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laverne cox and michael douglas. "megyn kelly presents" 8:00 p.m. local time on your local fox station. question of the day, should ted cruz consider getting back into this race? i'm megyn kelly. thanks for watching. here's sean hannity. welcome to "hannity," and this is a fox news alert. 2016 pruesumptive nominee donal trump scores huge wins in west virginia and nebraska in the gop primaries. on the democratic side, fox news is projecting bernie sanders will defeat hillary clinton in west virginia. also tonight, donald trump has reportedly now narrowed his list of potential running mates to five or six people. now trump's campaign manager, corey lewandowski, will be here and he'll explain what they're looking for in a vice presidential candidate. but first here with reaction to tonight's results, fox news senior correspondent, geraldo rivera, co-host of "the five ""eric bolling and k.g., kimberly guilfoyle. good to see you all.
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let's start with the follows. we got three swing state polls, florida, pennsylvania, ohio. it is neck and neck. we'll put them up on the screen. donald trump/hillary clinton. geraldo, how do you interpret that? >> well, i think right from the beginning, donald trump a much stronger candidate than anyone gave him credit for, and hillary clinton, a much more flawed candidate, a weaker candidate. i think it will be a very close race. i think the race will turn largely on minority turnout. i think that hispanics may hate donald trump, but if they don't show up to vote -- >> they're up there now. you got 43%-42%. statistical dead heat. the only one that had a significant lead was ohio, trump over hillary. i mean, why do you say minority turnout? >> because this will be more than -- traditionally, the republican vote is a mostly white vote and the democratic vote is a heavily minority and female vote. now those differences will be accentuated because of the nature of this race, the nature
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of the campaign. will, for example, barack obama vigorously campaign for hillary clinton? will he remind people -- >> wait, here's the question. >> -- that donald trump was the architect of birtherism? >> are you, if you're a black american, better off today than you were eight years ago? if you're hispanic-american, are you better off than you were eight years ago? because hillary clinton represents four more years of obama. if that question is asked, the answer is no. dis p disproportio disproportionally. >> out of jobs, middle class getting crushed. people aren't better off than eight years ago. >> geraldo is an exception to that. >> what can i tell you, he's printing money over there. when you look at that about the families and minority communities that have been struggling, you have to ask an honest question, am i better off or should i go with somebody that has experience creating jobs, go with the free market to try to stimulate the economy and put people back at work?
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because it's been proven -- the american people, they don't want handouts. you saw that in west virginia. they want jobs. that they can feel good about to bring food home on the table for their families so there's a real choice to be made there and a lot of the exit polling showing that. >> definitely. >> economies and jobs. >> how do you interpret, by way, it you look at those poll numbers, eric, hillary clinton doesn't have the warmth of her husband, bill. he doesn't have the oratory skills of barack obama. she's cold. most people see her as dishonest, a liar and untrustworthy. it seems that it would be wide open for any candidate, and i've got to believe that donald trump is going to be a lot better at hitting her, politically speaking, than she will be at hitting him. >> yeah, a lot of polls, sean. >> let's hear them. >> on the economy, this from quinnipiac, the same quinnipiac poll you cited with florida, ohio, pennsylvania. >> all right. hold those polls for one second. we're going to dip in real quick and watch the socialist, bernie sanders, step up to the microphone.
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there he is. you know, to each according to his need, from each according to his ability. spread the wealth. tax people at 98 %. that's pretty much the message of bernie sanders. >> annoying. this guy is so annoying. >> your mike is hot. >> he's so annoying. people who think that his supporters are going to go to donald trump are smoking dope. >> what do you mean? >> what? >> no, no. >> it's called -- >> one of the most important things that came out of this evening, sean, not who won west virginia, not no won nebraska. the most important thing that came out tonight, the exit polling shows 43% of bernie sanders supporters, 43% of bernie sanders' voters would vote for donald trump over hillary clinton. >> you're also looking at west virginia. >> that's a massive number. >> look what she just said about -- we'll dip in for 30 seconds and come right back. let's hear what he has to say. >> sounds like oregon is ready for the political revolution.
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[ cheering ] this is a great turnout, and i want to thank all of you for being here. let me begin by giving you all some pretty good news. >> if you want to watch the entire speech. i got to say something really positive, though, about bernie sanders, he's given hillary a run for her money and exposed exactly how weak a candidate she is. >> he's doing exactly what donald trump did on the republican side, exposed people don't want the insider, don't want the washington, d.c., elite, the establishment. >> that is true. >> the bushes on the gop side. the clintons on the democrat side. but the numbers, the quinnipiac poll that came out today is huge. on the economy, number one, donald trump destroys hillary clinton. florida, ohio and pennsylvania. 50s to the 40s. this crushes
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there was another one today. ppp came out today and had donald trump within five points of hillary clinton nationally. now, when you talk to the people who are the establishment type, the elites who said, you know what, donald trump can't line up against hillary clinton, look at the numbers. she was beating him by 15%, 18% 2 or 3 weeks ago. >> hypothetical matchup. >> right. he's tightened it up to five points. you know what they're saying now? it's too soon, too far out for a national matchup. i'm telling you, he's closed the gap and that number tonight, west virginia -- i know it's not commensurate with the rest of the country but virginia, there's an opportunity for donald trump to take bernie sanders' voters. >> yeah, he's right. >> mitt romney got 27% of the hispanic vote and lost -- he got trounced. if donald trump doesn't do 40% of the hispanic vote, he likely will lose big-time also. >> disagree. >> and his hope, i think, is black men. if donald trump can go to black men and say, trump is keeping out your competition for jobs
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with the immigration stuff, and also trump is rich -- >> hillary. >> if he can get the hip hop vote, if he can get the number from 10% to 15%, 18%, in a state like ohio, makes a difference. >> she said she doesn't want coal mining -- she wants to vote coal mining -- >> she's a job killer. >> that's more than a dumb mistake, and coal miners out of work. she also doesn't want fracking. she's not looking out for blue collar workers. look, two statistics you got to look at that are going to blow your mind. you got 20% of american families don't have a single person in their family in the workforce. and it came out today that one in six men ages 18 to 34 are either out of work or in prison. >> right. >> so young people aren't doing well. the people that have been supporting bernie sanders. they've already rejected hillary clinton. >> they have. and that's the thing. i mean, people talk about, you know, oh, listen, trump's got to unite the party. i mean, really, hillary clinton is doing the job for him because
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people are going to be against hillary clinton. she's not a popular candidate. what has she done for jobs or the economy? she's not a job creator. she doesn't have a business mind. she's had failed foreign policy tethered to barack obama. it's going to be about the turnout. he's going to be able to put all these number of states, swing states in play and hopefully be able to turn them red. >> you think he's going to win? >> i think he's going to win. >> you think he's going to win. >> thought so from the beginning. >> hillary clinton turns from the coal industry which employed around 150,000 people before president obama took office, now employs about 56,000 people. when she turns that, as all liberals will, to the oil industry where 9 million people are employed and those people are the next target of the liberal ire and angst and people are out of work -- >> you think he's going to win. >> donald trump has an opportunity to -- >> i think donald trump would win. this is what i said about the smoking dope of bernie sanders. i didn't mean to disrespect his supporters except a little bit. except a little bit. who -- >> geraldo, you're in that -- what are you talking about?
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who are these min millennials? >> the generation that embraces diversity, that embraces lgbt rights and use -- you know, all that stuff that bernie sanders stands for. those people are not going to migrate to the gop. >> i'm sorry -- >> not going to come out for her. >> they may stay home. >> all right, guys. i got to roll. >> that's 10 million votes that go to the -- >> that's good news. k.g., eric bolling will be back with the rest of the group of "the five." results out of nebraska, west virginia. coming up what time? >> midnight. >> don't miss it. joining us, former 2016 republican presidential candidate, former governor mike huckabee. governor, you have been gracious. you have said the party ought to unite. you see and hear from people like paul ryan and the bushes and mitt romney, bill kristol aligning with ben sasse and other people. you know, to sabotage a
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candidate. you ever seen anything like this in your life? >> no, i haven't, sean. and i think a lot of these guys need to understand when you have a party, it's not the golden corral. you don't get to go through and pick out exactly what you want. you get a nominee and you support him. look, we've done that with mccain and with romney. by the way, i was listening to the conversation and talking about hispanic voters, if mitt romney had only had 4% more of the evangelical voters, we would be talking about president romney today. if donald trump can energize not only these people who are coming in from the democratic party union, just working men and women, and he's doing that, got record numbers of republican votes, if he does something to energize that base of evangelicals in the republican party that have really sat home for the last two cycles, look, donald trump, i'm convinced, he's going to beat hillary clinton. mark my words. he's on a track to beat her. these guys telling him what he
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ought to do, think about who they are. they're the people who have missed it and been wrong every single time -- >> true. you've been outspoken. he won. we should listen to the people. what do you tell him? what would you tell him? >> i'm telling him it's a simple thing. for example, paul ryan, who i respect and i like, he's a good guy, but he needs to understand, he's only the speaker of the house because his peers in the house elected him. the country didn't. he is one of 435 representatives. he didn't win a statewide race. he won a district race in 1 of the 50 states. and donald trump is winning a national election and he's going to be the leader of the matter. people don't have to like it, but they have to accept that the voters have spoken. if we get to the place where we think the voterses are the stupid ones and we're the smart ones, we need to throw all these people out. every last one of them. >> you know, it's interesting, i would argue that the very people that are now hedging and say, i'm not so sure, are the very
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people that created the insurgency to begin with and they're not getting the message and seem to be doubling down on stupid in a lot of ways. so we'll watch closely. governor, thank you. >> thank you, sean. and coming up, donald trump narrows down his list of potential running mates to five or six people. coming up next, we'll sit down with trump's campaign manager, corey lewandowski. he has been tasked with overseeing the v.p. vetting proce process. then later tonight, donald trump/hillary clinton in a potential head to head matchup. they're running neck and neck as we pointed out in three key swing states. bill hemmer will break those numbers down as we continue on this primary night, straight ahead. jordan and chelsea were searching for the perfect place for their wedding on oh! yurt. yes! earthy... just rustic. [laughing]
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and welcome back to "hannity." donald trump is moving closer to selecting his running mate. earlier today the presumptive republican nominee told the "associated press" that he has narrowed his v.p. list to five or six people. trump's campaign manager corey lewandowski will be in charge of the vetting process. he joins us in studio. how are you, sir? >> great to be here, sean. >> not a lot of responsibility there, right? >> i had nothing else to do. no, honestly, i'm part of a team and everything we do at that campaign is a team. at the end of the day we're
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going to present mr. trump recommendations and he'll make the decision of who he thinks should be his running mate and will be a partner in the government to make sure he can accomplish his elective agenda. so i'm humbled to be part of that team, but my job is to make sure this team recommends somebody good to mr. trump. >> the obvious criteria, you look geographically, look florida, look ohio, you look, a lot of people say you balance the ticket gender wise, do you put a woman on the ticket? all those things in consideration? they must be. >> i think the most important thing is god forbid anything were to happen to mr. trump as president, you want someone who can take over the government the very next day, make sure their agenda continues to move forward. nobody would ever want that. more importantly, you need someone who understands the legislative process intimately, make sure in the first 100 days which are so critical, we get done the agenda which mr. trump is putting forward which is cutting taxes, reducing our deficit, renegotiating our trade deals. in that sense you need someone who understands and has experience in the legislative process to get that accompli
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accomplished. >> you're not giving us one itty bitty clue at all no matter how i try, are you? >> it's not about gender, not about geographic representation. who best is a partner to bring our country back from where it is? we have to make sure we don't allow another four, eight years of a democrat in the white house taking our country in the act opposite direction. >> is it really down to five or six? >> i think it's a small group of people. we've been looking at this for some time now. at the end of the day we're going to submit a list of people to mr. trump for his consideration and make sure that person he can work with. this is trully a partnership moving forward. that person will be on the ticket and help us be successful in november. that's our goal. >> let's talk about everything else that's going on with the campaign. what was your reaction to paul ryan's kmnt comments and what do you think is going to happen on thursday, what do you expect? >> i think mr. trump and paul ryan have a lot in common, looking at reducing the budget deficit, a balanced budget for the first time since speaker
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gingrich was the speaker, providing middle class tax cuts. these are important things everyone can agree on in the republican party. smaller government. getting rid of the overzell yous government agencies burdening our small businesses with their egregious regulations. i think those things are all in line with republican values and the republican party. i think those things everyone can agree on. will we get there? i'm not sure. we'll find out. >> paul ryan doesn't do a lot of interviews and came out, did an interview, knew that question was going to be asked and it seemed like he wanted to in a way sabotage is too strong a word, fire a shot across the bow maybe to donald trump. i didn't think it was particularly helpful. >> donald trump is the republican nominee. he's the presumptive nominee. he's going to be the republican nominee. he will become the head of the party for the republicans as the republican presidential candidate going into november. and it's important to understand that he will be helping to set the agenda not just during the november elections, but as you move forward and he becomes the president-elect and ultimately the president, it's going to be his agenda --
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>> you have a lot on your plate. you got to not only pick a cabinet potentially, build a government potentially. how many thousands of jobs would be available for people. but you got the convention first. you certainly have party platform that is, i guess, people are going to have their views on it. how do you feel that process goes? >> look, we've had a great team. paul manefort on board, rick wiley. we're continuing to build out. these guys are pros. >> by the way, for a while it was you and hope. it wasn't a lot of people for a while. >> it was small but we were efficient. we spent less money and had the best results. mr. trump, 11 million votes so far, more than anybody else in the history of the republican party in the nomination process. he obviously has more delegates than anybody has. he's going to be the republican nominee. you have to grow. we're going to go up against a clinton -- the potential clinton machine, thousands of people already on board. and, you know, they have built in advantages. i think the difference with donald trump as a candidate is that he's going to expand the map. you saw the polls come out today, the quinnipiac polls. he's ahead in the state of ohio,
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dead even in the state of pennsylvania, dead even in the state of florida. when you start putting states like that in play and got michigan and new york and potentially massachusetts and indiana and places where republicans haven't done historically as well as they could have, the map expands. we were in oregon, washington state this weekend, at one rally in washington state, he had 22,000 people come out. clearly not the bastion of conservatism that many other states could be but that's because his message is so important and people turn out in record numbers. we've seen that with the massive turnouts on primary days across the country because they want o support donald trump. we think we're going to see that same thing happen on election day. >> we had rick perry on the program last night. he had strong words during the campaign and when he got out for mr. trump. he said it's a no brainer, you're supporting him. row have perry, john kasich, marco rubio, ted cruz, scott walker just to name a few, bobby jindal, rick scott of florida, you have this team of governors that govern conservatively, took
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high def sits turn them into surpluses. brought hundreds of thousands of jobs to their states. do you think maybe announcing a team of rivals at some point? making announcements, my secretary of state, my secretary of defense, my health and human services secretary, ben carson. >> yeah, i don't want to get too far ahead of it but what i think you have is you have great governors out there who understand what it's like to be the ceo of their state. sometimes with republican legislatures and sometimes with democrat lectures. that's the model we need to follow. look at what rick scott has been able to do in florida, very, very good job. look what governor jindal has done in louisiana. you look at some of the states, balanced budget requirements. you have to make sure we're not passing on debt to our children and grandchildren moving forward because it's unfair to them everyone it's our responsibility to make sure that not only do we balance the budget, but we're reducing our deficit and it's a priority for the campaign. >> two areas when conservatism
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on a federal level was the most successful, during the reagan years and when newt gingrich put out a contract. the exit polls, anywhere between 60% and 70% of republicans in this primary season saying they feel betrayed by washington republicans. is it time to put pen to paper and also create an opportunity to run a national campaign where senate candidates and house candidates can run on a set of principles, elect us, we'll do these ten things to make america great, if you want to use trump's slogan. would that be a good idea? >> it's a good idea, but what you have to understand is washington has been fundamentally broken for almost 30 years now. >> want to lock them into a promise. >> the american people are making less money today than 20 years ago in real dollars. >> yeah. >> the reason donald trump has had such success is the blue collar people making less money whose jobs have been shipped overseas, they want a change. they're tired of politics as usual. people have had the opportunity to go to washington for year after year after year and nothing changes. people are fed up with it. donald trump has the ability to
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go in there and fundamentally change the system. to unctiderstand what it's like truly govern with a mandate if given that privilege, to say just because it's always been done this way, we're not going to do it anymore. what we've seen in this onald trump raised issues where in the primary his opponents have said you can't do that, you can't build a wall, can't get mexico to pay for it. three weeks later they're on the same side, we better build a wall and get mexico to build it. we can't renegotiate bad trade deals, that's never been done before. >> when donald trump said, he goes, i'm going to announce 12 people, 14 people that will be my pool of candidates for the supreme court to show conservatives how conspiraserio about his judicial philosophy. wouldn't it also give people a lot of comfort knowing in 100 days we're going to build the wall, we're going to change trade deals, get rid of executive orders, repeal obamacare, put forth a balanced budget, send school -- eliminate common core. let the states decide. move toward energy independence.
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really solid positions. and a promise. >> look, he's laid out most of those on the campaign trail and talks about them all the time. he has done more campaign events than anyone, more media opportunities than anyone i think. he's laid out some people who he would consider to be appointed to the u.s. supreme court, diane sykes, pryor from alabama. these are conservative jurists not looking to elect from the bench. these are a small sampling of many. we said we'd release more. the difference is when this race comes down to it, you have a presidential candidate who could have the potential of appointing four or potentially five supreme court justices over a four- or eight-year period to fundamentally change the way america functions. you know, to legislate from that bench and if you want to have hillary clinton who's going to appoint a justice, who is anti-2nd amendment, will change the fundamental we way live every day, that's something we don't agree with and the people donald trump has recommended are strict constitutionalists and understand that is not the job of a judge to legislate from the
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bench. that's not what they're designed to do. you know, you let congress make the laws. you work with the congress as a president to make sure those laws are accurate and to the best of our ability but don't turn it over to the federal judges to make those laws. that's a big difference. >> corey, good to see you. i'm glad to see you got a bigger team now. all right, thank you. coming up, new polls out of three key swing states show donald trump is neck and neck with hillary clinton. bill hemmer standing by at the big board, he'll explain the electoral map come november. plus more reaction from tonight's primary results out of west virginia and nebraska as we continue tonight on "hannity."
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♪ ain't got time to make no apologies...♪ welcome back to "hannity." so if donald trump faces hillary clinton in the general election, well, new polls released today out of three key swing states show it can be a very competitive race. standing by at the "hannity" big board to explain how these states could decide who's elected president in november, our own bill hemmer. bill? so. >> so, sean, here's what we did based on polling that came out earlier today. the electoral map. the electoral college, you have to get to 270 in order to win the white house. as a benchmark, this is where we start. this is the math in 2012 where obama beat romney 332-206. and, again, it's 270 in order to win the white house. based on the polling that came out earlier today, say florida is as close as they say right now, and this is just too close to call. well, if trump were able to take
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florida and 29 electoral vote s you see where the number changes. likewise for ohio, the poll earlier today showed him up several points in ohio, four points over hillary clinton. what if he wins the buckeye state in florida and ohio and you still under the scenario are not at the number of 270, so pennsylvania, the moment right now it's pretty close. 43%-42%. trump's talked a lot about pennsylvania, 20 electoral votes. that would get him to the number. that is a big challenge as of today to win all three states. for either candidate. florida, ohio and pennsylvania. four years ago at this time, mitt romney was tied with barack obama in florida. tied with him in ohio. and he was trailing in pennsylvania by eight points. he lost the election in pennsylvania by five in the end. so maybe pennsylvania is not on the republican category. you take that away and now you drop down and you go looking on the map to find other states that you could flip from four years ago. maybe it's virginia, 13
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electoral votes. but if it's not virginia, or if you get virginia, you're still four shy, so then you go looking for more. maybe it's up here in the northeast in new hampshire. that would put him right at the number of 270. but for the sake of this discussion, take away new hampshire, take away virginia. remember what trump has talked about repeatedly. pennsylvania, ohio, michigan, wisconsin. if he were to win florida and ohio, let's say he's able to take michigan, hasn't been done since the 1980s. they would be dead even at 269-269 then you go back to the map. if it's not virginia or new hampshire, what do you get? do you win wisconsin? maybe, maybe not. do you win iowa? iowa would do that for you, 275. in this mix, scenario, put a lot of things in play over the next six months to she how you get to 270 or how hillary clinton prevents him from doing that. it always comes back to ohio and florida and all these scenarios
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where we begin the chase and the race for 270 in 2016. sean? >> all right. thanks, bill. joining us with more reaction, former clinton pollster, fox news contributor, doug schoen. republican pollster, john mclaughlin. all right. look at that map. wow. that was a pretty interesting, you know -- >> more wide open. it's different than the republicans. republicans last two cycles have been running country club campaigning says we're going to run in narrow sliver states. >> yeah, they don't expand the electoral map. >> now trump gets to open up the rust belt, maybe the northeast and these three polls from quinnipiac that are dead even, what was really interesting was in two of the three states, all three states, they're unpopular with high unfavorables but trump was more popular than hillary clinton. pennsylvania, he had lower negatives. she's talking about laying off coal miners which is why she's gotten destroyed in west virginia. >> i got a question. you've been there with -- >> i have. >> you know them. what's going on in this campaign right now? >> in a word, there's panic
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tonight. the clintons don't have a strategy to deal with bernie sanders. if they lose california, the whole game will be up for grabs. and with these numbers, and i agree with john's analysis with one large caveat, that the democrat electoral lock is such that what bill said is, look, donald has to run the table, the available states to win -- >> but he's talking about running the cable in a different way than, say, george bush won the table. >> that's why hillary is so nervous. she doesn't have an argument, theory of the case. i've been in the room with her and bill clinton. the clinton campaign in 96, we had a clear strategy for dole, carried us through. i'm sitting here telling you the clinton campaign doesn't have a clear strategy or idea how to deal with donald trump and the political rulebook is being rewritten. >> we just talked to corey lewandowski. who would best serve donald trump on a ticket? >> well, i mean, right now kasich, if you say ohio, you want to seal ohio --
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>> kasich doesn't want it, let's assume that. >> if he doesn't want, i think marco rubio would be good. >> marco rubio doesn't want it either. >> or ted cruz. that's what they always say when they want to get it. >> conservatives, they don't like corker. >> this is an election, dru trump's -- >> foreign policy gravitas. yeah, newt gingrich would be who hillary would run against. >> okay. >> trust any, we did it in 896 96, it worked. >> mike pence would be really good. let me give you a wildcard. in those three states trump was beating hillary on handling the economy 5-4. when she was beating him on -- >> foreign policy. >> -- international crisis. if trump wants to go ahead in those states, particularly the northeast -- >> focus on her foreign policy. >> security. the security issue. >> corker's office. god, no. >> he couldn't stop the iran deal. that was his -- >> in the committee. >> that's because of barack obama. >> let me tell you -- >> bad choice. >> you need somebody who's going to say -- i always like pete
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king. >> that's not going to -- you need a conservative. >> who is it, sean? >> i think it could be any of the people that he mentioned. mike pence is an interesting thought. indiana. i think -- look, i still like newt gingrich. you can run against newt all you want. >> we did. we beat him. he's a friend of mine. >> he changed -- >> we did it. bill clinton did it. >> no. it was -- >> yes. >> that was actually newt that did it. he went along with -- >> i was in the room with clinton. i got him to go along. we did the deal. >> newt's deal. >> we did it and took credit and won the election. it will happen again. >> newt's record. >> it worked. it will work again. >> it was all newt that did it. >> no, it wasn't. i was there, sean. trust me. >> excuse me, it was newt's idea to balance the budget in seven years using real numbers. it was newt's idea for welfare reform. he got clinton to become a conservative to do it. >> june of 1995 we did a speech on a balanced budget. that won bill clinton the election. up next tonight on "hannity" -- >> i got to tell you, i am, if
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i'm fortunate to be the nominee, i am looking forward to debating donald trump come the fall. >> hillary's trying to coronate herself, but she just got beat by bernie sanders against again. tonight in west virginia. tucker carlson, peter johnson jr., they'll have reaction when we come back as our analysis of these primary results continue straight ahead. most people think that after an accident, you'll have to pay five hundred bucks for your deductible. the truth? at allstate, you could pay zero.
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the highest obligation of a president is to protect america. i take that as a solemn obligation and it's why i've been so concerned about the reckless talk coming from donald trump. so i got to tell you, i am, if i'm fortunate to be the nominee, i am looking forward to debating donald trump come the fall. >> be careful what you wish for. hillary clinton getting ahead of herself. she said she's looking forward to debating donald trump but
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keeps losing to her democratic 74-year-old curmudgeon senator from vermont, bernie sanders. here with reaction, fox news contributor tucker carlson, fox news legal analyst, peter johnson jr. be careful what you wish for, right, peter? >> i think so. i think it could be a tough debate especially if she sounds the way she sounds tonight and looks the way that she looks. i wish everybody well, but she looks tired. so when donald trump says she lacks the vigor and availability to go forward, when you seein a, god, you know, what's happening? and now bernie sanders is saying, well, i've gotten 45% of these pledged delegates, probably going to go on, perhaps, to win in california. >> california. yeah. >> big win tonight. i agree with what doug schoen was saying. the past is murky there. >> she is a weak candidate. tucker, i'm not sure if you were listening to john mclaughlin who pointed out in three swing states that we were showing the poll numbers for, ohio, florida, pennsylvania, that trump wins on
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the economy, she wins on foreign policy but a few strategically placed ads in those swing states about benghazi, about the e-mail server, and you hammer that home, you can drive those numbers down pretty quick, right? >> yeah. amazingly, trump who's been hit, you know, in some fairness, for flip-flopping, wins on honesty and trustworthiness in the swing states includes pennsylvania according to the quinnipiac poll. the democratic party is less united than the republican party. trump has more support among republicans, i mean, look at the results in the past three weeks, than hillary has among democrats. bernie won his 19th contest tonight. they keep saying he can't win. that's probably true, but why is he getting 30,000 people coming to his rallies as he did yesterday? because he's leading a movement. so what does that mean exactly? it means hillary's going to have to give him something profound. not just tinkering with the democratic platform in philadelphia, but what is he going to have to give her in order to get his blessing at that convention? i mean, i think it could totally
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destroy her campaign. >> what do you think? >> you know, everyone is focusing on donald trump and speaker ryan and whether there's unity in the republican party. there is disunity and there's disunity going forward up until and including the time of the convention for the democrats and they will be punching the heck out of each other from now till then. and that's a serious, serious problem. you saw so many of the exit polling tonight about the tremendous amount of voters that say they'd walk away from hillary clinton as the nominee and vote for donald trump. we're going to be seeing defections in both parties. the unpledged, the independent voter, the people who haven't decided yet. this race is coming together -- >> who do you like what we're seeing for trump? >> we talked about that before. marco rubio said he's not interested. >> could change his mind. >> he could change his mind. kasich, i think, would be a strong candidate. there's others. i think there's a bunch of people. >> yeah. >> who would be very qualified. the senate side as well that could help donald trump.
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>> and a lot of governors, too. rick perry came out very strongly on this program last night. >> the texas governor. >> what do you think, tucker, who do you like? >> i don't know. as i said to you before, we talked about it, i think he probably would be better off picking a woman, not because it would win a lot of female voters but he has a natural rapport with women voters, he's better on stage with women. one thing about the problems hillary's having, nobody ever says this. you often hear people say trump has this terrible problem with women. he has a problem with hispanic voters. yes, that's true. hillary clinton has a bigger problem with male voters than trump has with female voters. she has a bigger problem with white voters than you've seen any democrat have in a long time. barack obama won 39% of white voters in 2012. i'd be surprised if she got that number. so i know it's unfashionable to say so, but hillary has a massive sex and ethnicity problem, too. >> she has an honest and trustworthy problem, she as a likability problem. she's not liked by a lot of people and she's a horrible --
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if i'm charitable -- mediocre candidate at best in my opinion. i think it's going to be an uphill battle for her i hope. peter, tucker, thank you. coming up tonight next right here on "hannity" -- >> he's a very good man, he wants what's good for the party and i think we're going to have very positive results and i'd love, frankly, for him to stay and be chairman. >> donald trump gets ready for a sit-down with speaker paul ryan on thursday. so can the gop finally be unified? is it necessary to win in november? we'll check in with charles hurt, dr. gina loudon and much more straight ahead. uh oh. oh. henry! oh my. good, you're good. back, back, back. (vo) according to kelley blue book, subaru has the highest resale value of any brand. again. you might find that comforting.
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>> i would like to see more unity in the party. i look forward to the meeting and think positive results. he's a very good man. he wants what is good for the party. i think we're going to have positive results and i'd love for him to stay and be chairman. >> that is donald trump tonight with some encouraging words ahead of his much anticipated meeting with paul ryan though ryan does not back trump's candidacy. here is what i didn't like about
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this. so you have paul ryan, doesn't do a lot of interviews, decided i'm going to do a cnn interview. he did it on purpose. that bothers me. he's not thinking about anyone in that moment. not thinking about the party, unity. he's supposed to unify the party. >> is this a surprise to us? he had an opportunity to do a lot of things he hasn't done. i would argue this trumpness that he is hating so badly now, he brought on a lot of it by not acting in ways he could have when he had a chance. >> not only him, look. republicans have been weak. >> right. but he's the leader. >> now he's a he'der. but republicans have been weak, visionless. i think that created the insurgency here. yet, this is how he reacts when people speak out the way they did? >> look at the leadership.
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couldn't find a candidate, a successful candidate they can get behind. when the last man standing is donald trump, for him to not get, immediately get behind unifying the party is i think, a a dereliction of duty. what makes him think not backing him now is going to do any good, either? >> i think that one of the things the establishment would like to do at the end of the process, they want to sab tablg, i mean, look at the people. you have mitt romney talking third party. so they want to sabotage the g.o.p. candidate and then, why? so they can come back in november and wag their fingers
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in voters faces and say see? is that going to make them happy? >> because they're cushy jobs and cushy retirements and the rest of the benefits go nowhere. if donald trump is reelected it's a big problem. this is so telling because what they should be focused on now is the fact it's not the g.o.p. fractured now, from the moment donald trump declared he has been a front runner, the fracture is on the left. >> why are they not giddy that you have record numbers of people showing up in these primaries and new people are being brought into the republican party, if trump is right, it would be a huge story at any other point. they say they want to expand the party. what? i thought they wanted a bigger and closer party. >> this exposes them in ways they never wanted to be exposed
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and this is a game. it reaches as far as the private sector talking about that crony capitalism, it's a part of that. that is threatened because donald trump understands how politics works and he wants to dismantle it. >> who do you like? >> i like newt gingrich. he coalesces that christian conservative people. i think he can bring it. he's a genius. >> he's the smartest guy in the republican party. charles? who do you like? >> i think newt would be a good choice but i see donald trump doing something that no political consultant could advise, that is pick somebody just like him from the business world, carly fiorina put herself out of the running for that. it could be something nobody expects. >> newt is the last guy that gave us a balanced budget in this country and had any
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significant impact on making the country a better place. i don't know if he can do better than that. there are great governors, as i've pointed out. but i don't know. final words? >> the guy's got a giant brain and thought about these issues donald trump had a hard time with. newt gingrich thought about these issues at the deepest levels. >> coming up, more "hannity", right after the break. [ male announcer ] love drama? don't be a yes man.
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welcome back to "hannity". quick programming note before we go, tune in tomorrow night, newt gingrich will join us along with laura ingraham at 10:00 p.m. eastern, for now, our continuing coverage of the results out of west virginia, and nebraska, stay tuned, bret baier is coming up live with a special edition of "special report".
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then, admit night, my friends at "the five" will be here. we'll see you back here tomorrow night. see you then. >> bernie sanders insists, don't count him out. and hillary clinton in west virginia, and vowing to fight onto the convention. >> we're in this campaign to win. the democratic nomination. >> clinton doesn't seem worried, planning for the battle against donald trump. >> that is what the hate rhetoric and insults. >> trump stays off the campaign trail, narrowing his list for vp. >> very in mind five people. i think they're excellent. i'll announce whoever it will be at the convention. >> two of trump's former rivals making