trump plays it. >> our panel, you are with us throughout the night. we will come back to you regularly, thanks. bernie sanders following up on his bin win in indiana with a warning for the clinton
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the final vote is cast. we are joined from detroit. thank you for joining us. so, look, bernie sanders today said, you know, if hillary clinton thinks it's over, i've got news for her. but the truth is, she's almost there. she's got 2215 and all she needs is 2283. she is 93% of the way there. is it over? >> no, it is not over. you have to stop counting the super delegates on tv. we have a strong case they could flip. we think we will have more pledged delegates after the primaries are over than hillary clinton. you have a lot of momentum going in to the convention and he's a better candidate than her in every respect in the general election. >> you said there is evidence the super delegates would flip. what else? >> if they think logically,
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hopefully they will flip. a lot of them are people that pledged support to hillary a year or more ago before bernie was registering, before he announced his campaign. if they want to stay true to what the voters are saying and how momentum will go in the next month, i think may will be a good month for bernie and not great for secretary clinton. if they are concerned with winning the election in november, bernie performs better against donald trump in every poll out there than secretary clinton does. >> the media hounds these super delegates asking them if they will change their position. none of them have said they would. isn't that discouraging to you. >> the super delegate is not good. but bernie is bringing a new generation of people. i think if the democratic party is smart they want to see what
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bernie is doing, bringing in people not part of the political process before and he will be able to appeal more to independents in the general election than hillary clinton. i think what we will see with the republican nomination and wrapping up after tonight, in the primaries going forward the trump affect on the democratic primary will be beneficial to bernie sanders because he will pick up more independent voters in open primary states like new jersey and california that function as open primary state and get bigger numbers as we get closer t convention. >> he's the only socialist in the u.s. senate and he wasn't even a democrat until he started to run as a democrat for president. how much do you think that word, that label, socialist hurts him? >>. >> well, democratic socialist first of all, is different than simply saying socialist and it hasn't hurt him grittily eatly
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primaries we are seen so far. the more people learn about bernie, the the longer the campaign goes on the it is better for bernie sanders and not as good for hillary clinton. as people hear his message and see the energy he brings i think labels won't be as important when you talk substance in november. >> thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you. ted cruz bows out after a loss to donald trump in the hoosier state. >> how much longer will john kasich stay in the race? more on that still ahead. how are you supposed to choose one? simple. you don't. at red lobster's create your own seafood trios, you get to pick 3 of 9 all-new creations for just $15.99. and with this many new flavors trust me, you'll be glad you can try three. like creamy baked lobster alfredo
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it is the pipe dream of those who would like to see trump stopped. i don't think there is enough organization behind that. i talked to a reporter following this story and they even told me it's kind of winding down. the issue is logistical. you have to in most states run an independent race, apply for the ballot independent in each state and in big ones, like texas, the deadline has passed. it is the stages of grief process. most of them have got on the the final stage acceptance. some have not. i suspect the party will follow suit and we will have a more unified idea of what the party will look like behind trump come cleveland. >> we are hearing able that unity now. reince priebus tweeting out. trump is the presumptive nominee. let's get behind him. we are hearing anyone but clinton, trying to move in that election. will that work? i know they will try to move in
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that direction but i think the fight has been so difficult and i think mr. trump, unpopularity is so high that some people given what he has said about what so many things will simply be unable to make this shift. i think that's what the democrats will be counting on. i think they have every reason to believe the republicans are not going to be able to heel. the other thing donald trump has to do that he has never done before is raise serious money. we talked earlier about the billion dollars he's going to have to raise. he doesn't have much of a ground game now. i mean, there's so much work they have to do. i don't see how it all comes together. >> we are hearing people saying they would sit it out rather than vote for trump or clinton. now we have people saying over and over again the supreme court, they will vote just for the the sake of the supreme court nominations. what do you think. >> basically 25 to 33 percent
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vote for the republican. and the in between is what they have to go after. they have to go over swing voters. what used to be called reagan democrats. whatever you want to call them. they are the swing votes. this will decide this election. i'm not worried about people staying home on either end. >> there's too much zero sum analysis going on. that's where we made the mistake in following the trump campaign since last june and why there was so much surprise at his strong performance. i see the same mistakes made when they talk about his high disapproval rating the fact that women don't like him. this is true but they are capable of changing. he's a dynamic candidate of the like we haven't seen in the modern era. i think what you will see happen and we see while you have 60% increased turnout on the republican side, if he has expanded the base of support, the voting base that turns out
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in these contests and that's what i think we don't totally understand yet, which is why i don't like the notion that we are making so much -- not us necessarily -- but the general media, making commentary about trump's inability based on numbers that are static right now. >> we will hold that thought and talk to you after the praek. >> we're not elite. as in media elite. >> no, just media. >> america's election headquarters continues at the top of the hour. we invite you to stick around. it's been an amazing night. lots more ahead. (announcer) need to hire fast?
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trump called -- tonight when cruz announced he would be >> tonight, i'm sorry to say -- it appears that path has been foreclosed. >> cruz is heading home to
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houston but john kasich is refusing to drop out. his creature strategist says that tonight's resalts are not going to alter the governor's campaign plans. so hard to believe that he has much of a chance especially since there are now two candidates that have dropped out that have more delegates than kasich. also hard to believe that trump will have likely secured the nomination before clinton secures the democratic one. that is a remarkable achievement for someone who has only been a politician for ten months. what a wild night. >> it has been. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> as christen said, donald trump may be calling himself the presumptive nominee but it's not over yet.
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so a recent survey found 6 in 10 cruz supporters say they would back trump and 25% don't know. they're not mentioning cruz there. do you see cruz's supporters turning to kasich instead? >> i think they could. you know, i don't know. i'm not ignorant to the fact that donald trump looks like he has it right now but i think there is a slim chance and for me as a young person i'm going the stand by john kasich because i believe it's the right thing to do. i'm from los angeles and we're moving towards california. i think if young people go out and vote and we pick up some of cruz's supporters that you know, who knows, maybe we can go to an open session. >> it all hinges on that. trump has to not clinch the nomination and not get the 1,237
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delegates and it goes to a contested convention. but trump supporters say they would be outraged at such a convention if the votes to go to kasich if trump did so much better than the primaries and they would sit out the general and hand it to hillary clinton. are you concerned about that scenario. >> i don't know if that is true. i think people would be upset but i can't say that is necessarily true. i think that john kasich pulls consecutive democrats and moderates as well. you have to factor that in as well. >> consecutive democrats, pragmatic liberals and independents could rally around kasich. he is popular in ohio but has not caught on nationwide. why is that? >> i don't know if it was the 17, you know, people in the race to start, you know, i think we
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could have maybe done a better job getting his name and face out there. i think the media has given -- as you know, a bunch of time to donald trump. but as i said before, i really believe that people need to stand for what is right in this country. and i think donald trump is wrong. he's dangerous. and as david burke wrote in the new york times he says those who walk with trump will be tainted forever with the degradation of standards. i truly believe that. you can't jump ship because things aren't looking good. >> so the rules would have to change for kasich to be eligible and and today, of course, he said that trump is the presumptive nominee. do you see the rule changes being enacted to enable a kasich nomination? >> i think they could.
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and reince priebus, that is to be determined at this point. >> gregory crusoe, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> bernie sanders slowing hillary clinton's momentum after another win in indiana. he is calling the victory a great upset. we have more from the new york newsroom with more on the democratic results. >> bernie sanders claims an upset victory in indiana as he emphatically declares the race for the democratic nomination is not over. meantime, hillary clinton all but ignores sanders last night and continues to pivot to donald trump. if you look over here, 83 delegates were up for grabs and because they are awarded proportionally, sanders gets about 43 of those and clinton
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gets 37. clinton holds a 321-pledged delegate lead and the lead with superdelegates, they can back anyone. his path is not impossible but it is improbable. sanders acknowledges that saying it is an uphill and narrow path to victory but he believes it will go to the convention where he says superdelegates will flip and support him realizing he is more likely to beat trump. >> i think that as more and more delegates are to the democratic convention take a hard look at which candidate is generating the kind of enthusiasm, excitement, voter turnout that we need to make sure that somebody like a donald trump does not become president, i think you will see more and more delegates concluding that that candidate is bernie sanders. despite his winning, hillary clinton tweeting a fundraising
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pitch last night. donald trump is the presumptive nominee, chip in now if you agree he can't be president. a prolonged primary is the last thing that clinton wants it it could weaken clinton who has to worry about winning over sanders supporters on one hand and battling and attacking trump on the other. there are some alarming signs for clinton. sanders won 72% of independent voters. and 18% of democratic voters say they won't vote for her. and more than half of indiana's voters believe she is not honest or trust worthy. sanders says that his staying in the race will bring higher voter turnout for the dems in november. we shall see. >> thank you so much. more now on hillary clinton's efforts to fund raise off donald trump. joining us now henry munrose, it
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didn't take long for the clinton campaign to start soliciting money out of fear that donald trump as the nominee could be a compelling threat. what do you think? >> thank you for having me, well, the trump nomination became a reality today. and i think it is disturbing to many people across this country and is i expect people will not only be raising money off his candidacy but also will be activated by the potential of a trump presidency. >> and we apologize we're going to be getting your video shot up in just a moment but we can hear your voice. i want to get your reaction to our report a moment ago, you may have heard it. bernie sanders telling reporters he expects to go to the convention and convince superdelegates who are committed to hillary clinton to flip for
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him because he has a better chance of beating donald trump in november. what's your reaction to that? is that a real possibility? >> i think what is missing from the narrative is the fact that 85% of the delegates who will elect the next nominee of the democratic party are elected by the voters. only 15% of the delegates who are superdelegates play in this nomination process. >> in a close contest that makes a huge difference. >> well, but at this point there has never been a nominee selected by the superdelegates. they have been around since 1984. the number has been reduced from 20% to 15% and this next nominee will be selected by the voters. >> it never happens until it happens. bernie sanders predicted that
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there would be a contested convention in philadelphia. does that seem at all likely to you? >> i think what is really interesting about this race it is a primary race that is very energetic that has engaged the democratic voters. people within the democratic party feel like this is a primary that has been run on issues not on personalities or continues to be a great interest in it that it has happened today in indiana an i expect that that energy will continue all the way to the convention. >> the latest washington post/abc news poll found that 59% of voters believe that hillary clinton is dishonest and untrustworthy compared to 37% who regard her as honest. why do you think that is? >> i think that this has been a disastrous week for the republican party. >> that's not what i'm asking you.
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why is it that almost -- 60% believe that what looks to be your nominee is dishonest? >> i think that our nominee, whoever that may be, whether it be hillary clinton or senator bernie sanders, is going to articulate the values of the american people and will represent the american people well and i don't believe that they will have any problem taking on the trump nomination and -- >> forgive me but you haven't answered the question. why do you think that almost 60% of americans think that hillary clinton is dishonest? >> i think that the democratic people who have voted, the democrats who have voted for hillary clinton over 10 million people in this election, the same -- almost the same number who voted for bernie sanders believe that a democrat ought to be the next president of the united states. >> thank you very much for with
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us, thank you very much. >> thank you. and still joining us here, our panel, ellen ratner, judith miller and the executive vice president of jamestown associates. thank you for staying with us in the middle of the night. talking about sanders a little bit. he says it's not over and he's staying in. and greg spoke with one of his supporters who said of course the superdelegates are going to flip. a lot of them committed to hillary clinton before sanders had so much traction. now they will all change their minds when they see that sanders is electable and the one who can beat trump. what do you say? >> debby wasserman schultz put out a statement last week saying that superdelegates have never determined the outcome of an election. that is sort of true, politifact
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has given it the almost true statement. but the fact is if he gets the delegates without the superdelegates then they probably will come over. we don't know. i think they ought to be taken off the table and we ought to see what the next few elections are like. >> do you think he is doing a lot of damage to hillary clinton? >> i think he is and i think he's doing damage by driving her further and further to the left. she has had to disavow her own trade pact for which she worked so hard. that is one example. the longer he stays in the race the harder it will be for her to pivot back to the general election themes where she can play on her competence. i think the best thing that happened to hillary clinton tonight was donald trump's victory and his status as the presumptive nominee. all of these young people are going to have to think about
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their choice. do they want someone like bernie sanders, who may stir their hearts and their passions but someone who is not likely to win in a general election? that's the -- what they're going to have to think about. for the first time in a serious way because donald trump and you heard it from the kasich sponsorer is dangerous in the democratic mind. >> tony? >> i have to say i continually marvel at the idea that we relegate bernie sanders to the ash heap of history when he won his 18th state. he won more than ted cruz, marco rubio and john kasich combined. the third straight month outfundraising hillary clinton with small donations, not the big corporate money. he doesn't have a superpac. bernie sanders has won the argument which is why it doesn't matter what she thinks about natural gas. so what she said to the guy in
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west virginia was another hillary clinton mistruth it's not just about delegates. i never believed that bernie sanders had a math mematical wa to the nomination. it will be a challenging mandate for donald trump to beat her easier. >> health care was in the democratic platform in 1948. universal health care. it took obama to get it passed even though hillary clinton and bill clinton had health care that was always there in '92 and '93. the platform fight can be there but it doesn't necessarily mean anything. >> what if it includes the superdelegates and getting rid of them and having a transparent delegate process. >> that's not going to be part of the overall platform that goes against donald trump. >> people don't vote on the
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basis of a platform. they vote on the basis of a candidate. it is going to be easier for hillary clinton to walk back her trade policy than for donald trump to undo all the horrible things he has said about mexicans, women, let's go on. >> and the west virginia comment in which hillary clinton said -- vowed she is going to put coal miners out of their job. she has been trying to walk that one back. >> that and the fact that -- while i do agree with some of your analysis, judy, the idea that donald trump's bombastic remarks are more important than jobs and livelihoods, he can make similar to sanders that she is not credible on. this coal miner example is actually the pitch-perfect example of how hollow a lot of the hillary clinton rhetoric is. it is very consistent with what she and president obama have
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supported. >> it's very interesting. the coal mining issue is an issue. but in fact there were issues like steel, et cetera in indiana. but the jobs won out much more than what was going to be happening time and time again in terms of old jobs, new jobs and trump won out. >> we're going to leave it there. a lot more after the break, though. donald trump is less than 200 delegates away from locking up the gop presidential nomination. >> now he needs to get the gop establishment behind him. >> this has been an amazing evening. i didn't expect this. i didn't expect it. what ted did was a great thing to do. we want to bring unity to the republican party. we have to bring unity. it's so much easier if we have it. ♪
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john fund is a columnist with the national review which in january ran an issue against trump and he joins us here in new york city, thank you for being with us. we can see in that poll the economy a very big issue. republican voters are banking on trump. you say it is main street versus wall street. explain that. >> what we have seen since 2008 when we had the financial crisis is the obama administration decided to basically count on the federal reserve pouring billions and billions, trillions, even, of dollars into the economy, injecting new currency, basically. and to prop up the economic situation. so wall street recovered from it lows. it's lost a little bit lately but people who own stock are doing very well. however the average american household hasn't had a pay raise since 2000 and the average
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american household earns less than they did in 2008. while those who own stock and have investments are doing much better than they are. >> in addition to that, trade, something that trump is talking about a lot and its impact on the economy and supporters are agreeing with trump's premise that our trade deals are unfavorable to u.s. workers. what do you say about his trade plans? >> well, you know, on trade the vast majority, 95% of economists believe that trump is fundamentally wrong. you can't roll things back. manufacturing is going to have to compete with entities around the world, building walls raises cost for consumers and discourages businesses from adapting by modernizes and doing other things. having said that we have a problem because if you are over the age of 50 and laid off from
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a manufacturing concern for a lot of people they feel that is the end of their career. the federal government has made a mess of job training. there are 220 job training programs and almost none of them work. we should have a targeted benchmarks of accountability because we do need to do something for those people who are the losers in world trade. but as you know for every loser in world trade there are two or three jobs that are created in ports and other new industries because of the economic activity the trade creates. on this trump is wrong but he hit a political gold mine because people are anxious about their future. >> can you evaluate trump's economic plan in comparison to mrs. clinton? >> on the tax front it is clearly superior in terms of encouraging growth. donald trump recognized that the
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united states can't compete in the world and this is more important than trade issues if it has the highest corporate income taxes in the world. that is unacceptable. it means that american companies have one hand tied behind their back when they are trying to compete abroad and we have an enormous billions of dollars of capital overseas and people are not bringing it home to the u.s. because of the high tax rates. so he has proposed to lower the corporate tax rate and bring back -- have a holiday, bring back that capital at a lower tax rate to reinvest it in the u.s. so national review for which you write columns wrote that article against trump. and trump mocked people who are trying to jump on the trump train, his words. can your colleagues make that
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pivot? >> i think it has to be a two-way street. obviously if donald trump has won the nomination, that is an enormous amount of credibility because he won with millions of votes. but on the other hand he refuses to release his tax returns. i think that is a red flag for voters. others have released their tax returns. and in the fall, i predict if donald trump doesn't release his tax returns there will be a leak out of the irs which will probably embarrass donald trump. i think he has to become more transparent and open and presidential, if you will. now he doesn't have the competition of the primaries to worry about. he has to think in stark terms how he will pivot an appeal to the general election voter. >> john fund, thank you so much. >> thank you. we have senator ted cruz out of the running. governor john kasich is way
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focusing his campaign on another adversary, hillary clinton, of course. among non-trump supporters an overwhelming majority will not vote for her. clinton, meantime doesn't fair too well with bernie sanders supporters right now. a third say they would definitely vote for clinton if she is the democratic nominee. we are joined by daniel halper. good to see you. >> likewise. >> you know, look, politics is a bloodsport. it gets a little rough and tumble. but this year, according to the polling data you have two of the most polarizing figures ever as the presumptive nominee, trump
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and clinton. are they so polarizing their views are fixed? >> it remains to be scene. we are a couple hours into donald trump being the presumptive nominee. and hillary clinton lost tonight. and the big news is the donald trump news. but hillary clinton is mathematically the favorite and looks like she will win the democratic nomination but she keeps losing these contests. and i think, you know, look, donald trump is right to focus on hillary clinton not just to go after hillary clinton but to unite everyone around him. hillary clinton will try to do the same with donald trump i predict. we are coming off a time everybody is talking about the polarization under george w. bush and obama, it's going to get a lot worse. >> by staying in the race does
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bernie sanders do an increasing harm to hillary clinton but it's over on the gop side? >> that's the case they will make on the hillary clinton camp however, it's clear that the minute bernie sanders is out of the race, hillary clinton will pivot to the center. sanders supporters want her to stay to the left. so it's worth it to stay in the race to keep her to the left. that's what they believe in. and they are authentic in their beliefs. you can see their strategy. i think it's genuine and authentic. at what point are you damaging hillary clinton's chances in a general election? and that's the tension on the democratic side. >> the political landscape is littered with successful politicians with severe image problems. richard nixon, need i say more. but he came back and narrowly
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won. donald trump has a serious image problem. it is that he says a lot of reckless things and has an ill-tempered -- or a poor temperament to be president of the united states. at least that's the accusation. is that something he can massage and change? >> he will have to if he wants to win. now the republican primary has been beneficial to him and it has been tailor made for him. he is strongest among white men, which happens to be a strong majority of the republican party. so that has helped him thus far in order to get beyond that and in the general election, he has to do better. there is no question. there are not enough white men for him to win on that alone. he needs women and minorities if he wants a chance.
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>> are you saying that white men are the only ones he hasn't insulted? >> he has insulted plenty of people but those are his most ardent supporters. >> good to see you. thank you. >> thank you. donald trump is now the presumptive gop candidate but will he be able to wow the traditional republican voters. and next up the challenges he faces with a general election strategy. >> remember this, our think is very simple. it's make america great again. we will make network great again. we will start winning again. you will be so proud of this country very, very soon. thank you all. thank you very much. the call just came in. she's about to arrive. and with her, a flood of potential patients.
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trump's strategy. >> let's look at the map and follow up on what charles was saying. >> i would like to talk about the voters and trump has pulled out 64% more voters this cycle than in 2012. new voters. so i believe instead of the states being red and blue they are going to be purple for trump. the gop has an opportunity to bring people of color and women to the party. but it's all on messaging, it's all on messaging. if we get the message right and unite behind trump we will be victorious. >> what are the key stays?
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>> florida and ohio. a republican cannot win without ohio and dealing with the electoral numbers of the electoral college. so again now, i think trump is going to sweep in the south he's going to take the south. but i think too, that the blue states -- i call them swing states. that's what i call the purple states that trump will be able to take those. >> but we are saying that he has high unfavorable numbers among women and hispanics. how will that impact things? >> women are not monolithic. in my book i have one chapter dedicated to women and i have latinos in limbo. again, it's about the issues. people want results. they are tired of the fighting in washington, d.c. and people don't have jobs. trump has a simple message. and politics 101 to win an election you have to have three
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key components, that is messaging, that is money, and name i.d. trump already has that. now he has to have the party behind him and i believe he can pull some of sanders's supporters. >> some people are saying that in polls that it's interesting that there is a connection these two camps. the associated press says hillary clinton is banking on the support of working-class white voters and, quote, therefore, the unwelcome reception she received in appalachia is striking. is she alienating that key demographic? >> people don't trust hillary. people have seen trump's results. also, regarding hillary not only dealing with your poor voters but also your black voters she's going to have a problem with if she rides on her husband's coat
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tails because three strikes and you're out. african-americans are upset that some of their relatives are in the prison system and will stay in the prison system. she has to explain that. there is a disconnect between old politics, the establishment politics and new politics and i think trump has the key. >> and sanders, too, he is hitting her as the establishment, wall street, big money candidate. what impact is he having? >> he's having a great impact. he and trump both are registering new voters. and i think bernie and trump are great for america. they nay not be great for their parties right now but they are great for america. the reason why i do what i do, i want people to listen and be informed before they vote. and the fact that bernie has so many young people behind him makes me pleased. >> thanks as always.
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is it all about messaging? >> and how much can donald trump recover from all his past controversial statements? we're going to talk to our panel coming up.
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back with the panel now, ellen ratner joins us, journalist judy miller and tony -- is with us. let's talk about why a great many people are surprised that ted cruz did as well as he did and won as many states, votes, delegates, second only to donald trump. so ellen, why did he end up losing? >> i think there were several issues. one it was fiscally focused not so much on social issues which ted cruz has made as his hallmark issues. secondly. his father came out and talked about god and voting for him. i don't think that helped in indiana. thirdly, donald trump came out
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with this lee harvey oswald thing which is crazy, but that didn't help even though it didn't necessarily hurt. it didn't help. >> it just happened today. but judy -- >> there were also so many unforced errors that ted cruz made, himself. i mean, whether or not it's the hail mary or the hail carly pass for her one delegate, i don't think that helped him. i think the way in which he ran the campaign didn't help him. i think the fact that he was -- would have been the most conservative candidate since barry goldwater in a state like indiana didn't help him. there were a lot of problems with the campaign and john boehner calling him lucifer in the fresh just as he was trying to get traction with carly.
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>> trump did well with conservatives and evangelicals in indiana. was ted cruz too conservative not just in indiana but elsewhere? >> donald trump did extremely well in the conservative evangelical south. i think the comments earlier are right. i think this is a largely economic contest or i would almost say nationalistic contest. three things animate trump support. the one we know is anger. that is certainly there. the second is the sense of nationalism. and the third is a sense of pragmatism. i don't think this as conservative an electorate as ted cruz anticipated it would be. he ran to trump's right. that was the smart play to break out from the pack of 17. but the closer to the end of the contests, i think that trump had the much wiser coalition of support. >> you know, judy, yes, donald
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trump will rail against hillary clinton's e-mail scandal, benghazi, the list goes on and on. but in the end people vote their wallets. that's what affects them the most and the one thing that hillary clinton can brag about is she was part of the obama administration which has run up 73 consecutive months of gdp growth. >> and she can run on experience which is going to be so important. she can also run on the fact that she was the only woman in the room when bin laden was killed. she can also run on the fact that she will argue again and again that donald trump is dangerous. and you know, one person whom i spoke to was a foreign policy analyst called him besconi with
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nuks. but we are talking about a man who wants to lead this country who did not know what the nuclear triad was, the three means of delivering nuclear weapons when he started the campaign. we are talking about a man who seems not to know. he says we don't get anything from japan. we export $60 million worth of goods to japan. and she will hone in on that again and again. >> she will probably criticize them for his incredibly vague statements and take it even further and say he is uninformed and naive and incompetent to be president. >> he has made so many misstatements and all over the map on so many things. he has said that south korea and japan, perhaps. ought to have nuclear weapons. he would not hesitate to use a nuclear weapon in europe. he said a lot of things that
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will terrify people. he said them on camera again and again and again. >> you know the one thing that we haven't talked about much tonight, ellen, and that is this pending decision by the fbi to make a referral; to the department of justice over hillary clinton's e-mails and whether or not she broke the law, not once, not twice, but repeatedly, arguably 2,000 times. that's how many classified documents have run through her private, in the basement, e-mail server and whether she in doing so risked national security. depending on what the fbi and the doj does that could change the equation dramatically. >> there are a lot of things that could change the election drastically. with her she has not been interviewed by the fbi. so that's one thing. and two i've always argued that she should say they broke into
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our personnel records this might have been safer, which it might have been. >> you are shaking your head on that one. i don't think that anyone thinks a private server is a negative. it's a problem for her. we know the fbi has given immunity to one person who worked on that server. >> you know, lost in all of this, tony is she handed it over to people who were not authorized, for example, the company that was storing it. we'll leave that because we're out of time. >> we have more with the panel coming up. bernie sanders says his win in indiana signals more victories to come. is it wishful thinking? we'll talk more about that coming up.
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hello, everyone. welcome to america's election headquarters. let's take a look at the latest numbers from the hoosier state. ted cruz is losing to donald trump by more than 15%. as a result the texas senator has announced he is ending his campaign for president. >> and trump is now just 190 delegates short of clinching the nomination. he can cut into that number when 70 delegates are up for grabs in nebraska and west
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virginia combined. >> on the democrat side bernie sanders is pulling off an upset over hillary clinton. sanders picking up a dozen delegates on the democratic front runner. >> but still his path to the nomination has not gotten any wider. the democratic front runner holds a commanding lead. she has 8 had you more -- she has 800 more delegates and 321 of which or whom are pledged. let's begin with the nice big headline certainly, the gop chair announcing that donald trump is the presumptive nominee, quieting months of speculation about, well, you know, the cc, contested convention. hi, kristen. >> i am not sure what is more surprising, the chair of the rnc is calling trump the presumptive nominee or that ted cruz dropped out. you know, up until last night cruz said that he was in this all the way to the convention. but then when trump beat him
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in indiana by 16 points, cruz declared his path to victory had closed. >> together we left it all on the field in ipped -- in indiana. we gave it everything we've got. the voters chose another path. >> trump called cruz's decision to drop out a very brave thing to do. he also congratulated cruz for being tough, smart and, quote, one hell of a competitor. trump made these remarks a few feet away from the now famous escaloators in trump tower that he road down on the way to announce he was running. that was 10 months ago. now he has seemingly clinched the nomination before clinton has secured the democratic one. the chair said this on twitter, quote, donald trump will be the presumptive nominee. we all need to unite and focus on defeating hillary clinton. here is how trump responded.
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i want to thank the committee. he is doing a tremendous job. it is not an easy job. now he is down to one. [applause]. i will have to ask you folks to explain the status of that. but he has done an amazing job. >> technically john kasich is still in the race, but he is refusing to drop out even though two of his rivals that have more delegates than him have already dropped out. kasich didn't speak, but his chief strategist issued a statement saying, quote, tonight's results will not alter the campaign plans. our strategy has been and continues to be one that involves winning the nomination at an open convention. make no mistake. trump believes he has only one real competitor and that is hillary clinton.
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we are now in general election season at least for the republican party. and to think a few weeks ago it seemed it was almost certain we were heading to a contested convention. >> no i had cking. no kidding, thanks. 93% of the republican vote in 2012 and he won the independents by 4 or 5 percentage points and lost the election. so you can see what donald trump has. when you get down to it, there are more democrats in the country than there are republicans. the republicans have to win nearly all of their potential vote. >> more on the independents on the election. the senior advisor to romney's 2012 campaign and he joins me from the bureau in washington, d.c. is that one of the challenges? he not only has to get all of
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the republicans, but he has to peel away some democrats and a bunch of independents. >> yeah, look. he has problems on both fronts. he has to unite the party and that looks like a big if right now. right now it is probably 20% of the party at least that is very reluctant to get behind him. he will have to do more than he has done. he has not done anything other than attack hillary clinton which is exciting to us republicans who want to see the fire that trump has been able to train on our own party, and we are excited to see that, but that is not enough. temperment -- temperament is a big issue. there is a lot of skepticism if he has any interest in governing as a conservative. we will have to see if he can do that. on the out reach to democrat
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and independent front i think you will have the same temperament issues, but he will have a better chance than most. >> there are some fairly prominent conservatives and prominent republicans and long-time supporterses and activists who say under no circumstances will they vote for donald trump. in fact, some including charles koch said i will vote for hillary clinton before he would ever vote for donald trump. people like the nebraska governor and all of these are fairly prominent republicans, and they are not going to vote for donald trump. huge problem for him? >> well, i think it could be. we don't know how big of a group that is. it is going to be an active debate in this next couple months. it is up to donald trump. it is not up to just everybody
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who didn't support donald trump to come around and support donald trump. it is up to him to make some out reach and make reassurances that he has temperament and that he will not be making crazy conspiracy theories against ted cruz. >> i wonder if they are representative of a larger group of people across america , and to that extent if it is true that donald trump has an image problem he probably wouldn't even dispute that himself. what does he do about it? does he try to refashion himself ? and if he does it too much maybe that will alienate the people who were attracted to them. >> he has a challenge of not losing his brand. it is of being brash and in your face and he is a great insulter. there are so many negatives on her. whether or not he can reach
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out to women, he has a huge problem with millennials hispanics and minority votes will have to find a way to do that and it remains to be seen how he does that. donald trump came down the escalator and he launched his presidential bid and i must say a great many pros ridiculed the idea as nothing more than a vanity campaign. how can so many have miss judged so badly? >> i think we all miss judged how solid his support was when he taped into the immigration issue and when he taped into the other issues that were really hot button issues this solidified a good 30 -- at first it was 20 and then it was 25, 30% of the republican electorat electorat. and in a huge open field like
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it was, 17 candidates that was enough to keep him going and he ended up being -- he ended up being very effective in destroying his opponent. whether or not he can be a unifyer, that re-- unify yes, sir, that remains to be seen. >> he didn't spend much money. he had little in the way of organization. not many policy speeches. he broke all con veptions and i guess it is because americans wanted something different. kevin sherid o -- sheridan thank you for being with us. bernie sanderses is admitting in order to win the nomination he will have to convince super delegates to flip sides. he reports on the democratic primary in indiana. hi, brian. >> hi, patti ann. that's right. bernie sanders is literally gets the upset win in indiana, but he is refusing to give up
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despite the lead and he is called by the democratic establishment to step down. >> secretary clinton thinks this campaign is over. i have bad news for her. >> i do not deny it for one second that we have an uphill battle in front of us. we have a narrow path to victory, although it is a narrow path. >> although delegates are awarded in the democratic primary sanders picks up about 43 of those -- at least 43 -- and clinton gets 37 which means while sanders won tonight he picks up little ground. clinton is over well dash overwhelmingly in the lead. the party officials can pick anyone at the convention and they are more than double that. his path is not impossible, but it is improbable hurting
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hillary clinton's chances. sanders believes this win in indiana will be the first of a new streak of wins in west virginia next tuesday and then kentucky and oregon a week after that. he believeses if he carries momentum into the convention he can convince delegates to flip support to him and they will see what poll repeated looy show -- repeatedly show. they all but ignored sanders and continuing to attack like she has already clinched the nomination tweeting donald trump is the presumptive gop nominee. chip in if you agree. we can't let him become president. >> a prolonged primary is the last thing the democratic establishment or hillary clinton supporters want. it could weaken her and she swril to worry about sanderses supporters. sanders denies that his
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staying in the race will hurt the nominee against trump. he said it is good for the democratic party and it will keep younger people and independents who overwhelming lisa port him interested in a higher voter turnout. patti ann? >> thank you. >> and still with us is our political panel and the bureau chief of talk media news, author and pulitzer prize winner and the executive vice president of jamestown associates. thanks for sticking with us all three hours in the middle of the night. so cruz is now out of the gop race and that leaves kasich and trump. there has beep this theory that there is a threshold he can't climb. with cruz out of the race does kasich get all of cruz's supporters or do some go to trump? >> i call it now one and a half men because ted -- john kasich is really operating in
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this kind of odd place where he has been rejected time and time and time again by the voters. it seems to be holding on to this inexplicable rational. the only way it could have even been possible is if trump does not get the 1237 threshold. you are seeing a lot of people move toward trump. there are theories that even other former foes like marco rubio are beginning to warm up to trump. there is no longer the unified anti-trump at never trump movement. it never existed in the way that was once reported. the other larger issue is that even as it stands now they would not allow kasich to be considered on a second or third ballot. there is a seven or eight state flesh hold of winning. i think john kasich is doing himself a disservice. he is a terrific governor and a terrific chairman of the budget committee, but he is
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embarrassing himself. >> i think he does look better and better as a vice presidential candidate if he would sign on with donald trump. i think the resistance is that the establishment figures like john kasich to somebody like donald trump will be indicative of how well the party is going to be able to heal this rift. if donald trump tries to make himself over, the kinder, gentler, nicer man we saw tonight talking about ted cruz whom he called all kinds ever things, are you going to have people like anne coulter tweeting as she did "i don't want a makeover. i want him, donald trump, to go back to being donald and tweeting juvenile photos of ted cruz. i mean this is the base. this is part of the appeal, the angry man.
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i don't know how far he can walk away from that. >> ellen, you are an ohio gal and you are fond of kasich. his argument all along has been the anti-trump people, if you add them up and put them together, they are going to beat trump. now we are seeing trump over 50%. kasich says he is not interested in the vice president. he is running for the top spot and he is hanging on to the contested convention. what do you make of it? >> i make it that john kasich will run for vice president and no matter what he says we have seen a lot of people say a lot of things they don't mean for sure. >> and that would be a great viable means of egress for john kasich. he would be strong for donald trump not only for the regional balance, but the fact that trump is going to need someone who understands how government works and john kasich has demonstrated that. >> and he will need a lot of people.
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as judith is saying there are gaps in his knowledge and he is trying to educate himself in a lot of ways. it will hinge on his staff. he will need good advisors. any of you have any names you think? >> the problem is with his foreign policy team and i heard this again and again even from people who have been sought after and whose advice -- his aids have sought after is when they actually show up he doesn't have time to talk to them. donald trump has been running an impromptu race given to long, stem winding speeches. you cannot do that in a general election. he needs a farber staff. if he does not he will lose. >> he needs to listen to his far better staff. one of the real danger is the question mark about whether he even understands if he needs to know more than he knows. >> this was not a staffing implication for the administration as much as
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tonight the untold story is the successful operation is to make sure the door was shut closed and tight for ted cruz to have the intra party processes. he clearly showed the ability to pick the right staff and stick with them and allow them to do their jobs and he did it well. tonight is the result with cruz dropping out of the race. >> interesting. thanks, panel. we are coming back to you later. ted cruz vowed to take it to a contested convention, but in indiana the curtains closed on his campaign. >> coming up, how will his exit shape the rest of the2016 presidential race. show me movies with romance.
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show me more like this. show me "previously watched." what's recommended for me. x1 makes it easy to find what you love. call or go online and switch to x1. only with xfinity. people have been talking about what happened 40 years ago at the republican convention in kansas city. our party's last contested convention. when i look back at that convention in missouri, i think of the speech that ronald reagan gave to our party. he spoke not of the next four years and he saw not the close
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horizons that are of the interest of those who seek to build their own fortunes in the short-term, but instead he looked to the distant times that concerned the men and women whose purpose it is to secure the blessings of lip tee to their possible -- posterity. ronald reagan spoke of the next hundred years and the generations of americans who would come to know whether our nation had escaped the exsew sten shall threat of nuclear war and know whether our party succeeded in its fight against the erosion of constitutional freedoms that only grow and multiply under rule of the democratic party. ronald reagan smoke of the purpose that defined our party then and that must unite and drive our party now. [applause]. the republican
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party of ronald reagan and george herbert walker bush ensured that thousands of nuclear missiles that the soviet union and the united states targeted eep other were never fired. and that soviet communism was assigned to the ash heap of history. they fought hard so that our american freedoms were not lost to any foreign foe nor sacrificed in any domestic agenda. from the beginning i have said that i would continue on a as long as there is a viable path to victory. tonight, i'm sorry to say it appears that path has been foreclosed. together we left it all on the
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field in indiana. we gave it everything we've got, but the voters chose another path, and so with a heavy heart, but with boundless optimism for the long-term future of our nation we are suspending our campaign. but hear me now, i am not suspending our fight for liberty. [applause]. i am not suspending our fight to defend the constitution. to defend the christian values that built america. our movement will continue. and i give you my word that i
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will continue this fight with all of my strength and all of my ability. >> well, seeing the hand writing on the wall write large you might say, ted cruz has dropped out of race for president. >> we are following a heated primary fight with donald trump. can the gop party unite behind the real estate mogul? we'll look at that challenge coming up next.
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i have to tell you that i have met some of the most incredible competitors that i have ever competed against right here on the republican party. you know, we started off with that 17 number and just so you understand, ted cruz, i don't know if he likes me or he doesn't like me, but he is one hell of a competitor. he is a tough, smart guy. >> did your head just get whiplash there? donald trump suddenly saying nice things about ted cruz. you know, the guy he was calling lying ted every day? anyway, i can't do it justice the way he says it. now that ted cruz is out of the race and he needs his supporters, well, it could be a tough fight to get them.
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among nontrump voters 51% said they would not vote for trump in a general election. he joins us here in new york and you may recall the national review in january ran an entire issue against trump. god to see you. everybody always says after their favorite candidate lost, oh i will never vote for anybody else. and then they do six months later. the passage of time and the dynamics of the race moves forward. and then people forgive and forget. is that what is going to happen here? >> i think to a large extent, yes. 1976 when ronald reagan lost to gerald ford that was a very bitter fight. it lasted well into august and not may. and there were real bad feelings coming out of the convention. but ford closed the gap from 17 points down to jimmy carter.
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he was losing by two points. hillary clinton and barack obama had a very, very bitter campaign. it was close to a third of democrats were disillusioned with barack obama with female supporters of hillary. obama managed to get most of those by the november election. donald trump has some real challenges. the campaign has been unique in some respects. it really is up to him to decide what kind of a campaign he is going to run, and how much out reach he will reach. >> they are devoted to keeping track of those he has insulted, women, hispanics, disabled people, muslims, journalists, but that's okay. pow's war veterans, asians, iowans who he famously said
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how stupid are they? the one thing that stands out with the most disparaging remarks and which is vital to winning is women. >> and tonight was a stark reminder of that. donald trump carried male voters by 23 points over ted cruz, but by only 4 points among female voters. he has got to close that gap. there is no way he will climb the mountain in november. >> 27 million hispanics are eligible to vote this coming november. that is a record high, john. the largest voting block are women. they are incredibly influential the last time around and what about latinos and hispanicsesses and so forth?
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>> trump has some support because people recent the fact he is jumping the line and people who came legally and those who came illegally. the gratuitous insults and the disparage meant has bt -- hasn't helped. it will be interesting to see what kind of out reach efforts he tries to make of the hispanic community. they keep a poll average of all kinds of things including the disapproval rating. the poll average is 65% of americans have a negative opinion of him. and trump has a loyal following, but with a hard ceiling. the problem is his current base of support is not big enough to get him elected president. what do you think?
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>> he proved me wrong and he has busted through the ceiling. if hillary clinton is a democratic candidate she has a trustworthy problem. 60% of the american people don't view her as honest and trust wore she. trass worthy. i have never seen a case where two candidates from the walking wounded parade are going up against each other. >> that's a great way of putting it. as always, good to see you. thank you. >> thank you. >> and that brought chuckles from our panel over here. still with us is the bureau chief of talk media news. well, rex a first of all to what john fund had to say. judith? >> i agree.
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it is playing well to attack the gop establishment. let's remember that the people who are being called upon to support him, the establishment have had some impressive victories. i mean, they have elected and they have won the largest majority in the house of representatives since 1920 ai. there are 31 governorships at stake. the republicans control the senate. a great deal is at stake and i think many, many republicans are afraid that donald trump is going to take them down and not just at the presidential level, but at the congressional level there is so much righting -- riding on this and he is suddenly the standard there. it is just too hard without losing the base.
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we are hearing other candidates are concerned about the trump affect on their candidacies. >> quarterback they should be concerned and we know that there have been coat tales to presidential candidates. donald trump in most of his speeches where he has won starting with new hampshire has sounded very presidential. he also said he is going to unite the party. this is a man who has pivoted quickly and may be able to unite. just wait. we never thought he would be in this place tonight. >> the ability to make the quick pif slot and with the power he now has, unify the party. i always thought he had the ability to grow the party. i think he made an interesting point which is the fact assumed a sealing for donald trump. the reason is this and it is
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not getting enough attention. 60% increased turnout on the republican side. 20% decreased turnout on the democratic coyed -- democratic side. people are forgetting it happened during his candidacy and that will have an impact on the final outcome. >> we will leave it there for the pam and get back to you after the break. evangelicals are a key part of the republican base. >> donald trump is the presumptive nominee. where do the evangelicals turn, next.
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our fox news exit poll shows 47% of evangelicals surveyed supported ted cruz. 43% supported trump just a four-point difference p does this mean trump could have a chance to win over the evangelical vote? thank you both for joining us. >> thank you for having us. bruce ash ford asked what about those who are evangelical, but cannot imagine the thought of a evangelical supported trump nomination. there are some who cannot count the thought of a trump
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nomination. >> patti ann, in 2012 it was not just barack obama that defeated mitt romney. republicans defeated mitt romney. folks stayed at home. and this time if they stay at home then hillary clinton deserves to win. we know where she stands dealing with the social conservative issues. having said that with trump having huckabee and the endorsement i think he will give hillary a run for her money. iffy van gel -- if evangelicals are going to have a voice it will be more than the special religious interest arm of the republican party. daniel on such issues like
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abortion and they are closer from their values. >> it is probably a consideration of a lot of evangelicals. >> it is how well donald trump actually did with evangelicals throughout the election. when you are writing the autopsy for the ted cruz campaign one of the key facts is he didn't do as well as he was expected to do among the evangelicals throughout the race. that's why he lost in south carolina and that's why he lost in a lot of key races that set him up for failure. donald trump has not done as well as a front runner. he is not a conservative the way mitt romney has been. so it is all a little confusing and there is quite pat. they are making a decision based on who is on the ballot and who represents their
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interest. i think the republican party has been home to evangelicals and they will stay that way for the most part going forward. >> patti ann, to answer your question, have you one issue voters where there was an abortion issue in tennessee and folks didn't vote in tennessee because of that issue. and if there was somebody that supported abortion or that was pro-choice they didn't vote for them. you do have some of the one issue voters that will stay at home. and that's fine but we have got to get out the vote for trump to win. >> well evangelicals point out that they are not one single voting block and we are wrong to assume that they will vote the same way. daniel, do you see their vote splitting? >> certainly. i think a lot of people would say look, the most important issue to me is jobs and donald trump offers a creative and trent take on the economy. let's try our luck with him.
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there will be evangelicals like that. they say my issue is abortion and donald trump doesn't get past the test. the key question for him going forward is how can you expand the voters? you have a certain number of traditional conserve at thes. dsh dash traditional conservatives. you want to get democrats while keeping those voters that helped to get him this far. >> you need to expand and build on what you have and not lose voter. >> it is messaging, messaging, messaging. he is taking some women from hillary, even though we want to say he is unpopular. they are not monolithic. it is all in messaging. i believe people will cross over and vote for trump. >> angela and daniel, thank
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you so much. >> thank you. >> a big night as we have been saying in the gop nomination race. >> we will have final thoughts from our panel. don't go away.
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welcome back. it has been an historic evening for donald trump. all but completely securing the nomination ted cruz has dropped out. so we now have a billionaire with no political experience and no military experience, and that is pretty unique let's turn to our panel for final thoughts. he rewrote how you can win a campaign. not much of a ground organization and didn't spend a lot of money. there were massive campaign rallies and drew people think hundred ever millions of earned media. tonight was something in this contest. he is close to clinching his party's nomination ahead of hillary clinton there is no
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longer talk of a contested convention. the only shot at a contested convention is him trying to force him on the democratic side. the metamorphosis you will see is critical. donald trump has a lot of power in his hand. he can unite this party and grow this party at the same time. he has a delicate roadway to do that and that's what i will be looking for in the next few weeks. >> i am going to be looking at independents and turnout and the news yample -- and the enthusiasm gap. but donald trump has a very difficult road ahead of him. a man who calls women pigs and december gusting animals and the things he has called women his negativity among hispanic americans and the fact that romney won 44% and barack obama won 55% and that was one of the differences in the election.
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i don't think he can change himself into a defender and promoter of women. >> it is interesting that the democratic national committee put out a statement saying they will hold accountable donald trump for his rhetoric and dangerous ideas and lack of judgment every day between now and november eighth. >> he has disparaged people and groups, that is true, but what about his position on certain policies whether they are economic policies foreign policies. the criticism he has been enduring is that he is long on exaggeration. >> he has created a cluster of issues that cross every ship. e right he talks about immigration in a way that animates the conservative base
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and the muslim ban on the left and he talks about trade policy that is a lot less interventionist. he walks down the center plapping and he hasn't attacked planned parenthood. donald trump has a unique opportunity to redefine what we see as far as elections are. i don't ehink this will be your structural democratic contest. if he does it successful leahy will win. it is very typical. i am not shocked at all. this is a symetric warfare. we is have come to know the anti-woman and anti-gay and anti-science. >> the big problem for hillary is one of the three people say they will vote for hillary. she will have the enthusiasm
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and some people are choosing between the candidate they disloiked the least. >> it is the principal of the lesser of two evil. we have seen that in other presidential elections. who do you hate the least? >> hearing the words demagog to describe donald. >> bernie sanders you heard him that he insists he can win this thing. can he go to the convention and try to pull a ted kennedy in 1980 and change the rules to allow people who are pledged to be unpledged? i am not just talking about super delegates? >> he can try anything he wants and he might try anything he wants. he feel he is leading a movement in the democratic party and he is not going to give up. if he doesn't on trade et
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cetera hillary clinton may move to the middle as she has been before this and he feel he needs to be in there whether or not to keep her on the left. >> what do you think. is it all over in the democratic race? >> i think it is. baring the primaries we have been calling it or a black swan event i think she is the likely nominee. if anything we have learned from this race it is all of our predictions are so wrong. a little humility is in order. >> many say and some predict that she does get indicted. that's not good news for bernie sanders it could be somebody else. >> you have a convention process that will step in and have a candidate they prefer receive nomination. i don't think they are eager.
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the issue of economic distress has become a nonpartisan issue that bernie sanders and donald trump have their finger on. >> that's our panel and we appreciate you being here. thank you very much. >> thank you so much. >> thank you all three for joining us and greg it has been a pleasure. >> it has been quite a night. donald trump and bernie sanders in indiana with ted cruz dropping out of the race. that certainly changes the dynamic. >> don't go anywhere. "fox and friends first" will have much more on this coming up right now. >> bye-bye.
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it was billed as a make or break race. it was just that. the indiana primary breaking ted cruz and making donald trump the presumptive gop. it was quite a night. >> it was. nice to be here with you. the texas senator calling it quits after a crushing loss in the hoosier state. surprising exit giving the front runner a clear path to the nomination. >> bernie sanders pulling off an upset to keep his hopes alive. >> from the beginning i have saidha

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