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enough. that's the law. you may not like my answer, but that's. >> that's all for today, we'll follow the orlando terror attack and all the fallout on varney and company. "the five" is next. hello, i'm eric bolling along with kimberly guilfoyle, juan williams, dana perino and greg gutfeld, it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five". we have a fox news alert, bombshell new information about the wife of the orlando terrorist. noora mateen admitted to investigators that she was aware of her husband's plans to shoot up pulse nightclub and did nothing to stop him. let's dig in, we'll start with steve harrigan who is in orlando with the latest developments. steve? >> eric, one focus of the federal investigators right now is on the activity of the killer in the days before this attack
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took place. they know that he purchased two weapons during that period, as well as ammunition and a hollister. they know that the killer carried out several surveillance missions scouting out potential attack sites. these included not only the gay nightclub, the pulse, but also walt disney world properties as well. investigators have all of his electronic devices, his cell phone, his laptop computer as well as his camera. they are studying his financial records to see who if anything may have helped him in his murderous efforts. and increasingly as you mentioned, attention is turning to the wife, noora mateen, she's the killer's second wife. 30 years old from california. her parents are palestinian immigrants. right now fox news has learned from law enforcement sources that she knew of the attack but did nothing to stop it. she may have accompanied him on at least one of those surveillance runs to the pulse nightclub. she may have received calls during the attack itself.
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so far she's not been charged with any crime. but that could change quickly. >> joining us here in new york is dr. sebastian gorga, chair of the military, chair of military theory at the marine corps university. author of "defeating jihad." with the new information that steve just website epointed out. number one that omar mateen, may have been gay. his wife said she thought he was gay. we're understanding that has been asked out or asked out other male classmates in schools. how does that change things if he in fact was gay? >> i don't think it changes anything. it's still an act of jihadism. we have the latest report from andy mccarthy, who put the blind sheikh away. very interesting report. the blind sheikh's bodyguard, marcus robinson changed his name to an arabic name and became an imam and opened a mosque where this man practiced.
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there could be a broader conspiracy behind this. what his sexual proclivities are, it seems to be a diversionary tactic. this is man who said i'm doing this for isis, for the caliphate. that's what matters. >> kg, your thoughts? >> i don't care who he wants to sleep with, goats for that matter, yes, hyperbole intended. it doesn't matter what we know is he was someone that was a radical islamist. he pledge allegiance to isis. he was very familiar with that particular situation with, the layout, casing and that's what oftentimes in situations like this, you will go ahead so that you are one familiar to those around you. wait who is this guy around. everybody used to know who would hang out there. you have eye witnesses from that evening, they were also there on other occasions, they saw him. this is no one that would cause alarm by being present in that
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particular location, you have him going multiple times. it sounds like someone who was well prepared to do an execution, forget about mass shooting and took out 49 human lives. >> what did you learn today, juan? >> i think it does make a difference, if he has this kind of conflict in his mind about being gay. apparently the first wife said she believes he had gay inclinations, that's what she told i believe a brazilian news network. she said the fbi said don't say knowing about this. the father is like a hard guy, afghan, thinks he's going to go back to afghanistan and take over or something -- >> or run for president. >> he's the one who apparently confronted the son and the son was uncomfortable. i think there's a very conflicted, crazed individual. it makes a huge difference, our understanding as americans of what took place, a lone action of a guy who has trouble with gay people, who apparently with himself, with his own
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identity -- >> he said lone wolf. >> there's no proof of lone wolf. >> that's a phrase invented to make americans stupid. there is no such thing as lone wolf. whether it's the san bernardino killers, the fort hood shooter, tsarnaev brothers, there's connective issue between them, the ideology of global jihadism. what relevance is the sexual proclivity of the killer. if the man says i'm doing this for the calf fayette and islam, that's the key. that's how we're going to stop the next guy. we're not going to stop the next guy by looking at what app he was using for his hook-ups. we're going to stop him if we find a jihadi network. >> dana? >> amen. >> if the loan wolfe phrase comes from domestic terrorists like the euunabomber. >> a guy had has no conspiratorial background.
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>> i think that might be where there's confusion. i'm curious what you think about the fbi yesterday. and james comey, who i think is usually very cautious and very measured. one of the things he said yesterday right away was there's nothing that the fbi would have done differently. several hours later we find out this more information about the wife, we might find out more in terms of the mosque. do you think the fbi kind of got too far out over its skis in saying that? >> i have the pleasure and honor of working with the fbi very closely for about six years now. everybody in the fbi is a patriot and wants to protect the country. every time we see a problem with uncovering jihadism or missing it, it comes out of the doj, especially the civil rights division of the doj. the memos go from the white house and the dodge and get rammed down the throat of the fbi. if the fbi dropped the ball in any sense i would bet money it was because the doj pressured
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them or said not interested. >> one thing to point out is it's the first seven days of ramadan. attacks in orlando, paris, damascus, tel aviv, beirut. that's bigger than homophobia. homophobia is an integral part of the ideology. there's a great survey, a 2009 poll. how many thought homosexuality was acceptable. zero percent. 100% -- it's part of an ideology as you say. but the phrase, i really hate? hate, when everybody keeps talking about this climate of hate and how we have to fight hate. it's actually not about hate. these people don't hate gays, they think killing gase is an act of compassion that is actually like a what do you call it a carpooling ticket to get to there faster. it's a mercy killing.
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it's not about hate, an ideology, a desire it take over the world. >> if you're gay and you're barteling gay issues and you are a muslim. can you imagine how conflicted and crazy, especially with your dad there. so contrary to what i'm hearing, i think in effect you could then use what you're hearing from the jihadist as a cover for your own madness. >> you sound like dr. phil. >> crazy conspiracy theory. why is there such a refusal to accept this for exactly what it is. it was an act of radical jihad carried out by someone who pledged allegiance to isis. who was focused, prepared and executed his mission well. >> hold that thought, juan, when you listen to the fiery remarks after his national security council meeting earlier, president obama downplayed the threat of isis. listen. >> isil's ranks are sha rirnging as well. their morale is sinking.
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the flow of foreign fighters including from america to syria and iraq has plummeted. our intelligence thinks that it's been reduced to the lowest level in two and a half years. >> he's done it, president obama finally called it radical islamic terror. he said it four times in one speech today. he then went on to explain why he has not used the term radical islam until now. >> the main contribution of some of my friends on the other side of the aisle have made in the fight against isil, to criticize this administration and me for not using the phrase radical islam. what exactly would using this label accomplish? calling a threat by a different name does not make it go away. this is a political distraction.
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>> now dr. gorka, the president seemed mad today. he was moved, he was shaking. it seemed like he was mad at trump and the republicans rather than the terrorists. >> he's not the only one who's mad. words matter. if a patient walks into a clinic and he's got tuberculosis and we say no, no, no, he's got the cold. take some aspirins, what's going to happen to that tb patient? he's going to die. words matter. why are we trying to score political points, fact is i'd like to give some different data. forget about isis recruits in the middle east. this man who did this attack is the 103rd isis terrorist suspect killed in america, or captured in the last two years. 103. not jihadists, just isis. 2015, report from duke, 2015 saw the highest incidents of jihadi plots on u.s. trert since 9/11. the president can't admit his strategy has failed.
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>> let me say quickly, obama has been terrific, resolute on this point and he makes the key point very effective speech to say what's the magic in this phrase. in fact, 120 senior isis leaders killed by this preds. obama it seems to me has destroyed isis command and control, half the land that isis was holding in iraq or syria pushed back. we've seen all this progress and yet people want to focus on the language as if that somehow was going to cure the problem. >> he was dragged kicking and screaming to fight isis. you can say oh now he's doing a great job. he was doing a great job because there were people out there criticizing him. the fact is if obama doesn't separate islamism from islam, then neither will donald trump and you cannot criticize donald trump for doing that. >> president obama did take credit, he patted himself on the
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back, 120 isis leaders who were killed since august 2014. 22 months ago. about five a month. in the last seven months alone there have been more than that. 130 have perished, 14 in san bernardino. 32 in brussels, 49 in orlando. 32 a month. isis is clearly defeating president obama on his strategy to defeat them. they're winning. >> how is that? >> he just explained it. >> that doesn't make any sense. >> what you're talking about, what we're talking about here in the president has said this today is you've got an ideology that's being spread and we're trying to fight the ideology even on this show. >> he wants to use body bags as a metric of victory. that was stupid during vietnam and you know what, it's not smart today. it's not body bags, because you can kill one high-value target, if 15 jihadis volunteered to replace him. what does that uav strike
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become? a recruiting tool for the bad guys. you've got to be honest about the threat and delegitimize the brand of jihad. >> i think the peaceful muslims, of which 99% of them are in the world, can tell the difference between, they know, radical islamic terrorism, they understand what that means. it's not like if you say because i'm an italian american i'm offended if you talk about the mafia. i think we're not giving -- >> we're not giving people enough credit for recognizing the threats for what they are i also degree that actions speak louder than words and i agree that the spread of isis into libya is something they have to account for. >> 99%? >> i don't know. 1% of the muslims in the world. >> i'm making up a number. >> i want to echo what dr. gorka is saying, that words do matter and the political correctness has no place in the threat assessment equation. meaning you cannot sit there and say i'm worried about sending
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in, we're part of the problem because we're using language that's upsetting, that disturbs peaceful loving muslims. the peaceful religion of islam. look at what they stand for, look at what they're saying and look at their actions, we're not better off than when president obama decided to devote himself to the fight against isis. we are in a worse position and they are moving more towards being able to achieve a caliphate that is the problem. they've spread in far more countries than ever before with other groups that spread jihad around the world, also joining in it with them. >> i think we're fighting, we've increased intelligence sharing in places like jordan, morocco, kimberly, a result of not saying we're in a fight against all of islam and all muslims are a problem. we are in fact creating more of a powerful -- and we have taken out so much of their leadership that that makes it more difficult for them to --
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>> we can compromise on this. it's about creating a sense of unity. he is replacing unity with politics. these are political ideas that he is behind. and that is breaking this country apart. a very simple unifying thing, we're all fighting terror, we're all fighting radical islam -- done. >> isis versus us. >> on that note, we got to go. dr. gorka is going to stay with us. >> good. >> in the wake of the attack, should we start surveilling mosques again? donald trump thinks so he's being met by strong resistance from president obama and his rival hillary clinton, that heated debate is straight ahead.
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yesterday donald trump ignited a firestorm when he call called for a temporary ban on muslims traveling to the united states. we have to be very strorj in terms of looking at the mosque which is a lot of people say we don't want to do that. we don't want to do it. we're beyond that. >> i called for a ban after san bernardino, it was met with great scorn and anger. many are saying that i was right to do so. and although the pause is
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temporary, we must find out what is going on. we have to do it. it will be lifted, this ban, when and as a nation we're in a position to properly and perfectly screen these people coming into our country. >> should we have more surveillance on mosques? here are concerns one member of the mosque mateen attended now has following these events. >> do you worry that there could be others? >> yes, i do worry very much, from now on i will be keeping an eye on our youth, talking to them more frequently. i feel the people who talk more, they're more easier to understand, you know what they're saying, where they're coming from. if you hear something bad, you can always report it. but if people are quiet, those are the ones who are -- >> like omar? >> like omar, he was very quiet. those are the people who are a danger. >> back with sus "defeating jihad" author, dr. sebastian
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gorka. that gentleman said from now on they're going to monitor their own mosque. at what point do we have to say thank you very much, but we are going to be doing this as well. maybe we shouldn't announce we're going to do some surveillance? >> not good to do that in advance. >> maybe we should all stop talking about it. >> let me share with you a recent isis story from america. a man was recruited by isis who lived in new york, upstate new york. and he went mosque-shopping. this is what we see with jihadis, they want to go deeper and deeper down the trail with jihad. he shopped seven mosques, was kicked out of six of them. none of those mosque leaders told the fbi. now there are two ways to get radicalized. through the internet or through a radical imam. are we just going to ignore half of the places where somebody could get recruited? whether it's richard reed, the
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shoebombers, all the terrorists we've seen in the last 15 years, a combination of the internet and radical imams. where are the radical imams to be found -- baseball games? or a mosque. the idea that we close our eyes to this is theyed that somebody is going to miss the signals because they do not tell the authorities when somebody walks down the pathway of jihad. >> help us clear this up, doctor. there's a lot of debate on sharia law. does sharia law say kill the infidel, and the infidel is defined as gay or a sinner. >> i tell all americans, after 9/11 all americans should have the koran. why don't you leaf through to chapter 9 verse 29. or chapter 9 verse 405. after the holy month is passed,
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hunt down the infidel, besiege them with every strategy of war, unless they convert, kill them. they can't pass that. the koran has very nice specific things to say about infidel. it has both. you cannot say this is a simply religion of peace and this is all about frustrated homo erotic fantasies being suppressed by people living in orlando. it's people following in pathway that's been established. >> i think you give him too much cred especially to this 29-year-old who is to me mentally ill and clearly struggling with sexual issues. to me the bigger point here is when you have something like people talking about surveillance of churches, hmm, think that's very american. i think republicans in the congress have been pointing out today, they are not for that. they don't want people going into catholic churches, what's that pope up to? no. what we want to do is go after
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people who we can see there's evidence of terrorism and terrorist activities. >> i don't think i think we have the protection of religion -- >> this is what drives me crazy. apology to biker gangs everywhere. but imagine if there were chapters of a biker gang, let's say it was hell's angels all throughout the country and there was trouble coming from those gangs, no one would have a problem surveilling them so we're giving an exemption based on a religion to me which is absurd i don't care if it's islam, i don't care if it's mormons, scientology, catholicism. if there's something emanating from certain chapters that are dangerous, you receive no special exemption because you're a religion. that's baloney. it's wrong. nuts. >> this is well within the law. you can go, when you have evidence and leads like this,
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probable cause to believe that criminal activities is kurng and individuals there are part of that, that's the obligation of law enforcement to go ahead and our intelligence community to make us safe. when you have over and over again evidence of the radical imams getting these guys to do this, perform these acts of jihad. whether or not they're self-radicalized on the internet or not, why wouldn't you chase that down? i don't think the pope is calling for jihad and calling the infidel, is he? but if they were doing it in the catholic church or anywhere else, he they should go there. in the face of stark, compelling evidence is really inappropriate, that's what this administration is doing. and 49 more bodies on his count now. >> if the klu klux klan in the '50s that were lynching south americans said let's have our meetings in a church, would the fbi have said switch off the microphones. religion is not a shield for the
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bad guys. >> do you remember how celebrities on twitter and people in the media love to go after westboro, a christian church of like 13 members who stand out and do horrible things in front of funerals of veterans. have not killed anybody. but people love to go after westboro. but then you find out in mosques will are teampeople that are cultivating a very pernicious ideology that ultimately ends in people's deaths and we're like whoa. >> because we have a constitution that protects religious freedom. we should be surveilling. >> when you extend this this to banning muslims from coming into the country as trump has suggested, this is about persecution, not detection. >> i'm not talking about banning. i'm talking about us being persecuted. >> but he was born in america. -day think -- there's kind of an umbrella issue. can i ask you one last question. one thing that president obama says is talk about the banning muslims or talking about radical
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islamism, is hurting our chances of having muslims, peaceful muslims work with us and be allies. is that true? >> no. i worked closely with our muslim alleys, especially the jordanians and egyptians. when we say this sunt about religion, we are undermining our muslim allies. when the president says it's about hijacking islam and when the president of jordan says we're losing the war of islam to the bad guys. we say no these are not the droids you're looking for, we're endangering our fellow muslim allies. >> i wish mat tooen walked into a biker bar and he would have got some. >> dr. gorka, thank you so much for joining us. directly ahead, fireworks on capitol hill as the gun control debate reach as fever pitch. find out why some democratic lawmakers protested during a moment of silence for the orlando victims, next.
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i believe that meaningful responsibility gun control is part of homeland security. it's something we need to address, we need to do something to minimize the opportunities for terrorists to get a gun in this country. i thought frankly after sandy hook where you have schoolchildren murdered in a classroom that maybe finally this was going to be the tipping point. and we were not able to move the needle in congress, unfortunately. >> gun control has erupted into a national hot topic following sunday's terrorist attack and on capitol hill it's reached a fever pitch. some democrats walked out of the house chamber during a moment of silence for the orlando victims yesterday. the protest was an attempt to call attention to gun control legislation. it got even more intense later as house speaker paul ryan tried to restore order to the floor. >> order, order! >> so disturbing. so when you see this, how you
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cannot just give these victims a moment of silence? why do you have to politicize it when families are suffering? you're supposed to be people we look up to that represent our nation. represent all of us as individuals. and yet, greg, they do this to make a point, a little bit of showmanship, it's very much like a circus, but i would never want to go back to. >> let's have the discussion on gun control, in fact we always have it. it's, we have it. but let's have it when it's untethered to an evil that requires an un -- an undivided unified attention. we have to talk about unity and about a fight against islamism. and introducing gun control into that is just a diversion. do guns encourage islamism? no. do they protect against it? yes. it's like having a bunch of rabid bears loose in your neighborhood. you start going after the guns. it makes no sense. >> it's a complete distraction
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of focus. eric and yes, there's you know a time and a place that is appropriate, and they certainly have enough time in their hands, to be able to do that debate and argue the merits back and forth. i'm all about that. >> the gun debate will go on and it has gone on. this is the thing we talk about after every mass shooting, there's a time for the political debate on guns, we'll do that. this is a moment of silence, it was disrespectful for those democrats to get up during the moment of silence, disrupt the moment of silence and i hope the lgbt community realized which group got up and which group stayed. the republicans stayed and there's a group of democrats that disrupted. i'm telling you there's a change in the needle. the needle is moving with the lgbt community saying he hy, the republicans may have our back a little more than we thought they did. >> that's a fair assessment, dana. let me comment on something else. one of the things that congress
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is doing this week is moving forward. congressman tim murphy's bill on treating mental health which is when we talk about gun control, and it's not related to a jihadist terrorist attack and it's related to for example sandy hook, everyone can agree that mental health is one of the issues that our government should try to do a lot more and better policy on in order to help families dealing with this. so there is a bill moving this week, the congress is doing something. there are things that they could do to show that they are being productive and they stepped all over that. >> it's such a missed opportunity, juan. what do you have to say in defense of this lack of civility and respect of victims. >> i don't know how you get to that point, kg. the fact is the politics here is that speaker ryan will not take up anything to do with gun control. it's highly politicized. >> this is about terror. >> no, it's not. it's about gun control and so much so that the police commissioner of our great city, new york city, said basically you can't expect anything from
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this congress. and not -- no, no, no. you miss the point. hypocrisy lasts longer than a minute when you can't get the speaker to have a fair discussion. greg, who is exactly diametrically opposed to me on this point said let's have the discussion. let's -- they don't want to bring it up in congress and congress is too cowardly to act. they were cowardly after newtown, cowardly after columbine, and they're cowardly now. >> on which point specifically? >> on closing and preventing someone like this guy who is being watched by the fbi, on a -- he can go in and get a gun? that's crazy. why should he be able to get a gun? >> have the debate. they've been having the debate -- they've been having a moment of silence forever. and meanwhile -- here's a quote from bill bratton. he said basically these people are prostituting themselves in front of the nra.
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that's the police commissioner. he's no left wing. >> he works for de blasio. it's about timing. a tsunami is coming and you're debating evacuating. you could do, you're talking about dealing with it after you're out of there. >> now we're out of here. up next, some media outlets like "rolling stone" have glamourized terrorists in the past. they will pay. will they do the same with this guy? greg has thoughts and advice, next. think fixing your windshield is a big hassle?
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fiend who wanted to beat the norway fiend and the orlando crop gave props to the boston bile. he made "rolling stone." infamy is everything. here's a weird fact, after highly publicized suicides, the number of people who die in commercial airline crashes goes up about 1,000%. car deaths jump, too, experts point to the copycat effect. these were murder-suicides limited to areas where there was heavy media exposure. it blows your mind. it's why the less a fiend is seen, the better. why be the pr arm for isis. evil is a contagion, we must deny that spread. for the spotlight attracts gouls who find reward in ghoulish action. if you're a loser, obscurity pales in comparison to being known forever. even if it means killing dozens of innocents, you might end up on the cover of "rolling stone." in islam it's forbidden to show mohammed's likeness, let's do
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the same to its most vile followers. i'm torn between the attention given to spectacle, i feel it's glamorous, how do we deal with that. >> sn. >> i'm going to take the other side. i think showing the names and faces and the locations that these people perpetrate this evil is important because i think can you make some ties, people can say hey, i knew that guy, i saw that guy and he was friends with this other person over here. maybe you want to take a look at this one. i think we're in an age where more information is better. the best way to expose these terror cells, if you hide his face and likeness, i'm afraid we're not going to get all of that. >> i don't think greg is saying that, i think he's saying don't romanticize this guy. >> a lot of people are calling for not even mentioning his name or picture at all. >> we're a legitimate news organization, but after a point, i think everybody knows, the
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point is don't celebrate this jerk. >> we would all agree to that. >> for example, israel, they don't say their names, they focus on the acts specifically and what they're trying to achieve. they have a different approach to it. they also don't use words like loan wolves or is this a hate crime. they identify the threat posed and deal with it effectively. that's what we can learn from them. the groups like isis, social media i mean groups that are committing worldwide radical jihad are using sites like twitter, like instagram. they become quite adept at it. so somebody tell me that we're going to tell them over at facebook to like lock down, shut down all of their accounts. it's like whack-a-mole. as soon as you get one down, another one goes up and they're quite skilled at doing it that's the problem. that's part of the whole radicalization where people can do it, you know it's like online course. you can teach yourself.
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>> i was thinking about how isis uses this propaganda. isis grows in strength and number. >> even if they take credit. >> well we still don't know about the egyptian air flight and what happened there. but if they are seen by their followers who are usually these loners, the most recent one in terms of san bernardino and mateen, then their attractiveness gross. i can see the point of, not putting them on the cover of "rolling stone" magazine. it's how people repeat acts -- whether it's suicide or murder is amazing to me. it is like a contagious thing. coming up in the midst of tragedy an outpouring of support for orlando, including local chick-fil-a employs who stepped up to help others.
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here's one example of many -- popular fast food chain chick-fil-a opened some orlando area restaurants this past sunday hours after the rampage. cooking and delivering food and drinks for those standing in line to donate blood and law enforcement at the deadly scene. this is a situation, dana where back in 2012, chick-fil-a was
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targeted by the left-wing and especially the gay community for the fact that the owner was saying he supported traditional marriage and was interpreted as a slight towards the gay community. here they are reaching out towards people in the aftermath of a shooting at a gay club. >> and as i understand it, chick-fil-a did not announce this or take out an ad. whereas when they were targeted, there were mayors across the country, including in chicago maybe here where they held press conferences to announce how great they were for boycotting chick-fil-a from coming into their cities. >> greg you know what dan kathy said he understands that back then in 2012, it may have led to some confusion, because people said you know what, if you're anti-gay group now we're going to identify with chick-fil-a. that's not what he intended. he didn't intend to alienate segments of his own market. >> you're seeing a contrast between two worlds, the real world, which is what's happening
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there and twitter. if there was twitter after pearl harbor or 9/11 our unity would have been equally compromised the way it is now after any kind of thing. the first response is always the worst. when you're on twitter, it is emotional and it is not factual. suddenly when you're in the real world and you're watching people trying to help other people it doesn't matter. twitter doesn't exist, i think twitter incentivizes division by people looking for retweets and attention. >> so now, now the contrary position comes from people saying yeah, but the chick-fil-a foundation gives money to groups that say we're, don't engage in homosexual behavior, activities, is that fair? >> and also groups that do. chick-fil-a donated food to the iowa pride festival. dan kathy runs his business the way he runs his life. for that i respect him. he's not hypocritical for a dollar. i respect that. that's why he's closed on
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sunday, he's very religious, for a day of rest. i'm a big fan of what he's doing. i think he's clearly reaching out to the lgbt community. >> i think their actions speak very loud and maybe the mayors of chicago and new york and san francisco may not want them there, but this is a family and business that's been quite charitable, like in times of need and they're to be commended and their chicken is delicious. >> you know what else, it seems to me that chick-fil-a says we're all about making a dollar, but at the same time we're about helping people and standing up with people in need. they really did that this past week? >> which is christian. >> one more thing, up next. incredible bladder protection in a pad this thin, i didn't...
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i thodid the ancestrydna toian. find out i'm only 16% italian. so i went onto ancestry,
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soon learned that one of our ancestors was eastern european. this is my ancestor who i didn't know about. we want to take a moment to honor the memory of former u.s. senator and two-term ohio governor george voinovich who passed away in his sleep at his home in cleveland on sunday, he was 79. the republicans remarkable career spanned over 40 years. all the while earning the respect and admiration of members of both parties. ohio governor john kasich released a statement saying he was a unifier who thought outside the box. never gave up and worked hard for the ideas he believed in up until the very end of his life. his funeral is set for friday and he will be deeply missed. >> thank you, kg. greg? >> it's time for this, i like these people.
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i know it's not very often i do this jetblue, it's a great company, they are offering free airfare to the family members of the orlando massacre victims. and anyone who has gone through a bereavement in which they've got to get somewhere, this is actually kind of a big deal. because this is the one thing that you can't quite process and do on your own sometimes. and when somebody makes it a little bit easier for you, it's actually a big deal. >> unexpected expense. >> wonderful act of kindness. >> so there's a lot of misinformation circulating out there of what an assault weapon is and what it isn't. and ar-15 is not an assault weapon. an assault weapon toggles between one shot, one pull on the trigger and many shots with one pull on the trigger. the ar-15 is one shot, one pull. that said, my good friendsed aed independent journal pointed this out today. >> if he were who he was, and he
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was not able to buy a weapon that shoots off 700 rounds in a minute, a lot of those people would still be alive. that's exactly right. >> congressman grayson, you cannot pull 700 rounds off in one minute. i challenge you to do that. if you do, i will eat red meat or do something crazy. but i guarantee you can't do that. not automatic. go ahead, dana. >> on a lighter touch today for my one more thing. everyone ever watch a ted talk? i like the parody. here's a satirical program called this is that, done by cbc radio. it's hilarious. >> you know i'm a thought leader because i'm wearing a blazer, i have glasses and i've just done this with my hands. let's look at a picture of the planet for no reason. what happenes if i put some words over it? how about a number? what if i pose a question? by doing this, i've now made you
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think that i know what i'm talking about. >> you can check out the full clip, we'll put it up on our facebook page. it's worth the four minutes. >> ted talks. i'll show you later, it's like a thought leader. thought leaders, i'll show you tonight on the way home. >> thank you. on friday at the invitation of muhammed ali's family, i attended his memorial service in louisville, kentucky. it was a sad occasion but i offered my condolences to the ali family, here i am with ali's daughter, rasheda. what's surprising to me, it was also a festive occasion. all through the city. there you see on the front of a bus, destination, ali, the greatest. as you can see, here's my son, raffi and i at the ali center, in one of the boxing rings, donations should be sent to the ali center, that's what he wanted. and then i got to reconnect with the boxing community, there i am with sugar ray leonard. evander holyfield and with the assassin, bernard hopkins.
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ali family had an amazing event, really one for the record books, just tremendous, an honor to ali. >> thank you, juan. set your dvrs to never miss an episo of "the five." "special report" is next. a passionate president obama defends how he talks about terrorism as investigators into the orlando nightclub attack turn their attention to the terrorist's wife. and what she knew. this is "special report." >> good evening, welcome to washington i'm bret baier. eel speak live with homeland security secretary jeh johnson in just a few minutes. but first an update on the war on terror turns into a war over words. today president obama launched a fiery response to republicans, and specifically donald trump, over the president's refusal to use the term radical islamic

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