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washington. journal editorial report is next. >> have a great one. see you guys. stay inside with the air conditioning, it's better in there. i found the leader who will help us deliver a safe society and a prosperous, really prosperous society for all americans. indiana governor mike pence was my first choice. >> welcome to the special edition of the journal editorial report as we count down to next week's republican convention in cleveland. i'm paul gigot and that was donald trump earlier today appearing for the first time with his vice presidential running mate, indiana governor mike pence. trump announced the decision on twitter friday ending weeks of speculation and eliciting an
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immediate response from hillary clinton's campaign which called pence the most extreme vp pick in a generation. joining me from cleveland, ohio, is wall street journal columnist and deputy editor dan heninger and james toronto and marry an tasia o'grady. you saw the performance with donald trump. hard to imagine a bigger difference in political styles. >> there's a phrase called return to normalcy and i think we just saw a return to normalcy in the trump campaign and they really did need that. there's a swath of republican voters who are disturbed about trump and would like to see something steady out there. they're going to get that in mike pence. i thought his presentation was terrific. i'm just going to add one more thing. some people might think mike pence is a little boring. he started out as a radio talk
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show host. he knows how to perform, he knows how to speak, he's very articulate. i think trump really hit one here with mike pence. >> kim, so you and i both have known mike pence for many years. he's a likeable guy. he has a certain midwest warmth, if i can speak to my home region there. he also has -- he's a persuader and that i like. what else do you think he brings to the ticket? >> well, you know, if you are running for president, you want a candidate that helps you, does not hurt you, so there isn't much that hurts donald trump about him and that's a good thing for starters. look, this is a governor with a good economic track record and that is going to help donald trump out there making that economic argument, which is one of his potential strengths. as you said, this is an evangelical, who talks very openly about that but in a warm way, in a positive way. that's going to help donald trump with a constituency that hey needs. this is also a former house member who knows his way through congress, has the respect of the
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so-called establishment politicians out there. >> oh, no, really? the establishment? oh, no! >> but he's going to be -- potentially be able to help donald trump and guide him in terms of questions of how congress works and how you work with congress and those members. >> and that governing message, mary, is important for donald trump in particular as an outsider, as he said. >> i agree with kim that he does bring a lot of things to the table that are calming for normal people, but i also think that there's a possibility of a lot of undercurrents of conflict here -- >> between the two candidates? >> yes, because mike pence has been very -- very much of a free trader. >> voted for every single free trade agreement that was presented to him while he was in congress, and there were a lot of him. >> and he's already in the first 24 hours started to say that he would be okay with renegotiating trade agreements. i think that's problematic because i don't believe mike pence actually believes that's good for the united states.
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>> so he's accommodating donald trump. look, mary, if you accept the ticket, you've got to accommodate the fellow on the top of the ticket. i would assume they had these conversations. i'm a free trader like you but this is what you need to do if you're going to be vp. >> that's true, but on the other hand there's -- it's not possible to go through the next four months and not land on one side or the other. either mike pence has to say that he renounces his retrade views and sides with donald trump or he has to somehow try to convince people that free trade is good and that this is just going to be to be a moderate -- >> i'll wager that he says -- i thought they were good ideas at the time but they haven't worked out quite as well as we had hoped they would and we can renegotiate some of the other ones. james, what are some of the other downsides for mike pence. >> i suppose the biggest downside is as governor of indiana, he had this controversy last year about the religious freedom restoration act, a bill that of course bill clinton
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signed the equivalent bill on a federal level in 1993, but suddenly the left is against religious freedom because they want to force everyone to go along with same-sex marriage. pence was completely unprepared for the backlash against that and did not handle that situation well so he's going to get beat up by the democrats a little bit. trump had better hope that that prepared him for it. >> kim, what about the way this was handled with all the leaks for a couple of days and then the leaks and sources telling reporters that, oh, well, donald trump was going to change his mind and waiting until the very last minute on friday to be able to do this. any lasting damage from that? >> i don't think lasting damage. look, this is a trump campaign and you kind of expect stuff like this to happen. there are leaks. it's clearly not a very tight operation in that way. and also i think a little credit where it's due, i mean this was always going to be top when the terror attack happened in nice, it would have been inappropriate for donald trump to plow ahead and have a celeb ra torre
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unveiling of his pick. it's out now and i think it will be fine. >> the other thing, dan, we're hearing about is some of the most aurd ent trump supporters who care about immigration are a little upset that mike pence isn't as hard core and hasn't been in the past as donald trump and they view this as a sellout if you read their twitter accounts. do you think that matters at all? >> no, i don't think in this election it's going to have much impact. i think it's a secondary issue. i would say the same thing about trade. mike pence was on fox friday night and he said that he's a free trader but you've got a negotiator running at the top of the ticket. we're going to negotiate bilateral free trade treaties. at that level of detail i don't think it matters too much. he did say today in that acceptance, twice he talked about the importance of the supreme court. i think what mike pence is going to do is be coheerns and clarity to the trump agenda. he'll always be on subject and
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on point in a way donald trump is not. up next, heading into next week's gop convention, some new poe polls suggest the race for the white house is tightening both nationally and in some key swing states. karl rove will take us through the numbers when we come back. ...clear for take off. see ya! when you're living with diabetes. steady is exciting. oh this is living baby! only glucerna has carbsteady, to help minimize blood sugar spikes. and try new glucerna hunger smart to help you feel full. ♪ booking.com offers free cancellations, so you're free to decide if the trip you're on... hahahahahaha! ...isn't really the trip you want to be on. hahahaha... hahaha... [mountain woman and key laughing together]
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trust number one doctor recommended dulcolax constipated? use dulcolax tablets for gentle overnight relief suppositories for relief in minutes and stool softeners for comfortable relief of hard stools. dulcolax, designed for dependable relief the race for the white house appears to be tightening ahead of the conventions with some new polls showing donald trump closing the gap with hillary clinton. nationally trump has pulled even with clinton in the new cbs/new york times poll after trailing her by six points a month ago. and the latest real clear politics poll average shows a close race in the critical swing states of ohio, pennsylvania and florida. wall street journal columnist and fox news contributor karl rove joins us with more. karl, good to see you, thanks for being here. donald trump said today this was
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a unity pick. that's what he was looking for. do you think that was his motivation, and is it going to unify the party? >> well, i think it will help consolidate the party. pence gives some reassurance to economic and social conservatives. and i think it was a solid and durable choice. pence is a good man. i got to know him when i was at the white house under president bush. didn't agree with us all the time but he was a straight shooter, thoughtful demeanor, an excellent communicator, and i thought it was interesting he was almost a universal choice to enter the leadership in 2006. it was in part because in a very short period of time, three terms, he had gained the confidence and trust of so many of his colleagues and their admiration and friendship. so he's a solid guy. and i think it is a good move by trump. >> and this was when he was in the house. he gave you guys some heartburn sometimes. i know he voted against the medicare part d expansion. >> yeah. >> and that was a close vote, so
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that must have been some heartburn for you. >> well, but you know what, he was straight up right at the beginning. he made a principled statement of opposition to it. i disagreed with it. i wouldn't call it an expansion, what i'd call it is a medicare reform because this set up -- this is the first instance in which we've used in essence a voucher program, if you will, premium support in a social program of the government. >> i know. you and i argued about that at the time. >> exactly. >> we don't need to relitigate this. we're talking about mike pence. but i want to ask you about particularly when you're looking at a vp choice who disagrees on some big issues with the gentleman at the top of the ticket, the presidential candidate, and pence does on trade and he has in the past on immigration, even on foreign policy with donald trump. pence is a very robust american presence in the world supporter. what do you -- what advice to you give the campaign to have those differences not bother you
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for the next four months? >> well, my sense is, look, pence is a practical politician, so he's not going to go out of his way to emphasize his differences. and frankly, the fact that he's on the ticket and that he has the views that you expressed give me a little bit of confidence that trump is open to new ideas and to framing and strengthening his opinion. you know, i took this as a sign that, look, trump is not a consistent ideologue. this is not a guy who caught up and read and studied -- >> exactly. >> so the fact that he would pick somebody that he thinks he has good personal chemistry with whom he believes will help unite the party means if he gets elected, probably having lunch with him once a week privately as most presidents have done with their vice presidents, somebody who is a principled conservative and i think that's reassuring to the republican base. trump's problem, if you look at the polls, one of the problems
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he's got, at fox he was 74% of republicans and nbc/washington post he was at 77% of republicans. he needs to be above 90%. now, the vice president doesn't make a big impact upon the nationwide vote, but the vice president can help in the consolidation of -- directly help in the consolidation of the party faithful behind the ticket. >> where do you think the race stands right now? is it really tied as "the new york times" poll said? >> i'd say this. i'd say if you take all these polls and average them together, either in the real clear politics average or the huffington post average you'll see a similar pattern. that is in late june, hillary clinton peaked and began to move down. the movement that we've had in these polls, both the national polls and in the state polls is primarily clinton moving up, not trump moving up. take a look at those four polls. >> that's the way i see it too. >> these are four states that came out this week. florida quinnipiac, if you look
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at it in each one of these polls, down eight for clinton, down five since the last time marist was in the field about five weeks ago. in ohio in quinnipiac, clinton was down one but in marist she was down nine. same in the others. and in the -- nationally you have the same sort of pattern. the second thing i'd point out, paul, is that the large number of undecideds. take a look at cbs/"the new york times." 40-40, 20% undecided. i looked at all of the polls run in july of 2012 and the average undecided was 8.5%. earlier this week it was 16% and with the latest round of polls, it's close to 17% undecideds. we haven't seen that since 1992. >> so this race is winnable by donald trump, but he's got to improve his positives. he's got to make people feel
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more comfortable with him in the oval office. does that mean he has to devote this convention, and we only have a little time here, karl, does he have to devote this convention to improving his image? >> absolutely. but he's got two things to do. he's got to find the right mix in advocating an optimistic and positive agenda that causes people to say i'm hard part of he sees for the future of america. he missed a big opportunity week before last in his first appearance after comey lacerated hillary clinton, he gave a speech devoted to defending himself on the star of david and the tweet and not a good use of his time. >> thanks for being here. >> thank you. when we come back, party leaders deal a blow to the never trump movement ahead of next week's republican convention. was it a fatal one or should we still expect some fireworks in cleveland? >> never trump, they said. never trump, never trump. oh, we're going to win. they got crushed. and they got crushed immediately.
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the never trump movement suffered a major blow late this week when the rules committee voted down a proposal to add a so-called conscience clause that would have freed delegates to vote for their preferred delegate on the first ballot and instead pushed through a rule binding them to their state's primary and caucus results. kim strassel is in cleveland following everything. kim, you were following this and it made for a late night thursday. why did they crush this, to borrow donald trump's word? >> well, they were crushed, although it's worth noting that
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it was done in a fairly low class fashion. the party leaders managed to insert these things, as you said, and crush that movement k committee out of session all day, bringing it back late at night, misdirecting many delegatesbout when the votes were going to happen, not allowing a number of them to speak, and so they got their way. the reason why, look, riens priebus and donald trump's campaign wanted a no drama convention and they wanted to take this off the table and they did manage to do it. i think the interesting question is whether or not the manner in which they did, if it doesn't cause them some real blowback over this next week just because there are hundreds of delegates here who are not yet convinced by donald trump. what you'd like to have seen them do is invite them in, ask them for their votes instead of kind of crowing over their defeat. >> gracious win or not in the trump vocabulary. well, what do you think? i'm going to mary here, just a second. what do you think? should they have been more
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gracious? >> of course they should have. as you mentioned, donald trump is now talking about party unity and you don't get it with those kinds of dirty tricks that kim is talking about. so going forward, they're going to have to come out with something i think that's more positive and unifying in the sense of bringing these people, people who, by the way, mike pence represents, people who believe in trade, who have a positive view of america's role in the world, who are opposed to the kind of isolationist talk that he's been drum beating with through most of the primary, they have to shift this if he really truly wants party unity. >> you were critical all along, james, of the never trumpers. what do you think of this here? >> well, i think it's true that the trump could have been more magnanimous if he had it in him to be more magnanimous so i agree with that point. i think from the standpoint of the republican party it's probably better that they handled it this way.
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>> you want no drama next week? >> as a journalist, i was looking forward to the open convention, but the republican party doesn't run its operations according to what's in our interests. from the standpoint of the republican party, this probably was not going to go anywhere anyway, i suspect, because donald trump needed about 350 delegates who maybe weren't personally loyal to him. i suspect a lot of the delegates would take the view that it's better to follow the views of the voters who did, after all, select trump, according to the rules then in place. so i think this would have died on the floor where it needs majority support and it probably makes sense from the republican standpoint to have it happen behind closed doors more or less. >> dan, if you look at what the clinton campaign, the case they're making against donald trump, it basically comes down to you are temperamentally and every other way unfit to be president. so does this -- is this the main job of trump going into the convention, that he needs to show the american public -- and his negatives are very high --
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that he is in fact not what the democrats say? particularly ahead of the democratic convention where they are going to dump on him an attack machine, attacks on his business and his person you haven't seen ever in politics perhaps. >> yeah, that's right. both hillary and trump are trying to pull votes from the other side. i think the big problem here, paul, is not so much the never trump vote or never hillary vote, it's the never vote at all. the deal is that you've got all of these republican factions, such as kasich, cruz and jeb bush, all of his supporters, john kasich says he will not even appear inside the quicken loans arena. ted cruz will give a talk, but it was cruz people who were on the rules committee trying to get a conscience vote and jeb bush is very alienated. donald trump needs all of those voters to turn out and vote for him and work for him in this election. i think it was beyond nonmagnanimous for him to say he crushed them as he did this afternoon. i don't think that helps him at all. he's got to bring those people
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inside the tent. and this convention is the time to do it. >> i think we're going to see in ted cruz the first speech, campaign speech of 2020 when he gives it this coming week. what else are you looking for, mary? >> the irony of all ironies is the establishment politicians may be the ones who make donald trump make this convention successful, people like paul ryan, scott walker, peter thiel, the venture capitalist from california is going to speak at the convention. >> former attorney general. >> yes. they can help trump sort of make this look like a more normal group of people. >> all right, mary, thank you. much more to come on this special edition of the journal editorial report as we follow late-breaking news from around the globe. isis claims credit for thursday's terror attack in nice and chaos reigns in turkey following last night's failed coup attempt. the very latest when we come back. my son and i used to watch the red carpet shows on tv
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isis is claiming credit for thursday's terror attack in nice, france, that left 84 dead and injured over 200 others at a bastille day fireworks celebration. french prosecutors say five people are now in custody, including the ex-wife of the attacker. describe as a 31-year-old tunisian-born loner. this as turkish president erdogan vows revenge following
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last night's bloody coup attempt. it left close to 200 dead and a thousand injured and plunged a key nato ally into chaos. we're back with dan and mary, also bret stephens joins us. the looks like the coup failed, but erdogan, the president, had been heading in an authoritarin direction. >> i think you'll see a massive purge. erdogan has been conducting purges since he's become president. >> would this have been a trigger for that, you think? >> he's been in power now for about 14 years. he's been purging the seculars in the military, he's been purging his enemies, a milder islamist faction. this is going to be an occasion to further purge the military of his enemies. we'll find out exactly who was
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bind this. you'll see more authoritarianism and more discontent bubbling out of turkey. >> what does it mean for our alliance with turkey? >> it will be much more difficult. just with the bombing in the istanbul airport, turkey is under attack. now you'll see the ankara government trying to consolidate its power. it's going to occupy a lot of energy that might otherwise go with dealing with regional crises. >> i assume if the military is preoccupied with purges and fighting one another internally and the officer corps is being dut in half or a third, that won't have the focus of resources to apply to the islamic state. >> this is going to leave turkey much weaker in every respect, much less capable as serving as a islamic bull work against what's happening in syria and what's happening in iraq. >> dan, do you think this is the consequence of -- at all of president obama's attempt to sort of take the u.s. back from
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the middle east? he tried to have a good relationship with erdogan early on, but it soured in recent years. >> yeah, i think his attempt to minimize the u.s. presence in the middle east has led to incidents like this. i mean it's not as though the united states had to solve all the problems of the middle east, but it had to be more deeply engaged, say, in the war against islamic state. erdogan was kind of ambivalent about fighting islamic state and i think if we had been leaning forward more than this, it might not have destabilized the situation to the point where you get a coup like this, which is probably going to make his relationship with nato dysfunctional for at least a year. >> if he becomes more authoritarian, that's going to be harder for nato allies and the united states to support turkey. let's turn to nice and the terror attack there, another one in france. what does this tell us about, the islamic state has now claimed credit for the truck driver. other arrests. what does this tell you about the state of the threat in
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europe? >> well, i think the biggest takeaway here is that france was employing all the resources it's had to try to avoid another one of these after the paris attack. you can see that playing defense is not sufficient to deal with this problem. the west is going to have to go on offense. and the strategy of just trying to use domestic intelligence and domestic barriers, walls, stopping migrants and so forth is not enough. >> this fellow was not on the terror list, even though -- which is disconcerting because it means that he's flown completely under the pretty wide french intelligence staff. >> well, i think what we already know is that the gains that isis makes and great victories, whether they're in iraq or terrorist victories are inspiring for even people who are just malcontents. so whether he was directly connected with isis, they are now taking credit for this, is not clear. but, you know, there are lots of
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loners and losers who might be inspired by something like that. again, we have to show that isis can be defeated and that we are going to defeat them in order to reduce this amount of attacks. >> all of europe is suffering th hangover from its obama enthusiasm. you think about eight years, obama, the most popular politician. what they didn't know is that obama's strategic retreat from the world would end up affecting them because the united states is not providing the security it once did in the levant, in north africa. we don't have a sixth fleet -- >> and we also have done nothing in syria which is the radiating chernobyl and that's what spread the refugees into europe. but there's a question, brett, as isis loses territory in syria and iraq, some people are saying their operatives will strike more often around the world just to show that they're still in
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the game. do you think we're going to see more in the next four or five months? >> look, just think about events since orlando, barely a month ago. the bombings in istanbul, in dhaka, in nice, don't be surprised if in the next week we have another massive terror attack. what i fear most is this the process of defining dooef aens down. we're going to become accustomed to the scale of these atrocities. the prime minister of france said i think france is just going to have to get used to these kinds of attacks. not getting used to it is the job of western states. >> will populations accept that? >> i don't think they will. >> i don't think so either. still ahead, he may be closing in on hillary clinton in the polls, but for donald trump, the road to 270 is still a long one. my next guest has some ideas on how he can get there. to folks out there whose diabetic nerve pain...
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270, that's the number of electoral college votes needed to become president. although donald trump appears to be closing the polling gap with
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hillary clinton heading into this week's republican convention, his path to 270 is still a long one. but my next guest has some ideas about how trump can get there. john brabender is a republican strategist and advisor to rick santorum. john, thanks for coming in on a saturday. appreciate it. >> happy to be here. >> all right. so the conventional wisdom about a presidential race, particularly for a republican this year, you pick the swing states you think you can win, focus all of our resources and time on those states and that's how you win it to eke out 274 or 280 or 290. you say that's wrong with donald trump, why? >> i laugh every day because we're all still talking about conventional wisdom. you would think we'd wake up and understand this is not the quintessential race. things have changed because donald trump is not the quintessential republican nominee. in a strange way that actually gives republicans more hope than maybe they would have had.
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look, we lost the last two elections for president. >> right. >> i thought romney actually ran a good campaign. you know, and we lost. and so what trump does is he actually resets the entire board. instead of us all of a sudden looking and challenging in states like virginia, colorado, new hampshire, iowa, which have been tough states for us, he brings other states into play that are bigger states with more votes for us. ohio, pennsylvania, wisconsin. and i think that it's because these are people who feel disenfranchised from the political process. they feel both parties have let them down and they like what they're hearing from trump. >> john, who are those voters? are we talking about -- we hear a lot about the white working class and hear about whites without college degrees. if you look at the counties of pennsylvania, that's roaded with republicans with college degrees and donald trump is not performing as well with those republican voters. can he get enough of those
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unconventional republican voters or people who stayed home last time to offset those losses in the collar counties of philadelphia? >> that's the whole paradox of the donald trump campaign is that they have to struggle to get what should be some of their natural votes. you know, moderate republican women voters, where they're now struggling with. while on the other hand they're offsetting with some democrat blue collar votes. in a state like pennsylvania, he still has to do well with the collar counties in philadelphia. now, i will say this, one good symptom that we saw in the republican primary is donald trump won every single county in pennsylvania, which means he not only got the conservative middle vote of the state, a lot of the more moderate votes in those collar counties, bucks county, montgomery, delaware and so forth. donald trump won those as well. he still has to do better, and like romney, he has to win among married women for him to win nationwide. >> you said he needs to run an
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unconventional race. you said here are the votes in the states he needs to target. what else does he need to do? right now if you look at the money, hillary clinton has the advantage there. you look at the organization advantage she has. trump will not catch up with her on that. what does he need to do to offset that? >> first of all, i would argue that, again, that's the context of how campaigns used to run. now there's so much free air time that people get to know the candidate so intimately that advertising doesn't matter as much in a presidential race as it probably does in a senate or congressional race, number one. number two is because of digital, the internet, social, all those type of things, what the party used to do, you can now do online so you don't need as much money for those type of things. >> don't you need turnout operations, john? you've got to get your sister and your brother and your brother-in-law to the polls. >> you do. what i believe is, first of all, donald trump doesn't have a lot of that in place and it's too late to do it. what he does have is a large
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megaphone every time he goes on television. he needs to motivate people to make this a more emotional campaign, something where they want to get up and they're going to show up and vote. and i do think we have a very motivated electorate out there. that's how donald trump beat 16 credible candidates for president is that it's a different type of election. >> you mentioned pennsylvania as a key state to watch. obviously ohio is always a key state to watch. republicans have to win it. what other states do you think trump needs to win to prevail? >> i think ultimately it's going to come down to florida. i think getting a combination of all those other states and putting them together is much more challenging. we're already seeing things that are happening. i think, number one, the irony maybe of all is rubio getting into the senate race is going to help trump a lot. i think it's going to motivate some republican voters to show up and add enthusiasm. number two, we saw right after the comey come out, hillary's unfavorables started to go up in a number of states, specifically in florida. so it shows the volatility of
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them. if they're unsure about hillary clinton now in july, that's not good for her. she was supposed to be the stable safe vote. and so i don't think florida is out of the equation. and if somehow trump can win ohio, win pennsylvania, win florida, win the romney states from last time, he's now your president of the united states. >> all right, john brabender, thanks for sharing that. when we come back, justice ruth bader ginsburg courting controversy with her words about donald trump. she now says she regrets those remarks but has the damage already been done. take a look at these bbq trophies: best cracked pepper sauce... most ribs eaten while calf roping... >>yep, greatness deserves recognition. you got any trophies, cowboy? ♪ whoomp there it is uh, yeah... well, uh, well there's this one. >>best insurance mobile app? yeah, two years in a row. >>well i'll be... does that thing just follow you around?
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to have done that was an absolute disgrace to the supreme court. and she owes the country, our
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country an apology and she owes the supreme court of the united states an apology. >> donald trump this week responding to recent comments made by supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg. in an interview with cnn, the 83-year-old justice called trump a faker, and told "the new york times," quote, i can't imagine what the country would be with donald trump as president. after a bipartisan outcry, ginsburg released this statement on thursday. on reflection, my recent remarks in response to press inquiries were ill-advised and i regret making them. judges should avoid commenting on a candidate for public office. in the future, i will be more circumspect. we're back with dan heninger, kim strassel, james toronto and bret stephens. i don't think anybody is surprised that ruth ginsburg is not going to vote for donald trump, but why was this so over the line for a justice to weigh in on a presidential campaign? >> well, in any election
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campaign, it's just inappropriate for a justice to get so involved in politics. judges by and large have been circumspect. antonin scalia was a very outspoken justice of the supreme court and by and large circumspect. anthony scalia was a very outspoken justice but never went over the line and talked about particular candidates. having said, that paul, i'm not sure this is much of an issue in the election. >> should me? >> i think because what ruth bader ginsburg represents, finger on the scale, they want outcomes instead of nonjudgmental judging. >> is this going to be over, james? >> the supreme court is also going to be an issue. >> depends if a case comes
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before the court before re-election. remember when they decided bush versus gore in 2000. >> a little bit. >> there were four accidents. they ended with respectfully dissent. justice ginsburg said i dissent, leaving out respectfully. she should have known better than saying these things about trump. >> she weighed in on citizens free speech and heller case, second amendment washington gun case. >> landmark gun case. >> which calls into question whether she can ever rule again on first and second. >> when you say weighed in, she basically invited cases to come before justices saying i'm going to be in the majority soon with liberals. please, send those cases to me because i'd like to see this overturned. so she's prejudged these cases. >> that's exactly it.
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i think that's fatal for her. she will have to recuse her self if playing by rules and traditions of supreme court. >> do you think she will? >> it's worse than a crime, it's a mistake. >> do you think she will. >> well -- >> recuse her self from the cases. >> probably not but it will be controversial. i would point out she also revealed how justice scalia voted before he died on one of the cases that was a 4-4 tied and imputed a vote to justice elena kagan in a case she recused her self so violated confidence of her colleagues. >> do you think justice kagan is pleased to know if she's 56 years old she's going to be in the court a long time, pleased to see ruth bader ginsburg saying our liberal majorities are precooked. >> i don't think commented on this but justice briar asked about it, asked if i had ab opinion i wouldn't express it, which i thought was brilliant. >> what do you think? do you agree with dan about the
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politics? her comments are going to resonate enough to make the supreme court a central issue in the campaign? >> already was, clarifies the stakes here, the right in fix is held by supreme court. they hold president to account, candidates to account, drives them to polls. in a way her coming out and doing this, it was very clarifies to people, this is how the liberal block of the court actually does do its decisions. it is based object politics. so she put that out there for everyone to see and gave everyone a taste, too, of just what sort of cases would be brought back up and what rights are at risk if the republicans lose this race. >> so dan, donald trump should thank justice ginsburg maybe for mobilizing his base? >> yeah, he should indeed, though he normally doesn't do that sort of thing. justice ginsburg up there in the
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lose loser. they will have an appointment or three and will be like justice socie. it will be up to mr. trump and mike pence to make that clear to voters. as kim is suggesting, a lot of republicans out there are very focused on this sort of thing. it's a turnout issue. >> that plus for trump? >> yes, a lot of republicans who don't like trump are open to the argument what about the supreme court? >> thank you. we have to take one more break. when we come back, hits and misses of the week. with diabetes. steady is exciting. oh this is living baby! only glucerna has carbsteady, to help minimize blood sugar spikes. and try new glucerna hunger smart to help you feel full.
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of the week. kim, start us off. >> a huge miss for senate
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democrats who this week decided to hold hostage pregnant women at risk of the zika virus entirely so they could play politics. the obama administration democrats have been demanding emergency funding for zika for months. republicans accommodated. senate democrats voted first round. when it came time for final legislation they invented all kinds of phony excuses for not voting for it just so they could try to blame it on republicans. this is an issue trump ought to take over. >> james. >> teresa may, first week in office abolished department of energy and climate change, britain ournlgd. ronald reagan promised to b abolish department of energy but he wasn't never in that. >> she has steel in her. >> made news this week when
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police found this man sleeping in a tent at the school, pedalled a 20 inch bicycle to get there. he need add job. when found him he inspired not only police who helped him find a hotel room, many more onfacebook called. this the kind of initiative that made america great. >> dan. >> my news to newt gingrich made a lot of news on law, let me be as direct as i can be. western civilization is in a war. we should frankly test every person here of a muslim background. if they believe in sharia she should be deported. donald trump is his own man. he does not need newt gingrich out there trying to be more trumpier than trump. comments like that will hurt the trump campaign more than help him.
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>> do you think it hurt him in the veepstakes? >> i think it hurt him a lot. he didn't get it. >> if you have your own hit or miss, tweet it to us. that's it for the show. thanks for watching. hope to see you right here next week. dm donald trump introducing mike pence as running mate. appearing for the first time since yesterday calls pence his first poise for vice president. welcome to election headquarters i'm trace gallagher. >> hi, trace. today's introduction coming just two days before the start of the republican convention. governor pence offering high praise for mr. trump, endorsing the top of the ticket along with the need to make america great again. >> i thank donald trump for the co

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