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at the ripe old age of 27. and that's it for today. have a great week. we'll see you next "fox news sunday." welcome to "the journal editorial report." i'm paul gigot. a new batch of e-mails released this week raises questions about whether donors got preferential treatment during her tenure as the secretary of state. 85 of the 154 people from private interests who met with clinton in her first two years as secretary donated to the foundation contributing $156 million to the charity. hillary clinton called the a.p. report, quote, a lot of smoke and no fire, claiming they
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excluded nearly 2,000 meetings she had with world leaders and former president bill clinton chopped the latest controversy up to election year politics. >> we're trying to do good things. there's nothing wrong with creating jobs and saving lives. and now they are talking about people meeting with hillary and bill, would have gotten meetings with any foreign secretary or any country in the world. so i think it's election season. >> joining the panel this week, "wall street journal" columnist kim straussel, james friedman, dorothy and main street columnist bill mcgern. kim, what was the most important thing we learned this week, in your view, about the clinton foundation and the state department and the relationship
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when she was secretary? >> i think the most important thing we learned is that they were essentially one in the same. that's the importance of these e-mails that we got from huma, a clinton aide. a bunch of her records were released this week and it show as constant back and forth discussion that she had with doug band, one of the executives at the clinton foundation, where they were, in essence, talking about schedules together and talking about the secretary's events and he was, in many cases, asking for special audiences in front of her with prominent clinton foundation donors. so despite her promise that she was distancing herself from the foundation, all of this was continuing while she was secretary of state. >> what about this defense that some of her folks are offering, which is that she had -- the a.p. report is wrong because it focuses on too narrow of a group of people who met with her and, in fact, she was meeting with thousands of more people. does that wash? >> it doesn't wash. here's the thing.
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hillary clinton was obliged as secretary of state to meet with foreign officials and those are the meetings she was talking about. she wasn't obliged to meet with anybody outside of the state department. that's the 154 people that the a.p. report is talking about and it's notable, of the very few people she met outside the state department, the majority were clinton foundation donors. >> so dorothy, do you see it this way? >> well, i think that the short answer is no. i don't see it that way. the number of meetings she held was something like 1700 meetings. >> most of them were with diplomats. that's different than private interests, is it not? >> i don't think that's the case. here's the bottom line. with all of the talk, all of the revelations, there's one truth that stands out. you cannot find a single case of proof that any tangible anything was given, any gifts were given, anything to the detriment of the united states. >> there was no quo pro for the
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quid. >> there is no pro. and all of the continuing smoke with no fire is only adding to itself. if you take that a.p. report, it starts off by saying, more than half of the meetings that she held -- well, that's quite an eye catcher. more than half of the meetings when you have 150 people that you met, 75 out of them. >> but if you're a regular american and -- you know, i'd love to go talk to the secretary of state about my ideas but i haven't given $100 million to the clinton foundation. are you getting that meeting, james? >> well, i think it's a thing of value. certainly were companies, people every day in washington paying a lot of money to arrange meetings with the cabinet secretary. so i think the meeting itself is of some value. >> is of value. one of our readers wrote in of pennsylvania saying, why don't these donations to the clinton foundation violate the constitution where people like
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hillary clinton, the state department, are not supposed to be taking gifts from foreign powers. >> what about dorothy's point, though, that there really is no evidence so far that there was anything beyond meetings that they got in return, no policy shift, and we don't know that anything was done on his behalf. >> i think arranging a meeting is a gift but this is false. this claim that it was only meetings. we know, for example, one particular case where heavy clinton foundation owners ended up getting a favorable decision on the sale of large uranium supplies to russia -- to a russian firm, i should say. the claim by the clintons is that the state department under hillary clinton, mrs. clinton signed off on it but she wasn't very involved. that's been coming in to
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question lately. >> there are quids and quos lying all over the floor here and we don't know what they got in return. we don't know what it's based on. we know after the crowned prince, this goes back to the cattle futures where. >> when she was the first lady? >> when she was secretary of state. that agreement promised not just quid pro quo but we're going to separate this foundation and now the state department line is, oh, we met mrs. clinton, not her aide. we're always parsing the word is or what it means by this with the clintons. >> you can see it doesn't look good, dorothy? >> yes. i was about to say, yes, let's use the phrase, the optics don't look good. let's use another term. let's think about the charity itself which keeps getting
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buried in this discussion. that enterprise does enormous good and millions of lives of aid. this is a genuine charity. >> what the clintons did was insert themselves as a middle man on a lot of charity going to the third world. the idea that large foreign governments cannot get money to africa without routing it through the clinton foundation in new york is just absurd. >> okay. all right. thank you very much. fun discussion. still ahead, the trump transformation continues. is the gop nominee backing off his call to deport 11 million illegal immigrants and will the move expand his appeal or anger his core supporters? i'll never find a safe used car. start at the new show me minivans with no reported accidents. boom. love it. [struggles] show me the carfax. start your used car search at the all-new
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softening on his signature issue, illegal immigration. he originally called to remove 12 million undocumented immigrants and now he's saying that he will work with those who are law abiding. >> there's no amnesty. >> everybody agrees, we get the bad ones out. when i go through and meet thousands and thousands of people on this subject and i've had very strong people come up to me, really great, great people come up to me and say mr. trump, to throw them and the family out, it's so tough. i have it all the time. it's a very, very hard thing. >> trump later told cnn that there would be no path to legal immigration unless they first left the country. >> he's coming very close to the
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immigration reform that my former boss george w. bush -- >> i would say with the tried and corrected system to legal immigration and have some penalties for people that were here and not deporting. >> with enhanced border security. >> and allow them to come here without citizenship. and the problem is some of them are law abiding so he's coming around to reality. the problem is, anyone else who did this before and -- >> amnesty, amnesty, amnesty. >> that's right. anything short was called amnesty. anything short is deportation. >> dorothy? >> the problem with that is donald trump is not in the position of somebody finally discovering the truth. he's in the position of saying i have that base out there. i cannot do this.
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so he keeps wavering in this incredible way he's done in the last 24 hours because they are out there yelling, build the wall. they are going to be paying for the wall in mexico. so how can he conceivably go forward with even this admission of reality? he has to do these two things. >> kim, the economic realities are such that if he really did try to deport 11 million people in a couple of years, you probably couldn't do it. it would cost a huge amount of money to hire the judges and police to do it and then also take it out of reality. do you think donald trump's new advisers are telling him, you know what, if you don't move off your deportation position, you're not going to win? >> yeah. look, the reality is that there are some core trump supporters for whom their number one voting
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priority is deportation. no amnesty deportation. even when you see polls that gauge republican voters, the vast majority of republican voters, that's not necessarily their position on immigration. they want enhanced border security, as you said. they want some sort of situation in which there's a penalty, people pay a price for coming here illegally. that has to be balanced. those you might lose, that very small sliver of core trump supporters against the need for mr. trump to make progress with more educated white voters and minorities which is the coalition he's going to have to do better among all of us. he wants to have a chance of winning this election. >> james, do you think that trump is kind of moving to where it is a bitter position for him politically going into the election? >> i know it looks messy as he makes the evolution but what he's getting to, people are -- certainly most republicans, if
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he wants to tie up the conservative vote, we don't want to allow terrorists in the country, we want a screening for that, we want a culture of law. we don't want criminals to be allowed to be here but we recognize hardworking people should stay and we want them here and it kind of gets lost, all of this negative stuff about immigration, half of the billion dollar startups were founded by immigrants. >> go ahead, dorothy. >> all of this sounds very rationale of which donald trump is no member. i mean, here is somebody who cannot be with one position for more than two days and he has behind him the group to whom he is completely beholden. he does not want to lose them. you cannot say these are formal strategies. here's someone that came to power because i'm not your normal politician. >> where are they going to go?
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they are not going to hillary clinton. and i think now he makes it very tough for never trumpers in the republican party to have a case because you go issue after issue, he's now better than hillary clinton. >> i also think, look, the guy is moving closer to our position on this. and i think he should be applauded when he moves in the right directio mean, would we r stuck with this position that was untenable and really hurt the republican -- >> kim, what's fascinating to me is to watch the reaction of the clinton campaign. they, i think -- as soon as he jumped back on the cnn position to say, look, they may have to be deported after all, they said, see, there he is again. this is the real trump. i think they want him to stay with the most extreme immigration because they think that's better politics for them. they are afraid if he moves to the middle of immigration, somehow they won't be able to define him as extreme. >> they need him to be there.
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the reality is, most big policy areas, whether it's economics or this or anything, energy, donald trump has a better position and they don't want to talk about positions. >> thanks, kim. when we come back, donald trump running strong with evangelical voters. will they turn out in november? we'll ask ralph reed, next. the right things working together can give you an advantage. like trubiotics with immune support advantage. its unique formula supports immune health in two ways. with probiotics that work in your gut. and antioxidants that work throughout your body. trubiotics from one a day. words panera lives by. no artificial flavors, preservatives, sweeteners. no colors from artificial sources. 100% of our food will be clean by year's end. that's food as it should be. ♪
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i would like to thank the evangelical and religious community because, i'll tell you what, the support that they've given me -- and i'm not sure i totally deserve it -- has been
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so amazing. >> that was donald trump accepting the nomination and thanking evangelicals for their support. a poll taken this summer by the pew research center found that 78% of evangelical voters would vote for trump but it's more because of their dislike for hillary clinton than their enthusiasm for the republican nominee. ralph reed is joining me from atlanta. good to have you here. >> thanks, paul. good to be with you. >> even though evangelicals have been a core part of the republican coalition, how is donald trump doing with those voters compared to previous nominees? >> i think he's hitting at the industry standard if not heading to really the highest we've ever seen. if you look at the average of the four polls that we've had,
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you mentioned the pew poll. there have been three others since then that we consider to have reliable evangelical data. if you take the average of those, it's about 73% right now for donald trump and about 18% for hillary clinton. this is critical, paul, because it's the largest single constituency in the electorate. it's between 24 and 27% of the electorate. if you add frequently attending catholics, it's another 9 or 10%. it's bigger than the hispanic vote, the african-american vote and bigger than the feminist and gay vote combined. >> right. >> the highest ever recorded for a presidential nominee was george h.w. bush's 82% in 1988. 78% was recorded by george w. bush in 2004. and matched by mitt romney. >> all right.
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so donald trump not a socially conservative lifestyle, i think it's fair to say, traditionally. so what is resonating with those voters? what issue is he hitting that really count in this election? >> i think one thing that he's done, paul, that is important and it's sort of obvious but it gets missed a lot, is he has actually shown up to their audiences and asked for the vote. so that matters. you know, the presence, the physical presence of the candidate, a rhetorical appeal, an argument rhetorically that i share your values and i would say beyond that, his position on the sanctity of life, on traditional marriage, support for the state of israel, on religious freedom, particularly that progeny of cases by hobby lobby and little sisters of the poor and, finally, his
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full-throated opposition to the iran nuclear deal which i think resonates powerfully in this community because they consider iran to be a threat to the survival of the state of israel. >> it's interesting, ralph, when i listen to donald trump, two of the issues he's stressing are immigration and trade. >> that's true. he does mention those. but on a day-to-day basis, it's trade and immigration that he really hits hard. are those issues which resonate with evangelicals or is it something that they take for granted and go back to their core issues? >> i think among some it does. to the extent that it fits in to a broader tapestry of him saying that he's going to put america first, he's going to defend american interests, i think that resonates. but if you look at the polls among all voters, those two issues, trade and immigration,
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actually rate pretty low on the hierarchy. >> that's my point. >> what's driving this election even among voters of faith is the economy, the jobless and need of recovery, a forward-leaning national security posture that helps us combat and defeat islamic terrorism and then you start to get in to health care and some others. but that's the cluster of issues that people are voting on. >> so i look at the polls in the battleground states and some of the dates, georgia, for example, missouri, where evangelical voters are a strong part of the population and yet -- >> right. >> -- the election right now is a lot closer than you would expect with hillary clinton competitive. why? >> i think in the -- i can speak most intelligently about georgia
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but i think this applies to a lot of states. georgia has a large african-american vote. it's going to be, i think, 30% of the vote. >> right. >> and i think you take that and the democrat's share of the white vote -- and it's going to be competitive. and this is not news. i mean, john mccain barely beat obama here because of that surge of african-american votes. but, look, the bottom line is, and this is not exactly a news flash, donald trump has had a few hard weeks. it's made the ballot test a lot closer in places like texas and utah and missouri and georgia that it shouldn't be. my sense is that they have turned that corner and i think the polling is going to be a lot better for him not only in those red states but nationally and in the battleground states. >> the last time you came up to see us, you said this was a pick em race, 50/50.
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do you still feel that way, despite the polling? >> i think if donald trump stays on message and fixes the candidate performance issues he needed to deal with coming out of cleveland, i think this is an extremely competitive race. and i would say this, paul, but i'm not in the prediction business, these voters of faith are going to turn out and they are going to turn out in huge numbers and i think he's going to get north of 75% of that vote and if that is baked into the cake. >> right. >> there is no way that she runs away with this election. i think it will be competitive. >> all right. thanks, ralph reed. good to see you. thanks for coming in. >> good to see you, paul. still ahead, charges of racism from both sides as donald trump continues his outreach to minority voters. i'll look at trump's attack and clinton's response when we come back. even fatal to infants. it's whooping cough, and people can spread it without knowing it. understand the danger your new grandchild faces.
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accused him of taking hate mainstream. >> donald trump has built his campaign on prejudice and paranoia. he is taking hate groups mainstream. and helping a radical fringe take over the republican party. the disregard to the values that make our country great is profoundly dangerous. >> we're back with kim and george and dorothy and joe also joins the panel. kim, what do you think of the strategy here by trump, both to go after minority voters in an overt, explicit way and then the way he's doing this? >> he does need to do this. one thing that is notable is he kept that up over a week. he didn't just give one speech and be done with it, which is a
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problem that some republican candidates do at times. the way he's doing it is he's taking about policies that he wants to offer that he thinks will help mine nororities in th country. his criticism of hillary clinton is something that reminds me of george w. bush, the low expectations which he used in an education context. but the argument that the democrat party is low on solutions for things that are the biggest problems, a lot of inner city communities. >> dorothy, mitt romney only got 6% of the african-american vote. it's hard to do worse than that. it makes sense to try to appeal to those voters. >> it will do worse than that. yes, it makes sense if donald trump were another kind of candidate who could actually reach out. he does not go before black
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audiences. he says to them, you live in hell. >> you mean he's been making this pitch in front of largely white audiences in suburbs and -- >> that's right. it doesn't characterize that, by any means. the point is, where is the black middle class that lives -- >> you mean he should be -- >> it's a false portrack americ sengs is powerful. >> that argument, i think, is holding trump to a double standard. we've heard for more than a year that things are going terrible in black america. trump is clumsy but you can hardly say if he criticizes the
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conditions in minority communities, that's any different than anything else. >> somehow their lives are desperate and now when trump says, look, i have alternative solutions, we say, oh, boy, that's not fair? >> yeah. look, trump has a good message and what have you had to lose is a great message for republicans. it's a good argument. look, joe had a study of the african-american middle class and all in the red states and former confederacies. >> where i think i agree with you, dorothy, is where bill clinton uses that word about bigot regarding hillary clinton. his argument would resonate more if he kept on the issues like educational opportunity, jobs and so on. >> but he doesn't raise those issues. he says, quote, hillary's
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program are detrimental to blacks. what programs is he talking about? there are no specifics. it's a simple amount of name calling. >> thank you. let's talk about this alt-right argument that hillary clinton is referring to. what is the alt-right, joe? >> it's a term of grievance politics and identity politics as opposed to multiculturalism, globalism, pluralism. >> from the right? >> from the right. it's always been a tendency within the right conservatism and very broadly defined. going back to the paleo conservatives, pat buchanan. the different of the alt-right now is that they've gone digital. they've moved to fortune and reddit and so forth. it's a form of seeking out -- >> but how strong is it? >> it's not strong at all.
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hillary clinton called it a fringe movement in her speech this weekend and saying trump is taking it mainstream, i think, gives it too much credit. >> look, to the democratic party, the republican party is one big hate group and didn't start with donald trump. we have joe biden the last time around saying romney is going to put you all in chains to a group of african-americans. they always treat this. it's smart for hillary politically for two reasons. one, it gets us off the subject of these e-mails and plays to the concerns that people have about donald trump. >> all right. thank you all. still ahead, the naacp votes for a moratorium on charter schools. so what's behind the split? he is. but i'd like to keep being terrible at golf for as long as i can. new patented ensure enlive has hmb plus 20 grams of protein to help rebuild muscle. for the strength and energy to do what you love. new ensure enlive. always be you.
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moratorium on the expansion of charter schools despite recent polling that shows black americans and charters in particular. welcome. >> thank you. >> explain why the naacp would take this position. it's supposed fob for advancement of minorities. >> that's right. >> charter schools are -- a lot of the evidence shows -- helping the advancement of americans. >> the evidence shows strongly that the best performing charter schools in our country have changed the lives of young people, particularly young people of color. we're very disappointed with the naacp's take there. naacp is an historic -- >> how do you explain it?
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>> well, during the post-brown, there were efforts to decrease choice mechanisms. some states even closed their public schools. forcing families to get around this and naacp comes from the history and a different type of history. but it's also a case where it's a middle-class organization and i think they are the intellectual resistance to public charter schools from that standpoint. we give data showing that they are doing great things for color. >> so you think it's ideological, to some extent, saying these are traditional public schools and, therefore, we can't support them? or maybe is it because the unions are providing financial support to the naacp? >> i think there's a piece of it that's union and it's also more intellectual and policy based. but a large number of the
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economics of many communities is rooted in public opportunities so some view it as disrupting in a way that makes it difficult for black and white folks. >> you and i live in new york. >> that's right. >> and we know that you go to success academy. >> that's right. >> you go up to harlem and schools in the community that is predominantly minority, african-american and they are doing phenomenonly well. they are getting great result, generally speaking, for charter schools. why is it so hard to sell that message of the results? >> well, we need more leaders who are respected by black and brown folks. i think it's important to be clear, why there are a handful of organizations that express opposition, hundreds of thousands of black and brown
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families are choosing charter schools and planning to protect them. we're going to win this fight over its history. >> well, as you know, there are demonstrations here, half of charters. it's full of -- thousands of parents out there saying give our kids the same choice that the affluent americans have and the president of the united states, for example, had. >> true. >> it's fascinating to me that you've seen a regression, despite all of that, among some democratic party leaders. bill clinton has been for charters. >> yes. >> if you look at this election campaign, secretary clinton has backtracked from what her husband's position was. she's not expressing some wariness. >> she's also, on multiple occasions, before the teacher unions, expressed support as well. >> right. >> first lady of arkansas, first lady of the united states,
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working on the children's defense fund, and now beyond secretary clinton who has expressed support for charters, there's no question that there was substantial influence and fighting for workers is something that we support but we have to support the things that work best for babies and if it doesn't work, we have to be able to change. charters throughout this country are changing the lives of young people, particularly black and brown families. and i'm very confident, as we continue to press that case over time, the democratic party is true to its values. >> there was a case this week in california, the regara decision, where they wanted to lower minority plaintiffs. you are denying the right to an equal education because of the poor performance of traditional schools and yet the state democratic establishment supported the unions against their case and, of course, now they have lost in state court. >> yes. >> how do you -- why so much
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opposition? >> again, the teachers union is a political force. they fought for workers and educators. they fought for them for 40 years. they have significant power within the democrat party. we've found ways to work with them, particularly, teacher prep. underperforming teachers and we have to work with that. we have to get them into the class in the first place. what's going to happen over the next generation, build on president obama's legacy and we have to organize the fans and communities to sustain the policies that work for kids. >> javer, thank you so much for coming in. a very important debate inside the democratic party. when we come back, the epipen outrage. the skyrocketing cost of the device. but what is really behind the price? find out when we come back. but r my diabetic nerve pain any longer.
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of 10 or 15% every quarter. they've done this since 2008. the reason they are able to do so is they have a mondopoly. nobody else can get into the market. they've been blocked by the fda, by the food and drug administration. >> why? this is not a super complicated technology. >> no. the fda has regulatory anxiety about allowing new companies on to the market. they have to prove that their competitor is the same as the epipen. it's hard to do. >> the same? even if it does 85% of the job or 95% of the job? >> right. and the truth is, the epipen fails all the time. it's not the gold standard of delivering doses of adrenaline. so this is completely a regulatory artifact and not what
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would be happening in a competitive market. >> how many competitors have been blocked by the fda? >> we have one competitor who had to withdraw it after 26 misdiagnoses. that was probably due to the fda. and then you've got two companies right now trying to get their product onto the market and the fda is demanding more tests and data. >> i guess the argument would be, bill, never mind that -- >> true. >> i think that's irrefutable. still, it's immoral. >> they can do it without competition. we have to get back to the essential truth. the opposite is not cooperation. it's collusion. that's what we'reeing. congress doesn't lower prices. competition does. what joe is saying is that what the fda does is take the model of the epipen and -- like the
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taxi limousine and the costs are so high. but to raise prices and even though there's a protected monopoly, let's face it, do we really need to charge 500 bucks for these things, james? >> we were talking about regulatory anxiety. there's a treatment for this. it's free markets. we don't have to rely on the ceo to be a very nice person or not. people talk -- like hillary clinton, talk about how he's a policy wonk. she gets to the back of every briefing brooke. we've been through this. this is just the latest. politician scream and then we learn that the fda has been
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keeping the competitors out of the market. she needs to study this industry. she's learned nothing from the failure of her '93 health care plan, the same ideological approach instead of looking at the facts. >> why is it controversial for government? why is it never the government that is unconscienceable? >> the problem is that companies like mylan are setting the bargain. consumers are willing to have innovation and i think the dangers of the drug companies are going to get hillary clinton's drug price controls. >> joe, thank you all. we'll take one more break. when we come back, hits and misses of the week. all. when we come back, the hits and misses of the week. now you can't spell nutrition without nut, am i right? i mean whose to say it's pronounced nu-triton, anyway? my mixes contain delicious nuts, specially blended for your optimal nut-rition. that's right, i just changed a word in the english dictionary, forever. planters. nutrition starts with nut.
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time now for our hits and misses of the weekend. kim, start us off. time now for our hits and
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misses. kim, start us off. >> bikini bans were popping up in french coastal beaches. you could go to the beach in a full wet body suit to go surfing and that was fine but not if you were there for religious convictions. it's good because it essentially holds up france's right to not tell people what they are supposed to wear. >> william? >> paul, this is to jonathan perry, a republican state senator in louisiana proposing to regulate the cajun navy. it's the unofficial nickname for the citizens that just take their flat bottomed boats and go out to rescue people. it's very sophisticated. they are using facebook and apps to help people deliver it. these are people taking the initiative. the last thing they need is
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regulation. >> joe? >>? a hit for the rare college, the university of chicago, in a letter this week, the dean of students stole the incoming freshmen to prepare to be challenged and even discomforted by their education. he wrote, our commitment does not support so-called trigger warnings and do not create safe spaces where individuals can retreat from perspectives that are different than their own. congratulations for treating students like the adults they are. >> james? >> paul, more good news from campus. there's been a sighting of an honest liberal, law professor, lawrence tribe, studied the d.c. and there's a great book called "the intimidation game". >> who's the author of that, jim? >> kim strassel.
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>> thank you, james. >> thank you to my panel and for all of you watching. i'll paul gigot. hope to see you all back here next week. hello. i'm eric shawn. welcome to america's news headquarters. >> and i'm patti. we have a surrogate explanation for what is described as trump's softening of the immigration plan. and there is talk about pay to play. the clinton campaign will respond. and the first major storm in years threatening the gulf of mexico and the atlantic. meteorologist janice dean is


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