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now to campaign 2016, bernie sanders campaigns in california and new mexico while democratic front runner hillary clinton hosts fundraisers in d.c. and florida before appearing with the mother of trayvon martin and other parents who lost children to gun violence on the gop side donald trump picked up an endorsement by the nra. what's it mean? we'll break it down in the next hour. authorities say the man shot by secret service while carrying a gun near the white house friday is in critical condition. investigators are looking at why he approached the checkpoint. more on these and other top stories coming up top of the hour. >> i should tell you that there are a lot of people out there, many of the pundits and politicians, they say bernie sanders should drop out.
let me be as clear as i can. i agree with you. we are in until the last ballot is cast. >> welcome to "the journal editorial report. reque bernie sanders vowing to say in until the end. a fox news poll is the latest to show sanders running stronger against donald trump in a general election matchup than hillary clinton. so could he be the better bet for democrats come november? let's ask "wall street journal" columnist and deputy editor, editorial board member and best of the web today columnist. so, james, the democratic establishment including all of the columnist who love his socialist ideas are now turning on bernie sanders. why are they falling out of love? >> well, i think sanders is reminding them of the party's real problem which is mrs.
clinton. they don't really want to think about how difficult it's going to be to run with her as their candidate in the fall and sanders is reminding them of her weakness. she was supposed to have a coronation. he was supposed to be a minor protest candidate. the reason that he's done as well as he has is because of hillary clinton. >> they want him to get out so that right away she can focus on trump. >> right. they don't have to worry about her for at least a couple months. >> what about the argument that sanders people are making that somehow he's being treated unfairly. that he's not getting the love that he deserves because of how well he's done. >> well. people all walk around perceiving a world full of the system is rigged. this is the fuel on which -- >> is it a fair point? >> no, it's not fair. this is an election contest. but this is exactly what
happens. bernie sanders is not terribly different from donald trump in this one regard with his followers that they will question nothing and he will question none of their behavior as you can see. >> he has won three of the last four major states. and the one he lost, kentucky, was very close. is this a case of democrats having some buyers remorse at the end of the campaign about hillary clinton even though she's likely to be the nominee? >> i don't think so. i really don't. this is the standard. people hang onto the bitter end. i don't see a great difference here. the intense dislike of hillary clinton has fed into this story, he's the real victor going to be but obviously she has the nomination as she keeps saying and as she keeps being censored for saying and noticing. >> the polls know that sanders does better against donald trump than hillary clinton does. could he be the better general
election candidate? >> i think he could. those head to heads that have had sanders beating trump by double digits have been there for months, paul. they've always been sitting there without much comment at all. i think that -- i think what it represents is a generic candidate, democratic candidate against trump. hillary is the one that barely beats him. if that candidate were joe biden or john kerry, head to head, they also would be 10% ahead of trump. >> i would suggest that maybe hillary clinton is the only democrat who could lose to donald trump. how does hillary clinton get bernie sanders and especially his supporters onboard? >> that's a very good question. i agree with dorothy that sanders is not being cheated out of the nomination. i think that's a ridiculous claim. however, if his supporters feel that he's being cheated out of the nomination, that's a political problem for the democrats anyway.
our colleague peggy noonan proposes that mrs. clinton should consider making sanders his running mate to keep the party together and bring his supporters onboard. >> 70-year-old ticket to drive the -- >> 144 years between them. i first thought that was a ridiculous idea. reading peggy's column, i kind of felt like the logic was surprisingly compelling. >> i know you don't agree with that. >> wait until the american people get a full steady blast of bernie sanders, a man of the left to put it mildly, for whom the entire american system has been poisoned his entire life and concealing it. this is what is there in bernie sanders. when you listen to him, why are you bothering me about the violence of my followers for a better world? it's 1960s all over. we're bombing campuses. >> you don't think sanders would help hillary clinton? >> i think he would be an endless battle. >> how does she get his
supporters? speaking spot at the convention, you give him a big spot. he's already influenced her agenda in a major way on trade, taxes and health care and many things. how else does she mobilize those voters to keep them so they come out instead of staying home? >> she could go up in front of cameras and say i'm a socialist. really. this is the problem -- >> that's not going to help. >> that's exactly right. that's why these pundits are upset about bernie because he's moved the party so far to the left. he's locking hillary in that will make it impossible to pivot toward the center in the general election. >> very quickly. >> she's moved to the left. one thing he has that she doesn't have even if she declares herself a socialist is sincerity. >> still ahead, hillary clinton promising to bring in bill to shake up the sluggish economy. it's not her husband's democratic party anymore.
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>> my husband, who i'm going to put in charge of revitalizing the economy because he knows how to do it, and especially in places like coal country and inner cities and other parts of our country that have really been left out. >> two for the price of one. that was hillary clinton in kentucky last weekend promising to put her husband in charge of kick-starting the economy. but it's not bill clinton's democratic party anymore. we're back with dan, mary and joe. so, dan, putting dollar bill in charge of the economy. smart move? >> we saw the revision. she says now he's going to be in charge of inner cities and coal country so it's mission impossible for bill. >> what's been happening the
last seven years? >> i think it was an expression of panic on her part. she thought that she needed more than what was working for her. the big thing to look at here is her untrustworthy polling numbers are at 55. they're rising toward 60. so she needed something and she thought she was bringing in the democratic party's most popular democrat but keep in mind, this is a guy they call slick willie. if your untrustworthy numbers are high, how does had thethis ? >> let's go back to the '90s. those were years of good, solid growth. we can do it again. put clintons in charge. >> she's not only saying forget the last seven years, but forget the last five months. she's been really far to the left competing with bernie sanders. banging the drum about inequality saying she's going to soak the rich and now she's looking ahead to the general and
she's thinking, okay, i have to move to the center a little bit and bill clinton because he oversaw a strong economy after the republicans won the house in 1996 -- >> 1994. >> that's a safe cover for her to get to the center. >> the policies are so different from what hillary clinton is proposing now versus what bill clinton pursued in the 1990s. give us some examples. >> the point is that the obama era democratic party has repudiated clinton era economic agenda. if you look at trade, for example, bill clinton finalized nafta. he put china into the world trade organization. now you have hillary running against the pacific trade deal that she helped negotiate as secretary of state. if you look at taxes, bill clinton cut the capital gains
tax rate. hillary clinton is proposing the largest increase in american history. there's really a contradiction there webetween rhetoric and reality. >> wages are low and people are struggling because the rich are too rich. that's her narrative. that's not what bill clinton used to manage the economy in the '90s. >> joe mentioned two most prominent ones. bill clinton talked about reforming them. hillary clinton wants to expand them. bill clinton wanted to have work requirements and welfare to get more people onto the ladder of opportunity. hillary clinton wants to expand all of these mandates and government assistance. she doesn't want to reform welfare. >> she doesn't want to reform welfare and dsn't want to reform the regulatory state. he did that. she wants to expand dodd-frank and extend it to nonbanks. she's another one of these
democra dilemmas where she is trying to signal people in the center that i won't continue policies of the past. >> you would think it's an advantage to donald trump on the economy and some of the polls show that. how does hillary clinton fight back on the economy? go after the rich? >> that's what she thinks will work. i don't think that's necessarily a bad strategy just because there's a wave of populism here, right, that we believe that marginal tax rates matter. if you tax the rich, they don't do as much as they normally would to stimulate the economy. i think she's counting on the idea that there's this populist wave and that she's going to tell these people who have had very depressed wages during the obama years that she's going to make them better off this way. >> is the economy an advantage for trump as an issue? >> it should be an advantage. will he have the wit to point out contradictions we've been talking about? he's not a policy guy.
it's incumbent on him to learn his briefing book and be able to point out some of these differences between what she's saying and what she'll do as president. >> chances of that happening, joe? >> who knows. >> when we come back, a big week for supreme court watchers with a narrow win for the little sisters of the poor over obamacare's birth control mandate and a list of potential nominees from donald trump. you wouldn't order szechuan without checking the spice level. it really opens the passages. waiter. water. so why would you invest without checking brokercheck? check your broker with brokercheck. i'm terhe is.at golf. but i'd like to keep being terrible at golf for as long as i can. new patented ensure enlive has hmb plus 20 grams of protein to help rebuild muscle. for the strength and energy to do what you love. new ensure enlive. always be you. every ingredient is the main ingredient. the new green goddess cobb with avocado, bacon, freshly made dressing, tomato...
the supreme court once again taking center stage in the 2016 campaign as likely republican nominee donald trump releases a list of 11 potential nominees and the remaining eight justices issue a decision in one of the most closely watched cases of the term. we're back with dan, james and joe. so joe, the little sisters of
the poor case, religious liberty case, lot of people are saying this is a victory actually for the little sisters. you agree? >> i do. i don't think it's a narrow victory. i think it's a pretty broad victory decided on narrow grounds. what they were saying was we want some kind of accommodation that actually accommodates our religious beliefs. >> so we don't have to follow the mandate on' contraception and abortion as part of obamacare. >> that's right. after oral arguments, the supreme court said go back, is there a way to accommodate them and still achieve all the goals of this mandate and the obama administration admitted yes, there was. so what the court said was all right, go back, figure out some kind of compromise that respects the tradition of religious pluralism in america and we will see if it happens. >> they vacated the lower court judgments against the little sisters of the poor and said you cannot in this decision punish
the little sisters in the interim while this is being negotiated but the lower courts could come back if the obama administration does not agree to the accommodation that joe suggests and rule against them and go against them again. >> well, the big question is who replaces justice scalia. if it's a democratic appointee, either garland or an appointee of mrs. clinton, then the case probably eventually works its way up and a majority of the court says the government can force the little sisters of the poor to violate their religion conscience. >> what chance do you think the administration will actually accommodate the little sisters? >> there's a modest chance they might do so. this is really about militant cultural liberalism. it's about coercion, forcing private institutions to accommodate the state basically. so they have been given a chance for a do-over. we'll see if they take the invitation. >> what do you think of the court, how it's doing generally in the 4-4 split?
>> it's very interesting the way it's been handling it. the way they handled the little sisters case, basically ordering the parties of the case to work it out themselves is something i haven't seen them do before. there have been a couple cases where they issued one sentence orders saying the decision of the lower court is upheld by a divided court. that means they make no new law and the appeals court makes the decision. another thing i think we might see them do is issue very narrow unanimous decisions that just restate current law. >> let's turn to donald trump's nominees. 11 names out there. what do you think of them and was this a smart move? >> it was a smart move. most people think they by and large are impressive conservative jurists. there's not too much dissent from that. the question is whether he would follow through on it. he has a credibility problem. i think it would be very difficult for him as president to flip and just appoint a crony
because he's doing this to get the support of the conservative movement. we are talking about a lot of voters. if trump were president and went back on this, his approval rating would drop to 40% within a month of his presidency. >> nobody would want to do that. we still have a campaign. the reason most nominees don't float these names beforehand is they can become targets. you are already seeing the left say this decision on abortion, this decision on religious liberty, this decision on contraception, and targeting those -- >> all reasons conservatives would support these people. the left is making the case for us. >> the advantage is to trump to say see, they are attacking my nominees, conservatives come on board. is that -- >> that's exactly right. the liberals are helping trump solidify the conservative base which is a problem for him because they don't trust him. >> you like the idea as well that he floated these names? what do you think of them? >> well, i had not heard of most of the names and i follow this stuff very closely. but i will give you an example.
i got an e-mail yesterday from a reader from colorado who has been very skeptical of trump. he said if there's any chance that allison eid ends up on the supreme court -- she's a justice on the colorado supreme court. here's a conservative in a swing state who is warming to trump as a result of it. >> there are a couple names that were left off. i would like to have seen them on. brent cavanaugh, jeff sutton, they are both very high-powered intellects of the kind the court lost, conservative intellects with justice scalia. that's too bad. you like the list? >> luckily, trump says he may expand it if he needs to. i think this was kind of born of necessity. supreme court politics are so intense, trump needed to convince republicans that he would fight on behalf of principles that he's shown he maybe doesn't care all that much about. >> do you agree this boxes him in somewhat? he would pay a political price if he went off this list?
>> if he tries to appoint his butler or a relative or whatever, i think this makes it much harder. he will face a lot more resistance. >> thank you all. we have to take one more break. when we come back, hits and misses of the week. you do all this research on a perfect car, then smash it into a tree. your insurance company raises your rates... maybe you should've done more research on them. for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise your rates due to your first accident. liberty mutual insurance. does your mouth often feel dry? multiple medications, a dry mouth can be a side effect of many medications. but it can also lead to tooth decay and bad breath. that's why there's biotene, available as an oral rinse, toothpaste, spray or gel. biotene can provide soothing relief and it helps keep your mouth healthy too. remember, while your medication is doing you good, a dry mouth isn't. biotene, for people who suffer from a dry mouth.
time now for our hits and misses of the week. >> this is a miss for the obama administration which this week demonstrated its incurable ignorance about economics with a new wage regulation that doubles the salary level below which employees have to be paid overtime after 40 hours of work. this demonstrates that president obama thinks the only thing necessary to raise wages is that he simply wave his arm and mandate it. i'm predicting that companies will in fact make other adjustments so that their compensation costs don't go up. >> a fair bet. dorothy?
>> this is a hit to hbo's magnificent production of "all the way" about lbj's successful passage of the 1964 civil rights bill in a time of enormous rancor between left and right, conservative and democrat, yet they crossed the aisle, left and right, and produced this move for justice. it would be nice to think that our political parties could one day have that character. >> all right. dan? >> a future miss to google which held a big presentation on artificial intelligence products this week, products that do your thinking for you. one of the examples cited was so if someone sends a photo of a grandchild to a grandparent, your cell phon will automatically reply man, she's really cute. you don't have to do anything. >> you like that? >> i like that. some day i will be able to go what should i think of donald trump's supreme court nominees. they're all beautiful. >> remember, if you have your own hit or miss, tweet it to us. that's it for this week's show. thanks to my panel.
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