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tonight. please always remember that the spin stops right here. we're definitely looking out for you. breaking tonight -- >> i think this is going in a positive direction and i think this is the first very encouraging meeting. but again in 45 minutes you don't litigate all of the process and all of the issues and principles that we're talking about. >> no endorsement, but we are getting new reports of significant progress in the next phase of the republican party's effort to win the white house in 2016. i'm megyn kelly. it was billed as a critical meeting. and donald trump and speaker paul ryan came into this meeting with some very public differences. but tonight some of the folks
inside the room are describing a meeting where both sides left happy. one of them is with us in moments, republican national committee chairman reince prebus who helped around the get together and inside the room today. then we're speak with dr. ben carson. he is speaking to trump's former rivals and there's some big news tonight on that front. but first we begin with senior national correspondent john roberts live in washington, d.c. with the latest. john? >> thank you. good evening to you. what we're hearing from people inside the meetings is that trump went a long way to changing minds or at the very least easing the skepticism or downright opposition that many members of congress have about him and his policies. after the senate meeting, utah senator orrin hatch who backed jeb bush offered trump an endorsement giving him advice saying quote, many constituents have serious reservations about
trump. i hope donald will listen to policymakers and carefully consider his approach to issues. john core nin says there's a way to talk about the issues that isn't offensive to anyone. but despite lingering concerns most senators give trump a big thumb's up. trump did what he came to do. winning cautious praise from the speaker of the house. >> this is a process, it takes time. you don't put it together in 45 minutes. that is why we had, like i said a very good start to a process of how we unify. >> did trump put the wheel in motion. early indications suggest that he did, but it will likely take time for that to be realized. one other stop on trump's ie
stern itinerary, baker was tearing a strip off of trump's foreign policy proposals in a senate committee hearing under questioning by senator caro rub be. baker wubz critical of trump's positions on nato and nuclear weapons in japan and south korea. trump wanted a few minutes with baker to talk the things through. megyn? >> thank you. joining us now rsc chairman reince prebus. thank you for being here. what do you think is the -- what are the criteria for an endorsement. what do you think paul ryan is looking for? >> well i just think, you know just getting comfortable. i think honestly that paul believed like a lot of people that we all had another 30 day to kick the tires and at least go to california -- >> what do you need to know about trump that you don't already know? what do you need to know?
>> i think an endorsement in paul's mind is an important thing. it's a public hug and vote of approval. and i think paul takes it seriously. and i'll just tell you that everything you said leading up to the question to me was accurate. both donald trump and paul ryan left the room. i think they both expected a good meeting but i think they both left and were even more kind of impressed with each other leaving the room. there was far more agreement than there was any disagreement. and there was also an agreement to keep talking, very quickly, to get to a place where everyone was comfortable. paul wants to get there and today was more than great start. >> what does he talk about? substance? policy? >> well both. both substance, policy. our party and working together. you know obviously i don't want to ruin it for everyone but i can't really get into the details. people can understand if i'm
going to be a good chairman and intermediary i can't come on a show -- >> they won't let you back in any meetings. you can't blab. >> not a good rule on my part. it was substance. >> this is what people say who think paul ryan can never endorse trump. trump favors a ban on all muslims coming into the united states. trump wants to deport all of the illegal immigrants who are here in this country. he want a mandatory deportation. he says nato is obsolete. trump says the government is going to pay for health care in this country. he said the government will take care of people. these are not republican ideas. these are -- in fact they've been disavowed by most top republicans. does paul ryan needs assurances on things like those in. >> i disavowed some of those things myself. but i think donald trump understands that he's heading into the general election and i
think he heard on a couple of those items, you know he's visiting the subjects again. i think you saw some of that today. look i think we have a candidate that has brought in more votes than any nominee in the history of our party. but he's also someone who has never in his life run for public office. just think about that for a second. never run for any public office and he's done pretty darn well. but he's also someone that understands that he's moving into a general election he understands he wants to be presidential and gracious and focus on hillary clinton and how she's not a good answer for our future. >> how does that work? driven that given his win and the amount of votes he has, how does it work? does he have to move closer to the party platform on these issues including planned parenthood which he says does wonderful things or do you need to move closer to him? he's the one with the votes. >> first of all i think you got to ask donald trump that.
but i can answer for the party. the party is the party and we're here and you know as far as our platform is concerned, it's in going to change. so i think donald trump brings to the table something that at least for us is something very different. and if we're being honest with each other, the same old way that we've been doing things in running for president hasn't worked out very well for us. >> correct. >> so for all of the smart people out there that think they know what's best hasn't been worked working. >> you're talking about yourself really. >> i suspect the nominee, megyn. there are 17 candidates. whatever candidate was going to be the chosen candidate i would support. and so that's what i've always said i was going to do -- >> what happens in july. >> -- moving into july. >> what happens in july? the republican party has a platform. it includes being pro-life.
now you're going to have a nominee nominee. he is not going to be in line with the platform. does that matter? what if the nominee doesn't match up with the platform? >> wait a second. i hear what you're saying. it's a good question. i'm not critical of it. but john mccain and mitt romney and both bushes they didn't line up exactly with the platform either. >> it doesn't matter. they tonight need to. >> it does matter. the point matters because there's -- i don't know if anyone lines up 100% with the platform of the party. i think the point is do you agree with 80%, 90%, 95% of it. we're there with that. ronald reegen said my 80% friend is not my 20% enemy. we don't expect 100% purity but we expect for the most part for a vast majority of your positions line up with our platform and i think he does. >> fascinating. thank you for being here.
>> thank you. well at the same time trump was meeting with republican leaders, dr. ben carson announced he's reaching out to trump's former rivals in the presidential race hoping he'll support trump, that includes senator lindsey graham. senator graham announced earlier today he had a 15-minute phone call with trump about national security a call graham described as cordial and pleasant. but just last week graham said quote trump did not have the judgment to be president. this is interesting between graham and trump. i mean if trump can get lindsey graham to support him, it will be an epic reversal. you tell me dr. carson. this is from lindsey graham. if he nominate trump we'll get dedestroyed and deserve it. it will tear the party apart. it will be the third term of barack obama. he's unnerving, pathetic, worse
than 0 bamobama. he's a jackass, a nut job with a loser. if trump can get lindsey graham on board, he's doing pretty well. >> during the heat of the campaign people say all kinds of amazing things. and then they turn out being buddies. i'm sure you remember you know the whole videoudu economics between -- >> i remember him saying you were a childo. >> exactly. if you get caught up with those things, you're not going to get var far. that's the politics today. you notice i didn't get into it. but the fact of the matter is the republican party is coming to understand that they cannot sit on the sidelines and allow hillary or whoever the take control and get two to four supreme court picks which will fundamentally change america from what it is.
everyone will eventually come to that conclusion. it takes some people a little longer. that there are wounds that have to heal. i understand that. but i think they're intelligent people and they understand what the consequences of sitting on the sidelines are. >> but do you really -- i mean for the record senator graham said my position remains the same regarding both candidates running for president but he says i'll do what i can in the senate to help the next president who will inherit a mess. it sounds like he's not getting close to endorsing donald trump but he's accepting the outreach and willing to talk. but what about rivals like jeb bush with whom things got so personal like ted cruz you know whose wife was attacked by trump. do you see any chance of those guys coming on board? jeb has already telegraphed no. >> well i would love to see a situation where all of the candidate comes together in a room without a press and we talk
about the things that we envision and how we expect to get there. and look for the things that we have in common and agree to work together. after all, this is our country that we're talking about. and we're talking about the future for our children and our grandchildren. we've got to be able to get over our own personal feelings. it's about more than any one person. if people can come to understand that we'll do just fine as a nation. >> what about, i mean what they say is that the back and forth they had the trump are not just about their feelings, it revealed the character of a man and in some cases they say they cannot support that character. it mess more than just the personal attacks. it's reversals, positions on policies. how are you going to get past that in trying to recruit these guys into the fold? >> well one of the things you have to understand is that
donald trump is not a politician. he doesn't people like aspeak like a politician. politicians learn how to polish everything and say it in a nice neat package. he doesn't know how to do that. i hope he never learns how to do it. that's the way normal people are and it resonates with them and it's going to make a big difference in the long run. and the political establishment just needs to understand that this is a new day. we need a new day. we can't continue going down the same road. and you know maybe it's a little risky moving with somebody who never has been in a political office. but i don't know how it's as risky as what we were doing earlier. and if we can just utilize some of the experience of lindsey graham and some of the others in a positive way to make sure we're successful we'll be just fine. >> i cannot leave without reliving this mome was one of the
most epic moments of the campaign. lindsey graham had given donald trump his cell phone number and then this happen. >> so lindsey graham says to me please please whatever you can do. i'm saying to myself what is this guy, a beggar? he's begging me to help him with fox and friends. i say okay i'll mention your name. he said could you mention my name and he gave me his number and i found the card. i wrote the number down. i don't know if it's the writing number. let's try it 202-[ bleep ]. i don't know maybe it's -- e three, four years ago. >> which then led to senator graham posting -- yeah it was the right number. this was a problem for him. and i'll leave you with a tease, dr. carson. something related to this is discussed between yours truly and mr. trump in your sit down
that airs next tuesday at 8:00. >> we're looking forward to it. should be fun. >> we'll leave it at that. great to see you, sir. while republicans try to draw up support, new leaked comes today regarding facebook and who the social media giant has a bias against conservatives. how could this play leading up to the november election. we'll show you what the company said in its own words. see with the "washington post" decision to target trump with almost two dozen reporters may end up helping his campaign. we got some news on this today. is it true? are they really using two dozen reporters? we'll tell you when the power panel joins us next, dana loesch and shapiro next. the world's most dishonest people are back there. look at all of the cameras going. look at all of those cameras. unbelievable. they are dishonest, most of them not all of them, but most of them. uts can work for you? that's right.
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out. >> the "washington post", we have 20 people working on trump, we're going to do a book and arables on every phase of his life. >> ben shapiro is editor in chief at daily wire and dana loesch is cost of dana. the post came out and said, look, jeff doesn't give u.s. the direction we're going to run the paurp. we're going to cover the candidates equally. do they have a point? >> they have a point. and they have a point that the washington post has been stepping it up both sides. however we know that thing that happens where after the republican gets out of the nominating process they come out
with giant machetes and hacking. mitt romney cut a guy's hair. if you're enough of a conspiracy theorist to believe there was a plan to wait until the general election to start unloading the stuff on donald trump in the establishment press, this would go to that point. >> ben, you look like you're at a lineup. i don't know where we have you tonight. right? >> this is where donald trump is going to put me after this election if he wins the presidency. >> that's better. i see a flowerpot behind you. do you think this is a case of the media holding back because we have been told by a lot of folks during the republican primary, if he gets it, they're going to unleash hell on him? >> i think this is a reality tv show that's far beyond what they can control at this point. today's ryan/trump meeting was the bachelor with reince prebus
playing harrison. the only question is if he was going to give him a rose or offer him a night in the suite. i'm not sure the media can control it. what do they hit him with? he's done everything publicly. unless you catch him with a horse or something. >> i want out. >> dana what say you? if the past elections are any guide, none of these mainstream news outlets is going to go too tough on hillary clinton. >> he's out. >> he left. it was too much for him. >> i was pleased to see good for them they're making enough money where they can hire 20 people to cover one candidate. that's good for them. the news business is going well. here's the thing. when do they ever do this for a democrat? where do they do this for barack obama? and are they going to do the same thing for hillary clinton?
are they going to hire 20 people for the hillary beat? are they going to go through all of her e-mails? >> that's the question. but the other question as you pointed out, chris, is what does it matter? he has been the teflon don. it's not like nothing controversial about donald trump happened in the past ten months. it's the republicans at least, or at least some huge number of republicans don't care. >> alewell not only that the truth has been -- i think ben made a very good point, about the sanity suite but about the part where today this was covered like the papal visit to washington, d.c. it was pen to post coverage a lot of it breathless and for the political press corps standing outside, is he here there, what did he say. >> the countdown on msnbc. cnn with a shot of trump's plane. wolf blitzer was walking us
through the plane's progress on the tarmac. >> i'm surprised they didn't have a hologram. that's the next thing that comes. >> thought it was the second coming. finish your point >> just if hillary clinton thinks she can break through this news cycle with a snapchat video, it's not going to happen. if he can own the media space in the way that he did many the bring mayor, she's hosed. she's got to find a way to break this. >> ben one of my favorite things tonight was an msnbc banner said breaking news trump gives head's up going into the meeting. >> they're treating him like some sort of j.d. sallen jer reck loose and you can't find him. keep the cameras on at all times. he's blowing on a ram's hoern and singing ode to trump. this media is covering this like
it's news. >> the bag piper was there. this is reported on look. okay. you can see the issue here.piper player. it doesn't just the other networks. in msnbc's defense, there was a day here at fox news when was a report near the d.c. bureau when i saw the following, fox news alert, the white house christmas tree has arrived at the white house. none of us has perfectly clean hands. great to see you all. tonight, senator harry reid unloading after donald trump meets with senator mitch mcconnell. >> senator mcconnell has so enthusiastically embraced trump, we can assume that he agrees
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well 2016 moment today on the floor of the u.s. senate. it came when harry lead took to microphoneses to react to a meeting between donald trump and senator leader mitch mcconnell. >> since senator mcconnell embraced trump, we can assume he agrees with trump's view that women are dogs and pigs. we can only assume that the republican leader is not repulsed by donald trump's vulgar behavior towards him. joining me now, tucker. great to see you beth. is that going to work? >> it's basically the hillary clinton campaign elect me as the first woman, if you don't like me you're a sexist. there's some truth in what he says. i'm for politeness by the way
and i'm not going to defend them. but it's one thing to attack a individual but it doesn't make you a hate are of all women. kind of ludacris attack on that level. they're making that calculation on the basis of the knowledge already. it's not a surprise. and finally the question that hangs in the air, he's got an unusual personal life. sit weirder than hillary's personal life? do you want to have a contest of who's got a weirder personal life? probably not. >> tucker is wrong here in that sense that i don't think -- look this is a big problem for republicans in the sense that donald trump said some amazing incendiary things about women, mexicans about muslims, a lot of folks. republican voters chose trump to
be their nominee. if they do they're going to have to answer for -- >> does it mean you support everything he's said and done in. >> i think that is a question that those candidates and republican members of congress are going to have to answer. if you support donald trump people are going to want to know why' they're going to want to know how you can support someone who said all of these things and thinks all of these things about women and minorities. >> i know the answer rmgs you know how the interviews are going to go for those who endorsed trump. i went over with with reince prebus. do you support a bab of all muslims, do you support deportation, do you support this language about women. that's how it's going to go. i. >> i mean the hilarious thing about the line of argument it's the opposite of the truth. the congressional leadership is supporting trump at gunpoint. he ran against them. he only exists because they failed. they hate each other as everybody knows. so the idea that they're sort of
welcoming him with open arms he's been forced on them by their own voters. and the other point to make is a lot of the policies horrify npr listeners and uptight white liberals but they have a lot of support in the country. what's the argument against securing the borders. it's not racist to want secure borders. >> it's stuff like deportation. what does that mean many. >> i don't know. i mean it's not a massive leap to say if there are people here illegally and you believe they're taking jobs from americans with you can make that case. there's numbers to back it up. i don't know. people who break the law should leave. doesn't mean you have to round up every person. he hasn't expressed it well. but the idea isn't like a nazi idea. it's basic idea. >> all of these issues are at play. but we saw the poll this week that showed him within two or beating hillary in pennsylvania
ohio and florida. >> yeah, lockok. i think hillary clinton is going to win and she's going to be the next president. but it's not a slam dunk. i think tucker is right. some these things do have support in the country. if you look at battleground polls, there are going to be arguments to be had. donald trump isn't just talking about building a wall he's calling mexicans a rapists. and saying we should ban muslims. these are fairly radical ideas. i don't think they have broad based support. but there are corners of america where they have support. the thing that's tricky for the congressional cab dates on the republican side they can stand with trump and alienate independent voters and left-leaning conservatives or push themselves away from trump and risk alienating trump supporters. for them they've got a real math problem. they can't get together a coalition of voters that are going to get them over the top
and that's where you'll see the impact of a trump candidacy. >> thanks guys. i got a chance to visit "the tonight show" earlier with jimmy fallon and we stole a little video on the way out. we're going to give you a preview of "the tonight show" tonight. plus facebook taking new fire about a bias against conservatives after damaging company documents turned up today. we'll have them for you next. >> young 20-somethings often ivy league educated are the ones sorting through the news feed and determining what people are able to see and more importantly what they're not able to see.
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giant have a bias against conservatives. it comes on the same day that some damaging documents turned up in a newspaper. trace gallagher has the details. >> again today facebook denied instructing any of its employees to suppress conservative news sites. facebook responded quoting, we have a series of checks and balances in place to help surface the most important poll you lar stories regardless of where they fall on the ideological spectrum. but critics argue that bias is built in. they rely primarily on ten news sources, cnn, msnbc, yahoo! the washington post, guardian washington journal and fox news channel. it has to be the lead story on at least five of those websites. conservatives would argue most of those sites are left leaning. so a story important to liberals
is likely to be on five of those sites. but a story important to conservatives like the irs scandal or the benghazi investigation would certainly be on fox news but not the other sites. and despite a facebook executive saying quote we do not insert stories artificially into trending topics facebook's own documents show that editors are taught to inject stories getting attention bike black lives matter and to blacklist other stories for a variety of reasons. in fact three former facebook news ed toshs told the guardian news letter at their discretion they inserted stories. and this becomes more important when you consider 60% of millennials and 40% of baby boomers get most of their political news from facebook pap and the statement you just mentioned, mark zuckerberg came out saying this whole matter is being fully investigated and invited conservative leaders to
meet with him to get their input about that topic. >> thank you. turning now with more senior editor at the daily caller, jamey weinstein. so zuckerberg came out saying look we have found no evidence that this report is true. he says we're investigating it but he says so far they've investigated and they have found this is not true that they're injecting more liberal storying and removing more conservative ones. >> there are certainly allegations that contradict that. even if that's true and there's no active bias in what they're saying the sources which they draw from as was just mentioned, by that very definition or by the very nature will exclude stories like the planned parenthood videos. i don't think that got much national coverage on five of the ten sources that they say they draw from. maybe fox news but not 0 the e 0s. that will be excluded from the
trending topics and that has a major effect. >> do you think that's done by design. it's no secret -- i believe there's a left leaning bias in most of the mainstream media and it think it exists in a way that's almost latent no the minds that make the decisions. they believe they're fair but they don't believe it's their bias driving the editorial choice. >> i think there's two egg waysegues. one is that it's blatant, that they took topics down stories abcpac or glenn beck. >> lois lerner. >> right. exactly. mark zuckerberg denied that was the days. but they might not realize the bias that's going into it but they only hire people that are kind of liberal in nature which we see in the media generally. you hire people of like mind. so you connell go to the sources that has they think are objective but not covering
stories that are significant i think to everybody. but particularly to conservatives. >> what they're saying is we have human beings who will put up a story if we can see that it's not getting the attention it deserves. it's not getting picked up by all 0 these websites but it's a real story generated by the people and the example they gave was the black lives matter. that begs the question did you do that for the tea party movement? you need a real person. do you do that about darren wilson? once upinject a person's editorial opinion, it has to be disclosed and you have to have protocols in place to make sure that's going to be fair and balanced. >> right. and i think the key point is transparency here. they're claiming this was an algorithm before this came out, very little human reaction. now we know there's much more human reaction. to some people, that's the only
place they get their news. this has the power to shape and break candidates. it's important that zuckerberg is transparent in this. >> yeah you're a young conservative conservative. >> i'm willing. also tonight we have new reports of what's happening behind the scenes with kelly ripa and michael strahan. plus a sneak peek of an eye opening conversation with attorney robert shapiro. and the best video you'll see next week when brian kilmeade joins us next. puppies and babies. if you've gone to extremes to escape your nasal allergies. try clarispray.
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well for several weeks a lot of drama has been unfolding on the set of "live with kelly and michael" tomorrow michael strahan deports as the cohost. brian kilmeade, comost of fox and friends. so tmz added to the drama today. i know this cannot be good for you. you're going to be competing against somebody you really like. >> he's going to good morning america.
he's joining the cast of 900 people. >> you know what i also noticed? michael strahan didn't get a question in. did you notice that? >> i think there was one. >> there might have been one. it was two great pieces. but the story behind the scenes is i've gotten to know michael strahan since he broke in with the giants. you walk in the locker room and they know your name and you can tell this you're name. this guy is talented but the word is they weren't getting a long for a while and he was looking to jump and part of it was he'd like to bring his friends in and have a good time and be loud. she didn't like that behind the scenes and maybe that started to wear on him in the big picture. >> let me say this. having been the subject of multiple news reports this year i can tell you this, most of them are total b.s. you have to take it with a healthy grain of salt. >> okay. if you want to do that you can do that.
i talked to people that were there. >> go on. >> all right. fine. >> you didn't say that. >> peopls about to do a story and it came out a few hours ago and it's going to hit the press if anyone picks up anything on the presses anymore but it's going to be kelly ripa talking about what she wants. someone she can trust. >> she's looking in the camera. >> i'm very happy with two fine co-hosts who hopefully will not talk to people magazine or megyn kelly. >> i want to talk about what is going on at oxford. trigger warnings for the law students. >> oxford is a four year college in england. it's an excellent school. they write the story that at oxford now they're telling law students before we talk about a homicide or brutal murder or anything that could be ugly or make you uncomfortable so we're going to give you a trigger warning.
so you get to leave the class and if they continue to study this for a week you get to stay out of class. >> i can't even. so basically these students are going to have to learn about murder cases without learning about murder cases. >> guess who's to blame? america. because we have started with the safe spaces. we have started with the -- the book that you might get a chance to write. when america sneezes, the nose runs in england. i made that up. you can use that tomorrow as your own because no one's watching thursday. they watch friday. i think this is incredible but it's good news. there will be perfect attendance for the shoplifting slaszclasses. >> as long as that's your crime you committed you can hire a lawyer from oxford. robert is part of my special on tuesday. that's american idol.
>> a lot of people who are not lawyers look at lawyers in particular criminal defense attorneys and say how can they live with themselves. this man in the mind of many committed two brutal murders and you and the dream team got him an aquital. so i'll ask you that question how can you live with yourself. >> lawyers have an obligation to do their best for somebody accused of a crime and that's how our system works. our system of justice is one that's balanced. we hope and pray that innocent people are never convicted and the price we pay is that guilty people sometimes do and will go free. >> i like him. i interviewed him for a book i was in. he was portrayed well by john travolta but not accurately. everybody thinks he's sucking up to hollywood stars. i thought he had wanted to cut a
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five days away from the brand new show megyn kelly presents and tonight jimmy fallon will have me on to discuss it. >> i want to talk about this thing because there's a big -- there's a big special coming up and you're enterinterviewing a bunch of people. who are you interviewing? >> donald trump. >> i was go to end with donald trump you guys didn't really get along. >> so we didn't -- mostly through twitter. >> exactly. >> we did not talk for a long time and then i reached out to him in april and asked him -- >> you reached out to him after
the debates. you guys didn't really talk. >> there had been -- there was a lull in the tweets. >> yeah. >> and i had wanted to go speak with him. i wanted him to stop and i knew if i could get face to face with him he would stop. i think -- i don't what his motivations were for the whole dustup. >> you went to see him. >> i contacted him and asked if he would see me and he said no and then i asked again and he said yes. i went down one morning and walked into trump tower and got past a bunch of eyeballs that were as big as saucers. hello, how are you. >> she is here. the one who must not be named. >> our special has exclusives with lavern cox. >> i'm going to watch.
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