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another san bernardino, another orlando, is uppermost on our minds. >> 9/11, never forget. i'm kelly wright. coming up next, "fox news sunday." for all of your headlines, log on to foxnews.com. i'm chris wallace. 15 years after 9/11, we'll examine the security of our homeland. are americans more or lesss sa? how's it shaping the trump/clinton campaign? [ bell tolling ] as we pause to remember one of the darkest days in our nation's history, we get a assen assessmf future threats. >> you cannot eliminate all risk, whether it's a terrorist attack or a mass shooting. >> today secretary of homeland security jeh johnson on keeping america safe. then, a debate between newt
gingrich, a trump adviser, and congressman bacera on which candidate is better equipped to be commander in chief. plus, is russia trying to disrupt the u.s. elections? >> we'll not ignore attempts to interfere with our democratic processes. >> we'll ask our sunday panel what could happen in november. and our power player of the work nfl quarterback kirk cousins playing for a lot more than winning games. >> god wired me to be a leader and to want to impact people. >> all right now on "fox news sunday." and hello again from fox news in washington. today marks 15 years since the worst terror attack on u.s. soil. once again, we pause to reflect on those who died and in less than two months we go to the polls to choose our next commander in chief. in a moment, we'll speak with secretary of homeland security
jeh johnson about the threat the nation faces now. but first, we take you to ground zero in manhattan where family members are reading the names of the almost 3,000 people who lost their lives that terrible day. they're about to mark the moment when the second plane hit the world trade center's south tower. >> craig michael blass. >> rita blou. >> richard middleton blood jr. >> michael andrew bacardi. >> john paul bakino. >> bikal l. bakino. >> susan. >> francis bodly. >> bruce douglas bone. >> mary katherine murphy bofa. >> niklas andrew ogden. >> darren christopher bohan.
canfield d. boon. >> mary jane -- >> earlier, i spoke with secretary of homeland security jeh johnson about the threats we still face 15 years after 9/11. secretary johnson, thank you for talking with us. on this 15th anniversary of 9/11, how would you characterize the threat to the u.s. homeland right now? >> chris, we are stronger against another 9/11 style terrorist directed attack from overseas. our government's become pretty good at detecting and preventing something hatched from overseas,
launched from overseas. how we're challenged with the lone wolf style attack. the self radicalized actor here in the homeland. terrorist organizations can reach in through the internet and recruit and inspire and that's a relatively new environment and requires a whole of government response. >> i want to try, sir, if i can to break up on the threat. terrorists have a greater safe haven in isis than they have had any time since 9/11. the fbi says there are more than 900 active investigations against lone wolves and other suspects in all 50 states. a test last year found tsa screeners missed weapons 95% of the time. last year almost 500,000 people overstayed their visas and the number of africaner and
asian migrants trying to cross the border from mexico is rising. secretary johnson, i don't have to tell you those are all serious holes in our national safety net. >> there are a couple things, chris. first, our u.s. military along with our international partners, as we speak, is taking back territory from isil in iraq-syria. we have taken out a number of those leaders, those focused on external attacks. you're correct to note the number of open, pending investigations by the fbi. here in the homeland, the fbi has become pretty good when it comes to counter-terrorism capability detecting these types of things. aviation security, tsa is actually stronger now than it was a year ago after those horrible ig test results. as you know, we replaced the tsa administrator, hired a new one, pete neffinger, who is doing a terrific job. we were challenged earlier this summer but we have not reduced
our number of aviation security, and we are investing in more aviation security and cfos. in terms of the southwest border, i just recently asked our people to focus on immigrants coming illegally from other hemispheres, from the middle east and so forth, to detect them and block them before they even get to the homeland, working with governments in south america, central america to prevent that from happening. you're correct that we're seeing illegal migrants coming from africa, coming from the middle east, and we're doubling down on preventing that from happening before they even reach the southwest border. >> so bottom line, is the threat we face now worse or less serious than during 9/11? because the chairman of the 9/11 commission, tom keane and lee hamilton, say they think it's worse. >> we're stronger when it comes
to preventing against a 9/11 style attack. we very plainly have a serious threat environment when it comes to the lone wolf actor, those who self-radicalize. that's a relatively new phenomenon that we've got to protect against. the public can play a role, building bridges to communities where terrorists are trying to recruit from within. it's a new environment and there are a lot of people working really hard to protect against it. but it's still here and will probably be with us for a while, chris. >> i want to turn to another threat that we appear to face, and that is russian hacking into our political system. democratic party files, election, databases in at least two states, arizona and illinois. do you believe that the russians are trying to undermine confidence in our democratic processes, and what is the possibility that they could actually disrupt the vote count in november? >> first, there is an open investigation into the dnc hack,
into various intrusions that we've seen, into state election systems. it would be pretty hard to, chris, alter a ballot count, alter how we tabulate votes in this country, in part because the system is so decentralized. there are some 9,000 jurisdictions involved in the election process. but i've been sending the message to state and local election officials that my department, our cyber security experts, are in a position to help them further secure their presence on the internet where it exists. we're in the midst of having that conversation right now. we're going to keep at that between now and november 8 and beyond. >> mr. secretary, does it bother you when you hear a major american political figure say that vladimir putin is more of a leader than president obama? >> well, chris, i don't comment on what the political candidates say.
this election season. i think we have to be extremely careful, however, in what we say about foreign leaders. republicans and democrats on both sides of the aisle have a lot of concerns what vladimir putin is up to. we need to be careful in our rhetoric. that's a nonpartisan-bipartisan statement, chris. >> let me ask you about another nonpartisan-bipartisan issue. in july of last year, you stopped using your government computer for personal e-mails and you banned all homeland security people from doing the same. question, why? >> well, accessing your personal e-mail online on a desktop at work is not a cyber security best practice. so in homeland security,
certainly in the leadership of homeland security, we have to set an example and be a model of best practices. >> and do you know if your material you receive is classified, whether or not it's marked, whether or not there is a header? do you know simply from the content, and do you feel an obligation to protect classified material regardless of the marking? >> well, i certainly feel an obligation to protect classified material. regardless of the marking. from my department of defense days, i think i can recognize it. in fact, very often when i'm in a skiff talking with my people, i question whether something has been correctly classified based upon what i'm reading, based upon the substance of what i'm reading. but classified material should be on a wholly separate system, separate and apart from the unclassified daily e-mail traffic that we see on our
official networks. >> finally, sir, you were a lawyer working in new york city on 9/11. and in fact, it turns out that this is your birthday. i wonder, what is your central memory from that terrible day and how does it shape the way you approach your job as the secretary of homeland security? >> well, thanks for asking. i was a lawyer in private law practice here in manhattan on 9/11/2001. i had just left the pentagon nine months earlier as general counsel of the air force. everybody remembers the weather that day, how beautiful it was. i recall, frankly, a real feeling of guilt that i had left public service. i wanted to be back at the pentagon where it was going to be all hands on deck. and i remember coming down to the street in manhattan looking for a hospital where i could donate blood. but given the nature of the tragedy, the blood banks were full and nothing was needed. you were either dead or you had escaped.
and, chris, i have dedicated myself over the last nearly eight years now in defense, in homeland security, to addressing the homeland security threat. making us safer and improving our national security. thank you for asking. >> mr. secretary, thank you for talking with us on what i know is all of us a very difficult day. thank you, sir. >> thank you, sir. up next, hillary clinton and donald trump clash over national security. we'll bring in the sunday group to discuss the threats one of them will face as commander in chief. plus, what would you like to ask the panel about how safe the nation is 15 years after 9/11? just go to facebook@foxnewssunday and we may use your question on the air.
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a live look at the pentagon where a crowd is now gathering to remember the 189 people who lost their lives there on september 11. and it's time now for our sunday group. syndicated columnist george will, fox news political analyst juan williams. julie pace covers the white house and the campaign for the associated press. and washington examiner contributor lisa boothe. george, there is so much more security in this country now than there was 15 years ago, but the threat has also grown. bottom line, are we safer? >> i think we're probably safer from terrorism for several reasons. there's an asterisk. i'll come back to that in a minute. the war began badly, the war on terrors, but our wars often begin badly. pearl harbor, korea, and then we begin to learn.
we've done a lot of learning about terrorism, and we made as the secretary stressed, technological advancements, some of which we know, some of which we're not allowed to know. so i think we are safer. i think the world at large is less safe because the threat is metastasized and europe with the unassimilated communities of immigrants is just proximate, more proximate to the caliphate than it was. that said, it seems to me america is measure bring less safe than it was 15 years ago. for a number of reasons. putin. threatening the baltic states, which are nato members. china is extremely aggressive in the south china sea which could be a flashpoint at any point. north korea launches a missile that if it can't yet it will some day soon be able to chicago. and iran is another regime we can't read and right to be
worried about. so the world is more ominous. >> we asked you about questions for the panel on this particular subject, are we safe or not, and we got this on facebook from paul puskuldjian. fascinating. i was in the world financial center for the bombing in 1993 and then again in the world financial center for the attacks on 9/11. the harsh reality is that since 1993, not much has changed. juan, how do you answer paul? >> i think a lot has changed. some of the obvious things are the creation of the department of homeland security. just heard chris' interview with secretary jeh johnson. homeland security, i think, is now the third largest agency in government. trillions spent to harden targets. i think all of us have gone through airports to know that experience. but what i think paul is talking about, chris, is something that's reflected in the polls that 40 million americans think at this moment terrorists have more ability, more likely to attack us now than back in 2001.
you see this in our politics. lots of politicians appealing to fear and anxiety in their thinking. this is particularly true of republicans. higher percentage of republicans, over half, think there is more of a chance of attack. only a third of independents and democrats. i would just point out again to paul, we have the patriot act. the government has the ability to look at e-mail messages, financial transactions. we have troops stationed. we've degraded al qaeda, all these things in terms of the mass kind of attack you experienced either 93 or 2001. i think there's less a chance. what you heard a few moments ago from george will is absolutely true. that in terms of the loan wolf attack or in terms of global political strategies coming in terms of a way of threat of putin and china, yes, there is some reason to have some sleepless nights. >> well, i want to turn to that subject, particularly putin and the threat, and not necessarily the threat of terror but a different threat, and that is
the threat of russian hacking of our american political system, both the democratic campaign organizations and apparently state electoral situations in at least two states, illinois and washington. how seriously did they take this, that putin could be trying to disrupt our elections and what do you think putin is up to? >> i think they take it quite sere slain i think that's why you wait before this investigation is complete before they say it's russia. they want to make sure the evidence is complete and they have that all in hand. in terms of what they do, though, this is just such a complicated issue dealing with russia was a major tool is sanctions. you could levy sanctions on russia and trying to partner with russia in syria. the question of what russia is trying to do, though, here, i think, is fairly obvious. they're trying to create some sort of uncertainty in this election, in the process, and
then ultimately in the results. which if you -- >> to what end, though? >> i don't know what end. i think the idea of creating chaos in american democracy might be the end. because if you really think about this idea, no matter what happens in our electoral campaigns, we generally are confident that the outcome was accurate and correct, and if they can create some uncertainty just around the process and create just nervousness in the american population, maybe that is just their end. >> i want to pick up on that with you, lisa, because the russians don't actually have to disrupt our elections if they just create doubt about the outcome, about the reliability, the vote count. they kind of achieved their goal, haven't they? >> absolutely, and i think this is just russia attempting to flex the power and the muscles in regard to cyber warfare and asacks. secretary johnson said he doesn't believe that russia
could affect the outcome of the election because it's so vast. that being said, russia has been hacking eastern european banks prior to 9/11. germany recently accused russia of hacking parliament and chancellor merkel's website. further russia was being accused of the first electical failure in western ukraine, knocking out electricity for 80,000 ukrainians. so it wouldn't be surprising if russia, you know, potentially tries to meddle with u.s. relations. also russia is a master of subversion and putin was a kgb analyst which he knows all too well. >> in ukraine in 2015, in fact, there was an attempt to disrupt the electoral website just before a political election. this would be right out of the kremlin playbook. >> absolutely. and i think it's quite right that what they want to say is, we have our problems in russia,
but at least we have orderly elections. so orderly that we know the outcome before they have the election. having said that, there is something wrong with our systems that supposedly are our rivals. to demoralize the united states, that is to get people to think that they have a government that's smau tainted, legitimacy compromised in the election inadequacies is a benefit of the diminution of american power. >> it's interesting because putin believed that the united states and hillary clinton helped against him. do you think this is a pay back to the united states and clinton? >> i don't know. i don't know whether we did that. i hope we did that. he's an extremely dangerous man. i don't think mr. putin needs motive to be hostile to -- >> you were nodding your head. >> i remember so clearly in the early days of the obama administration and medvedev went and there was a real effort to
bolster him, make him appear as more of a western-leaning figure hoping in russia the population would want that. that's proven to not be true and for another power center in russia. >> all right. panel, we have to take a break. we'll see you later. up next, hillary clinton and donald trump engage on national security. and we'll continue the debate with two top supporters. plus, what do you think? who would make a better commander in chief and why? let me know on facebook or twitter on fox news sunday and use the #fns.
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lost their lives in the service of others. your families love and miss you. today we honor your memory and your life and the lives who all were lost that day. >> observances continue at ground zero in new york city on this 15th anniversary of 9/11. as family members read the names of the almost 3,000 people who were killed in 4 separate attacks. joining me now to discuss the new focus on national security in the presidential campaign, former speaker newt gingrich, one of trump's top advisers, and
clinton advocate, xavier becerra. gentlemen, welcome back to "fox news sunday." >> thank you. >> i want to get to remarks that clinton made at a fundraiser in new york city on friday night. here she is. >> to be grossly generalistic, you can put half of trump's supporters into what i call the basket of deplorables. right? the racist, sexist, homophobic, xenphobic, islamophobic, you name it. >> she says that half -- half -- of trump supporters are quote, not america. your reaction? she is talking, let me just say, millions of people. >> she said she was generalizing, but since then she has also said she regrets that comment about half. there are some -- i don't think
anyone denies that there are people there who are deplorable. the white supremacists, the david dukes of the world who are supporting donald trump, and the great thing, i think, is that it's clear that there is at least one adult in this race who is willing to say, i regret a remark i've made. bottom line is, we've never had a president, chris, who would govern taking a position of hate and anger. i don't think any of us, i the son of immigrants, watching someone attack immigrants, or women watching a candidate who has said deplorable things about women, i don't think what we want is someone who gets into office based on advocating, campaigning and then governing based on anger and hate. >> speaker gingrich, as the congressman mentioned, hillary clinton released a statement yesterday trying to clean this up. she says this. last night i was, quote, grossly generalistic, and that's never a good idea. i regret saying "half."
that was wrong. does that make it any better? >> no, hillary is falling apart. she comes out of a terrible national security debate. where everybody -- she lost so badly that the left had to attack matt lauer because they couldn't believe she did that badly. they then said isis wants trump to win. and then this statement. rodney got hammered for talking about 47% are dependent upon government. she just made a statement in which she lumped together millions of americans -- she can go back and try to clean tup. those i think a deliberate statement on her part. she wants to pick a fight. fine. let's get a sheriff clarke in milwaukee who is for trump, he can debate her on racism. let's get ben carson, he can debate her on racism. the left has for many years used vicious language to block serious discussion of their policy failures in the inner city. this is more of the same. >> congressman becerra, just
looking at the record, she's made this comment. not necessarily said half but talked about trump supporters being this basket of deplorables. it's a line she used repeatedly. >> david duke. he's deplorable. the right supremacists who will go out and say they are supporting donald trump. they're deplorable. the people who agree that anyone based on their religion should not be allowed to come to this country, they're deplorable. i think what she is saying, a lot of us -- and my father couldn't walk into a restaurant when he was a young man because of the signs that said no dogs or mexicans allowed. he was a u.s. citizen. he's not a hater, though, of this country. he loves this country. what we have to understand is that we should not have people who get elected to office based on campaigning on anger and hate. and, newt, accept the fact that she said i regret those remarks. at least she's willing to say that. donald trump can't acknowledge his mistakes. >> let me say directly, donald trump has repeatedly, explicitly repudiated david duke. that's a fact.
donald trump has issued statement after statement. he has been on television saying it. so this idea that donald trump somehow is secretly courting people, that's wrong. trump goes to a black church in detroit to talk about the failure of democratic party politics policies in the inner city. let's have a debate about the failure of the democratic party in the inner city which, of course, leads to them yelling "racist" because if they can't smear trump, they'll lose a lot of the votes. >> all right. gentlemen, i'm going to move on to another subject. >> racists. let's say he regrets that remark. >> they can keep talking, i will talk to you folks. let's turn to trump and his running-mate and the their continued support for russian president vladimir putin. here they are. >> it's a very different system and i don't happen to like the system, but certainly in that system, he's been a leader far more than our president has been a leader. >> i think it's inarguable that vladimir putin has been a stronger leader in his country than barack obama has been in this country. >> mr. speaker, we're talking
about someone who runs in putin a repressive regime, who kills his opponents, who invades other countries, and he's more of a leader? >> more effective. >> no, he said more of a leader. >> achieving his goals. let's go back to george w. bush who looked in putin's eyes. >> he said he's been a leader far more than our president has been a leader, and mike pence said putin has been a strong leader in their country. >> let's go back to george w. bush. let's go back to hillary who actually got a button out of a hot tub. painted the wrong word on it for reset. she painted overcharge and the interpreter was wrong. that was her opening. let's go to this week where secretary kerry trying to work out a deal in syria with the russians. >> you can't be comfortable with this -- i think that putin is a fact.
>> i think that put season a fact. i don't think our effort to say bad things -- i mean, it's been pathetic. there was a red line on syria, didn't work. there was a red line on crimea, didn't work. at what point do we recognize that this guy exists and calling him names may not be the best strategy we have? >> let me bring you into this, congressman becerra. trump went on the rt to praise putin and to criticize american media. here he is. >> tremendous dishonesty with the media, not all of it. but tremendous dishonesty. >> congressman, your reaction? >> how could you not feel uncomfortable with a candidate for president praising putin at the same time that he had admonishes our generals, criticizes our own troops and he shames the families of american soldiers? he's running for president of the united states, not president
of russia, and to me it's a sign of how he campaigns and why. so much of what he does is deplorable. he seems to be kowtowing more to putin than americans to support him. >> let me reframe this for a second. donald trump went on "larry king." now, i don't think larry is king is an arm of russian propaganda. >> we understand he appears on rt. >> larry king show. it's an icon of american talk for 60 years? i think if larry king called up, oh my god, this would help the russians. you're an old friend. of course i'll do your show. >> you don't think they publicize anything you want. >> allows larry king to be on it and did larry king. >> suits the republican. i mean, the -- >> i want to move on to another subject. hillary clinton had yet another
explanation this week for her mishandling of classified information on her private e-mail system. here is her latest defense and what fbi director comey had to say last july. >> classified material has a header which says, top secret, secret, confidential. none of the e-mails sent or received by me had such a header. >> even if information is not marked classified in an e-mail, participants who know or should know that the subject matter is classify reasonable doubt still obligated to protect it. >> congressman, that's the fbi director saying it doesn't matter if it's marked classified or not, whether there's a header or not. classified is classified. >> so you want to be careful with it. and i believe the secretary has said numerous times that she regrets that she used a private server. >> then why was she talking about the header? >> because people were trying to make the case that she should be prosecuted for having used the
private server -- >> we already know she's not going to be prosecuted, so she was defending her -- >> and the reason she is not prosecuted, chris, the fbi found she didn't intentionally disclosed any classified information. >> would you agree the header, and we just talked about this with secretary johnson, doesn't matter? >> i, too, have reviewed classified information. classified information typically has a very bold and obvious header, that says classified or top secret. what she is saying is that the documents she may have passed along through the e-mails did not contain those bold printed words. and the -- >> congressman, i -- >> director comey agrees there was not information that boldly -- >> no. he did not say that. he said that she did not criminal intent. this -- i want to bring this up to you. this is the classified nondisclosure agreement that secretary clinton signed just as
she became secretary of state in january of 2009. here's what it says. classified information is marked or unmarked classified information, including oral communications, i understand and accept that by being granted access to classified information special confidence and trust shall be placed in me by the united states government. congressman becerra, it's clear the marking, the header doesn't matter. it's the content that matters. >> if it's classified, it would have that marking on it. i don't believe there is any evidence that shows that secretary clinton intended to disclose any classified information. but hey, as she has said, she understands it was a mistake to use a private server. as colin powell has also said there are ways you use your e-mails that could become problematic and that's why you -- >> i'm sorry. speaker, i'm going to bring you
in for one last subject and that is because trump's comments this week about u.s. generals and clinton's response. here it is. >> under the leadership of barack obama and hillary clinton, the generals have been reduced to rubble. they have been reduced to a point where it's embarrassing for our country. >> what would ronald reagan say about a republican nominee who attacks america's generals and heaps praise on russia's president? >> speaker gingrich, the country's generals are an embarrassment? in addition you seemed to say in that candidate forum he could replace them as you well know, i suspect as we all know here, yes, he could replace the chairman of the joint chiefs but not generals up and down the line. there's a system for that. he doesn't seem to understand that. >> let me say, i suspect he's reflecting the views of general flynn and the 50-plus analysts at cent-com who have said they
were forced and threatened in order to give false reports about isis. i think that there is a very severe problem in the degree to which the obama administration has politicized the system inside the defense department and you saw that with the recent memo for the secretary of defense on how to handle speaker ryan, which is an extraordinarily manipulative document. i think there is a reflection among many retired generals and admirals that the administration's influence is negative and destructive and i'm -- >> does that mean the generals are an embarrassment? >> i'm very surprised that the centcom scandal in which a general officer was coercing his subordinates into putting in false reports, has not become a larger national scandal. >> i would love to continue this conversation with you both and we will. thank you both. thank you for your time today. >> thank you, chris. when we come back, trump
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what i do learn is our leadership, barack obama, did not follow what our experts and our truly when they call it intelligence, it's there for a reason, what our experts said to do. >> i think what he said was totally inappropriate and undisciplined. i would never comment on any aspect of an intelligence briefing that i received. >> donald trump giving a controversial look inside his intelligence briefings, and hillary clinton calling him out for that. and we're back now with the panel. so much material, so little time to go over it. let's start again with clinton's remark to a big fundraiser in new york on friday. here she is.
>> to be just grossly generalistic, you can put half of trump's supporters into what i call the basket of right? the racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, islamophobic, you name it. george, the clinton camp i think it's fair to say has been struggling all weekend to clean this up. they say she was referring to people who attend the rallies, not to the millions of people who have voted -- i see you shaking your head already -- who have voted for him. how damaging is this? >> it's damaging for the following reasons. first of all, every young writer is told in his career, when you say something that really sounds fun, like a basket of deplorables, when in doubt, take it out because it's probably gone too far.
beyond that, peter hart, a very talented, vastly experienced democratic consultant in this town says the following. go back to every election since the second world war starting with truman and dewey and every election except the nixon election, the most likable candidate wins. take all your metrics, all your algorithms. likeability is what decides this thing. now, the clinton campaign's problem from the start is the country has decided that clinton is not honest and trustworthy, and it's not easy to change that. but maybe they could make her not honest or trustworthy, but likeable. so she goes to this event and she does something that's condescension. it's like president obama talking about the people bitterly clinging to their guns and religion. or, 47% of americans are takers not makers. >> mitt romney. >> mitt romney. the problem is cultural in this country, not just economic. that is, people don't feel just left behind. they feel looked down upon,
despised by their elites. that's much more volatile than an economic grievance. >> juan, i want to ask you about this because a lot of people are comparing this with mitt romney and a big fundraiser in florida, with a lot of rich people, saying 47% of americans just want handouts. is this that bad? >> no, i don't think so at all. i think mitt romney made a mistake. i mean, if you just want to look at the facts of it. in this case i think what clinton has done two weeks before the first debate, chris, is i think she sharpened the focus on who trump is and people who choose to associate with trump. i mean, you have got to realize, when you think about it, trump is not your normal conservative. he's not your normal republican. >> but to say that half of his supporters -- >> she was generalizing, but i think the point that will be taken away from this -- the republican point is the one about condescension, looking down from the elitist point of view, but i think for most voter it is point will be, hmm, trump is trying to mainstream a
lot of fringe groups. the birthers, racist. i mean, you look at the poll numbers. i think it's like 35% of americans think trump is a racist and about 56% think that he has negative attitudes toward women, immigrants and minorities and for them to say that they're a group of people who associate with trump who have deplorable views i don't think is that shocking. i think the question is, how do they take hillary clinton? hillary clinton's democratic supporters aren't turned off by this at all. the question is about independents and i think independent-minded republican, college-educated women. how will they resnakt. >> lisa, trump had his own problems as i discussed before. he continues to praise vladimir putin. he said that america's generals have been reduced to rubble and are an embarrassment. he talked about his confidential intelligence briefings. he's getting as a presidential candidate s. that helping him in his trying to get past the
threshold as a potential commander in chief? >> no, it doesn't f. you look at the issue, especially on september 11th, taking the fight to essentially every poll, but yes, there is a narrative that hurricane is poll but, yes, there is a narrative that hillary clinton trying to drive about donald trump. it does play into that narrative that hillary clinton is driving. but that being said, hillary clinton has to be able to also articulate and make that argument effectively. experience
>> and to that point, let e's p up some poll, because for all of the trump's supposed problems the polls continue to close. trump was down more than four points in florida a couple of weeks ago, and now he is tied. t in ohio, he has moved are from down five to down one. and in pennsylvania, that is narrowed from the nine-point gap clinton advantage to six points. so how worried are the democrats that for all of the trump's problems that the race is close and getting closer? >>leal with, two basic lines of thinking from the democrats, and one is how can this race possibly be this close given that trump has insulted numerous groups of american, and said things like praising pew tipp and criticizing the generals that would disqualify most presidential candidates and on the other hand, you will hear the democrats who looked at 2012 where obama in the end won by a large margin and the polls looked similar. they are going back to clinton
ground game which is strong in these states and in a close race, you have to give her the edge given what she has on the stro strong. >> and tell us what you feel about trump's race tightening with clinton? >> well, she has a likability problem that she cant not solve. this could change quickly. and when ronald reagan went to cleveland for one debate, they were essentially tied in the pollings, and post debate, it was a landslide. so there could be a move in this electorate which makes the first e date -- debate all of that more important. >> and if you were to suggest that reagan, not reagan, trump, if they could pass that threshold of his debate, they could pass that shift. >> yes, if either candidate does anything to change the
deplorables one way or another. >> you agree it is that much up for grabs? >> well, it is 20%, and the undecideds are higher, and if you look at the unfarable ratings they don't like clinton or trump. and media plays a role, because they want a horse race and that is why there was criticism on matt lauer and at lot of attention, chris wallace -- >> it was not a debate, but interview. last word [ laughter ] >> and hurricane has vulnerabilities in the way she ha handled the private e-mail service, and the clinton foundation, and the fail of the russia reset and the uranium one deal that has been in question, and bill clinton giving speeches in russia and getting a personal thank you call from putin. >> lots to cover, and so much material and so little time. thank you, panel. we will see you next sunday.
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trying to pile up victories on the field. here's our power player of the week. >> at the end of the day, if you don't win football games, people are not going to want to listen to what you say, so football is most important and we have to win on the field, but when you do thatk it opens door for impact to happen beyond football. >> and kirk cousins is quarterback of the washington redskins and he is hoping to turn the victories on the field into visibility for a cause he has been backing for years. he was a teenager when a man named gary hagin came to his church. >> i remember at that moment as a 17-year-old saying that if god blesses me to have the pfinance to make a difference that is an organization and man i want to get behind. >> he is talking about the international justice mission that over the last 20 years has rescued 28,000 people from childis ex trafficking around the world. kids like joshua who is in
forced labor in ghana, and elsa a survivor of sex trafficking in the philippines. ijm puts lawyers an investigators into the field to push the local law enforcement to bust the rings. they have secured more than 1,000 convictions which brings us back to kirk cousins. >> you like that? you like that! >> after leading the redskins to the biggest comeback last year, the usually mild-mannered quarterback had this outburst that caught on, and t-shirt sales brought in $50,000 and rally towels for the playoff game raised another $30,000 that all went to ijm. >> i am a big believer in the cult that says set yourself on fire and people will come for miles to watch you burn. so when you live and play with passion, people want to see that. >> but as cousins knows the platform depends on winning. is that a lot of pressure?
>> i played the senior year of high school without any scholarship offers and had to prove myself to college recruiters and this is pressure. last year playing in my fourth year knowing that it is a make-or-break opportunity knowing it is pressure, and while there is pressure, it is nothing new. >> ad adding to the pressure, the redskins and cousins could not agree to a long-term contract so he is playing under the contract tag, one year for $20 million. cow since wants to keep playing and supporting ijm. >> god wired me to want to impact people, and so i see it as a great impact to do that. it is a challenge everyday and kit feel like a responsibility and weight at times, but what an honor and privilege and i pray every day that the lord will help me to steward it well. >> cousins and the redskins start monday night when they take on the pittsburgh steelers, and if you would like to learn more about ijm, please visit our
website foxnewssunday.com. that is it for theday, and have a great week. we will see you next week for "fox news sunday." high drama on the somber september 11th as hurricane falls ill and has to leave a 9/11 memorial service. tonight, renewed concerns about her health. >> are you feeling better? >> yes. >> as the nation pauses to reremember the attacks 15 years ago today that changed the world. >> we will never forget the nearly 3,000 beautiful lives taken from us so cruelly. >> the candidates are off of the campaign trail, but fallout continues from donald trump's comments about