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both candidates pounding the pavement in the southeast after a fiery first debate in long island. as trump gears up to speak in miami's little havana. we have live fox team coverage. jennifer griffin is standing by but we start with john roberts who is live at the scene of last night's debates. >> an afternoon in the sunshine state and an evening as well for donald trump. he has a fundraiser after that, and then going up the coast to melbourne, florida trump trying to capitalize. the campaign pretty happy with the performance he put in last night. privately they thought there was missed opportunities on trump's part. that he was too quick to take
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the bait that hillary dangled in front of his nose, and complaints that the moderator was tougher on trump than hillary clinton. >> never asked a single question about the clinton foundation. never a single question about the fact that she had a server. it was disaopponentippointing t was no questions about libya or benghazi. four americans fell at a state department facility. >> governor pence is next up on the debate schedule. he is meeting today with a fellow who is playing senator tim kaine, governor scott walker of wisconsin. >> somehow i feel like that debate will be a little different than the one we saw last night. we'll be tuned in. by the way though, apparently trump says now in retrospect he
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thinks he could have been a little harder? >> yeah, he said maybe next time around he will hit her harder. there was a moment last night right at the end where donald trump was really thinking about bringing out the hammer in response to hillary clinton bringing up some of the past things he said about women. here is how he explained about what he was about to go, and he didn't. >> when he hit me at the end with the comments about women, i was going to hit her about her husband's women. i didn't feel comfortable doing it. i county like doing it with chelsea in the room. >> so donald trump now saying the next time they meet in st. louis maybe he will be tougher on her, but that could be a little difficult.
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a town hall where questions will be asked about the numbers nap might have to be saved for the third debate when chris wallace is the moderator. >> you're powering through with remarkable focus. >> i'm just trying to keep up with trump. >> okay, hillary clinton meanwhile campaigning in north carolina holding a rally in raleigh. polls in the battleground state tightened in recent weeks. she in tanger of winning a state that president obama won in 2008. >> it is very loud here, hillary clinton is just finishing up here speech here. we're noticing this morning that
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her campaign has an extra little jump in their step. they're feeling very good about the debate last night, and the candidate came back to talk to reporters at the back of the plane, as soon as she got on the plane, here is what she said. >> anyone without a microphone is not having a good night. >> trump said his microphone was off last night. what we're hearing now is she is going on the attack talking about donald trump's taxes and the fact that she boxed him in last night to admit that he had not paid taxes and she just said a moment ago behind me if he says it's smart not to pay taxes, what does that mean for the rest of us and that got a lot of cheers from the students here in the audience. it's clear that hillary clinton is making a play for the
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millennial vote. she has not had, according to poles, a very energized base. she will be campaigning with bernie sanders tomorrow and we will be hearing about $15 minimum became a minimum wage and other things that mil lelians care about. >> her campaign seems very confident today. >> and as she walked up the stairs to the plane, the pool reporter shouted out "do you think donald trump will show up for the next two debates"? and she put her arms up like saying she didn't know. they don't know if he will show up for the next two debates. they felt his body language
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showed he had become a little unhinged, and that was according to her campaign. back to you, shannon. >> live with the campaign in raleigh, thank you. fox news alert now in miami, florida why donald trump is holding a round table event. there is a little havana population. he is talking about how well he is doing in pest debate polls. >> we have a few guest speakers today to discuss some of the issues facing our community. first is roberto gonzalez. >> mr. soon to be president. >> how are you? >> i'm fine, sir. it's an honor to be in front of you today. in 1776 a group of great men made a decision and that decision was to break away from a government that was oppressing
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them. their freedom, their opportunity, and in doing so, they created what is now the greatest country in the world. the united states of america. which i know you're going to make greater. now just like those men, in 1989 my parents made a very similar decision. see they came to this country and what they found was something like they could never imagine. because they come from guatemala. now for those that don't know, guatemala, at that time was a horrible place to be. why? they had corrupt politicians, criminal politicians. that committed crimes, but they didn't get indicted, they got reelected. and you know what happens when you elect criminals?
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it corrodes the system from within. and the people who are affected are the people in the middle and the bottom. like my parents. so they fled, they came to this country with $100, a 2-year-old baby, and hard work. they worked hard. they instilled that hard workmenalty in me, and it's because of the opportunities i had in this country that i got to where i am today. you see, mr. soon-to-be-president, i am an american. i am just as american as george washington. i'm just as american as benjamin frankly. i'm just as american as john adams. because i love this country. and i love the principals that have built this country.
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i'm the first from my family to go to college because of of the beautiful things this country granted to me. and then i went to law school, with a little convincing from my mentor, and i graduated law school. i got out and i got a great job. but i wanted a p happiness. so i left that great job, and i started my own business. i started my own law firm with my partner juan perez, and just four months in, we moved to a bigger office. that would not be possible in any other country in the world. >> we were hoping to hear from donald trump. we may go back to that, but getting a very friendly question from someone there referring to him as the next president of the united states. it is parent there in the sunshine state and we will keep
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tabs on those. we have larry o connor, host of "mornings on the mall." gentleman, great to have you both. >> great to be here, thank you. >> let's talk about first, i want to play a soundbyte where trump got some applause. he offered a deal to mrs. clinton, let's thereon that. >> i will release my tax returns against my lawyer's wishes when she releases her 33,000 e-mails that have been deleted. once she releases them, i will release my tax returns and that's against my lawyers, they say don't do it. >> larry, that was one of the only times he brought up the
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e-mails tonight. not to be talking about that particular topic more? >> yeah, thank god he brought it up, by the way, it's very important to realize that he was pivoting on a question about his tax returns. another example of spending a lot of time last night on topics that don't matter to the american people. i don't care about the tax return of donald trump, i care about the tax return of every day americans. i wish he had pivoted some ridiculous nonsense questions that lester holt was throwing at him. you're right, missed opportunities. >> you're going to talk more in another segment about lester holt and if there was media bias there or not. when she talks about his tax returns, that resonates with a lot of people. >> democrats feel good today. she did a good job last night.
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she was substantive, comfortable, she laughed a few times which is not something you always see her do. we felt it was a good performance for her. on the tax issue, i was surprised how donald trump handled it. he said my lawyers said don't release my tax returns. it sounded like he has something to hide and he has gotten in trouble. i thought it was a huge mistake in the debate last night, and i think he was a little bit of a rookie last night, we'll see how it goes in the next two debates. okay, talking about money, who laid out the better plan for taxes and jobs? we'll break it down with charles payne. >> i call it trumped up trickle down. that's now how we grow the economy.
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jobs, the economy, and your tax dollars were may job topics last night. hillary clinton talking about donald trump's tax returns and asking "what is he hiding?" >> maybe he doesn't want you watching tonight that he has paid nothing in taxes. he had to turn them over one year to get a casino hielicense that means he has paid zero for troops, vets, schools, health --
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>> when you put it that way it doesn't sound too good. we have charles payne here. some people will say he is using legal structures and frame work, maybe an argument for overhauling the tax code anyway, how much does it hurt him? >> when you -- if the number is zero, that might hurt him with some people out there. the last elections were decided on politics -- i have an account, i try to get the lowest rate possible. i don't think it should be 50% of what we make, and i think there is something reasonable that we get -- goods and services particularly services from the public sector. by the same token what i find interesting. laying out an estate tax in the last week, and it goes up to 65% on estates of $500 million or more. people with that kind of the
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money have the where with all to never have to pay that kind of money. it's the small business that is just grinding it out, just starting to make. the person that is the first one that may have gone to college in their family, those folks sawed off at the knees. they have to give half of their money to uncle sam. so an interesting way she indicted her own state tax policy, i think zero will offend some people. >> they also talked about race at one point and the ongoing te tensions in our country. trump talked a little bit about law and order, here is what he said. >> secretary clinton doesn't want to use a couple orders and that's law and order. we need law and order.
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if we don't have it we're not going to have a country. we have a situation where we have our inner cities, african-americans and hispanics living in hell because it's so dangerous. you walk down the street and you get shot. >> this is a topic that has done well for him. he is not doing well with some voters, but does it connect with them? middle america? >> it is different. i think middle america, suburbs, i think it plays well. the idea of creating a police state in those neighborhoods does not work well. when you trip someone of their dignity. if you tell my son every time he walks out of the house he is a suspect first, i will push back on that. first, education. we're in a knowledge century. it has already begun. all americans, we need to be
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focused on this, we're so far behind the chinese and others it's a shame. then we talk about real life stuff, the anxieties we have with each other. the fact that we don't know each other. i spend 10 to 12 hours a day with mostly conservative white folks here, i may go to my niece's birthday party in bronx on a saturday. the difference between what we know about, the inability to connect, and understand that the top ten things you want for your life i want for mine. and if we find a way to put those together, we will be in better shape. we should applaud how far we have come in such a short period of time. >> washington walking in someone else's shoes. if we could all learn how tow do that we would benefit.
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>> who do you think won last night's debate. we have numbers about where voters were going, what they were thinking, and trace gallagher will break down all of that for us. >> plus this -- >> your facts are wrong. we're not perfect people. we aspire to be perfect because we think that's what american people have a right to expect, but you will find us being very forth coming with our strengths. >> what they had to say about the bombing in new york city and where we are protecting america from terror attacks here in the homeland. what's it like to be in good hands? like finding new ways to be taken care of. home, car, life insurance obviously, ohhh... but with added touches you can't get everywhere else, like claim free rewards... or safe driving bonus checks.
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so, who won last night's presidential debate? we want to break down some of the numbers from one of the most unusual political show downs in u.s. history. trace is checking into all of it for us. >> when it comes to who won or lost, opinions are subjective, but it is fascinating to look at the social media trend that gives you a realtime barometer. donald trump had 62% of the conversation compared to hillary clinton's 38%. the top three tweeted moments is saying he has a good temperament, stop and frisk, and trump versus clinton on twitter.
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hillary lead the way for google search interest. the top googled question was is stop and frisk unconstitutional and trump's was did he support the iraq war. >> for 30 years you have been doing it and now you're just starting to think of solutions. >> excuse me -- i will bring back jobs, you can't. >> well, actually, i have thought about this quite a bit. >> how many times do you think in the first 26 minutes of last night's debate that donald trump interrupted hillary clinton? >> i think that he was more controlled in the beginning, so we'll go with 17? >> incorrect, 25 times he
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interrupted hillary clinton. you get one more chance. which country got the most mentions last night. which country got the most mentions, china or mexico? >> china? >> china got the most mentions at 11, mexico got six. finally you may or may not know this, but porn is the most googled subject on the internet all of time. did porn get beat last night by the debate. >> i hate to say this, but i don't think so. i do think tha probably -- >> it did? i have faith in america. >> porn was beat by the debate. >> we need to be more educated about what is going on here. so any time educational civic things are being googled over porn, i'll take it.
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>> we'll try again next time, thank you, trace. numerous states requesting help from homeland security. a lot of people are concerned about the fed stepping in. we'll tell you more about that and the debate moderator lester holt coming under fire. what donald trump is accusing the nbc anchor of doing, next. but first, here is hillary clinton and donald trump. >> i have a feeling by the end of the evening i will be blamed for everything that's ever happened. >> why not? >> yeah, why not?
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time for a quick check of the headlines. a fire is threatening hundreds of homes near san jose. and in iowa, the cedar river is approaching record highs. and outside of the 2009 financial crisis foods are at the highest prices. >> donald trump accused lester holt of leaning to the left and asked him unfair questions. >> back to the question, how do you bring back jobs and american
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manufacturers. >> you're perfectly free to release your taxes during an audit, the birth certificate was produced in 2011, and you continued to question it in 2012, 2013, 2014 so what changed your mind -- >> nobody was pressing it. >> ben, what is your take? a lot of times had it is hard to objectively measure how this works. more follow up questions for trump and more controversial topics. we didn't hear questions about benghazi foundation, or e-mail server. >> i think lester holt in general did a good job. i have to say that i think there is a point to those saying he went after donald trump with tougher questions than the ones put to hillary clinton. the fact is we didn't see hillary have to answer any questions about her policy as it relates to libya, iraq, syria,
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russian reset, the clinton global downatifoundation, the dn with her health, and the handling of classified information. the only question he asked her that was at all tough was simply, mr. trump brought up the subject, what is your response? i think the real issue there though we have to say it is up to trump to bring up the subjects. if donald trump doesn't do it, the other candidate needs to make them part of the debate. >> there was so much public pressure on lester holt, saying you better fact check trump, do you think that subconsciously that factors in at all? >> absolutely i think it factors in. i think it was very clear in the
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wake of the experience that matt lauer had with donald trump, they would not continue to talk about the iraqi war position without drilling down on the subject. the fact checking seemed to only go in one direction. hillary clinton said the reason we had a financial crisis is because we had tax cuts for the wealthy, but lester holt wasn't there saying do you really believe it's because we cut taxes on the wealthy and that caused the financial crisis? >> so there are endless analysis. there are some polls that will give us an indication of how the debate did or didn't impact how voters feel out there. there was missed opportunities? ways to do things differently? >> absolutely. i think that for when you're analyzing who wins and loses
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debates, in this case i would say this is a debate that donald trump lost more than hillary won. she played it very safe. she was very careful in her approach, and she was going through a born litany of policy proposals. i think he could have taken many opportunities to slam hillary clinton. i think particularly on cyber security question where he could have gone after her for a number of questions she. and i think the lesson he needs to take from it is the one he seems to be taking from today. he ought to be more aggressive and hit her harder in the future. >> we shall, great to see you always, thank you for being with us. >> donald trump giving hillary clinton a c plus for last night's performance saying she wasn't the toughest person he has faced in a debate. >> i think ted cruz was tough. i think that marco was actually
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very tough. he had a break down, a little break down once with me, but he was a good debater. marco is a very good debater. i thought they were very tough, and she'll be duff. i think she'll be tough. i thought she was very bad in the first half. >> ted cruz, a fierce critic in the primaries returning the love saying "trump had his strongest debate performance of the election cycle." if clinton is elected we know we will have a liberal justice named to justice scalia's seat. thee of the nation's top national security officials in the hot seat today here on capitol hill, their testimony comes just a week after a tax in new jersey, new york, and
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minnesota. >> did they acknowledge any mistakes after the man was arrested for planting the bombs. >> prior to the bombings, raha i rahami's father thought he was a terrorist. he said the fbi will see if anything could have been done definitely, and this this is the kind of case that worries him the most. the other threats, the fbi director discussed is isis abroad. >> listen to this -- >> the caliphate will be crushed. and through that will come hundreds and hundreds of very dangerous people. they will not all die on the
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battlefield. >> that, of course, only feeds into the fear that some of those terrorists could disguise themselves as refugees and make their way here to the united states. >> what about this that we're hearing, about the threat of election related hacks, did that come up at all today? >> yes, jeh johnson said 18 states have asked for help securitying their systems from cyber attacks. today's secretary johnson said there have been efforts to hack into several state election agencies, some have been successful, some have not. as for what country or who might be behind it, secretary johnson would not speculate, but scary stuff ahead of the election. >> yeah, and interesting. i was reading about two college professors that have been able
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hillary clinton and donald trump trying to rally support in big important swing states after last night's presidential debate. they're battling over white educated voters in the suburbs. so did last night's show down help either of them really? we'll speak about that with a u.s. senator and a editor at "wall street journal." >> okay, we want to take you back to south florida. donald trump is visiting with folks at one of the most famous
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well known cuban restaurants. it looks like they're taking wi pictures. a lot of people wanting to take successf selfies and pictures with him. there is a lot of great food and great people down there and it looks like he is trying to maximize his time with both of them. they talked about some of the specific issues latinos are fating in this country. but that is a key part of the voting balance down there in florida. a swing state where that race has tightened up in recent weeks. see, having a little spit, getting caffeinated. that stuff is great and it will power him through another afternoon of campaigning. we'll keep an eye on that, if he
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has anything to say we'll let you know. >> you heard what the political analyst had to say about last night's debate. what about the voters. jeff locke is a man on the mission, he is letting us know how people are reacting in the heartland. >> in our own restaurant, i'll tell you the overarching theme that i have seen is that both sides are kind of disappointed in the performance of their candidates. thereon what one voter told us. >> i think clinton should not have come out so aggressive attacking trump. she should have stayed with her points a little more. i don't think she -- i don't think she looked good that way.
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i'm more of a clinton supporter, but i didn't like what i saw. >> she didn't do a great job, but i could not vote for trump. >> trump supporters also disappointing. they felt he missed some opportunities he could have been better. >> hillary clinton's camp talking about last night, is it because voters, like the last one you showed, perhaps not swayed? >> yeah, i think that was the thing. the voters that support him are still in his corner this morning. the ones for hillary clinton still in her corner. the ones on the fence i have a sense were not swayed and nobody in another camp switched over. >> i think in the end, hillary clinton won overall.
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she got to donald trump, unnerving him. she got to him. >> we'll see if that theme continues in debate number two. for now this one is in the books, and people are still thinking. >> what is for lunch by the way, jeff, will you have time? >> we had breakfast, we had lunch, if they stay open, we'll have diner, that's pete right there, he runs the place. a very kind guy and good cook. >> when you have a tv true moving in for the day, you can just eat all of your meals and hang out. >> thank you for taking us to the people. >> president obama and house speaker paul ryan weighing in on the debates, mr. obama today joined ryan seacrest on his show today praised hillary clinton.
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>> anyone that watched got sharply contrasting visions about where we should take the country. i'm admittedly biassed. i worked with hillary, i know her, she is well prepared. >> speaker ryan stopped short of praising donald trump and gave a more measured assessment. >> i think people met their expectations, and i think hillary gave a very polished well rehearsed status quo defense, and i think donald trump gave a unique donald trump response to the status quo. i think he gave a spirited argument and i think he passed a number of thresholds that showed for 90 minutes he could go toe to toe with hillary clinton. he refused to comment on any comments that donald trump made saying "he didn't see it."
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a vermont man who spent a week lost at sea is back on dry land. 22-year-old nathan carmen was rescued from a life raft by a passing fralter. he and his mother set off on a fishing trip nine days ago and their boat sank. his mother has not been found. for now she's presumed dead. we're learning new information about a man accused of carrying out a shooting spree that injured nine people yesterday. law enforcement sources say the suspect was wearing a nazi uniform when he was killed during a confrontation with police. more nazi paraphernalia was reportedly found in his home.
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three of the nine victims of the shooting have been released from the hospital. one is still in critical condition. protesters in charlotte, north carolina, demanding the mayor and the police chief resign over the shooting death of keith lamont scott. more than 100 protesters jammed into city council chambers demonstrate frustrations with police. both the mayor and police chief have faced criticism. police say scott was armed when he was shot. his family is disputing the claim. a deadly explosion caused the death of a firefighter. the blast shook the whole neighborhood injuring six people. police say the home was under investigation as a possible drug factory. fire battalion chief michael
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fahey, a 17-year veteran was killed by debris from the blast. he was the father of three children. on the streets of los angeles, sounding off about last night's debate. jimmy kimmel's team asking questions, but before the match-up happened. we'll show you some of the best responses. first, here is a little more from trump and clinton. >> for 30 years you've been doing it and now you're just starting to think of solutions. i will bring back jobs. you can't bring back jobs. >> well, actually i have thought about this quite a bit. >> yeah, for 30 years. heartburn relief gummies. they don't taste chalky and work fast. mmmm. incredible. can i try? she doesn't have heartburn. new alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. enjoy the relief. i'm terhe is.at golf. but i'd like to keep being terrible at golf for as long as i can. new patented ensure enlive has hmb plus 20 grams of protein to help rebuild muscle.
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>> get closer? i don't know how it's possible since much of the polls already say it's a neck and neck race. i don't think hillary clinton did herself a lot of favors tonight. i don't think donald trump did a particularly great job either. >> that was actually someone who
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saw the debate. jimmy kim el took to the streets to ask folks what they thought of the debate. the questions were asked before the debate happened. that didn't stop some people from giving some very interesting answers. >> were you surprised when donald trump screamed at hillary clinton liar, liar, pants on fire. >> wasn't that expected? >> was it cute when right after the closing statement they gave each other that cute little kiss, that peck on the lips? >> barely. it shows there's peace between the two parties, but it kind of was fake. >> kind of like the entire debate, which didn't happen. >> i love how committed people are to these answers. again, those were given before the debate ever began. here is what america is clicking on today. scientists say they spoted what may be flumes of water vapor on
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jupiter's europa. and how a roller coaster may help people with kidney stones. thanks for joining us today. now it's time for shep. >> noon on the west coast, 3:00 on the east coast. in spring states on the east where donald trump and hillary clinton are spending the day after the debate. by now you've heard the analysis. what about the people who will actually pick the next president? we'll look at how both candidates did with the crucially important undecided voters and how this election will likely hinge on who shows up on election day. plus this is already having an impact all around the world. why the feds say the biggest threat to national security is certainly not from international terrorists and the greatest danger is already

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