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your questions or property stories at that's it for today. i'm bob massi. i'll see you next week. ♪ this week on "the journal editorial report" goes to washington. his meeting with paul ryan and where they're likely to agree and disagree. bernie sanders will take it to the convention after polls show he will be the stronger candidate in november so will hillary be saved by the superdelegates and in the battle for campaign cash trumps turns to big money donors. can he compete with the clinton money machine? but first these headlines. good saturday to you. i'm leland vittert in washington. the state of texas is willing and ready to forgo billions of dollars if federal funds for schools. top offs in the lone star state say they will not comply with the obama administration's new guidelines on transgender
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students and which bathroom they use. at the top of the hour, an exclusive interview with texas attorney general ken paxton who says a lawsuit may soon be coming. and be patient. that's what dhs chief jeh johnson is telling travelers facing long and frustrating lines at airport security. ahead, why the lines will likely only get longer this summer. and as the gop tries to unite around their candidate, across the aisle, hillary clinton and bernie sanders are set to face off in another round of primaries next week. clinton hoping to snag a win in kentucky after being trounced next door in west virginia. we're going to take a look at the state of the race with more and these of the top stories this hour on "america's election headquarters." welcome to "the journal editorial report." i'm paul gigot. a positive step,s's how donald trump and house speaker paul
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ryan described their meeting on capitol hill thursday. in a joint statement the two said they were totally committed to unifying a divided republican party ahead of the november election, but both men acknowledged that the process could take some time. >> i was encouraged with this meeting but this is a process. it takes a little time. you don't put it together in 45 minutes. >> i don't mind going through a slow process. very big subject. i mean we have a lot of things and i think for the most part we agree on a lot of different items and we're getting there. >> joining the panel this week "wall street journal" columnist dan, james freeman and james toronto. so, james, how much of this sweetness and light is real and how much tension is still existing behind the scenes. >> i think the real tension is the tension between the supporters of these two men, the trump supporters who can't stand washington and the ryan
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supporters who are -- >> scant stand trump. >> think he haven't a real conservative so i think this is a negotiation between the two of them whose ultimate objective is to bring their followers along reluctantly and from that standpoint it's important the negotiation not take place too quickly. imagine if ryan came out last week and said, well, trump is the nominee, i endorse him. he would have been viewed by cheese conservatives as a sellout and his endorsement would be worth a lot less. >> i take your point but there's some philosophical differences here, james. profound between ryan and trump on trade, foreign policy, immigration. we can't -- is that going to emerge later on? >> i would argue that there are not deep philosophical differences because i think what you have with ryan is a philosophical conservative for limited government. i think with trump, you have a non-ideological candidate. so where they do have things in common, they both think
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washington needs to get off the back of business, that means lower taxes, less regulation. obviously they have a lot of differences on trade and immigration. i would hope that this discussion allows ryan to pull a little bit that way but they agree on the fundamental idea which is you've got to get the american economy growing like it used. >> also on political style. >> yeah, ryan is -- has rhetoric inclusive and wants to reach out and expand the party reachout to minorities. trump, what we know is caustic style, his attack style, i mean, you know, we know in private that donald trump can be very charming. we've met with him in private and no doubt he was in that meeting but do you ever think there's going to be a ryan/trump condominium? >> well, one would hope so. i think the short answer of what they said after that meeting is the republican party, a major political party is not unified, all right? >> right. >> i think it goes beyond merely the supporters in the country. paul ryan represents all the
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members of the house that stand for re-election and seven republican senators whose seats are at risk and their position is now either i'm behind trump, i'm against trump or i don't know whether to support him or not. that's a confused republican party running against democrats who are going to be united and energized running against donald trump. so i think the republicans are on their back feet right now because of this disunity. >> kim, what about the point that james taranto that some of his supporters are saying sellout, how dare you, you're damaging your reputation by even associating with donald trump and appearing to say, you know, things are moving forward. >> look, i mean i think this is a very paul ryan thing he has done. you look back over his entire history in the house as speaker, known for bringing along members of his conference to issues that are difficult sometimes for them to get behind. reform minded politician and
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part was probably set up as an opportunity to get to know trump and maybe potential ly first opportunity -- which by the way ran a fairly isolated campaign to say, look, these are our concerns. this is what we're facing as an electoral pressure out there. we need you to be aware and these are some of the issues that our followers have and maybe try to sort of pull him along in an optimistic way. >> and the self-interest of ryan, james, here, political self-interest is what? >> well, he doesn't want to throw the election as some conservative intellectuals would like the republicans to do. he wants the republican party to be unified to win. he's going to do better under president trump even if they don't agree on everything than he would do under president hillary clinton which is another four years of obama. >> and prevent a wipeout. if trump does this poorly as the polls suggest, some polls suggest he might, then you don't want to lose the house because
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it's the only barrier against progressive government like 2009 and 2010. >> i think conservatives can get comfortable thinking about what a ryan/trump partnership would lead to but, hey, this blow-out stuff. trump's sky high negative ratings over the last year. all of a sudden you look at some of these polls. quinnipiac ahead in ohio. >> one poll. yeah, okay. >> but this may be all of a sudden a much closer race than people expected. >> when we come back, bernie sanders promising to fight on to the convention after new polls show trouble for hillary clinton in some key battleground states. will she be saved by the superdelegates? and i'd like to... cut. thank you, we'll call you. evening, film noir, smoke, atmosphere... bob... you're a young farmhand and e*trade is your cow. milk it.
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fresh off a double-digit win in west virginia the sanders campaign said wednesday the democratic party would be courting disaster by nominating hillary clinton. in a fund-raising e-mail campaign manager jeff weaver
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cited what he called a scary new quinnipiac university poll showed clinton virtually tied with or losing to donald trump in florida, pennsylvania and ohio and that same poll shows sanders running stronger against a likely republican nominee. in the e-mail weaver told supporters, because we must do everything we can to defeat trump in november, our mission is to win as many pledge delegates as we can between now and june 14th. then we're going to have a contested convention. so, kim, i think most people agree that barring an act of god or act of fbi director jim comey, hillary clinton will be the nominee but how much trouble can bernie sanders cause her between now and the convention? >> if you look at the number of pledge delegates out there now, there is only a difference of less than 300 between bernie -- between bernie sanders and hillary clinton. and also the momentum has been with sanders. you know, we have a handful of primary contests and caucuses left. if he were to run the table on
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those which by the way is possible that he could, he will have won 19 of the 25 last primaries and caucuses in this race. >> wow. >> so, yeah -- >> exactly. that number is real and he'd have won about 55% of the delegates since super tuesday. so her claim isn't necessarily as strong especially if it's a claim based entirely on superdelegates which is increasingly it is. >> dan, what is this, buyer's remorse among democrats, recognizing she may be a weak candidate? what's going on? >> it's definitely recognizing that she could be a weak candidate. they probably should have seen that from the beginning, but here we are. they thought she was just going to waltz to the nomination. bernie sanders comes in, you know, from left field, literally, and suddenly he's got all the support from young democratic voters. and now they don't know how to deal with these people and now we're going to go to the convention in philadelphia, the sanders people are going to get into a battle with the
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democratic national committee. debbie wasserman schultz is stiffing them and not accepting that and want a role in the platform in philadelphia and want a role in prime spiking engagements and it's all going to be bernie's message which hillary is trying so hard to get away from so she can run to the center and the general. >> james, i know you hang with the sandersistass. what do they want other than the things dan suggested? do they want bernie on the tickety is that a possibility? >> well, i think when you look at it now, i think they still -- i think the dream lives that he will be the nominee. i think that dream is alive in those polls hearten them. i think also if you think about it, if he managed to run the table here and actually came into philadelphia with a delegate lead among the delegates actually chosen by rank and file voters, which could theoretically still happen, you have an implosion in the democratic party because i do not think you can sustain a
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clinton nomination on the idea of pledge or superdelegates, party insiders putting their thumb on this. >> i think you're wrong and i think they can -- democrats will try to do that but here's the question, james. would bernie sanders actually be a better candidate you think against donald trump than hillary clinton? >> it's hard to say. i mean, i still tend to think he's probably too left wing when people really think about it. but he's a much more likable person than mrs. clinton is. >> he's more authentic. >> we talk about what a weak candidate she is. turning out to be. well, you don't need these recent polls to tell you that. she was a weak candidate in 2008 when she was inevitable and lost to barack obama. >> right. >> this year they cleared the field of her. everyone except the fringe nobodies and -- >> became a fringe somebody. >> and one of them became a somebody. sanders is a man who has won ten types statewide running as an avowed socialist. grabtsdzed it's vermont but
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still that's quite an accomplishment. he has something going for him as a politician. >> kim, let's talk about the new story, very good story in "the wall street journal" newsside reported this week about a donation that the clinton global initiative which is a relative of the clinton foundation made to a private forprofit company in which stretches the rules of what nonprofits are supposed to do. tell us about that story. >> well, this is -- it's important to say they arranged it so in this role cgi acted as a matchmaker. they get wealthy people who make commitments to good causes and help place that money but as say in this case they had a wealthy individual step forward with money and funneled that money to a forprofit company that is owned and operated and had shares are held in by a bunch of clinton crony, a neighbor of theirs in chappaqua, people who are high up in democratic politics who had helped out on clinton campaigns and made other donations themselves to the clinton foundation so it's the
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kind of classic clinton sleaze that everyone is used to hearing about and really puts people off and this is certainly not going to help mrs. clinton with all of those favorability and trust -- >> the argument in the clinton foundation is saying this is just standard business. we do this all the time. facilitating donations but it's really -- is that right? >> no, they facilitate donations between philanthropists and do good organizations out there. this is very different. this was facilitating a wealthy individual who would underwrite a company owned by their friends and by the way if they thought there was nothing wrong with it they wouldn't have scrubbed it from their website which, by the way, they did and thought it might leave a bad taste if people saw it. >> when we come back is the battle for campaign cash heats up, donald trump turns to the high dollar donors he once attacked so can he compete with the clinton fund-raising machine. i know how it is. you're all set to book a flight using your airline credit card miles.
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the race to raise campaign cash is heating up and donald trump is now courting the very same high dollar donors he once attacked facing a $1.5 billion campaign against hillary clinton. he said he will not self-finance his general election run and plans are in the works to kick off an aggressive schedule of fund-raising beginning in los angeles at the end of the month so, kim, you wrote a good column, very informative about donald trump's money issues, so is it possible, could it be that this billionaire is actually cash poor for a general election run? >> you have to ask that question. i think there's a good argument that his decision not to release his tax filings, he says they're under audit but they're probably
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other reason, one is they probably contain a lot of very complicated tax maneuvers that might make him look like he's not paying the taxes everybody else does but the other is how liquid wealthy he is. no doubt a lot of his money is tied up in real estate and investments. not something that's easily accessible. he had a lawsuit back in 2006 in which a reporter ended up getting hold of his tax for, made it sound like he isn't as flush as he possibly -- may not have been released under seal but the report irsuggested that one reason he might not want to release those things is because you would know then what his net income was. >> so, sign on former goldman sachs employee steve munchin to raise money but will the fund-raisers come? some are coming around but paul singer said they're not going to give to trump. what do you think his prospects
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are. >> i think they're doubtful at best. ken langone gave an interview saying this was his last round of politics. i'm out of this after this. i've served my time. sheldon wrote a piece for "the washington post" in which he said, i disagree with donald trump on a lot of things but he has business experience and so i'm going to support him. boon pickens is holding a reception for him in texas. this doesn't add up to a lot of enthusiasm but to get people to donate up to a billion dollars you'll require a lot of donor enthusiasm. it's not there yet. >> what does this is a, james, about his decision to go to big dollar donors about his argument that fund-raising is inherently corrupt? apparently not? >> yeah, he's moved on from that. i don't think it's going to hurt him because the comparison is hillary clinton. so i also think he's not going to have the money that she's going to have, but maybe in this unconventional campaign in an
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unconventional year it's not going to matter just like it hasn't mattered to this point and has to do with maybe his ability to make a lot out of earned media or free media. now, i don't think now that he's running against clinton the media is going to be as friendly to him. >> you don't think? >> they're not. but there's a fundamental problem for mrs. clinton even though she's going to have a lot of money. she is not good on tv. >> the media were not terribly friendly to trump during the primary. they just gave him a lot of air time and, you know, i suppose the media could start ignoring trump now and hurt him but i don't see that happening. >> what about the issue of attacks return. we advised him early on, get them out, we said republican voters would want to foe if there's any potential vulnerabilities like kim suggested there could be. now of course, hillary clinton's making an issue of it. mitt romney is making an issue of it and will it hurt him, james? >> i don't know. the question is, do voters care about this? i don't know. it has become a matter of --
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it's become a political norm that presidential candidates show their tax returns and started with the checkers speech where richard nixon called on his running mate to show his tax returns and that became a norm but i think it may be something that people in the media and good government types care about more than -- >> if so why isn't he releasing the returns? so he doesn't pay taxes in. he's in real estate and probably his charitable contributions are minimal. i think james is right. it's not that big a deal. what else might be in them? >> but -- exactly. the reason that he the republicans should care about this and donald trump should care about this, if democrats make this an issue they'll invent things. that's what harry reid said. mitt romney just invents -- >> i don't think it's going to matter one way or the other because it's not 2012. they had spent a year or two defining mitt romney as this evil rich guy, he wouldn't stand up for himself. wouldn't defend his business career, trump's appeal is different. he reaches middle class people.
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he reaches working class people. i don't think they care about this issue and the comparison again to the clintons. >> all right. that's the fallback comparison to the clintons. one more break. when we come back our hits and misses of the week.
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chick-fil-a for graciously opening its new new york location just a block from our office. we appreciate that and also a hit for defying our mayor in new york, bill de blasio who doesn't like the restaurant chain because its owners have political beliefs different from his own. terribly -- dhar >> same-sex marriage. >> that's right but the good news is we've heard new york values knocked a lot this year, but new yorkers know a good chicken sandwich and have been lining up. >> and speaking of which i'm giving a miss to the food and drug administration which decided it will redefine the word healthy. that's right. you may not know it but the food and drug administration has the authority to decide whether you can put the word "healthy" on your food based on things like fat content. under the old definition frosted flakes and pop-tarts qualify as healthy, avocados do not because they have too much fat. i personal ly am going to continue to eat avocados, fat and all. >> remember if you have your own
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hit or miss tweet it to us @jeronfnc. i'm paul gigot. hope to see you right here next week. president obama's demand that transgender students be allowed to use the bathroom of their choosing. a major blowback across the country. texas attorney general ken paxton standing by to tell us why president obama, quote, better prepare for yet another legal fight. plus, the three big remaining presidential candidates prepare for more primaries. will hillary clinton continue her losing streak against bernie sanders or can she turn things around? and if you're planning to fly any time soon, like this summer, be ready for a sea of people ahead of you at security. why the tsa says it's not their fault and you better get used to it.