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a fox news reporting special. takeover the trump convention. a curtain raiser on the gop convention here in cleveland and a look at the future gop in the era of trump. don't miss it. thanks for watching. bill returns monday. continuing coverage of breaking news here on fox. breaking tonight, two huge stories unfolding as we watch both new fallout from last night's horrifying terror attack in france and today an armed battle for power in the streets of turkey. one of our most important allies in the middle east. welcome to a very busy night here on "the kelly file," everyone. i'm megyn kelly, and all hell is breaking loose in turkey right now. watch. [ gunfire ] >> explosions and gunfire rocking the capital of turkey where reports of a military coup starting breaking just a few
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hours ago. the u.s. cares a lot about turkey. a lot. which has played a key role in our fight against isis. just look at where it's located. look at this map i'm putting up for you. now, we're not sure who is in control at this hour who is trying to take control, or how this is going to end. we do know that americans are being told to take shelter, to stay away from the embassies, and to stay off of the streets. the turkish military has more fire power than almost any other country in the region much of it american-made. and in moments, formercia director james woolsey joins us on how high the stakes are here. but first there is breaking news on the attack in nice france last night. the heroes who brought it to an end and the heartbroken families who are still looking for missing loved ones. the death toll has now risen to 84 including 10 children. stuffed animals, strollers, and a child's bike were among the items investigators were combing through along a crime scene that stretches for more than a mile.
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more than 200 others were injured in the chaos. one marked by noises and cries that one witness said they will never forget. but we are also learning about some of the heroes who emerged amid the horrors, like the person on a motorcycle who tried to cut off the driver of that track before attempting to enter the moving vehicle. we're also learning that this attack might have continued were it not for another brave soul who reportedly jumped in front police were able to subdue the man inside. but the stories of the would of be heroes last night likely mean little to the families who lost their loved ones like sean and 11-year-old brodie copeland a father and son from texas who were on a family vacation and who are now being mourned by friends and loved ones a world away. look at that. look at that. we are also learning more about the man behind the attack whose home has been raided and
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reportedly his estranged wife has been taken into custody in the hours since his rampage on the french riviera. ali sue fawn is here on what more we are learning about the nice attacker. charles krauthammer weighs in on the president's response. then bridgit gabriel will wade into the fire storm. but we begin tonight with bill hemmer. co-anchor of america's newsroom who is live in nice france with more on what we witnessed last night. bill. >> reporter: megyn, good evening. 3:00 in the morning here. over my left shoulder a small candlelight vigil here. about a dozen or two people come by even at this late hour as the crowd starts to thin out here. the one remarkable thing is how many come over here and they sit or they stand, megyn, in complete silence. and that reflects what they're trying to understand on the inside. they exchange hugs and often
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there are tears that run down their face. this is another story that has hit this country yet again, trying to figure out why. for more than a mile a 31-year-old tunisian who was raised here in east france took an 18-ton truck and drove it at maximum speed, trying to hit as many people as possible along that treacherous, deadly route. and he was wildly successful at ripping the heart out of this country yet again. but there are many questions tonight. we're only 30 hours into this investigation. there's been no claim of responsibility. i think that's important so far because there was a claim in paris back in november. there was a claim at the brussels airport back in march. but so far, we have not been told of any. the other thing is that there is no link for this killer to an islamic radical group. maybe that changes. again, we're in the early stages of this. but so far, no evidence has
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turned up. throughout the country, though you hear from the president hollande who has really -- he's become the face of this tragedy for a country for more than a year now. he has issued a state of emergency that has now extended another three months. he's put 10,000 soldiers in different parts of the country of france. and on saturday when the sun comes up here in about four hours, they will begin three days of mourning throughout the country as well. one thing that is significant about hollande is that he talks about the terrorist as if he's going to take them out. that has not happened. and many are wondering tonight whether or not this is a country that can take on a challenge for a madman jumping in a truck that he rented telling police he had ice cream in the back of the truck, getting past that security line and doing the damage that he brought here. how do you stop that? that's the question they're asking in many parts of the world tonight, megyn.
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>> indeed. bill hemmer thank you, sir. we are also learning more about the terrorist behind the attack in france. just throughout the evening we're going to be popping up the situation in turkey on the screen for you as well so you can keep your eye on this attempted coup there and we'll get into why you should care. but the terrorist in france last night, we now know is a 31-year-old north african living in nice. and some terror experts say he fits what has now become a familiar profile. then today his ex-wife was taken into police custody, and we learned still more about him. trace gallagher is live in our new york city headquarters tonight with the very latest. >> reporter: megyn, we are learning a lot more about mohamed bouhlel, except for the motive whether he was inspired by radical beliefs or depressed by his impending divorce. but the family is now shining some light on the killer's background. his cousin telling the daily mail that he was, quote, a nasty piece of work and an unlikely jihadist someone who didn't follow any of the basic rules of islam. the cousin claims bouhlel drank
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alcohol, smoked ate pork took drugs, did not go to the mosque didn't pray and didn't observe ramadan. his relationship with his wife the mother of his three children had recently crumbled. the two were in the midst of a divorce, and those who knew him say he had a fierce temper. today on shepard smith reporting, i spoke with daily mail reporter nick faj. watch. >> well we do know for a fact is he repeatedly beat her and all the neighbors know what a violent, horrible man he was to her. he was finally kicked out of the family home two years ago and moved to a smaller flat down the road. >> reporter: there is no indication so far that the killer's ex-wife knew about his plan but she has been taken into custody both for questioning and for her own safety. and we are also learning the nice killer was having financial trouble as well. he lost his job as a delivery driver after falling asleep at the wheel and crashing into four cars. neighbors say he was a strange
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man, always looking at them oddly, staring at their daughters. and one neighbor even claims that after an argument recently bouhlel said to him, quote, one day you'll hear about me. investigators are now combing through evidence in his small apartment and following up on leads that at one time suggested he may have had an accomplice. megyn. >> trace, thank you. joining us now with more ali sue fant a former fbi supervisory agent who investigated the 9/11 terror attacks among many other. ali, good to see you tonight. you hear that quote from the cousin of the wife. he wasn't religious, didn't go to mosque didn't pray observe ramadan, ate pork took drugs. he was not a muslim she says. that's certainly how it sounds. what do you think? >> he fits the profile of many other people who joined isis and joined these extremist groups from france and from belgium. 80% of those who traveled for
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example, from belgium to syria and iraq to join extremist groups had criminal records, and they were not observe ant in any way, shape, or form. same thing in france. so that fits the profile. i mean i still remember 9/11. some of the hijackers went to a stripper joint before they boarded the plane. the leader of the operation had a fight with a bartender on how many shots of vodka he had because he thought the bartender was charging him more money. so a lot of these guys -- >> but let me ask you, is that cover? because we've been told by other terror experts that some of these islamic terrorists are told to lie, to adopt a more americanized lifestyle, for example, over here to act western so they're not suspicious or is that a genuine rejection of some of the tenants of islam, which certainly don't allow drinking and drugs and ca rousing by people who maybe have a foothold in islam but aren't
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true believers? >> it might be for some people it's a cover. but also from my experience in dealing with a lot of these guys and interrogating many of them you know religion is an afterthought usually. it doesn't mean that they are not dangerous. it doesn that they are not lethal. there are so many different reasons and incubating factors that feed into the mentality of these individuals and help to radicalize them. now, to go back to this person in nice for example, megyn, you know we have to keep in mind that in 2010, "inspire" magazine which is an al qaeda magazine for its branch its affiliates in the arabian peninsula, the same magazine that taught the boston bombers how to cook a bomb at home it's the same magazine that you know advocated and promoted violence against the u.s. and our allies. this magazine actually asked
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jihadis and asked supporters and simympathizers to use their vehicles to kill pedestrians and create damage. >> they laid it all out. so clearly he was at least inspired by that sort of messaging. but the question is is this what isis looks like now? recruiting these disaffected, you know i guess he was a muslim at least in name although perhaps not in practice according to the cousin of the wife. but recruiting these disaffected young men into just killing, just kill in the name of islam, kill in the name of isis kill in whatever name you want but here's how you do it and do it on our behalf. >> and not even recruiting themment inspiring them as we saw in orlando, for example. the only thing a person have to do is just to say, i am isis before they die, and i pledge allegiance to al baghdadi and then isis is going to consider it as an isis operation even though they didn't lift a finger. and yesterday isis twitter
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accounts and social media accounts were urging their supporters to wait because they don't have information about what's happening in france. so that's something that we have to keep in mind too, that isis now is not a physical terrorist group. it's morphed into a narrative, an ideology a brand, and a lot of these people who are disenfranchised, crazy, they just do what isis want them to do and then it's an isis operation. >> ali, thank you. i just want to bring our viewers up to date on what we're seeing here on screen right. you can see the anger in the streets of turkey tonight, where there has been an attempted coup. we have breaking news out of turkey right now. we want to get back now to that. we just got video of military forces facing off with a group of what appears to be supporters of the turkish president, president erdogan. in the last couple of hours, we've seen soldiers in the streets. we've seen huge crowds of turks marching and chanting and reports of explosions and gunfire. wait, let's just listen here.
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you can hear some of the anger. particularly we've seen these incidents happening about around the turkish parliament and government buildings. moments we're going to be joined by james woolsey, but first we go to faty ar toon. he's a reporter for our sister network sky news, and he joins us on the phone from the heart of istanbul. thank you so much faty for being here with us. tell us what you're seeing tonight in the streets. >> reporter: actually maybe you can hear right now turkish military are flying over istanbul right now. actually one of them just passed really close to us and they are circling around the airport right now. actually actually there is a military attempt, but it's not clear who is doing or which part is
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support supporting because -- also head of turkish intelligence and head of media, department of turkish -- said turkish army general was -- but they saved him and now he is on his duty. actually in turkish history, we faced a few military coup but no one happened like that because turkish helicopter turkish jet fighters are hitting the country, hitting the parliament. it didn't happen in turkish history before. i mean it's really -- they are now facing -- it's all 9/11 right now. >> oh wow. wow. that's a stark way of putting it. thank you very much. i want to stand you by because we want to get to james woolsey. just to put this in perspective for folks, he's a former cia director. thank you very much sir, for
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being here tonight. with all due respect to the former cia director let's just take the pictures from turkey live full screen so the viewers can see what's going on. so just assume that people don't know anything about turkey okay? we know where it's located on the map. we know it's a neighbor to syria and iraq which we care about. we know it's a nato ally. why should we care about what's happening with this coup this attempted coup over president erdogan. >> well turkey is very much the linchpin of that part of the world. it has a sophisticated labor force and a solid economy compared to a lot of the other places in the middle east. it went through a huge transition in the aftermath of world war i with ataturk moving toward a secular state. for many years, a number of us in intelligence and arms control negotiations have worked with the turks and have found them extremely clever useful
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wonderful allies. a lot of us would like to have it that way again. it was certainly not headed -- our relationship with turkey was not headed in that direction over the course of the last few years as erdogan has imprisoned journalists and taken a number of other heavy -- very heavy-handed steps. >> so this guy -- just to set the scene, erdogan getted elected and becomes more and more islamist and more and more authoritarian. and what we've seen over the past few years is he's called birth control treason, insisted all mothers have four children. he wants to ban alcohol, public kissing. he's jailed hundreds of journalists, university professors. thousands of people have been charged with the crime of insulting him. that's a crime there, if you insult erdogan personally. so this is our supposed ally. the obama administration is backing him tonight, and yet what we're being told although
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it's unclear -- you tell me -- is that this attempted coup, the military has for years said you're getting too far afield. let's pull it back. let's be more secularized. if you try to go too islamist we'll pull you back. and yet the reports tonight are maybe that's what's happening or maybe -- maybe it's some other group? is that what we're worried about? because you tell me why the obama administration would not be backing a coup like this. >> well this part of the world is the home of many conspiracy theories and i'll pass one on to you that has come to me today from a friend in turkey. he says there are a number of people who believe this, which is that the coup was so clumsy and so ineffective and so badly pulled together that it may have been at least in part a fake and something that was organized by the erdogan government in order to be cracked down on. now, i don't know that that's true. i floated it because it seemed interesting, and there are apparently a number of people in
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turkey who believe that. but whether it was something like that or more likely just a badly organized coup that was not well-coordinated and that failed, we have a situation where it looks like the people who would more or less be regarded as reformers are likely to lose. >> if i can just stand you by director woolsey, th because this is president erdogan right here. he's landed in istanbul. his plane was circling reportedly with no place to land looking for asylum was an initial report. i think we may have the english translation. >> those are unconfirmed reports. the president also has been speaking in the last few moments. we'll be having more through the morning here on sky news. >> all right. we're trying to figure out what he said and what -- 150 injured. okay. that's the latest reporting. back tao, director woolsey.
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you think this may not actually be the military staging a coup as we've seen them do in the past. this may be a group of fakers. this may be erdogan messing with himself in other words, his own government? because what the experts are saying is the worst possible outcome is more instability in turkey. >> i think the chances that that was a fake are well under 50/50 but they may not be zero. it's hard to understand why they went forward with something as clumsy and likely to fail as this. >> and so what are we looking for tonight? are americans more in jeopardy, in other words? if president erdogan stays, then tomorrow are we in the same position we were in yesterday with respect to turkey? >> i think we may be in a somewhat less good situation even than we were yesterday. i think the tensions between his government and us are likely to
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increase. i think it could be a very unpleasant coming months in american-turkish relations. i wish it were different. i love working with the turks. >> wow. instability. more instability in the middle east is not what anybody is looking for. >> no. >> and yet, nor is more extremism. great to see you, james woolsey. thank you, sir. >> good to see you. >> while we keep an eye on this coup unfolding in turkey tonight, we're getting new reaction to president obama's response on the french terror attack we saw last night. charles krauthammer joins us next on that. plus newt gingrich touched off a firestorm yesterday with suggestions we may need to deporlt some american american muslims from this country. see what he's saying tonight when we come back. stay tuned. >> we should frankly test every person from here who is of a muslim background and if they believe in sharia, they should be deported.
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we're going to win this fight by building by never giving up on diplomacy to end the syrian civil war, by working with partners around the world, including muslim communities, to push back against hateful
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ideologies that twist and distort islam. and we will win this fight by staying true to our values values of pluralism and rule of law and diversity and freedoms like the freedom of religion freedom of speech and assembly. >> that was president obama speaking earlier today on the terror attack in nice france, that killed at least 84 people. he said we would win this fight by never giving up on diplomacy and went on to stress that islam is a religion of peace. but many of the president's critics were hoping for something stronger. case in point, 1986, libyan terrorists bombed a west berlin nightclub hoping to kill off-duty american servicemen. the explosion took the lives of three people including two u.s. soldiers and wounded hundreds of others. within days president reagan had launched a military response that was not without controversy and said this to the nation. >> we americans are slow to
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anger. we always seek peaceful avenues before resorting to the use of force, and we did. we tried quiet diplomacy, public condemnation economic sanctions, and demonstrations of military force. none succeeded. despite our repeated warnings gaddafi continued his reckless policy of intimidation his relentless pursuit of terror. he counted on america to be passive. he counted wrong. i warned there should be no place on earth where terrorists can rest and train and practice their deadly skills. i meant it. i said that we would act with others if possible and alone if necessary to ensure that terrorists have no sanctuary anywhere. tonight we have. >> joining me now, charles krauthammer, syndicated columnist and fox news contributor. good to see you. those reagan remarks just make
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you feel something. they make you feel among other things that he got it. he got it. your thoughts. >> obama's rhetoric was completely wrong, repeating everything he's been saying for seven and a half years, which has yielded us the worst outbreak the terrorism we have seen the last 12 months. all over the globe, mass murders on a large scale and quickening in pace. so his turning to diplomacy is almost pathetic because he doesn't seem to be able to articulate any other answer. >> at this point, americans want to know what it's going to take to win. the resolve to defeat this group is growing by the day. >> well. >> he's tried diplomacy. people don't even remember now when they called for a big summit of world leaders to go after this. kerry called a huge summit right after the earlier isis attacks, the earlier isis -- the
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cold-blooded executions on video and on the internet when it was, you know a large number of countries. obama boasted of a 61-member coalition, which is pathetic. where are these people? essentially the u.s. air force, a couple of other allies and of course the iraqi army and militias on the ground and the kurds, of course. but the idea that our diplomacy is solving this has simply been shown to be false. what needs to be done everyone understands, isis has alienated every country in the region alienated people around the world, and it can be taken out. it is not ten feet tall. "the washington post" had a lead story earlier in the week talking about the fact that isis is quietly preparing its own people for the fall of the caliphate, what's happening on the ground right now in mosul is the next target and ultimately it will be raqqah. they are now metastasizing to
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live to strike to execute their plans elsewhere. but they are being squeezed in their homeland, and that to me is the key. that's the way to win this. you have to make them homeless. you have to remove the sanctuary. you have to remove their income. ultimately they then have to go underground. yes, they will continue to strike but they will be nowhere near the threat they are now. it hinges on what happens on the ground in the region and you don't execute that by diplomacy. >> charles, what do you make of what's happening in turkey tonight? >> well the reports are conflicting. the military clearly has seen itself for a hundred years as a defender of secularism and they have a president who has been relentlessly pushing turkey into a dictatorship. he's been suspending judges
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imprisoning journalists, taking over all the institutions and islamistizing the country, one that is famously secular in the muslim world. they've done this before. they've had a coup almost every decade. whenever the elected government would move islamist they would strike. now, if they succeed, i think ultimately it would be to our benefit because the turkish military the secular arm of turkey is a very strong ally of the west very anti-islamist, will join us with a lot more vigor in the fight against isis and terrorism. if erdogan wins i suspect he'll be strengthened. he will accelerate the islamistization, and he has been playing a double game with isis allowing infiltration into isis territory, allowing the fighters to go in and out, and also allowing the refugees to pour
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into europe. so his game is he's not an enemy. he's been warming up slightly allowing us to do air strikes out of turkey. but this could change. he could be embittered. he could be radicalized, and that would be a terrible outcome. >> charles krauthammer, thank you so much. good to see you. >> my pleasure. well isis affiliated groups are promising that the violence we saw in nice france is likely to continue across the globe. and newt gingrich is taking some heat tonight for suggesting that american-muslims who subscribe to sharia law should actually be deported. here's what gingrich told sean hannity last night. >> western civilization is in a war. we should frankly test every person here who is of a muslim background and if they believe in sharia they should be deported. sharia is incompatible with western civilization.
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>> as am akram is an imam in chicago. bridget gabriel is an author and president of act for america. and sheikh akhmed salman is imam of a mosque in san francisco. thank you for being here. akhmed let me start with you on this and nur thoughts on newt's proposal to potentially deport american muslims who follow sharia law. that's for akhmed sorry. >> to begin with kelly, i think newt gingrich does not know anything about sharia. before he understands sharia if we talk about sharia it stands totally on the basis of justice. what we see in the united states as a constitution it is on the basis of justice and the holy quran teaches that we have to obey by the law of the land. so this is what sharia is.
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now, in order for gingrich to know more about this he can come to my mosque in dar ra salam mosque house of peace, where we can talk more about sharia on that matter. >> bridgette i don't know about sharia but islamism is considered problematic by many americans because if you are an islamist you approach islam very different from modern more reformed muslims. >> exactly. you are correct. islamists are very different than the imams that we are having here right now who belong to the acma deeia movement. the acma deeia movement started in the 19th century and they actually believe in angels. those sets of imams and mosques are not the ones we are talking about. they have reformed their religion. what we are talking about is the authentic sharia practice that the majority of the muslims
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around the world practice the 1.6 billion muslims who follow sharia and it's not com patible with our constitution. and this is what vice follows, and that's what causing mayhem around the world right now. >> how is it not compatible bridgette? >> it's not compatible with our constitution. they believe a woman's value is half of that of a man. they believe if a woman is raped, she needs witnesses in order to be saved, to testify against the rape. they believe in supremacy. they believe islam is supreme to all other religions. they do not believe in man made laws such as the constitution. that's just the type of the iceberg, and that's why sharia law is not compatible with the united states constitution. >> as am this is not -- andy mccarthy, a well respected attorney and former federal prosecutor who prosecuted terrorists he's made this point that we need to be distinguishing between islamism
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and islam for the very reasons that bridgette just outlined. is she wrong? is he wrong? >> well the crux of the matter is that it's failed muslim leadership. and as part of the community, we have the consistent leadership of mir za who is the founder of the community over 120 years ago, and now his successor has over 4,000 imams under him promoting the same message. so when you look at the world today, the muslim world is calling for that leadership that guidance. and just like a body without a head you have no sense of direction. and this is why all over the countries and all over the world, in over 206 different nations, we have been promoting the peaceful message of islam, the justice. >> that's your group. bridgette already conceded that. that's a different question about those who believe the things that brittette just outlined. i need to stand you by.
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we've got breaking news in turkey. i'm coming back to you in a minute. we've got late breaking details on this attempted coup. trace. >> reporter: i want to show you megyn. we a few minutes ago showed you that turkish president erdogan was holding a news conference there. we couldn't understand what he was saying because there was no translation. now we're getting a better idea of what he was telling his followers. for some brach ground, you should know that president erdogan was out of town vacationing at the black sea when this attempted coup happened. then about 35 minutes ago, he flew into ataturk airport. that's the main airport in istanbul the same one that was attacked just a couple of weeks ago, and he was greeted by we're told hundreds of his supporters. and then he was escorted to a television station where you saw that news conference. and now we hear that he is saying things like those responsible will pay the appropriate price. he went on to say this was carried out by a minority number of people who cannot stomach the unity of the country. the president went on to say millions are now in the streets
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of turkey protesting the uprising and that the cabinet is functioning as usual, and they are in the process now of arresting police who were involved with this attempted coup. what's fascinating about this is that earlier, those who attempted the coup took over the main television station in istanbul and they sent out a message saying they had control of the country. well now that has flipped. that is back in control of the government. so clearly they no longer have control of the television station, and it has been several hours, maybe three hours since we have heard from the opposition those who attempted the coup. and that is a sign some say, that this may have been a failed coup. very early. still getting conflicting messages coming in megyn. we'll keep you up to speed with what's coming across the wire. >> all right, trace. thank you. i want to bring back bridgette gabriel. she has some exerpertise on
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turkey. you tell me. is this good or not? because our government hillary clinton has put out a statement saying they're against the coup. they stand behind the democratically elected leader. what the other experts are saying is if erdogan survives an attempted coup he's only going to get more extreme in his islamism and that's not good for turkey and that's not good for the united states. your thoughts. >> that's not good for turkey the united states or the middle east. if erdogan wins and comes back to power, it is very very bad. actually it's a win for isis and it's a loss for the civilized world. we need the coup to succeed because that will be our way to actually be able to defeat isis and basically bring some stability to the middle east. erdogan is the one who said islam is islam. there's no moderate islam. there's no radical m is one. and that is islam. he's very radical. he actually has been bringing turkey to -- this is why you see
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the divided turkey. turkey is basically under erd gaun is heading tore a theocracy. it will be another mini iran if he comes to power. we hope and pray that the coup will succeed. >> in turkey if you investigate or question his anti-terror policies you can get investigated by his government. you can come under scrutiny. you can potentially be thrown in jail for questioning him, for insulting him. you know this is somebody who our government right now is saying leave him alone. >> exactly. this is the same government that actually has dragged the world for the last eight years into december instruction, under president obama and secretary of state hillary clinton and under this current administration. libya is in shambles. syria is in shambles. iraq is in shambles. they do not know what they're doing. they are bringing the world into the brink of war, and the fact
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that they came out in support of erdogan is just mind-boggling. the american public needs to wake up and realize that what our administration is doing right now is leading the world into war. we cannot support erdogan and we can just hope that the coup will succeed and erdogan will be out of power. >> on the flip side we've seen many you know,ener dictators or actual dictators deposed in the middle east in the past seven to eight years, and it has not always worked out despite great hopes on our part. bridgette, thank you. back to you in just a bit and back to this breaking news in turkey. first we want to get what's happening in nice france. up next we've got the former assistant fbi director james kallstrom. he called us last night as he watched what was happening in nice and has some strong thoughts on the terror threats facing the globe. he's up next. plus as the craziness in turkey plays out, we have a key
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[crowd cheering] [crowd cheering over phone] breaking tonight, new fallout from media coverage of the terror attack in nice france. hours after the french president and president obama said that all signs pointed to terrorism, "the new york times" omitting that fact from its front-page headline. instead writing, truck attack on french crowd. compare that to the front page of the british daily telegraph. that newspaper listing in bold font the death toll from the death wave of recent terror attacks starting with nice including orlando, san bernardino california as well in the u.s. james kallstrom is former fbi assistant director in charge. jim, wow, the daily telegraph, i mean that says it all. just put that back on the screen. your thoughts. >> you know megyn, the mainstream media is a fifth
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column in this country. they might as well just all join the democratic party. they're a mouth piece for them. they would-- i mean it's just unbelievable. >> you've been talking for some -- yeah go ahead. >> no. i've been thinking about this thing in france megyn. i mean you and i have been talking about this for, what a long time a couple of years maybe. you know we have one of these outrageous events and then we talk about what needs to be done and really nothing ever happens, you know. and we need to you know bring this thing up to a much higher level. you know i think we need -- the congress needs to declare war on radical islam. they need to do that right away. it needs to happen. we need to discredit the ideology. folks have been talking about
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that today. we do that two ways. we kill them and we get the other muslims that aren't radical to stand up and talk about, you know what this ideology is doing to their religion. i don't see that happening in the united states until we have a new administration because they're not going to want to go to the -- you know the weakness that's in there. you know the fbi is operating -- we've talked about this under this heavy, heavy burden of political correctness, this heavy blanket. they've got one and a half or maybe one and three quarters arms tied behind their back. why do you think we had that situation in boston with the russians. why do you think we had all these cases that seemed to drop through the cracks? the reason is this p.c. -- >> and orlando. >> absolutely. the rules of engagement are ludicrous. you know the fbi can't do things that normal citizens can do. it's outrageous you know. and you don't hear about that.
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jim comey needs to stand up and talk about that. and, you know it's just unbelievable. and of course they don't have the manpower to do the job either. you know i think comey really needs to get up to congress. you know he needs to put his big-boy pants on go up there, talk to the intelligence committees talk about the oversight committees and tell them the truth about what the fbi really needs to protect this society. i think the attorney general should -- >> i know you said in the past about the fbi, that you feel that they've been put in a straitjacket that they're wearing a heavy straitjacket right now and comey and our leaders need to take it off. >> yeah i don't know if any of them will admit it, but i'll tell you right now that's how the agents feel. you know he could get some of his credibility back if he actually spoke the truth about that. the attorney general, i think, should resign. you know in march, megyn, she directed the fbi to consider
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bringing certain climate change deniers up on rico charges. i mean can you believe that that she would ask the fbi to look into charging -- >> they say they consider climate change one of the gravest threat facing the nation and they won't name radical islam. this is an argument we've heard time and time again. you know what the response to that that they don't think naming it does any good. you look at this guisey in nice -- and by the way we are watching this situation in turkey. but the guy in nice he was eating pork and drinking beer and getting a divorce and didn't go to mosque and people are saying well that's -- i don't know what that is. it doesn't sound like any form of islam, so why should we be saying radical islam? why shouldn't we just be saying radical killer? >> for the attorney general of the united states the chief law enforcement officer to talk about bringing people up on rico
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charges for expressing their first amendment rights she did the same thing about people that talked badly about muslims. it's unbelievable. you know i don't know. i don't know where that all ends. and of course the meeting with clinton on the tarmac i mean those three things i think, she should do the country a favor and think about resigning. and, of course sharia law is -- are we done? >> yes. i'm sorry. i've got to go but i'll give you your final thought. why don't you take the last word and then we'll wrap it. >> sharia law is not consistent. anybody that comes in here from nations that practice sharia law should go through some sort of a sharia test, and if they're sharia-type people and they want to practice that, they should be turned around to head back where they came from. >> jim, thank you for being here. >> thank you. from the republican national convention site in cleveland, ohio, it all goes down next
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week. you may have heard there was some big news today that on any other night would have been the lead of every broadcast in america. presumptive republican nominee donald trump announced a running mate today. governor mike pence of indiana. and that pick is already raising some questions. joining me live from cleveland, chris stirewalt. great to see you. what do you think of the pick? >> reporter: well we talked before about the liabilities of the pick, but it is is what it is. the question at this point becomes the theater, the staging of how the pick goes and can they as a ticket get along? can they work together? and while pence certainly buoys up trump on some issues with the republican base there is some question about how the two of them are going to work as a team. >> what was up with the weird i'm announcing him on friday morning -- wait i'm not announcing him on friday morning because we had a terror attack in nice. oh but wait i'm going to make other announcements, and then i'm going to announce it via
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twitter and like -- there he is and there's our logo. >> reporter: well the logo was not exactly a smash hit, but the trump campaign vehemently denied any wish on the part of the presidential nominee to ditch pence at the last minute. but one could understand why he would have wanted to given the fact that the leaks came out of indianapolis and blew the story that trump was getting ready for the big reveal and the feeling that pence was trying to jam trump and prevent him from switching at the last minute. but reports were trump was late into the night trying to find a way to ditch pence. then tomorrow they take it to chris christie home state, i guess to rub his nose in it, but take it to his home state to say pence is the guy. announce it in new jersey. >> it's like an arranged marriage that is getting off to a rocky start. stand by because our friends at "the five" are already making their way to you at the republican national convention. oh my lord would you look at
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this. would you look at this. they boarded a bus to cleveland. now they're in hershey, pennsylvania, which is so unfair. why can't i be there with you? never mind i don't want that. and they're giving us a live look at night one of their two-week road trip. all right. gutfeld, i'll start with you. how is it going so far? >> well there's a couple of problems with whenever you do a road trip. one is the smell. i stink, which is why i have febreze to go. and then whenever i'm hungry i just have easy cheese. you just squirt the cheddar into your mouth. it's beautiful. >> all right. dana what do you think? >> i think i would have sat next to kimberly. >> everybody wants to sit next to kimberly. we've been rotating every 15 minutes, somebody gets to switch out. i'm in charge of educational games for the road trip. so far, so good.
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we've learned a lot. we've learned a lot. >> exactly. >> another round of scrabble. may i recommend to you family feud 2 you can download it right now on your app, and it's a great family game. eric bolling, in between your bus trip and your cleveland responsibilities -- everybody else needs to be quiet. eric has written a book called "wake up america." wake up. how does this relate to your bus tour? how does this relate to your bus tour eric? >> that's what bus tours are for. a book tour. >> look at this. >> we have shot glasses, too. >> they're for water. >> red bull. >> this is a normal glass for me. >> that's actually a full size. >> you know megyn, what we've been doing on this bus, we've been watching you. >> what? >> we've been watching you
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because there's a giant tv on this fabulous bus. >> it's like having our own little cozy kind of what like a little den or something. we're all living together. >> plus we love to watch charles krauthammer. we watched him on your show. >> kimberly, are you like -- what are the sleeping arrangements? this is what i want to know kimberly. what's the deal with the bathroom? is there a bathroom on the bus? >> yes, there's one bathroom only for one. so that's going well so far actually and because we're going to arrive at least at our first stop in about 15 minutes, we should be safe. so it's gone very well. we're excited about that. we've got "fox & friends" tomorrow. we're also going to go to hershey park. we're going to go to the zoo. >> we'll be watching. a want a full update on hershey, pennsylvania. road trip by "the five." we'll be right back.
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and we "the kelly file," will be live in cleveland next
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week for the republican national convention as well. we'll be joined by some special guests as donald trump is expected to be officially named the 2016 gop nominee. we'll be taking a plane. two bathrooms, better. thanks for watching. police welcome the governor of the great state of indiana, mike pence. >> we love indiana. we love our country. my family and i couldn't be more honored. to have the opportunity to run with and serve with the next president of the united states. >> donald trump is going to provide the kind of leadership that america needs. >> we're ready to put a fighter, a builder, and a patriot in the oval office of the united states of america. we're ready for donald trump. >> to strengthen our nation at home and abroad and give americans the confidence that we'll be appointing people to the supreme court that will stand by our constitution.


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