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gone. like any item we're abreast of it. see you tomorrow. i'm greg gutfeld with kimberly guilfoyle, ebony williams and eric bolling and dana perino. on the fief. so here's what we learned from the loserpalooza in albuquerque last night. no protester could explain why they were there. beyond employing a combination of f-words and gesturing fingers. not a complete sentence among the cretins. oddly their printed signsy articulate, but they weren't. that's what we call a clue. someone sponsored this action. they also look out of shape, clearly not living in a competitive environment, unless it's a contest in grievances, i wonder if they get paid for that
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by the hour. who does it help, really? does it rhyme with trump? maybe he's paying them. hmm. but it's a reminder while candidates talk about the housing bubble, it's the identity bubble that the left created and inflated and is about to burst. the restraint of the police reflects present-day reality, hampered by negative media scrutiny. called the ferguson effect, it recasts their job, protecting society as evidence of bigotry. i can't say i blame them for holding back. speaking of the media. if we aren't careful, we may incentivize more thuggery, through the use of our roving glass. that's the media's job, you can't tell them not to cover a riot. remember as you do your job, don't jump on the cops for doing theirs, especially when it gets ugly and you know it will. so eric, this had to be planned. the fact that none of them could articulate what they were there for, but all the signs were very
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professionally done. >> we've seen it time and again. there were a couple of george soros-funded websites that were promoting some of these protests. i'm not saying this one was the same. but clearly the signs were premade. that's why when we asked jonathan hunt, it looks spontaneous. no it looks like planning going on here. you talk about the ferguson effect, cops have to hold back doing their jobs because they may be accused of being too harsh or bigoted. who are you bigoted against? trump detractors now? my question would be nye wie not go hard on these kind of guys. i understand why you want to play it a little safe when race is the issue. but fair enough, the one issue they had was immigration, it was latinos mostly primarily latinos. i don't know that they're actually fighting a, a race issue more along fighting a guy they don't like donald trump's
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idea what he thinks immigration policy should be. i guess you're right. i'll take that, kimberly. >> i don't think so. i don't recognize any of these people from latino issue forums, you know? they just sprung up out of nowhere. i don't know how politically active and involved. i'm sure there's people there that in fact belong to causes that are very dedicated to the latino community. that's good. but when you cross the line and engage in lawlessness and you're throwing things of fire at horses and throwing rocks at police and throwing rocks and reporters, that's not something that should be condoned or sanctioned. it doesn't matter what color your skin is, what race you claim what group you belong in. that is lawlessness. that's where you got to say enough is enough. >> ebony, i'm wondering if you remove everyone there who is holding an iphone and camera, there might be three actual activists. do you think this is a big sham, people running around with
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cameras hoping to ask something and basically it's kind of this self-indulgent exercise? >> i agree, greg. think the platform incentivizes a lot of people. they want to be seen. when you can them why they're there, they can't answer. they just want to be seen on a broadcast. on a deeper level there are two types of group present around it an organized group was there with a political message tore pro immigration rights and then just thugs, taking advantage. and the people that were organizing, people put their bodies in between the law enforcement officers and these complete lawless crazy banshes. >> did you talk to jonathan hunt? how is he doing? >> i wanted to thank him for sticking it with us for the hour we did a special at midnight. it was helpful to us, we had somebody on the ground. think we have video there. he got pelted in the back right there by a rock.
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here's the thing about the protesters, it seems like they're very young. the idea of protesting is very romantic to them. i can't imagine ever throwing something at another person, let alone a police officer. and if humans aren't your thing -- throwing it at a horse? at some point that will turn on you. donald trump tweeted this morning, something that i think he could have taken it, a different tack. but this is what he said. the protesters in new mexico were thugs flying the new mexican flag. they mean that to be provocative and those protesters want to be advance their cause in the future, i would ditch the mexican flag. but he said the rally inside was big and beautiful. outside, criminal. nobody was arrested. i would agree it was lawless, in some ways he reinforced to that community what he thinks about them. after they go back to last june and rapists and murderers,
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however trump meant that, that's not how they heard it. people on other networks were saying this was justified based on what he said before. on the tweet, i think he could have actually said if you want to have a better economic situation for your state. you want jobs? you should come over and join my team. >> even if it is a racial issue and the person in effect is in clay, why not do it by sheer volume. put a ton of cops in there, bring some national guard in there. state guard. and just line them up, outnumber them, put an end to it. it seemed like they were outmanned, outgunned. >> not prepared. >> they were told to stand down. >> remember the baltimore cops with freddie gray? they were getting hit by rocks and they were told by mosby, don't do it. >> my point is, if you're going to stand down or not arrest
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people, put an end to it, get your sheer volume out there. so at least somebody intimidating to the crowd. >> i have a question about the ferguson effect, we know it's been described by the doj to have a chilling he can around law enforcement for fear of the camera. in my line of practice, i've seen the camera protect law enforcement. i don't want our officers to think that the camera is their enemy. there have been instances where law enforcement officers have been able to be validated by their claims of what happened at the scene because of that camera. >> i think they're more worried about what happens after the incident takes place and that they will not be portrayed fairly by the media. there will be cameras, like you said, got hit by the officer, that ultimately becomes something awful. >> i thought it would be picked
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up and be the same we saw all day. >> cut it out, push him into a corner or area and let them research their premade flags there. >> i'm going to throw sound on panel. we love that they're so adorable when they're talking about stuff. here they are talking about the violence last night. >> i think if you were latino immigrant you would be frankly terrified and very angry. >> wherever donald trump goes these are the kinds of protests that are going to follow him. he eggs them on. it allows him to be the carnival barker and get out there and humiliate people. >> i see a person who has built his candidacy on denouncing their humanity. >> how does he winnow out at least a strong minority of support from a group that he has basically cartoonized?
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>> whittle. >> was that "saturday night live"? did that have no basis in fact? >> that was very humanizing experiment last night. >> they don't say anything about the acts of violence and crimes that were committed, assaults, batteries, it's ridiculous. the only way some of us will get shut down. they'll care about the horses, peta will come forward and say, now you've done it. it's one thing to throw rocks at cops, but horses? they obviously have a specific agenda. but they're willing to overlook crimes that are committed. they should make a statement and have some integrity and say, listen they have a right to be there to peacefully protest. obviously they have some concerns, to say that he was there egging them on is not true. >> get ready, we talked about it last night. get ready, cleveland and philly are going to be -- albuquerque, this big, not even a contested race, donald trump was the only
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person running in the gop. the democrats had already voted. this was an uncontested night and it was this rowdy, this out of hand. can you imagine what cleveland is going to be like? gear up, cleveland. >> i hope where we are it's very safe and warm and we have locks on our doors and a blanket. >> no one knows where we are. >> we're going to be with you. >> ask bowling. >> he's not going to be able to do the thing where he walks across about 300 yards. >> i think kimberly could stop a lot of male protesters in their tracks, it's like -- >> can be very persuasive. the kg effect. is what i'm calling that. >> this is the issue, with blaming trust around it a lot of people don't like donald trump, a lot of people don't like what he has to say from a broad spectrum of people.
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but when you blame trump for this type of lawless action, you take away personal accountability. i don't care how much he offends you, how much you feel like your humanity is challenged. i think you meet that by showing humanity, demonstrating humanity. no matter how obnoxious a person can be. that doesn't, i'm not controlling the behavior of other people. in, that's ridiculous. there are plenty of people who would be offended by what i say. who aren't throwing rocks at me. i think right now. not really. >> what do you think, dana? >> i'm not exactly sure what you were saying. >> you're funny. >> i think it's interesting the different perspective that so my instinct was saying oh, my gosh, that's terrible for the business community. for albuquerque, and the cops that were there, who did not have riot gear. what the police were told, if they were told to stand down or
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stand back. i think about the other perspective, the commentary from msnbc. i don't dismiss it. because that is what a lot of people believe and i think it's worth listening to. even if i disagree with it. to try to figure out a way, how can you actually bring people together out of that. >> the ferguson effect, is it going to increase the incidences of this and make them worse? if protesters know cops are told to stand down, not to engage, not to arrest, there's no risk in protesting, right? >> has anybody from albuquerque, from the police department said anything about what's happened? >> crickets. we were waiting. >> it's like this story is going to go away. >> straight ahead, breaking husband from the state department on hillary clinton's private email server, talk about a bad week. plus trump unloaded on clinton again at his event today. along with a woman he called
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donald trump says he loves to counterpunch and he's great at it, he took some new swipes
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at hillary clinton after he stepped up her attacks on him. >> she is a total lightweight. believe me. i watch her speaking, she always uses the teleprompter. i watch her speaking, we are going to win north and south and east and west. she screams, it drives me crazy. i didn't say it she goes and donald trump is a terrible person. and he wanted to buy housing when it was at a low point. who the hell doesn't? >> well trump was back on the campaign trail if california today. and also fired back at another one of his critics. senator elizabeth warren. >> pocahontas, that's elizabeth warren. i call her goofy. she is, no, no, goofy. she gets less done than anybody in the united states senate. she gets nothing done. nothing passed. she's got a big mouth. and that's about it. but they used her because hillary is trying to be very
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presidential, she's stopping with the shouting, okay? but then i listen before and i'll be honest with you, i cannot listen to her, i cannot listen to her. can't listen. >> crooked hillary, goofy elizabeth. po pocahontas. >> i didn't like the pocahontas thing, that's just me. i think we're in for the pettiest contested political race we've ever seen. it's going to be on both sides, think a lot of this pettiness is something that hillary would have loved to have engaged in previously she couldn't do it with barack obama, he was a different kind of candidate. >> didn't i say i wanted to be pocahontas one time.
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i think it's quite complementary. >> you may not like the tactic, but nonetheless, it's got people watching. >> i watch it and i'm like, wow, this is somebody who is saying things that have never been said before. things you would only say in the privacy of your own home. because you have some sort of conscience, you don't want, to offend somebody like that. what he's saying. is the commercial breaks are different for a reason. there's something called pa patriotic race. elizabeth warren is well-liked on the democratic side. she's an effective attack dog, people that go to her speeches say she's really engaging and probably a better speaker in front of a large group like that than hillary clinton is i think you might see a lot more of her on the trail. but when she did the american thing so she could get a leg up
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on other people. it should haunt her. >> doesn't she deserve it now. after what she went through with faking the -- >> i would be a hypocrite if i said that trump calling her pocahontas is wrong. if you remember about three years ago, i said her native american name was fingernails on a chalkboard. i'm an idiot talking head, so i can get away with that sort of thing. if you can't expect trump to elevate this course, that's like expecting a frog to recite shakespeare. this is what he is. that's why he's liked, it's different. it's refreshing and he is right about the when she went after him about the housing bubble. it's one thing to create the mess, it's another thing to profit from it buy low and sell high, that's business. >> i'm doing it the wrong way. >> pocahontas and the
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government, people are always buying low. >> i would totally call elizabeth warren out on the native american thing. i thought it was a bad look for her and jeopardized her credibility. i don't think the name-calling -- >> we're not on the playground now. >> trump ripped susanna martinez in her home state. blaming the new mexico governor for new mexico for economic woes. >> since 2000, the number of people on food stamps in new mexico has tripled. we've got to get your governor to do a better job. she's got to do a better job, okay? she's not doing the job. >> hey. maybe i'll run for governor of new mexico, i'll get this place going! >> was it the economics or susanna martinez says she does not want to be the vp. >> we're supposed to be in this period of republican unifying as a party. that comes from the top. that was donald trump i think the reciprocity for her not
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coming out and supporting him. yesterday she didn't come to the rally. she said she was really busy. she did not endorse him. unity does not mean conformity. those two things are different. he could have taken a pass on that. it was not necessarily to take a swipe on her. she inherented a terrible situation after years of liberal governance. new mexico hardly has any national resources, she's the chairman of the republican governors association. i would imagine with that responsibility. you would want to at least give her a little bit of a pass to understanding. they gave paul ryan a pass while he was figuring things out. i think for the first latina republican governor of the united states, give her a little bit of a break. that was absolutely unnecessary. >> this is giving me an opportunity to plug my article.
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i do an article today on trump and the art of reciprocity. this is about reciprocity. she didn't back him so he hit her. i think he could have been the better guy. >> this is a big opportunity. if i was him i would want her to show up and be there. even if she didn't endorse. take a meeting, something, show a little respect for the presumptive gop nominee. if it was ted cruz or somebody else, she would have done it this is politics, you're supposed to take the higher road in terms of bringing the party today. this would be business payback. >> highest road. >> a contrast. >> a bumpy subway. >> this was shade. she didn't show up and support him in a public way. he took the opportunity, he has the platform. for many people he is the face of the gop and i think he took that muscle and he flexed it big time and threw her a bunch of shade. >> here newt gingrich is on hand, here i have a hunch he may
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be asked this question about susanna martinez and i hear the answer is fairly interesting. up next, stunning developments on hillary clinton's private email server. could a new report by the state department inspector general derail her presidential dreams? details, when we return.
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"get love" my music choices, hillary clinton has repeatedly defended her use of a private email server as secretary of state. >> everything i did was permitted, there was no law, there was no regulation, there was nothing that did not give me the full authority to decide how i was going to communicate. >> but according to a new state department audit, the secretary did need permission to ex-exclusively use her own server and the agency would not
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have granted it if she'd asked. the 78-page report from the inspector general was delivered to congress today. it accuses clinton of violating department policy by not handing over her emails when she left office. here was spokesman mark toner earlier today. >> full extent of her use of private email was not clear to senior staff. they would not have approved this. again i think secretary clinton has said as much. that she's looking back would not have done this the same course of action. >> to be a tongue-tied spokesperson trying to defend that. >> we need less toner. >> we never need toner. >> it doesn't matter if you just put it in. >> the printer says it needs more toner. why don't you comment on this now. >> why don't you go make some copies. >> no matter what happens with this, this is going to be the scab that trump picks at at the debate and it's going to drive her crazy.
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if doesn't mat fer she's indicted or not this thing is not going away. the democrats should have a back-up. no one regrets having a spare tire. they must be having something in the works that they're keeping mum about in case this goes really bad. >> kimberly, do you think there's anything that can be gleaned from today's i.g. report that can tell us what the fbi is doing? >> i think the fbi has all of that already. it shows they're object the track, they're proceeding forward. if the ig has it, then so does the justice department and the fbi. i think this is very bad news for hillary clinton. and no surprise to the justice department. they're on top of this. you know, the fbi is really going to do a thorough job, you trust in jim cummings completely to make sure this flies in the face and shows, lying, lying, better strip it off of mr. cruz, poor mr. cruz and apply it to hillary clinton. because she lied when she said she had the authority, and that
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she did nothing wrong. >> it does show, ebony, a real lack of judgment and a recklessness, with not only the federal records act. but with her entire candidacy. as president. >> 100%, dana. the worst part about this, this isn't a right-wing conspiracy thing about this, this is the obama state department saying this, right? >> they're independent. >> they're independent, but again, it's under the state department and certainly this is not good. this is saying for her to say this is no policies were broken, there were no rules in place. actually secretary clinton, federal records act talked about the expectations here. it said at a minimum she should have turned over all of thoughs emails before she left the state department and by not doing so, she was not in compliance. >> it does add to the suspicion as to all the emails that she deleted.
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>> the clinton campaign came back and said, but they did it, too. and that's such an ugly defense. when you're caught doing something wrong, they did it, too. should not be your defense. >> i don't know -- >> the way it laid out, she didn't do that, she was supposed to ask for permission on this, they were supposed to get a technology expert. he could prove whether or not it was going to be secure. she didn't do that. she was basically saying she was above the law i. not sure that she broke a law. she certainly broke protocol. >> now if she broke the law, she'll get indicted. >> she should be. theoretically, but couple this at the same time. is you know, they have the, your favorite guccifer guy. catherine herridge was there listening to what was going on there, in terms of his ability
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to provide testimony for how easy it was for international hackers to be able to get into secretary clinton's email. again another problem. because that's somebody, that should be rewarded as commander-in-chief, the most important job in the world? that violated these rules? and that didn't keep america safe because she basely left it open for anybody to get access to classified and top-secret information is unacceptable. >> i will take a moment since i have 30 seconds, so one of the clinton campaign will say in the report it says that the state department could have done a better job of making things clear how it's supposed to work and that previous secretaries had a private email server that they use. both rice and powell had dot-gov and personal email accounts. hillary clinton never did. they had occasional use for that. hillary had exclusive use, even after she was told, this is not good, there could be hackers, et cetera. plus the question about turning over the emails when you leave.
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she took it upon herself to delete tens of thousands. she admitted that. it's not the same. not apples to apples, more where that came from. >> if you want it. did you just coin that phrase? >> no, i'm out of gas. >> we do have more show. because breaking news on san francisco. the city is upholding its controversial law protecting illegal immigrants like the man who killed 32-year-old kate styly. think fixing your windshield is a big hassle? not with safelite. this family needed their windshield replaced but they're daughters heart was set on going to the zoo. so guess what, i met them at the zoo. service that fits your schedule. that's another safelite advantage.
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lawmakers in san francisco have decided to keep its controversial law protecting illegal immigrants. the board of supervisors unanimously voted yesterday to uphold the sajt wary city policy a year after the law came under renewed scrutiny after an illegal immigrant murdered
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32-year-old kate steinly. francisco sanchez had been deported five times to mexico, but returned to the u.s. and san francisco in particular, because he knew the city wouldn't report him to the feds. this is such a disturbing story. it seem like it just happened yesterday. i worked in those courtrooms, i was an assistant district attorney. it would be so frustrating. you'd have to go through weeks of stuff to figure out who the defendants were, you would see 25 aliases, because they wanted to avoid any kind of report or detainer to i.c.e. et cetera. it's very frustrating to being a revolving door, dana. when you see these types of crimes committed by people, drunk drivers, innocents murdered and look what happened with kate steinly, walking with her father. >> it's a very strange situation to see what's happening. not just in san francisco where local authorities have said, ignore the feds, don't work with
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the feds on san francisco now has spoken with voting. i mean on the record they've decided to do that. and i don't know whether, i don't know would have been more persuasive than kate steinly's brother making the case that we should at least have coordination between the city and the federal government. and i do think the next president, if it's president trump, there will be a reckoning, when it comes to federal financial support for these cities. hillary clinton, i can guarantee you it will stay the same. >> it's upsetting to me when you see this. i was first lady of san francisco, when i see what's happening there. i know a lot of people on the board of is up visupervisors, i ignoring the facts of what happened and it con tra
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conveniecontra convenients the federal law. >> he said i'm going to build the wall because mexico is sending some of the illegals that come over, some. are the worst of the worst. >> he's called the bigot. he's horrible. he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. he's going to divide the country. two weeks or three weeks, kate steinly is murdered by an illegal who has been sent back seven or so times. and everyone says maybe trump has something there and he built his campaign on that that's how that part of it went down. my question to you guys, i guess is, so the feds are not allowed to enforce the law because the city of san francisco says we're going to hold these immigrants, we're not going to let you it deport them. san francisco or any other city in the country says we're not going to prosecute marijuana crimes, can they do that, too? can a city be a city sanctuary, for other things other than
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illegals? >> los angeles -- >> can a city? >> yes, local ordinances can decide this i have a serious problem, last i checked in law school when a local or state ordinance was in conflict with the federal one, the supremacy clause said the higher authority rules. think this is crap and going back to the truck thing and where we were earlier -- trump thing. you're right this kind of thing happens and it goes, maybe there is something to this theory that a lot of these illegal immigrants in this country are the source of crime and horrible things happening to good people this is where these policies don't do any favors for you know immigrants they're trying to do this thing the right way. those include hispanic immigrants. that are trying to come here and provide a better future for themselves. i don't understand why advocacy groups for those immigrants support this law that does nothing but sully the reputation and general image of hispanic immigrants. >> greg you're from the bay
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area. >> it's my sanctuary city. the left wants it both ways, they want safe spaces to protect people from hurtful feelings and infractions. but then they want spaces that protect illegality. it's whatever they make up. so to your point, why can't we all have our own types of sanctuary cities. places where there's certain laws that i don't like. i should be able to punch a protester in the face and walk away with it in my sanctuary city. we get to pump you in the face, it's against the law, not in this sanctuary city. why can't i smoke in a bar. what about a sanctuary city, where you can say whatever you want. it doesn't matter if it's bigoted, absolutely free speech beyond belief. why don't we do that? >> okay. >> your sanctuary city is your apartment, though. >> outdoor space, okay. small spaces. ahead, hillary clinton paid another visit to ellen, even though she said she was too busy
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as you know, hillary clinton will not come on fox news to debate bernie sanders. but she did take time to visit her old pal, ellen degeneres and play a game of who would you rather -- have as your vp, that is. >> we're going to play a little game key wee call who would you rather? mark cuban or joe biden? >> joe. >> bernie sanders -- >> i believe in making lemonade out of lemons. >> i have seen parts of it. and i do like it. it's great. >> she also took more shots at donald trump. >> if you win, you make a bill that would permanently prevent donald trump from running in the next election? >> it's worth looking into. >> we have a fox news alert. we want to go to fox news correspondent allen carr with developing protests outside of a trump event.
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will? >> hey guys -- [ inaudible ] >> situation has gotten quite volatile. violence has broken out. basically all of these members of law enforcement have been pushing the protesters that we saw at the convention center, about two or three blocks to our south earlier down this street here. you can see they pushed back. but the cops will come up, edge up and they will grab somebody. in last five minutes we've seen seven or eight arrests. at the same time the protesters have been throwing huge rocks at the officers, i mean rocks as big as my hand here. they've been lighting things on fire. they're lighting shirts, they lit a couple of trash cans back there behind us on fire. what we've been seeing is these front lines are inching up close to the protesters. you've got guys over here that have their faces covered, g getting arrested. we'll continue to keep a close eye, back to you. >> kg is going to start us with some q&a around this protest.
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>> did they in fact come to an extra level of preparation because of the protests that happened in albuquerque? last night? so to have extra police today. >> you say that one more time? >> did they provide extra police force protection out there today in light of what transpired yesterday in albuquerque, new mexico? >> the police department told thaus they did not change their plan because of what happened in albuquerque. they said they've known that this rally was going to go on for the past five days. so what they did is they had them, about a week to plan for this. just a couple of weeks ago, here in orange county we had other violence at a trump rally. they said they were prepared. now the one thing i'll say is these protesters were two or three blocks down, not moving. but the officers pushed them back on the street and the street had traffic just within the past couple of minutes, the protesters got pushed into the traffic. started kicking cars, throwing rocks. trying to break windows on some
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of the cars. then they continued to get pushed back. right now it's momentarily calm. within the last ten or 15 minutes, as i mention it's been volatile. >> will i'm going to make a quick observation, anaheim one, albuquerque nothing this is the better way to handle protesters, push them back and do it with volume and a lot of gear. you notice some people had facial masks on. they want to hide their identities, cowards. and you said the cops knew about this for five days, do you see any premade signs? is there any indication on who started it? who organized this protest? >> well there was probably about 50 to 75 protesters to start with. i say there were roughly a dozen who had their faces covered which has become quite typical with these rallies. those are the ones who kept going up to the lines. trying to incite the officers to do something. those are the ones, one by one
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as i mentioned, roughly between seven and ten have been arrested in the last five minutes. i'm curious, what time did the rally sta? will it be light out when it finishes? >> well so this started, the protesters started when the trump rally started, the noon local here. they started showing up earlier. they got stronger, they didn't have any trump supporters to yet at there were some street preachers, they got into a verbal sparring session and the street preachers left and they turned their anger on law enforcement. that's how we got to this situation here. they started saying that this was an unlawful protest and anybody who remained here in this straight. this is a public street, cars and traffic were going along here, a matter of minutes ago. they continue to say anybody in these streets is going to be
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arrested so far we have seen evidence of that, dana. >> where do these rocks come from? like, they're on, they're in basically on a highway. do they bring them with them? do they pick them up? >> along the sides of the streets here, there's some pretty big rocks, they've been picking up. like i said some were the size of grapefruits. one guy threw some that led to his arrest it came right in front of the horses here. and a rock that big, if it hit anybody, especially in the head, that is quite potentially quite dangerous. the protest last night clearly people with mexican flags, protesting the immigration policy of donald trump is there a message at the heart of their protests? or is this just people showing up and creating havoc?
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>> i would say immigration has people fired up. for the most part we saw a bunch of looky-loos coming in. the guys with the masks didn't seem to come for any specific reason no issue on policy. they really seemed to come more because they wanted to stir things up with law enforcement and some are going to spend a little time behind bars. >> do we have any idea how many arrests have been made? >> have you seen significant quantities? >> i can only tell you what we've seen. they're getting a guy right here this is what they've been doing. they race out from the line, they go and get one. they stop here for a second. they're wrapping behind the line. this number of officers, they pick out single individuals. race out from behind the line.
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try to grab them and take them back. you see probably seven, eight times where they got people. these officers right there. not able to arrest anybody, they're singling out the protesters out here trying to get them off the streets. >> thank you, will. >> will, so what's interesting is, they seem like they're well prepared. to me it's like no surprise because the anaheim p.d., an outstanding police department this is how an example of how it can and should be done. are we seeing any of the command brass out there from the police department? anybody in senior authority that appears to be calling the shots and coordinating these efforts? >> not that i can visually see, but they do have a helicopter in the air. they're monitoring this from the ground and the air and to be frank with you. i don't know if you guides have one of those helicopter shots. i can't see what's going on behind this line.
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i would roughly estimate they have between 200 and 300 officers. they have quite a mix of officers not only on the ground. it looks like they may be looking for the next protester to take out. and they have dozens of mounted officers trying to take care of the situation. >> hey will, i don't know if we're supposed to be doing this is there a chance we could talk to one of these protesters and ask them what their grievance is? >> i can ask them. >> he's like, pass. >> we're pushing back, we're pushing back. >> where are they trying to get people to go? how far do they want them to get away? >> that's a good question, we're not sure. they just keep pushing them back into moving traffic. that's part of the plan that you know, i'm not going to second-guess law enforcement of
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the they've obviously had a plan in place for days here. it seems like this has continued to push into ongoing traffic. the protesters then started trying to attack some of the cars that were in traffic out here. officers swept up, got some of those protesters, i'm not sure that went according to plan as to what they were going to do when violence broke out here. >> will, i have a question about, can you figure out the ratio of people who are there just holding cameras and watching and actual protesters? i mean could it be that there's like 30 protesters and everybody else is just there for a show? >> earlier today, there was a section of time where there's probably one trump supporter, one trump protester screaming at each other and i posted a picture on my twitter account, there's 30-plus members of the media surrounding that. it stood out to me. through the course of the day,
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the number of protesters have grown, the number of media has stayed the same. and you have a handful of guys, a handful of delve yants who want to push all the way up to the officers. you get the sense that they came here wanting to get arrested or at least stir up some kind of violent situation. before they try to go home at some point. >> do we see the level of violence and escalation we observed last night in albuquerque, new mexico? they were throwing things lit on fire at the police horses, hurling rocks at the cops. they threw a rock at jonathan hunt when he was trying to report for us last night. >> it's been a little more sporadic than what we saw in albuquerque. but in various moments there have been parts of violence, i've seen a number of items they
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lit on fire. they were kicking cars, trying to break the windshield and the side windows in some of the cars we saw, not as much as what we saw last night in new mexico. but certainly there has been that kind of criminal element there. >> will, ebony again, are you able to hear any of the protesters in terms of chant or things they're saying. i understand they don't have a clear concise political message. but anything you're able to hear on the ground that they're saying or chanting? >> yeah. ebony, some of the things i can't say on cable news and keep my job. but most are anti-trump sentiments, very vitriolic, so are the signs and chant that we've heard. a lot of cuss words and a lot of anger from the people that we have encountered. >> will carr thank you for that update live from anaheim, california where people are pushing back the anti-trump
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