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next presidential debate. thanks so much for being here tonight and watching. see you next week. i'm chris wallace i'm chris wallace with new reports trump may have paid no federal income taxes for years he and clinton plot strategies for the campaign's final five weeks. >> the clintons are a distorted past. we will be the very bright and clean future. >> trump threatens to go after bill clinton's sex scandals. >> impeachment for lying. remember that? >> and doubles down on attacking a former miss universe. >> a lot of things are coming out about her. i'm not going to say anything. i couldn't care less. >> we will talk with new jersey governor chris christie about trump's controversial comments
and how it effects his standing with women. then hillary clinton take as victory lap after the first debate. >> one down, twogo. >> we'll ask democratic senator claire mccaskill how clinton plans to keep her momentum. it's a fox news sunday exclusive and we will ask about the state of the race with just 37 days until the election. plus our power player of the week. one of america's greatest ballerinas takes on a new role. >> the next best thing to creating beautiful art is watching it. >> all right now on fox news sunday. and hello again from fox news in washington. donald trump faces a new controversy today with a report in the "new york times" he declared a $916 million loss in his 1995 tax returns, a loss so big the paper says he could have avoided paying any federal
income taxes for up to 18 years. meanwhile, trump has opened a new line of attack on the clinton's marriage and continues to fan a storm of criticism over comments about a former beauty queen. in a few minutes we will talk with clinton supporter senator claire mccaskill. but we begin with chris christie. let's start with this new report that trump had a billion dollar loss in 1995 that could have meant he paid no federal income taxes for years, maybe as much as 18 years. what does that say about him as a businessman and what does it say about him failing to pitch in like the rest of us to pay for our military and our roads and other services? >> first of all, chris, what it shows is what an absolute mess the federal tax code is. that is why donald trump is the person best positioned to fix it. there is no one who has shown more genius in their way to
maneuver as he rightfully used the laws to do that. he promised in his tax plan to change many of the special interest loopholes and get rid of them so you don't have this situation. i think the worst part is this is a tax code that people in america suffer under every day. second thing is on the "new york times" report fact is that even their own tax experts after a big flashy headline said there is nothing in there that was outside the law or outside the ordinary. the late nights was difficult time for lots of folks. we went into a recession as i know you will recall and donald trump wrote the book "the art of the comeback". he fought and clawed back to build another fortune to create tens of thousands of more jobs and this is actually a very, very good story for donald
trump. >> you're saying it is a good story for donald trump that he failed to pay any federal income taxes? that he took a billion dollar loss and failed to pay any federal income taxes for years? that's a good story? >> first of all, you don't know that he didn't pay any federal income taxes for years. all it said is that loss could be used for up to 18 years. 600 millions of that loss would be wiped out. let's be precise. the new yo"new york times" does have information that says mr. trump does not pay taxes. all they did was quote the law that says you can use that loss to offset. mr. trump has paid millions of dollars in taxes, state and local taxes, property taxes and federal income taxes over time. >> if i may --
>> you can't come on tv this morning and say that donald trump did not pay taxes for years and years when that is not what the story says. >> in fact, the trump campaign issued a statement last night that was a classic nondenial denial. here is what he put up. he has a responsibility to pay no more tax than legally required. it's in effect what he said in the first debate if you pay no taxes that makes him smart. i assume that if he had paid lots of taxes over those years he would have told us so. >> well, that's a big assumption on your part given the advice he has gotten. this proves to be advice from his lawyers and accountants. if you are talking about a tax return from 1995 and all of you in the media have been saying why don't you release tax returns that weren't under audit? they are all connected. the genius of donald trump has been to make sure that he
follows the law which is what he has done and plitolitically he d he is going to change the laws and no one is better suited to change the laws. >> so on this subject, as a top trump adviser, as the head of his presidential transition team your reaction to the story in the times today is no apologies? >> for god's sakes, no apologies for complying with law. and by the way, taking a bow for the fact that he has said well before the story came out that we need to change the tax laws because they are harming americans every day with their complexity and favoring people that they shouldn't favor. donald trump has been one person who against his own personal interests has said he wants to change the tax laws and as president he will. that's the kind of leadership america needs. one last thing about the losses,
the fact is this is a guy who rebuilt his entire business empire after the recession in the early 1990s. america needs a comeback and we need somebody like donald trump to lead that comeback. >> here we are six days after the first debate and donald trump is still talking about the former miss universe alicia machado and her weight gain. i want to put up the tweet that he wrote at 5:30 a.m. on friday morning. did crooked hillary help disgusting check out sex tape and past alicia m become a u.s. citizen so she could use her in the debate? >> who gets at 3:00 in the morning to engage in a twitter attack against a former miss universe? >> governor, if you believe the polls, trump's two biggest problems are questions about
his -- and the fact that he has a 20 point gender gap when it comes to women. why is he still talking about a beauty queen's weight? >> i have to tell you the truth. the stuff you guys focus on amazes me. >> wait a minute -- he put out the tweet at 5:30 in the morning. we didn't. >> you know, chris, lots of tweets get put out all the time by this candidate and other candidates. here is the thing, chris. you look at what has happened here you are talking about why is donald trump after six days tweeting about that. why is hillary clinton still attacking and we now have evidence of her attacking bernie sanders supporters, calling the people who live in their parents' basements? this is to add to basket of deplorables. this is a woman who if you are not a part of the northeast elite she apparently has no use for you. yet we are talking about a tweet about a beauty pageant.
i have to tell you the truth. with isis on the rise, with the problems that we have with our economy and job creation, as a governor who is practical and has to worry about solving problems i can't believe i'm spending time on a sunday morning program talking about it. >> i'm surprised donald trump sent out the tweet. let me ask you about something else he said which is that he is going to go after the clintons personal scandals. hillary clinton was married to the single greatest abuser of women in the history of politics. hillary was an enabler and she attacked the women who bill clinton mistreated afterwards. that is what he was telling "new york times" on friday. wasn't talking about isis or taxes, but about the way the clintons treated women. >> you saw hillary clinton on the debate stage talking about these very issues.
you saw hillary clinton on the debate stage essentially accuse donald trump of being a racist. yet i don't see any outrage from mainstream media about that. the fact is that donald trump's entire life has been towards making sure that everyone in america has an opportunity at a great job. everybody in america has an opportunity to build wealth. you have mrs. clinton on stage talking about and essentially saying that donald trump was a racist. yet we don't have outrage about that. every time there is an utterance that offends we have outrage towards donald trump. where is the outrage towards hillary clinton? chris, there has to be fair play here. i haven't seen it. i'm not going to jump to every piece of bait that people throw up when nobody is spending time talking about the outrageous things hillary clinton said on that debate stage less than a week ago.
>> governor, you were involved in preparing trump for the first debate and afterwards seven unnamed campaign advisers talked to the "new york times" about the fact that they think that trump did not prepare adequately for the debate. let me put up criticisms. they say trump campaigned instead of rehearsing. there were too many people on his prep team and trump found it hard to focus. will he prepare any differently from the second debate? and most importantly, is he going to hold mock debates this time? >> listen, i love when seven unnamed sources are talking about things. you know what i'm willing to guarantee is that in none of those seven unnamed people were in the room during debate prep. they speak because they are jealous that they weren't in the room. you know how this game is played. i love monday morning
quarterbacks. i can guarantee you that most of those if not all of them have never been on the stage and debated under that level of pressure and scrutiny. i have and i can tell you this. donald trump prepared well for his debate the last time and he will decide how he prepares for the debate on sunday night. >> let's turn to your day job as governor of new jersey and real things. i want to talk to you about the terrible commuter train crash in hobok hoboken. what is the latest on the investigation? can you tell us how fast the train was going and why it didn't brake? >> chris, we don't know the answer to that question yet. the ntsb has taken over the investigation as is the normal course. the state attorney general's office is providing resources to them. because of the damage inside of the hoboken train terminal which
i know you know that terminal it is a historic building. because of the damage they have not yet been able to access all of the train cars. so we can't get all the information we need yet. i caution that the ntsb inspector herself when she came on friday said that this was going to be at least seven to ten days before they had anything to say. i think it is safe to say that the train came into the station too fast. we don't know why that is. we don't know if it was error by the engineer, whether there was a medical emergency with the engineer or whether some other type of mechanical failure. let's take a deep breath. let's let the ntsb do their work and we have crews there right now removing debris to make it possible for them to be able to access the train cars, the recorders and all the information on the trains. we will get to the bottom of this. this is an awful tragedy but one
where i remember my time as a prosecutor, you don't jump to conclusions. you let facts lead you to appropriate conclusion and we will participate with the ntsb. >> i have to ask you. while all of this is going on, two of your former aides are on trial for their alleged role in bridge gate allegedly shutting down lanes leading to the george washington bridge to punish a mayor. david wildstein pleaded guilty and says this meeting, we have a couple of pictures at 9/11 event during lane closures you and he and one of the defendants were joking about the lane closures. your response to this? >> chris, nothing has proven anything different than what i said on january 9 of 2014 which
is that i knew nothing about the lane realignments either prior to or during their occurrence, that i had no role in authorizing and i had no role in anything regarding the lane closures. the fact is that there will be all kinds of things set up in the courtroom especially by someone who has already pled guilty to a crime. i'm not going to comment beyond that except to repeat that we now have had three investigations, two of them led by partisan democratic appointees and none of them have come to conclusion other than i had no role, no knowledge and no participation in this. we'll let the trial go and let the jury make determinations for the people on trial and when it is over there will be more i will be able to say. >> governor christie thank you. thank you for your time today. always good to talk to you. >> always great to be on your program. have a great sunday. senator claire mccaskill.
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a look outside the beltway at manheim, pennsylvania, where a look outside the beltway where donald trump was campaigning this weekend. joining us now from st. louis, missouri senator claire mccaskill one of the first members of congress to endorse hillary clinton. you have seen the story in the "new york times" and heard my discussion with chris christie. donald trump apparently declared a billion dollar loss in 1995 which the times says means legally he could have paid no federal income taxes for years.
your reaction? >> if you look at the way donald trump has conducted business he crashes businesses into bankruptcy leaving scores of businesses unpaid, people really hurting with the losses his companies have suffered. he walks away unscathed and appears he walks away with a golden ticket that allows him to avoid taxes for decades. i think the key here is how is he going to fix it? look at his tax plan. guess what his tax plan benefits billionaires. it benefits donald trump. that should be no surprise to anyone since that is the way he sees the world. he doesn't care about small businesses he didn't pay. he doesn't care about the people who lost millions of dollars in all of his bankruptcies. he cares about donald. >> let me ask you because the times said that they talked to lawyers and if he did have a billion dollar loss that all of this would be legal. they don't know that he actually
did it. assuming he did, do you know anyone who pays more taxes than they have to? >> that's not the point. the point here is his idea of fixing the tax code is to take care of billionaires and his losses were something he used to avoid taxes but those losses represent real pain to many people who never got paid. he has said he uses bankruptcy as a business tool. this is a guy who thinks stiffing people, working people, it is so ironic that he tried to lift himself up as some kind of champion of working people, look at his record of how he treated working people throughout his life in business. it's not a good record. >> senator, as we discussed with chris christie, trump in an interview with the "new york times" has made it clear he is going to go after the clintons' sex scandals. he says clinton was an abuser and that hillary clinton was an
enabler. here is trump on the campaign trail this week. >> the clintons are a distorted past. we will be the very bright and clean future. >> senator, your response? >> well, first of all, i think that it tells a lot about the character of someone as to what they want to focus on during the presidential campaign. and the american people understand that hillary clinton and her marriage is not what is important in this election. and if he really wants to compare his character as it relates to how he has conducted his personal life over his adult life with that of hillary clinton even on that score she comes out ahead because this is not -- this is a guy who goes on national radio and talks about his sex life in details that is disgusting. who does that? who does that? and that's why it is so ironic that he thinks this would be a
good idea. this is not somebody who is looking to his advisers. chris y have colleagues in the senate who have been wringing hands about donald trump. and he will listen to good people. clearly not. he is not listening to the people around him because everyone around him is saying don't go there, donald. lay off the beauty queen. lay off the personal marriage situation of the clintons. >> i think and you can argue whether it is appropriate or not, i think his point with regard to the sex scandals isn't what bill clinton did. over the course of the years she has gone after a number of women. she called monica lewinski a nascarestic looney toon and
called jennifer flowers a gold digger. >> doesn't have much of a resume to fall back on. >> and last year hillary clinton at one point said that people who say that they have been raped deserve to be believed but then she was asked about juanita brodrick who in 1978 said she was raped by bill clinton. >> i would say everybody should be believed first until they are disbelieved. >> hillary clinton does have a long record of going after her husband's accusers at least some of whom were later vindicated. >> hillary clinton may have defended her husband in various situations. if we want to compare, when the cameras weren't rolling after a law degree from one of the best schools in the country, she went to work for the children's
defense fund. she said humans rights are women's rights when she was first lady. she lived a life of championing women's rights, sponsor of equal pay legislation. donald trump is telling hostesses at the golf club they are too fat. this is really not even a close comparison of who championed womens rights in their lives and who has not. >> even you weighted into this subject back in 2006. here is what you said then about president clinton. >> i had a lot of problems with his personal issues. i said at the time i think he has been a great leader but i don't want my daughter near him. >> if it was okay for you to discuss then why is it off limits for donald trump. >> it wasn't okay for me. i regretted it the minute it
came out of my mouth. it was mean. it was unnecessary and i apologized immediately. that is something donald trump doesn't know how to do. if only he would show some humility and the kind of character traits that we need in a president, emotional stability, ability to be introspective and listen to others. i regret those things and apologize for saying that. i don't think we have ever heard donald trump say he is sorry for anything. >> let's turn to donald trump's running feud, which you mentioned a moment ago, with a former beauty queen, alicia machado about her weight gain. you sent a tweet the democratic women senators have talked and we're concerned about donald's weight. campaign stress? we think a public daily weigh in is called for. how big of a mistake do you think donald trump is making? >> well, obviously that was a
joke. and we were all laughing about it and talked about the tweet before i sent it out. several of my colleagues retweeted it. we are trying to make light of the situation that frankly has a serious side to it. and that is how he views women, how he objectifies women, how he has -- we are not just talking about this campaign. it is important to look at people when the cameras aren't on them, before they have gotten into the bright lights of a presidential campaign. this is a man who has a history of going after women in inappropriate ways and in this campaign. what he said about megyn is disqualifying. that's why this election is so important. >> on the other hand, hillary clinton has a report and doubts persist about her honesty. it turns out the justice
department gave some form of immunity to five people involved with her private e-mails including her state department chief of staff cheryl mills. here is how fbi director james comey defended that. >> you can call us wrong but don't call us weasels. we are not weasels. >> if no one did anything wrong, that's what hillary clinton says with a private e-mail server, if nobody did anything wrong why are five people that were involved with them asking for and receiving immunity from criminal prosecution? >> well, because the fbi was looking at hillary clinton as the subject of the investigation. i spent a lot of years as a prosecutor. if anybody has worked with the fbi they would tell you this is not an organization of a bunch of democratic partisan liberals. this is a -- we do not take
sides. we go after the fact and we are determined to get to the bottom of it. that is why dozens and dozens of fbi agents spent months and months doing everything including getting immunity which happens frequently in the course of investigation to try to find out if there was anything criminal that occurred. they -- >> why would they need immunity? >> he said in his testimony perhaps because they were worried about lawyers say get immunity if you can get it if you are part of providing information in an investigation. it is common to do. any prosecutor will tell you this is common place. they were trying to look at hillary clinton. they wanted the cooperation of witnesses because they wanted to try to see if hillary clinton had done anything wrong. they came to the conclusion she had not. that is the fbi. that is why we need to put this to rest. she has admitted her mistake and
realize republicans will try to use this to frankly distract everyone from the fact that their candidate is temperamentally unfit to lead the strongest nation in the world. >> thank you. thanks for joining us. always good to talk with you. >> thank you, chris. up next, we will bring in our sunday group to discuss the new revelation trump could have paid no federal taxes for 18 years.
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for up to 18 years. time now for our sunday group. bob woodward from the washington post, author of the last of the president's men which is coming out in paper back next week. julie pace who coverathize white house and the campaign for the the associated press and washington examiner contributor lisa booth. mitt romney got hammered in 2012 when he put out his tax return and it turned out he paid an effective tax rate of 14%. what do you think the reaction will be to the idea, the possibility that donald trump paid no federal income taxes for years? >> i don't think it hurts him as much as it did with mitt romney. donald trump has been honest about the fact that he has taken advantage of the system. he mentioned it in the first debate and said if he tries to pay as little taxes as possible. neither of them are candidates of the people. donald trump is a billionaire. hillary clinton lives in a
rarefied world. she admitted to not driving a car. she made over $100 million from paid speeches to the likes of goldman sachs. neither candidate is really a candidate of the people. >> let me turn to you, michael. because we should point out that trump according to the times did nothing illegal. if he had this kind of huge loss you are allowed to carry it over to shield income in following years. the argument that claire mccaskill makes, he is the champion of the working man and yet paying no taxes for years and years. >> we don't know whether he paid taxes. >> he did make a statement that was conspicuous. >> the federal government brought in $1.4 trillion in tax dollars. there is plenty of tax revenue. washington, d.c. squanders it. if you don't like the manner in which distribution of the tax we need a new tax code.
if you look at the two candidates hillary clinton has a tax plan that keeps the complex tax system, adds a ninth tax bracket and donald trump has an incredible pro growth tax plan written by my colleague at the heritage foundation, by larry kudlow. if you don't like the distribution of who is paying what. the problem is washington, d.c., the capital building. that is where we need new ideas. >> republicans going to be able to and the trump campaign able to sell that argument? i know the tax game and if anybody can fix it it is me? >> that is going to be the argument. it's not a bad argument. the one that i keep thinking about is the argue for transparency inp presidential election. if donald trump put this out in may of this year he could have answered the question. if he put out the rest of his tax returns we would know
whether he was paying federal income taxes or not. you will see the clinton campaign not just focus on what we learn from the new documents but try to use it to papt a broader picture of donald trump, someone running on his business record but suffered a billion dollar loss. someone who may not have been paying contractors, people for worked for him and yet isn't paying income taxes. that could be damaging when we are talking about going after undecided voters five weeks from election day. >> then there is hillary clinton who acted after the monday debate as if she was winner. here she is. >> did anybody see that debate last night? oh, yes. >> she is enjoying herself. you say that you were on the road this week in north carolina. you talked to a lot of people and that kind of gloating didn't set too well? >> you know, she won the debate.
i think there is universal agreement. i guess trump would not agree. she really did but that clip shows this kind of self congratulations, self-satisfaction and as we know and as we tried to teach our children when you win something don't gloat, humility works. the problem for her is this feeds the notion that she's in this for herself. you see that she was overjoyed with what she did. fine. take a victory lap but there -- something like that doesn't get dialled back and it probably should. >> lisa, it is worth remembering and i think at least polls indicate and fox poll had it 3 to 1 that clinton won the debate.
she apparently got a bump, not a huge bump but a bump in the polls. there are still lots of vulnerabilities for trump to know after her. people have considerable questions about hillary clinton. >> absolutely. i think hillary clinton's biggest problem is she represents the status quo. what is she going to do differently than we haven't seen. if you look at the battle ground point 55% of voters want big changes in terms of the economy and politics. you look at the question about do you want changes at ohio and florida. voters want radical change. there is no bigger disrupter in the election than donald trump. he is running as the outsider. there is information there and data points to show that voters want the change. now he just needs to answer the question about temperament which i don't think he did himself favors during the first debate but has time to address that. >> i want to ask the follow up with you on that.
that is a very strong argument that you make. i think that is why a lot of people thought he did very well if not won the first half hour of the debate. the argument you have been here 20 or 30 years and haven't done anything about it. then he continues to talk about miss universe. >> which doesn't make sense. he shouldn't have done that. the problem is he went right in and took the bait of hillary clinton. they had an add cut and ready to go with this messaging strategy. he should have taken opportunities instead of defending business practices and going after miss universe what he should have done is taken the opportunities to attack her on benghazi and private e-mail server which draws into question her own judgment. use the opportunities to go after her vulnerabilities which there are plenty of. >> reporters are all frustrated campaign advisers. if they just listen to us.
when you have filed immunity when you are allowing witness whose happen to be lawyers and targets to sit in on an interview, that is not the fbi that i use today work with. >> this is the fbi you know and love. this was done by pros in the right way. >> fbi director defending the decision to grant immunity to five people in the clinton private e-mail investigation. we are back now with the panel. michael, how potent is the clinton e-mail issue? is it already priced into the polls? people already know what they think or do you think it has the capacity to hurt her with undivided or swing voters? >> i think it can be a major issue. donald trump has to make it one and should bring it up in future debates. this gets at absolute recklessness with national
security information and misjudgment. who looked at this situation and said i will put a private server in my house and who surrounds themselves with a staff where not one person thought this is a bad idea. this gets as national security and who are the types of people that she surrounds herself with and do they have judgment to hem her. it is a number of important issues and important for donald trump to bring it up. >> we asked you for questions for the panel. and we got a bunch of trump's plan to go after the clinton sex scandal which he announced on friday. this is on twitter from bill. he needs to focus on hillary's flawed policies, not on the past action of her husband. lisa, do you share the misgivings of a lot of our viewers who responded to our question that this is not helpful for trump to bring up? >> i think that both candidates
need to be held to the same standard. hillary clinton is going back 20 something years to attack donald trump she should be equally scrutinized. wall street journal had an article saying if hillary clinton can't use her gender as a political shield and a sword. it is hypocritical that she has gone after the various women and criticizing them and dragging names through the mud. she wants to say each victim deserves to be heard and believed. i think in the mind of a lot of voters that hypocrisy and doesn't muddy the waters to go after her. i don't think donald trump is the best messenger here. i think it needs to be done by a super pack or outside influence, not donald trump himself. >> somebody else. >> exactly. let's be honest. no moral high ground this election cycle. >> no high ground. that is all gone. we were talking in the
commercial and bob woodward was saying he has a theory about how to connect all the issues that donald trump is having these days. >> it's about isolation. you don't have to do much reporting, you read the stories and see he makes his own decisions. really it's not listening to somebody. the excellent "new york times" story this morning, very important on the tax question, but why wasn't this examined a year ago? why didn't trump trust somebody enough to say here are my vulnerabilities. here is the business record. here are the taxes. because people want straight talk. we should have learned that a long time ago. >> you can certainly say that about hillary clinton. >> yes. absolutely. and the theme here is we have two candidates who seem to be running their own show and if you look back at presidents, go
back to nixon or through obama, the disease here is this isolation, the sense of no one can come in and slam their fists down and say come clean on the taxes, come clean on the e-mails. hillary clinton in the debate monday said she made a mistake about the e-mail server and all of that business. the fact is she was making the mistake every day for years on that. and top secret information flowing around. we are probably before the election going to get another dose of her e-mails. this all could have been straightened out a long time ago. if you had a candidate or in the case of trump people saying you know what we have a kind of as candidates a responsibility to trust the public with the truth. >> i'm sure there is an element
of isolation with trump. trump when he is at his best one of the first republican candidates to break out of the bubble the problem of the 1980s. trump talks about the economic and social disconnectedness of the working class. trump talks about corruptness of washington, d.c. and there is this bubble in politics that trump is pierced when he is at his best. >> the problem for trump -- the problem for trump is i think now he does have a team around him that is pushing him to those messages. it's written into his speeches now. pushing him to those messages. it's written into his stump speeches now. he did that in the first debate. the reality is donald trump is who he is. whether he is in a small isolated group of advisers or a larger group of advisers, you
look at his history for decades in the public eye, he is a man who will chase the shiny object. the clinton campaign has learned that very well. >> i want to in the time we have left here take a 30,000 foot view there was a big milestone and that was the debut. there are five weeks left there are going to be two debates. the debate on tuesday, the second president's town hall next sunday. clinton clearly got a bump from the first debate and is ahead. it's still well within reach. julie, your perspective on where this race is right now. >> i think despite a lot of the volatility that we see in the race day to day and the various issues that pop up, the race actually has been fairly steady, if youoo look at the fundamenta or the months. i think clinton has a well-organized campaign. she has more pathways to the 270 electoral college votes thatt se needs. she has strength with certain
demographic groups. she stillsh struggles with her honesty and trustworthiness. she is struggling with young voters that gives trump an opportunity. his struggle right now while he has coalesced a large segment of the republican party, it's not enough, and he is now doing what he needs to do to bring in women, some younger voter, some minority voters to really flush this out and give him a pathway to 278. >> michael, let me turn to you on that. i think we all thehe wouldnk ag that his twitter storm and continuing this c fight with mi universe was highly counterproductive. move on to policy. does he in these next five weeks have the opportunity to turn that around? because i think he probably did clearly hurt himself with women, with hispanics, with a lot of people who have questions about his temperament. can he in the five weeks make a second chance to make a first impression? >> yeah. i think there is still enough time for him to win. i think he needs to focus on thosen. messages that i brought up, which are about talking about the real issues people
feel today and how they can take us on a path to the future. this is a race that hillary has had a 3, 4 percentage point lead in. hillary had a good june, hillary had a good july, trump had a good august. we'll see what happens in october and whether there is enough time for trump to get back on the message. but it requires a discipline talking about real issues and not the silly stuff from 20 years ago. >> bob, 30 seconds. >> real -- what does the voter want? the voternt wants honesty. and i think you look at the next debate and whoever wins is going to be somebody who conveys the feeling through what they say addressing serious issues and says hey, you know what? i'm really coming clean. and we have two candidates who are not coming clean enough. >> and beyond honesty, i think they also want people, a candidate who they feel is in it for them and not in it for themselves, and there has beenta feeling that too much of this has been about the two candidates and not about the
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for decades, she was one of america's most celebrated dancers. but now she is starting a new chapter of her career. here is our power player of the week. ♪ >> leaving the stage was traumatic, heartbreaking, one of the most difficult, wonderful things i've experienced in my life. ♪ >> julie cant is talking about the moment in 2015 when she decided to retire. after 30 years as a star of the american ballet theatre.
at age 45, she could feel her skills declining, and there was another side. >> at the end of the day, when derek jeter retired i guess i figured i had to go too. and mariano. >> that's true. >> they were my guys. they're not going to play, i guess i can't either. >> the question was what to do next. the washington ballet asked her to become its artistic director. >> as i said to some of the dancers, the next best thing to creating beautiful art is watching it. >> and so kent now spends hours in the studios, helping dancers realize their dreams just as she did. >> it's home. it's at home. >> the bar, the mirror, the floor, the smell, the piano, the ambience, to me, it's just home. >> she wants to expand the company and its repertoire of ball lace. >> my goals are to take this
company to a place where it hasn't been before. >> part of her job is also to oversee the washington school of ballet, which has more than a thousand students. is that a concern of yours, that being such a great dancer yourself, that may not translate into being a great teacher? >> i always say to them i don't want you to do what you think i would do. because i'd really rather do it myself. i want to see what you're going to do. i have no memories in life before dance. >> kent started dancing as a child. at age 10, her first professional performance was alongside a master. >> to be this close, sharing a wing with baryshnikov, it was incredible. >> she would go on to be one of the most celebrated dancers of her generation. how is it to be a prima ballerina? fun? glamorous? or just hard work? >> it's the whole -- it's everything.
>> while she is now retired, she doesn't close the door entirely on a possible encore. are you going to perform with the company? >> that's not on the plan, no. if it made sense for me to perform, then i'm a very logical person as far as method and if it makes sense, then it makes sense. >> but julie kent understands after 30 years in the spotlight, she has taken on a new role. >> i loved it. i still love it. i would still do it if i felt like it was the right thing to be doing. but you have to give the light to the next generation. >> this week the washington ballet celebrated its 40th anniversary with a performance at the kennedy center. and they officially welcomed julie kent as the new artistic director. now to program note. tune to fox news channel all day tuesday for special coverage of the vice presidential debate.
the battle in virginia. and that's it for today. have a great week. and we'll see you next "fox news sunday." at noon eastern on outnumbered. now my friend, bret ba it is a perfectly legal application of the tax code. >> donald trump's taxes. front-page news and in the spotli there is no one who has n more genius in their way to maneuver around the tax code. >> democrats suggest an opening. >> on the stump, the gop nominee on the attack about his opponent's stamina. >> she can't make it 15 feet to her car. >> and even fidelity. i don't think she is loyal to bill. >> folks, really, why should she be, right? >> but secretly recorded audio from a clinton fundraiser -- >> i am occupying from the center left to the center right. >> -- is