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...you must be gerry. hey... in means getting more from your car insurance with the all-powerful drivewise app. it's good to be in, good hands. continuing with fox's alert on what president obama has called an act of terror and an act of hate. now the radical islamic terrorists of isis issuing their own statement. they take responsibility. as our coverage of the travesty in orlando, florida, continues this afternoon here in america's election headquarters. thank you for staying with us. >> it was a horrific scene at the pulse nightclub where a gunman -- this man seen here -- allegedly shouting allahu akbar as he opened fire on the crowd, killing 50 people and injuring dozens more before dying in the exchange of gunfire with officers. it is the deadliest massacre in u.s. history, modern u.s.
history, and the fbi is looking for ties to the islamic state. governor rick scott of florida is very clear on what kind of act he thinks it is. >> this is clearly an act of terrorism. it's sickening. it should make every american angry. >> peter ducey is live at the scene in orlando with the latest. peter? >> reporter: and the latest just in the last two minutes. i spoke to a state representative who has been in touch with some of the officials who have been inside pulse nightclub today, and this is hard to hear. but as all of these -- as many of the 50 dead clubgoers still lay there and notification of next of kin is in process, their cell phones are still ringing at this hour. so the shooting happened 12
hours ago. the investigation has begun, but as they take these bodies out of the nightclub, their cell phones are still ringing, and it's a lot of parents and brothers and sisters and friends trying and calling to get in touch with their loved ones. but obviously trying in veiain. we're also hearing facebook has set up for the first time in the united states, has set up their safety check feature, which is something we've only ever seen after devastating earthquakes or natural disasters abroad. it's something where users in the orlando area can go onto facebook and check that they are safe. that goes to speak about the scale, the true -- the devastation. 50 people dead, 53 others hurt, and how widespread it is here in orlando.
now, we just heard from the fbi. they said this person who did pledge allegiance to isis or to the islamic state today was not under investigation, and he was not under surveillance even though the fbi was in contact with him twice in the last three years. listen to this. >> the fbi first became aware of mateen in 2013 when he made inflammatory comments to co-workers, alleging possible terrorist ties. the fbi thoroughly investigated the matter, including interviews of witnesses, physical surveillance, and records checks. in the course of the investigation, mateen was interviewed twice. ultimately we were unable to verify the substance of his comments, and the investigation was closed. >> the weapons used in the attack were bought in the last week legally by mateen here in florida. it was a rifle and a long gun.
as i mentioned earlier, the process of notifying the next of kin of the people who were killed with those weapons between 2:00 and 5:00 this morning on a street just about a block and a half behind us is in process. and here in orange county, florida, we are in a state of emergency declared by governor rick scott this afternoon. >> it's unthinkable, peter. you mentioned that facebook is allowing folks to go on and confirm that they're safe or no. i want to remind people, if you stay with me, peter, that earlier buddy dyer, the mayor of orlando, issued an information hotline, a local number for citizens to call and check on their loved ones and get updates as much as available. that number is 407-246-4357. again, it's 407-246-4357. as you said, peter, this is just unthinkable. peter doocy, thank you so much.
>> area hospitals in orlando are in crisis mode to deal with the injured. the public also pitching in and rolling up their sleeves to donated the much needed blood. dave hair i began is live with the latest on that effort. it's been an inspiring reassuring scene as people line up to donate blood for those who are injured. >> reporter: eric, it's really been an overwhelming response from the people of orlando, lining up in 90-degree heat waiting for hours. blood banks say they're overwhelmed by the response. the trauma hospital here behind me, the level 1 trauma hospital, the only one in central florida, is less than a mile away from the scene of that carnage, and it was here that the first victims began to arrive just after 2:00 a.m. those victims, most of them had wounds from an assault rifle. terrible wounds to the torso, to the abdomen, and to the limbs. 44 different patients, all adults, were admitted here. of those 44, nine dies from
their severe wounds. the trauma surgeons -- there was one on duty initially, but as they kept seeing the scope of the carnage, they called more in. eventually there were six who z operations at least since this morning. we're getting more details from inside the club during that three-hour siege before the s.w.a.t. team breached the door and broke in and rescued 30 different hostages. one man standing near the bar at the time of the firing by the suspect said that he had a steady pop, pop, pop. he thought initially it was part of the show until he saw people around him start to drop, and he was able to run out a back door. other people were not so fortunate. a lot of people who were jammed or stuck in one of the bathrooms were texting or calling police or family members, and we have an account from one woman, a mother, of a 30-year-old young man who was inside the club, who was actually texting with her during the shooting. here's what she had to say. >> he said he didn't want to
look at the man because he might look and get shot. so i told him to hang up and text. so we was asking him questions. you know, is everybody all right? he said, no, people are hurt. and then he said he has her and he's going to kill her, and that was it. >> reporter: it's hard to imagine the terror and uncertainty that that woman is growing through. she received a last text from her 30-year-old son, a text which read, he's come, i'm going to die. that was from 30-year-old eddie, whose fate at this point is still unknown. >> that is so hard. our prayers and thoughts certainly go out to her and eddie's family, especially since his state right now is unknown after texting that to his mother. stephen, thank you so much. >> okay. we're reporting disturbing new details about omar mateen now coming to light after law enforcement confirming he was known to the fbi, interviewed twice.
but apparently there was not enough evidence to arrest him on any terrorism-related charges. chief intelligence correspondent katherine herage live in washington. what more can you tell us? >> as we've been reporting since early today here at fox news, the suspect in the orlando shooting was known to the fbi as recently as 2013, and we had that confirmed at the news conference. he made commentsala alarming to his co-work easy. they investigated and were not able to substantiate. there was a second incident in 2014. what's happened, though, in the last couple of hours is a claim of responsibility by the isis media cite, and in my personal experience and those who work in the government have found, that they have not seen a claim of responsibility by isis for an attack unless they had some kind of role in the direction of the
attack. what we're told right now is that this is a very active threat of the investigation that's being pursued by the fbi as well as the national counterterrorism center. a short time ago i spoke to the chairman of the senate intelligence committee, who has received regular briefings on the shooting in orlando. >> i think this one has all the hallmarks of some type of direction from a terrorist organization. the reality is that only through this investigation will we find the digital footprint that we need to make the connection to a specific isil member or to a specific cell, and i'm confident that in the next 42 to 72 hours, we'll discover that. >> the president had a briefing in person with the fbi director at the white house this morning. the secretary of homeland security is no longer traveling to china as had been previously scheduled. he's remaining in washington, d.c. and as you've been reporting, the attorney general, loretta
lynch is returning to washington, d.c. just to give you context, this really tells you that this is a tier 1. this is an immediate high priority event for this administration and all the key figures on that national security team who are dealing with domestic terrorism, which is what the president called at that news conference at the white house today. arthell. >> katherine herridge. >> president obama addressing the nation earlier today as katherine said, describing the shooting as an act of terror and an act of hate. kristen fisher was there at the white house when the president addressed the nation. kristen, some now pointing out the president, as has been his custom in the aftermath of attacks, refrains from using the words radical islamic terrorist. >> that's right. in fact he never mentioned the word islam at all during his speech today. he said we know enough to say that this was an act of terror, but he never mentioned the words
islam or islamic terrorism. now, president obama did mention gun control. he didn't speak about it as forcefully as he has after previous mass shootings, but he did bring it up. >> this massacre is therefore a further reminder of how easy it is for someone to get their hands on a weapon that lets them shoot people in a school or in a house of worship or a movie theater or in a nightclub. and we have to decide if that's the kind of country we want to be and to actively do nothing is a decision as well. >> reporter: after the president spoke, the flags here at the white house were lowered to half staff, a mark of respect for the 50 people killed at this nightclub in orlando. today president obama described that club as a place of solidarity and empowerment, a place where the lgbt community could come together to advocate for civil rights. so today president obama is calling this an act of hate as well as an act of terror.
eric. >> and, kristin, what is he directing the national security team to do now? >> reporter: well, president obama actually walked into this briefing right after meeting with his national security team and fbi director james comey. he says that he has directed them to spare no effort to determine what if any inspiration or association the shooter might have had with terror groups. at the same time, though, president obama made it very clear that he believes the precise motivations of this shooter are still unknown. eric. >> kristin, thank you so much. >> eric, on that note, i wanted to let everybody know we're just getting word from the white house, from the pool there, saying that in light of the attack in orlando, the president's travel to green bay, wisconsin, scheduled for wednesday has been postponestpo. the president not going on the campaign trail for hillary clinton at this moment. when we come back, we'll talk about this. what's being done right now on the ground, in orlando, and in washington as authorities
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morning's massacre in orlando, with both donald trump and hillary clinton. also just moments ago, the president announcing he will not travel to wisconsin for a hillary clinton campaign event. that was supposed to happen, i believe, on wednesday. >> reporter: arthel, donald trump was the first of the candidates to weigh in, tweeting earlier this morning and throughout the day. around noon, he tweeted, horrific incident in florida. praying for all the victims and their families. when will this stop? when will we get tough, smart, and vigilant? an hour later he responded to reporter easy who were con2k3wr59 lating him. appreciate the congrats for being right on razz cal islamible terrorism. i don't want congrants. i want toughness and vigilant. we must be smart. then a couple of minutes before president obama addressed the nation, trump tweeted, is trump
going to finally mention the words radical islamic terrorism? if he doesn't, he should immediately resign in disgrace. in a statement this afternoon, hillary clinton did not use those words, radical islamic terrorism. she called it an act of terror and an act of hate that shows we need to redouble our efforts to. that means defeating international terror groups, working with allies to go after them, koufrnterring their attempts to recruit people here and everywhere. finally we need to keep guns like the ones used last night out of the hands of criminals. bernie sanders focuses on gun control and didn't even mention terrorism. >> it's horrific. it's unthinkable, and our hopes go out to all those who were shot that they can recover. and i got to tell you, you know, 25 years ago i believed that in this country we should not be
selling automatic weapons which are designs to kill people. >> libertarian candidate gary johnson said in a statement this afternoon that right now is not the time to poe lit size or jump to conclusions, and he said our thoughts should be with the victims. arthel. >> the heartbreaking reality of those families who have suddenly lost loved ones is indeed at the forefront of our hearts and minds. garrett tenny, thank you. >> reporte . now this suspect interviewed by the fbi, investigated twice, but not enough evidence to arrest him. so what steps should the government take to keep us safe? ambassador james rosily jo wool us. he's former director of the cia. ambassador, omar mateen, i think he vividly demonstrates the overwhelming challenges we face. he's on the radar. he's interviewed for supposed radical comments. another investigation for a possible connection to a suicide
bomber. not under investigation now, not under surveillance, yet he still carried this out. what could have been done? what do we do to prevent the next one? >> i think one thing that needs to be done is the gay and lesbian community needs to realize that they have no better friend than the average heterosexual american who is law-abiding and might not like the supreme court decision on single-sex marriage but is willing to observe it. those are their friends. the enemies are the islamist terrorists. the jihadis hate gay people of all kinds, loathe them, think they should diaz soe as soon as possible. that's why they attacked a gay and lesbian bar. somehow we have to get across the idea that this is a different kind of threat than we've faced before, but the
islamists are at least as ideological as the nazis. somewhat divide yolg, but they are effectively their own kind of nazi. >> and least as ideological as the nazis. you hit it right on the head with that. i mean, look, as we know, isis throws homosexuals off the roads of buildings. local television station in orlando reporting that two months ago, an imam that said under sharia islamic law, it's acceptable to kill homosexuals. >> and kill your daughter if she walks with the boy next door down to the corner to get an ice cream cone. there are lots of things in sharia that are really to most of us quite appalling. >> so how do we face this, and how do we prevent this, or is it even possible when you've got this insidious strain continuing and in some corridors only growing in our country, when we're told about 400 americans
went to syria and maybe at least 25 or more have returned, let alone the sympathizers and believers who are on the internet looking at this stuff? >> the key people in this are the real moderate muslims. i don't mean just muslims that don't like violence but still want to take over the government. i mean real moderate muslims. people like -- well, the most amazing one i knew was the late al doe ram inwa hi, the former president of indonesia. i knew him only slightly, but he was an amazing man. after he was president, he formed a group called lib for all. he would travel around renting soccer stadiums and putting on concerts with indonesia's leading rock star and teach the kids words to songs that they were writing about religious liberty. he'd go on and pay for it himself and do it the next night at another football stadium in indonesia. there are muslims like this, and we need to work with them and be
their friend, and they need friends. >> and finally you would like to see this happen here because there's got to be a voice within the community to speak out against this powerfully. >> it's tough here because of the traditions and culture and history and reasons we don't have time to go into right now. but it has to be done. we really, really have to help when they ask for it. the real moderate muslims and do everything we can to help them prevail. >> absolutely. ambassador, thank you for your iran sig insights after this horrific carnage we witnessed last night. >> powerful eyewitness accounts from inside the nightclub where the horror unfolded. >> all of a sudden we heard boom, boom, and we thought it was like the stereo. we're like, oh, my goodness, something went on with just the
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with humira, remission is possible. fox news' continuing coverage of the nightclub massacre continues. omar mateen held hostages and the survivors are describing the horror inside that nightclub during the horrendous attack. >> reporter: today about the survivors and the victims and for many parents, families and friends, the nightmare today continues to unfold. victims fighting for their lives in area hospitals. others hoping against home their missing loved ones are not among the at least 50 dead. the night began as latin night at pulse nightclub when at 2:02 a.m., the suspect shot at a police officer at the front door before firing at the crowd inside with more than 300 people inside the club, including christopher hansen, who crawled out alive.
>> the person i was with was shot in the back. i took my bandanna off and put it in the bullet hole in his back so that he wasn't bleeding. he was bleeding so bad, his whole pant leg was red. it was soaked. it was just -- my hands were just covered, and i didn't know what to do but just stand there and tell him to be strong. >> on facebook, pulse nightclub posting shortly after 2:00 a.m., everyone get out of pulse and keep running. over the next three hours, gunfire can be heard as police and ambulances rushed to the scene. >> right now we have active fired shots outside. >> oh, my god, people are getting shot, dude. >> get out of here. >> oh, my god, dude. >> the gunman taking 30 hostages before the s.w.a.t. team barged in, killing the gunman and saving lives. but outside the club, relatives horrifically waited on word from their loved ones. mina justice was trying to contact her 30-year-old son,
eddie. he told her he ran into the bathroom to hide and texted her. he's coming, he said. he has us and he's in here with us, he texted. >> we don't know. he was in the women's bathroom with the hostage. >> how did you find out? >> he was texting me and calling me. >> what did he tell you exactly? >> that the shooter had them in the women's bathroom hostage, and he's going to die. >> she and other families are still waiting word on their loved ones, and the city of orlando has released the names of the first victim who's have been positively identified and whose next of kin have been notified. those victims are edward soto my i don't remember junior, stanley almodovar 3/, luis omar -- that list will grow longer and longer has the day progresses and the list will be updated at city of
orlando.net slash victims and you can continue to go there for those names. >> the nation's hearts and prayers this hour are with them and their families. >> eric and brian, as we learn more about survivors, we take a closer look at the emergency response to the shooting. s.w.a.t. officers killing the gunman, who opened fire with an assault rifle inside the crowded nightclub. there is a picture. law enforcement identifying this man here seen on your screen as 29-year-old omar mateen, a u.s. citizen living in port st. lucie, florida. let's bring in now steve rogers. he's a former member of the fbi's joint terrorism task force and a retired detechtive in the nutley, new jersey, police department. mr. rogers, so good to have you here. an unfortunate story we're covering. i want to start with, you know, this concern about what people are calling this. and i understand that you feel this is more about a label.
it's more than semantics. it's guidance on how to tackle the issue. >> yes. it's all about leadership, and it begins at the white house. the president of the united states refuses, has continuously refused to call this what it is, radical islamic terrorism. he is setting the tone. he treats this as a criminal justice issue. it should be treated as a national security issue. you have two presidential candidates who come out and tell us, well, it's about guns. it's about this. it's about that. at least to donald trump's credit, he came out and he hit it right on the nose. it's radical islamic terrorism. >> so when you call it that, how does it change how you tackle it? >> it changes the rules of engagement because now you're not dealing with a criminal element. you're dealing with what amounts to a military operation that's being conducted against this country. and i've spoken to people in the law enforcement community as well as the intel community, and they're concerned about that. we have to change the rules of engagement to defeat this enemy. >> and if you deem this a military operation, then how does that change in terms of the
information that's available to terrorism task force members as well as local authorities and tools? talk to us about that. how does it change? >> all right. the first thing we need to do, intelligence and information is key to prevention. so we have to give the nsa sweeping powers to do what they must do to defeat this enemy. that means, yes, we may have some people in the government surveillan surveilling on our phones and on our computers. i'm not worried about that, and i'm not sure you're worried about it. but there are people who are opposed to that. but my goodness, it's going to be 0 the blood of americans on our street or we're going to save lives. a strong military response should have been done a long time ago. we have the most powerful military in this world. we're not using it to defeat this enemy. thirdly, quip our police officers in local governments with the equipment and intelligence they need to defeat this enemy. >> tell me more about the equipment you're talking about that local officials, police,
need and also if this -- if you're suggesting to involve the military more, in what way are you talking about? here at home or abroad? >> not at all, first the military abroad. we have the power. we have the air power and unfortunately you might have to use ground troops. you go in and decapitate. we know where their command and control center is. when i hear reports that we're not going to bomb certain areas because we're afraid there's going to be collateral damage on something that's sacred to isis, that's ridiculous. that's one. use your military power, and use it decisively. secondly, regarding local law enforcement, we're telling the citizens of this country if you see something, say something. well, if they say something to local police, there are a lot of police officers that don't know what to do with that information. >> how do you train the local police officers? >> well, you have the fbi. you have a lot of intelligence agencies that could come to local police departments and train them. just like they do with domestic violence and other low-level crimes. now, where are you going to get the training? well, the united states congress, who should bear some of the burden of this mess, has
the ability to get that funding to local police departments. they fund everything else. how about funding training for local police departments? and the reason why i say that is to your third point, what is the most important thing local police departments need? they're trained in weapons. they're trained in tactics. it's intelligence. intelligence and information is key to defeating this enemy. >> so really quickly because i have to go, but if this were deemed a military operation, that suggestion that you made, if that was already in place, what would have changed when they first came across this omar mateen person? >> massive unmerciful bombing of isis in the mideast. we haven't done that. we're not going to do it with this president but hopefully after january, it will get done. >> it's just really an unfortunate story, and that's really an understatement. it's really bothersome. former member of the fbi joint terrorism task force, retired detective steve rogers. thank you so much, sir. >> you're welcome. >> eric. >> arthel, it certainly appears
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there were 911 calls in which there was conversation between the subject and law enforcement representatives of 911 dispatchers. that has become federal evidence. i have not personally listened to them, but it was general to the islamic state. >> that's unbelievable. i mean the guy's in there shooting people, you know, holding people hostage in a terrorism attack, and he's on the phone calling 911, pledging allegiance tot islamic and yelling allahu akbar supposedly. that's exactly what authorities said happened during this three hours of intense carnage that occurred. eric stackle back joins us he's in washington, d.c. he is with christians united for
terrorism. you have warned this is right out of isis' playbook. you have said that isis wants to turn our cities into guerrilla war zones. we're seeing in orlando. we saw it in boston. we saw it in bernd. >> it's christians united for israel. this is the isis blueprint. as you said, what isis wants to do is carry out these attacks against soft targets in western cities on a regular basis. as you said, paris, brussels, sa bernd. tell aviv last week by the way hit also and now orlando as well. what isis wants to do is strike fear into the hearts of average americans, hit them where they live and where they breathe. and you can only imagine, eric, if you have a sustained period of attacks like we saw in orlando on a regular basis, not just once in a while, but on a regular basis, you could only imagine what it would do to america's psyche. this is what isis wants to do. they've made very clear that they want to do this on a regular basis, not just occasionally. and it seems that they are
acquiring the foot soldiers here in the west, according to fbi director james comey, they're in all 50 u.s. states. we have investigations ongoing into isis activity on american soil. there is the intent and it seems they're developing the foot soldiers here in the u.s. >> it is said there have been 400 americans that have gone to syria. you don't have to go to syria. you can just get on the internet. do they have to prove a specific link and communication with isis? for example, the fbi said they did interview him twice, once for some type of connection with an american suicide bomber. they said there was no, you know, direct evidence of that, so they dropped that. and they also interviewed him and closed the for his supposedly issuing radical islamic terrorist comments at work that his fellow co-workers, you know, went to authorities about, and nothing happened there either. >> yeah. eric, number one, that's troubling. we saw this in the boston bombings case. one of the brothers in that case had been questioned by the fbi, then released. we see it here again with the
orlando terrorist. look, isis is very clear. this is what they want to do, and you don't have to have a direct link to isis overseas. with the web now, with the internet, you can reach out and touch a jihadist half a world away. so what we have many times -- and we've had dozens of isis-related arrests here on u.s. soil. the numbers are increasing. many times these jihadists on american soil are self-radicalized. they just go on the web. they feed off the isis propaganda and they carry out these attacks with no direct hand from a terror group overseas. and isis -- and as a matter of fact, eric, cal qaeda before iss has called for this. it doesn't take a brain surgeon to walk into a shopping mall, yell allahu akbar and open fire. >> they can't arrest you just for your thoughts and comments. that's protected under the first amendment. >> well, look, i mean number one, if the thoughts and the comments are intent to murder
and maim, then i think the first amendment in that case doesn't really apply. if someone is saying online, facebook, twitter, et cetera, that they intend to kill people, i think you have a serious case there. i think it all goes back to what are these people saying online? this terrorist in orlando was monitored, questioned by the fbi twice. there was obviously some kind of trail of extremist statements, connections, and behavior there. major red flags. it's a real shame he slipped through the cracks and was able to carry out this horrific attack. >> finally, eric, something else that's incredibly glaring. he's got a weapons license because of his work at a security firm in florida that apparently is a contractor for federal buildings. so he could have been protecting, you know, the federal courthouse and the federal buildings. why didn't someone say, wait a minute. he's not convicted of anything. he was cleared. the investigations were closed. so he's not guilty.
but where would someone -- should someone have said, wait a minute. he got this investigation on one hand. why is he allowed to have guns on the other? >> right. i mean it's the fox guarding the hen house situation. look, who knows what he was saying on social media? those details are still emerging. it's reminiscent of what we see in paris right now where there are suspicions that islamic extremists may be working at the airport in paris. so this is a dream for isis and its ilk to get jobs in sensitive positions in airports, in security positions, where they are allowed to carry weapons. that's a dream for islamic terror groups and jihadists like isis will continue to try to infiltrate these positions. >> eric, it is sad. it is growing. it is here, and it is continuing, and it is the challenge of our time. thank you for joining us. as a terror expert and with the christians united for israel and for your insight. thank you. >> thank you, eric. anytime. >> eric, a community in mourning as it tries to begin the healing phase from the devastating
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as we learn more about the orlando nightclub terror attack, which is now the worst mass shooting in american history, what more can law enforcement do to guard against this growing threat? let's bring in a senior fellow at the heritage foundation and a security and foreign policy analyst. thank you first of all in acknowledging the terrific job that law enforcement is already doing. what more can they do? >> all right. so by our count, and this would be number 86, there have been at least 86 known islamist terrorist plots aimed at the united states since 9/11, many of them very, very serious. we can all count the ones that actually came to fruition, fort hood, san bernardino, this one today, bogs. the way you stop them is good counterterrorism operations. it's local, state, federal law enforcement getting out there,
doing the investigations, doing the information sharing, and even in cases where people are, quote, unquote, lone wolves, there are signals out there that if you're doing the job right, you can pick these up. we need more of that. i think a big part of the concern is when people get really angry about why are we calling this a terrorist attack is they're frustrated because they really don't believe that their president and senior officials really take this war seriously, and they're skeptical. that kind of ambivalence drives up concerns among average americans. >> to that point regarding semantics and labels, my prior guest said that this fight on terrorism, the fight against terrorism, should be classified as a military operation. i'd like to know what you think about, that and in his -- from his perspective, he says this would open up law enforcement here at home to be able to do more to fight these -- >> yeah. >> go ahead. >> i heard that interview, and he was part right, and he was
part dead wrong. he's completely right in the sense what's driving this, what's fueling this is the narrative that isis is out there and fighting, and it's calling fighters both to the battleground in syria and iraq and around the world to fight for them. and as long as they are standing and fighting, that's a global threat. and in a very lackadaisical military campaign, this administration has been horrible on defeating the enemy. when we actually defeated al qaeda in the field in iraq and afghanistan, global terrorism attacks plummeted. then we pulled out of iraq. we gave them space to jump back. overseas, there's a real place for military operations. domestically, you know, to be honest with you, we have 99% of the law enforcement and authorities we need here to do this. we just need to do the job. but when you hear this ambivalence on the part of senior officials, when you hear them kind of are afraid to even mention that this is a radical islamist terror attack, that, i think, fuels skepticism and concerns on the part of americans. remember the thing we had the kid that got shot and he had a
hood. >> let me stop and keep -- i know where you're going, but i'm limited on time and i want to make sure to jump back in on something you just said. i understand your frustration there. a lot of citizens who are frustrated that they want to hear president obama and other leaders say this is islamic radical terrorism. okay. so let's say that label is out there. how does that change the fight? >> no, no. it's much -- >> but then tell me in your answer in short time, because we want solutions here. we don't just want to fight over words. >> no, no. but it's much more than that because it reflects. >> one second, sir. tell me how you would, you know, advise president clinton or president trump to react and behave and operate. >> so when a young man with a hood was shot, the white house sent word out to the tsa that you will not investigate anybody if they're wearing a hooded sweatshirt, right? so they're actually pushing this political correctness in an operational manner. it's more than semantics. when they say this stuff, it's
not just a semantic argument. they're actually reticent to enforce the laws in the way they need to be enforced. that's a real problem. >> how do we fix that? it seems like you're saying get rid of the political correct nsz and what else do you do. >> if you use the authorities that you have in the book and you have a president and senior officials that treat this as a 24/7/36 day a year job, the primary thing the department of homeland security has been responsible for is implementing amnesty and dealing with climate control and climate change, right? instead of having the department focus on its day job, and that's just not happening from the top. it's just about leadership, period. >> okay. and your last thoughts here. i'd like to know again if you were leaving a memo, a to do list for the next administration, what would be priority? >> so we've got all the tools in the tool kit. we've proven we can stop terrorism. we just have to have the leadership to press people to do their job. >> are american citizens ready for whatever that might call
for? are we ready to hear for carte blanche access to all information on the part of law enforcement? >> look, you don't have to violate people's civil liberties. you don't have to violate their civil rights. you just have to do your job. the tools are on the books and available. we just need people to take the task seriously. i think the problem is an administration that just doesn't take this fight as serious -- >> i appreciate your thoughts. just to be fair, i would imagine that someone from the white house would beg to differ, that the president is not taking this seriously. thank you very much, sir. >> thank you. >> meanwhile, at the white house, president obama ordering the flag on top of the white house to be flown at half staff. you can see a live picture right now, 5:55 p.m. eastern time. in honor of the victims of this latest terrorist attacks that have hit our nation. 50 souls taken in the name of terrorism.
the order from the president not only on the flag there but at all military posts and naval stations and naval vessels across the globe. the flag flying as a sign of our sorrow, our pain, and our tribute to those who were dancing and chatting and enjoying the freedoms that we still cherish while becoming victims in the war against terrorism that has targeted us even from within. >> as we close this hour, our thoughts and prayers with the families of the victims, and this is not about politics. this is about all of us as americans standing strong and standing together, united. >> our coverage continues. stay with us. if you have a typical airline credit card, you only earn double miles when you buy stuff from that airline. wait...is this where you typically shop? you should be getting double miles on every purchase! switch...to the capital one venture card.
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>> the terror attack in orlando is the deadliest mass shooting in american history. >> my god. people are getting shot, dude. my god, dude. >> firing off shots. >> police say a gunman stormed a crowded nightclub this morning opening fire with an assault rifle and a shotgun killing 50 people. and wounding 53 more. before he was killed in a shootout by a swat team three hours later. police identified the 29-year-old omar mateen an american citizen from port st. lucie