tv Americas Newsroom With Bill Hemmer and Martha Mac Callum FOX News October 13, 2016 6:00am-8:01am PDT
>> tomorrow's show we're going to have governor mike pence, geraldo rivera and a celebrity. >> guy fieri is going to be joining us from diners, drive-ins and dives. >> bill: donald trump firing back at the "new york times" after multiple women' come forward with allegations of groping. how you doing? martha: good morning, everybody. i'm martha maccallum. this is the latest story to explode. two women accusing donald trump of kissing and groping them without their consent. one of the accusers is 74-year-old jessica lee.
she claims she was sitting next to donald trump on an airplane and then this happened. >> his hands were all over me. he started encroaching on my space. he was like an octopus. it's like had six arms. when he started putting his hand on my skirt, that was it. bill: the trump campaign's response. this article is completely false, coordinated character assassination against mr. trump on a topic like this is dangerous. martha: it's not the only allegation this morning that has come out against mr. trump. >> everything we finding out now is alleged to have happened more than a decade ago. there is a "people" magazine
reporter who says trump was inappropriate with her in florida. a photographer's assistant says trump groped her in 2003. and reception evident who says trump kissed her at trump power. >> i don't think i said a word during the late 60s, 70s, and 80s. the culture had instilled in us somehow it was our fault the attention we received from men, that we were responsible for their behavior. you didn't complain to the authorities. you didn't complain to your boss. if something happened to you, you just bucked up and went on. reporter: none of the women ever went to the police at the time so there is no years old official record of it. they are basically are saying they thought trump saying he
never went further than locker room talk with somebody, they think they can disprove that. martha: donald trump's lawyer is sending a response to the "new york times." what did he say? reporter: it's a demand for retraction. they do not believe the "new york times" vetted these accusers' stories. he wrote it's apparent from the timing of the art call it's nothing more than a politically motivated evident to defeat trump's candidacy. it trivializes sexual assault and sets a new low for the meade to to determine this election. we did get the first tweet from trump. he wrote, quote. the phoney tory in the failing
ny times is a total fabrication written by the same people as last discredited story on women. watch. martha: peter, thanks. bill: inside the clinton camp they are dealing with more damaging emails released by wikileaks. a conversation that happened weeks before the server was wiped clean, clinton aide huma abedin questioned whether clinton could keep avoiding reporters. the email reads can we survive not answering questions from press. the immigration message broke
through because we did not take questions. her community bank message got lost because she answered questions about the foundation and emails. this is a strategy session on whether they can avoid facing reporters. how long did she go without answering a fair number of questions from reporters. >> 2/3 of a year. she went a real long time in the bunker. and it was bad advice she got. becauser time a trump scandal or outrage sort of bled off the stage, the focus always turned back to hillary clinton and her emails and the server and the scandals. instead of ever answering it in a decent way, she hid from the press and it stayed out there. and that is sort of the story of
clintonism by evading and ducking the press, they make things even worse. bill: by my count, she has not had an official press conference yet. there has been no declarative. we'll be here at this time on this date in this setting and we'll have a formal press conference. >> until she answers the questions from you, i will not be satisfied. but she logged enough time with enough gaggles and enough reporters. now trump is the one who doesn't do press conferences. she is answering questions from reporters now. >> now we have the basket of deplorables which apparently has gotten bigger. this is sandy newman, a contact of john podesta. quote there need to be a
catholic spring in which catholics themselves demand the end of a middle ages dictatorship and the beginning of a little democracy. they spared no one. >> true, cardinal john newman the first american saint probably wouldn't be too impressed with someone who took his name leading an uprising against the catholic church. liberal democrats don't like religion too much. conservatives tend to be much more devout than liberals do. that's something we have known. however, democrats do rely on a lot of catholic voters in states like pennsylvania and ohio. maybe somebody like pat toomey
can use this mess across to try to rally catholic voters on his behalf. bill: needy latinos in one easy call? what was that about? >> he wasn't talking about needy latinos as in poor latinos. he's saying latinos who are needive attention, belly scratching when you go pay attention to people even if you don't mean it. i don't think it has anything to do with them being latino, but them just being annoying. martha: for the first time ever a fox news anchor will be the moderator of the third presidential debate, the final one. chris call had chris wall wallae
moderator. it will be debt and entitlements. immigration, economy, supreme court, foreign hot topics and the fitness to be president question. so that's going to be fascinating. next wednesday, october 19. the final debate, fair and balanced. and right here on fox news. >> i think voters and viewers alike -- >> i think everybody will get a lot out of that. martha: a big story we need to bring to you. the u.s. retaliated against yemen after yet another attack on a navy ship. an escalation in this area. tomahawk cruise missiles in the red sea. those missiles launched by a
u.s. destroyer and hitting an area held by the houthi rebels. reporter: iran is the key players here. they have been harassing ships in the red sea and the straits of more muts for months now d the straits of hormuz for months now. the navy launched multiple crews crews -- cruise missiles. they took out the positions that would make it for difficult to launch attacks on u.s. ships. it forced iranian ships carrying
weapons to the houthis to turn around. take a look at the map how strategically important yemen is. u.s. weapons systems, u.s. states. iran which is backing the houthi rebels, control of the strait that feeds up to the red sea. and huge implications for anti-terror implications for the area of the red sea. bill: two times. now a response. a surreal day for campaign 2016. trump declaring war on the mainstream media. wikileaks publishing more embarrassing emails. martha: the aftermath of matthew still with us.
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the suv that dares to go beyond utility. this is the pursuit of perfection. bill: the f.b.i. decision not to prosecute hillary clinton for mishandling classified information causes a split inside the agency. career investigators believe mrs. clinton should have faced charges. >> looking back into the mishandling and removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support charges on this case. no charges are appropriate in this case. bill: peter schweitzer. welcome back. can you match the reporting from
our folks here at fox about those dismays inside the f.b.i.? >> i was up in washington, d.c. about 10 days ago doing business and talked to people that had been in law enforcement at the federal level and prosecutors who said the same thing. they did not know a current f.b.i. agent who was familiar with the case who did not think hillary clinton should face legal jeopardy because of her actions in the email case. >> here is a quote. safe to say a vast majority thought she should be prosecuted and her security clearance should have been yanked. they hear these words from comey and say basically the case is closed. >> that's the case comey makes. what a lot of agents are frustrated about is they believe in the old f.b.i. they were going to take on whoever they needed to take on. if they were powerful
individuals or ordinary americans who violated the law. this goes to the heart of the credibility of the f.b.i. if they are going to have different legal standards for people in positions of authority and power like hillary clinton then ordinary americans being prosecuted by the way, a guy out in california who was taking pictures inside the submarine to show family members is facing prosecution under the same statute as hillary clinton sharing classified information. bill: they may have been disgruntled, but they lost. >> that's right. what's interesting about the emails that have been coming out, bill, we now know first of all that the clinton team, the hacked emails. the clinton team completely under estimated the importance of this story. then you have these emails when they are talking about what are we going to release, what are we
not going to release which was in complete defines of the freedom of information act and the action on capitol hill asking for hillary clinton's team to turn over all their emails. bill: on that timeline all in the month of march 2015. at the ends of the month is when you had the serve sister wiped clean. the beginning of the now find this email. an aid rather than going around how to release the 55,000, let's just be for what's happening and use this as an excuse. we can say even if state has equities, not providing them meaning the emails would put her in legal jeopardy or say happy for them to have it and happy the public to read them as soon as state is comfortable. let's somehow take advantage of this. they were trying to figure out how they could paint this in the best light possible. that was an email that was
written on the 4th of march of that month 2015. within four weeks the server was wiped clean and all the emails were gone. >> the interesting question in this is these emails were obtained through a hack obviously. but the information is there, it has not been challenged. the question is does this reopen a legal case against hillary clinton. i'm not an attorney. but i would say they need to look at this. it clearly goes to this question of you get just a little bit later this congressional subpoena requesting these record, and they are using bleachbit to wipe this clean. this shows the intentional that the f.b.i. director claimed he didn't have at the time. bill: peter, thank you. thanks again out of tallahassee today. martha: intent is the question. no intention.
but if these emails demonstrate there was intent, and as you rightly point out the timing on those emails versus one that was scrubbed is stunning. all right. another huge story as another police shooting has happened. leaving two police officers in boston in critical condition at this hour. now details on the suspect who armed with body armor and an assault rifle, seems like he was ready for war. a live report on the condition of these two officers and what happened in boston coming up next. >> multiple officers heading that way. >> multiple, multiple shots.
they started keeping records in 851. that's a fact fact i wouldn't have guessed. only 7 in 170 years? martha: they are afraid of the triangle. two boston police officers are in critical condition after a late night shootout. they were called to a domestic disturbance. take a listen to the audio from the police scanner during all of this. >> we have shots fired. i need he for to make their way. >> we have an officer down. multiple officers heading their
way. martha: laura engel in new york with the latest. reporter: boston's mayor said the officers are in critical condition. both officers are out of surgery after being shot while responding to that domestic dispute call in the east boston neighborhood. their names aren't being released. one is a 8-year veteran and the other a 12-year veteran of the boston p.d. the police chief said the officers took the suspect down and dragged the officers out of harm's way. >> they showed extreme courage and bravery in a situation that we all too often don't know what to expect in a domestic call.
reporter: one of the officers fashioned a tourniquet while the other put a finger on the wound. city leaders asking for prayers this morning. martha: what more do we know about this gunman. >> they identified him as kirk figueroa. gladstone street where the shooting went down is a typically quiet one-way street and said neighbors were scared. police said to shelter in place as their street turned into a terrifying patch of real estate. the local district southern says scene investigation is now under way. given the gravity of this event when i learned about it i respond bimyself to the scene in east boston. i signed the chief of my
homicide unit to do a thorough investigation into these events. reporter: the f.b.i. reports 77 police officers are injured by gunfire every single year. >> the accused bomber makes an appearance today but he won't be inside the courtroom. martha: donald trump making demand for a retraction from the "new york times" and threats for a lawsuit. >> that tape illuminated to me his lack of respect for women, you know. i don't know that it's appropriate to say it's just locker room talk especially when he walked in on women changing.
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martha: donald trump firing back at multiple claims that he groped and kissed two women, once at mar at march at march -. >> the stewardess asked me if i wanted to move up to first class. somehow or other the armrest in the seat disappeared. his hands were all over me. >> donald trump responded this morning on twitter a couple of times. this is one of them.
the phoney story in the failing "new york times" is a fabrication written by the same people as last discredited story on woman. rich lowry, doug schoen. what do you think? >> this looks like a classic political hit job. this always coordinate attack on him. we know from the wikileaks disclosures there is cord nation between the clinton campaign and the "new york times." they ought to be careful proceeding. donald trump says this is complete fiction. but they need to be careful about going forward with these stories on donald trump. bill clinton has his own history with women which mrs. clinton has len allegedly involved in
the efforts to destroy the women who accused her husband and she is the one on the ballot. but more importantly, this has the potential to backfire and turn donald trump into a sympathetic figure. if voters look at this and perceive sit as a massive pile-on, it could turn him into a sympathetic victim. martha: what if they believe these accounts, then it goes the other way. >> they could. if that's the case, i don't think it changes much. if you are a woman and you already think donald trump is a sexist your mind won't be changed either way. martha: i feel like we are back in 1992. before the election there was a storm of women with salacious awful stories. and in a bizarre turn much events it may be donald trump
needs to turn to the clinton playbook. you have the gennifer flowers and paula jones. back then to our virgin ears seemed even more horrific. but then they sat down on a couch together and didn't interview. and hillary said i'm not some tammy wynette standing by my man, i trust my husband. >> that interview was around the time of the new hampshire primary, not at the ends of the campaign. my recollection of the end of the campaign was mostly on the failed bush economy and the need for change. donald trump has bigger problems than the women and the video. he has a quarter to a third of republican elected officials and leaders having defected permanently, paul ryan and he
are in a war. republicans have been saying, donald fight the democrats and hillary, not the republicans. the so-called unshackled donald trump is fighting multiple battles, multiple wars, paint's not quite clear his central focus is secretary clinton. her poll numbers are up from where they were before the video, martha. the debate might have helped them marginally. you know what? martha: he has too many slings and arrows coming his way. this is "people" magazine. this woman was a beat reporter for "people" magazine. she says she walked into a room alone and i turned around and within seconds he was pushing me against the wall after his wife
had gone upstairs. is response is why didn't the writer mention the quote incident in her story? because it did not happen, says donald trump. >> nobody knows the facts. nobody was in these rooms. but more importantly, every time donald trump has to fend off some of these charges web's not talking about the issues the american people care about. maybe that's why it's having some traction. it has affected his polls. but it's not having the devastating impact the clinton campaign hoped it would. the american people understand this country has serious problems. donald trump should be talking about those. he should be talking about and saying look, if you need to reach back 12 or 30 years to find an attack with which to smear me. mrs. clinton you cannot run on your record.
this country thanks serious issues and i'm here to offer concrete solutions to those problems. >> i do think there is kinds of an enough already. i think on both sides people would find it refreshing if one of these candidates is smart enough to pull this back around. donald trump needs it more than she does at the moment. not even tweet. not even be responding to this stuff? >> this is why you have surrogates. i don't believe a candidate for president should be punching down. this is punching down. this is why he has surrogates to handle this situation. >> this is why this is as problem. he's not talking about the issues. more punching down, less talk to the issues. bill: the man accused of planting bombs in new york city
makes his first court appearance today. 1 people injured. brian is outside the courthouse. good morning to you. reporter: this morning ahmad kahn rahami faces multiple nearly a dozen federal charges as well as state charges. he will be arraigned for five counts attempted murder of a police officer and unlawful weapons possession charges. rahami will make his court appearance today via video in newark where he's still recovering from multiple gunshot wound. after authorities identified rahami as the main suspect for
placing bombs in manhattan. a bar owner spotted him sleeping in the entryway. an officer was shot in the chest and saved by his vest. for the 28-year-old afghan-born u.s. citizen, this is just the beginning. he will be facing terrorism charges, including the use of a weapon of mass destruction and a bombing of a public place. this radicalization. he admired terrorists like usama bin laden, but that's not in the state charges. that will be playing out more in the federal case. at the end of the day even if he gets convicted of all federal
and state charges he faces prison. >> the race for president is dominating the headlines. there is also a major battle with the control of congress hanging in the balance. bill: donald trump making house speaker paul ryan a target again. congressman peter king addresses this as he warns the republicans could be on the verge of a civil war. >> there is a whole deal going on. you know. there is a whole deal going on. we are going to figure it out. i always figure things out. but there is a whole sinister deal. ush it real good... ♪ (announcer vo) or you can take a joyride. bye bye, errands, we sing out loud here. siriusxm. road happy.
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no, he doesn't do it. there is a whole deal going on. we are going to figure it out. i always figure things out. there is a whole sinister deal going on. bill: trump ripping into paul ryan. at one point he called it sinister. peter king, member of the house homeland security committee, he's a republican. good morning to you. what do you think is going on here? how injurious could it be too your party. >> i'm supporting donald trump and i'm a friend of paul ryan. i hope they can coordinate their efforts. donald trump should not be fighting with paul ryan and he shouldn't have so many republicans panicking the way they did over the weekend walking away from donald trump before he had a chance to explain himself and have the debate.
there was so much hysteria in the first few days. going out of their way that first 24-48 hours to distance themselves before they even knew all the facts created almost like a tidal wave of hysteria over the weekend. i understand why donald trump was angry. he stopped the bleeding, then he sees republicans walking away from him. on the other hand it's counter productive. all donald trump could be saying is i don't expect everyone to be lined up with me. i come into this race as an independent you mind. i would like their support. if i get it fine. i'm representing the people. don't be taking shots off to the side. just focus on straight ahead. accentuate the positive. bill: some endorse, then
unendorsed, then endorsed again. >> to me it makes no sense. if you have real objections and you are morally oppose and you have something to stand on and you want to withdraw an endorsement fine. but i don't know what came out over the weekend friday that is so different from what we have been hearing. they were willing to stand with donald trump when his poll numbers were going up and running even with hillary clinton. to abandon him when the first shot is fired, i don't think it wins them any voters. from a political point of view, unless they have moral convictions on this, that's one thing. but if they are doing it for political cover, it's not going to work. >> you said trump may be too new york for some republicans. i don't know what that means. but answer that or clarify that. what do you think the effect of
the past 12 hours is, some of your fellow republicans with these accusations? >> basically his style is more rough and tumble, if someone punches him he automatically punches back. it's that street corner-type style which other parts of the country don't adapt to right away. but as far as the last 12 hours, the "new york times" is turning into the "national enquirer." the "new york times" to be going out of their way to find these stories. it's up to donald trump. it will be his word against theirs. to me a paper like the "new york times" to be putting all this effort into these stories and virtually ignoring what's being said about hillary clinton and wikileaks may also be rumors. who knows. it's a lot more important to be focusing on the allegations against hillary clinton and
donald trump. i'm not diminishing the others. i think in some ways it plays into donald trump's hands that the establishment is out to get him and the media is out to get him and he's not getting a fair shake. and after a while the charges can be so the cumulative. bill: apparently there was conference call yesterday of 35 lawmakers in the house, backers of donald trump, and some of them asking donald trump to lay off paul ryan. i'm out of time. >> that's good advice. martha: the other side of this coin is the wikileaks emails which we just got more of just moments ago. donald trump demanding an apology from hillary clinton over comments about faith and religion and areas where her aides were said to be mocking catholics. we'll talk to pastor jerry
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martha: a plane crash earlier this week in connecticut appears to be intentional. one person was killed when a small plane went down in east hartford. a flight instructeddor and student pilot. the student lost his life. the instructor is recovering from severe burns. rob schmidt is with us. reporter: the associated press reporting this was a suicide. but that is not being confirmed by the ntsb other f.b.i. there has been speculation that perhaps this could have been
some sort of failed terror plot against pratt and whitney which is a defense contractor that makes jet engines for the u.s. military. the plane has been taken away and the body has been taken away that young man. the twin engine plane went down tuesday afternoon in east hartford, connecticut. missed the pratt and whitney headquarters by 200 yards and causing quite a scene. the 22-year-old student pilot was killed. he is here on a student visa from jordan. his instructor was take to the hospital in critical condition. the instructor said the plane was crashed intentionally.
but we are told nothing has been ruled out as far as a motive at this point. the associated press is reporting a source familiar with this investigation says there was a fight upon board plane and feras freitekh took the plane down trying to kill himself. the associated press saying this was not terrorism, it was a suicide. the hartford current, the local paper talked to some of the neighbors where feras freitekh was staying. they say he was a very kinds young man. always smiling. bought ice cream for the neighbor's kids in the neighborhood and they say he was not religious at all. the f.b.i. and the ntsb not confirming much to us at all. bill: there are two big political stories dominating the trail. only 26 days away from a new president.
. martha: a brand i batch of private e-mails rocking the clinton campaign, insiders mocking conservative catholics, evangelicals ask making a reference to, quote, needy latinos. welcome, everybody, lots to wade through here this morning -- bill: just another day, you know? martha: right? unbelievable. bill: for martha, i'm bill. good morning. clinton campaign chairman john podesta and a left-wing activist in one of these e-mails talking about the strategy to spark a revolution in the catholic church. the head of voices for progress writing, quote: there needs to be a catholic spring in which catholics themselves demand the end of the middle ages
dictatorship and the beginning of a little democracy and respect for gender equality in the catholic church, end quote. something in here for everyone, isn't there? ed henry live in d.c., good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, bill. bill: the controversy plays into trump's hands how? >> reporter: because he is trying to tour up conservatives, values voters, people with faith who may be struggling to actually turn out for donald trump since he's behind right now. these kinds of e-mails, remarkable. think about how much time democrats spend saying leave islam alone, ask yet here they are talking about a revolution within the catholic church. then in these various e-mail stages, jennifer palmieri before the campaign, they also actually comment on rupert murdoch raising his children as catholics, and john halperin at the liberal center for american progress saying, quote: it's an
amazing bastardization of the faith. they must be attracted to the systemic thought and severely backwards gender relations and must be totally unaware of christian democracy to which jen palmieri responds, i imagine they think it is the most socially acceptable religion, their rich friends wouldn't understand if they became evangelicals to which donald trump jumped all over this. watch. >> in uh-uh e-mails -- new e-mails also show members of the clinton team viciously attacking catholics ask evangelicals. they attacked catholics and evangelicals. viciously. and that won't be tolerated, but it won't be tolerated by the voters. >> reporter: so to answer your question, you can see it right there. there's concern, obviously, in the trump/pence camp that evangelicals may not turn out for donald trump, now they're saying, wait a second, they might fire up -- bill: how has palmieri responded on this, ed?
>> reporter: what you keep hearing is this is all about the russians hacking into e-mails, but they're not directly denying these e-mails are accurate. watch palmieri last night. >> i'm a cath rick. i don't recognize -- catholic. i don't recognize that e-mail that we saw, and this whole effort is led by the russians. the russians want -- orchestrated the attack. >> reporter: and then look at this other e-mail from joel benenson, at one point do we have any sense from her, meaning hillary clinton, what she believes or wants her core message to be? remarkable, because that's at the heart of hillary clinton's struggles from the very beginning of this campaign, to exactly explain who she is, what she wants to do as president, and yet, bill, after all that, she's still winning. bill: ed henry, thank you. three past the hour now. martha: donald trump demanding that "the new york times" retract a story in which two women accuse him of sexual assault.
one told "the new york times" that trump groped and kissed her on an airplane back in the '80s, another says that he kissed her when they were waiting for an elevator together when she worked at trump tower, that was a long time ago as well. plus, a former beauty queen says trump would walk into the dressing room at the miss usa pageants. >> our first introduction was at the dress rehearsal and half naked changing into our by kin thinks. he just came -- bikinis. he just came strolling right in. some girls were topless, other girls were naked. martha: okay. so james freeman is the assistant editor for "the wall street journal"'s editorial page, good morning to you. >> good to be here. martha: we'll start with trump and then go the wikileaks part of the story. tough stuff for him to get throughed today. >> yeah. i mean, we don't know if this is true, but it looks like in terms of his personal behavior, he's not quite as bad as bill clinton, but he's getting there in these stories.
so we have with a situation where we have two -- especially for conservative voters -- kind of two despicable people, and you need to decide what the policy is that you want over the next four years. martha: whoo do you think's the best -- what do you think's the best strategy to deal with this? >> well, although i would not have recommended his sunday night move of rehashing some of the clinton scandals, i think he actually pulled it off, and i think he made it plain that his behavior really shouldn't be disqualifying when you compare it to the ethical failings of the clintons. so i think now going forward, i've been hoping at some point he would talk more about economic growth and what he's going to do to liberate our economy, and i don't -- not betting on that happening now. i think probably it's going to be a lot of this tough stuff for the last few weeks. martha: word is steve bannon is at his side, and this is going to be a rough and tumble 27 days, although i do think
there's a lot of people that would really like to hear more about the future of the country and stuff that matters more, but he's going to have to deal with this first, because the women's vote is one ofbe the most problematic areas in his set of equations here. >> sure. martha: i also want to take a look at some of these wick chi leaks -- wikileaks, because they give us an interesting window on the clinton server and what was going back and forth among her advisers scrambling, you know, what are we going to do about these requests from trey gowdy to have this server and all of the e-mails turned over. here's the first one i want to pull up, it says: rather than going around and around on how to release the 55,000, let's just use this as an cues, because we can say even if state has equities -- i think he means the same e-mails that we have -- not providing them would put her in legal jeopardy, he says. let's go on to the next one, this is page 2 of the same one, excuse me.
or we say happy for them to have it, happy for the public to read them as soon as state is comfortable. but let's somehow take advantage of this, he says. then let's look at number two here. just for clarity, the house subpoena's just for libya, right? we were discussing releasing everything, no? and that's a question from robby mook. the third one says: worth remembering gowdy last week on the record said his committee doesn't have the authority to seek her server, which would be good news for them, i guess. all of this you have to keep in the framework, james, of what happened days later: this was all in march -- >> right. martha: days later, the server was bleach bitted. >> and service a -- it was also march 15th that hillary clinton had that press conference, and we now see these e-mails are more evidence of all of the untruths that she told. obviously, this was not about convenience, her server. obviously, this was not a question of just separating the wedding and yoga e-mails from
the work e-mails. you have here -- while the material is under subpoena -- the staff discussing how to protect her legal liability, how to protect her political future, and and i don't know how the fbi could have looked at this -- maybe they haven't read some of these -- and think that there was no case here because the intent is at least exrested in these e-mails -- expressed in these e-mails is anything but full and fair disclosure in response to a congressional subpoena. martha: yeah. and we know they didn't turn everything over in the end. so, you know, they obviously made decisions, it would appear based on this, james, to turn over some things and not other things. you hear robby mook saying just the libya stuff, right? so they're making decisions about what to turn over and what not which is not at all what the fbi requested. >> right. and remember, this material all belongs to the american people. martha: it sure does.
>> everything that's job-related -- of course, it never should have been on her private server in the first place, it should have been in the state department system, but this does not wrong to them. this is -- belong to them. martha: you're so right. >> this is not for them to decide what's politically useful and what's not and the sequence and the timing. when it's under subpoena, it could have been turned over years before, obviously, but that's when they really should have coughed it up. martha: that's a great point. this was all public information that was done by the secretary of state and, therefore, it's basically owned by the american people. so it's astonishing. james, thank you very much. good to have you here today. >> good to be here, thanks. martha: you bet. bill: hi, martha. we've been looking over here trying to figure this thing out right now in the balance of power because so far attention is given to these battleground states right now when you're 26 days away from the election. here's what we've got right now on the u.s. u.s. thissenate. this is going to be a battle.
it's 54 republicans to 46 democrat, two of the 46 are listed as independent, but they caucus with democrats. 51's your majority. if we go to the maps to our what if section here, this is the presidential when we've drilled down on this a lot and we'll continue to over the next three and a half weeks. on the senate this is the current configuration. so we put a little what if scenario in place here. if you're at 54-46, right up here in the northeast, in new hampshire, so far kelly ayotte seems to be doing pretty well in her re-election battle right now. she leads with the real clear averages there over her challenger, if republicans were able to hold that they would, obviously, maintain the seat and continue to look at the potential for majority. for democrats, this is what is looking better by the day. in wisconsin you've got a great rematch between russ feingold and ron johnson, and right now feingold has an edge in that.
same, too, for tammy duckworth over mark kirk in the state of illinois. she leads him seven, eight points based on the averages all put together. but way out here in the west, joe hecht is running for the seat in nevada. this is harry reid's seat that will be vacated. he holding onto an advantage which would bode well for republicans, flipping that seat in nevada. marco rubio down here in florida, he has held a consistent lead over the past month and a half, two months over his challenger, so it would look as if republicans at the moment may be able to hold that seat. north carolina, keep an eye on that. not sure how it's going right now based on early voting and turnout, but based on this scenario, republicans would maintain the edge in the senate. but, again, this'll be something we'll watch late into the night especially with nevada closing late, so something to watch. martha: day by day, it sure is. thanks. more on the fallout over the wikileaks e-mails and the
comments that clinton staffers made about faith, about religion, the catholic religion, evangelicals, mocking in its tone. we are going to speak with pastor jerry falwell jr. about that. bill: also, martha, only days away from the third and final presidential debate moderated by chris wallace. topics are out, we will tell you what they are and dive into them in a moment. martha: plus be, former house speaker john boehner says no matter who wins the white house, we all lose. dire words. we'll explain. >> more and morer shoes because they can't be dealt with legislatively are going to end up in the court system. so i believe that donald trump's view of who these judges should be is much closer to where i am than the judges that hillary clinton would appoint. >> so you plan to vote for trump? guess what guys, i switched to sprint.
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she was referring to rupert murdoch's family in that mention there. joining us now, jerry falwell, president of liberty university. sir, good morning to you. >> good to be with you. thank you. martha: what do you make of that statement? >> it's just further evidence of hillary clinton's elitism. she's an elitist. she's part of the establishment. you know, the fact that she would say that these people are catholics not because they have sincerely-held beliefs, but because be being an evangelical would be not acceptable by their rich friends is just further proof of her, of her view of the american people. and she, you know, there's a long pattern of her saying that, you know, i have to have one position publicly, i've seen this in the e-mails recently, and one position privately. implying that the american
people, the average american is too dumb to understand why she has to have one position for the elites and one for everybody else. and it's why she's, it's why all these accusations are being thrown against donald trump, because they want to steer the public away from all of these revelations in these e-mails, the, you know, the dream of her having open borders in the western hemisphere -- martha: gotcha. >> -- for 600 million people. the haiti pay-for-play after the earthquake there. the collision -- her collusion with the justice department that you were just talking about. and i've got a personal story too. in 1989 i was an attorney -- you called me a pastor earlier, but i was an attorney from 1987-2007, then became a college president here at liberty. but in 1989 we were trying to do only refinancing of the
university with stevens inc. of little rock, arkansas, and they brought with them the rose law firm. bill clinton was not famous, we had no idea who we were dealing with, but that was the underwriter's counsel. i've got the whole group, and they were the most condescending, rude group of people i've ever dealt with in my professional career. and it's just par for the course. martha: yeah. >> these people look down their noses at the american people. and that's why trump has done so well. he's -- it's always been a grassroots movement with trump. it doesn't matter what the republican establishment does, tries to do to donald trump, because they're not where he got his power -- martha: let me ask you a question -- >> he's all about the people. yes. martha: in terms of the evangelical vote, i think among some trump supporters now there's some concern that given these stories that are going out, that they are going to question whether or not morally it's the right thing to do.
and some of them may decide to stay home. what are your thoughts on that? >> unlike hillary clinton, i have faith in the intelligence and the savvy of the american people, of evangelicals. and they better than anybody else understand that christianity is about forgiveness, it's about repentance, and they've seen the change in donald trump. i've seen it personally. he's not the same person he was one, two, three, four, five years ago. he's, he's learned so much from the people. since he's become a politician, he's seen the suffering of the american people. that's positively influenced him. and i talked to him last night. he called me -- martha: what did he say? >> he was telling me all the evidence he has, e-mail evidence that these accusations from these ladies are untrue completely, and he was just --
[laughter] he was just beside himself, he couldn't believe that the press was running with a story like that. that's why he released a statement last night that -- categorically denying all the accusations. martha: yeah. >> but he's a different man than the man you saw on that videotape a few years ago, 11 years ago. and he truly wants what's best for the american people, i believe strongly. and i believe he's going to win. martha: jerry falwell, thank you very much for being with us today, sir. many thanks. >> thank you. bill: donald trump calling out the debate commission now. >> the head guy used to work for bill clinton! did you though that? i just found that out. the head guy worked for bill clinton. what a rigged deal this is. bill: so those latest comments only days before the final debate moderated by our own chris wallace, so what can we expect? howard kurtz will weigh in on that in a moment. plus, there's this --
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martha: so a train plowed into a tractor-trailer in california. it was all caught on camera. watch this. [bleep] martha: police say that the truck got stuck on the tracks. one witness started recording the video as traffic piled up. you can see an officer running away somewhere in this video. intersection was closed for hours while the workerser cleared the wreckage but thankfully -- bill: oh, my gosh. martha: -- nobody injured. bill: matter of feet, isn't it maccallum? wow. 26 past. let's go overseas right now, intense fighting in aleppo taking another dead little toll, more than 65 said to be killed over the last three days as government forces and insurgents clash in rebel-held area of syria's largest city. senior foreign affairs correspondent greg talcott live in london. here we go again. what's the latest, greg? >> reporter: there is more,
bill. a strong quote today summing it all up: we live in a daily holocaust. aleppo is burning. that coming from the mayor of that syrian city as wave after wave of russian-led airstrikes continue to pummel the eastern side of the city. that's the area held by the anti-assad government rebels, at least another 13 people were killed today, dozens injured. remember, there are about 275,000 people many that area -- in that area, and most importantly, 100,000 of them are children. this week's barrage came after a brief pause in fighting. according to the syrian government, to allow humanitarian aid to come into the city. none came and, in fact, no supplies to the separate people there since july as well as medical supplies and hospitals very scarce, bill. bill: what is being done to end it? >> reporter: there is more effort, but there's more strong talk as well.
a strong line once again coming from russian president vladimir putin. in comments today he blames the united states for what he calls the situation in syria. he claims the terrorists are using civilians as human shield. now, state department has rebuked this, and it's widely seen that the kremlin is actually backing ally bashar al assad's efforts to win back back territory maybe to take over that city. talks are planned for this weekend, saturday in switzerland, first time in weeks since the u.s. broke off discussions with russia. secretary of state kerry is meeting with russian foreign minister lavrov and others, but analysts don't give this much chance of success, bill. bill: been a concrete killing field. greg tal london with the latest. thank you, greg. martha: so the u.s. responding with force after yemeni rebels launched repeated missile attacks at the u.s. navy. the latest on the retaliation in yemen.
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martha: the united states has launched a retaliatory attack on the hue chi rebels on yemen's -- houthi rebels on yemen's east coast. this comes in response to recent missile attacks against u.s. navy ships in that region. these are america's first strikes against the houthis who are backed by iran in yemen's ongoing civil war. until now, the u.s. supplied fueling to the saudi-led rebels.
bill: a stark warning, in the meantime, of the rout i don't -e of the race in 26 days. john boehner saying america's in trouble. >> both of these candidates more president have painted themselves into a pretty far corner, and their ability to move beyond the people who elected them to work toward the middle to get things done, i think, is going to be severely tested. and so you're going to see more and more issues in our society end up in the court system and eventually end up in the supreme court. and that's where the real action's going to be. bill: steve hilton, former senior adviser to prime minister david cameron, ask richard fowler's a fox news contributor. gentlemen, good day to both of you. i was watching this interview last night, and it reminded me of how clear thinking ask talking speaker boehner is. steve, what he is saying is that the next president determines
the course of america. go. >> that's right. and that's why it's such a shame that the presidential election is not about the course of america. it's about superficial things that really have nothing to do with the big choice that the country faces. so i thought it was helpful that he put the argument for the seriousness of the election. i just wish that the candidates, frankly on both sides, would live up to that and actually start talking about some of the big choices we face. and i think if they did that particularly on the right, on the republican side, they would find that they basically agree. if you look at trump's agenda and you look at the agenda of the gop in congress, there are so much that they agree on, and i just don't understand why they can't really focus on that because of the stakes being so high, just as boehner said. bill: richard, what did you think about boehner's comments? he's basically arguing that executive order for hurricane and if you want to challenge that, you take it to court, and
if you take it to the courts over the next four to eight years, it will be the u.s. supreme court. and you will have maybe three or four judges that are determined by the next president. that was his large point. >> and, hemmer, i think speaker boehner, i never agree with him, but he's actually right on this point. our supreme court is not young, by any stretch of the imagination. so last week -- this week, excuse me, there was a case about apple v. samsung, and i asked myself the question, do any of these supreme court folks even know what an iphone and a samsung is? let's just be real. so i think what millennials are saying is exactly what john boehner is saying. our congress -- washington is broken. and because representatives on the house and the senate side don't want to work with the white house no matter who's elected, donald trump or hillary clinton, you have this executive order-run government. we need a government that actually works for the american people who work every day, and for that to become a reality, either hillary clinton's going to have to win with an overwhelming majority and have coat tails both in the senate or
the house, or donald trump will. bill: you sound like a republican. >> no, no, no! it's broken. broke is broke. bill: this' not what i hear. >> he sounds like not just any republican, he sounds like donald trump. [laughter] bill: more from boehner last night and a very specific question for each one of them. >> i believe that donald trump's view of who these judges should be is much closer to where i am than the judges that hillary clinton would appoint. >> so you plan to vote for trump? >> i am going to vote for him. >> and his seeming lack of knowledge about so much of what the president -- >> there's a lot of things -- >> -- doesn't both or you? >> there's a lot of things i disagree with donald on. but as i said, the most important thing about this election is who these judges are who are going to be appointed. bill: okay, steve. who has made the better case about the future for the court so far in this campaign? has it been donald trump or has it been hillary clinton? >> i don't think that either of them have made the case strongly
enough, because they're not talking about that kind of serious question enough. even though they, both of them say we want to go at the issues, ask we don't want to focus on all this other stuff, that's ended up being the things that they talk about most of the time. i think that the answer to your question, who's made the best case, honestly depends on which side you're on. if you're on the left, then you would say hillary has made a good case about the key issues, for example, campaign finance reform, that a changed court might be able to really make a difference on. but equally if you're on the right, then you care very much about other issues where appointees made by donald trump would really result in the outcomes you want. so i don't think you can say either of them have won the argument on this. bill: richard, i've heard trump say a lot how much is on the line with justices. and he's put out at least two different listsover justices -- judges, rather, that he would consider.
who's made the stronger case, trump or clinton, do you believe? >> i think you have to go and look a step further. i would say the democratic party has made a stronger case for judges, and i'll tell you why. right now there's a vacancy because of scalia's death, and we have merrick garland sitting in the senate, and republicans refuse to consider him. if they cared about the supreme court, they would try to fill the seat that is vacant. so when hillary clinton gets in -- which is likely from all the polls -- not only will she get this seat because it's already open, but she's going to get another one because we have a couple of justices near death's door or who want to retire. if roadway palins really care -- republicans really cared about the supreme court, they'd be having hearings right now. bill: richard, steve, thank you for coming this today. i think some of them would take exception of your comment -- [laughter] martha: they didn't realize they were at death's door. bill: that would be some breaking news in their lives, right? [laughter] thank you, gentlemen. >> thanks. martha: breaking news from the united nations.
the general assembly has elected a new secretary general. the prime minister of portugal, antonio gutierrez will take over as the world's top diplomat on the 1st of january. he replaces ban ki-moon who has served in the role since 2007. bill: all right. a big reveal on the dig beg debate, debate number three. the six topics that he will cover in this big debate, less than a week now, between donald trump and hillary clinton. we'll tell you what those are coming up. martha: and the times, they are a changing. legendary songwriter bob dylan getting a new honor and what it is may surprise you. bill: kind of like beethoven, isn't it? martha: kind of. [laughter] ♪ ♪
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bill: lovely. bob dylan adding nobel prize winner to his long list of his resumé. swedish academy awarding him, he said, the 2016 prize in literature for, quote, having created new poetic expressions within the great american song tradition, end quote. nobel, permanent secretary, even comparing his work to ancient greek poetry. that prize comes with a cash award of about $900,000 u.s. good for him. martha: i congratulated you, because you're a very big bob dylan fan -- bill: yes, i am. martha: -- and believe that he is the poet of our time, correct? bill: yes, i have said that. i think he's the beethoven of our time when you look at the body of work that he has composed and the influence he has had on so many countless musicians and singers and songwriters since. all of them can find some sort of tie back to what dylan did -- martha: i think when james rosen
comes on, you guys are going to debating john lennon and paul mccartney -- bill: we will find out in moments. martha: as you know, the third and final presidential debate takes place in six days. chris wallace will moderate, he is revealing his questions will cover six topics; debt and entitlements, immigration, the economy, the supreme court, foreign hot spots and fitness to be president. a lot to pack in. where will he go first, we wonder? we will see. howard kurtz is fox news media analyst and the host of "media buzz." good to see you this morning. >> good morning. martha: thoughts on that, first of all. >> well, the third debate was always going to be crucial because it's the one closest to the election. now it's on steroids because it will have to be dealt with, the latest mounting allegations of groping and kissing against donald trump and the wikileaks disclosures, drip, drip, drip, against hillary clinton. and be both candidates are going
to run into chris wallace who, by wide acclaim, is considered one of the west interviewers in the business. he has a blunt but civil style of asking questions, and he's very good at pinning down candidates. i think one of the reasons he was pick picked was because of his performance in the primary debates. martha: absolutely. we're going to all look forward to that, to be sure. here's a sound bite from donald trump talking about the commission on presidential debates. let's watch. >> that so-called commission on presidential debates? the head guy used to work for bill clinton! did you know that? i just found that out. the head guy worked for bill clinton. what a rigged deal this is. but here's the story, i have no respect for that group, by the way. i have none. it sounds good, presidential commission. give me a break. because we're dealing against a
very dishonest system. martha: so is that criticism fair? >> ay, ay, ay, who trump is referring to is, indeed, a -- but he is the co-chairman, and the other is a former chairman of the rnc. so it's a fair and balanced commission which, for the first time in the 20-year history of fox news -- picked moderators not only from cnn, nbc, abc and cbs, but one from fox. so i'm not quite sure trump is upset with the commission. martha: understood. let's talk about donna brazile because one of the questions that was asked of hillary clinton in a primary town hall sounded quite a bit like a question she had sent an e-mail about and made a reference to, well, sometimes i get a look at the questions ahead of time. but yesterday, howard, it came out in fact it was verbatim, the version that was in an e-mail of hers.
flush this out more us. >> well, you know, i was willing to give donna brazile the benefit of the doubt, she said she was flabber gatt -- flabbergasted, but now we learn the co-moderator of that town hall was roland martin, and he had sent an e-mail with, among the questions he was going to ask was one of the death penalty, and, again, the wording was almost precise to what donna brazile -- who was a cnn contributor at the time as well as vice chair of the dnc -- sent to the clinton campaign saying here's one i'm worried about. this does not look good for her, for cnn, and it adds to the perception out there that there is certain coziness between some members of the mainstream media -- martha: yeah. it's shocking. nobody should have access to those questions. the american people expect a very fair process and that everybody comes in there with the same amount of, you know, understanding of what could come at them, which is anything, basically, within the confines of the subjects that are
discussed. i want to get your thoughts on "the new york times," because donald trump says that he is suing them, that the stories they printed about these two women are very thin in terms of the substantiation. >> well, i don't think we'll ever see this lawsuit because that would open donald trump up to discovery and, look, these are two women who were telling their stories on the record, the times did talk to other people who they had confided in either months or years ago. at the same time, i think it's fair to question why is this coming out now, you know? why -- we have these women, we have the people magazine writer with the first-person account of being the recipient of an unwanted kiss and advance from donald trump. it does sort of raise questions about the timing and, of course, given the nature of this and coming after the access hollywood tape and the debate in which trump told anderson cooper he may have engaged this locker room talk but didn't actually do these things, this is going to, i think, dominate the media coverage for the next couple days.
the story -- i can't know whether "the new york times" story is accurate and whether these women are, in fact, telling the truth, but there are so many women now telling versions of this that the trump campaign is going to be forced to respond and, of course, is probably going to blame the clinton campaign, although there's no evidence that i know of at this point the clinton team had anything to do with these stories. martha: we talked to jerry falwell earlier, and he said he had a talk with donald trump last night on the phone, and trump told him he has emails that will prove women are not telling the truth. i've asked the campaign about that, and that may be the next shoe to drop. >> look forward to seeing that. martha: thank you very much. bill: hackers hitting the clinton campaign chairman, john podesta, yet again. this time, though, it's not his e-mails they were after. we will tell you what is next on that.
jon: in eight minutes, just when you thought the race for the white house could not get uglier, it because. new details from wikileaks and new allegations of sexual misbehavior. what it means for the house and senate as well. plus, another frequent flyer program makes changes customers may not like. are loyalty programs worth it anymore? ahead, "happening now." bill: jon, thank you. see you in seven minutes. eulogies for some of the more famous figures from the 20th century are featured in a new book called a torch kept lit. it's a collection of 50 eulogies written by the late william f. buckley jr., and chief washington correspondent james rosen's the editor of that book. how you doing, james? >> great to be with you. bill: nice to see you. it's beautiful. >> yeah. bill: how did you make the decisions to put what you did in this book? >> i knew this book needed to exist. a torch kept lit collects 50
eulogies that william f. buckley jr., the godfather of the modern american conservative unit, either delivered or published across his extraordinary career. these are sometimes emotionally devastating pieces of writing. they're dieded up between eulogies he did for presidents of the united states, a chapter for people like johnny carson, john lennon, elvis presley. i like to say it's the only place in the world where you will find milton friedman, the conservative economist, right next to jerry garcia of the grateful dead. bill: i think you're probably right about that. [laughter] why you? how come you were able to get access like this? >> buckley gave me my start in journalism, he gave me a grant to get started on my first book, arranged for my first article to be published. i interviewed him for fox news in the year 2000. i asked him at that time -- he was an avid yachtsman, as you know, he lived well. and this 2000 i asked him, mr. buckley, when was the last
time that you felt insecure about something emotionally, financially, in a bad neighborhood after dark, anything at all, and he thought earnestly, and he said there have been some rather anxious moments at sea. there was one particular squall that came through, it was horrific, and i wasn't entirely sure we weren't going to drown. and i said what year was that, sir? he just said, 1958. [laughter] that's a life well lived. bill: indeed, it is. if you want to capture the essence of buckley -- great stuff in here, by the way. i was watching a youtube clip several months ago when muhammad ali died, and they had the entire show -- >> the firing line. bill: -- online. and it was substantial, james. and be he gave, in my view, ali a significant platform -- >> absolutely. bill: to be -- to express his political views. >> buckley was friends with liberals, you know? and that's -- the theme in this book that runs through it is friendship. he was a genius at friendship. and i dare say those of our
viewers who give a torch kept lit as a gift for whatever occasion will find it deepens their friendships. and that's what's really missing from politicians today, what buckley used to call trans-ideological friendships. i think there's a hunger in america, particularly right now, for the age of bill buckley, for the class of bill buckley and for being able to be in politics without being coarse or unforgiving. bill: great stuff, man. and well put too. thank you. >> thank you, bill. bill: what was it? smooth as tennessee whiskey with affection. sir james rosen. is bob dylan the beethoven of our time? maccallum and i have a debate. >> no. [laughter] bill: in terms of body of work. >> he's the bob dylan of our time. >> thank you, james. a nobel for you. martha? martha: both campaigns taking hits, as you know, this morning. coming fast and furious in the final weeks in the race for the white house. live upcandidates from the campaign trail after this.
martha: hackers getting into his twitter account. that tweet was quickly deleted. wow, they're everywhere. bill: watch yo you write, folks. it's always there. martha: see you tomorrow, everybody. john: race for the white house takes another dive to unchartered territory you might say as candidates battle each other and bombshell allegations. >> unchartered territory to say the least. hillary clinton is off the trail fundraising out west instead as wikileaks releases more embarrassing emails from her campaign releasing comments about catholics, latinos and