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virginia. this is also his first rally since being named the presumptive g.o.p. nominee. and brace yourself, trump, he might come out guns blazing for clinton who right now is also getting attacked left and right for her comments about the mining industry. fox news griff jenkins inside trump's rally and earlier today he spoke to miners in the state. >> please do not touch or harm a protester. [crowd booing] >> greta, we are just moments away from trump's first speech as presumptive nominee and as you mentioned the folks here have been on their feet going wild. they are very fired up. a large part of this audience is, as you mentioned, coal miners and we expect trump to speak directly to them. in fact, the west virginia coal association endorsed trump earlier today. and we were able to go into an active coal mine four miles under ground. take a look. >> all right. here we go. ♪
♪ >> how far do you think we are down? >> four miles underground. >> life in the mines is dark and dangerous. but it's what miners here in west virginia have been doing for generations. >> griff, i want to point out before the miner operator gets to the base of the mine, this is remote to run the miner, this is a new regulation by the pdm that monitors his intake of dust that is he around all day long. is he going to stay within a certain percentage. if he hates limit. he has to shut down and quit mining coal for the rest of the day. >> of course, keeping miners safe and healthy is a top priority in the mines even if that means preparing for the worst. >> griff, this is the mine lifeline that they explained to you going outside. see how the cone is tapered here? this is so when you are going out and you have no light and it's all smoked
up, this let's you know you are going in the right direction. come back this way and it stops, you know you are wrong. >> we have seen a handful of miners here. we appreciate their allowing us to see this is where the coal coming out of the mountain. this is where it has been mined out of these walls and standing on the crart, on the belt and out for energy. >> this is it, bro. >> these days their industry is under siege. we scott up with state delegate ruppy phillips outside the mine. >> from start to finish, the entire line we're talking about a lot of jobs that will disappear if this industry is shut down. >> well, griff, if you go on right now and follow up on what's going on in west virginia, we're on a budget shortfall by millions and millions of dollars. it's going to effect our teachers. there is counties right now that's laying off deputy sheriffs. there is teachers getting laid off. there are schools getting shut down. our state depends on coal. no matter what anybody says,
this country depends on coal. >> rup ye phillips -- rupee is a democrat. he is sitting in the crowd. this speech tonight is one of what many are say something a bit of a victory lap. is he continuing to campaign hard heading out west after tonight. greta? >> griff, thank you. and with the west virginia primary just around the corner, secretary hillary clinton is being clobbered for comments show made two months ago. clinton said the coal industry would go out of business if she becomes president. now, clinton is getting clobbered despite the fact months earlier in november she unveiled an extensive 30 billion-dollar plan to revitalize the coal communities including providing for the training of miners. here are clinton's marsh comments now creating a huge political headache for her. >> i'm the only candidate which has a policy about how to bring economic opportunity using clean renewable energy as the key in to coal country because
we're going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business, right, tim? and we're going to make it clear that we don't want to forget those people. those people labored in those mines for generations losing their health, often losing their lives to turn on our lights and power our factories. now we have got to move away from coal and all the other fossil fuels. but i don't want to move away from the people who did the best they could to produce the energy that we relied on. >> republican west virginia state majority leader mitch carmichael goes "on the record." nice to see you, sir. >> it's great to be with you this evening. what a wonderful event. >> well, it certainly is a lot of people there. all right. so, tell me, a lot of the miners are mad at clinton. tell me why they're mad at her. >> well, you know, i don't believe they are mad. i just believe that people here want to go to work. we want to provide all of
west virginia, all of america and frankly the world with clean energy so that we can power america. these people want to go back to work. they don't want a government program. >> all right. now, are they aware of this program that she proposed in november? or are they just hearing the sort of -- the sound bite from her that the coal industry is going to go out of business? >> yeah. i mean, people hear that gret. and you just cannot turn away from that people realize that no matter how much she tries to walk that comment back, she wants to put these people out of work. and, by the way, the people here are not just coal miners. there are a variety of industries. there is rich, poor. there is people that just want america to be great again. that's why they are here. and they feel the energy in this crowd. it is wonderful to be here. i wish everyone could feel this energy. >> is the thinking of the mining industry as a whole that they don't wanted any help from the u.s. government whatsoever? they don't want to have any sort of job training.
they don't want to have anything that might sort of revitalize the community? >> well, greta, i don't think anyone turns down assistance. what i would say is that's not what we want to rely on. we don't want to rely on some government program to people that want to take our jobs, put us out of work and frankly make it harder on everybody in america. we want to go to work and earn a living. greta, there is a dignity that comes with a job beyond a paycheck. it's the ability to get up and go to work and to train your kids to do the same thing. we don't want these government programs. we want to go to work. >> all right. now, the mining industry has been hit hard. they are proud people. they work really hard. they are really tough jobs. do they need anything? >> well, certainly. i mean, we will need -- do you know what we need really more than anything, is for people to let us work and provide clean, renewable energy. what we have with the coal energy is a beautiful resource for america. when you look at it, the
best thing we can do to improve the condition of human life is to provide clean energy and cheap and effective energy. that's what we're doing in west virginia. we have powered the world. we have built this country. we can do it just allow us to work and provide america and the world the energy resource that we need. >> any idea how many people in that crowd tonight, sir? >> thank you very much. i'm just so excited to be here. i wish everyone could feel the energy in this crowd. >> is certainly looks like a crowd full of energy. thank you very much for joining us. >> i could not hear that comment because it's -- >> it's very loud there. well, donald trump now sits alone atop of the g.o.p. but trump does face what could be an uphill battle to rally the all important republican party leaders. house speaker paul ryan saying this today. >> you have said throughout this process that you will support the republican presidential nominee. now you have a presumptive nominee, donald trump. will you support him?
>> well, to be perfectly candid with you, jake, i'm just not ready to do that at this point. i'm not there right now. and i hope to, though. i want to. but i think what is required is that we unify this party. and i think the bulk of the burden on unifying the party will have to come from our presumptive nominee. i don't want to underplay what he accomplished. he needs to be congratulated for an enormous accomplishment for winning not now a plurality of delegates and now on his way to winning a majority of delegates but he also inherited something very special. >> donald trump just responding in a statement to speaker ryan he says i'm not ready to support speaker ryan's agenda. perhaps in the future we can work together and come to an agreement about what is best for the american people that have been treated so badly so long that it's about time for politicians to put them first. now, that was donald trump. and it's not just speaker ryan speaking up. president george h.w. bush and president george w. bush
both saying they will not endorse and neither will attend the cleveland republican convention in cleveland. do expect another no show governor mitt romney and new york congressman and lou dobbins goes "on the record." good evening, sir. >> good evening, greta. >> nice to see you. what do you think about the fact that the two former presidents say they will not endorse and speaker ryan says he is not ready to endorse? >> well, i'm confident that mr. trump and speaker ryan and hopefully our former presidents that they will be able to come together. there is a lot of shared passion for the future of our country. i'm sure many shared goals. in order to have victories together to strengthen foreign policy, improve our economy, improve education and healthcare, in order for us to do that we need to work together or the last eight years we saw of barack obama are going to get continued with four years of hillary clinton. so it's a necessity for the future of our country, for everyone to come together and come together strong.
>> well, it certainly seems like it's more than just sort of a temporary upset within the party. it does look more like a rupture because a temporary upset and everyone sort of be silent. the former presidents have spoken up and said they will not endorse. former g.o.p. nominee 2012 says he will not endorse trump and says he is not going to the convention. this is a very public spat. this is a lot deeper. this looks like a rupture within the party. so now what happens? how does donald trump try to correct that or fix that or massage that? >> well, i think that mr. trump, speaker ryan, they can have a discussion about where they agree and disagree. when you talk about foreign policy or how to improve our tax code, what to do about common core or repealing and replacing obamacare, if they could sit down at a table they will realize that they agree with each other a lot more than if you are sitting down maybe with hillary clinton at the same table.
mayor ed koch, former mayor of new york city if you agree with me nine times out of 12 agree with me. if you agree with me 12 times out of 12, see a psychiatrist. they may not agree with each other all the time work together. >> you may have to broker that sort of sitdown relationship. but reince priebus is the chairman of the republican national committee, talked to our sean hannity and he said this about speaker ryan. >> i talked to him this afternoon after he made his comments. and i talked to donald trump, too. and they are both committed to sitting down and work -- and actually talking this out. both donald trump and paul ryan are meeting next week to talk about these things. i think it's going to work out. but, you know, in some cases, people are not going to be instantly on board. and i know that can be frustrating for some people. but i think everyone has to have a little bit of the steam to get out and get everyone settled down. and i think that this is
going to come together. >> and you see the rest of that interview with sean tonight at 10:00 p.m. i guess i go back to this, congressman is that it still strikes me that the two are going to sit down as chairman preebz says next week, why is the dirty laundry being tangled -- dangled in front of the american public now if they have the intention of getting it worked out. that doesn't seem like a good idea. >> speaker ryan's comments also talking with optimism that he wants to work it out. i mean, it's not like this is something that is permanent. i think it's very temporary. and the fact is that the keys to the white house, the oval office are either going to hillary clinton or they're going to donald trump. and if we don't make donald trump the next president of the united states, we're making hillary clinton -- bill clinton becomes the first man. the future of our country at stake and not only four years in the white house but what kind of a supreme court would we have if hillary clinton was picking the next three or four justices?
that's a generation or two generations the future of our country, much beyond just one term in office. so, the necessity of them sitting down next week, working it out, talking about their priorities, finding common ground and achieving results, it's important for america. >> congressman, thank you. and as noted, governor mitt romney, 2012 nominee is not going to endorse donald trump. we just got news that former texas governor rick perry, he has now just recently in the last few moments endorsed donald trump. so, thank you, congressman. >> thank you, greta. >> and right now, donald trump is about to take the stage in charleston, west virginia. this is his first rally since his big night in indiana becoming the presumptive g.o.p. nominee. "fortune magazine" nina easton and the hill's a.b. stoddard. nina, does it matter that governor mitt romney says no to donald trump? >> yes. and it matters -- it's funny because donald trump -- and it's not just mitt romney thing, it goes beyond that donald trump likes to say
that historic member number of voters voted for him in this primary. also historic number of voters didn't vote for him, voted against him. and the rupture in the party is so deep. i mean, you can portray it just as the elites because you have the two living republican presidents not endorsing him. you have got mitt romney. you have got speaker ryan. it goes beyond the elites. there is deep concern within the republican electorate about donald trump not just his positions, but his temperament and suitability to be president. and i don't think you can just overcome that by sitting down and talking as reince priebus suggested. i don't think that's going to go away. >> does he have -- this is sort of a numbers game and you probably don't know. this i don't know this. does donald trump have more votes at this time from voters than governor mitt romney did in 2012? >> he does. >> so he has the voters? he doesn't have the party elites? >> he does. but nina is right. he also turned out record
turnout against him. so it's not only that he has -- the turnout is on both sides. it's higher against and higher for. it's not that he has inspired record turnout and he has beat romney's number. he also inspired more people to come to the polls to vote against him. more people have voted against him. i'm going to say right here given that. given the disgust with hillary clinton that she is facing on the opposition to her and then her high negatives. you wonder if there is an opening for a third party candidate. >> 25% of the electorate apparently has plans to sit it out. things could change. some kind of blossoming of the inner flower of donald trump or hillary clinton could happen. it doesn't look so great right now. >> is the republican party rupture deeper than the one that we are at least seem to be seeing. >> congressman zeldin i think is true. it doesn't seem like
something temporary and something that's just going to go away. >> they are all focal about it. >> it's a big crowd of people. it's on the issues. paul ryan's most telling statement today was if he wants to be our standard bearer he has to be the pearer of our standards. he kept talking about the core principles of the republican party. donald trump loves the obamacare mandate. planned parenthood. he is anti-immigrants and antitrade. he loves imminent domain. this is a problem for paul ryan who seeks to shrink the size of government and reform the entitlement program. >> a.b. what strikes me about it and i realize he has a lot of people turned out against him but he has a few of the party -- significant number of the party elites who don't like him. he has a few that he does, governor christie and governor perry just endorsed him and the american voter. >> that's the problem is the voters are not representative anymore. >> i would have rather have the voters than people think smart, nice and decent running for president.
>> the point a.b. is trying to make a point there are voters going to sit at home not just the elite. a large swath of voters who don't want donald trump to be president. >> even though they may not like hillary clinton more. >> even though they don't like hillary clinton more. my point is it's not just the elites. it goes beyond that i think he has got -- the problem with donald trump is every time you think he is going to be presidential and serious like he gave this speech before aipac on foreign policy and the next day attacks ted cruz's wife. for him to stay and rebrand himself and stay on message like that, i'm a wait-and-see person on that. >> i agree that he had the pulse of the republican base better than its own leadership did. that's why he won. but, what we're talking about is the republican sort of establishment, the party structure establishment really struggling with what it means to be a republican because they let someone lead their party is opposed to entitlement reform, who is anti-interventionist. >> anti-free trade. >> it's almost like they are
denying though he is winning. the problem is no matter how much they don't like him he is winning. he is winning. >> they might have to start a new party. they might have to let him represent the republican party. might have to be someone else. their principles and core agenda is in direct conflict with his. >> i think there is a deep divide in this party that he cannot overcome. >> i'm not so sure that that deep divide isn't also in the democratic party but we didn't get a chance to get to that bun because they have the same problem and same issue. a.b., nina, thank you both. >> thank you. >> our southern border is beginning to look like this again. illegal immigrant numbers are skyrocketing. how county border patrol deal with this surge? that's next. catastrophic wildfire forcing entire city to evacuate. we take you there live coming up. [phone rings]
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come in our country. they have to come in legally, folks, otherwise, we don't have a country. we're going to have a strong border? yeah, we're going to have the wall. who is going to pay for the wall? >> mexico. >> get your money ready, pause you're going to pay for the wall. >> donald trump's mexican wall is at the forefront of his 2016 campaign. and brand new numbers show the immigration problems are getting worse. families and you unaccompanied children on the southern border are skyrocketing. the numbers on par with the 2014 wave. and this surge is causing border authorities to struggle to respond. former deputy customs and border protection and partner and co-founder of global security and innovative strategy david ago aguilar goes "on the record." >> good to be here, greta. >> numbers are staggering.
the numbers up 78%. >> 78%. >> why are we getting more children across the border? >> one of the things that is obviously failing, greta, is our immigration enforcement system within our country. and by that i mean the following. if the border patrol is doing everything it can to apprehend each and every entry that is occurring on the nation's southern border there is a handoff to immigration and customs enforcement. they're doing a good job. the health and human services also is taking these unaccompanied children built up capacity we didn't have in 2014 where the pack flow and choke point is occurring is the immigration judge docket system. over 800,000 on the dockets right now. so, that backlog, that inability to basically send these people back, remove them back to their countries of origin is causing a draw of more of these people coming into the country. >> i think it's fair to blame the president of the united states and the u.s. congress. because that's their job immigration, right? >> immigration, yes, is. >> because i take it that
judges want to do their jobs. everyone wants to do his job, right? >> absolutely. >> so the reason they are not doing the job they cannot do the job because they don't have the right laws. they don't have the resources. they don't have any of these -- any of the tools they need? >> absolutely. right now the resources are absolutely critical. but, in addition to to that, are the regulations, the policies and the laws that are in place. look, we have said for a long time we need to revisit that in order for a person that is on the docket to be removed, it used to take as recently as two years ago up to six years to remove them from the country. that's crazy. >> now what is it? >> now we have gone down but not by a lot. it is between three and four years. still a long time. we can't forget during that time these people are allow to do remain here in the country. they are given employment authorization. therefore, they are sending a message back home that come on over. >> did doo they ever show up at court, either? >> there is a tremendous failing for people to show up. >> all right. and once again, that's the president and congress. they know this problem and they let itnd let
it continue. we are banging our head against the wall when we have these conversations. >> absolutely. they there has to be a coming together the president of the administration the country as a whole to figure out what to be done. there has to be cohesive effort. >> where are these kids from. >> el salvador, guatemala mall la and honduras. >> children live in landfills in honduras in guatemala mall la, unthinkable conditions. >> absolutely. >> what about donald trump's idea on the wall? >> i will tell you, i think it's important personally speaking to recognize that our republican nominee is talking about immigration enforcement. but it's also important to note that the wall is but one piece of the entirety of the system that needs to be fixed. it is the wall. it is resources, it is policy adjustments. it's regulations, it's new laws in order to address the system that is being overwhelmed. >> just as a frame of reference reference we have people coming over the southern border how do you compare that number people overstaying visas jfk and
miami airport. >> that's excellent point because that's an area not often talked about. over 40% of the illegal entries, illegal people that stay in the united states come in by wave visa and just plain overstays. so the ability to locate them and identify them and put them in removal proceedings and very critically remove them as quickly as possible from the country is critical. >> let me once again say who is at 3ault. it's the president of the united states and congress and all the men and women who work at trying to sort this out down are, you know, whether it's enforcement or whatever, they are trying to do their jobs. >> that's where the solution resides, yes. >> the president and congress won't do their jobs. anyway, commissioner, nice to see you, sir. >> thank you for having me. >> across the pond they might be warming up to donald trump. hear what british prime minister david cameron just said. that's next. low prices. pinky swear? low prices. eskimo kisses? how about a handshake? oh, alright... the lowest price. every time. staples. make more happen.
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looking at the votes it is plain that donald trump is changing people's minds. not just americans talking about donald trump. during this presidential race trump has been hit hard by world leaders. here is british prime minister david cameron last year. >> i think his remarks are divisive, stupid, and wrong. and i think if he came to visit our country, i think he would unite us all against him. [cheers] >> but now, sounds like the british prime minister is changing his tune. here he is today. >> anyone who makes it through that extraordinary contest leads our party into a general election, you know, certainly deserves our
respect. but what i said about muslims, i won't change that view. i don't change that view. i will -- i'm very clear that the policy idea that was put forward was wrong, is wrong, and will remain wrong. >> growing trend among world leaders, former u.s. ambassador to the united nations ambassador john bolton goes "on the record." good evening, sir. >> glad to be here. >> i guess is he like a lot of u.s. politicians they say one thing one minute about they criticize someone and then they dial it back. they say horrible things about each other and dial it back? isn't that amazing how politicians perform. >> they think we don't have video cameras. >> david cameron has his own problems. he has a referendum on britain's future and the european union coming up. and while it's a close race, most people think if he loses and britain votes to leave the european union, he won't be prime minister at the time we elect our next president, so he is watching his own future more carefully and this ours. >> that june 23rd vote is
huge because the u.k. is the second biggest economy in the eu if they leave that makes a big difference even to us. all right. what about the other world leaders? a lot of world leaders have stepped up and said they are not wild about donald trump. >> yeah. i think there is a huge small c conservatism about foreign governments watch the united states go through election process. they hate change, number one. and they hate uncertainty even more. they are guaranteed change. obviously obama will not have a third term and they are very uncertain about what's going to happen. so, when they see somebody who has never been in politics before, who has come literally out of nowhere from their perspective, their reaction is hard because it's uncertain that it represents change. if trump gets elected in november, the contrast you just showed in prime minister cammeron's remarks will be duplicated in roughly 192 other members of the united nations. >> i should note donald trump is taking the podium, little box on the screen shows that and monitoring it
for when he makes news. the interesting thing is that donald trump could be president and david cameron could not be prime minister or hillary clinton could be president and cammeron could be in or out. >> yeah. and he would go immediately to the back benches and i think would resign shortly thereafter and go to work in the city of london as they call it and make millions of pounds a year which is what exbritish prime ministers do. so these are the vagaries of politics. obviously, american presidential candidate shouldn't worry about what foreign leaders say. they should worry about whether they convince americans to vote for him after that they can worry what the foreign leaders think. >> is there a way to describe the donald trump foreign policy doctrine? >> well, i think the clearest statement we have was the speech he gave in washington a week ago wednesday. and while i certainly don't agree with everything that's in that speech, my foreign policy views haven't changed just because we now have a republican nominee. nonetheless, i thought that speech, if it articulates what he really believes,
brings him within the republican party mainstream. and given that the iron law of politics in november is either he is going to be president or hillary clinton is going to be president, and since i would also like to see preserving the republican majority in the house and the senate, i think the conclusion is pretty easy. >> we only have 30 seconds left. is secretary clinton's foreign policy doctrine much different than president obama's foreign policy doctrine. >> i think it's indistinguishable. >> shoe would like it that spin to revale it's not true. as proof i would offer all 600 pages of her memoir state department hard choices. i am writing about this going forward in her own words. very hard to find differences with obama. >> ambassador, nice to see you, sir. >> glad to be here. >> a husband and wife duo vaporized by u.s. air strike in syria. husband from sudan and wife from australia. horrible human beings,.
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arthur buckle walking into a cvs pharmacy in new jersey, a stolen chevy silverado was found in the parking lot. police telling the community to be on high alert. a missing miami police k-9 found safeut of his handler's home late last night. today he was found sitting on the porch of a nearby home relaxing in the shade. he and his handler had a heart-warming reunion. lots of nostalgia at the video game hall of fame. space invaders among the inductees released 1978 atari. blast from the past. first 3-d game that let controllers control the action when it was released in 2001. sonic the hedge hold, zelda and sims also inducted. that's tonight's speed read. brand new information on the hacking of secretary clinton's private email
server. fox news chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is here. catherine, what's the latest? >> the latest this evening is that there is a single report that states clinton's closest aids have begun the process of being interviewed by the fbi. we have not confirmed that independently it would be in sync with the time line. i would add on tuesday this week mrs. clinton said they had not been contacted by the fbi. >> who is they? >> well, that's. >> who is the they? is she the they? or the lawyer? >> or the lawsuit. >> i don't know the answer to that. any idea the time line when this is going to get finished and wrapped up? >> the political plates at play here i wouldn't even want to speculate. the sense we have from our contacts is that it is reaching some type of climb mass or conclusion. >> the man you spoke to in the -- >> remaining hacker. >> says he hacked into secretary clinton via sydney blumenthal's email address.
is he talking to the fbi? >> what we know from our reporting is that he met with the fbi, secret service, and treasury, at least he says he did when he was in a romanian prison several times. that's kind of a baseline he was able to establish with them. then when he was extradited from romania to the u.s. about a month ago, he told us that he spent over an hour talking to an fbi agent as well as the state department official on the airplane that he took four or five pages of notes. so there seems to be certainly a dialogue that's going on. but can i tell that you he is very willing to talk to the fbi and to cooperate to the extent that he can. >> has the fbi spoken to secretary clinton and do they even need to speak to her to make a decision on this? >> wow, that's a very tough question. to our knowledge they have not spoken to her. it would largely depend on what they learned from her aides in terms of corroborating evidence. what we understood is that they had kept her security clearances so that they could be shown the emails at the end of the
investigation. because, of course, without that clearance, you can't look at top secret information and the focus was those 22 top secret. >> i actually think you could make a decision without talking to her. just look at all the evidence. >> you are smarter than me. >> catherine, thank you. >> thank you. >> and look at this video. it's a wildfire raging and it is not under control. we take you there live next. don't forget to watch hannity tonight at 10 o'clock p.m. eastern. newt gingrich joins sean plus rnc chairman reince priebus 10:00 p.m. on hannity. tablets. so now, there are more ways, for more people... to experience... complete protection from frequent heartburn. nexium 24hr. the easy-to-swallow tablet is here.
down. >> look at this, inferno north of the border. a wall of flames trying a canadian city and all of it caught on camera. the epicenter fort mcmurray alberta where more than 88,000 people have been force to do flee for their lives. the massive wildfire has scorched more than 328 square miles, roughly the size of washington, d.c., san francisco, and chicago all combined. and the fire? it's still growing fast. and now, a gasoline shortage threatening mandatory evacuations. but that's not all. the fire also blocking the only major route out of the city. >> obviously fort mcmurray, being evacuated has been extremely difficult, not just for the province and officials but for the folks who live there. >> you don't know what's burned and what's not burned, when you can go back. and now you are sitting here and all you see is red flames. it's pretty scary. >> across the city, hotels, gas stations, neighborhoods
even the airport totally overcome by the fire. and even with more than 1,000 firefighters working around the clock to take out the blaze, success is still nowhere in sight. >> this is blop insane. >> things happen. weather changes, winds change. it's not going to get good. >> it's time to leave. there is nothing to feel better. my house is in town. it may be gone. it may not be. >> reporter justin is live on the phone in canada. justin, there is -- reporting that a fire is blocking the only road out of that town. do you have any update on that, how many people are blocked so far? >> right, so, at this point there is about 25,000 people who are north of the city. so they are blocked out by this fire. the province had actually flown a helicopter over earlier to see if it was possible to run a convoy of these people south so that's not going to be able to
happen. they actually undertook a mass air lift now and trying to get 8,000 of them flown out of small airports before the end of the day. >> is there u.s. assistance on this? i imagine that you need a lot of extra help because you don't have enough firefighters. >> not yet. they have called in the canadian military. some of those people will be flown out on military transport planes but so far it seems like most of this has been dealt with by local firefighters. alberta gets a lot of forest fires so this didn't come as a surprise. >> 25,000 people blocked because of this road, i mean, that's absolutely horrifying. that's the worst news out of a bunch of horrible news on this. how did this fire start? >> no one quite knows. fort mcmurray is 80,000 people but it's quite remote and just surrounded by hundreds and hundreds of miles of ohler forest. at some point on sunday someones in thed there was a fire going. they haven't figured out how it started, whether it was someone who tossed a
cigarette or whether it was lightning. as of about an hour ago, there is actually a ban on burning anything in this province for indefinite future. >> and so are they getting ahead of this? are they containing it? or not? >> so far it's uncontained. it's actually pushing south right now and there is pretty strong winds that have been pushing it towards the evacuation centers where people had gone to. so over this past day everyone has actually been force to do move even further south than from where they were. >> justin, thank you. and the video is just horrifying. i hope -- i don't know what -- i hope it ends soon and they get this fire out, but it doesn't look good. thank you, justin. and coming up, i will admit, i judge too quickly, but i do want to know what you think about this and i will explain off the record next. of. with the #1 prescribed ingredient. and nothing is more effective at relieving your sneezing, runny nose and nasal congestion.
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if you say merry christmas instead of happy holidays you get jumped. recently hillary clinton said off the reservation she got jumped. which brings me to this the justice department assistant attorney general carol mason wants to eliminate the words felon and convict in referring to released prisoners in doj office of justice programs. when i read that, i rolled my eyes, really? but then i got to thinking, when someone gets stepsed for a crime and does the entire sentence, shouldn't that be the end of it? he finished his time. and a lifelong label like felon adds to the punishment. and if we wanted to punish the offender more, we should have given him more time in prison from the get-go. labeling him for life, a convict or felon is not going to help us and it will impede rehabilitation. and, as angry as we are at criminals and we are, when they get out, we do want them rehabilitated so they don't come -- commit more crimes. so, a label like felon though will stick forever. so i went from rolling high my eyes thinking what a stupidly politically correct
idea to maybe it's not such a bad idea. what do you think? go to my facebook page and post your thoughts. that's my off-the-record comment tonight. and it's time for campaign flash. donald trump is holding a rally at the charleston civic center in west virginia. trump just talked about west virginia's coal industry. >> the miners don't want to leave anyway. is that right? you want to stay here. you want to open the minds. we're going to open the mines. i see over here trump digs coal. look at that trump digs coal. that's introduce. >> that's trump's first campaign event since become the presumptive g.o.p. nominee. and bernie sanders about 150 miles northeast of donald trump he is holding a rally in morgantown, west virginia. >> secretary clinton is campaigning in east los angeles college in monterrey park, california. and, donald trump is celebrating cinco de mayo. trump tweeting this photo with the caption happy cinco
de mayo the best taco bowls are made in trump tower grill. i love hispanics. that's all for campaign flash. see you tomorrow night at 7:00 p.m. right here on fox news channel. "the o'reilly factor" is on. tonight: >> this is to me a classic case of a blustering, bullying guy who has knocked out of the way all of the republicans because they were just dumbfounded. >> hillary clinton beginning to lay the her opposition to donald trump. we will handicap the most raucous political vote in history. >> my instinctive is trump is going to win and beat hillary badly. >> conservative americans remain divided over mr. trump. dana perino has some thoughts about that. >> who is going to pay for the wall? >> donald trump. >> he can afford it. >> also ahead, jesse watters asking the urchins about who they want to lead america. >> bernie sanders should be president because that's