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not perfect as he acknowledged. humble in the end. a hero for humanity. another tells us ali was not just a great boxer but a master showman. his upset knockout shocked the world. thanks for joining us. i'm chris wallace. the general election is game on as clinton and trump rip into each other. >> donald trump's ideas aren't just different, they are dangerously incoherent. >> clinton said trump is unfit to be president. the gop's all but certain nominee fires back. >> hillary clinton has to go to jail, okay? she has to go to jail. [ cheers and applause ] >> today an exclusive interview with the head of the clinton campaign on the tight race against bernie sanders in california and her strategy for taking on trump. >> this isn't reality television. this is reality. >> john padusta only on fox news
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sunday. >> and trump calls out the media over his donations to veterans. >> on behalf of the vets the press should be ashamed. >> newt gingrich, a top trump supporter and possible running mate on the controversies and violent protests at trump rallies. plus, house speaker paul ryan finally backs trump. >> my goal is to make sure we are unified so we can win the election. >> we'll ask our if his endorsement matters and about the continued conservative push for a trump alternative. all right now on fox news sunday. hello again from fox news in washington. the november election is still five months away. we won't have official party nominees to the national conventions in july. but forget the formalities. the general election battle between donald trump and hillary
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clinton is on. in a few minutes we'll talk with one of trump's top supporters, potential running mate and former house speaker newt gingrich. but first clinton is looking to wrap up her primary battle with bernie sanders with a victory in california's primary tuesday. this weekend i spoke with the head of the clinton campaign, john pedesta. how important is california if bernie sanders wins there doesn't he have every good reason to go on to the democratic convention in july? >> well, california is important and that's why hillary is criss-crossing the state. and we are fighting to win here. the reality is she's gotten 3 million more votes than senator sanders and she has now 270 pledge delegate lead on him. we expect that to either be the same or maybe expand by a little bit. we have other elections over the weekend in virgin islands and puerto rico. we have new jersey and other states next tuesday.
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so we think we'll come out of tuesday night with the delegates we need for her to be the first woman nominee on a major party ticket in the united states. we are looking forward to that. >> i guess the key question is this. whether or not at that point whether he wins or loses california sanders should drop out. as you know there have been plenty of candidates over the years. ted kennedy, gary hart who have lost the nomination. their opponent clinched it. they stay in the race either to flip unbound delegates or try to push their policies. why shouldn't bernie sanders do it all the way to the convention? >> we are not telling bernie sanders what to do. he needs to make his own mind up about that. she'll have the delegates to be the nominee. we'll do what we can to reach out to appeal to his supporters, to appeal to his campaign and to him directly. we want to bring the party together because the country faces a major threat in donald
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trump. we hope he'll join us. he's been out there saying he wants to work seven days a week to stop donald trump. we hope that starting as soon as possible that he will go ahead and fulfill that commitment and work with us to make sure he's a successful candidate in november. >> let's turn to the general election. let me put up some numbers. the real clear politics average of recent national polls has clinton leading trump 43.8 to 42.3, well within the margin of error. in the swing state of florida clinton leads by just over two points in ohio. she leads by less than 1.5 points. question, if trump is unfit to be president, as clinton says, why is he running even with her in the national race and in the key swing states? >> well, look, chris. the general election is just
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coming into focus. i think that what we have seen over the last few weeks is that donald trump has been able to consolidate republicans including speaker ryan who said he would vote for him one day and had to explain why he disagreed with him when he attacked the ethnicity of a federal judge the next day. he has consolidated republicans. that's led to something of a tightening of the polls. this has just begun. that's why hillary clinton on thursday of this week went to san diego and really laid out a strong case about why he's unfit. why he doesn't meet the commander in chief test. what did she use to prove the point? the things he said in the campaign from being in favor of expanding and proliferating weapons of mass destruction ambassador nuclear weapons to pulling out of nato to offending our allies and supporting dictators around the world. >> john, let me --
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>> i think we are just getting engaged in this race. i think over -- you know, long term, i think people will come to see him as not having the temperament to serve as president and commander in chief. >> let me pick up on that. you are certainly right. clinton took trump apart on foreign policy this week. we'll play some of the clips for newt gingrich. he also has been going after her on foreign policy. here is somewhat what he's said about her. >> the libya invasion was disgusting. do you know who has the oil? isis has the oil. >> she mentions i will bring us to war. she wanted to go into iraq. >> she's one of the worst secretaries of state in the history of the country. >> trump may be a target-rich environment for clinton, but isn't clinton also a target-rich environment for trump? >> we'll take that fight any day.
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when president obama asked her to serve as secretary of state she did a terrific job, helped negotiate between russia and the united states and got votes in the united states senate to ratify that agreement. she projected american values across the globe. she did a deal to bring an end to hostilities, bring an end to the fighting between hamas and israel. she's got a strong record to stand on when it comes to the question of libya, which trump likes to raise. what were we faced with there? >> but -- >> gadhafi was about to slaughter thousands of his own citizens. we were asked by our nato allies, by the arab league to intervene. she recommended that intervention. >> let me -- >> we have to work at it. but it was the right decision at the time. >> look, we are not going to litigate each one of these in the brief interview. whether it was voting to go into
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iraq. whether it was agreeing with obama to pull all of our troops out of iraq. whether it was the intervention in libya which led to a failed state and the expansion of isis. whether it's benghazi or the reset in russia. i'm not saying you don't have answers but there will be plenty to criticize on her record, too. >> i think, you know, what he likes to do is demean and name-call. as i said, if we get into a serious debate about who has the values, experience, temperament to be commander in chief, that's a debate i'm sure we are going to win. i think, again, if you look at the things he says, they are incoherent and dangerous. >> then there is ethics. clinton went after trump this week on the delayed donation to the veterans. also on trump university and again we'll play those clips and
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ask newt gingrich about them. but trump also has gone after clinton on ethics. here he is. >> they were crooked with whitewater. they have been crooked from the beginning. you look at the foundation. it's pure theft and pure crookedness. she broke federal law by putting her e-mails on a secret, private server that foreign countries could easily get to and hack. >> again, i agree with you that trump will have plenty to answer for. given all of her issues, isn't it going to be hard for clinton to play the ethics card against trump? >> you know, i think the card we are going to play against trump is he's always been for himself. he's a self-aggrandizer at the expense of thousands of people. when it comes to trump university we learned even his own employees called it a fraudulent scheme, an uncredited institution. he built and milked elderly
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people, people who had small savings. they told people to max out their credit cards. when you look at hillary's record, she said for example on the e-mail question she said it was a mistake. she's apologized for it. we are trying to put it in context. look at trump's record as a business person, in terms of never making a positive difference for people. we'll match the lifetime offer effort trying to help women, children, families. >> trump said if the justice department doesn't insight on the e-mail he's going to ask his attorney general to look into the case. >> hillary clinton has to go to jail.
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>> obvious for the case to wrap up. be happy to talk to the department so it would wrap up. but we'll see more of what trump does. he tries to bully people, knock them down with bluster. we feel when all is said and done the positive direction she's offering. the ability to bring people together to create an economy that will work against the second class against his bluster we look forward to the fight. >> thank you for your time. please come back. >> i appreciate it chris. i'm happy to. >> up next, as clinton blisters
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a look outside the beltway at the california state capitol in sacramento just two days before the primary there. joining me now to discuss the escalating wharf oh words between clinton and trump is trump's potential runningmate and former house speaker newt gingrich. >> good to be back.
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>> clinton went after trump's temperament. he repeatedly accused the judge handling two trump university fraud lawsuit cases of bias. here he is. >> we are building a wall. he's mexican. he is giving us very unfair rulings that people can't even believe. >> are you comfortable with a potential president attacking a federal judge for his heritage? >> no. this is one of the worst mistakes trump has made. i think it is inexcusable. he has every right to criticize a judge and every right to say certain decisions aren't right. his attorneys can file to move the venue from the judge. this judge was born in indiana. he's an american, period. when you come to america you get to become an american. trump, who has grandparents who
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came to the u.s. should understand this as much as anybody. second to characterize -- if a liberal were to attack justice clarence thomas on the grounds that he's black we would all go crazy. every conservative would say it was wrong, it was racism. trump has to, i think, move to a new level. this is no longer the primaries. he is no longer an interesting contender. he is now the potential leader of the united states and has to move his game up to the level of being a potential leader. >> do you consider what he did here racism? >> i think it was a mistake. i think -- i hope it was sloppiness. he says on other occasions he has many mexican friends, et cetera. but that's irrelevant. the judge is an american citizen and deserves to be treated -- that means he can attack him as a judge, say he's a liberal against me, doing things.
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they should file a change of venue. >> trump also attacked the media for trying to ek which up whether or not he had promised donations to veterans groups. >> what i don't want is when i raise millions of dollars have people say like this sleazy guy here from abc. he's a sleaze. you know the facts well. >> now, you have been known to go after reporters including me. trump is literally kicking reporters whose coverage he doesn't like out of public rallies. can you understand why some conservatives worry whether or not trump understands the role of a free press and the first amendment? >> the thing that struck me, particularly after this event, fdr in the 1930s invented the fireside radio chat to get past the conservative newspapers. trump now has a big enough
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social media presence that he can take on most of the news media and it is a fair fight. i think part of what he's probably decided is he wants to be very aggressive to make sure his supporters routinely discount any kind of news media attack. >> that i can understand. kicking reporters out of rallies? >> that's silly. it doesn't get him very far. if he asked my advice i would say get used to having reporters around you that you don't like. that's part of being a public figure. >> hillary clinton went after his temperament, his fitness to be president. >> this is not someone who the codes. it is not hard to imagine donald trump leading us into a war just because somebody got under his very thin skin. imagine. donald trump sitting in the
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situation room making life or death decisions on behalf of the united states. >> when trump -- let's review the bidding here. attacks a judge for his heritage. when he kicks reporters out of open public rallies. when he attacks the republican governor of new mexico which you yourself said was destructive, doesn't that raise questions about his steadiness? >> of course it does. trump is at one of the most interesting turning points in american history. think of it this way. he won the nomination as a golfer. it was him. it was him. he made all the decisions and beat everybody. it's one of the most amazing marks in american history. now he's in a team sport like football. paul ryan, the speaker of the house has to know what trump is doing. mitch mcconnell, leader of the senate, has to know what trump is doing. republican governors have to relax and not worry about getting attacked.
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this is a fundamental change for trump. we have been amazed at the speed and growth, how fast he learns. i think he's now at a key turning point. hillary has a different problem. that's results rather than words. biggest story this week politically was 38,000 jobs created. the lowest number in five years. the biggest problem for hillary is her record. you raised it yourself earlier, not to pick on you. you said correctly libya is a disaster. the russian reset is absurd. syria is a mess. iraq is in the middle of a war. afghanistan is at war. somalia collapsed and we saw a somali alleged war criminal working at a security guard at dulles airport. there are enough things in the results zone hillary can't deal with. while she's winning on words the results are so bad. >> you talk about trump being at a turning point. you are, too.
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you have been a trump supporter and there is talk about you as a potential running mate. at some point don't you take stock? you have raised a lot of questions today. and say whether or not you can support this man. >> they can support her but she'll appoint left wing judges to move for a century into a world i don't believe in. the results of the foreign policy are a disaster. >> she is a much more flawed person. first of all, somebody who will not release speeches for which she got 250,000 dollars apiece, accusing trump of lack of transparency saws you chutzpah is at the core of the clinton model. >> he's got chutzpah, too. >> you will remember this. in 1908, as late as labor day. reagan had three, four days in a row that were a disaster.
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all of us for reagan are going, oh, my god, what will happen? they got their act together by mid september. they were on their way to one of the biggest victories in american history. >>. >> attacking clinton's ethics. both clintons in the 90s. the clinton foundation. the private e-mail servers. now she's going after him. take a look. >> it turns out it wasn't until the press shamed him that he actually made the donations he had promised. he's trying to scam america the way he scammed all the people at trump-u. >> just as i asked john podesta about clinton, won't it be hard for trump to play the ethics card against clinton. >> anyone who hasn't read clinton cash. >> this is about the clinton foundation. >> about the clinton foundation,
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deals, the state department. you have to love the degree to which hillary lives in an alternative universe in which nothing counts against what she says next. trump has a simple assignment. find five people willing to go on tv and say my life was improved. my income went up. on results he's always better than hillary on words she may be occasionally better. >> this week we saw the most violent protests yet against trump with brutal attacks. we have them up on screen. brutal attacks against trump supporters leaving rallies. clint clinton and the protests were organized by immigrants, not democrats. if these violent anti-trump rallies continue into the convention, into the fall how do you see it factoring into the
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campaign? >> the country will become enraged. go look at madison, wisconsin. there were huge demonstrations against elected governor scott walker. the elected legislature doing what they won the election on. if donald trump is serious about changing washington every employee federal union will be in the streets. the first thing you have to do to be serious is make it possible to fire corrupt, dishonest and -- >> you don't think there could be a backlash where people say trump is divisive. >> people see the american flag being burned. they don't sign with those burning the flag. it drives hillary and sanders in for a narrow box. i don't think that's sustainable. the american people will be repulsed by the idea that the hard left gets to dictate to the rest of us.
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>> you have said candid and tough things, critical things about trump today. do you ever say that to him? >> sure. >> are you that candid? >> yeah. the great thing about donald trump is he listens but he doesn't necessarily obey. i have to say as a former teacher. he's very open to direct conversation. he prefers people who are blunt and direct. he knows how big his ego is, how big a personality he is and that it takes a fair amount to break through. i'm very comfortable being as direct with trump as i am here. >> does he then go back and do it again? >> there are habits he has i don't agree with and tactics i don't agree with. but there have been occasions where it's actually had an impact. i feel like it's a very good relationship. i think he's a remarkable leader. i had no idea a year ago we would be where we are now. i think that's almost entirely a personal achievement.
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in alliance with the american people who are sick of the current system. >> mr. speaker, thank you for your time. good to talk with you, sir. up next our sunday group discusses paul ryan's endorsement of trump and the continuing effort to recruit a conservative alternative to donald trump. plus, what would you like to ask the panel about the impact a third party candidate would have on the race? just go to facebook or twitter @fox news sunday. we may use your question on the air.
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house speaker paul ryan explaining his decision to finally endorse donald trump for president. time for our sunday group. fox news senior police call analyst brit hume, karl rove and charles lane also from the washington post. >> i think it's fair to say ryan's support was tepid. there is no talk of campaigning together. he's called out trump for the attack on the judge in the trump university case. what does the endorsement mean for trump, for ryan and ryan's goal of trying to hold onto the
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house republican majority? >> it signifies is desire of republicans in politics to get behind trump. they are looking for an excuse, reason to do that. the next day he makes approximately make this is incendiary attack on this judge which clearly borders in the eyes of so many on outright racism. you heard newt gingrich say it. they are trying to move in trump's direction. they are locking up the nomination to use the time to build the case against hillary clinton and to bring this party behind him. he seems to be squandering the opportunity by these outbursts that come that are out of phase
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with the idea of unifying the party and making him an appealing character to a larger base. >> as we have been saying this week marks an unofficial start to the general election campaign with clinton turning her full fire on trump and trump firing back. here is a taste. >> i will leave it to the psychiatrist to explain his affection for tyrantyrants. >> do you believe hillary is presidential? this is not presidential material. >> who got the better of round one, chuck? >> wow, i think the press. we'll have a heck of a campaign to cover. listening to hillary's speech which was an extended attack on his fitness for commander in chief. it was effective in reminding people concerned about those things about those things. jeb bush tried to same tack. he labeled him the chaos candidate and talked about how
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dangerous he was and it fell flat. trump has a plausible rebut tall. he can say she says i'm dangerous? she voted to send us to iraq. that didn't pan out. he picked on the aspects of it. there is a huge increase in the temperature, the heat around the issues. i'm not sure either one of them made a lot of movement on the voters. what trump has is the temperament point. i expect more on the issue. >> then there was word this week that a writer for the national review named david french is actively, seriously considering an independent run for president as a conservative alternative to trump. if like me you had never heard of david french, here is a clip. >> do you know what happens when it's in the house of
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representatives, there are other options. republicans will take that. on facebook, is french willing to take responsibility for hillary or a socialist winning the election and sealing our fate for further decline of our nation? that's not a patriot. karl, who is david french and how do you answer lilly? >> he's a of wo human being, volunteered for service. >> constitutional scholar, joined the military in his 30s in order to serve in iraq. with all due respect to him, this is ridiculous. the deadline has passed to be on the ballot in texas as an independent candidate. how can a center right independent candidate claim to be serious if the deadline is
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passed to be on the second most populous state, the biggest red state in the country on the ballot. tomorrow at 5:00 you need to submit your name and 5,000 qualified signatures to be on the ballot in colorado. 19 days after that, you have to submit 90,000 names to be on the ballot in north carolina. there is no chance he'll be on the ballot. >> the suggestion he made and what we are hearing is he's not going to be the president but conceivably he wins a few states, throws it into the house of representatives and the house can decide. >> nobody on the ballot in just a few states will be taken seriously as a candidate. this is an electoral college situation. like ross perot got 19% of the vote he got zero electoral college votes. i don't want to say this is a fool's errand because this is a smart, able man. it is ridiculous. we ought to stop. >> when lilly said he'll give the election to hillary clinton?
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>> i'm not sure he'll get -- look, if you don't want hillary clinton and you don't want donald trump you have an alternative in the libertarian party on all 50 state ballots. i don't see where this is going. this won't be a way to get it to the house of representatives and cause something else to happen. this is not 1824 when we last went to the house of representatives. this is simply not going to happen. >> another development this week was the dramatic escalation in the protests against trump outside his rallies. attack on trump supporters as they left the rallies. we discussed this with speaker gingrich and hillary clinton denounced the violence. is her camp worried that as gingrich said this is going to have a backlash and it could help trump, not hurt him. >> yeah. she said she denounces it no matter where it came from. she denounced violence previously inside trump rallies,
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outside trump rallies. in this case no matter the origin she's denouncing anti-trump violence. i think they are concerned that there is a potential for it to look like it was orchestrated by democrats and those supporting -- more likely to support her. these groups outside, it's not totally clear who was protesting what. any time you have egg throwing being passed around on youtube, exactly. that draws unwanted attention to the kinds of voter outside who are protesting trump. it's not what they want. >> if the violent demonstrations continue and there is a reason to believe they will against trump and against his supporters, in cleveland at the convention during the general election campaign, what effect do you see it having? >> helps trump. >> do you agree with that it's 1968 and people are
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upset? >> it remains to be seen. >> can't rule it out. cleveland will have to be extremely intense in order to resist this kind of thing. it's so ugly, so unacceptable. to the extent it helps trump, it may make them say look at the stuff they stir up. if they think that way they were never going to vote for trump anyway. it helps but but nush how big of a factor it is. >> it makes him a sympathetic figure. i recommend the new york times get someone conversant in conversational spanish. they translate it as "tell donald trump to go to hell." having been in barrooms in south texas, the name of this is far more offensive than telling donald trump to go to hell. next time before they reprint the name of the rally in spanish on the front page they make certain what they have -- >> you're suggesting it was not all the news that's fit to
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print? >> it's less fit to print than you could imagine. >> we have to take a break here. when we come back, outrage grows over the state department's editing of a briefing about the iran nuclear deal. plus who ordered the official record to be doctors and why? let me know on facebook, twitter,@fox news sunday and use # fns. they brought this on themselves. now it's war, and i want them dead! the fleas and ticks? their whole gang. we can do that. only bravecto kills fleas & ticks for up to 12 weeks with one tasty chew. starts killing fleas in two hours and kills nearly 100% in under twelve. and it's fda approved. bravecto is for dogs 6 months of age or older. don't worry, princess, we'll settle the score. tonight we ride, with bravecto!! ask your vet about 12-week protection with bravecto.
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we are marching into the democratic convention with enormous mo ten um. -- momentum. and i believe we'll come marching out with the democratic
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nomination. >> bernie sanders saying he will continue his campaign beyond tuesday's primaries including the big prize at california but the senator is now in a dead heat with hillary clinton. we are back now with the panel. anne is our reporter in the field until net. what's our sense of what sanders will do and does it depend whether or not he lose there is? >> it changes slightly if he wins. he has a much stronger card to play to say even though hillary clinton is likely to declare victory more or less on tuesday. she'll probably go over the top before california with voting in new jersey. and be able to say i am now not only the democratic nominee defacto but the first woman to lead a major party in a national election. even as she says that, sanders
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will say and be telling his supporters to say not so fast. you don't actually have the full number of pledge delegates. he'll make some case for them to do that. this is about leverage. try to exact changes in policy and procedure. >> what does he want? >> everyone is asking that question. he wants procedural changes to the way they select a candidate. elizabeth warren said i'm a super delegate. he's going through on this point. he also wants to remain as leader of a social justice movement that extends beyond this election. he's making a case for it now. he'll be able to make a strong case for that assuming he gets a platform speech in july. >> how big a deal if on tuesday
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night she clinches the nomination. goes over the magic number of delegates how much does sanders hurt her if he stays in the race until philadelphia? >> well, i agree. she'll go over the top when new jersey is reporting at 5:00 pacific, 8:00 eastern. it will be interesting to see what happens in the two remaining hours of voting in california. do the clinton people say she's got it. i'm staying home and bernie's people turn out or do bernie's people say we have lost it and my sense is bernie's people turn out. what matters is not what he wants to get. it's what he doesn't -- he wants to claim he wants that he doesn't get. he wants to transform the democratic party. you don't do it by winning at this convention. ask for things you couldn't get to create resentment and
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longevity. he's clear about it. i want to transform america and the democratic party. how many points of friction will he choose in philadelphia that he knows are not going to be accepted. get rid of the super delegates. you have 720 super delegates at the convention. they are super delegates. in order to get people a rallying point. >>. >> they have to refuse. this is a man, the democratic national convention of any sort he's attended. every office. mayor, u.s. congress, senate, his aborted run for governor. he's been defeated by a democrat. he doesn't care about the democratic party. he cares about the socialist movement to leave in place to move the party to the left and move america.
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>> i want to turn to other news this week. we learned the fact that someone unknown at the state department scrubbed the video of an official briefing about the iran nuclear deal. in february 2013 a spokesman denied there were secret talks between the u.s. and iran. that december when it turned out there were talks james rosen had this exchange with another spokesman. >> is it the policy of the state department where the preservation of the secrecy of secret negotiations is concerned to lie in order to achieve the goal? >> james, i think there are times when diplomacy needs privacy in order to progress. this is a good example of that. >> james discovered recently that exchange had been deleted from the video record. they keep a record of every briefing they do. the first explanation was
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because of a technical glitch. that's the reason they used. the state department said someone still unknown ordered that eight minutes of the tape be deleted. how big a deal? >> there is a deal inside washington. i would say lots of people across the board are upset about what this says about the integrity of the state department. john kerry himself said it is a big deal and whoever did it shouldn't be working for me anymore. there is a formality to the state department briefing. it is the official word of the u.s. government and the idea it could be tinkered with for a still unknown political or diplomatic reason. there is a memory hole at the state department that's disconcerting. what we are left with is an even bigger mystery. if it is an outrage even in view of the secretary of state himself, why can't they get to the bottom of it. if it all went on within the four walls of foggy bottom it
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should be simple to know who made the phone calls and who pressed the button. so far admiral kirby said -- >> chief spokesman for kirby. >> correct. he said we have gotten this far and no further. it didn't violate rules. >> case closed. >> i don't think they can stop it there. >> i want to pick up on that with you. they are saying that, we have gotten as far as we can. we'll stop and look -- move forward. there are congressional republicans who are demanding more. they want records. they were also saying the state department's inspector general should investigate. is this political or is there a legitimate concern here? >> it's political and there is a legitimate concern. >> yes and yes. chuck suggested there is an unknown purpose to the deletion. i think there is a known purpose. basically what jen socke said is
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it is the policy or practice of the state department at certain times to lie if necessary to protect secret undertakings. someone thought that ought not be on the historical record. and decided to delete it. got caught. now the person who apparently got the request said, i don't remember who that was, who asked me to do that. i don't believe that. i think this is something that their line of defense will not hold. an investigation will go forward. there is at least a good chance we'll find out who did it. >> and jen has flatly categorically denied she had anything to do with it. >> that's true. she also went on to attack james rosen personal le for allegedly attacking her character. to my knowledge and i have looked at what he said, he never did that. i don't know what she's talking about. that raises a question about her credibility. >> as someone who worked in
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government for six years in the white house, how does a state department official come to call a technician and say delete eight minutes of an official video of a public state department briefing. >> either an idiot at the white house demands it happen or you fill the ranks of the state department with political hacks whose interest is not in the representation of the united states record but the protection of the secretary of state. i don't know who did what. it is reminiscent of the soviet era when you fell out of favor with stallen. they erased you out of the photographs. chuck mentioned the memory hole. winston smith and the ministry of truth took all the documents and put them, shredded them in essence by removing them from the public record. they better be serious about finding who did this and holding them responsible.
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>> do you think they will be able to hold the line? well, we are going forward. >> they shouldn't be able to. they should be held to account. this is reprehensible, a destruction of the public record. >> up next, surprising advice for the class of 2016 from our power players of the week and reflections on the life of muhammed ali. fl audi pilotless vehicles have conquered highways, mountains, and racetracks. and now much of that same advanced technology is found in the new audi a4. with one notable difference... the all-new audi a4, with available traffic jam assist.
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. it's become an annual tradition to sample the words of wisdom college graduates get at commencement. this year the speakers include political figures, a super bowl-winning quarterback and the hottest star on broadway. they are all our power players of the week. ♪ >> when you find your passion it's yours. not what someone else thinks it should be. there is no earthly reason that a black girl from birmingham, alabama, should be a soviet specialist. that's what i wanted to be. don't let anyone else define your passion for you. because of your gender or the color of your skin. >> if you are dating a woman way out of your league, ask her to marry you. if you can throw a football 80 yards, for some reason people
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think that's pretty cool. if you are playing new england patriots in the super bowl and you have 26 seconds left and you're down by four and it's second and goal on their one yard line, try not to throw an interception. >> james's death changed me in profound ways. i learned about the depths of sadness and brutality of loss. i also learned when life sucks you under, you can kick against the bottom, find the surface and breathe again. >> if you disagree with somebody, bring them in and ask them tough questions. hold their feet to the fire. make them defend their position. by doing so you will strengthen your own position. you will hone your arguments. maybe you will learn something and realize you don't know everything. >> i know a lot of you today are thinking what am i going to do? let me tell you something. you can think about that tomorrow, next week and next
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year. what you can't think about right here, right now is who do you want to be? >> in a year when politicians traffic it in anti-immigrant rhetoric, there is also a broadway musical reminding us that a broke orphaned immigrant from the west indes built our financial system. a story that reminds us of the great unfinished symphony that's the american experiment time and again emigrants get the job done. >> the real danger is all the smoke that's been blown up your graduation gowns about how fr k freaking smart you are. well, you are that smart. but don't believe the hype that's thrown at you. >> the great philosopher benjamin affleck once said judge me by how good my good ideas are, not how bad my bad ideas are. you have to suit up in army and
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sound like a fool. not having an answer isn't embarrassing it is an opportunity. >> i hope you outrun the t-rex, catch the criminal and for your parents' sake, maybe every now and then just like e.t., go home. >> and our best wishes as well to the students and parents of the class of 2016. now this program note. be sure to tune to fox news channel on tuesday for all day election coverage. six states including california head to the polls. finally, a word about muhammed ali. people under a certain age won't fully understand but there was a time in the '60s and '70s when he was the most famous person on the planet and the most controversial person in this country. his talent as a fighter was incandescent. no one had seen a big man as
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graceful and quick. it was his fighting outside the ring that set him apart. his conversion to islam. his refusal to fight in vietnam. you could agree or disagree but he walked his path, not ours. i had the great fortune to interview him. he was funny, smart and gracious. my lasting memory is from 19196 when he lit the flame to start the olympics in atlanta. his once beautiful body riddled with parkinson's. he struggled with a torch and a fire burned his arm. he was going to finish the fight. in the end this man who was once hated by many americans became a symbol of the diversity, turbulence and resilience of the great nation. each of us has to decide if he was the greatest. there is no question he was a giant. that's it for today. have a great week. we'll see you next fox news
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sunday. welcome to this special edition of the journal editorial report as we count down to the final primaries of the 2016 campaign season. i'm paul gigot. all eyes are on california this weekend. democrats hillary clinton and bernie sanders are locked in a tight race. with just two points separating them in the latest "wall street journal" poll. clinton cancelled events this week to head to the golden state. something her opponent made note of in a rally in palo alto. >> i read the "new york times" and the other papers. they said the campaign is over. then i saw

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