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bill: loretta lynch on the hot seat today. she is facing lawmakers in about an hour's time on her decision not to bring charges against hillary clinton. she said she would take the recommendation of the prosecutors and the f.b.i. martha: i'm martha maccallum, we have a big morning on capitol hill. the house judiciary committee is set to get under way in an hour from now. she'll face questions about her surprise meeting on the tar mark in phoenix with former president
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clinton. she'll also be asked about her decision not to bring charges against hillary clinton. >> we are going to go over that list of things the f.b.i. director found she had done in violation of the law and ask why the attorney general wouldn't exercise her authority to indict hillary clinton notwithstanding the investigators' recommendation. bill: the question now is whether she lied to congress during her testimonies in october. martha: what do you think the focus will be in there today? reporter: we are expecting the
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attorney general to arrive sometime in the next 45 minutes. this is a situation where the hearing was on the calendar. but given the events the last 10 days, the focus is completely turned to the series of events in the week leading up to this decision not to bring criminal charges in mrs. clinton's practices. there was what was called a coincidental meeting between the attorney general and bill clinton on that tarmac at the phoenix airport. and within days loretta lynch had to address it and said it cast a shadow over the investigation and said she would be bound by the recommendations of the f.b.i. director. hillary clinton was interviewed along with a staffer responsible
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for the deletion of those emails. the f.b.i. director said he would not recommend charges in the email matter. >> it really was a social meeting. i do think no matter how i viewed it, i understand how people view it. i think because of that, and because of the fact that it has nowcast a shadow over how this case may be perceived, no matter how this is resolved, it's important to talk about how it will be resolved. reporter: last week we had two major decisions by the justice department. one was not to refer criminal charges in the the email investigation. the second was the attorney general's statement by police officers in dallas. significantly in both of those circumstances reporters were denied the opportunity to ask
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questions of key decision makers. martha: paul ryan has called for hillary clinton's access to top secret intelligence to be blocked. reporter: a letter from the top intelligence agent to the speaker of the house. he said because she is and potential nominee to a party, they are entitled to clearance. and this can be done in an even handed and nonpartisan manner. once the nominee hillary clinton would get clearance for these briefings, and donald trump as well if he's the nominee. bill: donald trump is trying to make the lynch controversy work
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to his advantage. he slammed the clintons after their meeting with loretta lynch. >> i have got to give bill clinton credit for going to that plane and saying for 39 minutes he talked about his grandchildren and he talked about golf. there is no way you can do that. two minutes for the grandchildren and two minutes for golf. we have 35 to 36 minute left. let's talk about hillary. bill: byron york. just pick up on what catherine was talking about. one of the main issues is whether she lied to congress last fall. it has nothing to do with the f.b.i. explain that. >> this came up in the hearing last week when the f.b.i. director james comey appeared before the house. house republicans asked him, did you investigate whether hillary
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clinton highed under oath to congress about her email system? and he said no. they said why didn't you? he said congress never asked me to. they said we are going to ask you to immediately. what we have now is jason cha get, the chairman of the house oversight committee and bob goodlatte, the head of the judiciary committee has sent a letter to them asking them to investigate whether she lied to congress. we are talking about the notorious 11-hour hearing where hillary clinton appeared before the house committee and republicans think she didn't tell the truth in that meeting. bill: the way i understand it, he was in the tarmac in phoenix. she flew in for a policing event and that's when the interaction occurred. this will certainly come up today, byron.
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>> absolutely. as catherine just reported. the attorney general was already scheduled to appear before the house judiciary committee. it was already scheduled, but of course they are going to talk about that. but on the other hand, you have to remember, loretta lynch has already spoken publicly about this meeting. she was at a gathering in aspen and discussed this. it seems unlikely to me that she'll change her story. her basic story that they talked about their families and golf and she'll particular to that. bill: americans were asked question what about the decision not to chan her. 56 -- not to charge her. 56% said they disapprove. then they were asked if it made you worry about her
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responsibilities. 57% say they were worried. >> those are pretty solid majority. i think the effect that those polls are going to have is it will continue to he courage republicans to investigate this. we have just seen this new letter we were talking about. we'll see more learning more about this. clearly a lot of the public looked at the facts that director comey presented in his news conference. at the end he said we are not going to charge anybody. i think a lot of people think that was a funny conclusion. martha: the chairman of the house judiciary committee bob goodlatte will join us. he will lay out the case of earning are you against hillary clinton.
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we'll play for you her sworn testimony before congress, then the evidence by f.b.i. director jim comey and you can decide for yourself. that's coming up at the bottom of the hour. also why was she not under oath when she was questioned by the f.b.i. which seems rather unusual in this case. bill: the comey testimony was riveting. martha: a city mourning the loss of five of it police officers. dallas remembers them today. they were killed when a gunman opened fire at a protest last week. hundreds of people gathered outside of dallas city hall. they had a candlelight vigil in the memory of these men. president obama will be joined
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by former president bush. casey siegel is with us live from the performing arts center. reporter: if the crowds are anything like what we saw at last night's candle light vigil you spoke of we could be in for thousands and thousands of people showing up to this location today to say good-bye and pay their respects. the president will arrive in dallas later this morning. he was invited by this city's mayor mike rawling. former president george w. bush and first lady laura will also be in attendance. as you can imagine. security is very tight. it's possible protesters could show up. following what is expected to be a somber ceremony mr. obama will
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meet with some of the survivors back stable and family members who had those who never came home. >> the president recognizes it's not just people in dallas grieving. but people across the country who are concerned about the violence that so many americans have witnessed in the last week or so. reporter: the service begins at 1:40 local time. bill: an inmate grabbing a gun and starts firing inside a courthouse. martha: every single day. jeb bush -- >> not going to pay for it. and there is not going to be a ban on muslims. people will be deeply frustrated and the divides will grow in our country.
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martha: jeb bush says he's not going to appear at the republican convention. he's speaking now why he fears voters will be let down by a trump white house. bill: top lawmakers want to know whether hillary clinton lied to congress today. >> he was very careful director comey said she didn't lie to them. but the public comments are one area. when you lie under oath, that's a whole other level. steady is exciting. oh this is living baby! only glucerna has carbsteady, to help minimize blood sugar spikes. and try new glucerna hunger smart to help you feel full.
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martha: two bailiffs were killed and another injured in a shooting at a michigan courthouse. the inmate grabbed a deputy's gun. he was fatally shot by another bailiff when he tried to run. the injured deputy is expected to recover. but what a loss in this michigan town. bill: 45 minutes away. loretta lynch goes before congress. her first appearance on the hill since she closed the investigation on behalf of the justice department.
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june 27, a monday, there is a meeting in phoenix on the tarmac between bill clinton and loretta lynch, she says they talked about golf and grand kids. june 30 she admits to the meeting and regrets it and recuses herself from the case saying i'll take what the f.b.i. and the prosecutors tell me to do. '. three days later she is interviewed by the f.b.i. then comey comes out and says no charges. >> it goes back before that. in april the president said he didn't believe hillary clinton had intentionally violated the law. which is not the key issue here. this administration sphrols cuted a number of people including some who took documents from work to home, one pled guilty to those charges. you don't have to prove intent. you only have to prove gross negligence. the f.b.i. director said this
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was extreme carelessness. so our question for the attorney general, one of many, will be is the secretary of state above the law? isn't the expectation of other government employees moving forward that they won't be prosecuted for this type of infraction? and if so what does that say about our national security and our reason for keeping classified documents contained within a government system rather than allowing a secretary of state to intentionally set up a system in her home to intentionally by pass -- >> very interesting answer. you are arguing you do not have to show intent. others would say you do. before it is a fact the f.b.i. investigation found thousands of work-related emails her lawyers did not turn over. a handsfu hands -- a handful ofe emails were marked classified at the time. >> that's correct he.
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bill: when you ask about the meeting with bill clinton, what do you finds surprising about that? >> it's surprising for anyone to claim that's a mere coincidence. it's surprising the attorney general would say they chit-chatted about grand children for 25 minutes, and most importantly it's surprising the attorney general wouldn't recognize in advance that that's a very bad idea under the circumstances. when the president is already telegraphing his idea that nothing should happen here, it does not look good for her. bill: do you have the tail numbers for those planes? >> we do. bill: will we hear that today? >> i don't know the answer to that. bill: you understand why i asked that question? because if you have the tail numbers you can figure out the flight schedules and figure out whether it was impromptu or figure out if one of the flights was diverted.
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>> that's a good question to ask. bill: how much did they talk about golf and will bill clinton tell her where he played while he was in phoenix? >> we welcome your suggestions. we have a long list of questions and our members are ready to go because they are very concerned about the responsibility of both the coverage and the executive branch to just hold the rule of -- to just hol to uphold the. we are very concerned about the precedent that has been set. bill: as a golfer i remember my scores and i remember where i played all the time. jason chaffetz told bill o'reilly. comey said she did not lie to the f.b.i. but at issue is whether she lied to congress. and that is the entire basis for
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this hearing today. >> the fact of the matter is that the findings of the f.b.i. director in his announcement were very clear that they contradicted a number of statements that she made, a number of those statements were made under oath before a congressional committee when he was asked about whether he had investigated that, he said no he hadn't been asked to do that by the congress. we think this is very serious. so chairman chaffetz and i yesterday referred to the united states attorney for the district of columbia with copies to the attorney general and f.b.i. director for just such an investigation. bill: i have seen the letter. we are watching here. we'll see what happens today. republican bob goodlatte from virginia on capitol hill. martha: honest calls people are
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>> we are asking cops to do so inch this country. every societal failure we put it off on the cops fault. not enough mental health funding, let the comes handle it. not enough drug interdiction funding gift to the cops. martha: a lot of responsibility
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as point out by dallas police chief david brown who spoke out about the weight carried on the shoulders of law enforcement in this country. he says everything they are asked to deal with they do on a daily basis. he admitted that he has been basically overwhelmed and drained by the events of the past week. this just days after a gunman opened fire at a black lives matter protest and killed five of those officers. the city begins the process of remembering those who are now fallen. the chief is calling on citizens who are protesting to become part of the solution. >> we are hiring. get off that protest line and put an application in. we'll put you in your neighborhood and we'll help you resolve some of the problems you are protesting about. martha: become part of the solution. in dallas they have made so many
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positive stride in that city that it's particularly heartbreaking that that's where this happened. more moving words as one of the trauma surgeons who fought valiantly to save the lives of those victims sat before a microphone and delivered this. watch. >> i think about it every day. to try to save those cops when they came here. it weighs on my mind constantly. these killings have to stop. black men dying, being forgotten, people against the people who are here to defend us. martha: he says racism is not the fault of police officers and he felt it had been a personal turning point for him. his experiences as a surgeon in dallas this week.
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politico posted this article titled "obama tries to mend tattered ties with the police." the president goes to dallas today with a lot on his agenda, a lot to potentially accomplish when you go back to came bridge and the statement he made in the early stables of his presidency that the his had acted stupidly and that led to the beer up it and you can go through the course of his presidency and look at the times he defended the stance of groups like black lives matter, many feel at the expense of police. bill: my sense is it's an issue for all of us to think about on a national basis. it's important for barack obama and former president george w. bush to be there today. donald trump said to be making a
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short list for vp picks even shorter. washington post report he will announce his running mate by the end of this week. john robert outside trump towers in chicago. >> a contingent of police arrived outside trump tower. some protests expected in downtown chicago. paul manafort on fox and friends saying trump will make known his presidential pick before the weekend. here is a look at some of the people believed to be on that short list. donald trump will be appearing with one of the leading contenders. indiana governor mike pence. he spent 12 years as a member of congress. he was the chairman of the republican study committee, a staunch conservative. it might give trump could on that front. you might remember back before the indiana primary a couple months ago.
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pence came out in favor of ted cruz but told me at the time he would be willing to support trump. >> the people will decide. they will make their decision across the country. because i need a partner in the white house, you better believe it, i'll support the republican nominee for president of the united states, whoever that might be. reporter: retired general michael flynn was on fox and friends. he's a democrat. he told our fox and friends viewers what he would bring to the table. >> i think i would bring a lot of discipline and a focus and a knowledge of the world, what's going on around the world, certainly on the foreign policy side, national security. what's happening in the homeland is unbelievable, the ideas about what donald trump has said about immigration i think are very true.
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reporter: in addition to picking a running mate, donald trump looking at who he will put in his cabinet. tom cotton, gingrich, christie. secretary of veterans affairs, so a lot going on in the next week. bill: john robert in chicago. martha: big morning for attorney general loretta lynch. she heads to the capitol for the first time since closing the books on the clinton investigation. it's set to get under way a half-hour from now. it's expected to be a busy day on capitol hill and we'll go there next. >> there was nothing marked classified on my emails either sent or received. >> 110 emails in 52 email chains have been determined by the
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owning agency to contain classified information.
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martha: we are back and we are waiting for the senate testimony from attorney general loretta lynch. she'll get questions no doubt about her decision not to press charges against hillary clinton over the private email server issues. congress want an investigation into whether she lied in her sworn testimony to congress. >> the f.b.i. has the server that was used during the tenure of my state department service. >> secretary clinton used several different servers and administrators of those servers during her tenure at the state department. >> there was nothing marked classified. >> 110 emails have been
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determined by the agency to be marked classified. >> 8 of those chains contained information that was top secret at the time they were sent. 36 of those chains contained secret information. martha: rich lowry and kirsten powers. loretta lynch will get these questions and it will put it back in the bloodstream. >> it is. but it could turn into a situation where the republicans will start making this look too political. the damage has been done to hillary. the things comey said about her were pretty critical. it's true he didn't recommend prosecution. but he said things that were incredibly critical about her in terms of that she should have known this, even if she didn't
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know, she should have known. she was reckless and her staff was reckless. if i were republican i would leave it alone. they said they need a recommendation from congress. i think they are overplaying their hand. >> politically they may be. but i don't know how you look at what we just looked at. if you are a member of congress it feels like it's professional malpractice not to ask the question if what director comey said is true, what hillary clinton testified before congress is not true. >> clearly she told the public things that were untrue and she told congress things that were untrue. meeting the technical standard of the perjury statute, i doubt they will do that. even if they could, who's going to prosecute it, loretta lynch? we have been down this road.
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if they let her walk on the emails, they won't get her on perjury. it behooves republicans to draw eye attention to this. this is not a law enforcement issue. it's a political one. that's what comey did, he threw it out into the political realm. right now she is paying a pretty severe price. a "washington post" poll show 56% of people disapprove of the f.b.i. letting her off the hook. >> it seemed obvious that there were two different stories. i think people scratch their heads. it may be there is nothing worth pursuing. but why does she seem to have different rules than other people have. why would she not be under oath when she talked to the f.b.i. and apparently you don't have to be under oath.
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lying to the f.b.i. is obviously a violation. nobody thinks it will be pursued in this case. people say why, i don't get it. >> i think there is a question about why people have mishandled classified information and gone to jail. what i think director comey will say it goes to intent. in these situations people clearly knew what they were doing and even on the issue of whether she per injured herself -- whether she perjured herself, she should have known even if it didn't have the "c" on it. but it does seem unfair. but i do think we have to remember he did say hen't think she lied to the f.b.i.
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martha: we reiterated she'd felt bad about the whole thing and sort of understood and was chastened. we'll find out what that means. thanks, guys. >> 2-2. bill: that's a workout. my arms are tired just watching it. home run derby shattered the records. stanton hit 61 home runs. it took two rounds. the only player to have two
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20-plus home runs in a single derby showing. the guy is stacked. good stuff. martha: all right. this story that just broke a little while ago. tragedy on the train tracks. a deadly head-on collision along a european coastline. how this happened and who was lucky enough to get out of there alive. bill: jeb bush is talking. he will not go to cleveland but will he also sit out the vote in november. >> i can't vote for hillary clinton and i can't vote for donald trump. it breaks my heart. this is the first time in my life i am confronted with this dilemma. when consultant josh atkins books at
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martha: at least 20 people are dead in italy, dens are hurt. two trains hit each other head-on. rescue efforts are under way. we have local reports saying survivors are being pulled from the rubble, including a 7-year-old boy. no word yet on what caused the this crash. bill: jeb bush will not be in cleveland for the convention, but he's talking, warning no matter who wins in november, there is no good outcome for this election. >> trump to his credit was very smart at exploiting these kind of opportunities. he's a master at understanding how the media works, more than anybody i have seen in politics. the tragedy is there isn't going
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to be a wall built and mexico isn't going to pay for it. there is not going to be a ban on muslims. this is like an alternative universe he created. the reality is that's not going to happen. people will be deeply frustrated and the divides will grow in our country. i think people will feel betrayed. bill: bush is a long list of republicans who will not be in cleveland including his brother and father. the last two republican presidential nominees, mitt romney, john mccain and senator marco rubio. you heard jeb bush. what do you think? >> city was disappointed in that interview. he sounded like a poor loser. the idea that the country is going to feel betrayed. as a republican i felt betrayed by jeb bush.
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i thought he was on that stage with 16 others. donald defeated all of them. the people spoke. and it's not about jeb. it's about the will of the electorate. bill: he in that interview gave trump credit for running an effective campaign and called him good with the media. but jeb bush said you basically said my brother lied to get us into war. and i'm not going to stand for that. >> he doesn't have to stand for that. however, the presidency is much bigger than one insult. and the people -- after hearing that, the people still chose donald trump. it's incumbent on every republican to now stand behind donald and make him the best wee can make him. i think it's disingenuous particularly to go on a network
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that's so far left wing that he did one interview, one single interview. bill: do you think trump will build a wall? >> i think trump will do what he said, why not. i think these things will certainly -- you say things, then you get into office, and you learn the facts and details, then you tweak them to look at what will work. there will be some iteration of those things. bill: suggesting there is no perfect candidate. >> there is a threshold past which anybody that steps in the oval office must go past. i don't think either are hillary clinton or donald trump passed that threshold, in terms of character, trust were aniness, integrity.
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what do you do? i can't vote for hillary clinton or donald trump. this is the first time in my adult life i'm confronted with this dilemma. bill: in your republican circles which are prominent, how many republicans are still thinking like he is or have they been converted. >> very few. bill: very few converted or center few thinking that way.y . here is wait comes down to. we have two choices here. one choice we know. hoik, we know what she'll do in office because we have had it for 8 years. we know what to expect from hillary clinton. with donald trump we don't. but we know something is wrong, something is broken. something needs to be changed. so let's go with someone at least that can go in there and try. and maybe with all this behind him, he will rise to the occasion.
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history has been written about people. no one expected to rise to the occasion and became great. and i have -- bill: no one expected trump would be standing on that stage in cleveland. we'll see you in cleveland, however. martha, what's next. martha: we are minutes away from a showdown that will unfold on capitol hill. the attorney general loretta lynch will face questions about her handling of the clinton email controversy and the justice department's decision not to charge the former secretary of state. we'll go there live as soon as that gets under way. here is the house judiciary chairman with us moments ago. >> you don't have to prove intent. you only have to prove gross negligence. the f.b.i. director said this was extreme carelessness. so our question for the attorney general is the secretary of
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loretta lynch then said the department of justice had no plans to pursue any legal action against hillary clinton. we spoke with the chairman of the house judiciary committee, bob goodlatte, and got a sense of where they are going to go with the questions. bill: if you go back to the testimony at benghazi last fall, the question came up to the f.b.i. director, did she lie to congress. he said that was not part of our investigation. but the f.b.i. concluded there were thousands of work-related emails her lawyers did not turn over. and a handful of those emails turned out to be marked classified at the time. that was the f.b.i.'s conclusion. so there will be a question today as to whether or not there should be an investigation on whether she lied to congress. >> those questions have so many people scratching their heads.
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they are trying to figure out how you can sit in front of congress and with carefully parsed language and say nothing that was sent or received was marked classified. then you have the f.b.i. director step in front of the cameras and say we have hundreds that were sent and marked classified in one way or. >> the. and 7 or 8 that were top secret. how do you get away with that. bill: you are within four months of electing a new president. if they accept this recommendation today from the house committee to investigate hillary clinton even more it will continue to linker as a significant campaign issue. bret baier will talk about that and more as we continue at the top of the hour. when kevin jorgeson needs light, he trusts duracell quantum because it lasts longer. ♪ (duracell slamtones)
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martha: we are just moments away from the nation's top cop you could call her, the attorney general of the united states. she will take the hot seat moments from now.
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the house judiciary committee is the one that will do questioning today. they will press for answer's from attorney general loretta lynch as she makes first appearance before congress in the decision not to prosecute hillary clinton for mishandling of classified information. they will also want to know about the private meeting with bill clinton. how did that whole thing come about? how did that transpire? was it really about golf and grandchildren for 37 minutes that is the kind of thing we expect to hear this morning. should get pretty interesting. welcome everybody. hour two of "america's newsroom." i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer. today's oversight committee hearing getting underway. the committee examining a wide range of issues. recent terror attacks in san bernardino and orlando. all that will be on the table but a major focus will be hillary clinton's email and server controversy and the lack of consequences for mishandling national secrets. the committee chair who you will
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see live in a moment is bob goodlatte. he is republican who is with us a bit earlier today on "america's newsroom." he frame is it this way. >> this administration prosecute ad number of people including some who simply took documents from work to home. one pled guilty of those charges. so you don't have to prove intent. you only have to prove gross negligence. fbi director said that this was extreme carelessness. so our question for the attorney general, one of many will be, is the secretary of state above the law? the fact of the matter is that the findings of the fbi director in his announcement were very clear. they contradicted a number of statements that she made, a number of those statements were made under oath before a congressional committee. martha: so we expect some heated questioning no doubt this
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morning when that testimony gets underway. a lot of buzz in the room already. joining me bret baier. bill: anchor of "special report." good to have you in the new york this morning. what do you expect this morning? >> it will be interesting. there will be a lot of questions about the decision why they decided not to go forward. i think the whole question of no reasonable prosecutor would take this case will be probed to the attorney general. i think you're right, i think they're going to spend some time on the decision-making process of having the former president on her plane. where was her staff? where was his staff? why wasn't that thought of? she has answered questions from jonathan capehart from "the washington post." she will you now answer questions on capitol hill. martha: it may be that she, her response is sort of a version of what we heard before which is that it was purely social meeting. that she regrets the perception that came away from it and that that was why she leaned ever more heavily on whatever the suggestion was from the fbi which she quickly followed up
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and said that they were going to drop charges. you have this new poll out, bret, 5% of the americans say they do not understand why no charges were brought. it is probably a moot point at this point but you can't make those questions go away that are clearly very important to people. >> no, that's true. the fbi director when he laid out all of the ways that hillary clinton throughout this explanation has not been truthful in saying all the things that they knew, that was devastating politically but not legally and i think you will hear similar questions to the attorney general. i think democrats point to one word that is overreach. often in these investigations republicans are overreaching. we'll see where the line is here. i think a lot of people wondering why these charges didn't go forward and the attorney general will have to answer for that even though she essentially stepped out of it saying she will take the fbi's recommendation no matter what it was.
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martha: congress has a personal question about what happened in front of congress with regard to hillary clinton because she sat there in front of the cameras said she never sent or received anything that was classified and yet the investigation found it happened hundreds of times. in fact seven or eight of those times were with top secret information. regardless of what the fbi did, we feel we were lied to. the republicans are going to argue and we want to see some follow-through on that. >> that will be interesting to see how the attorney general answers that because under oath lying based on what the fbi director said they know and what hillary clinton said under oath is punishable. martha: yeah. >> but it is also, an interesting point to when you take up that case. what are the choices that you make? she will have to walk that line and explain to people, not only in that room but at home why they're not going forward with anything. martha: yeah. i mean the fbi says that she
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wasn't under oath when she answered questions although lying to the fbi under any circumstances is pursuable charge and now congress will want to know whether or not she told them the truth. the sort of reasoning, bret, the legal reasoning we got from comey she didn't know she was doing it. it will be interesting to see if loretta lynch gives her the same out. >> yeah. and you have listened to hillary clinton talk about this over the past few days when she has been asked about it, essentially it is the same answers and she says that comey is on the same page with her but people listened to those answers that he gave and hear something very different. martha: we're all heading to cleveland shortly. >> tomorrow night. martha: it is unprecedented to have a candidate for the major american party under this kind of scrutiny? think about this. this is hillary clinton who is about to accept the nomination of her party and we're still discussing fbi investigations and now she is going to be the topic of discussion with the attorney general.
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it is just unprecedented. >> democrats will say listen this is part of republican efforts that goes back to many, many years to go after the clintons but it feels different and i think that poll at 56% registered voters tells a different story. as far as whether it affects her against donald trump that's really the question. martha: that is the huge political question. that is the thing we'll not know until november. it is one of those data points we look back say that was a turning point, it actually meant something or it was not and it did not have traction with the american people. we watch the room file in. bill watching all of this with us as well as we get ready to hear from loretta lynch, bill. bill: the questions will be pointed. and james comey from last thursday, that was pretty gripping testimony. it went on for hours. we didn't move. we were talk to it all day. we'll see how it goes in a moment. loretta lynch is not in the room yet. so when she comes in we'll take you back to there. there is a lot of other news today.
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want to take you down to dallas. president obama will be there a bit later this afternoon and this will be a moment. the president scheduled to attend a memorial service for the five police officers killed in a shocking sniper attack last thursday. the president will be accompanied by the vice president joe biden and former president george w. bush who as you know makes his home in dallas, texas. william la jeunesse is there live now with more. good morning, william. reporter: well, bill, the president has a challenge, to unite a country divided over race and to repair a city shattered by a racial attack that killed five officers. moments ago i talked to two of the surgeonses who treated those who died about what they wanted to hear from the president including dr. alex eastman, who thursday night worked his second job as a member of the dallas s.w.a.t. team. >> i don't care if you're black, white, police, civilian, male, female, doesn't matter, there
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are things that bind us together as human beings, as americans, that we simply have to focus on to move us out of this crisis of violence in our communities. reporter: so you know, bill, on more than one occasion the president said words matter. today he will be put to the test. back to you. bill: william, what a moment that will be, for a town still grieving along with the country. william la jeunesse, live in dallas, texas. martha: we're watching members as they get ready to do the grilling on loretta lynch the attorney general. she has been seated at the table, which is always a hot seat particularly so for her today. there is chairman bob goodlatte as he gets into the beginning stages of the introductions for all of this. we conditiontin to keep a close eye on it. she will start speaking moments away. let's listen in. >> the department of justice i will begin by recognizing myself for an opening statement. welcome, general lynch, to your second appearance before the house judiciary committee.
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the flags over the capitol are flying at half-mast in recognition of the five dallas police officers murdered in cold blood last week. this was not an arrest gone wrong. the person who carried out this appalling act of terror and hate stalked and murdered five police officers and injured seven others and two civilians ostensibly in retaliation for recent police shootings including the tragic and fatal shootings in minnesota and louisiana last week. we mourn all those tragedies. the divisiveness between our police and our communities must end and i ask that we observe a moment of silence for all those who have lost their lives in these tragedies. [moment of silence] thank you. we must not give in to hate and let emotion replace reason. we must bridge the divide that
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separates us and embrace one another as americans. we must have faith that the institutions that have sustained our republic for the last 240 years will deliver fair, impartial justice to victims of crime and punish the guilty. i look forward to your thoughts on this important matter. the american people also expect government officials to abide by the law just like everyone else. to be reprimanded when they break the law. that is not the case for former secretary of state hillary clinton. last week fbi director james comey announced that he would not recommend criminal charges against secretary clinton for her use of a private email server while at the state department and the mishandling of classified information. the timing of and circumstances surrounding this announcement are particularly troubling. on monday, june, 27, attorney general lynch, you met privately
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with former president bill clinton aboard your plane on the tarmac of the phoenix airport. despite the fact that his wife was a target of an ongoing criminal investigation. this encounter is even more troubling if the fbi is also investigating improper donations to the clinton foundation which was founded by former president clinton, a member of the foundation's board of directors. five days later the fbi held it is first and only interview with secretary clinton after a year-long investigation. three days later, and on the first day back from a holiday weekend, director comey publicly announced that he was not recommending charges against secretary clinton. and a mere 24 hours later, attorney general lynch, you issued a press release announcing that no charges would be brought against secretary clinton. while director comey may have refused to criminally indict hillary clinton, his public
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pronouncement and subsequent congressional testimony is nonetheless a public indictment of her conduct and character. though director comey declined to recommend charges he laid out sufficient facts to warrant a referral to the justice department. that forces one to confront the question of whether someone who was not in secretary clinton's position would have fared as well with the fbi as she did. secretary clinton stated repeatedly no classified information was contained within her private email system. this is not true. the fbi found 110 emails in 52 email chains containing classified information at the time they were sent or received. secretary clinton stated repeatedly that no information in her emails was marked classified. this is not true. the fbi found that some of these emails were marked classified. secretary clinton said all relevant emails were returned to the state department. this is not
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>> the news of the past few days have been fully of questions have been fully of questions the safety of our prefers. -- police officers. we take the burden on each of those questions on your office. it will not have escaped your attention that we're in the middle of an election season. you may also know that there are just three working days left until we break for the summer and really, not much more time after that, until the congress
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ends. elections are about choices. and a short working schedule is about setting priorities. as you are no doubt aware one of this committee's top legislative priorities is criminal justice reform. we have already found consensus on a range of such issues including sentencing, prison, asset forfeiture reform. the chairman of this committee and i also stand on the precipice of an agreement on policing reform legislation. given the events of the past week, the need for this measure has never been more urgent. questions about the use of lethal force by police are not new. but the nation is newly engaged in the issue after ferguson,
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staten island, cleveland, north charleston and baltimore. over the past week we saw the same sad themes play out in baton rouge and minnesota, as well as the horrific killing of five police officers in dallas. i believe it is more critical than ever that we reach a final agreement on police accountability and standards. at the time when african-americans are 30% more likely than whites to be pulled over after, over while driving, more than three times more likely to have their car searched, and more than twice as likely to be shot by police, it is imperative that we restore public faith in our criminal justice system. we must finish this work for
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both the communities that feel so much anguish this week, and for the officers who patrol our streets every day. it is my sincere hope that we consider this matter before we adjourn. unfortunately there are many other areas where we have not been able to advance bipartisan initiatives. i'd like to tell you that we are prepared to have a substantive discussion about the manner in which we will restore section 5 of the voting rights act. the preclearance mechanism was used for decades by your department to restore a sense of fairness in jurisdictions that have known prejudice for generations. since it was struck down, we have seen at least 17 states
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enact measures designed to restrict access to the ballot box. bipartisan legislation has been introduced that would have restored this vital tool long before voting began this year. but mr. sensenbrenner's of wisconsin's legislation sits untouchedded. i would also like to tell you that we are prepared to address the scourge of gun violence in this country. the events last week in baton rouge and minnesota and in dallas and the anger and sadness felt in communities across the nation are what one commentator aptly called, the horrific predictable result of a widely-armed citizenry. this epidemic claims nearly
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33,000 individuals every year. it affects our churches, our schools, our homes. it places our police officers into the direct line of fire. it makes our citizens afraid. but we've not held a single hearing on this topic. not when 26 children and teachers were murdered at sandy hook. not when our colleague was shot in phoenix. and not when the body count reached 49 in orlando. last month every democratic member of this committee wrote to our chairman goodlatte with a list of specific policy proposals to address this violence and to date i'm sorry to say we have received no response.
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i would also like to tell you, madam attorney general, that we have an answer for the millions of undocumented immigrants who came here in search after better life but who are forced to live in the shadows. some of us have put a great deal of effort into antagonizing and vilifying that community but this committee has offered very few solutions, acknowledging that these families are here to stay. but elections are about choices, madam attorney general. there are only three working days, some count it less, left this month and then we adjourn for seven weeks. how will my colleagues on the other side of the aisle choose to fill that time? today apparently secretary hillary clinton's email takes
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precedence over gun violence and civil rights. let us be clear. the criminal investigation is closed. there was no intentional wrongdoing. director comey, whose reputation for independence and integrity is unquestioned, has explained his reasoning in great detail. if any of my colleagues are not yet convinced it is because they do not want to be convinced and in their zeal to call secretary clinton a liar, or maybe even a criminal, despite the fact that, and despite the law, i fear we will have missed an opportunity to engage with you on more worthy subjects. we may also spend time today
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talking about the alleged wrong doings of commissioner koskinen of the internal revenue service. some of my colleagues want to use one of the remaining working days before the break to move his impeachment directly to the house floor. i hope they do not. in many ways this gesture is totally meaningless. there is bipartisan consensus that the commissioner's critics have not proved their case and there is virtually no chance of a conviction in the senate. but i believe that the rush to impeachment, although in e-- ineffectual would set a dangerous precedent for the congress and american people. once we cross this line, we write a new rule, whatever the merits of the charges, the house
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may impeach a official without due process, without the right to counsel, without the right to present evidence to this committee and without the right question the evidence presented against him. elections are about choices. and here is the choice we face as the clock runs down on the 114th congress. we can spend a few days that remain on conspiracy theories and political sniping that does little for our constituents that drive them further apart from their neighbors. or we can attempt to solve even one of the long list of problems facing this country today. we should choose to do work. the work we were sent here to do. or the public is right to choose somebody else to do it. and so i look forward to our
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conversation today, madam attorney lynch. i thank the chairman, and i yield back. >> thank you, mr. conyers. without objection all of the members opening statements will be made a part of the record. we welcome our distinguished witness today and general lynch, if you would please rise i will begin by swearing you in. do you swear that the testimony you are about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but theruth, so help you god? >> i do. >> thank you. let the record reflect that the witness has responded in the affirmative. attorney general loretta lynch was sworn in as the 83rd attorney general of the united states on april 27, 2015. miss lynch began her career in public service by joining the united states attorney's office for the ea district of new york. after nine years miss lynch was appointed by president
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bill clinton to lead that office as united states attorney, a post she held until 2001. miss lynch worked in private practice until 2010 when president obama asked her to resume leadership of the united states attorney's office in brooklyn. miss lynch is a graduate of harvard college and harvard law school. general lynch, welcome. your entire testimony will be made a part of the record and we ask you summarize your testimony in five minutes. thank you and you may begin. >> thank you, sir. good morning, chairman goodlatte, ranking member conyers and the distinguished members of this committee. i'm grateful for the opportunity to appear before you today to discuss how we can continue working together to insure the security of our nation and the strength of our communities and the safety of our people. now as we gather here this morning, i know that we are all thinking of the two bailiffs who were killed and the sheriff's deputy who was wounded in a
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shooting in a courthouse in michigan yesterday. the department of justice stands ready to provide whatever help we can to state and local authorities as they investigate this heinous crime and our sincerest condolences are with the friends, the colleagues, and the loved ones of the devoted public servants that we lost. now of course this incident follows on the heels of a series of devastating events that rocked our nation last week. the tragic deaths of alton sterling in louisiana, and philando castile in minnesota and the deplorable murder of five brave dallas police officers. loren ariens, michael krol, michael smith, brent thompson and patrick zamarripa, who were protecting a peaceful protest along with several of their comrades who were wounded. the department of justice including the fbi, atf, the u.s. marshals service and our u.s. attorney's office in the northern district of texas is
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working closely with our state and local counterparts and we will offer any assistance that we can as the investigation in dallas unfolds. and among other resources we will send assistance to the victims and to their families. our hearts are literally broken for the families and loved ones of those we lost in these tragic events and our gratitude goes out to the brave men and women who wear the badge, who carry our safety on their shoulders and who risked their lives every day to keep us safe. now as we grapple with the aftermath of thee events the department of justice will continue to do everything in our power to build the bonds of trust and cooperation between law enforcements and the communities that we serve. that work has never been more difficult, nor more important. we will continue to offer our state and local partners funding, training, technical assistance, for critical programs as well as for assets like body-worn cameras,
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de-escalation training and education and implicit bias. in fact in the last month we announced that we would begin providing implicit bias training to federal law enforcement agents and prosecutors. we will continue to promote the recommendations of the president's task force on 21st century policing through training and technical assistance. our civil rights division plays a critical role in insuring constitutional policing and accountability and in rebuilding trust where trust has eroded. and through our office of justice programs and our office of community oriented policing services, we will continue to give local departments the tools they need and training they require to come home safely, from funds for bulletproof vests to training in officer health, safety and wellness. now at the same time we are working to support police and citizens in their efforts to build stronger and more united
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communities, we remain committed to keeping those communities safe and secure. just one month ago today 49 innocent lives were taken in an attack on the pulse nightclub in orlando, and appalling attack of terror and hate that underscored urgency on fronting threats to our nation they emerge and whatever form they take. there is no responsibility that this department takes more seriously. we're moving aggressively against those who seek to receive training from or are inspired by foreign violent extremist groups. we've arrested more than 90 individuals since 2013 for conduct related to foreign fighter activity and homegrown violent extremism. and we are working closely with our counterparts abroad to pursue terrorists and investigate attacks around the world. as the recent incidents in turkey, bangladesh, iraq and saudi arabia have reminded us, terror knows no borders. in the face of violent
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extremism, we must stand with our global partners in unity, in readiness and in resolve. now, i want to close with a comment about the investigation of secretary clinton's use of a personal email server during her time as secretary of state. as you are aware last week i met with director comey and career prosecutors and agents who conducted that investigation. i received and accepted their unanimous recommendation that the thorough year-long investigation be closed and no charges be brought against any individuals within the scope of the investigation. and while i understand that this investigation has generated significant public interest, as attorney general it would be inappropriate for me to comment further on the underlying facts of the investigation or the legal basis for the team's recommendation. but i can tell you that i am extremely proud of the tremendous work of the dedicated prosecutors and agents on this matter. thank you for this opportunity to make this opening statement.
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>> thank you, general lynch. we'll now proceed under the five-minute rule with questions for the witnesses and i'll begin by recognizing myself. before being confirmed as attorney general in may of last year you were first nominated by president obama to serve as the united states attorney for the eastern district of new york and you were originally appointed to the u.s. attorney post in 1999 by former president bill clinton. the exist continues of secretary clinton's private email server was first brought to light in march of last year, one month before your confirmation as attorney general. a few months after your confirmation inspectorses general and state and national intelligence request the department of justice to investigate whether classified information was stored on her private email servers. the fbi then opened an investigation into the matter. given that she was a political appointee of your current boss, and more importantly the wife of your previous boss, why did you
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not see fit to recuse yourself from the investigation? wouldn't recusal or appointment of a special prosecutor have removed any appearance of impropriety given your service during bill clinton's presidency. >> thank you for the question, mr. chairman. as i said on several occasions before when the referral came into the department of justice it was received and referred to experienced dedicated agents and prosecutors who handle matters of this type every day with independence, with efficiency, with thoroughness and the matter was handled like any other matter. it was reviewed, through the chain by those independent career agents and prosecutors and in considering the matter there was no connection, there was no need for recusal or independent prosecutor. and as i indicated before i'm incredibly proud of dedicated work they did over the past year. >> let me follow up on that then. two weeks ago, roughly a year into the fbi's investigation and a mere week before director
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comey's announcement you met privately with your former boss, former president bill clinton on your plane at phoenix airport. why was this meeting particularly in light of your previous appointment by president clinton not grounds for recusing yourself no with respect to my conversation that i had with former president clinton in phoenix it, was a conversation that was held on the airplane, on the tarmac. former president indicated he wanted to say hello. and i agreed to say hello. and we had a social conversation. nothing of any relationship to the email investigation was discussed. nor were any specific cases or matters before the department of justice discussed. >> we'll have follow-up questions to that later but let me turn your attention to director comey's conclusions on a variety of points. secretary clinton stated that she never sent or received information marked as classified on her server. director comey stated that was
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not true. do you agree with director comey. >> director comey has chosen to provide great detail into the basis of his recommendations that were ultimately provided to me. he has chosen to provide detailed statements and i would refer you to those statements. i as attorney general am not able to provide any further comments on facts or substance of the investigation. >> general lynch, i think you would agree the ultimate responsibility for a prosecutorial decision not rest with the federal bureau of investigation but with the department of justice which you head. have you not taken a close look at the work done by director comey, especially given the extreme national interest in this issue to make a determination yourself whether you and those working for you agree or disagree with director comey. >> as i have indicated i received the recommendation of the team and that time was composed of prosecutors and agents. it was unanimous recommendation as to how to resolve the
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investigation. as to what the information they had received -- >> do you agree with the conclusion? >> and i accepted that recommendation. i saw no reason not to accept it. and again i reiterate my pride and faith in their work. >> secretary clinton stated she did not email any classify material. director comey stated there was classified email emailed. do you agree with director comey's conclusion about that. >> i would have to refer you to director comey's statements for basis of recommendation. >> director comey stated there is evidence of potential violations of statutes regarding the handling of classified information. do you agree with director comey's statement? >> again i would refer you to director comey for any further explanation as to the basis for his recommendations. the recommendations that i received from the team including director comey was the investigation be resolved without charges. >> but director lynch, director comey made a recommendation and made a recommendation to the department of justice which you head. you would have to come to the final conclusion on whether or
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not to act. i would prime that before you acted you would look at his conclusions and determine whether you agreed with them or not? >> as i have indicated i received a briefing from the team which included not just the prosecutors but the agents and director comey. their unanimous recommendation was that the matter be resolved in the way which we've announced and i accepted their recommendation. >> let me ask you one final question that does not regard the specific facts with regard to secretary clinton but director comey said there was not clear evidence that secretary clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws govern handling of classified information. my question for you is, is intent to violate the law a requirement under 18 usc section 793-f? >> congressman, i think the statutes that were considered here speak for themselves. to answer further would require a discussion of the facts and analysis of this matter which as i have indicate i'm not in
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position to provide at this time. i would refer you to director comey's discussion for that. as i indicated the team reviewed this matter and it was a unanimous team decision. >> and you made a decision following their recommendation to you, that you were not going to prosecute and matter was closed, is that correct? >> i made the decision some time ago i would accept the recommendation of that team and was awaiting that recommendation. when i received it, there was no basis not to accept it and again i reiterate my pride and faith them. >> thank you. i appreciate your faith in them. the concern here is regard to your sworn oath to uphold the united states constitution and the laws thereunder, including 18 usc section 793-f and 18 usc section 1924 and to conclude that no prosecution would take place without examining and drawing conclusions regarding the questions that i have just asked does not seem to be a responsible way to uphold your
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constitutionally-sworn oath. at this time i recognize the ranking member of the committee, the gentleman from michigan, mr. conyers for his questions. >> thank you. thank you for being here again, and, attorney general, and thank you very much for frank and candid discussion that is with us that is now taking place. i'm looking for answers and views of some events that i'm going to string together and ask you to discuss as far as you can in an appropriate manner. baton rouge, louisiana, police shot and killed ashton, al ton
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sterling. video shows he was shot while being pinned to the ground by two officers. outside of minneapolis police shot and killed philando castile at what should have been a routine traffic stop. he was armed and reports suggest that he repeatedly told police that he had a valid permit for the weapon. in dallas, a gunman killed five police officers and wounded seven others in what appeared to be a well-planned attack. this terrible act in the middle of and other wise peaceful protest in a city that has become a model for community of engaged policing and so, i think you're qualified to advise us here as the, both the chief law enforcement officer in the united states, and the first
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african-american woman to hold that post. how can we make sense of these events during these trying times, ma'am? >> thank you, congressman, for the opportunity to speak on these issues. i believe that you have truly outlined the issue of the day facing our nation and it is my hope that as we all look at these tragic incidents, that we will take the opportunity to draw closer to each other, to have the difficult conversations about race and policing in this country, involving all sides, involving all issues and all points of view. i have spent the last year as attorney general touring this great country, meeting specifically on the issue of police and community relations and i have sought out jurisdictions that have had extremely troubled relationships but in fact made the conscious decision to put themselves back
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from the brink and develop a positive relationship between the community and law enforcement. it can be done. i have seen it done. you have cited dallas as one example of a police department through its community policing efforts has crafted a strong bond with its community so that when there is tension there is an outlet, there is a way for discussion. i believer congressman, that the key to many of the problems that we face is communication. communication and truly listening to one another. listening to individuals who feel, for whatever reason, separated and at a distance from the goals of this great country. individuals who feel that they do not have an opportunity to fully participate in this great democracy, as well as listening to our brave members of law enforcement who talk to me every day with great poignancy about why they joined this wonderful profession. their desire to protect, to serve, to put young people on the right path, to build a better country and to in fact
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build strong communities because they live in those communities. all of that must be recognized as well as the pain of law enforcement who feel themselves under attack as well. by recognizing our common humanity, our common loss and our common goals we can in fact work on this difficult problem. >> thank you for your response. i would like to ask you in a friendly way, how we can, as a committee, what is it that we can do to address the problem? and we, we seek your friendly advice, in that direction, because we want to work together with all of the branches of government and the house judiciary committee is in a very unusually important position to play an important role in this.
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>> yes, thank you, congressman. the department of justices actively engaged in working witw enforcement to further these discussions and of course efforts in our grant-making arena are important there and we welcome and appreciate the support of this committee and others in making sure that the department's grant-making operations are fully funded. we also provide a great deal of support for law enforcement through training and technical assistance. for example, the bulletproof vest program and our funding for body-worn cameras for so many police departments. again we thank this committee and so many members of congress who have provided bipartisan support for those efforts. we would hope the efforts in funding in particular would continue. those are just a few of examples of ways in which we hope to continue to receive support. i would also note that the issue of criminal justice reform, is a larger canvas upon which this conversation is being writ.
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certainly we support the efforts by so many on this committee and others throughout congress to push that important legislation forward. we have provided assistance in terms of many of the details that have been raised in the context of that legislation. i know this committee in particular has spent so much time and effort on that. we appreciate that and all issues that have been raised and that is important way to making our criminal justice system more effective, more efficient and more fair. that will go a long way in restoring faith and trust in the overall criminal justice system which is problem often raised to my attention during my travels. so the department looks forward to continuing to support those important efforts. >> i'm so pleased that you would be with us today and i hope that we can continue this communication because it's very important for all of the citizens in our nation, and i thank the chair.
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>> thank you, mr. conyers. the chair now recognizes the gentleman from wisconsin, mr. send sensenbrenner for five minutes. >> thank you very much, mr. chairman, and thank you, general lynch, for being with us today. you are in charge of the department of justice. the buck stops with you and i am concerned that you keep on saying that you have deferred the authority that by law is yours to director comey. let me give it an example. mr. comey has said that secretary clinton was extremely careless in her handling of highly-classified and very sensitive information. now, the criminal statute uses the word, gross negligence, and i can't for the life of me figure out what the difference between gross negligence and extremely careless is unless one really wants to parse some words. now, secondly the misdemeanor statute does not require intent.
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it is a strict liability statute and it relates to the removal and retention of classified information. so it doesn't matter whether secretary clinton had the intent to do that or not. the fact is that the fbi said that she did it. now, i think that what director comey has said is that secretary clinton's actions essentially meet the definition for prosecution under the statute. why did you defer to director comey when the responsibility is yours? >> thank you, thank you congressman, for the question. let me be clear, that my decision was to accept the recommendation of the team of agents and investigators who worked on this and these are the career attorneys, as well as the dedicated investigators, including fbi director who worked on that matter over a year. they reviewed the facts, they followed the fact, they looked
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at the law, they applied the facts to that law and came up with a unanimous recommendation, a joint recommendation in effect that was provided to me. >> i have a limited amount of time. you know, the fact is that whether it's extremely careless, or gross negligence, and a strict liability statute, i think that the language of the statute is clear. now, i have noted that the justice department over the last several years has prosecuted several servicemen for doing the exact same thing that secretary clinton did. in one case actually reach adjudgement of a court that prohibited that serviceman from ever having a security classification again. now you have a problem, madam attorney general, that people think that there is a different standard between the servicemen
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and secretary clinton and the fact that the language is almost synonymous, if not synonymous saying no prosecution of secretary clinton and prosecution and conviction of the servicemen. you have a burden i think to convince to the american public that you don't have a double-standard. you're not meeting the burden, how do you plan to change the argument that you make to the american public so that they can be convinced that the thing was correct, and that you made the right decision, rather than simply deferring to people in the fbi and prosecutors? >> congressman, every case stands on its own separate facts and application of those facts to the law. so you would have to refer to the specific facts of the other matters that you're referring to. with respect to the investigation into the former secretary's handling of classified information, or private email system, again, i tell you, i can tell you, and
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this entire committee, and the american people, that all of the relevant facts were considered, investigated thoroughly, and reviewed by the entire team, which again is composed of career, independent, investigators as well as lawyers, and their recommendation on a full and thorough analysis was the matter be resolved in the way which it was recommended to me. as i have indicated i determined to accept that recommendation and did in fact accept that recommendation. >> one final question, one of the service people who was prosecuted, basically sent an email out that his fellow marines were in danger. he ended up getting prosecuted for warning his fellow marines their lives may be in danger. now, here in the case of mrs. clinton the private email arrangement was simply to avoid
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public scrutiny. so in terms of the intent of major jason bresler and secretary clinton, one, major bressler was doing it to save his colleagues. the other, secretary clinton was to avoid transparency. now in terms of the bottom line, that's the hoop that you have to jump through in order to retain and regain your credibility with the american public. i hope that you will be able to do that, and i yield back. >> chair thanks the gentleman. recognizes gentleman from new york, mr. nadler, for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. thank you, miss lynch, for appearing here today and for your service as attorney general. i'm sure many of my republican colleagues will spend their time discussing the overhyped matter concerning secretary clinton's emails but i'm going to focus instead on more important issues
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facing this country. we're all sickened by the killings of alton sterling in baton rouge and filandro castile outside of st. paul. according to aclu, mr. castile was the 123rd african-american to be killed by law enforcement. that is no excuse for last week's vicious murders of five police officers in dallas but the knowledge that mr. sterling's and mr. castile's deaths come on long list of senseless killings of black men, women and children whose encounters with the police might have gone differently had they not been black must spur us to take. "black lives matter" is not hashtag but imperative. i appreciate the work your department is doing in this regard and i hope you keep us informed on that but i want to go to a different matter, related unfortunately, exactly one month ago today, a lone gunman killed 49 people and wounded more than 50 others in lgbt nightclub in orlando. mass shootings are now all too common occurrence in this
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country n 2016 there were 229 mass shootings, defined as one as shootings in which at least four people are shot of the as you know, every day an average, nearly 300 americans are shot in murders, assaults, suicide attempts, accidents and police station, police actions. 48 are children and teenagers. this is distinctly problem. more than 33,000 americans lose their lives to gun violence each year. in the united kingdom, in 2011, 146 deaths to gun violence. denmark, 71, portugal, 142, japan, just 30. united states, 33,000. you can not tell me, no one can tell me that the american people are 1,000 times more mentally ill than people in these other countries. a recent study in the american journal of medicine found compared to 22 other high income countries the gun related murder rate in the united states is 25 times higher.
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we have held exact, this is, there is epdemmic of gun violence. how has the majority in congress responded? with emergency hearings about hillary clinton and lois lerner's emails. we held of course zero hearings on gun violence. we have passed no bills to address the issue. we have done nothing to require universal background checks. we continue to allow military-style assault weapons on our streets. we have not prevented those on no-fly list from purchasing guns. i was proud to join john lewis and nearly entire democratic caucus to protest the republican abdication on this issue. mrs. lynch, what does the assassination of five dallas police officers last week tell us about the nra's favorite adage, the only thing that stop as bad guy is a gun is a good guy with a gun? police officers after all were armed? what about armed society a polite society? the. >> congressman, thank you for raising this morn issue of gun
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violence in our society. i don't have comments on nra position or statement. >> never mind their position, what do you think of the estimate that the only thing that stop as bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. is that true? does it work? >> congressman the issue is as usual doesn't really lend itself well to aphorisms and short statements. and it is my hope that the work of many on this committee and indeed throughout congress in having discussion that has begun on this issue will continue so that we can in fact continue to work on the serious issues of access to firearms in our society. earlier this year, i did make several recommendations to the white house which were accepted for important ways for dealing with this issue. ranging from clarifying guidance on those who are engaged in the business and therefore, must have provide background checks for purchasers, ranging from
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clarifying rules on acquisitions of certain types of firearms, and by those in certain business capacities such as trust, but also, as part of that, a very important part of that, was a request for additional funding for atf, for more resources to deal with the information and issues arising out of gun violence as well as funding for hhs, to deal with the issues of mental health that place so many americans in jeopardy. >> a loophole in federal law allows the transfer of a firearm to anybody after three business days even if a background check is not complete. last year the fbi concluded that the suspect in the shooting in charleston was able to purchase a gun through this loophole. should that policy change? should we hold the transfer of firearms until the background check has been completed? >> well, congressman, in order to change that rule it would require congressional action. three-day waiting period is part of congressional action that already has been voted on by congress.
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certainly it is a fact that with the rise in purchases and the increased use on the mixed background system, there is ever more use of that system. we are working to improve the nix system. make it as efficient as possible. we expanded number of personnel working on those background checks. we're working also to improve the automated portion of the nix system so dealers who go through the information get it more quickly and able to respond by either by preceding or denying a sale or in other ways appropriate. so we're working in the system as it is currently structured. in order to change that it would require congressional action. >> my time is expiring i want to briefly mention one more issue. we've been following department review of consent decrease that cover ascap and bmi. but they are moving forward with interpretation of the decrees requiring these organizations to license works on 100% basis
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instead of the current practice of frack al licensing in conflict with the formal opinion of the u.s. register of copyrights. i have heard from numerous songwriters and constituents greatly concerned about the disruption this will cause in the industry and creative process. several parties involved raised a host of other issues related to consent decrease as well. can you clarify for the committee the status of the department's review of the consent decrease and process moving forward. >> time for the gentleman has expired. the witness will be permitted to briefly answer the question. >> thank you, mr. chairman. thank you, congressman. the antitrust division is in review of consent decree which dates to 1941. it is utilizing a public comment system. after going through an initial round and receiving public comment, another round of public comment was also opened. those comments are still being reviewed. stakeholders are being consulted with, and my understanding that the antitrust division will be wrapping up this matter shortly and will be making public its findings. we will of course make sure
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they're made available to congress. i believe they would be in any event provided to you but we will certainly make sure they are provided to you. >> thank you very much. >> the chair recognizes the -- martha: loretta lynch taking some fairly intense questions there about why she just accepted the findings of the fbi director and why as the nation's top attorney general and law enforcement officer she did not pursue the matter further. she says she always said she would accept the recommendation of those career professionals as she put it who were involved in the investigation of that case. a bit frustrating for republicans pressing for more on that, at least so far, bill. bill: this is steve shabby now, republican congressman from ohio. often times, perhaps the question about the server investigation came up. she referred it to the fbi. this hearing will continue. our coverage will continue here on fox as we say, so long for now. for martha, i'm bill. martha: wait for this afternoon, for the coverage of the
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president and of course in dallas as they remember those lost. also a big topic of discussion that loretta lynch also took some questions on. issue of guns in this country and more to come. we will see you back here. have a good day, everybody. jon: we'll take it from here. new action from capitol hill on two big stories, policing and race. the decision not to charge hillary clinton in her email controversy with the nation's top law enforcer now on the hot seat in front after congressional committee. i'm jon scott. >> i'm heather nauert in for jenna lee. what a busy day we have, jon scott. loretta lynch testifying now before the house judiciary committee. that is live look for right there. house lawmakers holding a hearing for the justice department over entire backdrop of the dallas police massacre and spate of deadly police shootings. as the attorney general


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