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>> this is a fox news alert on a meeting that has the potential to change the game in the 2016 presidential election. hillary clinton the leaving her washington home this morning to finally sit down with the fbi as it investigates her use of a private e-mail server while serving as secretary of state. hello, everyone. welcome inside this hour of america's election headquarters. >> that meeting at fbi headquarters lasted about three and a half hours as agents looked into the possibility that secret information was put at risk. >> the meeting comes in the middle of a fire storm over a private meeting between bill clinton and attorney general loretta lynch whose justice department is heading up that investigation. we've been following this story all morning long. we're live outside mrs. clinton's home in washington. jennifer. >> reporter: hi, kelly. well, secretary clinton left
about two hours ago from her home here in washington, d.c. we do know from our colleague that she did arrive in new york. she is at home there now. she met with the fub as laura mentioned for three and a half hours at the headquarters here in washington. her campaign's spokes person tells us it was a voluntary meeting, but it was under oath, of course. here's a statement from the campaign. quote, secretary clinton gave a voluntary interview this morning about her e-mail arrangements while she was secretary. she is pleased to have had the opportunity to assist the department of justice in bringing this review to a conclusion. out of the respect for the investigative process she will not comment further on her interview. of note, a while ago clinton's former chief of staff left the clinton residence here in washington, d.c. she does not have a formal position on the campaign, but is a long time confidant and
advisor. she was always interviewed previously by the fbi about their records keeping at the state department. if you look back at the history of this controversy it is notable that secretary clinton set up her primary e-mail server on the same day as her confirmation hearing in 2009. two years later she september this e-mail to state department employees after a cyber hack was noted in the press. quote, this is from june 29th, 2000 eleven. quote, avoid conducting official department business from your personal e-mail accounts. also of note, in august 2012, the state department inspector general issued a scathing report against then secretary clinton's ambassador to kenya. he had been -- had worked on her campaign as well and he was accused of sending sensitive information through a personal e-mail account. he was later fired. >> all right. jennifer griffin bringing us all
the details from washington. thank you. as we move forward now, this is a big step in this investigation which has been going on for a long time now. ever since the house benghazi probe first revealed. let's bring in former deputy assistant attorney general. ver and very serious for the clinton campaign, sit not? >> it absolutely is. and today's developments indicate this investigation at long last is nearing a conclusion. typically the way these invest gases work is that you'll sit down with the target, interview the target at the very end so it's really a culmination of a long investigatory process and i would imagine that the next step is the careers investigators will sit down and make a recommendation to the attorney general. >> when jennifer was giving her report she went back to 2011 when then secretary of state issued a directive to all
employees of the state department to watch how they use their e-mails and their private e-mails and she becomes someone who has violated the very message that she put out. what does that say about her practices? is she above the law or does she act within the law? >> well, it's worrisome, because it clearly indicates she's operating under a potential double standard here and i think it's relevant from a legal perspective in that it underscores the fact that she knows what the law is. one defense you often see in criminal prosecutions is well, i may have violated the law but it was inadvertent. but that e-mail you just mentioned shows that she knew what the law was and she apparently simply chose not to follow it. >> we all make mistakes, but for something like this and then not to be as forthcoming or as transparent as it seemingly appears right now, we don't know the totality of that interview of the three hours she had with the fbi. it's obvious the fbi may know a
whole lot more than even the clintons knew going into this. what do you think might have happened and what will they perhaps do in following up with this investigation? >> well, i think you're absol e absolutely ligabsolut absolutely light. >> i'm confident they had testimony or documents that she either had never seen before or that she didn't know was in the government's possession. if you come in prepared to tell your story and during that interview the fbi slides across the table some testimony or e-mails that you didn't know they had, it can be pretty dangerous. you'll recall back in the 90s, prt bill clinton thought he could sale through his deposition in the monica lewinsky case. we'll see what happens in a month or two. >> and prosecutors aren't always as forgiving as we'd like them to be. in this particular case where we've seen people go to jail and be punished or even fired in the case of one of her underings at
the state department when she was there at the state department, it could be anybody's guess what's going to happen after the fbi comes out with this investigation conclusion. >> and another relevant president is david petraeus. we all recall what happened to him when he was found to have mishandled classified information and i think that the justice department is going to need to make sure it applies the rule of law equally here. it's going to need to take a look at the evidence in a neutral and independent manner and frankly take them where the law and the evidence commands them to take it. >> wow. all right. we'll continue to follow the developments of this breaking story. former deputy assistant attorney general, thank you for joining us today, sir. >> thank you, kelly. and let's get to the politics of this now. joining me is judith miller, author and journalist, also a fox news contributor. hi, judith.
>> hi. >> when i heard you were coming on the air i couldn't wait to talk to you. i want to know what you think the fallout will be over this fbi interview today. >> well, look, i think this is the worst possible news for candidate clinton, soon to be presumptive and one presumes the actual nominee of the democratic party. this is not what she wanted to be talking about this weekend. i mean, she first of all there are no official meetings scheduled this weekend, her first appearance is next tuesday, but i think it does raise additional questions about what bill clinton was thinking when he decided to meet with loretta lynch, the attorney general on that airport half an hour. it just raises all kinds of questions about how worried the clinton administration in waiting is about what is likely to come out of the fbi. first we have the office of inspector general's report from
the state department that basically says she misled the department, she -- her aides misled them about the e-mail server. now we have an fbi concluding its inquiry. this is not -- this is not what she wants for her july fourth celebration. >> isn't it good though that she's doing it on the fourth of july weekend where a lot of people are distracted doing other things, there's some time before she makes her next public appearance? you've been watching politics for a long time. what do you expect will happen next? >> look, i think this is a story that is not going to go away unless and until the fbi makes it go away. that is, there are too many questions about this server. it has been going on for over a year. she herself volunteered supposedly to meet with the fbi last august, you know, almost a year ago. they did not take her up on that offer, because usually the fbi waits until the end of a
criminal investigation to meet with the target or subject of that investigation. but i think that this is a -- and i've said from the beginning is a very, very serious matter, and i don't see how the presumptive nominee of the democratic party can get the nomination and win an election if this is hanging over her head. so if one assumes that she's going to be exonerated then it's good news for her to get this behind her. but if it continues, it is a devastating potentially devastating blow to her candidacy. >> so if you're her lawyer, you done want her to say very much. if you're her campaign manager you probably wanted her to take the meeting to smooth over the public perception. so which side wins out on a day like this? what's next in that regard? >> well, she has not said anything about this and she's not going to, because the last time she said something about this, which was basically this is a security inquiry, the fbi
director snapped back, we don't do security inquiries. i don't even know what that is. this is a criminal investigation. investigation as in fbi. so the less said by hillary clinton and her aides and assistants at this point the better from her standpoint. >> and three and a half hours? you think that's going to be it? will she be back in front of the fbi? >> there's no way to tell that. i mean, it's -- also, you know, having done one of these fbi investigations in connection with a leak of classified information, i know that everything you say is going to be weighed against what others have told the fbi, and if there's a contradiction, whether or not she's culpable or liable for anything relating to the e-mail server, ifthere's a contradiction and they can prove she made a misstatement she's potentially liable to perjury charges so this is a very serious moment for her and no matter how she kind of attempts
to slough it off and say this is just concluding something that's gone on for too long, this is a moment of truth for hillary clinton. >> all right. judith miller. thank you so much for being with us today. always appreciate hearing your side. >> thank you very much. >> we're learning more about the three students from american universities who died in the bangladesh terror attack at the hands of isis. the tragic details still ahead. max and i just discovered this new dog treat called dentalife. it's really different. see? it's flexible...
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this is a fox news alert. new information on the brutal isis terror attack at a restaurant in bangladesh. three of the 20 victims were u.s. college students. one was an indian student studying at berkeley and two were studying in atlanta. including this young woman. commando forces stormed the restaurant killing six terrorists and capturing another. 13 hostages were rescued.
we're live in our london bureau with the latest. >> reporter: yes, the white house has confirmed that a u.s. citizen was killed, thought to be one of those students you mentioned, and it does appear that militants deliberately attacked foreigners. they took around 35 people hostage in this cafe on friday evening and finally after a very long ten-hour standoff, over 100 police stormed the building, arrested six gunmen -- sorry. they killed six gunmen, arrested one, but by the time police intervened many hostages were already dead. now, isis has claimed responsibility although that claim is yet to be verified. the organization has released photos of the men it says carried out the attack and reports indicate that foreign hostages were executed first while bangladeshi muslims were left unharmed. now, the italian government has now also confirmed that nine italians are among the dead, one
still missing and japanese officials say seven of its citizens were killed. in all, as you say, 13 hostages rescued and the state department has condemned the attack calling it a despicable act of terrorism and is offering to support the bangladeshi authorities with the investigation. bangladesh's prime minister has pleaded with islamic extremists to stop killing in the name of religion. she has declared two days of national mourning and as that process begins, questions are being asked as to why security services didn't act sooner, why more lives could not have been sa saved. this comes as no surprise to authorities in bangladesh. this is not the first isis attack in the country. it is by far the worst. it marks an increase in militant activity which will of course be of concern, not just to bangladesh itself but to the wider regions and the wider world. >> terrible situation.
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back to our top story, the meeting everyone had been waiting for finally happens. hillary clinton sits down for an interview with the fbi. after months of speculation and e-mail dumps, so as the agency's investigation of clinton's use of a private e-mail server while secretary of state picks up speed. what kind of legal battles is
she facing? a former police officer and florida's circuit court judge, now a fox news contributor. judge, good of you to join us today. >> always a pleasure. >> how do you look at this as a judge, your honor? >> well, i know that last september when they were starting their investigation the fbi made it very clear that ms. clinton was not a target of their investigation. however, that was at the beginning of the investigation and as information comes in an investigation starts to take shape and form and starts to come to a point, given the fact that her aides were interviewed three months ago, and she has basically the last interview, it seems pretty clear she has become over time the target of the investigation. whether that means you know, they have a case against her or they don't, that's really up to the fbi and the department of justice, but i think that some of the information that's come out of the last nine months or so, certainly would leave people scratching their head if there
wasn't some kind of criminal referr referral. we've learned she had an e-mail where she instructed her class to take a classified document, scrub the classification off of it, cut and paste the contents of it on to another e-mail, summarize it and send it to her. but you can't do that and evade classification laws. it becomes a crime when you do something like that, but there may be other information that we're not aware of that would counter that so we'll have to see what the fbi does. >> but on the surface, it is a crime and it is punishable by law. we do know from our reporting from jennifer griffin who's there at the clinton house in washington reporting outside of there that in 2011 when she made this statement, for all of her people to follow, there was one person who did not follow that and he has since been fired. so when you look at the case on the surface of it, it seems that secretary of state hillary clinton as secretary of state avoided that being fired and
continued to practice something that was against her own practice. against her own orders. >> well, yeah, we have a lot of information from different sources that really looks bad and then we have the information we're all waiting to hear. i for one am waiting to hear from the i.t. tech who took the fifth and was granted immunity. you know, the fbi and the department of justice does not grant immunity to somebody just for sport. they know what that person's going to say before they grant immunity because they require the attorney to give them a proffer. they don't want the person being granted immunity and then falling on their sword saying i did it all. if it's worthwhile, then they grant them immunity. so i assume there may be some information coming from there, but we have information from so many different sources and then you paint that with the -- the ridiculous visit by bill clinton to loretta lynch the other day and lynch because she should
have stopped it on the spot. it all smells bad. really bad. >> i want to ask you a question here, because there have been some people talking and conservative circles that have said president obama could have avoided all of this, and -- if he had gone ahead and stepped into this and perhaps taken this investigation off the table. does he have the power to do that through executive power? could he have done it through some sort of legal maneuver to keep clinton away from this kind of situation? >> sure, if he wants to go the route of president nixon. i mean, presidents can be charged with obstructing justice and interfering with an investigation. that's not to say it couldn't happen. it certainly could happen behind the scenes. i for one don't believe loretta limplg was the one that decided to redact the transcript of the orlando shooting to eliminate references to islamic terrorism. that all comes from the top. so behind the scenes what could happen, of course. but overtly like that,
absolutely not. >> so tell me, i mean, if you're looking through your crystal ball as a judge and obviously that's very difficult to do, what are we going to see happen here when the fbi concludes the investigation and brings information forward? >> well, as i said, i've suspected all along that she would be criminally charged. if she's not criminally charged which i think is going to be coming down very soon, i'm probably going to have complete faith in the investigation. not to say that i have faith in the doj, because it was shaken the other day. up until that point i totally did. but a stellar reputation and fbi agents will not sit back and allow a political maneuver to shake down the result of their investigation. you know, they -- you will hear outcry if there is something done behind the scenes to kill the -- the prosecution that otherwise should go forward. so if they don't charge and you don't hear that outcry, then i
think they probably did not find enough to go forward despite all the stuff that we've heard. >> judge, a lot of people are watching this obviously and it will be the talk of the town from here until the presidential nomination that takes place at the democratic convention or whatever happens between now and then resulting from this fbi investigation. judge -- >> and probably thereafter. >> you're right. good to see you, judge. >> always a pleasure. and donald trump is thinking outside the box concerning speakers for the rnc. a look at some of the big names on his short list. and is he any closer to choosing a running mate? that's next. ♪ you've wished upon it all year,
hey, baby, make it your first word! sfx: baby speak not even close. reach for the orange, it's 100% shmorange! a fox news alert on today's block buster story. just weeks before she accepts the democratic nomination for president, hillary clinton spends three and a half hours meeting with agents from the fbi on her e-mail practices as secretary of state. now, her campaign calling the visit to fbi headquarters voluntary as investigators probe her use of a private e-mail server for official state department business. and whether any wrong doing occurred. more on this from our washington news room. >> well, hillary clinton is now back in new york after meeting with the fbi investigators in washington, and according to the clinton campaign it was a very long meeting. three and a half hours. as you mentioned the key word being used by the