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there you go. very nice. >> tomorrow we'll kick off our all-american summer concert series with country music star dustin lynch. bill: hillary clinton knowingly broke the rules despite repeated security concerns by the department of state. that is just part of a scathing report by the department. martha: the inspector general's report revealed hacking attempts did force the state department to temporarily take down that system. hillary clinton brush be off this report. but that's giving donald trump fresh ammo.
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>> i have couple with crooked hillary. they had a bad, bad report card. that is a sad report. martha: steve di dinan is here h the details. and catherine herridge is with us. catherine, what are you finding now? reporter: despite public assurances they want to be open and cooperate. her huma abedin and cheryl miss, as well as jake sullivan refused interviews with investigators. they were required to help the inspector general. an. >> there were reports a few months back suggesting -- affirming the fact one of the top individual in that office,
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the number two official in that office had formerly worked for senator grassley, which has been one of secretary clinton's steve antagonists on this issue. reporter: the head of the agency involved in this case, mrs. clinton is required to assist and authorizes the inspector general to have direct and prompt access to the head of the establishment involved when necessary for any purpose pertaining to the performance of functions and responsibilities under this act. on the hacking attacks, the report documented an episode in 2011 with two attempted breaches in a single day, and they were not properly reported to the state department security. >> what about the silencing of state department staff on this? reporter: the report found that no one approved mrs. clinton's
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personal server for state department business. when two state department members expressed concerns. they were told never to speak about their concerns again. former justice department official says the findings are significant but do not directly impact the independent f.b.i. criminal investigation. >> it's very serious findings that secretary clinton and other individuals at the department violated record retention. there are harmful factual findings in the report. they are going to make recommendations to insure nothing like this ever happens
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again. reporter: legal experts pointed out mrs. clinton and her team might want to avoid any the other testimony that night conflict with their q and ax d q and a sessions. bill: when you consider what we learned in this report, mrs. clinton insists she was playing within the rules. here are two examples. >> my personal email use was fully above board it was allowed by the state department as they confirmed. the truth is everything i did was permitted and i went above and beyond what anybody could have expected in making sure if the state department didn't capture something, i made a real effort to get it to them. and i had no obligation to do any of that.
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bill: steven dinan, political editor on the hill. when you consider two the statement just made there. it was allowed by the state department as they have confirmed. not true? july last year, i made a real effort to get it to them. she did not even sit for an interview. again, not true. who is going to believe this now? >> those two quotes you just played. that's the point in all of this. this report could not have been worse for mrs. clinton. it add to that weight of evidence that she was manipulating her system to keep it from the one eye. we have reports of lower-level staffers who raised concerns and were silenced for that. it does begin to weigh even more on her campaign. her assurances she had been
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truthful all under cut by the fact that all of her top aide refused to cooperate with the inspector general. at some point the weight of that evidence does weigh down even further. >> is it truly devastating or is it just a story for today or for this week? >> there are a couple of things. for this week it's really devastating because it's all people are talking about. there are so many things in this report that are undercut by this report. there are other things under cut by this report. the explanation or excuse is former secretary powell did the same thing. that's true, the report does confirm that. by the says yes, but, in the early 2000 email was new in the department and the department rules were very fluid. it specifically says by the time secretary clinton took office those rules were firmed up.
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they were very direct about what she was required to do, and she didn't follow those rules. so it dismissed the current democratic talking point. the weight of it undercuts a lot of her excuses on this. to answer your question directly how much legs does this have. the clinton campaign's current explanation is the f.b.i. investigation. they put all their eggs in the f.b.i. investigation. if that comes back with no charges they will say we were exonerated and ignore the state department report. that's somewhat true. but if they come back with charge charges, that's really bad. that's one of the reasons why they didn't talk to the inspector general. everything depend on the f.b.i.
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if you are talking about criminal charges as opposed to an administrative finding of breaking policy. they will point to that as an exoneration or else it's very real trouble if there are recommended charges. bill: politically if you are donald trump's team, can he go after this information? >> this election -- we are talking about an election about who voters dislike more than donald trump and hillary clinton if she is the nominee. this is more evidence that adds to that dislike. it remind people of the rules don't apply to us sense that they had about the clintons earlier. the more weight you add to mrs. clinton to push her down. i don't know that they need to do have much. i do expect them -- donald trump is good with these one-liners,
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and it plays into it, crooked hillary. martha: president obama was asked about all of this during this trip to japan. he took a reporter's question on whether the email issue undermines her truth with the american people. >> i said a lot on those issues. i think those are better directed to the campaign. during the course of the primary people say what they think might help them get some votes. and, you know, once the campaign is over, then they move on. martha: the president reclined to address a follow-up issue on the goldman sachs issue and the
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wall street speeches. the president said at one point something to the effect, there was never any security breach here. the information was never exposed in any way. in fact we don't know that now. what we learned in this report is there was a time when they were concerned and they shut the system down. bill: she did not sit for an interview. everyone else did. you wonder if this was just in hillary clinton's orbit. if she is using a personal email at the highest levels of government, they had to recognize what her email address was. everybody supposedly knows the rules and violated them in case after case. you look at the report from march of 2011, there is traffic on the email that says and warns about using personal email. it warns about cyber-security and warns about hackers and has her signature on the email.
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martha: you and i email each other all the time. if one of us were using our home email, you would notice. bill: hillary's right-hand woman while at the state department was cheryl mills. she'll be questioned by judicial watch tomorrow. we'll talk to the president of that organization and the questions he has and what he thinks about the state department report now. martha: donald trump saying he's willing to do another debate, but with whom. bill: another day and massive destruction in the heartland. a massive tornado. destroying even fire neighborhoods in the live report from the disaster zone in the cleanup starting this morning. >> it's all right for these people's houses, though.
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martha: a massive tornado was caught on camera as it ripped through northern kansas. watch this. >> it's going right for these people's houses. time to go! time to go!
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i think that was somebody's house. martha: at least 20 homes were taken down. it downed power lines and flipped at least one car. knowledge crews going door to door to make sure everybody is okay. so far upon minor injuries have been reported. bill: a former aide to hillary clinton is set to go face to face with judicial watch. will you be in the room? >> i will. i plan to attend and watch. bill: what was the relationship between cheryl mills and hillary clinton? >> she is a close confidante of hillary clinton. she worked with her in the white
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house and at the clinton foundation. then became her chief of staff during the time she was secretary of state. after she left office, she worked with mrs. clinton again. was her lawyer involved with the email matter. also worked with the clinton foundation. bill: what can you reveal about your focus friday. is it email servers? >> it's about this email system. the courts want to know, was it set up to subvert foia? and was foia subverted. bill: the way i understand it. if you file a foia request, a freedom of information act. if that is a government document, you can get, right? you might have to fight for a while, but you will get it. if it's a personal document is it off limits to you and others? >> if it's truly personality can
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be off limits. but in the case of mrs. clinton. she took the records, turned over only half of them, and said i just presumed the others were personal because my lawyers looked at it and told me that. but that's not the way it works under the freedom of information act. all those records should have been reviewed by government officials. that's the goal to get all of mrs. clinton's emails she took. bill: why did she do it this way? >> to avoid disclose our, i think. the effect is delay by years of information. the information was not voluntary it was forced out. it makes her raise questions about the clinton foundation and her relationship with donors and the foundation.
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the connections with sidney blumenthal. you can see why she wouldn't have want them out there. who knows what she is withholding. >> will you record your question and answer with cheryl mills? >> my understanding is it will be record, transcribed and videotaped. the judge said this is a public forum. it's about the right to know. bill: her attorneys argue it's unfair and misleading. if you record it and release it you could edit it. >> obviously anything can be taken out of context. but the public has a right to know about this information, and that's our goal here. should anything be record if that's the case? i can't imagine that would be
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the rules. bill: you are saying you are going to record this session. >> they don't to be the recording. they just don't want it released to the public. they don't want the american people to see it. but they are happy to have it there for the courts. maybe there is a solution in the middle. >> you will record it and fight to have it released to the public if you feel it's germane. >> we'll haven't filed the response yet. lawyers are working on it now. bill: noon deadline, we'll see what happens next. martha: nearly a dozen states announced they will take action against the obama administration over the recent directive to public schools on transgender bathrooms.
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bill: we have one person dead and three injured after a shooting at a new york city concert. the shots fired minutes before the rapper t.i. was set to take
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stage. the violence erupted in a back stage green room before spilling out into the stable area. the suspected gunman has not been arrested. still at large this morning. martha: there is a huge battle unfolding that will make headlines all this long hot summer. texas is leading 11 states in a lawsuit that challenges the administration's bathroom policy. the state attorney general calling it another example of executive overreach. >> those battles ought to be fought out in congress, not by one person in the white house. this guideline does not address any particular problem. if thee groups want to change the law, they should speak to their congressman and work on changing those laws. but it shouldn't come through
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the white house. martha: judge janine pirro, good to have you with us. the justice department said discrimination against transgender people was barred under federal laws for discrimination based on sex. reporter: what the department of justice is saying title 9 applies to transgender student. so coming to a school near your child there is going to be a requirement according to the obama administration that that school allow kid to go into the bathroom depending on their gender identity, not what's on their birth certai -- birth cer.
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when we were in school we would have a lot of yuks on this one. but it does not have any legal precedent. it does not have the force of law, it has the threat of an executive order with the bootstrap you are going to lose your federal funding. hogwash say 11 states. we are suing you because you can't tell us. this is not required by law. martha: it gets caught up in the sensitivity issue, but perhaps it's best hand by the school and the community coming up with a solution that works best for them. these state are saying you don't have the right to impose this on us constitutionally. if you talk about title nine, based on sex of the individual who play on sports teams. but as you point out, you can't extend that, there is no law underlying that also depend on how you might feel that day. >> this gender identity is
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described as an internal sense of gender. you can imagine kid saying today i feel like a girl, tomorrow i feel like a boy. but there is no problem. the attorney glent clip you just aired make it clear, this is a solution in search of a problem. who is complaining. if there has to be a decision, let's do it based on a problem or issue in that district. a case brought by an individual student. the rights of the other children, they have a right to their privacy as well. >> you don't want your daughter going into a bathroom where a guy goes in and says i feel like a girl today. there is no test to determine gender identity, that internal sense. how do i know you are not making it up? the president lacks the authority to do this. this is a continuation of his
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cultural changes by executive order. martha: you have to look at the law. >> law counts. martha: and the rules and whether the white house has the ability to make these changes. we have to focus on reading and math. reporter: congress writes the laws. bill: markets open in one minute. the dow gained 145 yesterday. can we expect more of the same today? we'll find out momentarily. martha: a scathing report on hillary clinton's emails. will this make it worse for the trust issue. >> the use of that server which started with my husband certainly proves to be effective
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and secure.
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bill: the president says trump's rise in politic has world leaders he has spoken with shaken up. >> they are not sure how seriously to take some of his pronouncements. he does a lot of proposals he has made display either ignorance on world affairs or a cavalier attitude, or an interest in getting tweets and headlines instead of thinking through what it is required to keep america safe.
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bill: the president criticizing trump while dodging question on his fellow democrat, hillary clinton. >> i did not email any classified materials to anyone on my email. there is no classified materials. the system we used was set up for president clinton's office. it had numerous safeguard. it was on property guarded by the secret service, and there were no security breaches. martha: there are a lot of holes that have been blown through those statement. there is a lack of trust voters have in her. doug schoen and monica crowley, good to see you both. as an attorney, that is -- when
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you look back at that statement, it's so carefully worded. and now the finding in this report just drive a truck through the holes she left open in that statement. >> look, martha, i'm a clinton supporter. i'm a lawyer. as a clinton supporter i'm worried hearing what i heard from her. and as a lawyer i read the statute, it talks about gross negligence, and transmitting classified information. i think she is in a very, very perilous legal situation. i don't think there is any other way to put it. martha: brian fallon was asked why hillary clinton was the only secretary of state that declined to be interviewed for this inspector general art. the agency she headed. she said i won't speak to you and none of my people will speak
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to you either. here is brian fallon her spokesperson explaining why. >> to our mind it was better to classified the review by the justice department and she encouraged all of her aide to cooperate in he way with the justice department review. martha: she told her people, do not speak to the inspector general. she did not speak to the inspector general. the person who raised questions about the server in her office was told never to speak about her personal email server again. if you only talk to the d.o.j. which she says she'll do, you have the possibility you will get your stories confused if you speak to both reports, correct? >> that's correct. >> the law requires gross negligence, it doesn't require intent. we know she did intend to
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violate the law and she did intend to keep this secret. she actually fired a u.s. ambassador, somebody who worked under her while she was secretary of state for doing exactly this, for using a private email for his government business. also the idea she instructed her team never to speak of this again after concerns were raised by the use of a private server. this report shows she has been dishonest which she said she had permission. clearly she did not. if she had asked for per anything she would have been denied. it shows transparency problems because she did not disclose that she had this private system in place, and it shows she had no intention of cooperating. she and her team refused interviews, even though colin powell and merchandise lynn
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albright have spoken to the state department officials. martha: we found out that the state department never knew he was doing side work for the clintons which you would think you would tell your employer i'm going up to talk to the head of the state department and i'm installing a server at her house. it's very odd. this guccifer guy who catherine herridge claims is low level to the point that there is no other explanation why he has been brought here other than they think he has some good on this. >> you heard in one of the comments, this was relationship nally set up as a server by pagliano who is a political employee for president clinton involving his own communications and that of the clinton foundation. if guccifer was able to hack into the system as a low-level romanian hearing, that suggests
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the russians and chinese didn't have much of a problem. as monica suggests, this is getting worse and worse. on the eve of the california primary where hillary has to beat bernie sanders, the timing couldn't be worse. martha: we'll talk about the possible impact coming up in a little while. thank you, monica. thank you, doug. bill: people go head-to-head with bernie sanders in a debate. mr. trump take and appearance with jimmy kimmel saying he would face sanders if proceed from that debate go to charity. >> yes, i will. how much is he going to pay me.
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if i debated him, we would have such high ratings and i think i should take that money and give it to some worthy charity. if it were to go to charity, i would do that. >> what if the network put up the money. >> that could happen also. bill: he tweeted game on. i don't think clinton's position is going to change. can you imagine what a trump-sanders debate would do? the charities you could benefit? it would be huge. huge. bill: i don't think it's going to happen. martha: you don't? bill: nah. martha: they were supposed to
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keep people safe in the skies. >> the aviation sector is the crown jewel target. martha: the tsa chief admitting failures to the system while admitting steps they will take to speed up screening. bill: once he is back from where, we are not exactly sure. but he announced it with style in front of one of california's iconic landmarks. the authorities were not amused. why would they be?
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>> a man who wasn't afraid of heights scaling the iconic hollywood sign.
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the man can be seen waving a flag sporting the message, i'm back. police probably asked him that question. who doesn't want to climb up on that and take a picture. i those might be the guy who climbed up the brooklyn bridge. he tried climbing that sign before. he's back and he did it. good for you. he's in custody, but mission accomplished. bill: good story. a fox news alert. another hearing on the problems with airport security. more testimony expected from witnesses at the industry. terrorism and security is a big deal. congressman mike mccaul, the chairman of that committee live from the hill. what did you learn yesterday? what can you tell us? what's the explanation? >> i don't think tsa saw this coming.
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we have a crisis at america's airports across the nation. they didn't prepare for this. when we talk to the airlines and the airport authorities, tsa is not listen together airlines and the airport authorities about staffing patterns, when, where and at what time. it's a staffing model issue. we need to redeploy current personnel like the behavioral detection guides to the front line. we have to look at moving -- we already appropriated the money. it's about putting the money from part time to full time so we don't have chicago -- we are going to see all across the nation if we don't see r do something now. >> i don't get it. this wasn't a problem last may. what's changed? >> i think tsa just didn't get
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it, and they are not getting local input. we reprogrammed this money to put 800 more tso officers in the line of duty. and i just don't think they are listening. so our oversight is very important. we need to fix it so before we go to memorial day week into the travel season. security is paramount here. we saw what happened with the egyptian airliner case. but we don't have to have long lines either. bill: you have an issue with chicago and atlanta as well. i flew out of new york to ohio with no problems. i remember signing up for precheck seven years ago when it was free. a year ago that membership expired and i was told you had
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to sign up again. no problem, i get it. but this time i had to pay $85. now the government is forcing people to pay for security, $85. is that the issue? is the government trying to raise more money or is the question in chicago an issue of local management or is it both? >> it's both, bill. we have two bills sitting in the senate, one to to deal with precheck expansion in the program, to take the long lines and put them in the precheck lines. and they are just sitting over there in the senate and they are not taking action. they can help resolve this problem today. we also have a bill to introduce today to talk to airport authorities about when the
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flights are coming in. put the right people in the right place at the right time. we have two bills that we passed that would deal with the screening at foreign airports, last point of departure and equipment that could make a difference to the safety of americans. yet the senate is sitting on these bills, putting a hold on them, and they are failing to act. protecting american lives, shortening the lines at the airports. the senate is doing nothing. i'm very frustrated with that. bill: i smell a rat in this. it's either money or jobs or both. martha: excruciating circumstances for refugees fleeing isis as a boat capsizes
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dumping hundreds of refugees into the ocean. bill: frustrated workers taking their grievances to the head quarters of mcdonald's on what they want.
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bill: italian sailors rescuing 500 refugees after their vessel flipped into the water. officials say five people died.
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latest in these incidents for these refugees on water. martha: strike employees rallying outside mcdonald's headquarters in illinois. they are trying to turn the annual shareholders meeting into a massive protest for higher wages. >> this is the sprawling mcdonald's campus in oakbrook, illinois. you can see people with the drums and meg phones. all of them cashiers and cooks from mcdonald's. other minimum wage employees demanding a $15 an hour minimum wage. a lot of people are discussing they just don't have enough money to get by. but the former mcdonald's ceo said these demonstrators are going to protest their way from low income to no income.
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>> if you look at the robot i can device coming into the toronto industry, it's cheaper to buy a cheaper $35,000 robotic arm than pay $15 an hour to an employee bagging french fries. it's nonsense. reporter: they say $10 isn't enough to get by. but that flies in the face of the argument that minimum wage is not something you are supposed to raise a family on. it's suppose to be transitional. mcdonalds has tried to stay out of the fracas. it came from spokesperson lirks sa mccaul. they say they provide hundreds of thousands of people with employment, oftentimes their first job. we offer mcdonald's employees valuable skills and a work ethic
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beyond our restaurant. they help people finish their high school degrees and oftentimes financing and transitions into a college degree. they are center trying to stay out of this demonstration. several hundred demonstrators are trying to get on to the campus. bill: president obama jumping back into the campaign for the white house. what he said about donald trump, what he did not say about hillary clinton, and what the trump team is saying in return. hi, i'm matt mccoy.
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martha: president obama launches a broadside against donald trump halfway around the world in japan. the president dragging domestic campaign matters into the international economic summit. he slammed trump's approach to global affairs. we'll play it for you in a second.
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brand new hour two of "america's newsroom," i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer. the president saying world leaders are paying close attention to this campaign, and, he says, they have good reason to be rattled by trump's message. >> i think it's fair to say that they are surprised by the republican nominee. they are not sure how seriously to take some of his pronouncements, but they're rattled by him. bill: senior national correspondent john roberts live in bismarck, north dakota, good morning to you. what about the biting remarks on the sidelines of that g7 summit from japan? >> reporter: well, you know, bill, there is sort of -- it's an unwritten policy, but it's one that has been pretty much observed over the decades, that politics ends at the water's edge. certainly, donald trump has held back from criticizing president obama in in any way after what e president said. but at a press conference, the president unloaded on donald
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trump, as you saw there, saying that world leaders would be rattled or are rattled by the idea of him becoming president, that they're not sure about his foreign policy. here's what the president went on to say about trump. >> a lot of the proposals that he's made display either ignorance of world affairs or a cavalier attitude or an interest in getting tweaks and headlines instead of actually thinking through what it is that is required to keep america safe and secure and prosperous and what's required to keep the world on an even keel. >> reporter: yeah. that little bit of a departure from the norm, bill. typically, when you're overseas like that you don't talk about politics, and people back home don't criticize you when you're overseas as the president either. we're waiting to see if donald
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trump responds. again, so far he hasn't. he's going to be here in bismarck to speak to the williston basis petroleum con tent. a lot of the new energy boom comes out of north dakota here. oil prices have been down so far, but we're expecting donald trump is going to up veil many nuggets in his energy policy today. he's been a big proponent be of fracking. in terms of what he says today, a lot of it's going to be contrast with hillary clinton. one of his senior policy advisers, steve miller or, telling fox news mr. trump will draw a contrast between hillary clinton's plan. he'll be speaking about 2:00 this afternoon. we also understand, bill, he's going to speak to the press before that, so we hope to delve more into what he's been saying -- bill: in the meantime, another shake-up in the trump campaign
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of significance. what's happening there, john? >> reporter: a fellow named rick wily who was wisconsin governor scott walker's campaign manager, he was hired just six weeks ago, but he's gone now. the trump campaign saying it was only a temporary position, but national political director is not a temporary profession, so i checked in with some folks in the trump campaign. without naming sources, i'm told he was treating people in the field poorly, he wasn't following up, but he really got into a row with trump's field director in florida, a woman named kathleen. and with folks in nevada as well. these are trump loyalists. apparently wiley, according to sources, was trying to go around them. these folks had conversations with trump and said, hey, we don't understand what's going on here. trump believed them, apparently, and now rick wiley is gone. bill: thank you, john, in north dakota. martha: more on this, senior
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adviser to the campaign, sarah, welcome. you were just listening to john's report. good to see you this morning. let's start with the rick wiley issue first. what does this reveal about what's going on inside the campaign right now? >> look, i think anytime you have a organization this large moving into the general election, it's inevitable that you're going to have some staff changes from time to time. the bottom line is donald trump has a battle-tested, very loyal campaign staff. there's always been one person in control of his campaign, the same person that was in control on day one is in control now, and that's donald trump. he's the leader of his campaign, and he's looking for loyal staff members, and he's got a very great team, campaign manager corey lewandowski, paul manafort, he's got a season, battle-tested team, and he's doing extremely well in the polls, and he's going to stick by the guys that have been with him. martha: so the story that came
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out was that kara your know wasn't happy and that she, you know, that trump said to her, what's going on, you know? wanted to speak to her personally. and when she explained to him what her frustration was, that's when wiley, basically, was moved out, and he stood by her. that indicative of his management style, very hands on and very loyal, i guess? >> absolutely, very hands on. but i think, again, and you said it best, very loyal. i think that's one of the reasons that the people that are on his team, that have been with him from the beginning are still there, still leading his operation. and donald trump values loyalty not just in his campaign staff, but in business. and i think that's an extremely good quality to have in a president. and i think that's another reason that american people are rallying around him and that he's leading in polls and going to win in november. martha: will it make the campaign too thin, to use the rnc's word? they're concerned there's not enough infrastructure, not enough ground game in these
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states and that the campaign has not really made the mental leap to the general direction and how different that is from a primary? >> i think we're certainly moving to that. we've been adding staff. i think the notion that he has a thin staff is kind of laughable considering he beat out 16 other candidates to be where he is right now. he's winning in the polls. numbers don't lie. donald trump has won and become the nominee with the small team that he has, and he's beating hillary clinton in a lot of battleground states. so to say that he doesn't have the team to take it on, i think, is kind of ridiculous. martha: i want to try to squeeze in two other topics. the president said other world leaders were rattled by the possibility of donald trump becoming president. your thoughts on that, sarah? >> a lot of world leaders didn't think ronald reagan was going to make a great president, but he did. the obama foreign policy has been a complete disaster, an utter failure, and our enemies don't fear obama, and they
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certainly don't fear hillary, and donald trump's going to make a great president. he's going to be strong, and he's going to put americans first. and i think that's a huge contrast in comparison. martha: want to get your thoughts on the susana martinez situation. here's donald trump railing against her, a republican woman governor in new mexico who gets a lot of credit from a lot of people in the party. here's donald trump. >> we have to get your governor to get going. she's got to do a better job, okay? your governor has got to do a better job. she's not doing the job. hey! finish -- maybe i'll run for governor of new mexico. i'll get this place going. [cheers and applause] martha: a lot of people think that was a bad move, sarah. >> look, anytime you have a lot of different people involved in the process, you're going to have policy differences. some people in our party want open borders, donald trump wants to secure the border. you're going to have some of that conflict. even when he becomes president -- martha: but is he smart to go
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after this woman, sarah, who's a hispanic woman and someone who's been really recognized in many ways by the party as someone who's exactly the kind of person that needs to be involved in a potential trump administration? is it wise? >> i don't think it has -- i don't think it has anything to do with the fact that she's a woman, but it has to do with the fact that they have a policy disagreement. and i think anytime that happens just because it's a woman, you can't back down because you disagree. and, again, i think that you're going to have moments like that even when donald trump becomes president. you may not always agree, but the bottom line is donald trump is uniting republicans. not just republicans, but americans around the country, and one of the big reasons is because he's willing to secure the border, and he's willing to speak out about that. voters or americans want him to back away from that. martha: all right. we'll see how he does in new mexico. sarah huckabee-sanders who looks like she's in a good spot to get the weekend started for memorial day, good to see you as always.
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>> you too. thank you, martha. bill: there is a hearing getting started on the hill about the state of our u.s. military. we've been reporting for some time now on the delaware stating -- devastating impact budgets are having on old, outdated equipment. today lawmakers will hear firsthand from navy captains who live with it by the day. rich edson live at the pentagon. rich, good morning. what will we hear today? >> good morning, bill. this is a unique hearing roster for the house armed services committee. typically, these lawmakers will hear from generals and admirals, but today it's from four u.s. navy captains who have just come back from deployment or are about to deploy. they will give details about readiness issues that they are facing because of budget cuts. this hearing is just underway right now. our jennifer griffin has been reporting on these issues. she just returned from south dakota and ellsworth air force base, home of the b-1 bomber, where she spoke the crews about
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their maintenance issues. >> we only have 20 aircraft assigned on station currently. out of those 20, only 9 are fly bl. the jet i worked on 20 years ago had a thousand flight hours on it. now we're looking at some of the airplanes out here that are pushing 10,000 flight hours. the aircraft are tired as well. >> reporter: the pentagon says this year's budget request addresses many of these issues and that they're working on these problems. bill: thank you, rich. rich edson there at the pent gone. martha. martha: 90 minutes of total chaos in the heartland when a massive twister touched down. [bleep] >> going right for these people's houses though. martha: ahead, a live report from kansas where people are picking up the pieces, quite literally. bill: wow, every day. another fierce day of fighting in fallujah, rocky forces trying to -- iraqing key force trying to topple isis. martha: and a state department
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e-mail report magnifying hillary clinton's trust problem. but what about past contradictory statements made by donald trump? >> when they ask me about hillary, she's wonderful. everybody's wonderful. [laughter] and that's the way it is, including contributions. they ask me for contributions, i give contributions -- >> so you were full of [bleep] when you said -- [laughter] [cheers and applause] try cool . it releases a cooling sensation in your mouth and throat. zantac works in as little as 30 minutes. nexium can take 24 hours. try cool mint zantac. no pill relieves heartburn faster.
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topple isis with the help of the u.s. military from above. a is shiite militia group aligned with the iraqi government said to be teaming up with groups to target isis positions near the term. isis has controlled fallujah, scene of numerous american casualties, in years past for two years. martha: state department watchdog report adding problems to hillary clinton's campaign. a large majority of voters do not trust hillary clinton. we're going to show you the numbers. donald trump wasted no time making the report an issue on the campaign trail, but during an appearance on kimmel last night he was of put on the spot, asked about times in the past when he praised hillary clinton and her husband. here's how he explained it. >> when i am a businessman, i had a beautiful story recently where they said trump is a world class businessman. all over the world we're doing jobs. i speak well of everybody. if people ask me about politicians, i speak well. so when they ask me about
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hillary, she's wonderful, the husband -- everybody's wonderful, and that's the way it is. [laughter] including contributions. they ask me for contributions, i give contributions. >> so you were full of [bleep] when you said that. [laughter] martha: and he goes, oh, a little bit. yeah, a little bit. byron york with the washington examiner and a fox news contributor, byron, what do do u make of that exchange last night? [laughter] >> good morning, martha. you notice trump didn't say no when he was asked where are you full of it back then, he didn't say no. this is something trump has been asked a lot in the primary season because republicans tried to link him to hillary clinton, and he got away with it. didn't work. and he got away with it last night on kimmel with just a laugh. but he is going to face it in the general election campaign, and he'll likely face it from hillary clinton herself when they finally meet in debates in the fall. and it's not clear whether his, well, i was a businessman, i liked everybody. i don't know if that's ooh actually going to work when hillary clinton puts it to him face to face.
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martha: but how is she going to do it when he's going to turn around and say to her, you know, look, you played the game too. you played the wall street game. you gave the speeches, you got the money, you know? if it were bernie sanders, i think he could turn around and say to donald trump, you know what? you're the ultimate insider, and you explained it yourself. but that's going to be a very tough argument for hillary clinton to make given what's happening, byron. >> excellent point. trump will say i gave you money, you came to my wedding. so they may both be kind of wrapped up in these charges. and we know now, i mean, we've known for quite a while that neither one of them is viewed as really honest and trustworthy by the voters. so it could be kind of a race to the bottom when you get to the debates. martha: i think that has a lot of people feeling, you know, not so great about this whole situation in 2016. let's take a look at these honest and trustworthy numbers, because they bear it out. and we know that, you know -- here's hillary clinton first. honest and trustworthy, no say 66%. look at donald trump.
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his numbers better but still not good, 57%. how did we get to this position? you know, when you look at the honest and trustworthy numbers for bill clinton and bernie sanders, they're both pretty good. but they're not running for president. i mean, bernie sanders is, excuse me, but hillary clinton seems to have sewed up that nomination, byron. >> well, she has. but she's had a problem with honest and trustworthy numbers for a very long time. and what we've seen with mrs. clinton is that when she enters the political arena where she is now, her approval ratings, the numbers for honesty, trustworthiness all go down. when she's in perceived in what's a sort of nonpartisan position, when she was the first lady, secretary of state, her numbers with the public are much, much better. but when she get into that partisan arena, her flaws and record of not telling the truth at times in the past really come back at her. martha: so this is the choice that people most likely will be faced with, although there is some, you know, if bernie
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sanders wins california, and you've got elizabeth warren having a great time going after donald trump, there's another scenario some people can picture going on right now. however, what we're looking at right now people have to ask themselves, you know, is it okay to be a, you know, bs-er in business? is that something everybody can sort of accept and say, well, that's just what businessmen do? and on the other hand, do you pick someone who has consistently misled people about her e-mail system and whether or not she dealt with classified state secrets? they're going to decide which is worse. >> well, trump is trying to get the advantage on that, and obviously, he rolled out the crooked hillary name a while back which has to so far, i thi, been catching on. and this latest state department report might well for political purposes have been subtitled crooked hillary. he went pretty easy on her on kimmel last night, but that is going to change in the future. martha: yeah. why do you think he went easy on
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her last night? storing up the ammo? >> well, it takes a while to digest the report and also a lot of the press was being very critical of her. we seed to have y'alls in mainstream -- seed to have y'alls today being very, very critical of her. to other people are kind of doing his work for him right now. but on the stump, believe me, he's going to talk about it a lot. martha: she's a weakened candidate, byron, and this is not helping her situation whatsoever. if bernie sanders can pull out a win in california, does that change this game? >> well, it probably doesn't change the delegate game, but it really -- the idea of hillary clinton going out on this enormous losing note, losing in the bigst state in the country -- biggest state in the country, a very, very blue state, it would actually be kind of devastating to her campaign. and, you know, the sanders campaign when they reach the point where it's virtually impossible for them to win enough pledged delegates to win the nomination, their strategy changed to do something like
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this and then say to all those superdelegates who do hold the balance of party in the democratic party -- power in the democratic party, come on over to my side. she's a loser, i'm a winner. that'd bea strange argument. martha: it sure would. and i don't think these guys are going anywhere be, sanders or, you know, elizabeth warren who keeps kind of popping up in the wings is not going anywhere either. thank you very much, byron. interesting stuff. >> good to be here. bill: in a moment here concerns out of beijing. reports that china may deploy nuclear-armed submarines in the pacific ocean. the issue here, we are there as well. what's the end game? martha: we're going to dig into that. and controversy over a katie couric documentary on guns. are the filmmakers guilty of selective and unfair, some say, acts? >> if there are no background checks for gun purchasers, how do you prevent felons or
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martha: we have some very big news right now in the campaign. the associated press has just reported that donald trump has, indeed, reached the magic number that that it takes to clinch the nomination. 1237 is what you need. boy, we have talked about that number for months and months. look at where the ap believes he is at right now. 1238, thanks to a small number of unbound delegates who told ap when they get to that convention, they are with donald trump.
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among them is oklahoma gop chairwoman pam pollard. in this case enough people have now said, yes, we're going to support donald trump. byron york rejoins us with this breaking news. you think about that moment, byron, when he came down that escalator. and to be honest, most people did not take the whole thing too seriously. right? >> they did not, not predicted by very many people. just as of yesterday we had the delegate count, i believe, at 1209 leaving trump 28 delegates short. but there were always a number of up bound delegates -- unbound delegates, people who did not have to commit to any candidate before the convention. there were about 200 of them in the republican party. ap went out and looked at some of those people. now they've decided to go with trump, putting trump at 1238. huge news for two reasons. the big one is, obviously, he has clinched the nomination. this' really huge. the second one is the fact he's done this with the unbound
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delegates indicates he is consolidating the party. you mentioned the oklahoma gop chairman. republican party officials around the country in the various states are coming over to donald trump. martha: and look at this screen. just keep this screen up for a moment, okay? you've got ted cruz, marco rubio, john kasich, and you can add jeb bush into that mix. these were the people who were supposed to be the republican nominee, but then one, you know, one day donald trump looked at his life and looked at what was going on in the country and said, no, it's going to be me. and nobody believed him, byron. and he hammered at it and hammered at it with a skeletal, small group of people running his campaign. and, you know, you look at john kasich on that screen, right? he is, you know, not a happy camper at 161. he said, you bet this thing is going to a contested convention. we all studied up, there was going to be a brawl at the republican convention in july. no dice. donald trump seals the deal today, byron. final thoughts.
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>> the important thing is he was serious about this a long time -- martha: that's right. >> -- before people knew. he was making contact with people at christmas time of 2014. in may of 2015 i wrote an article about taking trump seriously and noted that at that point in may he had spent more time in iowa than jeb bush, chris christie and marco rubio put together. he'd hired experienced operatives, he was serious about it at a time when people were not taking him seriously. martha: and it's been on his mind back since 1998, essentially. >> yep. martha: and he registered the make america great again trademark days after mitt romney lost. keep that in mind as we mark moment today. byron, thanks for coming back. bill: howard kurtz live with us from d.c., good morning to you. i think geraldo was the first one who said he'd be the nominee. that was july of last summer. as he will rightly point out to you. you have these unbound delegates that put him over the top, but
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you still have at least five more contests, howie, on the 7th of june that will easily put trump well above that 1237 number. this is no issue anymore. >> seems like only yesterday we were running endless cable news segments about how could donald trump possibly get to 1237? the ap call makes it official, but it does act as an exclamation point on a remarkable political odyssey that, as you guys have been saying, i mean, the political establishment, the media establishment, virtual hi no one thought donald trump could pull this off running against the governors and senators and pillars of that much-reviled gop establishment. so it is a moment to say, hey, he did pull it off. and now, can he unify the party? some of his actions in the last 24-48 hours raising some questions about that. bill: i think, you know, within the media there had been an assumption for more than a month, howie -- i think you'd agree with this -- that he would be the nominee. >> oh -- bill: so would the coverage
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change in any way now? >> will it change now? no. i think that up until the time donald trump won indiana, cruz bows out, kasich bows out, there were still a lot of people in the press who were kind of in a tate of shock, some would say denial, thinking about various scenarios where this would go to this contested convention in cleveland that we were all really excited about but which is not going to happen. i cothink it -- i do think it perhaps underscores the fact that now that we're done playing games, donald trump is really the unofficial republican nominee. how much does it matter they went out and unnecessarily whacked governor martinez in new mexico the other day? how much does it matter that paul ryan is not onboard? be in other words, he's got the delegates, but can he win over the rank and file of the republican party, or is it really just the leaders and the politicians who are -- bill: fair question. i imagine, i imagine it'll be a
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trickle for the next month and a half. we shall see. 303 delegates on the line on june 7th, by the way. howie, stand by. we're going to come back in a couple minutes. with we actually brought you on to discuss that, so stand by for that in d.c. martha: more on the trump news in just a moment. plus, we want to bring you this story. devastating tornadoes. have you seen these unbelievable pictures? a destructive twister, this one half a mile wide ripped through a town and tore people's lives apart. >> we've got up to 20 or more homes that have been damaged, some that are completely no longer in existence. pleasure think fixing your windshield is a big hassle?
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bill: breaking news on the campaign, as we mentioned a moment ago. donald trumps has clinched the number of delegates needed to clinch the nomination. 127 was needed -- 1237 was needed, he has been, right now, at 1238.
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here's how the associated press says a small number of the unbound delegates, you know, you have 54 in pennsylvania. so they canvassed those delegates and perhaps in some other states as well, and today the ap reports that will give him enough support come convention time in cleveland, ohio. you still have more contests, too, so he's going to get more votes. he's already set the record for the republican primary. on june 7th, in fact. and he will get more delegates. this will not be a contest, so to speak. he'll be well above 1237. martha: yep. an amazing political story this election has been, and it continues. but today a big marker in that journey. so let's go to this now as the cleanup begins this morning after a monster tornado tore through a rural area in northern kansas. >> [bleep] it's going right for these people's houses though. yeah, i don't blame you, dog, it's time to go! it's time to go [bleep] getting bigger. oh [bleep] i think that was
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somebody's house. martha: he was right there, because as many as 25 homes were taken up by this thing, damaged and ripped apart by this twister. the it was on the ground for an hour and a half. imagine what that's like. at times it was half a mile wide. maria molina is an expert now in these things, and she is on the ground once again, this time in abilene, kansas, where people are trying to figure out what happened, right, maria? >> reporter: yeah, that's right, martha. we're a few miles north of abilene, kansas, in the rural part of town, and the tornado spared the town center there and also spared another town to the east of here, chapman, kansas. so it still caused significant damage across surrounding areas, and as you can see behind me, we have complete destruction of what appears to have been a home. and, i mean, this tornado was so violent that it tore apart what
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looks to be concrete blocks. you have brick. this tornado actually brought down this entire structure, and like you mentioned, it was estimated to be about a half mile wide at times. and there are reports that it stayed on the ground for as much as 23 miles. so a very dangerous situation out here yesterday and, unfortunately, the forecast calls for more extreme weather today as well. but i want to pan farther off across the road here as well so you can take a look at just how much of a close call this particular home took here. the roof did suffer some extensive damage, a shed just behind it completely destroyed by this tornado. so, again, it was a very violent situation with this storm ripping through this area yesterday throughout the evening hours, and it stayed on the ground miles east of this location. now, as we head into later on this afternoon, we do have the potential for additional severe weather including right here in eastern portions of kansas, also extending into parts of nebraska. that's really the corridor where we're looking at the greatest threat for tornadoes up through this afternoon.
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other areas farther south across texas could be looking at viability weather and even extending farther north and east of our location. we'll keep you updated, martha. stay safe out here, everyone from texas, up into portions of the midwest. martha: pay attention to what's going on around you, because they're coming, and you never know exactly where. maria, thank you very much. bill: about 22 minutes now before the hour. want to bring back howie kurtz, our media analyst. we brought you on to talk about this documentary that's hosted by katie couric, it's called "under the gun," it examines gun policy in america today. i'm going to play two clips, then we'll get reaction from the show's producer. the first question she asks, there's a rather long pause that follows. listen to that first, and then we'll frame it in context. >> if there are no background checks for gun purchasers, how do you prevent felons or terrorists from purchasing a gun?
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bill: so you notice there a long pause. i believe the way it plays out it was nine seconds in length. >> stunning pause. bill: this is, however, howie, how it actually went with the question and answer. >> how do you prevent felons or terrorists from walking into, say, a licensed gun dealer and purchasing a gun? >> well, one, if you're not in jail, you should still have your basic rights. >> so if you're a terrorist or a felon -- >> if you've done time, you should have your rights. >> the fact is we do have statutes both at the federal and state level that prohibit classes of people from being in possession of firearms. bill: you said it was stunning silence. the only problem was the silence wasn't real. it was edited. the producer said about that: my intention was to provide a pause for the viewer to have a moment to consider this important question before presenting the
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facts on americans' opinions on background checks. i never intended to make anyone look bad, and i apologize if anyone felt that way, end quote. in your experience, is that how it's done, howie? >> that is absolutely not how it is done. that kind of distorted editing would be against the rules in any network news division. that non-apology doesn't nearly go far enough because what you just saw, what the audience just saw is that it looked like katie couric's question left the members of this gun rights group not just stunned, but kind of deer in the headlights, doesn't know what to say. and in reality as we heard from the audio, they had plenty to say. katie couric has issued her own statement saying she is proud of the film. but that moment is backfiring bigtime and starting to cause a backlash. bill: have you spoken to her? >> i've had contact with her people, and i've asked to speak to her, but so far we just have the statement of her standing by her director. i understand she tried to
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include the views of those who might have a different view of background checks. i did, however, speak with the president of the virginia citizens defense league whose members you saw in that clip, and he was there at the taping. and he told me this whole thing is a nightmare, in his view. he said it was a total deception, that when he saw what katie couric did, he was in disbelief. bill: you called it a distortion. it is, howie. >> there is no other word to describe it. and when i first saw this, i thoughting -- i felt pretty confident that when this came to the attention of the producers and katie couric they would say, yes, this was a mistake, we are sorry, we regret this, and we're going to fix this. instead, i'm sorry if anybody was offended, they're kind of digging in. this is not a close call, this is not a question of, well, how much time did their views get. the rest of the documentary might be fine. but when you do this, you are blowing a hole in the credibility of your work, and i
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just don't think it can be defended. bill: damaging the product too. we'll see if an apology comes or not. howard kurtz there in washington. thank you, sir. martha: so no apology from the head of veterans affairs after he compared wait times for medical care to lines at disneyland. will his recent clarification be enough to save his job? bill: all right, he may not end up a champion, but he's winning the hearts of everyone at the national spelling bee. go for it. martha: oh, so cute. good for him. ♪ ♪ you're late for work.
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and take a look at your screen. 1238, according to the unbound delegates who now say they are committed and that they are with trump when it comes to the convention this summer. big, big news in the history of this election. iowa senator joni ernst is a republican, and she is on the armed services and homeland security committee, very important committee positions, and she joins us now. senator, good morning. good to have you with us today. >> thank you, martha. great to be with you. martha: talk to me about this news. donald trump is now the nominee according to the number of delegates that he has secured. are you happy about that? >> i am happy. he has been the presumptive nominee for a very long time, is and we're glad to see that he has clinched those delegates. and now we can unify the party, bring folks together and push forward to thatjuly convention. and i think you will see a great deal of unity in the republican party while the democratic party is still struggling through these issues. martha: a lot of people have had reservations along the way. have you had reservations?
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and if so, what changed your mind? >> what i have seen is a wonderful field of candidates on the gop side, and so everybody has their strengths. we need to work a little more on policies, but overall i am excited about trump candidacy because he is bringing so many new voters into the party. we have non-registered party folks out there that are really excited about his promise to make america first. and so i look forward to that. i'm anxious to see how he works forward in the next several months to clinch the presidency. martha: there's a bloomberg poll this morning that said that 66% of the respondents say that they're very concerned about the language that he's used in the past about women. how, how do you feel about the words that he's used and some of these things that have come up? >> i think there are a number of issues which he has really used
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to inflame people, really get them excited out there. and so i would like to focus more so on his policy. and we have seen within his own organization where he does have very strong women working in private industry. so i know that he appreciates the role that women play throughout his organization, and i'm excited to see that come to fruition as he moves into the presidency. martha: senator, your name has come up more than once on a list of potential vice presidential picks. would you say yes if he asked you? >> well, i am very, very focused on iowa right now. i'm engaged in a 99-county tour across my state. i'm just very focused on what iowans want to see as far as my work as a united states s.t.a.r.t. -- senator. martha: have you been approached or vetted in any way? >> martha, i have not been approached, so i don't want to dwell on the hypotheticals. i'm just going to stay focused on iowa. martha: all right. a lot of potential vp candidates saying pretty much the same
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thing. i want to ask you a question about bob mcdonald, because i know you have been very forceful as a veteran yourself in calling for his reservation. do you think you're going to get that? >> i don't know that we will see that. i would love to the see the president step up and support his veterans and say that robert mcdonald needs to go, ask for that resignation. his comments the other evening in reference to robert mcdonald comparing our wait times for our veterans within the v.a. health care system to disneyland was very, very discouraging. and if that's the type of leadership that we have at the very top of this important organization, we can't expect that the managers and supervisors below him feel any different. martha: understood. i gotta go, but one more question. would you say if he resigns or if he, you know, had the capability, because he asked for the power from the white house to be able to fire people in the v.a., and he was not given that power. does the next person potentially have to have that in order to do the job? >> well, i think the person at
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the very top of the organization set the agenda for that organization. if there are wrongdoers in the organization, they need to know, the person at the top needs to have that authority. martha: yeah, okay. senator, thank you very much. a lot of breaking news. >> thank you, martha. martha: good to have you request request -- with us. bill: jon scott's coming up next, good morning. jon: the race for the white house heating up, president obama weighs in today as well saying foreign leaders were rattled by the prospect of donald trump as president. really? we are awaiting reaction from mr. trump. and hillary clinton under fire from trump and even other democrats over the e-mail controversy after a report from the state department inspector general slamming her moves. we will also talk today live with cal harris, the new york man just acquitted two days ago in his fourth trial for murdering his wife. what does he have to say today as an exonerated man? that's coming up, "happening now".
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bill: see you then, jon. ten minutes away. activism versus academics at a college in ohio. students asking the school to drop any grade below a c. my next guest says that idea should get an f. we searched billions of flight combinations to make getting here easy. because the hardest part of any trip, should be leaving. expedia. technology connecting you to what matters. looktry align probiotic.our digestive system?
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bill: asking for a pass on academics at ohio's overland college. students complain between protesting and justice and heavy coursework, they find hard to make the grade. they're asking the school to get rid of a midterm exam and any grade below a c. sterling beard, editor editor-if of campus reform. how you doing, sir? good morning to you. >> good morning. bill: i don't think this would fly at miami of ohio. would it fly where you went to school, sir? [laughter]
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>> well, i doubt it would fly at dartmouth college, although they've had their own share of protesting troubles in the past. look, this is oberlin college, a very liberal and progressive college, this is the sort of place where it might fly. as a matter of fact, decades ago they did accommodate students who were protesting the vietnam war and kent state shootings. students these days are in no danger of being drafted. they don't want to deal with the consequences of how they chose to spend their time. bill: one of the things they protested was the inauthenticity of food at the african heritage house? what's going on there? >> well, again, that's just one of the many things they're protesting. they're protesting the food at the african heritage house, the death of tamir rice from a police shooting. look, if there is nothing to protest, students will find things to protest about. what's next? i'm sure some student is going
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to complain that lucky charms is going to be inauthentic as well. these are the students who don't have enough things to worry about in their life, so they complain about anything they can. bill: one of the students said, you know, we're paying for a service -- i guess you are -- through tuition. we're paying for our attendance here. we need to be able to get what we need in a way we can actually consume it, end quote. brown university, they want to protest more and stay out of school less. in summary, this kind of kicked off at missouri about a week -- a year ago, right? when they were successful, that seemed to ignite other activism at over schools. -- at other schools. would you agree with that, sterling? >> i absolutely would. look, right now it's a fad to protest against white privilege or, you know, hetero-patriarchal capitalism. these students are managed to convince themselves that they are oppressed by nothing more than their own mad libs.
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martha: marked the daydown, the day donald trump made it over 1238 and essentially secures the nomination. let's talk about this with everybody . bill:we've got to roll p9 see you tomorrow . jon: we will take it from here. a major fallout from the state department report that was critical of hillary clinton's use of an email account as secretary of state state. i'm jon scott. heather: i'm heather childers in for jenna lee, great to be here. the 83 page rert

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