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give in to the career politicians. >> john goes to twitter. these gentlemen are both successful americans and they deserve cooperation and progress. let's see who's right. we'll be back with the latest tomorrow. dr. ben carson, newt gingrich and other great people. >> have a great day. bill: thank you, guys. donald trump goes to washington. the highly anticipated meeting is now under way. the republican leaders meeting at the rnc. the flies are on the wall, we wish we were two of them, but we are not. we are here. martha: good morning, i'm martha maccallum. we have both sides reportedly looking to clear the air. these meetings are going to get started at the rnc in the shadow of cap shill which includes the heavy hitters in the republican party. reince priebus is a good friend of fall ryan's the entire republican house leadership will
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be there. then they move on to the senate side of capitol hill where donald trump will sit down with these gentlemen. trump, ryan, mcconnell have a lot to hash out. but all sounds like they are willing to give this whole thing a bit of a fresh start. >> paul is a good person. i don't know paul. he knew everybody else. they are governors and senators. i'm a businessman. i think we want to get to know each other. >> we need to get to know each and we as a leadership team are enjoying to we get a chance to meet with him. martha: john roberts live in the melee outside the republican national committee headquarters. trump appears to soften his stance on one of his most controversial promises, which is
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the ban on muslims entering the country. what's going on? >> speaker ryan was try something downplay this morning's meeting. but if you have a camera you can take a high -- take a high high shot. it's interesting when you look at the posturing of the trump campaign going into this meeting. they expect it will be a good meeting today. they don't know if it will end in agreement, but they are expecting it to be a good meeting. here are things donald trump telegraphed in his meeting with gretta van suls between.
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he said paul ryan is the leader of the republican party and will be for a time to come. then when he said that he was walking back at least a little bit his stance on the ban on muslims coming into this country saying "a", it was only temporary, and there would be exceptions on it. >> i would like to back off as soon as possible. i would like to see something happen. but we have to be vigilant. there is a radical islamic terrorism problem our president doesn't want to talk about. by putting together a commission, a group of people highly respected like rudy and others, i think that could lead to something pretty good. reporter: that proposed ban on muslims is one of the big
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divisions between trump and ryan. he's softening his position to give speaker ryan that he and speaker ryan may be more on the same page than speaker ryan initially thought they were. martha: in terms of when they get inside, what's the substance expected to be of these discussions, john? >> they probably aren't going to get into the substance of the issues. sources scrubbed it as a statement of principles. he will outline where they are on particular issues. there are certainly points of commonality in terms of the desire for job creation, tax cuts. it's a short meeting. it's only supposed to be a half-hour to 40 minutes long. this was described to me by
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people on speaker ryan's side as the beginning of a process. we don't know if anybody is going to come out and raise hands together and say we raised. >> number of different points. >> in terms of who is in there and his friend on capitol hill, will any of those be along with him today for trump? >> there is going to be people from the trump campaign here, he's meeting with the leadership and reince priebus. in terms of where this goes from here, i think you will see as time progresses that more and more members of congress on the republican side will get on board. the big reason for that is if you don't get on board with donald trump, the president, who are you going to get on board with. the signal is going through the republican party loud and clear, if you don't support his candidacy you could hand the white house to hillary clinton
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in november. >> a lot of republican soul searching. it will be fascinating to watch. bill: does trump need ryan's support? here is eric trump last night with megyn. he's got tens of millions of votes. he has run away with it. he has more votes than any republican in any primary. he has grown the party. he has brought the party together for whatever that's worth. if he doesn't have the speakers vote or his will, we'll go on and those people will continue to march behind my father. is it the ultimate goal to meet hillary clinton? yes. if he doesn't have it, absolutely. bill: byron, good day to you. you have got the statement from eric trump. you heard donald trump talk about it.
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fortune magazine. trump need ryan's endorsement. your expectation based on that is what? >> i don't think there is any doubt donald trump thinks he has the upper hand going into this meeting in the form of 11 million votes. so what i think we are seeing from the trump team. last night on fox, was a good cop, bad cop things where donald trump was somewhat differential. trump -- deferential. and eric trump saying donald trump doesn't need paul ryan's approval. i think actually you have seen trump over several months now saying it would be great for the republican party to unite behind me. but lately he has been saying, it would be great to have unity,
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but i don't really need it. bill: when we get around the noon eastern time hour, we'll probably hear from trump and paul ryan and mitch mcconnell. the meeting will have concluded around that time. so as voters and viewers look in on the outside trying to analyze this figuring out where is the meeting of the mind, how far down the field will both side push that football? is this considered just to con the metaphor, is this a first down or touchdown? >> it's not going to go very far. look for them to talk about principles. to say, we discussed, you know, some of the principles near and dear to republicans like pro-life, or like the proper
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relationship between congress and the executive. do not look for them to discuss anything in detail about immigration or entitlements or about any the other issues that donald trump has basically completely left republican docky on. nothing in detail, not a lot issue-oriented stuff. broader talk about policies. it was good to get to know each other, and we all want the best for america. >> do you think trump can go forward with this mom nation without paul ryan's support? without solid conservative support behind him? yes or no? >> yes, he can. but the bigger question for paul ryan, can the republican speaker of the house not support the republican nominee for president? i think paul ryan will be the one who is increasingly under pressure. we still have more primaries to
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go. we have california, washington, oregon. trump will keep piling up votes. he has already gotten more vote in the primary and romney did in 2012. the pressure will be on paul ryan to come around and support the nominee of this party. bill: paul ryan said they met face to face one time, and that was one time ago, it wasn't a long kfg, but it was a conversation. when they say we are still getting to know each other, they are not lying about that. martha: don't be surprised if we hear the thing that bring us together are greater than the thing we have not in common. improving the economy is the thrust of what paul ryan want to do. i would look for them to have
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common territory and leave the rest to the common issues. hillary clinton calls the investigation her emails a routine security inquiry. what does the f.b.i. director think about that phrase? not too temperature, apparently. >> i predict there are more bombshells in his tax returns. i predict he doesn't give much of anything to the disabled and our veterans. i predict he told the "new york times" that his immigration talk is just that. talk. bill: that was two months ago, now we have mitt romney with harsh word over donald trump's taxes. >> i hope to release them. i would like to release them. but when i'm under order i can't do that.
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martha: donald trump said he heard the paparazzi was going wild over this meeting today. if donald trump was not involved in this meeting today and it was a normal candidate thing you wouldn't see near the excitement generated. can donald trump and paul ryan who represents the more conservative wing of the party get together and focus on an agenda going forward? they are meeting with reince priebus and paul ryan and donald
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trump. we'll be tracking all the movements as they develop. bill: i want to bring in sarah huckabee sanders for the trump team. what's your expectation at the end of this day? what should people expect? >> i think that this i a meeting exactly what both side have said. a type to sit down, get to know one another better, continue the line of communication and uniting the party and uniting the country behind donald trump. bill: these are baby steps what you are describing. is that the best we can do? >> i don't think this is meant to be some in-depth policy discussion. one of the things that people are missing and one of the things that we should be talking about is how weldon is uniting
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the republican party compared to what hillary is doing uniting the democrat party. donald trump is the clear nominee at this point and hillary clinton is still losing state this week. donald trump is doing an infinitely better job uniting the party. he started the race with 17 other candidate, and hillary started with 4 and she is still fighting it out. >> you know the republican party very well, and you know conservatives very well. can he win without them? >> i don't think he has to. i think conservatives will support donald trump. when you line up at the end of the day, i think hillary clinton will lock up the democratic nomination. when you put them side by side there is a clear contrast. there will be no choice for conservatives other than donald trump who mentioned to nominate conservative constitutional
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judges to the court and support pro-life legislation. they will certainly make that on election day. bill: governor romney posted this onfacebook. it's disqualifying for a presidential nominee not to release his tax returns. he has not been subject to public scrutiny in either military or public service. gretta asked him about it last night and he answered it this way. >> hopefully before the elect i would like to release. you learn very little from a tax return. i released my financials and they show very little debt. bill: he says the american people don't care.
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is that short-sighted? >> i think the american people care about their own taxes more than they do about donald trump. he's the only candidate left in this race who will fight to lower taxes of working class, middle class americans. at the end of the day most people don't understand their own taxes. they are probably not going to understand donald trump's. there has got to be a complicated lengthy return. again, i think americans are more concerned about their own taxes, less concerned about donald trump. it's interesting mitt romney is coming out attacking donald trump on this issue when he himself only released his tax returns a month before the election in 2012. and donald trump has said he will as well. >> another thing on the muslim ban. he intimated yesterday he would like to appoint a special commission. and last night the same
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interview with gretta. he said i would back off of it because i would like to see something happen. but we have to be vigilant. does he continue to be a moving target for voters? >> i don't think so. >> not at all. his number one priority has always been to put americans first, and protect american interests and protect americans on a national security level. i think the whole point and the goal is to know who these people are and have a vetting process. as soon as we can do that. he's open to do that and want to do that. that's his point. we need to protect americans. if we get to the point where we have a vetting process that we know works that doesn't allow the incident in california that took place because we didn't know who people were and where they were coming from and the reason they were here.
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bill: we are all trying to learn as we go. sarah huckabee-sanders, thank you for your time. martha: we have new details on the deadly terror attacks in benghazi. what retired service members are saying should have happened for more than three years after the attack. >> they got killed by a mortar at the end of the battle when the sun was coming up when they shouldn't have gone the killed because we had hours and hours to deal with this.
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bill: f.b.i. director james comey says he's feeling pressure over the investigation to hillary clinton's email server, but he says it's no different than any other case. he said we want to do it well, and we want to do it properly. as between the two things we'll always choose well. comey addressed hillary clinton's description of the case calling it a security inquiry. >> he says it's an investigation. he says he's not familiar with the term "security inquiry." martha: a fox news exclusive on the benghazi terror attacks that left four americans dead.
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a squadron was ready to launch from italy but were never launched. you spoke to these men about where they were positioned and what they could have done. what did they tell you? reporter: 100 witnesses have been interviewed but they have not been interviewed. it shows there are still men out there who have never spoken to investigators. the first man was stationed in italy. he said they were ready and willing and able to go to benghazi, but never got the go-ahead. >> there are so many ways you can get thrown under the bus if you give any sort of information. reporter: this man asked his identity be protected for fear of retribution. he says others in his squadron wanted to talk about benghazi
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from the beginning. he says within minute his air squadron was told a real world mission was going down. they raced to the airfield and the planed were armed and ready to launch. >> we were all ready to go. all of us. >> but according to the review board investigation, the response to benghazi was timely and appropriate. his squadron was based in northeastern italy. and according to men who were there could have easily flown to sicily and then on to benghazi. >> i believe our aircraft could have gotten there in a timely manner. maybe 3 hours at the most to basically sat least stop that second mortar attack and have those guys running for the hills. basically save lives that day.
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reporter: that second mortar attack called two cia agents. he told me. a reaction force says politics has gotten in the way of bringing people to justice. martha: thank you very much, adam. bill: another trading day set to beginn on wall street after triple digit losses on wall street. we'll keep an eye on your money when we begin. martha: a critical meeting on capitol hill between paul ryan and donald trump. what does each man want from the other? our panel debates as they search for common ground.
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bill: donald trump in washington for unfinished business as gets ready to lead the party in the general election most likely against hillary clinton. there is the shot as he arrived outside of rnc headquarters. the upstart presumptive nominee. it's on to the senate side later on the hill later this morning. first it was the house's turn. talking with speaker ryan and his entire leadership team as well as reince priebus, the head of the rnc. prebus embraced trump last week to be the presumptive nominee.
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martha: steve hayes and monica crowley. an interesting piece in the "wall street journal." an editor who has not been a big donald trump fan says it's time to look at what they have in common. he says donald trump has a better way of putting it. make america great again. paul ryan's version that runs back to ronald reagan and jack kemp is restore economic growth. donald trump and paul ryan should use thursday's meeting as a start of a conversation on restoring economic growth. it's the reality that has made the -- has made donald trump the
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party's presumptive nominee. >> i think it will be broader than that. i think they will talk about principles they might share in common and broader values they might share in common. but let's be clear. this a pretty significant chasm on those issues. not just specific policy issue ofs but sort of a broad outlook. their conceptions of what it means to be a republican and what it means to be a conservative. this is the beginning of that dialogue. martha: he's saying it's all about economic growth and putting people back to work. and on that, you know, to me the biggest issue of divide here is the question of cutting back benefits, cutting back entitlements to make those programs solvent again. perhaps that needs to be put aside and the focus needs to be on economic growth. >> i do expect that they will
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focus on what they have in common rather than what they don't agree on. but you can't overstate how significant that difference is. paul vine came back to congress after the 2006 election dedicated to reforming entitlements. donald trump said he's opposed to reform. the policy advisor opened the door a little crack to a discussion on that. >> donald trump said cuts in medicare would be political suicide and said it waltz agenda for the republican party. i want to take everybody back down the road here, the back and forth between the two men meeting behind closed doors. >> donald j. trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states. >> normally i do not comment on what's going none the presidential election. i will take an exception today.
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this is not conservatism. >> everything that you don't want is in that budget. i say where was paul ryan? >> if he becomes the nominee of the party, will you support him? >> yes, i will, i will support whoever the party is. >> remember the wheelchair pushed over the cliff? that waltz end of that campaign when they chose ryan. >> if the president wants to be the leader of the republican party there can be no evasion and no games. i laughed out loud. sometimes reality is stranger than fiction. i'm a good-natured guy so i get along with everybody. >> how did you like paul ryan? did you like him? >> now you have a presumptive nominee, donald trump, will you support him? martha: some pretty harsh words in the past.
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how do the two men put it together? >> donald trump has been running in the hotly contested republican primary race. now that he's the party's nominee or soon will be, he's taking on a different role. i think today is the start of a constructive negotiation. both of these men, paul ryan and donald trump are deal makers. they understand the need to bring the party together to win the general election the fall. there are sharp, stylistic and substantive differences on a number of issues as steve point out. donald trump needs paul ryan. he will need paul ryan to shepherd through tax reform and entitlement reform if president trump pushes through those , paul.
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ryan will need him, too. economic growth that you started his segment with is absolutely right. donald trump is smart enough to know jobs and the economy are the number one issue for voters across the board. they are living this obama economy on the ground every day and have been for the last seven-plus years. donald trump understands and the rest of the gop establishment should get on board with this as well. if they are going to win in the fall they need the economic issue they hit every year. martha: the underlying theme is yes they would like paul ryan to be on board. but if he doesn't, they feel they are winners and they have been winning all along and paul ryan represents a guy who was not able to close the deal when he ran for vice president and
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they have the stronger position. >> i don't think donald trump has bench more conciliatory. you have comments from eric trump and sarah palin suggesting she is going to work hard to get paul ryan out of office. you had suggestions from donald trump himself that paul ryan might have to be removed if he doesn't get on board. so i don't think there has been a lot of conciliatory language. i expect we'll get some today. that's probably what we are most likely to see coming out of the meeting today, putting that in the past and nicer language about beginning a constructive dialogue and the kind of things monica was suggesting. martha: in the past 24 hours we have heard that from donald trump. so it's going to be interesting to see the tone when they both come out. steve hayes, monica crowley,
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martha: federal investigators are learning arson led to the explosion of a texas fertilizer plant 10 years ago. remember this? that blast rocked the town of west texas about an hour south of dallas destroying hundreds of homes, killing 15 people. the explosion left a 100-foot
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crater in the earth, not you atf says someone possibly started the fire intentionally. bill: in washington, d.c., we have multiple cameras watching the arrival of donald trump an hour ago on the do the meeting with paul ryan. howie curt, when you see things like this, you salivate. question for you. it's my feeling that lobbyists, lawmakers, they are all wondering how their lives would change under a donald trump presidency. has the media considered that possibility? >> it's no secret donald trump has been a gold mine for rating and dominated the political news for a year now and reporters are thinking, wow, what if he made it to the white house and we had
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four years of this with donald trump in the oval office. it would be endless stories and drama. at the same time there is a lot of respect for paul ryan in the washington press corps. they see him as a serious politician. most of the pundits mocked donald trump who comes to this town for this meeting. it's seen as a clash of cultured. -- cultures. bill: our bicoastal. your old paper, "the washington post" and bob woodward, the famous reporters said a team of 20 staffers will be assigned to reporting on donald trump. the newspaper owned by jeff
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bezos says the paper will write a book about trump. is this normal? >> the post does have a long history of doing endless investigative profiles of presidential candidate. they found out that gary hart changed his name and lied about his and i. but in fairness, the post says it will scrutinize hillary clinton as well. that's part of the tradition. bill: woodward says with regard to the personal server, there i no intent on her part to distribute classified information. that is his opinion. but i don't know if we know that answer just yet, do we? >> i agree we don't know that answer. there are a lot of facts we don't know about the f.b.i. investigation. at the same time bob ward ward
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has compared the dumb thing she did with the private servers to watergate. >> perhaps that opinion is premature. >> even for woodward who is the author of so many books and who i respect have much, it's one thing to talk on tv. when you do the 0,000 word or 50,000 word series on donald trump or hillary clinton, then you are trafficking in facts. a lot of people say they want this for the media. now, are people going to read those 50,000 word? maybe not. but if there are significant finding that will resonate through the media echo chamber. bill: i think we can agree donald trump doesn't have a public life in government. so there is a lot to find out about him. how he would behave and lead. so there is plenty of space, i would argue, that should be applied.
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to donald trump as a person and a politician. 2008, was the post, your old employer in 2008, were they as instructive on obama as senator? >> look, barack obama in 2008 got the softest media treatment of my professional lifetime. the digging into donald trump's business record and his past. they posted a front-panel story on raunchy thing he said about women to howard stern and others over the years. he said i said a bunch of things. i was an entertainer and businessman, i didn't think i would be running for office. now he's in a different role. bill: woodward, the new york real estate world is more complex than the cia. who would know.
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we'll be watching. thank you for your analysis. and the coverage will continue. thank you, howie. martha: donald trump and paul ryan different men, different styles. they are meeting now. the senators are up next. what do they want from donald trump? we'll talk to him next. then there is this. >> 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. bill: that might be your ticket from l.a. to san francisco in 30 minutes. is that possible? scientists building this think so. ♪
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martha: that is the first successful use of a hyper loop machine. its creators wanted to change high-speed transportation to the speed of sound. they are calling this a kitty hawk moment for hyper loop technology. what do they test? >> they were able to create -- they didn't use the tube this time, to transfer a sled across this platform using this telling. it was only a 2 second test. it went 115 miles per hour and it works.
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in the next version there will be a tube surrounding that sled, and how fast will it go? >> the goal is to get over 700 miles per hour. you could take a hyper loop train from san francisco to lax and get there in 30 minutes. martha: what's the experience like for people riding it. >> that's the thing. they have to control the experience on the inside so you don't feel it. they can optimize the pressure on the inside of the tube so you don't feel the force. but the bill challenge is for people who might feel claustrophobic. there aren't windows. so they are talking about creating screens. martha: when will this be part of our lives? >> they are going to do cargo tests by 2019.
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but they will do human tests by 2021. martha: 30 minutes from los angeles to san francisco. a couple hours from new york to l.a.? >> assuming you could get the infrastructure set up that would be great. it was elon musk's idea that started the whole thing. martha: i love the idea. bill: got a ticket to ride. senate leaders will meet with donald trump after the meeting with house members concludes. they have a message for donald trump apparently some of them want him to tone it down and stop with the insults. will that message be received? former senator scott brown, a trump supporter, senator john thune and what he wants to hear from the presumptive republican nominee. they are meeting indoors. this is the headline of the day.
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first the meeting with the rnc with reince priebus and paul ryan. then they will meet with the leadership on the house republican side. following those two initial meetings trump will sit downcann the senate side of capitol hill. then we'll hear what they decide. is it unity or not? both men said they want to get to know each other. today they will.
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>> mr. trump meeting with rnc law exers. behind closes doors. we'll find out. could be pivotal moment when you look at whole campaign and beginning of attempted detente between donald trump and some of those who don't want him to be the nominee. welcome, on a business my morning on "america's newsroom." i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer.
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this may be the day. trump sitting down with house speaker paul ryan as we speak. so far ryan has not endorsed trump's bid for the presidency. what does trump expect from the meeting? here he is last night talking to greta about that. >> i think we want to get to know each other. we want to see if we have the same ideas. i represent a large group of people with strong ideas and foundation and i think we want to see a little bit about that. hopefully it will work out. martha: about 11:45 eastern time this morning donald trump will meet with republican leaders in the senate side. he is with the house side. earlier today former massachusetts scott brown who has been a trump supporter early on and he is joining us now. scott brown, good to have you here this welcome. >> good morning, thank you. martha: there are obviously a number of issues are the big divide. one of them is the question of discussion of muslims and comments that donald trump made. it needs to be remembered they
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were made shortly after the killings in san bernanadino. he called for a temporary ban of muslims entering the country until we quote, figure out what is going on. here is what he said yesterday, senator brown, to brian kilmeade on the radio show. kilmeade and friends. >> we have a serious problem. its ace temporary ban. it hasn't been called for yet. nobody has done it. this is just a suggestion until we find out what is going on but we have radical islamic terrorism all over the world. you can start at the world trade center frankly. you can go to paris. go to san bernanadino. all over the world. martha: that idea got so much traction. we look at exit polls, overwhelming majorities of republicans are actually in favor of what many on capitol hill see as very controversial issue. did he go anywhere to bridge the gap with that statement, senator? >> well there are a whole host of statements and people do care about their security and safety not only at local shopping malls but as they travel throughout
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the country and the world. don't forget we have 4.3 million people in line doing it right way. this president continues to use the pen and phone to put a whole class of people ahead of those people. i don't think it is a bad idea at all. i think we should stop all immigration until we process 4.3 million. force harry reid and chuck schumer and mitch mcconnell, all the leaders to get in the room with the president and come up with a plan congress and american people can actually support. it takes total sense to do that pause we can't just willy-nilly bring people in here without security checks. >> you help toed arrange this meeting with mr. trump for the senators on the i will had. what are their biggest concerns, and is he willing to meet them halfway? >> the meeting with the rnc is to set up fund-raising efforts to make sure everything is in in place. the reason he is meeting with paul ryan because paul ryan is on the fence.
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is the support necessarily? symbolically it is. biggest challenge from my former colleagues, what do you think? i like what he saying but i don't know him. i said we have to change that. i'm very excited they're going. people like corker and thune and others will keep open mind and listen and learn and ask questions. i hope they do. they're smart, good people. with regard to mitch mcconnell he has a choice. he a pragmatist. does he want to be majority leader or give it to chuck schumer? he needs to find common ground and retain house and senate but put republican in the white house. >> mentioned some of those names. some of them pop up on the short list for potential vps. nobody knows who really is on the list. bob corker is one name been thrown out as well. >> really? martha: how important is it from donald trump's perspective? as he talks to the people and tries to find somebody he thinks he can maybe partner with to pull off the things he wants to
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do on the hill? >> i said quite a while i think john thune would make a great vice president and bob corker would do a terrific job. two of my closest friends. hard-working pragmatists. they will work, work to get the job solved. obviously it is important to establish relationships to break down any barriers or misunderstanding a lot of what they're hearing are sound bites versus actually meeting the person one-on-one. i know how he can be and i know how open, inquisitive curious senators corker and thune and others are going to be. i think it will be a good meeting. >> i think they will see some way as different person than they see at the rallies. >> yeah. martha: it will be quite interesting to get their reaction. thank you very much, senator. good to see you. bill: clearly one of the biggest hurdles facing donald trump and speaker ryan bridging the gap for the party's future. stephen dynan, "washington
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times." good morning to you. listen from paul ryan from yesterday. >> this is big tent policy. there is plenty of room for different policy disputes. we come from different wings in the party. the goal is to unify the various wings of the party around common principles so we go forward and unify. bill: there is a baseline, steve. take it a point at a time, right? you say it is tough to think of two more different people. just expand on that now. >> so look, we'll get to this policy in a minute but take approach sort persona. the way i look at it, from the '90s teen movies. the big brash high school quarterback and the straight-a student. can they get together? can they date? they tease each other. you have to move towards my side. you have to move towards my side. can they in the end get together? paul ryan is all about policy details. he doesn't do big goals and broad pronouncements.
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donald trump does big broad goals and pronouncements and doesn't really do policy details. there is room for them to get together there. but question can their personalities do that. bill: i get you. they disagree on most fundamental parts trumpism. define that. first trumpism and get to ryan's per speck stiff. >> sure. donald trump won this nomination, or will win the nomination based on stiff stance on immigration. based on opposing calling for scrapping existing free trade deals and driving better bargains. part of this, may be less important but still a stance he staked out, not changing social security and not changing medicare. now he said he may be open to changes, to altering some of that but that is at least his stance right now. take paul ryan. he is one of the biggest champions of comprehensive immigration reform on the republican side in congress. he made his name in the last year in congress by pushing through the trade proposition authority that allows free trade
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deals. and his budgets that he did before he was chairman of the ways and means committee, when he was budget committee chairman talked about reforming social security and medicare entitlements. the big things paul ryan has done and stands for the specifics are exactly opposite what donald trump just ran on. bill: that is why mitt romney chose him four years ago. you asked the question in your first answer. now let's answer it. can they find a way to get along and what does that look like? >> so, yes, there is a way. i don't know that they will do it but the way is this. donald trump has very broad goals. he is has left a lot of space underneath of those goals to sort of get there. if he is willing to let house republicans, paul ryan in particular but other members of congress fill out the details and write those policies for him, yes we're going to get the budget under control, here is how you do it. yes, we can stiffen up immigration enforcement, here is how we do it. yes, we can rewrite trade
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agreements, here is how you do it. if he is willing to let them put specific policies underneath of his goals we'll have a marriage there. we'll see this play out particularly at platform fight, at republican national convention. paul ryan has his house republicans working on their own agenda. the key question whether all those will be melded. we'll know here in two months. bill: i think i have time for one more. paul ryan two days ago said if donald trump does not want him to chair the convention in cleveland in july, he gladly, i don't think he used the word gladly, he would surrender that responsibility. do you expect that? >> i don't. i wouldn't say it's impossible but i don't expect it. look, these two guys actually want to work together. donald trump is on the verge of winning an amazing, astounding victory to defeat 16 other candidates. that is powerful force in republican politics. paul ryan recognizes that. he needs to find a way to work with them.
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bill: well-done, stephen. capitol hill. stephen dinan from "the washington times." we'll talk again. martha: meanwhile, new drama on the democratic side. senator sanders campaign fund-raising email, those are always important saying nominating hillary clinton would be disaster. chief political correspondent mike emanuel joins us from washington. sanders is not doing good job hiding his irritation of the process in his party, is he? >> you're right, martha. the mission is to win as many pledged delegates between now and june 14th. then quote, we'll have a contested convention where the democratic party must decide if they want the candidate with momentum who is best positioned to beat trump, or if they were willing to roll the dice and court disaster simply to protect the status quo for the political and financial establishment of this country. he was on the road in montana
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yesterday, venting about the system. once again he is today out in south dakota, campaigning for as many delegates as she can get. hillary clinton campaigning in true blue new jersey. doesn't want to take chances ahead of the primary. she is in new york doing fund-raising and a discussion with hiv/aids activists. martha: thank you very much, mike emanuel. keeping eye on sanders campaign with so many focus on the trump -- bill: it was 24 hours ago you and i were sitting here, right? paul ryan came out and i said i don't really know him. met him once in 2012. we just need to get to know each other. both sides said that by the way. to pretend we're unified as party after coming through a bruising primary without actually unifying we would go into the fall at half strength. neither man wants that against hillary clinton come september or october. the. martha: there is an argument to be made for the party that, you
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know, a hard-fought unity between these camps would provide a much stronger base to go into cleveland with. nobody would really buy it if suddenly, when donald trump wins the nomination, as he has, presumably, and you know for all intents and purposes suddenly everybody gathered around him and said all the things they said before didn't matter anymore. this is a process that needs to happen as it will need to happen on the democratic side too when hillary clinton and bernie sanders get that sorted out. bill: trump says he can win without them. if they will not be on his team, that's okay. martha: yep. bill: i would suggest better team, republican or democrat all
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martha: there is a live shot as everybody sort of standing around outside of watching what around outside of watching what . we have a tweet from reince priebus. the meet something going well. we have unity. positive outcome. no big surprise that would be word from reince priebus who is in the meeting. they have a second meeting with a larger group of house leadership, folks. that is the meeting underway now. then after that they will go over to the other side of capitol hill. not inside of the capital building itself. but to offices on that side of the hill where they will sit down with the national republican senate committee, to speak with some of the senators and among those senators will be south dakota senator john thune, chairman of the senate republican conference. he will meet with mr. trump today as well. senator thune, good morning to you. lots of excitement there, huh?
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>> good morning martha. yes indeed it is, yes. martha: what is your take on all this? >> this is opportunity for many of us to get aidanted with donald trump for very first time. i think most members of the senate, for that matter house of representatives don't know him. and so this is sort of introduction to him. it is opportunity for us to hear from him about his visions for future of this country. what he intends to do to unite the party and the nation. as we head into the fall election. and, so we're looking forward to good, productive meeting. it really is for us a opportunity really to get aidanted with someone we expect to be our party's nominee. martha: he just met with paul ryan. how important do you think it is for paul ryan to endorse him? >> paul ryan will make his own decisions and own conclusions on that. this is process needs to happen organically you and you can't force that. this represents a first
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opportunity to do that. i'm sure there will be more meetings in the future but in the end i believe when the fall election comes around, that we'll have a team that is united, that is unified, that recognizes that we can't allow hillary clinton to get a third term for barack obama. his policies have failed this country. 2/3 of the american people believe the country is on the wrong track when it comes to national security, to the economy, to obamacare. these policies haven't worked. we need a new direction. martha: you know he what? a lot of people sort in the rise of trump have pointed the finger at you guys frankly. people on capitol hill are not getting anything done. now you guys will sit down with donald trump. what are you going to say to him? how are you going to approach that part of this equation? >> well look, in order for anything consequential to happen here in washington you have to have presidential leadership. yes, we in the united states senate i believe in the last few years have tried to get some things done and i think been fairly successful given what
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we're dealing with, a president who opposes us at every turn. we would like to work with a president that actually wants to get things done for the country, big bold things that will get the economy growing at faster rate, get better paying jobs, keep americans safe into the future. those are type of things we want to find common ground with donald trump on. i'm hopeful this meeting today will represent the first opportunity for at least him to convey his vision for us and give a better understanding what we need to do to hang on to the majority in the senate and change the direction of the country. martha: here is newt gingrich talking about all this. get your thoughts. >> one of trump ace great strengths he is like the boy who says the empour are hears no clothings. when trump sees something stupid that is stupid. that is enormous shock to many of our friends here who have been told saying lacking in brilliance, closest you get to stupid. martha: he saying enough with all the formalities. word is some of the senators will talk to him about toning it
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down a little bit and toning down insults. do you expect to hear that conversation there today? >> i expect it will be fairly frank conversation. and it should be. stakes are very high for the future of this country. he is our presumptive no, ma'am knee. we have a lot of senators running for senate this year. we want a senate majority for republican president to work with come next year. it is important as we pivot to the general election we get it right. i suspect that the conversation will, will involve the tone for the campaign. i think it will talk about the policy issues that will be debate the during the campaign and for sure what donald trump's vision and agenda is for the future of this country. martha: will you ask him to tone it down? >> well, i don't that -- we'll see in the discussion, martha. i am some 1:00 like many who would love to see him tone it down. i think both in terms of what he says and how he says it, sometimes there are ways that i think can be communicated that
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is more winsome to more people across the country and i think general election context that will have to be the case. i think he is someone who is smart guy. he understands what is at stake. as he gets ready to run a general election campaign this fall that he has got to appeal to all voters across this country and i expect that we'll hear from that today. martha: look forward to talk with you afterwards and seeing what you think. thank you very much, senator. >> thanks, martha. bill: so we do have one update from meeting number one. now that meeting number two is underway. still anticipating meeting number three next hour. reince priebus, chair of rnc, it was in his words, great, positive and a step forward toward party unity. that's what he said. back in a moment on that in d.c. as cameras continue to follow each and over move.
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martha: we finally had little something to go on. getting information what happened in the meeting, as you heard, positive overall. wouldn't expect them to say anything else, would you? here is what we're learning from john roberts on the scene. ryan did outline his agenda to donald trump. so they got a little bit specific in this meeting and that trump also explained to ryan the things he thinks are very important to him as he runs for president. so the source saying they wouldn't characterize whether or not paul ryan is quote, there yet, on the donald trump issue of endorsement, but that generally the two were described as quote, getting along very well. so we'll see where that leads. that is what we've got so far. bill: meantime we're three months away from cleveland. republicans getting ready for what may be unusual or chaotic convention in the city. head of police union with major
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concerns, with less than 90 days to go, they are in no way, shape or form prepared. that is a quote. mike tobin live in cleveland. what can they get done in three months time? >> president of the cleveland police patrolman's association says they are not on schedule for the convention. police riot suits were ordered late. they haven't arrived yet. cops only measured for the gear after it was already ordered. with exactly 68 days to go until the convention, things like bikes for bike cops. other tools have not arrived. loomis says, they do not have time to train ahead of the convention. >> you have to be proficient using this stuff. right now we're not. we have not been there. we don't even have gas masks at this point. reporter: cleveland city councilman who is chairman of public safety, he has a different take. there is plenty of planning, training court nation taking
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place. but all that does not get filtered down to the rank-and-file grants. they get $50 million grant for hosting convention. 20 million goes to gear. 30 million goes to police housing for food for cops coming out of the city. bill: beautiful shot. what about outside party, can they weigh in whether or not cleveland is ready? reporter: i talked with chief rodney monroe who handled security for the 2012 democratic convention. timing of arrival of gear is less important. training is important. if things get ugly here in cleveland, it i training police fall back on. >> it is important to begun training, starting training. hopefully the equipment once it arrives it can be deployed accordingly. so i would not have a big, overwhelming concern if it wasn't here today. reporter: now an organization calling itself dumb trump applied for -- dump trump, applied for permits for convention. the spokesman says if the permits are denied, they will
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march illegally. good indication police have their hands full. bill: mike tobin. hello, cleveland. martha: hope they get that out before we work there. bill: name that movie. spinal tap. now you heard it. martha: so you know they had the first meeting. we're starting to get some tea leaves here. they outlined agenda they want to see played out by the republican party and quote, got along very well. the next meeting is with the senators. that is still ahead. john thune will be in there. they want to talk about tone. donald trump doesn't love to talk about tone. he says there is need for his tone in america right now. so rnc headquarters on the left where everything is taking place. he will stop to talk to reporters when he comes out? all those people have been camped out there all morning. we certainly hope so. we don't know. we'll see when they come out straight ahead.
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scene. he is giving us some of the color as we call it coming out of the meeting. latest bit we have from him the source describes the tone between trump and ryan in this fashion, no bs, very helpful when those gentlemen got together. next meeting is up on senate side of capitol hill area and senators want to sit down, mitch mcconnell among them, donald trump among them and also john thune who we spoke to will be there. we'll see where the whole thing goes. it is interesting. donald trump goes to washington. bill: continue with conversation with a senior advisor national spokesperson more moveon.org and former campaign manager for martin o'malley campaign and republican strategist, lisa booth, high noon strategies and fox news contributor. i want to talk about the expectation, the meaning there. the new numbers about the economy which will be a significant factor six months from now. lisa, you start. what do you expect from the trump meetings?
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>> hopefully it is party. the republican party needs to unite. what we've seen, a reduced tone from both paul ryan and donald trump prior to the meeting, because reality they need each other. look, donald trump needs the organizational structure, the data and fund-raising prowess that comes from the republican party. he needs the republican party. and alternatively, individuals who are running for both re-election and senate in the house also needed donald trump to do well at the top of the ticket. so mutually beneficial relationship where -- bill: you sound optimistically. so -- >> i'm optimistic person. bill: core reason, measure it up. >> great to be optimistic but what we've seen from trump over last year, several months, it is probably unlikely. look, the meeting has to go well. it probably will go well but see if it lasts right? that is the thing we've seen here with trump. donald trump, is that one good moment that he has. things go well. the next thing you know it is like, you know, 180.
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we'll see. i'm not confident. bill: we'll see if there is political whiplash in your commentary there. ladies, "the financial times," america's middle class meltdown. this is going to be in all likelihood issue number one in november. median household income in springfield, ohio, that is southwestern ohio, near dayton, down 27% in 15 years. median household income, detroit, dearborn, southeastern michigan, reagan democrats, down 18% in 15 years. lisa, who makes the best argument to satisfy those voters? >> donald trump and this is going to be the single biggest story from the 2016 election. hillary clinton is going to have such an impossible time connecting with these working class families who have suffered at hands of president obama's failed policies, suffered at hands of regulations that sent jobs overseas, that shuttered coal plants in coal country and manufacturing states like ohio and michigan as well as.
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you look at comment that hillary clinton makes about working class americans. those comments she made about west virginia coal miners, saying she wants to shut down the coal jobs and shut down the coal plants, that kind of message, that disconnect from reality, disconnect from working class america that is going to make her, that will her at disadvantage in states like michigan, states like wisconsin, states like lye, tradition i in democratic hands that could go to donald trump. bill: that is the way trump is talking. corrine, how do you counter that. >> no question worker wages sagnant over last self years. ceo's wages skyrocket go through the roof, while workers rages are stagnant. a report by glass door showed ceo pay rash i don't from to workers is 204 to one. four ceo's are being paid a
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thousand times more than what workers are doing. so has, donald trump's and also bernie sanders tapped into something? most definitely. >> hillary clinton hasn't been able to tap into that. >> i think she will. i think that will happen. i believe democratic party will unify behind the nominee and bernie sanders has -- bill: let me squeeze this in. do you know who else is making a lot of money? the u.s. government. are you ready. the tax revenue set a new record for first several months of 2016. i think that's trillion. is that how many zeros that is? because we don't see that very often. $1.9 trillion into the u.s. treasury. so i asked both of you, if you're a voter, what are you getting for your hard work? what are you getting tax money you're sending to washington in return? where are the results? lisa? >> bill, there aren't and that's the problem. this is the problem, to counter my democratic counter part's points here, reality the problem
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hillary clinton is going to have, she can not connect with those voters. she is talking about the fact income inequality is the worst it's been since the 1920s. guess who has been in office? president obama. she is running as extension of those failed economic policies. small businesses are paying $11,000 per worker. we have more small businesses going under in this economy than being created in first time in history. you have got someone like donald trump business guy who is tapping into those frustrations. bill: interest of time, corrine, defend yourself on that. what does hillary clinton say in all likelihood? >> in the past 17 month we have seen jobs being created especially in the private sector. 14 million jobs the not only that we have 20 million people now covered under obamacare, right. so there has been some growth but it has been some movement. is there a part of the population still suffer? most definitely, we would be ignorant to not see that but i believe hillary clinton or bernie sanders, whoever makes it
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through the primary, most likely hillary clinton as we've been saying she will, they will unify and come back together. bill: we'll get you to make a choice next time, okay? corrine and lisa, thank you, ladies, for coming out today. appreciate it. >> thank you. martha: things are confusing here? political crisis exploding today in brazil. just months before the summer olympics get underway in rio lawmakers voting to impeach, dell ma rousseff. steve harrigan joins us from brazilia, brazil. reporter: a few thousand rousseff supporters are out here. they have been loud and peaceful. small crowd tried to grab a government sponsored journalist. she managed to get away before they got her. rousseff has been out here speaking to the crowd. she void to fight on. she lost a major vote in early morning hours.
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senate suspended her as brazil's president. what happens she goes on trial. a trial that could last six months. and eventually end in her impeachment. we'll see here now in brazil is major shift in power. rousseff was one-time leftist marxist guerrilla, leading leftist party in brazil. she will be replaced by her vice president, 75-year-old lawyer. a conservative seen as pro-business. a big shift in power. really the vice president as well is under corruption probe as well. so four out of the five top political figures here in brazil have either been suspended for corruption or being charged with corruption. really hard to find anybody clean on any side. keep in mind, brazil has the olympics coming up in three months time. before the olympics they have the worst recession in 100 years to deal with. they have the zika virus to deal with. now they have political unrest. not clear who will be president during the olympic games. martha, back to you. martha: that is the rough ride with the spotlight of the world
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on them no doubt. steve, thank you very much. bill: rnc chair reince priebus weighing in. saying meeting with donald trump is good step forward. we await to hear from speaker paul ryan making remarks next hour. how will he characterize that? we're on stand by live in d.c. martha: there have been two new bombings in iraq. 24 hours after the deadliest day in baghdad. we showed you bombs that went off yesterday. should this increase, should isis attacks continue to increase should u.s. involvement ramp up? we'll talk to jack keane coming up. >> as we've seen, as the enemy loses more and more terrain, they resort some of these desperate acts. [crowd cheering] i could get used to this. now you can. when you lease the 2016 es 350 for $329 a month for 36 months. see your lexus dealer.
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bill: meeting number one has concluded. meeting number two has concluded perhaps as well. there are reports that it has. donald trump meets with senators
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on the senate side. this is significant day in this campaign. all likelihood we were talking about earlier in the hour, this is one of those moments where you look back, did they do it, did they get together or did they not and what is the effect of all of that? so stand by as are we from washington. martha: a pair of homicide bombers kill at least five police officers in baghdad today. these attacks follow yesterday wave of bombings that took the lives of 93 people as iraqi forces advance on mosul. white house keeping an eye on security situation over there. listen to this. >> the goal that we have laid out is to try to put in place the conditions by the end of the year where mosul could be retaken. the groundwork is being laid as we speak. this is a tall order. this is the second largest city in iraq. martha: tall order, as you heard from the white house. general jack keane, chairman of institute of study of war and
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fox news military analyst. good to have you here. there is so much focus what is going on here politically but this is a huge part of president obama's agenda, to defeat and destroy isil and it is not going well. >> yeah, well certainly he said that to us in the summer of 2014, largely driven by the terrible beheads that took place. he recognized that public support was outraged by it. so, destroy isis was the mission but he never put the resources in place to do that. he rejected two significant options. one was to put at least 10,000 troops into iraq to enable the iraqi army rapidly to put itself back together with advisors down at low levels to make a difference on the battlefield when they're conducting assaults against isis. and two, he turned down the saudi arabia's offer to put together an arab coalition with modest u.s. participation and u.s. leadership to retake the territory in syria and turn it
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back over to the syrian arabs. those two things were taken off the table. we've gone through 10 gradual escalations of troops leading to where we are today. what that means, martha, is, is that the new president will come on board, turn to its military leaders in the pentagon and the new defense secretary, saying give me options to destroy and defeat isis. the options will change as a result of that. martha: very interesting piece that has been mined since last weekend when it came out in the "new york times." it was a profile of ben rhodes, the deputy national security advisor. it gives us a lot of insight to the messaging on this issue. it looks back at the state of the union address that was given back in january. and this is part of that state of the union address. but as we focus on destroying isil, over the top claims this is a world, that this is world war iii, play into their hands. masses of fighters on back of
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pickup trucks, twisted souls plotting in apartments and garages, they pose an enormous danger to civilians and they have to be stopped and but do not threaten our national existence. look back on the words, you many times suggested this is generational conflict that must be dealt with. >> yeah, absolutely we're in generational idealogical struggle in the 21st century much as we were with communist ideology after world war ii. it is not world war iii in the sense of a world war ii-like experience but it is very much a serious national security challenge. is there any doubt that if isis or radical islamists got their hands on some form of wmd, and they had the opportunity to use it in europe or united states they would not do that? i mean that's the horrible facts of the case. to say that it is not an existential threat, this is not a major security problem to the american people is just trying to wash away the reality of what
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is taking place. martha: when you look at the genocide reported by "60 minutes" last weekend that's going on ethnic groups, yazidis, christians on this president and this administration's watch, how do you think history will reflect on what was done to save those people? >> i think history will reflect, number one, that we significantly underestimated this isis threat early on despite, as you suggest, genocide against people who don't hold their religion. secondly, isis killed more muslims than anybody else. to take control of muslim territories they have to kill muslims who are controlling those territories and that's the real i of it. overall we have gone through in my judgment, two administrations that have failed to grasp the significance of the radical islamic spread to jihad that is becoming a global menace to this
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civilization and we have to gather together thoughtful people from countries around the world to put together an alliance finally makes sense to do something about it. martha: yeah. >> i'm hopeful that a new president will recognize that and finally get on with doing what needs to be done and lead the world in that effort. martha: not to mention here at home comey suggested there are hundreds of people that are being investigated in terms of potential operational motives and activities here in this country, fighting on behalf of isis as well. general jack keane, thank you very much. big picture, important one to keep in mind as we look at this election. thank you, sir. >> good talking to you, martha. martha: you too. bill: back to meeting number two. we expect paul ryan to speak at 11:30 eastern time. he will be in front of the microphone then. that is 40 minutes from now. we'll carry his first comments live after his first meetings, with donald trump. we also have this.
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rapid firestorms unleash a fearsome force of nature. watch. just look at that sky. terrifying moments as tornadoes bring chaos to so many, but according to our next guest you don't need to be afraid as long as you are informed. janice dean how parents and kids can stay weather ready. >> not going anywhere. looking for balance in your digestive system? try align probiotic. for a non-stop, sweet treat goodness, hold on to your tiara kind of day. live 24/7. with 24/7 digestive support. try align, the #1 ge recommended probiotic.
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♪ no, you're not ♪ yogonna watch it! ♪tch it! ♪ ♪ we can't let you download on the goooooo! ♪ ♪ you'll just have to miss it! ♪ yeah, you'll just have to miss it! ♪ ♪ we can't let you download... uh, no thanks. i have x1 from xfinity so... don't fall for directv. xfinity lets you download your shows from anywhere. i used to like that song. martha: word is that they quote, got along very well and that there was no bs. got straight to business when donald trump and paul ryan met. that meeting, that part of the morning is coming to a close. they move on to senate meetings. get you more of feedback as it comes through. we expect to hear from paul ryan
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in fairly short time as well. over to you, bill. bill: martha, thank you. some devastating storms this week in the nation's heartland, powerful tornadoes ripping through oklahoma, texas and kentucky. and there is no end to that. those storms incredibly frightening for anyone especially the children caught in the storm. my next guest met with kids in tornado alley. she is author of the, freddie thing from kaster and terrible tornado. janice dean. >> thanks for having me. it is busy news day. we will leap in withing from news alert if anything happens with donald trump. bill: you write an article, working one day when tornado struck in dallas, texas. >> yes. bill: what do you recall from that? >> we went to live aerial footage, i've been doing this job for 12 years now and it never gets old. it is always terrifying to see tornado damage in a neighborhood where you see houses destroyed
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on one side. other houses remain intact. and the fact that this was near an elementary school just like feet away from a elementary school touched my heart because i was concerned about kids. bill: so this is what the book's about? >> yeah. bill: you went to pierson, texas. >> i did. bill: and how did they react to this? what did you learn from that? >> i was nervous, i will be honest with you. i have visited thousands of kids with these books. this is my fourth book. i believe that is reason what i do go out to visit with kids to talk about severe weather and how they prepare. i was nervous because these kids just a few months ago had their homes destroyed. some of them are still out of their homes. one little boy told me his dad had to go to the hospital because he had glass and debris on him from protecting him and his brother. so i was nervous but the counselors told me, just talk to them. read the book. they will let you know how they feel. and afterwards, you know i had all these kids come up and hug me. they talked to me about their
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fears. you know what, bill? the one thread of all of these schools i visited, not only texas, oklahoma, missouri, kansas, i went to all of these schools. they have amazing resilience. they want to know why things happen and they want to know what to do with tornado watch and warning. this, i love my job here at fox, but i believe my greater mission is to educate kids to go out and talk to them about severe weather. bill: being a young kid, when the skies turn green you never forget that day. >> if we could, we have one picture i want to show. this is yesterday, norman, oklahoma, of a young man went in his safe place, right there. that is the reason i write these books is to make sure kids nowhere to go. it could save their life. bill: thank you jd. >> thank you. martha: so it is very busy in, and there is quite a bit of stormy weather in washington d.c. but they are starting to get together and talk. we expect them so walk out any
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>> tracking every movement, donald trump's caravan has left the building. he is at capitol hill. have a great day. john: donald trump wrapping up his first meeting on capitol hill with the speaker of the house paul ryan and republican national committee chairman called it a positive step. we are awaiting paul ryan's comments. we should have those moments from now and we will have them live. heather: i am in for generally. the republican primary race may just about be

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