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politicians say that should be left to local school boards. that's it for today, have a great holiday weekend, and we'll see you next fox news sunday. on day one, we will begin working on an impenetrable, physical, tall, powerful, beautiful southern border wall. our message to the world will be this. you cannot obtain legal status or become a citizen of the united states by illegally entering our country. can't do it. >> that was donald trump in
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phoenix, arizona wednesday doubling down on his hard line -- despite some recent suggestions that he might be softening. the speech followed a meeting with mexican president enrique pena nieto. joining the panel, this week "wall street journal" columnist, assistant editorial page editor, and editorial board member. so, kim, let's start it off by talking about the mexican trip, which a lot of people in advance said was high risk for donald trump. how do you think that turned out for him? >> i think that that was a good moment for trump. because, look, the point of this was to take this opportunity to go down and show that he had the ability to talk to a foreign
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leader, he had the temperaturemetemperament to go and do a negotiation, this is something hillary clinton has hit him hard on, not being able -- being able to do the photo-op and shake hands, that was arguably a good moment for trump. >> you know all those folks down there, it didn't play as well in mexico, for an american audience, i tend to agree with kim. >> i don't think it was a good moment at all, and in mexico, president pena nieto is being called a traitor for having a meeting with donald trump. at the moment he may have seemed diplomatic, when he came back, he basically -- that this guy if he becomes president, is not someone we can trust. >> the mexican president did invite both hillary clinton and trump. and donald trump is the only one that took him up on it.
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i don't understand why hillary clinton didn't do it. >> i think it's a better opportunity for hillary clinton. i think what was going on there is the mexican president thought if trump is softening and he comes down here and we take some progress on a more reasonable relationship between the two countries, that he would get credit for it. and i think it backfired on him and it may have worked well with trump for his base, but i think for the hispanics in this country, they didn'tlike it at all. >> i would seem to me that one of the arguments, james, against donald trump that hillary clinton is making, that basically he can't be -- he can't behave in polite company. he looked onstage to me, with pena nieto, sober, gracious, respectful. >> in the moment. but the follow-up, i think was devastating. >> all right, let's talk about the follow-up. >> i was going to say in the moment, just to disagree a bit.
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i thought he looked presidential. i thought it was also a great moment for pena nieto, because he was the states man, he understands this is their neighbor and he -- whether it's trump or clinton, he's saying i understand we have a relationship, i want to work on it, so i think he did the right thing. the blow back, i wish donald trump had just gotten back on the plane with a bucket of kentucky fried and went back to new york and called it a day. unfortunately it didn't happen that way. he seems to feel that he was sandbags because mr. pena nieto after the meeting said i'm not paying for the wall. which is not a surprise. mr. trump is making an unreasonable request of our neighbor to pay for a wall to keep some of our neighbors down south out. it's a totally unreasonable request. so i think he did not react well. the moment was a triumph for mr. trump and i think from there it went downhill.
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>> let's talk about the speech and the immigration policy, we had ten days of worth, we didn't know if he would be softening, that was his word, or would it not be. i read it as no softening. >> i think trump has gone from point a to point a on immigration, he essentially embraced mass deportation, had a ten point plan on all the security measures that he was going to take not only at the border, but e-verify, which is a dysfunctional program to kind of cross check who has the right papers and no insentive for people who are already here illegally to come out and have some kind of legal status going forward. >> so on joe's point, i want to talk about the politics of this immigration speech s because it's interesting to me, after you have that event in mexico,
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come back and you indicate you may be softening and then you don't, what's the politics, what's the political calculation? >> i think what he was trying to do with the mexico friendshitri trying to walk a very fine line here. he went down to mexico to look presidential. but he's saying i can work with, i can negotiate, he's trying to appeal to the hispanic audience in the united states. >> why no -- >> this is blow back that he got from any of his base supporters, really hammering on him, suggesting he was going wobbly on his signature issue, that seems to have resonated and that seems to have informed the speech in the end, which i don't see how you can say in any way was a softening, but was an even more aggressive version of what he's been saying. >> trump has something called
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national hispanic advisory council. one member resigned from it. one member came out and called the whole thing a scam. >> after the speech? >> and the -- a really free market conservative hispanic says he's likely to pull his support from trump. >> he's running out of time to redefine, i thought he was moving toward the sweet spot, we're going to fight criminality and terrorism. >> still ahead, as the presidential campaign kicks into high gear, polls show the race between hillary clinton and trump tightening, both nationally and in some key battle ground states. what it means for the labor day sprint to the white house. when we come back. ly glucerna h,
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as the candidates gear up for the sprint to the election in november. real clear politics average giving hillary clinton a 4.5% lead over donald trump nationally, down from almost 8 points earlier this month. that lead shrinks in a three-way race. and in some key swing states, trump appears to be chipping away at clinton's lead as well. and as a republican pollster good to see you. what do you make of this trump modest bounce? >> well, it's very interesting, i think everyone keeps looking for big movement in the race, both candidates, if you look at the average of all the polling going back the last year, both candidates have been working
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within a certain range, band width if you will on the ballot. clinton's bandwidth is a little bit higher, and donald trump's a little bit lower, but it comes to hillary bumping to the top of her range and trump bumping to the middle. i think what we're seeing is with the numbers, hillary has been inching down to the bottom of her range and trump has had a good couple of weeks leading up to her speech in arizona on immigration this week. >> on that point, ed, i think what it looks to me like is hillary clinton's favorables have been going down and with that her ballot test from the mid 40s and upper 40s now back down, and that's the big change in the last two weeks. >> actually the image of the two candidates is not changing much. both started a year ago with a 55% unfavorable rating, if you look at the average today, hillary is at a 54%, trump is at
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a 56% unfavorable. those numbers are baked in, everybody keeps looking for big movements in the race. i think the only potential for big movements out of that band width that they have been and that's in the pittsburgfirst de. i think first of all, there's not much for the candidates to move their favorable, unfavorable rating, but you could see him bumping up towards the top of his range and her knocked to the bottom or vice versa. but the bottom line is, i think there's this race is if you look at the numbers today, you mentioned 4 1/2 points, if you look at the race today, i believe that's about where the ration is, that's kind of the center of them both being in the middle of their band width. >> is this a race where one of the two candidates could win the
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presidency with 45% of the vote? >> it is and that's where you look at, i think you're going to see everyone looking more and more at the four-way ballot. the interesting thing about the four-way ballot is actually hillary loses more, than for example her latest fox news poll, she had a six-point lead in the two-way, and a four-point lead in the four-way. we have downplayed the four-way ballot, because those candidates in the fall go away. i think you're going to see him drien to the four -- if not voting for those candidates they may well stay at home. that's where you see the numbers change. >> it puzzles me that that vote for gary johnson, the libertarian would be coming from senator clinton, the libertarian would be taking votes away from
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the more traditional free market party, the republican party, why do you think this might be happening in taking votes from her in this election? >> again, it's coming from independents, it's not coming from democrats or republicans, it's coming from independents who have a 65% unfavorable rating of both these can it dats, what you see is that donald trump in the four way trump's advantage with those independents shrinks because he's also losing some of those independents, but in the case of hillary clinton, she has two places those independents can go, they can go to stein or they can go to johnson, and that's what's happening. >> do you see any chance that trump can flip this, where he comes up on top, other than maybe a sterling debate performance? >> i have felt all along that there's nothing in the numbers that says he can't win this race, so there's always going to be an opportunity for him. he's at a little bit of a
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disadvantage, if you look at the numbers, but certainly he could come into play. i think more and more, the focus is going to become the ground game. i was talking to someone this week about hillary having 450 people on the ground for her campaign in ohio and with trump, he's depending on the national party, they have 100 people on the ground in ohio for him. that could make three or four points difference on election day. and if she has a superior turnout, these numbers all of a sudden become that much harder to overcome. >> does it look to you like pennsylvania may be, which trump had targeted may be out of reach for his campaign? >> interesting this week, real clear politics moved it back into a toss up on the presidential. when you're looking at the senate race, as long as you keep the margin of the loss, if he
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a milestone of sorts for hillary clinton, a new high for the former secretary of state. donald trump's unfavorable
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rating is at 63% in the survey, making them the two most unpopular presidential candidates in 30 years of polling. back with our panel. it's still winnable, but trump is trailing, where do you see the race? >> he's got her right where he wants her. in all seriousness, he's trailing as he has been for a while. les of a deficit than before. when kellyanne conway joined this campaign, she said -- when you look at the upside of -- the incumbents, you have to consider her the incumbent, because she's the establishment candidate running for obama's third term. they often lose, late deciders tend to give the new guy a try.
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his immigration speech a side, he's actually had a few weeks here of a fairly disciplined message on the economy, on taxes, so i think he's in a fairly good spot. and he's better on tv than she is. >> it's a change candidacy, if the incouple belt is polling as poorly as she is. the question is can that challenger present himself as a tolerable president? worth taking the risk, and that's the barrier trump hasn't gone over yet. >> ed's mentioned the ground game. and trump's ground game is really weak, if you look at the number of offices she has open, compared to the number of offices she has open in important states, he's way behind. he says he's going to catch up, but in florida, she has 34 offices in florida, he has one. what ask he going to do to fix that? he's going to use rvs, he's
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going do put one in the i-4 corridor and two others that are going to roam around the state. his strategy there is registering voters. >> there's a real disconnect here in just the breadth of the organization, joe, donald trump, clinton is really a machine. trump isn't raising much money and he doesn't have much of an organization. >> it's remarkable if you look at it. more money has been spent on this year's senate races than the presidential contest because trump is not spending money on advertising. so that's one thing i think he could do. i think a good trump, a more professional trump could go a long way to close this gap. it's advertising, organization, showing that he has a better temperament tone, experiencing, if he does those things, i think he could make it more except
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competitive. >> it does seem that a lot of people are giving trump a more disciplined campaigner over the last couple of weeks, as james suggested, reading off the teleprompter, he doesn't have any rifts that are getting him into trouble. do you think that that is true and that's -- can that help him get over that barrier of people concluding that he is a plausible president? >> i think it's been a stunning reversal and he has had a good couple of weeks leading up to that immigration speech and we'll see what affect that immigration speech has on him. but clearly, he brought in this new team, clearly has decided that he is going to act in a sort of presidential disciplined manner. i think the frustration for trump supporters will be in the end, if he does all of that and say he does it perfectly and say he has a greet debate performance, in the end it comes down to what joe was talking
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about, he just doesn't have the ground game because he didn't make that investment. that's going to a great nothing for these support ers out there. >> he was telling them, look, i'm funding my own campaign, i don't need to take money from all these rich guys and to fail on something so funding major leag league -- >> at a minimum to keep faith with his supporters and whatever he does to make sure they're backing him. she's been outspending, out advertising, outorganizing him. the facts are bad for her. the american people don't like the clinton's corruption, the dishonesty. just this week, the clintons have taken $16 million from taxpayers to support them in post it presidential life. >> that only means that she's an
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the fbi on friday released a
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summery report as well as the notes from clinton's july 2 interview with agents. the documents show that clinton could not remember any -- retention of federal records or handing classified information. mrs. clinton also told the fbi that she didn't recall receiving any emails that she thought should not be on annen classified system. the fbi was unable to track down all the devices used by clinton to be able to be sure that none of her emails were hacked. so you now have looked at the fbi report as have i, and what's your biggest take away? >> mrs. clinton's remarkable lack of memory, 30 or 40 times
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she said i don't recall. at one point she blames the concussion she had at the end of her term that perhaps was the reason why she can't remember -- she had a blackberry device that she kept in a sensitive part of the state department, where blackberry and other computer devices are banned, because that's where classified information is created, used and discussed and she -- saying well, they're on my system, i was relying on other people not to send me bad material that was classified, but she admits that she was the that should have known. i'll tell you one thing that stood out to me, that colin powell warned her in an email at the beginning of her term that if she wasn't careful and if she
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used the personal email, all of what she sent could become federal records. instead of saying i shouldn't use my private server, she went on to use the private server, despite the warning. >> and powell seemed to suggest don't tell anybody about it and boy, if that wasn't an inseptember ty for her. why she didn't tell anybody outside the state department. frankly it seems like she didn't tell anybody about it inside the state department. because according to the fbi the other -- the other big thing is that after the email scandal was outed by the "new york times," her emails were deleted. when they were asked about what
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went on at that meeting, no one got an answer. >> 17,448 work related emails that she and her lawyers did not turning over to the state department, are those the emails that in fact you have been trying to get a hold of in your federal freedom of information act request? >> that's curious, because it answers a question perhaps, because we have been told there are 14,900 emails. this is a different number, it's even more. >> there's a second disk that has classified material. are there 2,000 records that are classified? that were deleted by mrs. clinton? it seems to suggest some of them were. >> we'll probably never see what was deleted. the fbi says we don't have access, they didn't get access
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to the archive server, and so they probably could never get those back. >> no, today talk about the archive computer being lost. her having 13 devices, which is probably a world record for even in this day and age. so much for convenience, if you need 13 devices and you're going through 13 devices. and what comes across here, paul, is this is a pretty big operation and they spent a lot of time moving forwards around, and once it became known that she had the records, removing them and then deleting them and then making sure they were really dleeeleted. the fbi really blew it this time. and there's a lot of elephants in the room related to records
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retenti retention. and the freedom of information act and the pass on the classified information, mrs. clinton think she's alarmed -- it's remarkable. >> and the pump of this in your view, and we don't have a lot of time here, was to disguise -- make sure that the public would not see any communication she might have had with the clinton foundation, for example, and politically related emails. >> i think the cover-up is worse than the crime, there's usually something to cover up. and we're seeing in these email releases, she didn't want access to any of her personal emails, because benghazi guilty knowledge and these pay to play connections with the foundation for sure. >> how many of these emails do you think will come out before the election? >> the government's going to have to tell us in the middle of september, when are we going to
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get these 14,900 that the fbi recovered so they'll be coming out over the next few months it's just a question of how quickly they force the obama administration to move. still ahead, obama care makes a return to the campaign trail, with rising premiums and shrinking options, could the controversy aloft keep republican control of the senate?
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hike, more than twice the national average. and america's fourth largest health insurer -- congresswoman ann kirkpatrick bragged about her obama care vote saying -- >> it's also the one i'm most plowed about. >> john mccain is leading the fight to stop obama care. >> all right, joe, no doubt about where mccain thinks he can win on that. that's -- between now and november, what new are we likely to learn about the affordable care act? >> we'll get final premium rate increases, right now they're just submissions to state regulators, it's about 18 to 22% on average nationally. >> for one year? >> that's for one year. you had a mckenzie study this week, saying that the average lowest rate increase is going to be 11%. so you're really having some
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serious problems with these exchanges and i think health care has receded a bit in recent years as a political issue because republicans can't do anything about it as long as president obama is in office. now that's changing and i think it's re-emerging as a real flash point in this election. >> what about the choices? because there's a new kaiser study showing that 31% of the counties in the united states are only going to have one insurer in the obama care exchanges? is this lack of choice becoming an issue? >> in arizona for example, there's several county where is there's zero insurers selling any kind of obama care policies. you've got a big withdrawal of the major insurers, it's really down to kind of medicaid contractors, who are selling these plans, low quality, very narrow network of doctors and hospitals and just not what people have come to expect from normal private insurance. so it's becoming an issue in
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people's lives and that naturally come into politics. >> mary? >> well, i think you mentioned the 31% of the counties in the united states, another statistic that came out of that same study is that almost 60% of the counties will have two insurers. the withdrawal of these companies that can't make money in these countries is leaving americans with very little choice, and when you don't have choice, that pushes up prices. >> on the politics of this, chuck schumer, thinking he could rung indiana and have a pretty free run. new that vote he made back then is going to come back here and become an issue, are republicans ready to make that an issue?
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>> his competitor out there todd young is already hitting him on that, talking about how he was a deciding vote for obama care back in 2010, trying to make him responsible for that vote. and you've seen this play out in several states where there are people in wisconsin, for instance, russ feingold was found who voted for obama care, out in colorado, michael bennett was one who voted for obama care, the independents are definitely trying to hold their feet to the fire on that and think it could be a defining issue. what's also notable about the senate race, is that aside from actually having some democrats who voted for the bill, it so happens that some of the states that are being worst hit by the law, like arizona, like north carolina, just happen to be places where there are very competitive senate races and there are republicans who really moved too aggressively attempting to make it a defining
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issue. >> how are democrats responding to this, are they defending it? are they saying like ann kirkpatrick, it's the proudest vote i have made or are they walking away from it? >> what you're beginning to see is a lot of pressure on democrats to say what they would do, and i'm not really sure this is going to work for them. down in florida for instance, he said we need a public option. >> that's where they're falling out. >> and him clinton has said that as well too. and i don't think that necessarily helps him. republicans are saying, look, you're going to make a bad situation worse, and they're jumping on that as an aggressive way too. >> more government control? -- >> i'm sorry, pardon the interruption, huge step towards national health care to be
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passed. >> obama care has already run kind of public option light, we have got those private corporations out of the business, they ran these co-ops. they have failed all over the country, you took away the profit motive, patients didn't benefit, taxpayers obviously didn't either. it's hard to call this a sleeper issue. because obviously it's failures are manifest. you look at russ feingold, he has spent years pretending that it's working and it's not. it's a problem for him. >> still ahead this labor day weekend, to look at the state of emergencies economy and some disturbing new data about the plight of working age men in america. to severe plaque psoriasis, isn't it time to let the real you shine through? introducing otezla (apremilast). otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable after just 4 months,
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with labor day weekend upon us, we now look at the state of american economy, and new data from -- america is now home to a vast army of jobless men, noting that there are roughly 7 million between ages 25 and 55 who are not only unemployed, but no longer looking for work. got the jobs number this week, about 150,000 new jobs, where are we in terms of the economy? >> i think it's -- first of all we're in the late stages of a very long recovery, but it's been very tepid, we haven't grown very fast. basically if you want to understand what's happening in the labor market, looking as unemployment't as helpful as looking at the employment rate,
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in other words those that are actually participating in wages, those who are participating, those able-bodied workers who are actually looking for work or working. and wages have not been growing and fundamentally that comes down to productivity. because productivity is a jargon word but it means output per worker and you can't have wages going up if you don't have output per worker. >> and that question kline in productivity is happening at this time that you have this terrible business environment. we see stocks at very high levels, if you look at the levels of the company, they are not investing in new that allow people to produce more or get paid for. basically followed the gdp
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numbers, it's a slow growth economy, a political economy. >> let's take the factors, i think benefiting clinton would be low gasoline prices, which is often a political hot button, you've got low inflation, you've got no recession, on the other hand, you have had such mediocre wage growth and so growth. >> the other thing i would throw in is you have a low unemployment rate, the rate is low because a lot of people have left the workforce. and just are no longer participating in the economy. i would give a slight political advantage to trump on tstate of things, this would normally be a change election, can he prosecute the economic case? we really haven't seen that so far. >> what you mean is make the
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case. here's what's happening, here's why you haven't had the growth and wage increases, here's high the policies aren't working and here's my alternative. that's not the kind of thing he typically does. >> he doesn't say look what obama care is doing to the labor market, pushing people into part time work,he's not saying here's why energies -- >> he's mentioned those things from time to time, but he has trouble staying on message. and another giant problem is that he is against free trade, and free trade is a very important part of the engine of growth. >> let's talk about the everstat numbers. what about those numbers that
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are really disspiriting. >> he actually calls it an out and out crisis. that basically the percentage of the population, more able-bodied men not working not even actively seeking work, than any time since basically following world war ii. and moreover, they fall into certain demographics and types of people as well too. it's often african-americans, for instance, and they're not using their time when they're not working very gainfully either, they're sort of proving to be a drag on society in addition. so it is a very bleak situation, and one that hasn't been talked about enough and that's why he's highlighting it because it's a crisis. >> i think that people who don't have the skills in a changing economy to adapt -- >> another factor we haven't talked about yet is we have
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really seen a decline in new business creation, the creation of new employers to hire these people. and that's really a much better way to solve an issue of someone not having the skills or their old company fading away, we're not creating new businesses, this is the you didn't build that culture that president obama has presided over for years. i would say is that mr. donald trump -- getting the government off the back of particularly small business. another point, small business is hurting morning brig business is. >> that's the focus. >> hits and misses of the week. for lower back pain sufferers, the search for relief often leads to places like... this... this... or this. today, there's a new option.
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time for our hits and misses of the week. >> paul this is a big miss for the supreme court to uphold the voter id law. this is a reminder of how important the supreme court is in this upcoming presidential ace, the id law they want to reinstate is not much different than the one the court has jeopardy he upheld in the past. >> paul, another big mess in the european union, in rewriting iowa's tax law, 14 billion in retroactive compliance. the eu decided that ireland's corporate tax rate is too low and therefore a subsidy. this is a tax on tax
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competitiveness, and if you want to know why british voters voted to leave the eu, this is perhaps why. >> a million people turned out in the streets of caracas to ask the military dictator ship to abide by the constitution and allow it to judge the president, whether the people want him or to say no, he should be recalled before the end of the year. it's very important it's done before the end of the year, because if it's done before the end of the year. and the people of venezuela deserve a lot of credit in taking to the streets. >> mother teresa being canonized for her work in calcutta, shared a message of faith, hope and
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love, and really just a life of service, rather than condemning people for the sins of global warming. >> that's it for this week's show. thanks to my panel. thanks to all of you for watching. hope to see you right here next week. >> hello i'm gregg jarrett and welcome to america's election headquarters. >> topping the news this hour, tropical storm warnings are in effect as hermine works his way up the east coast. history made at the vatican, as pope francis -- and a decades long mystery, the body of a missing young boy is found, what's next in the cold case investigation. we begin with post tropical storm hermine, this system is


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