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loretta lynch and the lawsuit that has now been filed against the state of north carolina, the governor there, pat mccrory, the university of north carolina, and the department of justice there. the anti-lgbt legislation, they say, is discriminatory. cavuto will have coverage as his show begins now. all right, thank you. we're monitoring this waiting for the attorney general loretta lynch to spell out her response to the state of north carolina suing the federal government saying it has no business to decide what north carolina was going to do with restrooms in its state and simply states that if you're male biologically, you go to the men's room, female biologically, you go to the women's room. this has gone beyond bathrooms, this is like a modern day freedom of speech issue and well beyond. the attorney general is expected to speak shortly and give her response to the governor of north carolina, effectively suing the united states government over butting into practices that it says are the state's business. not hers.
not its. we'll get the latest from her shortly. meanwhile, speaker paul ryan is saying fine, if donald trump wants me out as chair of the republican convention, i'll go. if that's what he wants me to do, i'm out. this is on the heels of a meeting planned on thursday between the two that could iron out some differences, maybe, maybe not. former gop presidential candidate pat buchanan on the fallout from this. what do you think? >> i think paul ryan made a mistake here, neil. you cannot impose an ultimatum on the nominee of the party and say you got to meet certain conditions or i'm not going to endorse you. donald trump cannot capitulate to that demand. and as a consequence, when they meet, if ryan says, well, i'm not sure i'm going to endorse you or not, i think he's got to stand down as the chairman of the convention. you can't -- >> pat, hold those thoughts. i'm going to the attorney on t
carolina battle. >> -- joined by anita gupta head of the civil rights division here at the department of justice. we're here to announce the significant law enforcement action regarding north carolina's public facilities privacy and security act. also known as house bill 2. now, the north carolina general assembly passed house bill 2 in special session on march 23rd of this year. the bill sought to strike down an anti-discrimination provision in a recently passed charlotte, north carolina, ordinance. as well as to require transgender people in public agencies to use the bathrooms consistent with their sex as noted at birth, rather than the bathroom such that their gender identity. the bill was signed into law that same day and in so doing the legislature and the governor placed north carolina in direct opposition to federal laws prohibiting discrimination on the basis of sex and gender
identity. more to the point, they created state sponsored discrimination against transgender individuals who simply seek to engage in the most private of functions in a place of safety and security. a right taken for granted by most of us. last week, our civil rights division notified state officials in north carolina, that house bill 2 violates federal civil rights laws. we asked that they certify by the end of the day today that they would not comply with or implement house bill 2's restrictions on restroom access. an extension was requested by north carolina and was under active consideration. but instead of replying to our offer, or providing a certification, this morning the state of north carolina and its governor chose to respond by suing the department of justice. as a result of their decisions, we are now moving forward. today, we are filing a federal civil rights lawsuit against the
state of north carolina, governor pat mccrory, the north carolina department of public safety and the university of north carolina. we he aare seek a court order, well as a state wide bar on enforcement. while the lawsuit seeks declaratory leaf,relief, and th university of north carolina as this case proceeds. but this action is about a great deal more than bathrooms. this is about the dignity and the respect that we accord our fellow citizens and the laws that we as the people and as a country have enacted to protect them, indeed to protect all of us. and it is about the founding ideals that have led to this country haltingly in the direction of fairness and inclusion and equality for all
americans. this is not the first time that we have seen discriminatory responses to historic moments of progress for our nation. we saw it in the jim crow laws that followed the emancipation proclamation. we saw it in the fierce and widespread resistance to brown v. board of education. and we saw it in the proliferation of state bans on same sex unions that were intended to stifle any hope that gay and lesbian americans might one day be afforded the right to marry. and that right, of course, is now recognized as a guarantee embedded in our constitution. and in the wake of that historic triumph, we have seen bill after bill in state after state taking aim at the lgbt community. some of these responses reflect a recognizably human fear of the unknown, and it is comfort with the uncertainty of change. but this is not a time to act out of fear. this is a time to summon our national virtues of inclusivity, of diversity, of compassion and
open mindedness and what we must not do, what we must never do is turn on our neighbors, our family members, our fellow americans for something they cannot control and deny what makes them human. and this is why none of us can stand by when a state enters the business of legislating identity and insists that a person pretend to be something or someone that they are not. or invents a problem that does not exist as a pretext for discrimination and harassment. and let me speak now directly to the people of the great state, the beautiful state, my home state of north carolina. you have been told that this law protects vulnerable populations from harm. but that is just not the case. instead, what this law does is inflict further indignity on a population that is already suffered far more than its fair share. this law provides no benefit to society, and all it does is harm
innocent americans. and instead of turning away from our neighbors, our friends and our colleagues, let us instead learn from our history and avoid repeating the mistakes of our past. and let us reflect on the obvious but often neglected lesson that state sanctioned discrimination never looks good and never works in hindsight. it was not so very long ago that states including north carolina had other signs above restrooms, water founteains and public accommodations, keeping people out based on the distinction without a difference. we have moved beyond those dark days, but not without a tremendous amount of pain and suffering and ongoing fight to keep moving forward. let us write a different story this time. let us not act out of fear and misunderstanding, but out of the values of inclusion and diversity and regard for all that make our country great.
let me also speak directly to the transgender community itself. some of you have lived freely for decades, and others of you are still wondering how you can possibly live the lives that you were born to live -- to lead. but no matter how isolated, no matter how afraid, and no matter how alone you may feel today, know this, that the department of justice and indeed the entire obama administration want you to know that we see you, we stand with you, and we will do everything we can to protect you going forward. and please know that history is on your side. this country was founded on the promise of equal rights for all, and we have always managed to move closer to that ideal. little by little, day by day, and it may not be easy, but we will get there together. let me also thank my colleagues in the civil rights division who devoted many hours to this case so far and will devote many more
to seeing it through. and at this time, i will turn the podium over to vanita whose turned leadership on this and so many other issues has been essential to the justice department's work. >> thank you, attorney general lynch, for those very powerful words. throughout the ark of our country's history from tragedies of injustice to marches for equality, there have been pivotal moments when america's leaders chose to stand up and speak out to safeguard the ideal of equal justice under law. and history will record your inspiring words and forceful action today as one of those moments. i also want to take a moment to thank the entire team throughout the civil rights division and the department of justice who worked tirelessly over the last several weeks to ensure everyone in north carolina has the full protects of our laws. today we filed a federal civil rights complaint in federal court in the middle district of north carolina. before i get the details of our legal argument, i want to make
one thing clear. calling hb 2 a bathroom bill trivializes what this is really about. hb 2 translates into discrimination in the real world. the complaint that we filed today -- >> it is a mess. you have the state of north carolina suing the government, the government in turn suing the state of north carolina. all over the use of a bathroom and whether transgenders can use the bathroom of their choosing regardless of their biological makeup. north carolina government made clear that if you have are male biologically, should use the men's room, female biologically, you should use the women's room, regardless of what sex you feel is the case. that was immediately seen as an overreach on the part of the state there and brought a great deal of contempt, canceled a number of conventions, businesses that plan gatherings in the state saying it was unfriendly to the lgbt community and gays period.
it has morphed into something much bigger than anyone thought, but the bottom line is, rather than resolve this in a quiet way that wouldn't resolve any any laws what so ever, now you have a state suing the federal government, the federal government suing the state. pat buchanan, this is a mess. what do you make of it? >> i think the department of justice, i hope the obama administration gets stuffed on this one. the idea that grown men have a right to use girl's locker rooms and girl's bathrooms and all the rest of it, it seems to me is ridiculous. there is no need, no great crisis here in america. and to compare this with a civil rights act of 1964, i go back to those days and the voting rights act and selma in '65, it is ridiculous. there is going -- something is going to happen out of this. some character is going to go into some girl's room or lady's room and some terrible incident is going to occur and there is go to be a terrible backlash.
this country existed for, what, 200 some odd years and we haven't had any problem with this. why can't the minority that is griping about it deal with it. >> you know he what was interesting to liken this and the jim crow laws and what have you, i mean, to put that community in with those who -- >> it is an outrage. >> i guess the bigger point here is couldn't this have been avoided altogether without establishing laws? >> i agree with you 100%. i would say, look, first, let the state decide it. if i were the state, i would say, look, the university should decide it and the businesses, they should decide it. and get out of it. and let these people -- let us work it all out. to have the department of justice and the mighty obama administration now demanding bathrooms and shower rooms and locker rooms be opened up to individuals who are born male, but think they're female is
ridiculous. >> i think someone said even if there was no danger in the transgender community, it might spur the very type of activity -- >> what do you think when some women and girls are in a bathroom somewhere, you know, a restaurant or something and some character walks in. they're creating a problem that did not exist. >> do you think north carolina started it by instituting a law to put -- to codify this one, when common sense could have probably handled it? >> i don't know. i don't know the origins of it. but basically i agree with you, you know, invariably, we get into these things, we got such a society of so many different groups and identities and all the rest. goodwill, we got to work them out together rather than have some law dropped on us by barack obama and the department of justice. i must say, this is almost a parody to listen to this whole thing described as the great battle for civil rights.
i saw -- i was at the march on washington in '63. i was in any number of these things, collisions, it was a great occasion and great movement and to compare that is to compare the sublime to the ridiculous. it happens at a time when retailers are trying to be accommodate i accommodative. that triggered more than 1 million petitions and people said, target, i'm not going to shop at your store. >> and, look, the middle name of corporate america is capitulation. look, take the martin luther king day, 48 states wanted it, arizona voted no, new hampshire voted no. let them vote no. but instead we're going to take away the super bowl and they use all this force to come down when i think the best thing to do is let the people decide, let the community decide, called the principle of subsidiary.
>> bottom line, belaboring this, but just to make a point, right now the way it stands, the federal government wins on this, is that north carolina, regardless of your genitalia, if you feel that you are of the opposite sex, you can use any restroom you want. >> how do you hold somebody to account who says, well, i felt like i was a woman, so that's why i went in there? >> that's the fear. no way to know where this goes. it is what it is. and the battle ensues. donald trump said when this first happened, he was sympathetic to the transgender community and some of the identity crisis. but says someone in the trump tower could go to any restroom they please, but is that a clear enough position or is donald trump maybe the fact because he's from a progressive state, a different kind of a state -- not
set by law. >> he's from new york, a very liberal community and liberal issues up there that nobody knows about. and you have the mayor, the mayor dropping the wood on everybody, on the nanny state. it is a different community. and if that's donald trump's view, that's fine. i think north carolina and north carolina communities have a right to see that their views are represented in their laws and customs and traditions. so i don't have a problem with any disagreement on that. it is just i tend to agree with north carolina and on this issue with ryan, ryan's got to back down, trump can't back down, neil. he can't. that would be a capitulation to the first demand he got after he won the nomination. >> don't be -- you're going to get in the way, get out of the way. >> look, trump cannot capitulate to paul ryan's -- i'm not going
to endorse unless you clarify what you stand for and believe in and he's got to go up there hat in hand and explain it after he's won the largest number of republican votes in any series of primaries in caucuses ever. >> good point. pat, good talking to you. that is the issue front and center here, whether paul ryan is going too far. especially when they talk about loyalty and whether people are breaking their loyalty to donald trump or to the eventual nominee. remember they also said, oh, they would back whoever the nominee was, and when the debates first started last summer. donald trump took a lot of heat for raising his hand and saying he would have a problem with that. he signed on to that oath, but a couple of other candidates, including lindsey graham, and jeb bush have since said not them. jack kemp on what he maybes of all of this. good to have you.
what do you think your dad would think of this? >> well, my dad is not here. i don't know what he would think. nobody could really predict my father. i think one of dad's strengths is he recognized unpredictability is an asset in politics. and people were surprised by the direction that my father went in his political career and that is interesting, that has proven to be really successful for mr. trump. and but with mr. trump, all bets are off. i think the oaths that were taken on the debate stage are -- i wouldn't say they're solemn oaths. >> clearly not. the other side, if you think about it, i should -- donald trump doesn't come on this show, i'm not in the corner for him or whatever. he doesn't want to come on here, seems to think he's treated unfairly, that's fine.
they demanded loyalty tests from him. yet when he wins and gets a nomination easily, they're not making good on their own commitment to a promise they made. do they look like hypocrites? >> i think -- i'm sure many people think they look like hypocrites. but the bottom line is that mr. trump was ready to renege on his oath, it appeared a few weeks ago and i don't think that's that big of an issue. the bottom line issue is what you were talking about with pat buchanan and where does the party go from here? >> why do you think it goes -- bob dole grudgingly, he was not a fan of donald trump, but he would say, he would stand behind donald trump. dick cheney the same. paul ryan, not quite convinced yet. we heard the entire bush family, there is skewing the convention
altogether. do you think that some of these guys end up looking like babies? >> yeah, i think lots oticians babies. i feel like there are times that mr. trump looked like a baby. and he's the nominee. and so this is a time where the conversation has to -- has to get better. and i think speaker ryan, he didn't belittle mr. trump. he said he's not quite ready to endorse him and he wants to get to know mr. trump better. it is unprecedented for the top leader of a party to not know the nominee who is running for president. so i think all of us need to take a deep breath, relax, and there is a long time before the general election. we have a long time before the convention. >> you think they'll all make up and hold hands. >> i don't know. i don't know, neil. it will be interesting to watch how mr. trump morphs into a
presidential persona. and -- >> why should the onus be on him? he won. >> but if he chooses not to represent the conservative ideals and principles that republicans have represented, it is not incumbent upon others to, you know, bow down and kiss the ring and do whatever mr. trump wants. >> we'll see where it goes. thank you very much. good seeing you again. they're calling it moral monday in chicago. more money monday. as our business is growing, and you're on the road all day long, it's exhausting. hi how are you? you're on the fourth floor. thank you so much. hey sweetie! how are you? it's important to stay at a hotel with a lot to offer. that's great! and the holiday inn has really been that. holiday inn has been a part of the team. good luck with the meeting today. thank you. i really think small business is tough.
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at issue, well, no budget, no programs, no money, no way. fox business network's jeff block is caught in the middle of it all day. >> citadel, this is the headquarters, they're checking i.d.s, but the horse already escaped from the barn. this is what happened today, a big protest, folks protesting the fact that there is no budget in illinois and calling on a tax, a graduated income tax, that would tax the wealthy, more heavily than the poor. a tax on the south street tax that would tax all of the trade to take place at the cme in chicago. hundreds of protestprotesters, snuck in, sat down, police couldn't extricate them because they were chained together and they were inside a cylinder that kept the police from being able to separate them, took them an hour to get the folks out, and
it was quite a mess out here. and, well, citadel, of course, big hedge fund, the building, citadel means fortress. today, the fortress was stormed. >> wow. great coverage today, by the way. you were remarkable. >> fun. >> all right. hub bard is a broadcast billionaire, he's very big in campaign donations to pound this point about this country's sudden aversion to wealthy people. >> i'm very disappointed. mitt romney was a terrible candidate, didn't understand how to reach the common person and at this point, it didn't go their way, so they're going to take their ball and go home, sorry. did i approve all that donald trump did and said? no. but he's the candidate. heck of a lot better than hillary clinton. >> one thing that he mentioned -- did make sense that
he went ahead and agreed to this pledge, not to bolt from the party. we never know whether he would have stuck to that if he lost, but he did agree to it. and now the very candidates ripping him a new one, several of them, have bolted from that pledge. what do you make of that? >> i think it is terrible. you give your word, you keep your word. >> what about those who say he is pivoting more than we ever did. he is already changing his view on taxes, on refinancing the government debt, which they say would be tat amount to default. that on the minimum wage, he is shifting positions, he's not waiting for the convention to do it. he said he's not even a true conservative. >> baloney. >> want to elaborate on that? >> as we go -- we bomb or don't we bomb? we have to mack a decision, and you reach things and you'll hear from a lot of people an don't think trump is a fool.
he's proven he's a winner. i think he'll moderate a lot of the views and i think he's still our best choice and he'll have hillary as president. simple as that. >> those who say they will seek out a third party candidate are only dooming the party in so doing, right? >> that's what i think. go for a third candidate. >> you say you would much sooner trust donald trump, paraphrasing, making the supreme court choices than hillary. i was hearing from some of these folks, given his recent pivots, we're not sure what kind of people he would appoint to the supreme court. >> i'm a lot more sure of him than i am of hillary clinton. >> there is that. what do you think of republicans before the convention and we already heard paul ryan say, look, after that powwow thursday, donald trump decides he doesn't want the speaker acting as chair of the republican national convention,
won't do it, he'll step down. what are the odds of that? >> i don't know what the odds are. we had a meaning this morning in minnesota, what do we do about trump and our candidates for the state legislature and my suggestion, everybody agreed was, let's cool off and wait and see what happens. these people aren't stupid. trump is not stupid. the republican party not stupid. let's see how they realign things and what happens in a couple of months. stupid to jump off the wall this early. >> yet many are. donald trump, who said he was tough on this whole campaign is not applying that to the general election. but do you think that will hurt him, his message was i'm paying for this whole enchilada and now they're going to be a lot of folks, maybe like you, helping him out. >> i'll help him out and anybody who wants to see sensible government and get away from the obama message better get on board. whether they love trump or not. >> even if it makes donald trump
look like he's backing away from something he promised, not to be beholden to anyone. >> well, i think trump doesn't have to be beholden to anyone. i think he'll listen to reasonable people. >> do you think he can raise the amount of money he would need in time because all of this is happening so late in the game? >> i would hope so. >> you sound like you have your doubts. >> i don't have doubts. anybody who makes a prediction is a fool. but i think as time goes by, people will realize we have two choices, either donald trump, who may not be our favorite choice, or hillary clinton who is our worst chase. as simple as that. >> do you think this all comes -- it was his language, it was his little marco stuff, jeb low energy bush, you know the drill, all this -- these personal insults.
that's what's not sticking well. and had he dialed that back, maybe sooner. it is too late to say all is forgiven and they're having a tough time with that. what are you saying? >> i didn't like the way he comported himself either. i think it was pretty disgusting and sent a wrong message to our kids, but the bottom line is, do we like him or don't we like him is beside the point. the question is, who is going to do the best job for america and i think donald trump. >> stanley, finally, i'm sure you're familiar with the protests in chicago supposed to spread on what they're calling moral monday. arguing that the poor and middle class are getting screwed by rich guys and they want the rich to pay a lot more -- $23 million more in taxes to help them out. and that this is part of the scene we have seen play out across the country, but it is not a good time to be rich. not a good time to say that to
the american way, especially when barack obama echoed over the weekend at a graduation speech that a lot of the rich just got lucky, that i guess you got lucky. >> i think get lucky, everything we own, and that's what entrepreneurs do and entrepreneurs create jobs and banks create jobs and all of this nonsense about the rich has to be stopped because it is the so-called rich who invest the money, provide the risk and provide jobs and opportunity. >> stanley hubbard spoke his mine on fox business. given a lot of the protesters the business saying the rich aren't the problem, maybe you are. when we come back, president obama calling out donald trump for being too focused on handling his presidential campaign like a reality show. a lot of trump people shot back, this from the guy on 51 different reality shows?
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time. this is not entertainment. this is not a reality show. >> wait a minute. not a reality show, it is the president, why have you been on so many reality shows? >> your first wife -- >> my first wife? do you know something i don't? >> oh. >> i do really well with the zero to 8 demographic. >> really? >> yeah. they love me. partly because i think my ears are big and i look a little leak a cartoon character. >> right. >> i ran a third time, like dong a third hangover movie. didn't work out very well, did it? >> i heard a little sizzle there. yeah. the fact he told me this was a leftover fish from a bear, i don't know if that was necessary. he could have left that out. >> i had no problem with it. i think the president comports himself very well on these and he reaches out to audiences, republicans could only crave to imitate. so have at it. republicans who do a whole lot
worse trying to seek out the same venues. then the to criticize the candidate for sounding like a reality tv program star, i'm thinking, wait a minute, that would be like me offering you dietary advice. should we go there. how often do i say that? shawn duffy, who knows a thing or two about coming from reality shows, and doing okay forhimsel you make of that and whether that was a fair or below the belt criticism? >> this is the height of hypocrisy, number one. and frankly the clip you showed, obama might have a future in reality tv, maybe dancing with ellen or slow jamming the news with jimmy fallon -- >> all of that was fine. you have a good sense of humor. you're pretty fast on your feet, i understand. i think republicans can did worse than to loosen up and seek out the venues. enough people pay attention to
them. >> almost as if he had never been on these venues. >> that's a point. i think obama has done a nice job reaching out to people who don't watch fox all the time or cnn or msnbc, reaching out to a whole new audience and masterful at it. your point is, but then he criticizes donald trump who did a reality tv show. it doesn't make much sense. the fact he's trying to criticize donald trump saying the presidency is serious. this guy came from chicago as a community organizer. and he probably got his money from the government or extorting businesses like stan hubbard who you had on earlier. >> we don't know that that's the case. to point about venues he's been on, american idol, that's okay, myth busters, ellen, running wild with bear grils, couldn't believe this one, shark tank, hello, wwe, professional wrestling, three times between two ferns.
jeopardy, and the apprentice. he has a long history of seeking out these other venues and sort of going along for the ride and being very media savvy. donald trump may be pretty media savvy. >> he is. we have given the president credit for reaching out to new audiences, just this is so hypocritical for him to try to demean donald trump for having done reality tv. that's what his campaign has always been about, a constant eight year campaign to demean political opponents and seeing a shot or angle he can use, the apprentice and donald trump to take him down a notch. i this i donald tru i think donald trump did so well because he was likable on the apprentice. he understands media. i did reality tv. you know how to communicate with people in sentences, in concepts, that they he understand. and that's why donald trump not only resonated on the apprentice, but on the campaign stump, he's figured out how you
communica communicate, sometimes complex issues in a way everyone understands. obama does that well too. >> you think republicans will kumbaya after all that discord? >> i think so. paul ryan and donald have a meeting later on this week. i think maybe paul ryan has taken a page out of donald trump's playbook of holding back his endorsement. i think in the end, paul ryan will get on board. i think conservatives want to make sure that -- i'm sorry, donald trump will buy into our conservative agenda. but i see this as an opportunity. paul ryan has been in politics, 28 years old, working on policy since he was 28, almost 20 years. this is an opportunity to work with donald trump who has been a developer on conservative policy and conservative ideas. also the conservative establishment, elites that are part of the never trump movement have an opportunity to actually
bring him into the fold. help him come up to speed on some of the issues. he's a little bit of a blank slate. you talked about earlier, at one point, he's talking about raising taxes and increasing the minimum wage and maria comes on and says, i'll leave minimum wage -- >> good view. not a matter of reality show, just getting up to speed on that stuff. anyway, like you said, can't be good for one guy and bad for another guy. congressman, thank you very much. >> thank you, neil. all you bernie sanders supporters no doubt feeling the bern. a message from a very establishment player, former democratic governor vote, sit down, shut up.
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i think it will be a great convention. the key to it is sanders people -- the nomination, we'll have a roll call, a demonstration, and support of bernie, he's going to lose the roll call, his supporters have to behave and not cause trouble. and i think they will. i think senator sanders will send them a strong message. >> all right, will they get that message? bernie sanders supporter chuck -- democratic strategist extraordinaire. your guy is going to lose, once the battle is over, sit down, shut up, move on. >> i don't know if the governor remembered what a revolution looks like or sounds like, but it ain't too much of taking orders, a. b, it reminds me of my mama. yesterday was mother's day. when i would be in the room and my sister with me, she's making all the noise, and my mom could
go, all yayou all need to behav you all need to hush. how do you treat all the delegates with the bernie voters at home watching how they're being treated when they're not the one raising the ruckus and we need all these people to show up. >> the argument the governor has is there are more hillary clinton supporters in that room, more delegates, that's what he hopes, i guess, than there are guys like you. so once that vote is final, first ballot goes down, presumably you and your colleagues lose, suck it up, shut up, move on. >> well, if the numbers stay like they are, right now, he's right. she's going to have more delegates, but 40 to 45% of that entire room, who dedicated their delegation to bernie sanders. and to what that means is you can't win an election without having those people with you at the end. i hope calmer heads prevail and we figure out way to have a common knowledge of all of the issues that need to happen and
come out of this thing united. we're not talking down to each other or condescending. >> you think that's going to happen? >> i hope so. i've been doing this for a long time. we talk about it. it is politics is a game. it is open fisticuffs. let's have the game, talk it out, let's keep our eye on the enemy. we'll have differences in policy. me and you probably think differently maybe on certain issues, we can have that discussion and figure out if there is a way to get there. but now if you're talking down to folks. >> good point. chuck, good chatting with you. thank you very much. >> thank you, neil. >> we'll watch your behavior. we're going to be watching dr. ben carson too. his reaction to everything going on including chris christie, taking over should donald trump get elected president, the transition team, and all the rallies going on today in chicago. all of that after this. (man) hmm. what do you think? ♪
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>> we need -- >> the protest on the moral monday that calls for more money. protesters said the rich are getting away with financial and political murder and they should pay up. dr. ben carson, doctor, you see this. how do republicans respond? i heard from a couple rich folks who don't like being vilified. how do republicans take on this issue? what do you say? >> we need to emphasize fairness. they are saying that i put forth and the one donald trump put forth includes fairness to everyone across the spectrum. it is true with the current system we have now, a lot of wealthy people do not pay a large amount. the one who is don't look for
the loopholes and things, they pay an incredible amount of taxes. the top 1% paying 37% of the taxes. we wanted something that is simple and fair. you know, mr. trump got in trouble this weekend when he said he would consider raising taxes on the very rich. what he was actually saying is he wants to lower taxes for everybody, but he knows there are a bunch of people in congress with a socialist redistribution. if it comes to not having tax reform or sacrificing the very top people, he would be willing -- >> who are the top people, doctor? what are we talking about? >> people like the hedge fund managers who make 100 milli$100 or $200 million each year. i think we should be fair to everybody across the board. >> in other words, doctor, the
fact he planned about 25%, was he signaling it would go higher than that or higher than what it is now? people were confused? >> it would be lower than it is now under any circumstance. >> do you think stuff like that, though, doctor -- sorry, sir. the switch on minimum wage, what he's said about refinancing debt that could call our finance to question that he is not really thought this out or, at the very least, giving conservatives cause that maybe he isn't the same guy that was running in the primary race. >> first of all, they have to compare whatever they think he said against what hillary said and recognize with the minimum wage thing, he's sympathizing with people, recognizing that the minimum wage has not kept up
with the cost of living. >> in your first debate, he said he didn't want that wage to go up because it would hurt jobs. >> it will hurt jobs, he understands that and also understands minimum wage is entry level,itis not sustaining. if you raise it too high, you are going to devastate people, particularly young people trying to get into the job market. he knows that. >> do you think he has to come out and answer with this north carolina transgender bathroom issue, north carolina suing the government, the government to the point suing north carolina over the interpretation of who should go into a men's room and who should go into a woman's room? how should the republican party respond? >> what he has said, rightly so, it is a civil issue. that's the same thing that the
framers of the constitution show. what has happened here, they try to handle it at the state level. the feds stepped in and overstepped their boundaries and have been sued by the state. you know, we need to go back to recognizing data and science. you know, we know what men are and we know what women are. we have known that for thousands of years. if there are people who are confused about it, we can make accommodations for them, but it doesn't have to involve everybody. >> like the jim crowe thing --t everything is jim crowe, racism, segregation and slavery. what a bunch of crap. they want to do that to gain the sympathy. thinking people know better. >> thank you so much. good to catch up with you again. >> thank you. >> remember these are the issue that is come up in the primary.
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