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3:00 pm and don't forget to tune into fox news channel tomorrow night for what is sure to be a fascinating presidential debate and we will see you next week, on sunday next week. welcome to mud field on the campus of washington, university, in st. louis, missouri. in a little more than 24 hours, a second presidential debate already seen as crucial for the struggling donald trump campaign will take on added importance for both candidates, dealing with a pair of potentially disastrous twists in this bizarre campaign. i'm shannon braem in tonight for bret baier. this is our official weekend edition of "special report." we'll have special analysis of this or any other recent presidential campaign. donald trump is spending this day exactly one month from election day trying to release of 11-year-old audio in which he
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makes vulgar excellents about women. hillary clinton is hoping trump's comments will overshadow the leaks of damaging documents from her most recent past. jennifer griffin in st. louis with coverage of the clinton campaign, but we begin tonight with chief political correspondent, carl cameron, outside trump tower in new york. good evening, carl. >> hi, shannon. there was a small demonstration of trump supporters here today, and exactly an hour ago, the republican nominee, donald trump, came outside of trump tower, frankly, against the advice of both police and secret service, and for a brief few minutes, he waved to a huge throng of very, very excited supporters, despite the fact that the trump campaign is on defense now, more than at any other time during this and in the next couple of days, they expect to face more of it. donald trump says he will never withdrew from the race. and amid gop demands that he quit, told "the washington post," quote, they're not going to make me quit and they can't
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make me quit. he told "the wall street journal" there's, quote, zero chance i'll quit, and the supporttime getting is unbelievable. house speaker paul ryan disinvited trump to wisconsin's fall fest today after hearing the 11-year-old tape of trump's profanity-laced boasting that his fame allowed him to grope women without consent or warning. running mate mike pence who said he and his wife found trump's remarks horrifying, was scheduled at the last minute to go in trump's place this morning, but he canceled today, too. ryan said he was sickened by trump's comments. trump's aides believe that the clinton campaign found and released the tape as part of their opposition research. >> when you're a star, with you can do anything. grab elm by the [ bleep ]. you know, i'm automatically attracted to beautiful women. i just start kissing them, like a manager net. i don't even wait. >> reporter: trump aides believe the clinton campaign has more bombs to drop. the only republican women in this year's gop presidential
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primaries, carly fiorina said, trump does not represent me or my party. reince priebus said no one should ever be talked about in these terms ever. even in florida, struggling in the aftermath of hurricane matthew, the republican governor had to deal with trump's lewd statements. >> i don't know why anybody would say things like that. >> reporter: john thune, a member of the leadership on capitol hill said donald trump should withdraw and mike pence should be our nominee effective immediately. conservative republican senator ben sasse of nebraska made his pitch for pence to take over, quote, character matters. @realdonaldtrump is obviously not going to win, but he could stale make an honorable move. step aside and let pence win. but nationwide, ballots with trump's name have already been printed and forcing him out would be nearly impossible. pence insiders say trump remains on the ticket. he issued a statement saying, i do not condone his remarks and cannot defend them.
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i'm grateful he's expressed remorse and apologized to the american people. with a critically important town hall style debate tomorrow in st. louis, trump tried to put out the firestorm first with a brief statement apologizing if anyone was offended. then added a video released overnight as outrage spread. >> anyone who knows me knows these words don't reflect who i am. i said it, i was wrong, and i apologize. i've said symptom foolish things, but there's a big difference between the words and actions of other people. bill clinton has actually abused women and hillary has bullied, attacked, shamed, and intimidated his victims. >> reporter: former rival chimed in aggressive. formerly senator marco rubio, who's endorsed trump, said donald's comments were vulgar, egregious, and impossible to justify. no one should ever talk about any woman in those terms, even in private. and trump's democratic rivals are also pouncing. >> any republican who has said they are for donald trump, they
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need to be asked by the press and others and by constituents right now, do you still think he's qualified to be president of the united states? do you still think he is? >> reporter: the republican national committee today halted some of its direct mail messaging and some other projects about messaging in anticipation of trump coming up with new rhetoric and a new message because of this controversy. it will be some time before it's actually done. this is not meant to be a rebuke, sources say. it's just that they recognize that there is going to need to be a new kind of message. shannon? >> all right, carl cameron live in new york. we'll talk about it with the panel, coming up. thanks, carl. now to hillary clinton's campaign, which is active on three major fronts tonight. one, debate preparation. two, responding to that unexpected get for her campaign, the trump audio. and three, the fallout from newly released e-mails showing clinton in what could be described as in a disingenuous
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light. >> reporter: the clinton campaign is not saying whether or not the new e-mails released by wikileaks are authentic. they are quoting members of the intelligence community who say that it is possible that whoever hacked into the e-mails could have altered some of them to make them more damaging, calling it a sophisticated russian disinformation campaign. it should concern every american that russia is willing to engage in such hostile acts in order to help donald trump become president of the united states. the e-mails released late yesterday include thousands of campaign e-mails, apparently sent by chairman john podesta, that revealed the inner works of the clinton campaign, and contained potentially damaging excerpts from clinton's wall street speeches. one excerpt from a speech given to goldman sachs in 2014 has the header, clinton admits she is out of touch. quote, obviously, i'm kind of far removed because the life i've lived and the economic, you know, fortunes that my husband
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and i now enjoy, but i haven't forgotten it. the speech excerpts also delve into her support for a single-payer health care system, like the one in canada. she also expressed praise for trade deals and open borders. clinton's spokesman, glenn kaplan, said in a statement, quote, earlier today, the u.s. government removed any reasonable doubt that the kremlin has weaponized wikileaks to meddle in our election and benefit donald trump's candidacy. donald trump tried to use the leaked e-mails to divert attention from his hot mike moment. quote, hillary clinton's secret wall street speeches prove what we have known all along, that clinton is a self-serving washington insider who has continued to deceive the american people for 30 years. clinton spokesman, brian fallon, criticized the media for play g ing into the hands of russians by saying, "striking how quickly concerns about russia misunderstanding oil illegal
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hacks gave way to hacks. another statement she made about the transpacific partnership trade deal. my dream is a market with open trade and open borders, sometime in the future with energy that is as green and sustainable as we can get it, powering growth and opportunity for every person in the hemisphere. clinton told a brazilian bank in 2013, she added, we have to resist protectionism, other kinds of barriers to market access. rnc chairman reince priebus issued a statement. quote, the truth that has been exposed here is that the persona hillary clinton has adopted for her campaign is a complete and utter fraud. how can bernie sanders and many like-minded democrats continue to support her candidacy in light of these revelations. >> there appears to be concern in the e-mails by the clinton campaign, even before they got off the ground about the relationship between goldman sachs and the clinton foundation. in fact, in may 2014, soon-to-be clinton campaign manager, robby mook, asked, suggested that it
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was troubling that goldman sachs had been chosen to host an event for the clinton foundation. shannon? >> all right, jennifer griffin, live following the clinton campaign, thank you. let's get some analysis now on the trump and clinton stories with syndicated columnist, charles krauthammer. he is live with us in washington tonight. good evening, charles. >> good evening. i'm in my saturday gear here. the johnny cash -- >> we like it! we like it. the man in black, it's working for you. and now we need to know what you think about these two scandals. let's start with trump, the audio. does he overcome it? what does he need to say tomorrow night? does he address it head-on? >> look, if you say something in realtime, you're saying something to the audience, you say it wrong or you create a gaffe which is in washington speak, is the truth accidentally. you can apologize and rtry to walk that back. if you are caught on tape saying
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something privately, that's of a different -- how do you apologize for something that was not intended for audiences outside? when he said in his apology, anyone who knows me, knows that this tape does not reflect who i am, knows that the problem is that it is precisely the opposite. any private recording is damaging precisely because it reflects who you are. to take almost a trivial example, when mitt romney talked about the 47%, he thought he was not speaking to a wider audience. he was betraying what he really thought. and that's what kills you. >> well, charles, here we're talking about something that's more than a decade old. it's long before trump was actually running for anything, much less the presidency. he said that he's been changed by traveling this country, by meeting people, hearing from them. he says he's a changed person
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since then. do you think voters will give him the benefit of the doubt? >> i don't think there's one in a thousand who believes that. the ones who think that they want him to be the president and don't really care about this, there's nobody who's going to think he's a changed man. what's the evidence that he's a changed man? in his life and the way he has spoken about other women? no. that's not -- if somebody ignores this or overlooks this or could say, look, he may not be the guy i want to emulate or want my family to emulate or my kids, but nonetheless, hillary would run an administration so disastrous, that would have such effects in the future that i'll support him anyway, yes, that's logical. but anybody who thinks that he's matured since he was what, 59, i think not. >> all right. we're going to talk about it with the panel, including a very prominent trump supporter coming up and get their take on it. but i also want to talk to you
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about hillary clinton, these e-mails. john podesta has suggested, i don't know which ones are fake, i don't know which ones are real. if they are, there are excerpts from speeches where she talks about having a public position versus a private position, open borders and open trade, what about that? will that have any impact on her campaign? >> in a normal year with normal timing, this would be utterly devastating. if it had not come out just an hour or so after the trump revelation, it is all we would be talking about. we would be mining these e-mails for more and more damaging material. damaging in two ways. one is simply on the policy front. her talking about open borders. that is a 30-second ad that would run in a continuous loop in some parts of the country and would be devastating. but she's known her flaw is, you can't trust her, you can see it in the numbers, that's her history going back 30 years, and
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she is admitting here, the public and the private are different. and you can just see it right out there undeniable. >> we're going to dig into those, as well, more content from those speeches and talk about the different positions that appear to be outlined in these leaked e-mails. charles, thank you very much, good to see you down there in d.c. >> my pleasure. >> chris wallace, by the way, will sit down with clinton's campaign chair for a fox news sunday exclusive. you don't want to miss this. he is going to ask john podesta about the latest wikileaks documents and get a preview of the second presidential debate tomorrow. that is also going to be joined from the republican side, kellyanne conway. she's going to be there from the trump campaign. she's going to be on the show with chris as well. you don't want to miss those two big interviews on fox news sunday. held, hurricane matthew is still pounding the coasts of south carolina and georgia tonight, but it has weakened to a category one storm. and it appears that most of the atlantic coast has escaped the
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catastrophic damage that was predicted. at least nine deaths have been worted in the u.s. haiti feared far worse with 170 now reported debt. 200 naval ships with marines are headed there. they're going to assist in humanitarian relief. we have fox team coverage of the storm's effects here in the u.s. correspondent jonathan fairy is in north carolina, not far from where the streets of charleston are flooded tonight. rick is in new york where the storm's going. good evening, jonathan. >> good evening, shannon. things here are relatively calm right now, a far cry from the pounding waves and howling wind that we were witnessing for most of last night. and yet, there are still reminders of the violent storm that tore through here, much of this island community remains without power. after pounding the south carolina coast all night with heavy winds, hurricane matthew made landfall this morning to
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the northeast of charleston, sparing the historic city from its most intense winds, but driving a 9.29-foot storm surge into charleston harbor, the highest level since hurricane hugo back in 1989. as conditions improved, governor nikki haley urged evacuees to wait two days before returning home, so that first responders can inspect buildings and remove fallen trees and power lines from roads. >> the anxiousness is when the storm is coming, when the storm hits, you're praying, and now the frustration sets in. and what i'm going to ask for you is patience. most injuries, most fatalities occur after a storm. because people attempt to move in too soon. >> reporter: before making landfall in south carolina, matthew skirted the florida coast. although the eye stayed offshore, strong winds knocked out power to more than 1 million customers. >> as of midnight last night, we had 6,000 people still in our shelters. we have 88 shelter openings. and hopefully, as people get their power back, we'll be able
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to get people back in their homes quickly and get people back to their homes, back to their jobs, back to school. >> reporter: as it left florida, matthew battered the georgia coast with powerful storm surge and winds. although the storm system has weakened considerably, it has already claimed nearly a dozen lives and it's expected to dump large amounts of rain as it moves up the coast toward north carolina. governor pat mccrory warns the potential flooding could rival that produced by hurricane floyd in 1999. >> stay off the roads, stay in your house, watch the football games on tv, bunker up. because at this point in time, there are deadly conditions from raleigh east, at this point in time. >> many coastal communities are restricting access. others are imposing overnight curfews. meanwhile, south carolina's governor is warning residents of a potential scam, apparently, hackers are sending out e-mails
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to residents, purporting to offer information on power outages, but when you click on the link, the hackers gain access to your computer. the governor say ing if you get an e-mail of this nature from someone you don't recognize, don't click the link, delete it. shannon? >> just despicable. all right, jonathan, thank you very much. stay safe. hurricane matthew's northward march spared most of florida east east coast, but may not be done yet. are the conditions right for the hurricane to head out to sea and reorganize? let's find out what's next for matthew. meteorologist rick is live in new york with the forecast. >> so it is not going to reorganize. it's going to move offshore, but we're not done with it by any means. and florida didn't see the center come onshore, but the beaches were very damaged and what we're seeing now across the carolinas is catastrophic for some. and we have a really long night ahead of us.
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winds still strong, gusting to 71 in myrtle beach about a half an hour ago. still very strong now, offshore winds, but the storm is moving off towards the northeast. and this rain band you see primarily now in towards north carolina, heading up towards virginia is extreme. we have tornado conditions, tornado warnings, especially across eastern areas of north carolina. but parts of interstate 95 are closed down because of the flooding. we have reports of numerous bridges and roads that have been cut off and people cannot get through at all. and you see the rain fall very heavy across a very wide swath. this red here, that is flash flooding that is going on right now. probably half of the state of north carolina has flash flooding that is occurring right now. and we're going to see this spread, i think, likely, in towards parts of virginia. the reason for that is you can see, the rain was heavy. we saw about a foot of rain in savannah. but you go here already across south carolina, north carolina, we're getting more moisture wrung out of this storm and that's what's going to happen over the next couple of hours. overnight tonight, still across
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areas of north carolina and virginia, by noon tomorrow, it's gone, moves offshore, we're not going to be looking at any kind of reorganization from this. that's the good news. the bad news is before that happens, take a look at this, shannon. right here, we have some spots that are going to see probably a foot to a foot and a half of additional rain across north carolina. some of these spots just two weeks ago saw record-breaking flooding. and now we're going to see a foot and a half of rain on top of that. we have all of the rivers already full. we've already seen a lot of damage in infrastructure. this coming on top of a potentially catastrophic situation here across interior sections of north carolina. >> all right, rick. we know you are tracking it around the clock. thank you so much for the update. >> you bet. when we come back, the damage the latest trump controversy may do to other republicans on the ballot. but as we head to break, a little bit of debate history from washington university. washington university has hosted more debates than any other institution in u.s. history. rary takes us through here at
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those big nights right here on campus. the university has hosted three presidential debates, one in 1992. in 2000, with george w. bush and al gore. and in 2004, with president george w. bush and then senator john kerry. but it was the 2008 vice presidential debate when 70 million people, a record crowd, tuned in to see alaska governor, sarah palin, square off against then senator, joe biden. it began with one of the most memorable moments in debate history, which even was parodied on "saturday night live". >> nice to meet you. hey, can i call you joe? >> you can call me joe. you don't let anything keep you sidelined. that's why you drink ensure. with 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for the strength and energy to get back to doing... ...what you love. ensure. always be you. here you go.picking up for kyle. you wouldn't put up with part of a pizza. um. something wrong? so when it comes to pain relievers,
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welcome back to st. louis, site of tomorrow nigh's
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presidential debate. as donald trump tries to do damage control over his comments over women, gop leaders are wondering how the issue will affect other republicans in down-ballot races. peter doocy is in elk horne, wisconsin, where trump was supposed to appear today with house speaker paul ryan. >> reporter: republicans in tight races are on the run from trump, calculating that they'll stand a better chance in november if they aren't aligned with their own party's nominee. in illinois, senator mark kirk said, quote, djt is a malignant clown, unprepared and unfit to be president of the united states. in wisconsin, senator ron johnson says that, quote, donald trump's recent comments are completely indefensible and i refuse to even attempt to try to do so. and in new hampshire, senator kelly ayotte says that, quote, i will not be voting for donald trump or hillary clinton and instead will be writing in governor pence for president on election day. on capitol hill, republican strategists are reportedly now nervous about down-ballot races. >> things are looking worse right now for republicans to
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hold the senate. just a couple of days ago, it was looking very positive. and when you have a big curveball like this arrive, nobody can quite read the way it's going to go. >> reporter: other experts say this is a two-way street, and the down-ballot candidates can damage trump the same way he can damage them. >> this could be the thing that pushes people over the edge, especially if you have a lot of high-level republicans signaling enough is enough. >> reporter: but what do people think outside the beltway? this afternoon at the wisconsin event trump was uninvited from and pence backed out of, women in the crowd told us they do not think it's helpful for republican lawmakers to back away from donald trump. >> they're just trying to gain from it. i feel they're just, you know, we should be all together. we're all for the same thing, you know, stopping isis, closing our borders, getting rid of our debt. >> well, i can understand what they're doing, because it is -- it was pretty awful, but that was 11 years ago and i think they should go behind trump and stand behind him. >> it's bad for the party, it doesn't show us as a united republican party.
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and they should really be standing behind trump right now. >> reporter: here speaker of the house paul ryan's fall fest in wisconsin, ryan, the governor, scott walker, and senator ron johnson were all randomly interrupted by trump supporters at different times, screaming trump's name, saying, "we want trump." things did stay mostly civil, but that goes to show that parts of the party here are divided again. shannon? >> yeah, he says he's not going anywhere, so they may get their wish, it sounds like. peter doocy on the road, thank you. donald trump has said earlier that he was not planning to bring bill clinton's infidelities into the debate conversation. now that will very likely change. trump is already hinting at drawing comparisons between his words and the clinton's actions. >> reporter: as donald trump notes, certainly has been an interesting 24 hours. it has. and the next 48 could be even more interesting. tomorrow evening, trump and
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hillary clinton meet for their second debate in addressing his offensive 2005 comments, trump turns to former president bill clinton's extramarital affairs and claims he has abused women and hillary clinton has attacked those victims. in closing, trump threatens to raise the issue. >> we will discuss this more in the coming days. see you at the debate on sunday. >> reporter: tomorrow's debate features a town hall format. the candidates will field questions from moderators and undecided voters. a senior debate commission official says clinton will answer the first question. >> what we were expecting for this debate was to see whether trump could do better. he had lost the first debate. now what we're going to see is whether trump can do the biggest damage control effort he's ever had to make and perhaps any other politician has had to make. >> in the less than two weeks since their first debate, american voters have also seen an overnight trump twitter session attacking the former miss universe, a trump cameo in a 2000 "playboy" video, and details of his 1995 tax returns.
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audio of clinton's discussions with donors discussing bernie sanders' popularity. she used the example of a barista or a young adult living in her parent's basement. bill clinton calling obamacare the craziest thing in the world. and new wikileaks e-mails showing favorable comments about trade and banks. while trump's 2005 comments are unavoidable, the candidates have other issues to discuss. >> the moderator can't get away from it. they'll have to address this one head-on, but there's a lot going on. things going on in europe, syria continues to evolve. and i think they'll want to dig in as fast as they can on the substantiative issues. >> reporter: estimates show more than 80 million watched the first debate, though in 2012, ratings for each debate were less than the previous performance. so perhaps a trend now that donald trump might be able to reverse tomorrow. shannon, back to you. >> we will see. rich edson live for us in washington. thank you, rich. there were several attacks today aimed at american service members overseas. in eastern afghanistan, two were injured, one critically when
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their vehicle hit a roadside bomb. outside of jalalabad, two soldiers were injured in a suicide bomb attack. and in kuwait, five soldiers attacked injury in another suicide bombing. russia has vetoed a u.n. security resolution demanding an end to its air strikes on the besieged syrian city of aleppo. the u.s. relief agency says continued fighting over aleppo is having dire humanitarian impacts on both sides of the divided syrian city. russian and syrian bombing campaigns continue against rebel-reld areas. an estimated 275,000 people are living in opposition-controlled parts of the city and no international aid is getting through. a university of california davis researcher whose goal was to feed the world and save the planet will never get that chance. sharon gray was killed this week in ethiopia, where she was planning to start a new research project. fox news reporter paul tillsley reports from johannesburg on a
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country tearing itself apart. >> we need justice, we need freedom chant anti-government protesters across ethiopia. and this week, american agricultural expert shannon gray was killed when protesters threw stones at her car. at least 52 died a week ago when police opened fire at a protest, leading to a deadly stampede. the fight against the government has even spread overseas. at the olympics in rio, ethiopian silver medal winner raised his arms in a protest salute. back home, until recently, ethiopia had been regarded as an island of stability, surrounded by unstable somalia, sudan, and south sudan. the u.s. sees ethiopia as a key ally in the region and annually hands out just under $1 billion in aid. and the capital is the center of african power, with president obama addressing the leaders at the headquarters of the african union. in the streets nearby, the majority of ethnic groups
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believe their freedom and rights are being squeezed by the minority tigre, who represent only 6% of the population, yet are the sole party in power. it's a particularly explosive situation, says an analyst. >> the protests can only grow, because the problem is a very pervasive and is going to continue, because it has not been addressed fundamentally. >> one human rights agency says more than 700 protesters have been killed in the last year alone. and while in california today, relatives and friends of sharon gray mourned the death of this young woman, who had gone there to help the country, ethiopia's ambassador here reached for a comment told us that he is, quote, a bit busy to talk to us. shannon? >> paul, thank you very much. german police are hunting for a man they believe has ties to islamic extremist groups, after the discovery of explosives in his apartment. three people who were described as having contact with the suspect are being detained.
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police believe the man was planning a bombing attack, but they are not saying where or when. up next, the panel with plenty to discuss about the scandal-fest of a presidential race, but first, earlier today, i got to check out some of the more unique visitors on campus. along with all the other dignitaries and special guests here at washington university for the debate, we've got the clydesdales, check it out, part of st. louis history and part of political interactions over the years. tell us a little bit about that. >> that's right, we've got all eight clydesdales here and the clydesdales were used in 1933 to celebrate the repeal of prohibition. they delivered one of the first cases of budweiser to the white house. >> and there might be some of that available here, if you visit this tent. and by the way, there's another special guest, too. you're going to meet clyde, who is the dalmatian, the mascot of this whole investigation, and he is adorable. he's ready. are you ready? all right. more "special report" right after this . remember here at ally,
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i moved on her and i failed. i'll admit. >> whoa. >> i did try to [ bleep ] her. she was married. i got to use some tic tacs just in case i start kissing her. i'm automatically attracted to beautiful -- i just start kissing them, like a magnet. i don't even wait. and when you're a star, they let you do it. you can do anything. >> anything you want. >> grab 'em by the [ bleep ]. >> i've never said i'm a perfect person or pretended to be someone i'm not. i've done and said things i regret. and the words released today on this more than a decade-old video are one of them. anyone who knows me knows these words don't reflect who i am. i said it, i was wrong, and i apologize. >> let's bring in our panel to talk about the developments in the last 24 hours. steve hayes, senior writer for "the weekly standard." gena loudoun, host of "american
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trends with dr. gena," and rick renell, former u.s. spokesman to the united nations. welcome all. it's been an eventful weekend. >> so far. >> does he recover from the comments? are they fatal to his candidacy? he's apologized. he said he's a different person. and that was a long time ago. >> nobody makes patricks in this race with any degree of conviction or confidence, but if you ask me today, yeah, i think these are fatal to his candidacy. i think the real challenge for the republican party is if donald trump -- at this point, he was losing anyway by four points, six points, depending on the poll you believe, national polls. he's slipping in battleground states. he now, i think, is likely to lose evangelical voters, movement conservatives, women who might have been willing to vote for him, just as the alternative to hillary clinton. the problem is, if republicans try to replace trump, then they risk losing all of the trump supporters, alienating that group. and i think it makes it a really difficult position for the
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republican party. >> he got millions, record votes in the primaries. dr. gena, i want to read what his wife had to say. melania says, the words my husband used are unacceptable and offensive to me. this does not represent the man i know. he has the heart and min leader. i hope people will accept his apology, as i have, and focus on the important issues facing our nation and the world. how important is it when the spouse comes out to do this kind of additional apology or, you know, trying to smooth out the rough edges of her spouse? >> i think, very important. and you know, my background's in psychology. and i think that her saying this sort of gives other women in the country permission to consider forgiveness on this as well. and i think that there's a mental line that people start to draw about both of these candidates. it really brings to light, shannon, i think something that's really important. and that is looking at things they've said in the past and have they truly changed? some think donald trump has gone through quite a spiritual transformation during this campaign time. hillary's the one who, voters are saying, hey, she didn't know
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what classified meant, and we were going to trust her to be president. she said she's learned now. so in the mind of voters. they're going to be thinking, who do i believe has really changed and really grown throughout this process? and that's the way they'll vote. >> how damaging is it to -- now we see this growing list of senators, of congressmen, of other prominent gop folks like former secretary of state condoleezza rice, all saying that they either are stepping back from him, some saying they're unendorsing, others saying it's time for him to get off the ticket, which logistically seems impossible. he says all caps, tweets, going nowhere, not a quitter, i'm staying in this for the people who believe in me. >> sunday night, the debate looks a long way away. trump has no effective campaign right now. they're holed up in trump tower, he's tweeting, issuing statements from his wife. but there's nobody out there that's really defending him. and meanwhile, we have republicans kind of across the political spectrum. some of these republicans weren't for him in the first place, but others, you know, are
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news. and i think are sort of the breaking of the dam a little bit. and obviously, the big names, paul ryan, reince priebus, mitch mcconnell, if those folks were to abandon him, he'd be in real trouble. i'm not sure that's going to happen before the debate tomorrow night, but it's a real problem for him. what's gone on here just in the last 24 to 36 hours. >> rick, how -- you have been supportive of him and have talked about the good things about him, believing in his candidacy. what does he need to do tomorrow night. does she bring it up? does he bring it up? does she control the situation on it? >> i think before he gets to a debate setting, before he can start talking about policy, he's got to figure out how to deal with this current problem. this is devastating to the campaign. it's an ugly statement that no one can defend. i don't buy that he's made a good apology yet. i think americans want an authentic person. we sometimes say, we want to vote for someone who we're going
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to have a beer with. i think what that really means is that we want somebody who's authentic. who relates to us. and i do know that the american people are extremely forgiving. if they sense that there is an authentic apology -- and i don't think trump has done that yet. what he needs to do before he gets to the debate have a journalist rough him up, ask him some really tough questions, and he needs to offer a humble, authentic apology. can he do that? i don't know. >> steve, there are also calls now, if he doesn't leave the ticket, for the head of the rnc, reince priebus, who has found himself many times this campaign season in between a rock and a hard place, then it's time for reince to go, too, if trump doesn't. and that's coming from a member of congress. >> yeah, there have been those calls all along. i think reince priebus has been consulting with past rnc chairman to see what options are available. and i think he is open to everything at this point. i think he's open to sort of staying the course and waiting to see how trump does in the debate and reassessing on monday
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morning. i think he's opening to pushing trump off the ticket or asking trump to leave the ticket. i think he's open to reallocating resources from the rnc victory fund that would have gone to the trump campaign to focus on the senate, to focus on down-ballot races. anything goes right now. and that's what's really amazing about, if you stop and think about this moment, this flood of people who have unendorsed trump and the resetting of this race right now. it's all up for grabs. 30 days out from this final debate, because i think people are so disgusted with what they heard on the tape. >> and dr. gena, we're hearing that there is a consideration within the trump campaign of whether he brings up bill clinton, former president, his indiscretions, the accusations against him, which are myriad. is it a mistake? is it a good idea, when he's got a female wife, you know, who was hurt, probably, by a lot of these things, standing across the stage from him at his opponent. >> she was hurt, but she also -- in the minds of many conservatives, anyway, to
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victimize those women spending $1 hurk $100,000 on private investigators, calling them bimbos. she's spent a lot of time defaming these women who are hurt by a long time by this. i think if mr. trump does that, it might be a smart tactic, because i think that it's sort of, in a way, the very idea that he's the only one who has ever done anything. and what mr. trump said is very different than what hillary and bill have actually done to women. and if mr. trump can make that argument in an effective, but still contrite, to your point, way, i think that will be good. and i do think, to steve's point, too, there's a danger in some of these establishment people forgetting the whole reason mr. trump is in this campaign is because he was an outsider. and people still -- >> he's not establishment. the idea that this is an establishment versus trump fight is so ridiculous at this point. mike lee is not establishment. many of the people who are calling for trump to step down are not establishment. that is like an old construct. >> but a lot of the voters, evening, at home would describe their decision to vote for them
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hy him based on that premise. they're sick of washington, the polling for congress is terrible. so for many of them, this is their protest vote. >> but i think before we get into the politics of this, whether trump can sling mud back, he's got to have an apology. americans want to -- >> you didn't like this one he did? >> no, with i didn't. >> he said "i'm sorry" more than once. >> there wasn't an authenticity to it. and there wasn't a journalist probing the videotape. >> i'm available if he wants to talk more than that. mr. trump, call me. next up, the podesta e-mails and the wikileaks. but first, behind the scenes, all the work it takes to bring this debate coverage to you at home. so what does it take to cover a presidential debate? well, our team that was in farmville, virginia, for the vice presidential debate, broke down overnight, traveled here, and took two days to build this set. we're on mud field and this is just one of four sets for fox during the coverage of this debate. there are 250 employees here all
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bernie sanders was actually right and now the transcripts are showing that he was right. now, we see why she didn't want to show everybody what those transcripts said. i actually find that amusing. you know, if the democrats knew what were in those transcripts, they wouldn't have elected her. and she knew it. he knew it. and now everybody else knows it. >> we are back with our panel, hot off of the leaks of e-mails and of excerpts of speeches that
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t hillary clinton gave. we have not verified themselves. so let's talk about them. a lot of folks say that hillary clinton was giving a different public persona about things than she was privately with some of these positions that the things she was telling bernie sanders and his supporters to get them onboard was different in what we saw to the speeches to the wall street gang and goldman sachs and those. will it matter? will it affect her polling? >> good question. >> you're a polling expert. >> in this environment, look, it's hard. normally these types of revelations would be very consequential and could damage her campaign, unquestionably. but given the context in which all of this happening, given what's going on with donald trump, maybe not. and maybe not as much as it would have otherwise. but there's stuff in there that could be potentially very damaging. and as there may be other things as people sift through there, that are found, that could hurt her. but, again, put up in relative terms, put against what donald
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trump is enduring in terms of the media coverage and the scrutiny and all of that, hard to see how this is really going to hurt her in any significant way. whatever trump's going through is going to hurt him far worse. >> steve, i want to read a little bit -- this is an excerpt from supposedly a speech she gave back in 2013. she said, if everybody's watching, all of the back room discussions and the deals, you know, then people get a little nervous to say the least, so you need both a public and a private position. >> yeah, if it's true, if that's in fact what she said, and it's not hard to believe that she would say that, it's a confirmation of everything we've known about hillary clinton. this is who she is, what she does, why her her honest and trustworthy numbers for the 30s. i think it is unlikely to hurt her because of the malestrom and the meltdown of the republican party. i think it is is significant that hillary clinton has said this. basically announceded she had
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different positions in public and private and supported single payer health care and talk about open trade. she ran against and said she would not do and now comes out that she has continue it. and if these speeches are authentic temperature is a big development in the middle of all of the rest of. it >> steve references, polling show they don't find her trustworthy and they rank many people ahead of her and about bernie sanders and other ares that she had had to contend with on the path now. and it is almost as if the american public has a perception of her that she is honest and trustworthy. maybe for now she is our best option. >> and here's why.
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we have a constant spatter aring of this information about hillary clinton. and if you take the voters in general right now, we have to not view the election view any other election. it is mental to people and a lot of people are not admitting who they are voting to, to pollsters and people will get in that voting booth and say am i reallyoc with somebody who says one thing to it the voter and another thing to goldman sac hs. and they may not vote for hillary in that particular situation. and a lot of these decisions are last-minute. >> rick, there was another speech she gave in 2006. we were attacked by income canning efforts to penetrate everything we and that was true in the u.s. government.
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we knew it was going on when i was going to china and russia and they were going after the personal e-mails. this is different than what we talked about the e-mail and how careless she was in handling sensitive information and especially when stheefs out of the country in hostile places. >> they tell you that you are under assault and going to the un, there are country s trying to get your, mail. when you you travel outside of the united states, she knows this. and every administration knows this is which is why it is shocking when you think about p the fact that she still had a server in her basement and telling jack sullivan to cut off the top of the e-mail that said it was classified because she wanted it to be sent. she didn't change the content
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but the top of the marking. and so it is shocking when you see her private pronouncementes that she knows she's under assault and that are trying to get her in china and in russia. she's so reckless. and one of the problems we have. media types are all in that camp and we snooze at the fact that there is a duplic tus politician. and the american people to jenna's point are not okay with that. >> the question to a certain extent will bombshells be covered as bombshells. and there were times when what she said under oath was untrue and she lieded in her testimony. and the new york times and others didn't lie.
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and she shrugged her shoulder and showed members of congress and my suspension is that subsequent leaks and documents no matter how big are are likely to be covered that way. >> and that is a fair accusation or not? >> i certainly think that republicans feel that way and trump supporters feel that way to a certain degree. this campaign is remarkedly, these are issue baseded and this campaign is issue free. it is a debate about character and that's where we are again now and parts of that on hillary clinton's character are overshadowed about trump's character and the audio tape revealed. and that's the nature of the
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>> what happens next in the topsy-turvy race for the white housement we'll have full predebate and post debate analysis and town hallers ask that one in st. louse. that could get intchlth watch chris wallace interview of the john podefta from the clinton campaign and also the trump campaign will be on the show. kelli ann conway will be here.
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fox report is next and i will see you again tonight. for more special debate coverage here in st. louse, missouri. countdown for the second presidential debate in st. louis as the trump campaign faces a major crisis even call cans for the republican nominee to step aside. this the fox report. donald trump campaign is in serious damage control mode and releasing an apology after a video surfaced of the republican presidential nominee making lewd comments about women. and here is some of that video. >> i am automatically attracted to beautiful p. it is maginant and when


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