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you will see it live. nice to be with you. melissa: absolutely. i will come back tomorrow. i think you're stuck with me rest of the week. i can't wait to do it. bill: that is the deal. "happening now" starts right now. have a great day, everybody. jenna: fox news alert. we're awaiting remarks from donald trump in chicago as candidates hit two battleground states. both hillary clinton and donald trump declaring victory in the first debate and we're weeks away from election day. welcome to "happening now." i'm jenna lee. jon: two winners, is that possible? jenna: it could be i guess. jon: we'll see. i'm jon scott. police clinton making direct appeal to young voters with powerful ally by her side. as she gets ready for a joint appearance with bernie sanders. you remember him? they will appear in new hampshire. donald trump is delivering remarks to the polish-american congress. then it is off to the suburbs for a private fund-raiser. before holding rallies in iowa
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and wisconsin later today. national correspondent john roberts is live in chicago with the latest. john? reporter: good morning to you. donald trump in northern part of chicago. polish national liance. wrapping up roundtable. speaking to the group in a few minutes. this is important group for him. also an important group for some of the people you would like to follow into the white house. ronald reagan and bush 41. speaking of the bush family, they made no secret of their disdain for donald trump. but late yesterday, a group of 50 bush alumni came forward and said they were going to support donald trump. put up just five of the people. some of the best known who are throwing their weight behind donald trump. former secretary of defense, donald rumsfeld, former white house spokesman ari fleischer, john ashcroft the attorney general, elaine chao, transportation and labor and former governor tommy thompson, the former secretary of agriculture. trump will regain some momentum
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after a debate that had rocky moments for him, focusing his fire last night on hillary clinton suggesting he will be much tougher on her in the next meeting, coming up with the town hall in st. louis. here is what trump said last night. >> for 90 minutes i watched her very carefully, and i was also holding back. i didn't want to do anything to embarass her. but i watched her. she was stuck in the past. for 90 minutes on issue after issue, hillary clinton defended the terrible status quo. reporter: in his speech today to the polish national liance he will talk a lot about law and order and including his plans to bring backstop and frisk, what worked in new york city for number of years could work very well in city like chicago that is gripped by terrible violence. here is what trump said about
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stop-and-frisk. >> stop-and-frisk in chicago where it is going crazy could save thousands of lives just like it saved thousands of lives in new york city under mayor giuliani. overwhelmingly this will save african-american and hispanic lives. reporter: mayor giuliani speaking out today against a couple of statements that were made in the debate on monday night about stop-and-frisk where hillary clinton said it didn't work. the debate moderator lester holt said it was unconstitutional. giuliani saying in mrs. clinton's case usual misrepresenting she does when she doesn't know what she is talking about. as for mr. holt, if a moderator interferes, he should do homework and pretend to know the law. mr. holt and nbc can not overrule the supreme court. trump goes to iowa a state where
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he leads hillary clinton by five points, then to the waukesha, wisconsin, a state where he trails hillary clinton for five points. the battle for the midwest is on. jon: we have a legal panel coming about the legality of stop-and-frisk. that will be interesting. john roberts in chicago. thanks. jenna: speaking of the debate donald trump said at monday's big event he is the change agent in this election and a vote for hillary clinton is vote for business as usual. >> hillary, i just ask you this. you've been doing this for 30 years. why are you just thinking about these solutions right now? for 30 years you've been doing it, and now you're just starting to think of solutions. excuse me, i will bring back jobs. you can't bring back jobs. >> well, actually, i have thought about this quite a bit. >> for 30 years. jenna: meantime president obama countering mr. trump's arguments saying clinton's experience is an asset. >> look, the, i think hillary did a great job and again, and
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again, i have been frustrated by the degree to which, partly just because she has been around a long time, people just do not give her credit, and part of it may be because she is woman. we have not elected a woman president before. but here is somebody who, as i said at the convention is as qualified as anybody whoever run for this office and she has been on the right side of the issues that we care about and we need to support her and that begins, by the way, making sure that everybody is registered and everybody is voting. the stakes in this election are so high. jenna: let's bring in charlie hurt, columnist for "washington times," and melinda hennenberger, opinion writer for "usa today." the reason we're looking at this topic, for each candidate their past plays a role in their campaign and we can see that in a few days after the debate. just curious, melinda, what do
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you think of the president's explanation or defense of hillary clinton, she is taken for granted because she has been around too long and perhaps because she is a woman? >> well, definitely gender plays a role. i mean the reaction to her and to his remarks about her, i mean that's certainly part of the conversation, you but i do think that it's, you know, every, after you have eight years of one party in the white house, you see voters think, well, what else you got? you know, there is a desire for change. we have seen that again and again as part of the cycle. so i think that she does have to show that she will do things that move the ball. that will be different from the last eight years but at same time she argues to her supporters, we'll continue the obama legacy. that he is telling people it will be an insult to him, for example, if the african-american
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community doesn't come out and voter her. jenna: charlie, do you think this is the fight that donald trump should have with hillary clinton, or at least the argument at this time, considering his past comments and his past actions often become the forefront of conversation for his opponent as well? >> yeah. no i think the argument that look you've been at this for 30 years, you've been around for 30 years, why are you only now coming up with the solutions, that was the best line of the debate. the line from the rally talking about the she is a part of the past, all that is exactly where donald trump needs to stay. it is what his, you know, generated this enormous support for him so far in the republican primary and increasingly in the general election and you know what? you know, jenna, the future is scary. it is always a little bit scary and donald trump is a little bit scary but if he can sort of convince people, i'm not your usual politician but i'm part of
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the future, i, then, list ideas that are appealing to people, and then continue to go back to the part that hillary clinton is represents a third term for barack obama and she has been around for 30 years, 25 years she has been on the national public stage, and so it is kind of hard, that alone sort of disqualifies her in a lot of -- jenna: let me ask you same question for donald trump. the trump campaign obviously doesn't like this issue brought up, for example, about the beauty queen and comments he made about a beauty queen. he is constantly having to defend that. what about trump's past? is it just as much of an issue for him as for clinton? >> the reason he has been able to sort of step away from, a lot of those really atrocious things i said in the past is the fact, the reason he has been on the public stage for so long he has been an entertainer. he has, sales. he has been in real estate. all these other markets that thrive on not being politically
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correct, in being sort of rude and outrageous and dangerous. and it is why i always believed he had a lot more of ability, softer ceiling, he would be able to sort of appeal, he was going to be able to break away from his past better than hillary clinton, simply because he is entering a whole new line of work. hillary clinton is still, her past is still part of this line of work. he can always say, and he has to some effect, yeah i said all these things it was terrible, you know, part of a tv show or whatever. >> no, no. jenna: what do you think about that argument? >> i haven't heard him say anything he ever said or done was terrible. i never heard him apologize for anything. and once more, he still saying outrageous things. jenna: to charlie's point, one could look at it, say okay, he is businessman. he was entertainer. he wasn't a politician. yeah he made mistakes and here and now and future we're concerned about? >> i think that people look at
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him and, i mean, you only have to go on, you know history is prologue. you have to only go on who is this person. what has their life been about. i think that both of these people will be judged on that basis. jenna: we're watching the event. rudy giuliani just stepped to the stage. ' es introducing donald trump. i would love a quick thought, charlie on rudy giuliani's role in the campaign. rudy giuliani, donald trump said during the debate, talking about gender issues and the past, all of this, during the debate, donald trump said i could say some things but i'm not owing to say things, that was the reference to bill clinton's affair. rudy giuliani has been more direct about that. i wonder how effective do you think he is as surrogate for donald trump and saying things trump hasn't? >> melissa is exactly right, donald trump has not necessarily said these things and what he said in the past is outrage just but all surrogates and giuliani
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is one of the best ones out there, who will go directly there and say what the candidate doesn't want to say or doesn't feel comfortable saying. jenna: do you think that is part of the campaign, charlie? what do you think about that conversation coming up, of at all? >> which conversation? jenna: regarding affair and bill clinton? everyone talks about at watercooler, monica lewinsky, when will we see about monica, hear about monica, any of that? will we? is that part of it? >> i think donald trump needs to be very careful about it, he acknowledged when he saw chelsea clinton in the audience he didn't want to go there. he is playing a game when says that you do have to be careful with it. as you point out, jenna, everybody is talking about it anyway. for a lot of young democratic liberal voters come to about all of this stuff, bill clinton perpetrated and hillary clinton helped, cover up and all that kind of stuff, my goodness, these young people, this is archaic.
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this is unbelievable. >> quick final thought from you? >> he is going there. he brings it up all the time. he was tweeting about gennifer flowers around might be inviting her to the debate. he goes there constantly. we'll see if that works but i think, you know, 60% of undecideds are women who are likely voters and i don't see him reaching out to those people very effectively at all. not to mention he is losing non-white voters by 44% in his statements in that regard are not helping him either. so, where he needs to do some work, i don't see him doing that. jenna: we'll see. we'll see what the poll numbers actually look like for some key voting groups a week from now. interesting to see some numbers and what they can or can not tell us. charlie, melinda, great to have you both. we'll see the event in chicago. if we pull up the live picture. we have it of rudy giuliani speaking there. he is often giving opening remarks for donald trump. donald trump we should mention running about an hour behind.
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when he steps to the microphone we'll bring you there jon? jon: fox news alert. the senate is preparing to vote to override president obama's veto of a bill that allows 9/11 families to sue saudi arabia for its involvement in the terror attacks. the white house says it would set a dangerous precedent. lawmakers are hoping they can override his decision. doug mckelway joins us live from capitol hill. how is the vote counting going, doug? reporter: the debate is still going on. we expect the vote at 12 noon today but the senate is most poised at this point to override a presidential veto for the first time in the history of the obama administration. the house set to act later this week. a similar result is expected there. the jasta bill would allow 9/11 families to sue foreign
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governments involved in attacks here in the united states. evolved from growing evidence that saudi arabia government or members of the saudi arabia family mayhave been tangentially involved in the 9/11 attacks but bill made for really strange bedfellows and awkward political estrangements. when was last time you saw liberal democratic senator blumenthal of connecticut vote against anything that president obama has done? he is doing just that when it comes to the jasta bill. >> i deeply respect the president. and the reasons that he has given for vetoing the justice against sponsors of terrorism act but i urge my colleagues to move swiftly and soundly to reverse this veto, so that these families can have their day in court. reporter: the president and
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opponents of the jasta bill believe this set as very brad precedent. that it would hurt sovereign immunity, which is a bedrock of diplomacy. there could be retaliatory measures against u.s. citizens by foreign governments find themselves in predictment used by u.s. soldiers and perhaps u.s. soldiers abroad could be vulnerable as well. the vote set for 12 noon. probably the first override of a presidential veto in the obama administration. back to you. jon: high drama in the capitol building. doug mckelway, thank you. we're keeping an eye on donald trump. he is about to step to the microphone where rudy giuliani is speaking now in chicago. we'll take you there as soon as mr. trump begins his remarks.
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jon: republican presidential nominee donald trump speaking at the polish-american congress gathering in chicago. let's listen. >> been friends of mine so many years. i have many friend been so loyal to me.
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some from poland. some living in poland now but mostly from poland. the polish people are great people, these are great people. if i get elected, believe me we take all of our people. all of our people. but, we do have a very, very special place because polish-americans, what you have done for this country is really incredible. i don't think frankly that people know the great sacrifices that you have gone through, and frank and whole group have done an incredible job. even just coming into this building and seeing how well-organized everything is. how beautiful and clean, how you open it up to the community, frank. i want to congratulate you, and i want to thank you. thank you. [applause] i just, i just met many of your leaders and representatives and your press and i thought i would say a few words. i wrote down a few words about
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poland and my thoughts on poland and, also on what is happening with respect to the polish-americans. i think it will take a second and i will read it off a little bit to you because it is very important. to me it is very important. it is unbelievably important community. i'm honored to be here with the polish-american congress and i pledge to you, a trump administration, will be a true friend to poland, and to all polish-americans. and i have to tell you -- [applause] and i don't think you people will be insulted to say, and if i say, we're going to be a friend to everybody. we're going to friendly to everybody. you know you heard about the "deplorables," right? this is going to be one -- we'll be a friend to everybody. if they don't like me, they end up liking me, all right?
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i will be a friend even if they don't like me. they will end up liking when we produce. because we have politicians that don't produce. it is very simple. poland has been such an incredible friend to america. and since our founding, if you look, it has been one of our great, great relationships. so important. strong ally for freedom. during the cold war poland kept the flame of freedom under communist oppression. it was really, it was a beacon, and poland provided 28,000 troops in total over the years to assist the united states in afghanistan. that is a lot of troops. 2thousand -- 28,000 troops for afghanistan and iraq in hardest fought region. plenty of suffering, plenty much suffering. one of the things i wanted to do is mention -- jon: we are going to continue to monitor donald trump and his remarks there at the
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polish-american congress in chicago. if he makes news during this speech, we will certainly bring you the highlights ahead on "happening now."
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jon: fox news alert. donald trump is continuing at the podium in chicago at the polish-american congress. he just brought up the name of rudy giuliani, who has written an editorial in support of trump's position, the stop-and-frisk law, as it is known in new york was a valuable tool in reducing the number of homicide here. and homicides nationwide obviously are a huge problem. some new information on gun violence just in chicago. in just the last 12 hours, from yesterday through this morning, six people were shot and wounded.
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that city has more than 3200 shooting victims this year! as that controversial tactic known as stop-and-frisk is back in the national conversation. it allows officers to stop people and search them without actually arresting them unless of course police find illegal weaponry or drugs. the practice and the issue of growing inner-city violence came up during monday night's presidential debate. >> stop-and-frisk was ruled unconstitutional in new york because it largely singled out black and hispanic young men. >> no, you're wrong. it went before a judge who was a very against police judge. it was taken away from her. and our mayor, our new mayor, refused to go forward with the case. they would have won on appeal. if you look at it, throughout the country there are many places. >> the argument is form of racial profiling. >> no the argument is, we have to take guns away from these people that have them and are bad people that shouldn't have them.
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jon: so let's get the legal perspective on stop-and-frisk or a terry stop as it is known in many jurisdictions. lis wiehl, fox news legal analyst. bobby ahnchy, criminal defense attorney, former head county prosecutor and county attorney as well. you bring personal experience to this, bob, you used to be an emt in inner cities, some of the worst neighborhoods of newark, new jersey, for instance? >> yeah. i worked professionally as an emt. the amount of violence, what i try to say with people you have to use rule of reasonableness with these things. out on streets you see gang violence happening, it's a lot different feel you have eastern as attorney and people are shot and killed and mothers are whaling and blood all over you. these young men being slaughtered in the prime of their lives because of prime problems plaguing the city. as a prosecutor one of my jobs was to balance these interests in having proper interdiction in order to eradicate crimes so
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people live in safe community which people want to do. having aggressive and yet constitutional law enforcement practices. i think we were able to achieve that with strong intelligence-led policing. sometimes stop-and-frisk. using dashboard of crime where we go in aggressive and working with community groups. so they always understood the context of what we were doings, escalation and de-escalation when the crime problem was abated. stop-and-frisk has valuable law enforcement component to it. but what this judge said unfortunately 90% of the people stopped in the new york did not have contrabands and weapons and we needed to reverse the policies to make stop-and-frisk more tailored to people, artic cuable suspicion under the law. i agree with that. jon: what does the law say when this is allowed? >> can we clear up the constitutionality issue? jon: lester holt, play that clip, lester holt saying it is up constitutional in new york. >> no.
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clear the whole issue up. the terry stop, the stop-and-frisk issue, decided back in 1968 in an 8-1 decision by the supreme court -- jon: overwhelming. >> is constitutional. okay? that is still constitutional. it is still the law of the land as a policy. it is constitutional. it is the way that it is applied that can be unconstitutional. if it has a disparate impact, a disparate impact against racial minorities, racial profiling going on, which is what was found to be happening here in new york by this judge, then the way it is applied can be held to be unconstitutional, right? but not, not the law itself. the terry law, the stop-and-frisk law, has not been found to be unconstitutional as a law. that is the difference. >> what happened here, you have to understand, when terry came out it was saying stop-and-frisk
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is appropriate legal practice. this has been law for 50 years. what happened, some police departments like nypd, had organized stop-and-frisk, not on individual basis. >> correct. >> what this judge said, i read the decision. the judge was not anti-police. she just basically said indirectly having far disparate impact on 90% of the law-abiding citizens in these communities. >> correct. >> i'm not saying -- this is really confused in these debates. >> right. >> she did not say stop-and-frisk is unconstitutional. >> as a principle. >> manner which is being applied. here is what we can do to clear it up. she put a monitor in place. have a pilot program. body cams. >> people watching. >> so we know there is not abuses of this because we can't allow it to be wholesale way to search people. >> correct. jon: reasonable suspicion is a big part of this law. >> you can't, i think something -- you have to have an articulable suspicion something is going on, there is illegal
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activity going on right then and there. it just can't be, i don't like the way the guy looks. has to be something more than just a hunch. there have been cases litigated what that is, artic cuable suspicion a police officer has. jon: new york city mayor, former mayor rudy giuliani, given wide credit for bringing down crime rate in the city along with his police commissioners. he has written an op-ed piece in the "wall street journal" about the legality and intricacies of stop-and-frisk. i would urge viewers to see that. lis weill and bobby ahnchy. jenna. jenna: more leaders remembering a political legend as they pay tribute to prime minister shimon peres who deed yesterday after suffering a stroke. a look at legacy with the nobel peace prize winner who sat down with him for one of his last interviews. hillary clinton with bernie sanders appealing to young voters.
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at a rally yesterday in north carolina, mrs. clinton stressed the importance of these young voters. >> we're seeing spikes in early voting, and we're seeing voting rates among african-americans, latinos, and young people going up. [cheering] and for the first time the estimate is that young people could represent 25% of the vote. obviously i hope people vote for me but i would love to see that. because every election is about the future. jenna: simon rosenberg, founder of new democrat network and former campaign advisor for president bill clinton. scott jennings, former special assistant to president george w. bush and director of the ohio romney campaign. there was a little bad blood, a little aggression between two
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cams, the sanders camp and clinton camp. simply appearing with bernie sanders will she inherit his support? >> we'll find out. this is really important for democrats. we're much more dependent on younger voters than the republican party is. since 2012, 20 million new millenial voters come into the electorate. the support for hillary clinton next few months could make the difference between her winning and losing the election. they're putting a lot of energy into it now. you will see a lot of bernie sanders. they understand what they have to do. jenna: scott what do you think? >> i think hillary clinton is trying to solve a serious problem. she is far underperforming barack obama's approval rating with millenial voters. she is far underperforming the polling. what he got among millenials in 2012, you see from the geography where they're sending bernie sanders, new hampshire, minnesota, these states should be pretty solidly blue. that is where bernie sanders will campaign. we have major political problems
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for i will hillary among this group. she has to recover as simon said. if they don't recover among this group, the composition of the electorate changes, they're leaking votes to gary johnson, makes it real hard to win in some swing states and puts other blue states a lot closer than they like it. jenna: do you think it is make-or-break, simon? >> it is not make-or-break, but i think it is important, right? so many things go into winning campaign. clearly hillary had real problems with millenials in the primaries. there is much more of them then there used to be. in 2020 there will be more millenials than any other group in the electorate. she is working really hard. the campaign understands they have a problem. they're producing media now. they have changed their schedule. she is speaking to young voters. she is campaigning with bernie. they're working this very hard. i think they have the ability to really move the needle on this in the coming weeks. jenna: scott, there are some real differences though between bernie sanders and his platform and hillary clinton. what attracted those younger voters. what do you think about that?
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does that actually present potentially opportunity for donald trump? >> i think it does present an opportunity for trump. it also may present an opportunity for gary johnson. johnson is already winning some of these millenial voters because they don't like either major party nominee. the trump campaign would be right to eggs motive recognizes in policy, particularly foreign policy, maybe war in iraq as trump continues to hit on that that sanders and clinton have. what hillary clinton has to do, she has to get the levels back up to where obama had it in 2012 and where his approval rating today. it is make-or-break, because if younger voters fall off, they become a smaller portion of electorate, vote for third party candidates, some swing states will be decided by one or two point. leaking any part of the obama coalition makes it very hard for hillary clinton to win. this is key part of it. jenna: quick final question, simon. i'm curious about enthusiasm. we're quick to forget about the huge crowds of bernie sanders. stadiums he fills like
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donald trump. granted hillary clinton had a nice crowd yesterday, what we saw live here on "happening now," but it is different. it is different than what we saw with bernie sanders. so what about that enthusiasm? i know you will say just those rallies don't necessarily translate into votes but it's a different picture? >> no. i think rallies matter by the way. i think they matter for trump too. i think they are an indicator of enthusiasm. i think what you saw in the debate for example, on monday night, we saw big increase in younger people watching the debate. younger people are checking into this debate. they weren't as checked into the democratic primary. you didn't see a lot of young people watching our debates on saturday nights at 9:00. we're seeing young people checked into this electorate, this election. i think the clinton campaign is doing what they have to do to get these numbers back to where they need to go. jenna: question about whether or not it will be successful. that is something we'll be watching. great to have you both. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you. jon: shimon peres passed away
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last night at the age of 93. just two months ago, fox news senior correspondent eric shawn sat down with him at the former israeli prime minister's apartment in tel aviv. what he told eric about the jewish state, terrorism and life, up next in a special remembrance.
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jenna: leaders around the world paying tribute to israeli political legend. after former prime minister
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shimon peres died at age of 93. per rest is remembered as man of peace. his too funeral set for friday with former president clinton and president obama set to attend. eric shawn conducted one of the final interviews with him this past summer. he joins us now. eric? reporter: months ago i interviewed shimon peres sitting down in the apartment at tel aviv. he is warm inciteful, optimistic. at age 93 he shared what he has learned about life. his advice to young people, dream, imagine, don't be afraid to take risks, he said, much like he did. peres was confident we will defeat terrorism. it was strength of that spirit that guided israel, telling that back in 1948, the nation as he put it, nothing, no friends, no natural resources, he noted human capability.
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that same spirit will see us through today in this struggle against terrorism. you were a founding father of this nation. you have been through such threats. >> yes. >> and terrorism. >> yes. what do you see as the future? what concerns you? >> the future is don't underrate the danger of terrorists but to take them as heroes. they are not. their weakness is, that they are quite confused. don't exaggerate with fear. don't make fear the leading consideration. because they have weakness and
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our have a extremity of their own. >> reporter: he had joyful exuberance for life. after the interview he brought a chilled wine from the golan heights and along with my producer, we simply toasted life. we is gracious remarkable man left a lasting legacy. it was privilege to spend the time with him. as we left the apartment, jenna, as we bid good-bye, he was smiling. we'll have a lot more on foxnews.com, by the way. jenna: look forward to that eric, thank you. >> thank you. jon: what a life. tough talk from secretary of state john kerry what he says he plans to do, when he does not get cooperation from moscow on the crisis in syria. that's next. feel secure in your dentures... feel free to be yourself all day. just switch from denture paste to sea-bond denture adhesive seals. holds stronger than the leading paste all day... without the ooze. feel secure. be yourself. with stronger, clean sea-bond.
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♪ jon: nine minutes away from the tom the hour. check out what is on "outnumbered." what do you have? >> hey, jon. donald trump and hillary clinton back on the campaign trail and back to taunting each other apparently. is it preview from rest of the campaign? what can we expect from the next debates coming around the corner. >> yes it is. first lady on the trail and starting in flue campaign ad for hillary. as they attend a ritzy fund-raiser. is the democratic nominee leaning too much on the first couple? >> the fbi director being grilled for second day right now on capitol hill over immunity given to clinton aideses in the email server investigation. how much is it going to affect her campaign. >> plus our #oneluckyguy. "outnumbered" join us at top of the hour. >> a first-timer. jon: we'll see you then. take it easy on them. >> thanks, jon. jenna: fox news alert. secretary of state john kerry threatening to cut off all
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contact with moscow over syria unless russian and syrian government attacks on aleppo end. big news today. lucas thomas with the latest from the pentagon. reporter: that's right, jenna. this morning secretary of state john kerry spoke to the russian counterpart to cut off all talks with russia over syria. things escalated dramatically in the past week after a u.n. convoy delivering aid, food, blankets, toys for children was bombed. officials say here at the pentagon it was the russians that were responsible for that bombing. there were syrian jets also in the area. the russians deny the accusations. they say a u.s. drone was in the air. pentagon officials i have spoken to deny the charge. it's a big back and forth. one thing is not in dispute, jenna, the syrian people are the victims. right now there are 250,000 syrians trapped in eastern aleppo. some cut off from food and water, and dramatically, they really need aid they say. secretary of state when he spoke
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to his russian counterpart said quote, the secretary made clear the united states and its partners hold russia responsible for this situation, including the use of incendiary and bunker-buster bombs in an urban environment. dramatic escalation that puts civilians and great risk. so you can see, jenna, that the war of words continues although to date the u.s. military is not conducting any kind of air operations over the skies of aleppo to protect civilians on the ground, protect rebels. some are backed by united states. there has been no request by international community to have u.s. jets protect these aid convoys as they come from turkey into aleppo. also in the region, shipping gears over to iraq. we're about to hear from secretary of defense ash carter. after a week of reports of increase in u.s. troops on the ground there in iraq, the secretary, i'm told, will make announcement that over 500 troops, maybe even as high as
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600 troops are going to iraq. we'll hear more and get back with you real soon, jenna. jenna: bring number total more than 6,000 in iraq. something that we're watching very closely. lucas, thank you, a lot of breaking news there. jon: "fox business alert" on a story we closely followed on "happening now." after one of america's biggest banks scammed millions of its own customers. wells fargo is not going to win any customer service awards. we're learning its ceo, john stumpf will forfeit a whopping $41 million over the scandal. ahead of his planned testimony before the house financial services committee tomorrow. fox business's lauren simonetti joins us live with the latest. lauren? reporter: hi, jon. the financial consequences of the wells fargo scandal over illegally creating the fake accounts has reached the executive suite. the bank taking unusual move clawing back tens of millions of
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dollars from key leaders, as you mentioned 41 million from john stumpf and $19 million from the retired carrie tolstedt. she oversaw the division where the bank's bad behavior occurred. this is big deal. since the financial crisis regulators have been urging companies to claw back compensation for bad behavior. boards of directors have been hesitant to do so. this comes ahead of testimony tomorrow on capitol hill from the bank's executives, adding more pressure on wells fargo and its chief. on top of all of this the justice department is investigating the bank. the labor department is looking into potential worker abuses to see if tellers, branch managers and customer service representatives were threatened with losing their jobs if they didn't meet aggressive sales targets. as you know, wells fargo already agreed to pay $185 million in fines to regulators. it fired more than 5,000 employees for ethics violations and bilking customers out of
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their money but unfortunately the clawback might be a too little too late, jon. jon: we helped save wells fargo during the bank bailout with our tax dollars, did we not? >> yes. jon: this is the kind of thanks wells tagger going gives us, nice. -- wells tagger gove. lauren, thanks. jenna: 20 years after unsolved murder of a beauty queen. new information in the case. what jonbenet ramsey's father is saying. also about the investigation into the hillary clinton emails and reports that a trump advisor may have communicated with top russian officials. we're live with that story ahead. finite scalability. the microsoft cloud helps our customers get up and running, anywhere in the planet. wherever there's a phone, you've got a bank, and we could never do that before. entire organization. it helps us communicate better. we use the microsoft cloud's advanced analytics tools to track down cybercriminals. this cloud helps
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jenna: we will see you back here in an hour. bill: outnumbered begins right now. harris: we are awaiting and watching for a vote in the senate to overwrite president obama's veto, the president move today kill a bill that would allow americans to sue for
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sponsor terrorism. permitting first family members of september 11th victims to sue saudi arabia. the house is expect today vote later this week. both chambers of congress appeared to have the necessary two-thirds majority for the overwrite which would be the very first for the obama presidency. we are watching it and we will bring you the news, the updates as they happen. [music] sandra: this is outnumbered. i'm sandra split. here is harris faulkner. today's #one lucky guy. the editor in chief and managing editor of the wall street journal jerry baker is here and he is outnumbered. welcome to the couch, sir. >> pleasure making my debut. sandra: what are your expectations. you're a big fan of the show. >> i have seen so many men come on the show

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