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supreme court. tom brady and the u.s. supreme court. the supreme court has a few things on its docket, right? time for "deflategate"? hmm. here's neil. >> i agree with harris. that's nuts. here's your monday, "your world" quick quiz. what is the difference between a disney park visitor and a u.s. veteran? time is up. nothing at all. at least according to secretary robert mcdonald. listen. >> what really counts is how does the veteran feel about their encounter with the va? when you go to disney, do they measure the number of hours you wait in line or the number -- what is important? what is important is what your satisfaction with the experience. >> can you believe that? that there is no difference between waiting on a line at disney and waiting on a line for
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services at the va. last time i checked, you don't die waiting on a lie at disney. you do die waiting for care, and people who go to a park on a lark are very different than people who put it on the line for this country so the folks like you and me can go to a park on a lark. wow. i've covered washington and bureaucrats for decade now and heard some doozies but this is at the top of the doozie list. and as a quick p.s., secretary, the disney folks do closely monitor those who wait on line. that's why they keep them curving and winding and have monitors to pass the time, because they know that people,-do well, if they wait on line long enough will start killing each other. that's neither her nor there think of what he secretary is saying erick acquitting park visitors with our veterans. how mickey mouse is that?
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to sarah westley of the washington examiner. you were at this first meeting, and the first to report on that comment. i don't know if it's just callous or stupid, maybe both. tell me about it. >> secretary mcdonald was responding to a question about why the va won't publish the amount of time the veteran has to wait before the calls the va and tries to skid all an appointment. the va doesn't measure wait times based on how long it takes from the day a veteran calls the va and says i need to see a doctor. they use a preferred date and that's ripe for manipulation. it onshire actual amount of time that veterans are waiting to see a doctor. so while secretary mcdonald said during this meeting that the average wait time for a veteran is five days, it's not necessarily true when you publish the actual length of the wait time the way most normal people would define it. and so he avoided that question by equating veteran wait times to wait times at disneyland was
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a poor choice of words. >> possibly. you would also say -- he was try trying to intimate you wait on a long line to get to space mountain, but it's well worth the experience. don't know about that. but that's all part of the experience, and the experience trumps the wait. leaving aside those who don't get sick or, god forbid, die in that wait, for va care, it is debatable to say that the ends justifies the long line means. right? >> exactly. we're talking about medical care here, when times is a major factor in the effectiveness of the care. so it is really impossible to lake how much a delay in health care could affect a veteran's condition but you can argue that's a major problem for a lot of veterans who are waiting for care. this is something the va has struggled with for years now. accountability is a big problem with this there was a wait time
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scandal that came out a few years ago that had 110 va facilities reason then country. the va officials were creating fake patient waiting lists to cover up long delays in care, and even though that was discovered as a nationwide scheme by the va inspector general, only three officials have been removed for that so far. so there's no culture of accountability at the va and that's where you see them shrugging awful the calls to release the real wait times the veterans are facing because they don't seal the val knew transparency that way. >> they equate them with visitors at a park. i could go on and on. great reporting. thank you very much. can you imagine being a veteran and hearing that news i just been equated with those waiting on a line for a dumbo ride. who is really goofy here? va whistleblower scott davis. this is ten times more insulting than the egregious things you brought to light years ago and
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it goes on. comp on. what do you think of this? >> it's ridiculous, neil, that the secretary would make that comment, but you know what? we need to take a look at the president. this has been going on for two years. and what type of response have we gotten from the white house? i've sent them e-mails. you have done news reports, other people have done news reports. secretary mcdonald's comments although unfortunate is really apparently the sentiments of this administration. that the complaints, the issues raised about va are just not that significant. >> well issue think what he was also saying -- you're closer to this than i'll ever be -- don't make a big deal of the waits because the care they get in the end more than justifies the waits. again, acane to someone waiting for a ride at space mountain and enjoying the experience and forgetting the long wait before the experience. crazy comparison to me, but that assumes that the wait was worth
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it for those va patients and seems like in many case it's not. >> in many cases it's not. let's take him at his position. yes, there are some good things that happen at va. yes, there are people enjoy their care at va. let's take into consideration the north carolina bathroom situation. if the attorney general, loretta lynch, said instead of dressing this issue through how to courts, doesn't make a difference because people can use the bathroom anyway. it's not like people can't go to a bathroom. all hell would heave broken loose. look at the response here. the head of the nation's largest healthcare organization is comparing wait times, not just for a doctor, but for oncologists, for addressing diabetes, and other chronic diseases, as waiting for a ride, space mountain, at disney world. >> biffle the way, want to see -- anyone wait at a ride at disney for months.
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for months. not just hours. and then see how you feel about that. but beyond that, it seems like what got this going were the waits themselves. now we have dismissed the reason why we had the turnover we did at the top and brought in the secretary the way we did, to address the waiting time, and now that is no longer the issue. that was the issue. the long waiting time, the vets who were dying, or those who were forth governmenten, or those who were -- forgotten or shoved in a hallway and ignored by everyone they passed. is this behavior across all va hospitals? no. but the reason we got to this investigation and it became the crisis and scandal it did was the waiting time of our men and women who served us. >> exactly. >> that would be akin to saying, they're going to wait to jump out of a foxhole to save our sorry butts, including the people who are ignoring them now. they didn't wait. they didn't look at their watch and say, i'll get out when i feel
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like it. and now we justify the same rude dismissive behavior to them in return. it is outlandish. >> it is, neil. let's talk about this for a second. we have heard a lot over the past six months about the quote-unquote washington elites not being able to relate to regular, everyday americans. the majority of people who are waiting for care, the majority of people on that list of veterans dying waiting for care, are regular, working class, poor white people, working class, and poor minorities, and to a lot of the elite, who make the decisions for this country, for this administration, those people, those demographics simply do not matter and it's important for all people, whether you're democrat or republican, to be appalled by what the secretary said. think it's important that speaker ryan address this issue today, and i hope he will take this fight directly to the president and say to president
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obama, what happened today is unacceptable. but more importantly, these wait times are unacceptable, and if we can address all the other issues that the administration has found time to address, i think it is reasonable to ask our commander-in-chief to put a stop to this foolishness at va. >> well put, scott. thank you very much. one final notice before the next story. they didn't wait around for us. they didn't justify just sitting on their derriere to justify an action. they didn't wait around also normandy or key battles. they didn't wait around in fallujah. they didn't do that sort offing? they're brothers and sisters are due better from us eye. knock not a veteran. i'm a son of a veteran and have a family of veterans and they made it possible for me not to have to be a veteran. they're due better than this, my friends, whether you have served or not, that is not service. that is ridiculous.
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man, i'm sorry. that got my goat. to compare that to a disney ride. holy toledo. other news today. got that off any chest, this one concerns to companies trying to come together in the weird of sales, bayer wants to combine with monsanto, but look at this reaction. mon santa to was jumping today -- monsanto was jumping but not for the praise bayer -- price bayer wafflings offering. many the market says this isn't happening or it's a politically incorrect feel. tomatoes the size of jupiter. whatever. charles payne took note. that do you make of this? >> you're right. a combination of both. genetically modified foods were rejected in europe even before the seeds were planted. it was a public relations disaster. no one there wanted it. everyone was taken aback by
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these foods, and so for bayer they see on opportunity for these to take over monsanto and ultimately introduce this food not only to europe but the world. food is an amazing thing. food security is an amazing thing, and the fact of the matter is we just had a report, three academic caveds old report from the national academy of sciences, foods generated from gmo crops have shown no adverse effect to human beings. >> genetically modified. >> right. >> there are others who do this sort of thing but i'm wondering if we step back from this, whether it's politically correct or not, people called it franken-food but i wonder what it says bottom the appetite for big deals and doing them because this is the same day we had tribune finally dismissing an offer and that was an eye-popping deal. think to myself the deals are certainly still there and i imagine that the positive for
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the markets. today's kind of soft response not withstanding and the political fallout could help, let's say, the democratic candidate. >> it could. there or two reasons you do major deals right now. one is when stocks have come down a lot and you have a chance to scoop up a cheap competitor, bayer and monsanto, and then the deals rejected by the obama administration, boehner -- baker hughes, and staples and office depot. they didn't pose any threats. the administration rejected them because they thought they would be to big. but bayer said the stock isocheim. they offers $122 a share. bump it up to 150 the deal is done tomorrow. >> might be. charles payne, thank you very much. onemer veteran note and then i'll be done with this as i seek responses from the va. they
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wouldn't come on the show or talk to them. think of the glue storms normandy. they knew they were going to die. all of those guys died. imagine if they were just thinking about in the boat, oh, i'll be in there in minute. imagine if they've waited. would we even have disney today? i don't know. more after this. you do all this research on a perfect car, then smash it into a tree. your insurance company raises your rates... maybe you should've done more research on them. for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise your rates due to your first accident. liberty mutual insurance. twell what if i told you that peanuts can work for you? that's right. i'm talking full time delivery of 7 grams of protein and 6 essential nutrients. ever see a peanut take a day off? i don't think so. harness the hardworking power of the peanut. people are taking charge of their type 2 diabetes with non-insulin victoza®. for a while, i took a pill to lower my blood sugar.
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and republicans who have reached out to him asking questions about trump's foreign policy. he says decide spice trump's calls to temporarily ban muslims from entering the u.s., they want to know what trump would do with, say, iraq, yemen, iran, syria, just to give you a couple examplees. dr. ferris says those not enhappy with the middle eastern policy are trying to make the argument they would be natural supporters of a trump presidency if trump can answer the middle east questions. give you another question here quick. there's charlie sykes, the prominent talk to video host who backed ted cruz. sykes tweeted out this hand-written note on a newspaper that trump recently sent him. it points to an article about republicans moving trump's way and trump wrote he hopes sykes could do the same as well. trump writing, quoting here, i will win. he wrote that in all caps. however, sykes has not budget one iota. he wrote on his web site of that
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offering, and i'm quoting, despite the fact that trump has publicly called me a low-life and a dummy, i do appreciate the outreach but still, hash tag, never trump. just a couple of examples five. more months to go, two different stories. >> feel the love. even lindsey graham is telling a lot of donors to privately get behind trump, even if he isn't as enthusiastically backing trump. miracles can happen. a former ronald reagan campaign manager, ed rollins. what do you make of this. >> most people realize trump is the nominee and will be a strong candidate, leading in the last couple of polls. this will be a very competitive race and nobody anticipated that and he could be the president of the united states and the republicans need to get on board and make them the president of the united states. >> when what changed the sentiment was the fact he was
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holding very well in these polls. in fact the momentum has gone on his side. his negatives down, hillary clinton up a lot. and all of a sudden people started saying, he can go all the way. that does have a way of turning mines. >> the key -- the contrast here is dramatic. mrs. clinton is a substantive person but a policy wonk. she is not a real leader. he is a decisive leader and that's a difference empeople want a change in washington. don't want more of the same. another four years of obama type administration and to a certain extent trump promises something different. no one is quite sure what it's going to be but it's going to be different and he basically is going to tackle the problems the way hey has tackled problems in new york and the country. >> how many rezestors will be and whether they're turned on a trump personal note or personal phone call, as he had with lindsey graham. how many will turn and how many will not turn for love or money.
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imagine the bush family says out. mitt romney stays out. but -- >> the segment, do not vote for their party anymore, is very small. used to be anywhere from a third democrats who didn't vote for richard nix -- who voted for richmond nixon, 25% voted toed reagan. now it's down to five, ten percent who don't support either party's nominee mitchell sense is that both parties are getting there. that makes the independent vote very important. trump is notify leading among independents. by the end of the day, trump will do as well as any modern republican in holding his base and basically getting that majority of independents which makes the difference. >> real quickly, we talk about how tight the vote and is the sentiment is when expressed in sheer numbers of voters. separated bay couple of points but you're a great veteran of campaigns and you know a lot of tight races were actually not so tight. john kennedy -- close in the
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popular vote in the electoral vote which matters most, how do you think it stands? >> we begin with a big disadvantage. the democrat has an advantage and has shown that in the past, as we had an advantage in the '80s. races that romney won and you win ohio, florida, pennsylvania, that's not even but that gives you the presidency. there's really eight or ten states that matter. the other 40 vote the same way every cycle and i think you got to focus on those states, particularly those three right there, two of whom we can't win without ohio and florida. obviously that's where ore focus has to be. >> pennsylvania was the other one writ cass close. thank you, my friend. >> my pleasure. >> bernie sanders is in los angeles right now, obviously putting a lot on the big california primary on june 7th but he has already come out against debbie wasserman schultz, the dnc chair, she is
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all it takes are kind words from bernie sanders saying that, well, you're his guy, because he really doesn't flip over the person you're challenging, debbie wasserman schultz and if you are that challenger to debby wasserman shut, you're on fire. that challenger is tim canova, runs again her in a democratic district. sir, very good to have you. >> thank you, neil.
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>> we should say at the outset we did reach out to debbie wasserman schultz and thanked us for the invitation and her schedule would not allow her to come on today. effectively bernie sanders says he is not a fan of hers and hasn't been fair and she is not progressive enough. you are. so he is endorsing you. your phones began ringing off the hook. so did your fundraising. what happened? >> that's right. we're very grateful to have senator sanders' report and giving a good shot of energy into our campaign. hour campaign was already doing well. in the first quarter we raised half million dollars and the first four months a mime dollars, -- a million dollars ad for that's a pretty start. most folks know debbie wasserman schultz as the head of the democratic national committee, a lot of people see her as a failed leader of the dnc. near south florida folks know her has somebody who has been
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favoring special interests and ignoring her own constituents. >> they elected her seven times, right? >> without ever having a primary challengery a very safely democratic direct. that doesn't reflect her popularity as much as very limited choices for voters. >> what i mean is she was so awful, though, at least in one of those elections, they would throw her keyeser out. >> excuse me? they would have what? >> on the her out. >> well, let me tell you. it takes an awful lot of chutzpa to rub against her and i didn't see anybody else stepping up. >> you are and you fashion yourselves arizona progressive, more in the bernie sanders mold than she. explain the difference. >> yeah. sure. i'd say its more in the franklin roosevelt progressive tradition of the democratic party. that includes bernie sanders and includes elizabeth warren and probably the greatest part of the grassroots base of the democratic party. and a progressive in the
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franklin roosevelt tradition was progress for all the idea of universal rights and duties and obligations as citizens. so it wasn't enough to just try to have a trickle down approach to economic development and job creation but to have bottom-up approach where everybody has a seat at the table and there's jobs for everyone. a full employment economy, which is what we should be shooting for. >> so, the fact that she is going to have i think joe biden come out and do some campaigning for her 0, at least an appearance on her behalf, are you worried or panicked in. >> well, i think that the sign of her worry. i think she is very concerned about her re-election and should be. on issue after issue she has been out of step with her own con city tunes and on -- can be constitute opportunities and an issues, whether it's bayday lend organize wall street regulation or foreign policy and support for israel she is not seen as
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reliable. >> but let's say you're right on that. many would disagree. but it does carry considerable heft and influence to be the chairman of the democratic national committee. that's great cache to bring back to your district. and let's say you succeeded in toppling her, not out of the question. you're just a lowly professor who makes good on an uphill campaign, you get in there, but there goes all that juice that she has, all that cache she has for your district. how would you explain that? >> neil, i'd like know how she has been using that sash shay for this district. there are couple projects that might be visible that she has helped bring to this area, but by and large this district is one that is not doing that well. the unemployment rate is over 11% now in broward county, and i know from teaching at a
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university level for years now how this generation is doing and it's not doing well. see students graduating deeply in debt, paying interest rates between six, seven, ten, 12 percent on school loans -- >> for the government picking up that tab. >> i'm for, like i said, the kinds of programs where everybody can benefit but everybody is expected to work and pay their taxes into the system. >> all right. everybody, everybody so you wouldn't -- up like bernie sanders, who wants to have the rich pay more, a lot more in some cases, to fund these initiatives you would tax everybody? you think everybody should pay something in federal income tax? >> well, i'd say the wealthy are not paying their fair share of the burden. >> what do you think their fair share should be? >> before i answer that, let me say this. we have an aging infrastructure. why is the united states one of the only advanced countries of the world that doesn't have a federal infrastructure bank. china has one, germany, japan -- >> i understand these are all
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meritorious. where would you get the money and how high would you raise taxes if you made -- >> a federal infrastructure bank, if if may finish, is a way to increase economic development without raising taxes, and that's what built this country. the reconstruction -- >> hugh would that be funded? >> it's essentially a revolving fund. and this is how it worked from then 1930s through the 1950s. >> hugh would -- how would you start the funding. >> support from the federal reserve, which the federal reserve did for main street interests during the 1930s and 1940s, neil. >> all right. but you have an uphill fight here. it's been done before. do you think if -- if you lost would you still support the congresswoman? >> well, you're asking me a hypothetical situation. you can ask her if she will support me if i defeat her august 30th. >> touché. >> i'm planning on winning august 30th. >> we'll see. thank you very much.
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flight 804. greg palkot in paris, connecting dots or trying to. >> reporter: we first told you viewers friday about the data messages that detail the last couple of minutes of the flight of egyptair flight 804, and as the search heats up for debris, both from the plane and passengers and passengers' remains so does the search for the answer. let's remind your viewers. the data shows smoke, probably fire in the cockpit, spreading to the front bathroom and then the electriconnicking, knocking out out in four minutes, today analysts say that seems too fast for a fire started by a normal technical flaw. too slow for a big terror bomb. so what they're telling me is that either it was a more complex, faster acting electrical technical problem or a simpler terror device. i think you viewers remember rich reid and the shoe bomb in 2001 could have been something
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like that or a device on the plane. so a lot of attention today being placed on looking at this airport, charles degaulle, and about four other airports where the plane stopped at in the 48 hours prior to the crash, thinking that perhaps a device was planted. people have been interrogated here. videos have been screened as well as passenger manifests looked over. still, no answers, but certainly a lot of questions. back to you. >> thank you very much, greg. in the meantime, concerns about this flight that made multiple stops around dangerous neck of the woods and a lot of concern about something liking this that might have happened. a handoff -- remember this somalia jet crash explosion where window was blown out and one person was blown out of the plane. thought to be the perpetrator of the bomb on the plane itself with don't know. this much we do. that we have to look into who services these planes and
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sometimes it's multiple people and multiple cities. former cia directyear sames woolsey, too early to say but what do you think of that? i the somalia jet case in february of this year where there was handoff of something that seemed to indicate that once behind the lines, you could get almost anything on an aircraft. >> i think the basic point is right. it is harder if the plane there is for just a brief period of time, but if you can have a maintenance worker or some kind of worker who is in the hangar at night, available, then you can put a bomb, coca-cola sized bottle bomb, into an aircraft and if you put it the right place, it can do the job. i think we're probably spending too much effort focusing on exactly what happened in this particular explosion, and not enough figuring out how to
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fundamentally improve the structure of those who do the work at our airports, so that we pick up before hand the ones who are likely to be a problem. >> dirk, i'm wondering, there's a certain arrogance that a lot of americans -- i say this in a good way -- where we think, well, we don't have any of those egyptairs or these somalia jet issues. we have great carriers that would never have these type of compromised security issues, but it's their planes frequenting the mediterranean or stopping at the same airports the same potential service issues in play regardless of the painting outside the plane? >> sure. the painting outside the plane is least important feature. it's the verification procedures for worker, whether you're at french airport or an american one. has the worker, who is going to be alone with the aircraft,
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doing his job, and able to do something like put a bomb in it, has he been thoroughly vetted, and vetting is really hard for people from this part of the world, forged passports, may cost $100. so, we got war with syria and iraq and soing for in that part of the world, and people wanting to get out. we want to be hospitable to them as americans are but we also have to be very careful at who we let in and who we let work in areas like around an aircraft where they can plant something. >> well put. director woolsey, good seeing you again. >> good to see you. >> sometime next month the zika virus to hit the united states. tell that to 300 pregnant women who are already bearing the virus itch guess they're talking something much bigger, much broader and much more than just pregnant women. after this.
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don't have to wait much longer because the zika virus could be here. dr. kelly powers, a noted physician and surgeon. what are we in for? >> great to be here and see you. so the new update is that there is a knew mosquito that has been identified. what we know, we have the -- amake that has been endemic at the subtropic and tropic regions, brazil, florida, the caribbean. the mosquito in the northern cities, like san francisco, new york, boston, chicago, is called the asia tiger mosquito, now, according to a new study, and new research, this mosquito endemic to us here has shown positive for the zika virus and this is causing a huge scare as it should. >> who is in danger with there is? there's no cure for this but who is vulnerable, how bad does it
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get? >> i think the scariest thing about the zika virus us so much is unknown. we're kind of for lack of a better description, setting ducks. of course pregnant women, the number one threat. the threat of having microreceively so the virus spreads through the placenta and could attack the nerves and brain. that's they number one threat. but all of us are sunday sippable. sometimes including flu-like symptoms, acued onset fever, rash on the and is and knows, -- the condition lasts to or three weeks. the other big unknown there's disagreement in the scientific commute how long this virus stays in the system. so does it leave after the duration of the virus symptoms or stay in the body for a year or couple years? there's quite the debate about
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that right now. >> these women, nearly 300 of them who are carrying the virus, what percentage of them do you think could have their baby compromised and is there a test or anything that would ease their mind? >> it's tough. there isn't -- according to recent article from the "new york times" there isn't a widespread test. when you have someone who is high -- showing signs and systems, there's a test and there's molecular studies as well. so blood sample, tissue same -- sample and costs money as well these people should contact their physicians and get tested. >> doctor, well put. win through quite a few options. thank you very much. you think he's angry bernie supporters are fired up? you haven't seen anything yet. why would could go down at the
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democratic national convention this summer could make this look like small change.
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show me "previously watched." what's recommended for me. x1 makes it easy to find what you love. call or go online and switch to x1. only with xfinity. all right, so exactly what do they mean by protest? we don't know. bernie supporters are planning that for d.c. the senior video reporter has more. what are they talking about? >> i just got off the phone for the organizer for occupy dc. they want to go and support for bernie and also the ultimate goal for them is sanders can catch up with
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clinton in the pledged delegates if they want to persuade superdelegates. they know it's a long shot. they have their work cut out for them. they want to be there, they want to make sure their voices are truly heard in philadelphia, regardless of who is the nominee. >> when they talk protest on the floor of the convention, outside, inside? >> most are outside. they are for public parks, near the wells fargo center. there are marches being planned. there are a lot of groups working on different activities. it's difficult to say how many people will be there, how many sorts of protests we could see. we know that police and other groups are working to get organized as well so they can diffuse any intense situation. >> in light of this, is it mitigated or keep the calm? do we know? >> it's an interesting question. a lot of people are looking at
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the clinton campaign to see how she plans on bringing these people on board. she doesn't have a lot of time. she needs sanders supporters behind her. they will not fall in line. it's interesting to watch, the more that clinton and the democratic national committee try to get sanders supporters on board to unify the party, the more it fans the flames and enrages sanders supporter who is feel the system has been rigged against them and they have gotten the short end of the stick. at anytime clinton says what she did this weekend, declaring herself the nominee, they get encouraged to go protest and fight for the primary. >> it galvanizes them all over. >> it will be interesting to see how clinton brings them together. debbie wasserman schwartz is
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ticking them off. >> they can keep the calm. in the meantime, to the other side, why republican donors are not jazzed about supporting donald trump. those who are, they don't know who to write a check to. ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪ ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪ ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪
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get a philips lifeline today. all right. donald trump getting donors, he's got a few. the ones he has don't know how to write out a check and to whom. we are more on that. charlie, what's going on? >> you have to put this in context a bit. donald self-funded his nomination, basically, lending himself, his campaign $43 million. he shoed any relationships with superpacs, which do a lot these days. then he turned around, did a 180 a couple weeks ago. as we were reporting, he said i
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need you fat cats, i need you superpacs. here is the problem he's having. a fund-raiser for him in mid june. told us at fox news, he's postponing that for a while, for lodgist cal reasons. people don't know what superpacs to give to. they don't know which are the preferred vehicles. they don't know which are run by the right people that run these things. >> they have the money, but they don't know who to give it to? >> some people are willing to give. they don't know where to give that money. >> does that apply to the casino moguls? >> yes, it will apply to him as well and a lot of other people. that's the one problem he has with the fund raising. the other problem i think he has is he's beat up on this notion of raising money and attacking
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so many potential donors during the campaign saying they are part of the washington establishment and buy and sell candidates. a lot of them are on the fence. paul singer, on the fence. the rickets family who recollects he attacked, on the fence. the poll is showing neck in neck with hillary. obviously, he could win this thing. >> improving poll numbers and the fact he could take out hillary clinton might void his chances. >> it might but it hasn't yet. here is what a lot of people are saying, he's bragged about being worth $10 million. pull a couple hundred million out of your pocket if that's the case. that's what i'm hearing. >> he pointed out, he's very goods with his money, if he doesn't have to spend it, he won't. he's done well not having to do it. you say it's very different. he said this is very different
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in a general election campaign. >> you need to get out the vote. you are running against two, not 17. as brilliant as donald is with free media, this is einstein when it comes to generating money and understanding the news cycle. you have to spend money. haircut it. say he doesn't have to raise 1.5 to $2 billion, which is what hillary clinton is doing. say he thooz do half of that, raising a billion in this short of time, with no infrastructure is difficult. it's proven to be difficult. boone pickens should be planning this fund-raiser. he needs this money now, not later. the fact he's not raising it now, you have to ask yourself, what is going on here? this infrastructure should be set. i talked with boone a couple weeks ago and asked him. he said when everything gets set up, he thinks the money is going to flow. there it is.
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>> charlie on fund raising issues. a billionaire who might not have enough money in his own wallet for the race. the question is, who does. pony up, like now. hello, i'm kimberly gull file with dana perino. this is "the five." a first in the 2016 presidential race. donald trump has overtaken hillary clinton in an average national poll. real clear politics shows him ahead of clinton with 43.4% and she's ott 43.2. they heavily favored clinton. her lead slipping since trump became the nominee. she says pay no attention to the polls. >> polls this far out mean nothing. they

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